The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Blazing 5, QB position

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

Colin gives his new Blazing 5 picksCarson Wentz is starting to play betterGetting it right at the QB position is vitalGuest: Joel Klatt Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastne...twork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:39 It's the herd, brought to you by Jersey Mike subs, be a sub above, wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. We will keep you abreast of the Matt Nagy situation. That game's on Fox tomorrow. I think Detroit upsets Chicago. That's my guess. I think they're getting really close.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yesterday was a weird situation where Matt Nagy canceled his meetings at night, met with ownership. There was a story out there that he's going to be fired after the game. There's another story in Chicago today. The locker room is unsettled
Starting point is 00:03:18 because there's no clarity with it. So, you know, players just, you've got to point him in a direction. You've got to give players a feeling do this or don't do that. And there's lack of communication. So don't be surprised if, and Andy Dalton's now starting,
Starting point is 00:03:31 which half the locker room may not believe in. If the Bears lay an egg tomorrow, don't be surprised. I'm not generally a fan of firing coaches midseason unless there is severe dysfunction or issues like the Raiders situation. I just think it's very disruptive. And I think it's on the front office and the ownership to just kind of keep things on the rails until the end of the season. I get it for college.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's a little different because you want to get ahead of hires. But for the NFL, like these coordinators not making decisions are really focusing on that until the end of the season if they're looking for those. jobs anyway, but it's looking like it's getting a little wild in Chicago. So here we go. All of our odds provided by Fox Bet Sports Book off a winning week are Blazing Five. That's a hot one.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins Blazing Five. Raiders and Cowboys. You know, I take one big favorite a week. I'll take the Cowboys minus seven and a half. Tyron Smith, ankle, he's going to start at left tackle. Dak at home with Tyron Smith wins most of his games.
Starting point is 00:04:30 C.D. Lam, Practical. today. He's probably back with Michael Gallup and Cedric Wilson. Dak Prescott at home this year has been a different quarterback with 118 passer rating, off a disappointing loss. And right now, the Raiders have everything from tragedy to chaos to an interim coach. They are now converting in the last two weeks 12% of third downs. This is a free fall Raider team. Dallas gets healthy and wins. 30 to 20 swallow the points. Steelers at Bengals. Tomlin is an underdog. He may be the NFL's best underdog coach. I'll take the Steelers and the
Starting point is 00:05:06 points here. By the way, they get very healthy. T.J. Watts's back. Joe Hayden's back. Minka Fitzpatrick is back. By the way, they are 0 and 4 when T.J. Watt doesn't play. He is the MVP of this team. And Big Ben in the last five games is actually, because of Naji Harris and that young offensive line improving, Big Ben's played well. Last five games, nine touchdowns, no picks. In fact, he's the only starting quarterback in the league without a pick in the last five games. So I think Pittsburgh wins straight out. Take the points, 26, 24.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Jets said Texans. I like the Texans minus two and a half. When Tyrod Taylor is playing quarterback, they don't make a ton of mistakes. He can run for touchdowns. He can pass for him. They're two and one when he plays. I think they're playing really hard.
