The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Blazing 5, coaching

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

Colin's new Blazing 5 picks for the weekend Coaches in the NFL that don't have a strong influence for their teams   Guest: Cobi JonesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:41 IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1, very, very excited. Huge. USC, UCLA tomorrow. NFL game, Vikings, Cowboys, feels magnificent. World Cup. starting. Going to put on a few pounds over the next two, three weeks. Going to be drinking some cold ones, a lot of chips.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Not going to be at my best over the next three weeks. Same for you, J. Mack, joining us. This is the time to its holidays. You work out really hard about two weeks before holidays because you're going to be sitting watching TV. Yeah, you need the energy. You forgot about the Jets Patriots game. Biggest game in the AFC, massive playoff ramifications, potential future
Starting point is 00:03:27 ramifications for Zach Wilson as quarterback of the Jets. All right, hold on. We are going to talk about this in the next 10 minutes. But I had a terrible week. You know, I like betting football games. Even when my picks are trash. I really like it. I love my picks this week.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Here we go. Blazing five. Right now. Are you ready to go? Did our board freeze? All right. Can I make my picks? All right.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Here's our first pick. Go ahead and roll. Commanders at the Texans, I'm going to take the Texans plus three. It's actually an easy pick. Davis Mills, the quarterback at home, it's been really good. 19 touchdown, six picks, 100-passer rating. And Damien Pierce has been a find at running back. Leads the NFL in broken tackles and leads all rookies in rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:04:29 They could control the line of scrimmage. The commanders are off a highly emotional win on a short week, now travel, 81 plays for the commanders. Their offense this season is a BB gun. Taylor Heineke, I know y'all love him. On third and fourth down, completes 59% of his throws. I think the Texans win straight out. Take the three points. Texans win 28 to 24.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Raiders at Broncos. I love the Raiders plus three. Listen, Derek Carr and Devante Adams, the last two weeks, they are working. Okay, it's working. That's not the issue. Last two weeks, they're first in targets, receptions, and touchdown receptions. They're tied for second. The Broncos offense is terrible.
Starting point is 00:05:19 It's the worst in the league. It's the second worst on third down. Now Jerry Judy is out. This reminds me of those Arizona-Seattle games. where Seattle was the better team, and Vegas gave them points. The Raiders are losing close. The Broncos are awful. I'm going to take the Raiders plus three to win straight out 24 to 17 Vegas.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Cowboys at Vikings. Like it, I love it. Favorite pick of the week, I'll take the Cowboys. Their offense in back-to-back games, 400 plus total yards. Tony Pollard now averaging six yards. carry leads all running backs in the NFL. Yes, we know their defense is great, but this is a big game. Kirk Cousins against the Cowboys has been terrible, two and eight. They're a team Minnesota, each of their last seven wins have come by one possession. That is incredibly
Starting point is 00:06:18 random. If you keep winning one possession games, eventually you lose them, love the Cowboys to win straight out 30 to 27. Bengals at Steelers. The hook scares people, not me. I'm going to take the Bengals despite minus three and a half. They're coming off a buy. The number one NFL scoring offense since week six. Burrow, in fact, since week two has been number two in the league in completions,
Starting point is 00:06:51 passerating, and touchdown to interception. The Steelers, meanwhile, Kenny Pickett, let's be honest. This year, two touchdowns in eight. picks. Last week he looked better because he came off a buy. This week, the better quarterback gets the buy. Kenny Pickett doesn't have the prep time. Minka Fitzpatrick may not play. I think this could get ugly. It is a complete mismatch. Quarterbacks here, Bengals win and cover 28 to 23. Chiefs at Chargers. I don't trust the Chargers much, but I'm going to take the Chargers plus five. The Chiefs are falling apart. Justin Herbert and the Chargers have played very well