Starting point is 00:05:54 They're in a lot of their games. And I think they're going to beat the Jets. I would take the Texans. By the way, the Jets defense, this team is, so bad defensively. They're last in virtually everything. They're allowing quarterbacks to have 108 passer rating. And again, Tyrod Taylor has six touchdowns this year. Pass for three. He's rushed for three. Zach Wilson will be the third different quarterback in three weeks. There is no continuity in games. I'm going to take Houston to win and
Starting point is 00:06:22 cover the spread 3023. Buccaneers at Colts. I like the Colts at home getting a field goal. Brady's not the same quarterback since he arrived in Tampa on the road. He's great at home. He has the comfort. He moved his family. He needs that comfort of home. Didn't used to be the case. He's not been a good road quarterback. And by the way, the Colts take the ball away and don't give it up. They lead the NFL and turnover differential. And Brady has had a little interception problem. Carson Wentz, 97 passer rating this year. And it's getting better because Jonathan Taylor is number one in virtually every running back data point. Right. We thought Buffalo's defense was great. He ran
Starting point is 00:07:00 through it. The Bucks are coming off a short week. Also, Antonio Brown may not play, and they are two and three without A-B-B-this-year. Vida V is hurt. Their guard, Ali Marpet, excellent is hurt. I got Indianapolis winning the game outright, 27-21. Chargers at Broncos. My favorite bet of the week. Like it, I love it. Broncos plus two and a half. Listen, the Chargers have a bad defense, and Denver is going to run the football and control time of possession. And Denver's held their opponents under 20, three of the last four games, the Broncos defense, top three scoring defense in the league, Bridgewater doesn't make mistakes, three games without a pick, and the Chargers can't defend the run. They've not won consecutive
Starting point is 00:07:45 games since week four and five. There's certain things in this league you've got to do. Got to be able to run the football at some point. Now that Pittsburgh is, oh, it's a different team, and you've got to stop the run. Or you sit in the sidelines and watch the other offense. So Justin Herbert, He'll win, he'll lose. He'll win, he'll lose. This feels a lot like to me, the Minnesota game where Justin Herbert's going to end up watching a lot of this. I'm going to take Denver straight out to win at 28 to 24. Over a team, I love watching play, they're just not a great team yet, the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:08:16 So a couple of favorites and three underdogs, favorite cowboys, favorite Texans, and then I'll take the Steelers points, the Colts points, and the Broncos. with points. I know. Everybody thinks I like the charges. I bet against them all year. I've got great success. And with that, the voice of college football at our network, Joel Klatte, who is getting ready with Gus to do the game of the year in college football, Michigan, Ohio State, Saturday at noon Eastern on Fox. How are we doing? Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Happy thanks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:51 So Lou Holtz used to say it's very difficult to get the same game two weeks in a row. There's girlfriends, there's mid-term. Sure. There's limited. practice in college. So Ohio State plays offensively the game of the year. And by the way, they were a good matchup against Michigan State and their secondary. Michigan has been a very good football team this year, outplayed the team that beat a Michigan State. This feels competitive to me. It could be. I try to, you know, there's been so many years when I'm like, man, this is Michigan's best chance. This is Michigan's best chance. They, they certainly, They certainly match up better this year than in previous year, specifically the fact that they can get to the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:09:35 These two pass rushers now are excellent. Aidan Hutchinson on one side, David. He'll be a top 10, 12, 15 pick. No doubt. Absolutely. Probably one of the best edge rushers in the draft. And then on the other side, a guy that no one talks about but also has double-digit sacks is David Ajabo. And he's excellent and has really come on in the back half of the year.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Ohio State is a pass-oriented offense. They may bristle that I would say something like that, but the data backs it up. On base downs, first down and 10, second and six are shorter, they're throwing the ball over 60% of the time. And probably rightly so when you've got a quarterback like Stroud and the wide receiver core that they have, all three of these guys are first round talents. He's cutting better. No doubt. I mean, against Oregon, I was like, I don't know if he'll start next year with that five-star kid coming in, but something clicked. And he was great in the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And there is a constant to when he is great. and when he struggles a little bit, that constant is making him uncomfortable in the pocket. They've got a great offensive line, and in fact, they've got four tackles that start. They move two tackles down to guards. They've got four offensive tackle. They're a great pass-blocking offensive line. And when they keep him clean, it's over. It's like Brady back in 08.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You know, like if you don't get to Brady, it's over. You're not defending these wide receivers for any amount of time in the back end. and the games in which they've struggled, Nebraska, Penn State, even early in the season against Minnesota and Oregon, what they did is they made him uncomfortable. They gave him different looks and they presented some pressure, whether it was in the interior or off the edge, to make him move out of the pocket. That's what he does not do well as a young player yet. When it's clean, he's as good as anybody out there.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So this matchup, I would suggest that Michigan is one of the three or four worst matchups for Ohio State in the country because of the pass rush. I'm not saying that they're going to win. I'm just saying that this matchup feels like Michigan has a bit of a chance versus previous seasons that we've seen when they had a defense that ran one coverage and man coverage, and if they couldn't defend for long, it was over, right? This is a different style. I said we love redemption stories in America, and Mel Tucker's going to sign with Michigan State,
Starting point is 00:11:52 and James Franklin says, I'm staying at Penn State, and Harbaugh in the offseason. who could have gotten an NFL job, he got to the Super Bowl. He reworked his deal and took less. Eight, nine years ago, the Big Ten was a tire fire. And today, it is a solid number two conference. No doubt. I think it's got excellent recruiters, Mel Tucker, Harbaugh. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Well, Ryan Day is the best in the bunch. And Franklin. Franklin recruits well. I look at the Big Ten today. And it's not the SEC to me yet. But I see some really good quarterback play. I see excellent coaching. I see some really good recruiters.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And that James Franklin move is like, no, I'm not going to live on a beach in L.A. I'm not going to Baton Rouge. I think it's significant. The one word that you didn't mention is revenue. They're the only conference in the country that matches up with and even at times exceeds the revenue of the SEC. And that's because of the footprint that they're in,
Starting point is 00:12:45 the alumni base that they have in that conference. Overall, the largest alumni base for a conference is the Big Ten. That's why the ratings are so big. watch Ohio State games and Michigan games. Those are big schools. Huge, huge alumni bases. And because of that, they have an enormous amount of revenue. Now you're seeing that. So James Franklin signs a 10-year extension, 10. And the buyout language is such that the school really has no option. The buyout language is this. And you have to read down through the contract. Basically, he's going to get paid $8 million times however many years are left on the contract.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So think about that for a moment. That means like, In six years, if he goes seven and five and they want to make a move, in six years, they would still have to pay him $32 million to not coach. So this is an incredibly friendly contract for James Franklin. They can't move off of this. Penn State can't, which means that he can put down roots. By the way, let's not just pass over the fact that we've got two coaches that are making a push here late in the season that have made their entire career on standing pat
Starting point is 00:13:51 and being confident and comfortable where they're at. and that's Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State and Kyle Whittingham at Utah. Think about that. So there's these two guys, long-tenured guys. I played against Mike Gundy. That's great. Like his first year was 2005 when I was a senior. He's been there forever.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And here they are making a late push, Utah, doing Utah things late in the season. Oklahoma State has a chance at a playoff. And I think other coaches around the country look at that and they say to themselves, you know what, I can make a lot of money at my current job. Why do I have to go chase it? why in particular at places that you might get fired in three years if it doesn't work out at the top end so i think these are smart moves credit to penn state credit to james franklin congratulations on a great contract okay so let's look at the college football uh the play off you know what's interesting people get all worked up but georgia and bam are
Starting point is 00:14:42 going to play yes so uh georgia could lose and they'll still end up in there but probably yeah i think if bama loses they're out and if if if the only scenario could if if you don't mind me interrupting Michigan's going, if Michigan loses, then Bama has a chance to be a four. If Bama loses the Iron Bowl but beats Georgia, oh Lord. I'm just saying, that's plausible, right? So they could be a two loss, but they would be an SEC champ. They would go even with two losses as an SEC. Wouldn't you agree? Yes. Okay, so there's, there is an avenue for Alabama, even if they were to lose one of their next two games. Now, having said that, everyone's like, oh, we did it. The group of five is in the top four,
Starting point is 00:15:22 Cincinnati, all they got to do is win. Hold on a second. And I'm not arguing that Cincinnati shouldn't go. All I'm saying is, ye of small memory. In 2014, in the first iteration of this playoff, TCU was included in the top four in the next to last poll. You know what they did? They won by 50 that week and were dropped out of the top four. I remember it. So just be careful. All I'm saying is Cincinnati fans, this is not in your hands. Even if you win out, there are scenarios where, like I said, Alabama loses Iron Bowl Beach, Georgia. I mean, there are all sorts of, what if Oklahoma State rolls out there and begins to do to Oklahoma this week and potentially Baylor next week, what they have done to everyone over the last three weeks, which has played incredible defense and win by upwards of two and three scores?