Starting point is 00:07:34 in this matchup and they're finally getting healthy. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams. Herbert against the Chiefs in his career, 13 touchdowns, only three picks. The Chief's defense, second worst on the back end in the league and they are falling apart. Ju-Jew Smith Schuster. McCull Hardman out. They say Valdez Scanling will play. He's not 100 percent. So I get a healthy team at home that is desperate playing with ultimate urgency. Meanwhile, you got the Chiefs here. Denver's a mess. Chargers aren't playing well.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Raiders are a bit of a mess. I like the Chargers. This goes down to the last play where I'll take my homes, but I think it's 31.30. I'm absolutely taking the points and the Chargers here. So I like my underdogs this week, although I would say, The favored Cowboys is my favorite pick, Dallas minus one and a half. And as Jason mentioned earlier, the Giants are winning, the Eagles are winning in Washington, must win for Dallas.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Not as much urgency for the Vikings who are at home, but come off a wildly emotional win over the bills. They pull back a little. Dallas beats the Vikings. All right. So as J-Mack was pointing out, a game. don't have in my picks because I think the line's about right. I think New England's going to win, you know, maybe by a field goal, that's kind of the line.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It's the classic Belichick against the kid quarterback. And the last time they faced, it was some mistakes by Zach Wilson. So, you know, Zach Wilson now, we are midway through year two. So far, he's been hurt a couple times. He's been erratic. He's been exactly, I got this one right, what I thought, which is talented, big arm, a little too much hero ball, lacks discipline, plays cocky, a little. loose for my taste, but all sorts of talent. So Zach Wilson talking about the critics and his
Starting point is 00:09:34 performance and what the critics know. I thought there were good emotions. I mean, I was frustrated and, you know, I still believe nobody outside of this building knows what they're talking about. So not necessarily to feel like I got to prove anything of, you know what, last game and they go, great, I got to do something different this time. Now his coach, and he should do this, I love when a defensive coach, because a lot of times they don't. Understand. Rex Ryan was awful at this. But Robert Sala is here to protect his young quarterback and make him feel right. And this is important.
Starting point is 00:10:06 You got to baby these guys. Remember, there's six wide receivers, seven wide receivers. You got one quarterback taking snaps at practice. Okay. And so Sala was on the volume with Mike Silver, respected veteran NFL reporter and said, Sala said, this kid's getting better. The critics are idiots. anyone who doesn't acknowledge the fact that he is light years ahead of where he was a year ago
Starting point is 00:10:28 isn't really watching football and not paying attention. And anyone who doesn't think he'll be light years from where he is now, next year from where he is now, doesn't, you know, you don't have faith in him. We have faith that he's going to continue to get better. Okay, so let's just go to some hard numbers. Okay, I'm a doubter. Sala's defending him.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Zach says we don't know anything. completion percentage, 33rd in the league. Touchdowns, the interceptions, 33rd in the league. Passer rating, 34th. That's among 35 qualified quarterbacks. Now, the good news is he's had the same coach and the same system for a couple of years. Look at Trevor Lawrence, who had to reboot playbook, reboot roster, reboot staff. If you look at Trevor Lawrence's numbers this year,
Starting point is 00:11:17 they're what you should see if a quarterback is a franchise guy in year too. He's completing 65% of his throws this year. 90 passer rating. 13 TD 6 picks. And that's a new coach, a new playbook, a new coordinator, new wide receivers, all sorts of movement in Jacksonville. And he didn't have the Jets defense. So whether we're right or whether we're wrong,
Starting point is 00:11:40 when I watch the Jets play, what I see is a team that sort of manages their quarterback. I don't see that with the Bears and Justin Field or the Jags with Trevor. they kind of let their guy go and they let their guy make mistakes because the ceiling is so high. I mean, I've seen Trevor Lawrence throw some terrible picks this year in the red zone, but they're letting him do it. They trust him. And Justin Fields, they're letting him do some stuff. They're letting him just go.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I kind of feel with the Jets, they're kind of managing Zach Wilson. So, J-MAC, it could be one of his key picks. I just, the numbers, as they say, don't lie. right now I see an erratic quarterback who's not disciplined enough, who has really bad moments in key spots, who I do worry he's a smaller athlete, Fields is huge, Trevor's huge, Trey Lance is big, Zach's kind of small, I do worry if he runs around,
Starting point is 00:12:40 is he going to be his own worst enemy? So there are two sets of numbers here. Number one, Colin, under pressure, he is unequivocally the worst quarterback in the league. He gets rattled, he makes quick, bad mistakes. when he has time to throw, pro football focus grades him out, clean pocket, above average quarterback. Okay. So it's can you protect him?