Starting point is 00:16:15 Let me throw this at you. And so Bama doesn't have Georgia's defense, nor do they have. have Ohio State's offense. But between the two, they're pretty good. If Ohio State played Bama today, a couple years ago, was it last year of the year, I think it was a year before, a couple years ago, I made my biggest college football bet
Starting point is 00:16:32 ever. Everybody loved Ohio State over Clemson, and I said, I get Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I remember that. I'm going to take Clemson. It's my biggest college football bet. And the Buckeye fans, lucky, blah, blah, blah. You know, this has never happened in 10 years. We're sleeping on Alabama. I still get the best, I get the best coach.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I get a terrific young, terrific. young quarterback. It's a young team. I get the best left tackle. He's going to have time to throw. It's a younger team because they've lost so much talent. But Sabin's teams get better over time. And everybody looks at Arkansas and goes, well, I mean, they struggle with Arkansas. Arkansas is a real team now. Not bad. I bet against, you know, I mean. But this is not a passing juggernaut. And they gave up well over 300 yards of passing to what's KJ Jefferson. Tomorrow, Ohio State Bama, who do you take? Where's the game? That close.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Right, yeah. So I'm acknowledging your point. Where's the game? Yeah. I mean, I think that it's pretty clear that Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State are the three best teams in college football. With Georgia having separated themselves out a little bit, and Ohio State clearly being great at their top end when they play like they did last week. And Alabama being interesting. And this is what I think you're talking. This is the point that you're trying to make is that we're sleeping on the fact that they're not potentially dominant. But that doesn't mean that they're going to lose. right? Is that what you're trying to say? It's like, I don't trust. This is not Bama
Starting point is 00:17:51 last year, certainly. No. But that doesn't mean that we should just think like, oh, they're going to lose to, even to Georgia with Stetson Bennett. Are we convinced that Stets and Bennett's going to beat Georgia? Or excuse me, beat Alabama? I don't know. I'm not. I'm not convinced either. No. In particular, when Alabama will have to win, and Georgia will be like, well, we're in regardless. Think about that dynamic. Who's to say Bama doesn't beat Georgia? Okay, so I just want an update on this stuff. one of the reasons I haven't talked a lot about the LSU opening or the USC opening, because I don't believe the reports.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So I don't think Jimbo Fisher or Lincoln Riley are leaving their very good job. I agree. If I said, I'll give you the program and you tell me who you think the coach will be. This morning. I know, LSU. That's a really tough one. Matt Campbell. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:43 All right. I owe a state guy. Florida. Bill Napier. Yeah, they like him. USC. Dave Oranda. From L.A.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Baylor guy. He's only one one year. I understand that. And people have talked about he's very a deep thinker. He's not what you would think of when you think of L.A. But I've heard that that's getting some momentum. Very interesting. So let me throw this out there.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I think both of you, both of us share in this that we think Brian Kelly, It was really turbulent his first few years. They had a tragedy. You know, he can be animated on the sidelines. Yeah, remember how angry he would get with his quarterbacks. And we don't like that. At the NFL level, he's changed. He's evolved.
Starting point is 00:19:33 He's funnier. He's lighter on the sidelines. Does Notre Dame have a shot to get in? Yes. I'll kind of tell you something. There's no doubt they do. If Notre Dame gets in with this team, which is a rebuild on the O line, this team should not be, I think,
Starting point is 00:19:49 Ryan Kelly, again, we are sleeping on this guy. So when I did their game, remember earlier in the year, I did the Wisconsin-N-Dot-Dame game in Chicago. And since we were so close to the campus and we never get to be on campus because we don't do their home games, I thought to myself, this is going to be my best chance to do in-person meetings with Brian Kelly. So I flew in a day early and made sure we drove down to South Bend from Chicago just so that I could be around. Because you only get so much on conference calls or on Zoom calls. even though I had called Brian Kelly's games before, I'd never sat with him in the room and done a meeting with him prior to a big game.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And so I wanted to take advantage of that opportunity. And I was blown away by what I had seemed, what seems to me to be like this transition, a guy very confident in who he is, where he is, how his teams are going to win. And he was very straightforward with me about the fact that they were going to do everything that they could and put together a game plan, but this was not his year.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And I was almost taken back. And he wasn't saying that they were going to lose to Wisconsin. He wasn't trying to talk me off that leg. He was just trying to say, like, this is not the team that we're building towards. We've got some great pieces, and he loves Kyle Hamilton, and their tight end is absolutely amazing. There's no doubt. But they're unsettled at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:21:09 They're developing on the offensive line and haven't been as dominant as what they have been in the last couple of years. And he was adamant. He was like, listen, this is a development year. for us. Well, so in a development year, here's the Irish 10 and 1. How about that? This guy has done a remarkable job, and I think that guys like Brian Kelly don't get the credit that they deserve. A guy like Mike Gundy has not gotten the credit that he deserves or what Kyle Willingham does on a year-in and year-out basis. And everyone goes to like, well, who's the hottest name and
Starting point is 00:21:37 who's done it for one year? And all these names get thrown out there, the lower level guys. And here's this guy at Notre Dame that has won more games than anybody in that position in the school's history. He's also got now more 10 wins seasons in a row than any other coach in their history. People don't understand that. I say to themselves, hey, do you know that Notre Dame is currently on their longest consecutive year streak of double-digit wins? They're like, no, no, no, that's not true. It's absolutely true. I understand that there's more games, but Notre Dame is in a sweet spot right now with Brian Kelly. Yeah, people don't realize this. So when I used to work at the other company, and I don't know what happened to it when I left, not good things probably.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But when I first got there, like 17 years ago, that company aired about 50 college games. Now it's 500. So what has happened is that if you wanted to get on TV in the Lou Holtz era a lot of times, a lot of the traditional northern powers, Penn State, Washington, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, they were on television. Sure. Then we started airing all the games. And the kids in these states like Georgia are like, how neat?
Starting point is 00:22:45 to go north. That's right. I can stay with my friends. And so the expansion of the television opportunities in college, I mean, Boise State's on seven times a year. Yeah, so Georgia and Oklahoma sued the NCAA in the mid-80s in order to expand basically the rights and get the rights from the NCAA into the conferences so that they could sell their own games. So since this has happened, northern powers outside of Ohio State have mostly shrunk and the powers in college football have mostly been warmer powers. So I think it's harder to win in the north now because you don't have dominant television, television exclusivity. I mean, Notre Dame had its own network. Sure. And so I think it's harder to win now at Notre Dame. More kids,
Starting point is 00:23:26 they'll say, I just going to stay home. It's warmer weather. My girlfriends here, my friends are here. I even remember, let's go back like, you know, so right before I got to high school, let's call it the mid-90s, right? So I'm in junior high in like 94-95. And I remember it would be huge news. I grew up in Colorado. And if someone got a letter from Notre Dame, it was like, oh, they're being recruited by Notre Dame. And it was a big deal. I don't know if it carries that cachet now, which speaks to what you're trying to talk about, about the difficulty they have in recruiting.