Starting point is 00:12:58 The offensive lines falling apart, as we know, right? They're on like their second string, everything, basically. And is Belichick going to just pressure the kid from the jump and he's going to fall apart and it's over? Or can he have a clean pocket? Can the run game work? Listen, I know you're probably over the Jets at this point. But, Colin, they've been a phenomenal story so far this season. There's a difference between a good team and a good story.
Starting point is 00:13:19 They've been a great story. Great story. Great story. Great story. So New York Giants, great story or a good team? Great story. Okay. So they're in the same bucket.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah, they have, the Jets have a great D-line and a coach with a ton of passion. The Giants have a great offensive-minded coach who's getting the most out of a limited O-line and a limited receiving corps. Experienced quarterback, Daniel Jones. I mean, he's like four years versus that. But I mean, I feel in both, I feel like the best unit on either team is the Jets' defense. defensive front. If you took the New York team, the Jets defensive front's the best unit for all of them. I think they both have really good GMs. I don't think either has the quarterback of the future, but both may have the coach of the future. I was a huge doubter on Sala first year,
Starting point is 00:14:06 but there is no question you can watch the Jets play and see his influence. That's my knock on Nathaniel Hackett. And Matt LeFleur, where's your influence? I got to see your influence with a team. Day Bulls and Daniel Jones, my God, that's why he should be coach of the year. I can see Pete Carroll's influence, Kyle Shanahan's. You don't have to win all your games. I can see the influence Sala has on the passion and the discipline defensively. And you can see it. And you can see Daibals.
Starting point is 00:14:33 So I think the coaches may be right. The GMs could be right. That's a terrific place to start. Can Zach Wilson be Jimmy Garoppolo? A guy who, by the way, I know you're going to scoff. Jimmy Garoppel, I think the stat is they're like 10 and 2 when he doesn't throw a touchdown pass or something insane. Can he be, don't screw it up, hand it off, we got our defense. Because that's what Sala came from in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:14:53 The offensive coordinator was in San Francisco. Like if they could just get him to be Jimmy Garapola. That's not his personality because he has a huge arm and he has mobility. Garopolo doesn't do some things because he can't do it. Zach can do all that stuff. It's very hard. If God gave you a singing voice, you're going to sing in the car, you're going to sing in the shower. God gave Zach Wilson an arm and legs and mobility.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You're going to tell him not. to use it for eight years. Like Garoppolo doesn't move and doesn't have a big arm. Like Alex Smith didn't have a big arm. So he didn't try to make dangerous throws. Zach, Zach's got zip. It's very hard to tell Josh Allen. Hey, rain it in. Terry Bradshaw, Aikman, Farr, rain it in. It's easy to tell Phil Sims reigned in. It's kind of like you trying to tell me, Jason. Hey, rain it in, buddy. Let's dial back some of it. Stop gambling, Jason. Just rain it in. It's not possible. Never. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app.
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Starting point is 00:18:10 Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett and I'm Alex English Each episode we pick it here unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s
Starting point is 00:18:26 To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack I'm down to talk about crack on day but yeah yeah literally but just so y'all know I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack
Starting point is 00:18:36 so I'm starting to see that there's a through line We also have AIDS on the table right now so Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So fired up for Qatar. A former midfielder, three-time World Cup, appearance member of the United States men's national team. USA's first game is one Eastern here on fall. against Wales. They are in our Group B. Kobe Jones, 12 years with the LA Galaxy. Three World Cup teams. The former Middy
Starting point is 00:19:21 is now joining us. So Kobe, here is my concern, Kobe. It's great to see you again. My concern. We're young. We got a good spirit. We're passionate. But you know what? I think we're a little pretty.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Are we tough? Are we resilient? World Cup is a lot of things. You're facing the world's best players. They're going to go after Pulisic. They're going to be physical against us. I think we've got as much skill as we've had. But what's the heart, the physicality, the resilience? Are you concerned that we lack that? Well, I think that is the general concern, right? I think without a doubt, when you look at this U.S. team, the skill set is there. The experience with high-level teams internationally is there. But is there the bite? You know, that's the question. We do have a few
Starting point is 00:20:11 players on this team when you talk about the bite when you're talking about Tyler Adams in the midfields you're talking about Musa you're talking about Weston McKinney those are the players they're all the midfield area but the question is up front do we have that you have players like Haji Wright that have come in maybe they're they're one-on-ones is it Ferreira but for me I tend to think that you know when you're playing in a World Cup the best comes out of you and the fight comes out of you and this is a team that has a skill set that matches the rest of the world. And so if they can bring that fight out, that American fight, that vigor inside,
Starting point is 00:20:47 I think they have the opportunity to do some great things. Pulisic is as talented as any player we've ever had. Now, something I've noticed over the last two years, teams attack him. They go after him. They get physical with him. Is there a way, how do you, you can't hide him, but are there a way, because I think Burrhalter knows he's become now, people go right after him physically. into his head. They verbally spar. That's kind of the game plan against America. Do we have a second Pulisic, a second player that you trust if he struggles that can rise offensively for us? Well, I would like to think so, and that's the issue for the United States. And that's Chris Polisic being the star. That's going to happen to you. They're going to come after you. The question is,
Starting point is 00:21:36 are there other players that can kind of take some of the weight off of him and garner some of the attention. I think most of that will come through the midfield for the United States. I think it's going to be players getting forward, late runs, joining into the attack like a Weston McKinney. Like I've mentioned before, I would like to think if we have the strikers that we've brought in, and you talk about, you know, Ferreira is a player that can do some special things on the ball. The only thing is, he's not as well known as Policic. So it's going to be that situation. He's going to have to make a statement early on to join. draw that attention away from all the other defenders that they're going to have to focus on him
Starting point is 00:22:16 instead of policing to help him out. The Qatar, let's talk about Qatar the experience. So listen, soccer players travel the world. We know that. That's what you do. You're often in foreign territory in the world. It's Qatar. It's the heat.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Brazil had some of that. The heat. Your takeaway on what you're experiencing so far about this. Well, if we're talking about the Qatari culture right off the bat, there were some expectations that were met. It is rather warm, you know, at night, not too warm, actually. There's a lot of talk about the stadiums being, having cooling systems, which I've heard have been absolutely fantastic so far, you know, beforehand. But then just like the Qatari experience, the city, the culture, the people, that's been fantastic, you know, all the way through. This is a new city that is, I think, blowing everyone's mind away about how nice it is, how bright it is, how vibrant it is with people everywhere just kind of enjoying the nightlife.
Starting point is 00:23:22 When you look at our group stage, I've said before, I think Brazil's the best team. Canada will be the most surprising. England's the most fascinating. We will play England in a week from today. I think it'll be the most viewed soccer game United States men's national team has ever played. So it's a week out, and I know it's our second game. What should we expect?
Starting point is 00:23:49 What are we looking at with England and America? Are they that much talented, more talented than us? Look, it's a very talented squad in England, and look, we're going to match up on Black Friday, right? So when you look at this matchup, you talk to a lot of the English and the English fans and the pundits and they're talking about how they're going to completely dominate the U.S. teams. They had similar statements, you know, two World Cups ago when it ended up a tie and the U.S. came out on top of the group. So I don't put a whole lot of stock into that.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It is a team that I expect thinks that they are much better than the United States. So I expect them to press and try to put that pressure on our back line. You know, for the U.S. it's really going to be about can you absorb that pressure and get the ball to the midfield. That's where our strengths are. That's where we can match up with England. We can play through areas. And then you put some players out of position in England, then you have that opportunity to counter. And we have the pace with players like Polisic. And you're talking about a variety of players up top Frera as well that can do some damage. I do believe we get out of the group stage. What will you need to see early, Kobe, that will leave you believing against Wales, okay, that's the right. mindset, what will you need to spot as an expert in this in the first 45 minutes that you'll be
Starting point is 00:25:11 like, yes, that's working, we're going to be okay? I need to see the U.S. basically last those first 15 minutes without giving up any major issues, giving up a goal or being constantly under pressure. They need to be able to play out of that. They need to settle into a comfort zone. It's a young team. Yes. So there may be some nerves early on in this match. So if they can get through that and get into just a rhythm and establish their play in the midfield, I think this is a team that can get the result against Wales. And you get three points against Wales, all of a sudden, everything's looking a whole lot brighter. They say if you win the first game in your group, you have an 80-something percent chance of going through to the next round. So that's
Starting point is 00:25:56 extremely important to get that result against Wales. By the way, you played in 11 World Cup games. Go back to your first. Because for a lot of guys, Kobe, I remember many of them. For many of our players, this is the first. I'm looking at the age of these guys. For most, it's their first. How nervous were you? Take me back to your first World Cup appointment. Yeah, my first game, it was coming off the bench when I came off the bench and played against Switzerland,
Starting point is 00:26:25 came into that match. I was in Detroit. I mean, it was a nerve-wracking moment. You're feeling the nerves, but you realize mentally, you're like, I've prepped for this. And you tell yourself, I've prepped for this for years. I'm ready for it, but the nerves are still there. But that's not important. It's about how you overcome those nerves,
Starting point is 00:26:45 and that's what's going to be the big issue for a lot of these young players. How do you perform when you are nervous? Because everyone gets nervous. It's about playing through it and playing beyond it, which is important. Kobe Jones, Fox Sports. The set is staggering. It's absolutely beautiful. I cannot wait to watch.
Starting point is 00:27:01 The first game for the States is Monday, one Eastern against Wales. Thank you so much for stopping by. You did great. Thank you so much, Kobe. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. You bet. Consumer Cellular.com slash the herd.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Promal code the herd limited time off for $25 off. Consumer Cellular.com slash the herd. J. Mack with the news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's revisit Aaron Rogers, Colin. Brutal night against the Titans, just spraying passes everywhere all over the field. Heard some booze from the crowd.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I know. They were not. It wasn't a chorus ringing down, but it was... Disappointment. Yeah, I mean, people in the Midwest are nice. I mean, Green Bay is not a booing town. People on the coasts are nice? Well, I mean, it's like Philadelphia, Boston.
Starting point is 00:27:50 You know, I mean, big cities are a little harsher. You know, Green Bay people are nice. Okay, there was some booze. So Rogers said afterward that it was not his best effort. I couldn't tell you to point to one thing. I'm not going to make excuses about my thumb. It's been the same since New York. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I got to go back and look at it. I felt like fundamentally I was in a good spot, but I just didn't have the same type of consistent grip and ball coming out the same way. I threw a lot of kind of wobblers tonight. So there was some wind, but just missed a few throws. I should have had him. Yeah, I mean, Tanna Hill was pretty good over the top.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Tana Hill outplayed Rogers by a mile. Yeah, Tana Hill had a couple of two or three really good deep throws. So now, now in fairness to Aaron, he's had a bad thumb for a lot of weeks. Yeah. Are we going to hear, oh, Rogers had an MRI on his thumb, and he's going to have to miss three weeks. Is that what's coming today?
Starting point is 00:28:49 No, I'm just saying I'm trying to be fair as America's honesty broker that his thumb, he has looked at it. Every week there's a moment where he's looking. I mean, like that throw for Aaron Rogers. That can't be, that's not Aaron Rogers. It's a layup. Yeah. I mean, like, that's miscommunication.
Starting point is 00:29:04 But I think his thumb is, and it's, oh, by the way, when you have an injured hand or an injured and it's cold. Oh, yeah. He's never dealt with that before, surely. Colin, he turns 39 in two weeks. I know, 39 years old. He's got this huge, huge contract. I looked this up in 2025, which is three years from now.
Starting point is 00:29:23 He has the biggest cap hit in the league at 59 million dollars. No, it's brutal. When you see him struggle last night, it hasn't been a good year. He's not running. Did you notice he doesn't run at all anymore? Doesn't leave the pocket, doesn't scramble at all. Zero touchdown runs, fewest rushing yards for his career so far this season. Let me throw this at you.
Starting point is 00:29:41 What is a team that? could handle his cap hit. I'm going to throw one at you. In America, I want you to listen. So I'm going to throw the parameters. They just nailed a draft. And they have a ton of draft picks next year. The Seattle Seahawks literally don't have to pay their tackles or Kenneth Walker for four more years.
Starting point is 00:30:04 The Seahawks don't have to pay their top corner for four more years. Or their edge rusher. If Seattle has a good draft, they can afford Aaron Rogers' cap hit. Pete Carroll's 70. He may not like a... I mean, Gino Smith could be better than C.J. Stroud. Tell me I'm crazy on this. You're crazy on.
Starting point is 00:30:25 No, you think Aaron Rogers to Seattle, huh? Well, time out. The only place it works, the only place it works is a team that has young stars you don't have to pay. Seattle has two star tackles and a star running back. You don't have to pay them. They have a star corner, a Russian. They have two corners. Don't have to pay them.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Seattle now is because of the Russell Wilson deal. Two first, two seconds, a third, two fourths. Just go to Green Bay and say, you give us Aaron. What does Green Bay need? They need multiple picks. They need more players. Seattle goes, we'll give you a first, we've got two. We'll give you a second.
Starting point is 00:31:04 We've got two, and we'll take the money. You think I'm nuts? Maybe there's something there? I need to give it a little more thought. This thing popped into my head a minute ago, and it's my best take ever. That's what I do. I get the wheels turning, and you just fire stuff up. So if you go to Aaron and say, listen, here's the bottom line.
Starting point is 00:31:22 We're going to sit you, Jordan Love. He's ticked off. What do you care? You're moving it. Jordan Love loses. What do you care you want a better pick? So now you're going to have a top 10 pick your own, and a middle of the pack pick with Seattle. So you have two firsts.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So you have two opportunities. take a quarterback, or you can trade one of those first to go up and get the quarterback. I'd go to Seattle and I'd say, give us a first, give us a second, give us one of your fourths, and Seattle will still have a first, second, third, and fourth. And they can handle Aaron's contract. Rogers didn't push for like a no trade or anything like that. I don't know. You're going to tell me that he doesn't want to, you don't think he's looking at Kenneth Walker,
Starting point is 00:31:58 Pete Carroll's got a Super Bowl or Matt LaFleur. Who's a better coach, Pete Carroll or Matt LaFleur? That's obvious. It's not even close. Seattle is one of those loose. Goosey cities with the ayahuasca stuff, that would go over pretty well. Oh my God, he'd have Iowa. Aaron could live in a tent
Starting point is 00:32:11 out in Kirkland. It'd be great. Psychedelic tea on the weekends. No, I mean, Aaron, no state tax. He's a West Coast. I think Aaron would love the Pacific Northwest. Now, of course, you'd be going into a division with Shanahan, McVeigh, Kyle Murray. Who gives a rip? You think Pete's not getting. Well, you're leaving the lions and bears.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Those are four wins all that. Minnesota's really good. Minnesota's really good. And by the way, if Justin Fields is what we both think, and Chicago's got the coach. And they're not paying fields for four years. How good is that roster? And they have the most cap space in the league in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You should open this up to Seahawks fans, see if they want Rogers. Or maybe they're just like, I don't want Rogers. He's washed. I want, you know, so. No, he's not washed. By the way. He didn't look good last night. He has not had a good season.
Starting point is 00:32:55 We would agree on that, right? He's not washed. Not washed, but on his weight. He threw 20 passes against the Packers against the Cowboys last week. That's it. That's a sign that they don't really. really trust him or maybe the receivers. You're going to bank on
Starting point is 00:33:09 Pete 70. Gino Smith or some rookie quarterback and half of them bust. I just like playing devil's advocate. Best take him ever had in the history of the show right there. And by the way, unprepared. The light switch doesn't go off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Just things coming out of here. Fast. Okay. Let's move on to the Eagles, Colin. They made some moves yesterday. We talked about their run defense getting lit up the last two weeks. They have added defensive tackle Indomacan Sue to a one-year deal and Linval Joseph they added. He was, I forget who dropped him, but they signed both of those
Starting point is 00:33:46 guys to shore up the interior. Jordan Davis, the rookie from Georgia. Right, right. Out. And it doesn't look like Fletcher Cox can really handle heavy snap to the position. So now you can rotate in three guys. I think there could be something here for the, I think there's a good move for the Eagles. Yeah, Indomicon, Sue, was he even playing? He was out of He was retired. He was with Tampa prior to that. So he's not going to do much. It didn't good, but all you need is 20, 25 snaps from him, right?
Starting point is 00:34:11 And then you get 20 from Joseph and then you piecemeal in. I don't know how good limbo of Joseph. I don't watch Interior DeLineman much unless it's Aaron Donald, the Fletcher Cox. Or the guy, Vita Villa. Quinn and Williams from that team. I will say Harris, who the Seahawks got from the Broncos. Shelby Harris having a nice year. Oh, my God, he's good.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So here's the other thing. The Eagles probably looked at the schedule and said, holy cow, we gave up a buck 50 to the Texans in Washington. They got Jonathan Taylor this week, followed by Aaron Jones, Derek Henry, and Sequin Barkley. Those are four of the six best running backs in the league. Eagles, Colin, you think they're going to be good with these additions? Well, I think they're going to be the number one seed.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I think, listen, they weren't going to go undefeated. It's just not realistic. There were actually people out there that I respect that called the shot and said Washington is going to, be a handful. Once you get into division games, I mean, if you look at Cincinnati off a buy against Pittsburgh, that should be 33 to 13 if they didn't play each other twice a year. But the staffs know each other, the personnel knows each other. So Pittsburgh's going to hang around a game with a rookie quarterback against Joe Burrow. That would be, if it wasn't a division
Starting point is 00:35:21 game, I'd be like Cincinnati wins by 14. Now it's at Pittsburgh, division game, Tomlin as an underdog. No, Jamar Chase. No, you know, so it's like, you get, Washington beating Philadelphia is not shocking. That's what happens in the NFL. I have Steelers in that way. I'm head-to-head with you. All right, let's wrap up with some major league baseball. Colin, Aaron Judge, wins the AL MVP, led the ALMVP, led the AL in multiple categories. Home runs, RBI on base percentage. 62 home runs, the new AL record.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Colin, he received 28 of 30 first place votes. Do you want to guess who got the other two first place votes? In the American League. He's a big star. I'll just hold on Americanly Astros Nope
Starting point is 00:36:10 Okay hold on Hold on I don't know Otani Oh yeah of course He had a good season NL MVP is Paul Goldschmidt
Starting point is 00:36:22 Ryan Do you remember what I said about Paul Goldschmidt You nailed it Colin No one else Only you were the one willing to have the confidence To just put it out there
Starting point is 00:36:35 I said it before you came on the show. What did I say? Most underrated player in the history of major league baseball. History of the sport? Is Paul Goldschmidt. Wow. I mean, this is now turned into the hot take happy hour. Seahawks getting Aaron Rogers and Paul Goldschman, the most underrated player in baseball history. Well done, Colin. I kind of called it. Yeah. I'm not going to call you shop, baby. I told, I said nobody ever talks about Paul Goldschman. You look up every year. Jacks, RBIs. I don't know. I don't either. Sometimes, folks, there's No reason to listen to any other show.
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Starting point is 00:39:46 Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your point. podcast. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'm Sam Jek. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence.
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Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm rooting TCU. Well, I'm not saying who I'm rooting for. We're not rooting for people. But I think Baylor was humiliated. TCU's off a wildly emotional win over Texas. Baylor's got a lot of good players and a lot of pride and a good coach. Watch Baylor give TCU issues. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:58 So I said this earlier. I can fix bad and I can protect good. I don't know what to do with crazy. The story with the Denver Broncos offense, it's getting weirder and weirder. So this is Tyler Palumbus, a former offensive lineman who played with Seattle and Denver, though not with Russell Wilson, but he knows a lot of guys in both locker rooms, and he's talking about Russell Wilson, the audibles, and what he is hearing. Probably over the last two, three weeks, you've got Russell Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett
Starting point is 00:42:31 have their first real marital problems, disagreements on the fly. of the offense. More concerning to me, though, Russell is losing his mind out there. He's losing his mind. He's at the line of scrimmage using audibles from the Seahawks. The guys don't know what the audibles are. I mean, he's using code words.
Starting point is 00:42:50 The guys don't know what the code words are. And they're coming back to the huddle. And they're like, dude, what are you saying up there? We don't know what the play. We don't know what that is. So do we give Seattle credit for hiding this stuff, suppressing this stuff for years. Because we've heard now since Russell left multiple players and Pete,
Starting point is 00:43:12 he wouldn't use a wristband. We had to go through his manager to talk. It was all about Russ. I don't know. I'm not in the locker room, but we've heard it now. You know, in Seattle, Russell was a little corny in Denver. It's full-blown unsolved mysteries. He won't run.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Nobody can figure it out. He's now apparently using Morse code at the line of scrimmage. His deep ball accuracy has fallen off the cliff. He keeps defending his head coach. There's a lot of stuff here that, like, I can't really explain it. I don't know. I don't know the answer. Again, I can see bad and fix it.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I don't know what you do with this. I really don't know what you do with it. Russell Wilson's legacy, here's what's happening. Is this going to be like the Hershal Walker deal that built a dynasty in Dallas and ruined the Vikings? Is Russell Wilson going to be part of a near dynasty once in Seattle? And then because of the draft picks they got for him, part of another dynasty once he left Seattle. This is starting to look like the greatest heist since some like art gallery was robbed in Paris. This thing is crazy and it's weird and I can't figure any of it out.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And I know Russ and I know his people. I can't figure any of it out. Morris Code at the line of scrimmage. I don't even know what to make of that. You know, I said this years ago on this show. I don't know if I've said it. Is that good kids can come from bad parents. Bad kids can come from good parents.
Starting point is 00:44:57 All crazy kids come from crazy parents. This has gotten crazy. And I don't know where it started. I don't know where it's ending. But he's now using audibles from another team. I mean, off a buy, they didn't add one extra series or one. I mean, you complained about this on social media. Off a buy, you bring in tricks.
Starting point is 00:45:18 You move pockets. You try to, they didn't get to the red zone. Off a buy and half of Tennessee's defensive starters missed the game. So is it weird that nobody's come out and shut? this down or anything like that? How come nobody has Russ's back here? Maybe he hasn't endeared himself to that locker room. I told you last weekend against the Titans,
Starting point is 00:45:41 a lot of Russ sitting by himself on the bench. Like nobody around him. I saw someone with Aaron last night, with Aaron Rogers sitting by himself. I will say this, Aaron didn't play well. I think some of it's the thumb. But when you watch that game last night,
Starting point is 00:45:56 from the very first drive on, what did I say yesterday on this show, and I believe this to be true? It was going to be a referendum on Matt LaFleur. I saw Matt LaFleur got outcoached. Think about this. I have seen Aaron Rogers and Matt LaFleur lose to Zach Wilson,
Starting point is 00:46:14 Daniel Jones, Taylor Heineckee, and now Ryan Tannehill. I forget Jared Goff. It is hard in this league when you have a Hall of Fame quarterback. That is such an advantage. Now, it's different. It would be one thing if, you know, and these are pro athletes.
Starting point is 00:46:30 They're all good. But I always say this. When you watch football, our next guest, Mark Sanchez, knows this. When you watch those Jets teams, I could tell in the first two series what they did well. They were going to run it. They were going to keep, you know, it was a convert third downs, play defense, field position. I don't have to have your playbook. I can tell what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I can watch USC with Lincoln Riley and go, ah, there's the weakness. Utah played USC. I could tell Utah coaches said, we don't respect USC's weak side linebacker spot. we're going to attack that with our tight end over and over and over. By the way, that's what Oregon State did. Every team's got strengths and weaknesses. Good teams go right at it until you can stop it. I will say this about Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:47:15 What are they? I know what Brable and the Titans are when I watch them. That first drive was eight yards, physical. They throw to two receivers, one tight end, and they use one back. They got four guys and they lean on them. They asked Tannenhill to make about two big, deep throws a game. they have an absolute offensive core belief system and identity. I still don't know what Green Bay is.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It's like they're just Colin plays. I don't know what it is. I said this yesterday. It's going to be a referendum. Did you think from the first series on, you knew exactly what Tennessee wanted to do? I still don't want Green Bay is trying to do. What do they do well?
Starting point is 00:47:53 We both like Tennessee last night, right? Getting the points. No, no, no. I thought Green Bay would win by a field goal, so I thought the line was right. But the first series, I'm like, yeah, I'm on the right, I'm on the wrong side. Tennessee is one of the best first quarter teams in the league. They just come down on their script and smash.
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