Starting point is 00:24:04 It's not quite what it once was. Plus, they've got the academics, they've got the weather. And the Big Ten's the best it's been in a long time. So those Northern powers are stealing some of their recruits. So what Brian Kelly has done and built at Notre Dame should not be overlooked. They absolutely have a path to the playoff. If Cincinnati were to trip up, like let's say next week against Houston, and Houston's won 10 in a row, by the way, under Dana Holgerson,
Starting point is 00:24:31 if the Big 12 splits it out and their champion has two losses, there's all these scenarios where you're sitting there and you're like, well, yeah, Notre Dame would be the fourth team to go to the playoff. And here we would be on a down developmental year for Notre Dame with Brian Kelly in the playoff. It's certainly plausible. Two years ago, somebody at USC said, who would you hire his coach? And I said, well, go out and weaken your rival
Starting point is 00:24:53 and strengthen you at hire Brian Kelly. And they're like, do you think he's a good fit out here? I'm like, he's won everywhere. Everywhere. I think he would be a terrific fit. And I don't think he would leave because, like I said, man, that week was maybe more eye-opening to me than any week that I've had
Starting point is 00:25:09 on campus, in front of a coach. It was a terrific meeting. I loved sitting there with Brian Kelly. Great job. Michigan, Ohio State. Game of the year in college football. Can't wait. Good to see anybody. Happy Thanksgiving to you. Joy, happy Thanksgiving. Everybody, enjoy your week with your families and enjoy the football. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the
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Starting point is 00:28:49 Coverage begins at 10 Eastern with big noon kickoff live from Ann Arbor. Then it's the game Saturday on Fox and the Fox Sports app. Those big 10 games have gotten massive ratings. I remember years and years ago ESPN decided to put a college football game on a Saturday night. We always played them in the early morning in the day. They put a big and it got huge numbers. Everybody was like, oh people people watch Saturday night college football. I thought it was date night. And now we decided we're going to put games on at noon because now all the games are getting pushed back
Starting point is 00:29:20 and it's been a big hit. Networks, here's a reminder. College football works. Just put the games on. People like it. You think about these Big Ten schools. Wisconsin's got like 40,000 students and Ohio State's massive and Michigan's big.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And these schools, Nebraska, they're just sending out graduates all over the country. Big Ten games. as long as they're competent, the Rose Bowl used to get a 10 rating in New York because there's Michigan and Ohio State Grads all over New York City. Joy with the News.
Starting point is 00:29:51 No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. Sponsored by Mercedes-Bets, the best or nothing. Also, people like to watch rivalries, even if they're not personally, emotionally invested. When you know that the stakes are high for everyone in the game and all of the alumni watching,
Starting point is 00:30:10 it just feels like it matters. And also it feels like Joy, because of the mobility of professional athletes, we don't feel like we have as many professional rivalries. Yes, the mobility, I think also just because of the access that we have to every single game, I think younger fans are more fans of players than they are necessarily of the teams. Yeah. And that kind of moves the needle as far as the hostility goes for rivalries. for rivalries. So it's been 728 days, but the game is back, and Ohio State will face Michigan. Their rival this Saturday, and Buckeyes head coach Ryan Day said this is what they live for. Well, we work it year round. You know, every day we work it, you know, we work in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:31:00 We work it on Fridays. They're in the wait room. You know, we have so many different things that we talk to our guys about. We have, you know, our sessions in the preseason and in spring. We have meetings about it. So we just constantly talk about it, and we talk about it in recruiting. This is our number one goal here at Ohio State is to be the team up north, period. There is a lot of pressure, and that's the way you want it. You know, you want this game with everything riding on it at their place. It's going to be, you know, wild environment.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Again, that's why you come to Ohio State. And the opposite's true in the NFL. No games bigger than the other game. We got a game next week on to Cincinnati. in college, it's not like that. Yeah, you have to have a shorter memory. Well, you recruit against your rivals. So it's really important.
Starting point is 00:31:43 So many kids, there's a lot of kids that'll come down in Michigan or Ohio State. So winning that game and making that call to the wide receiver can be the difference getting him and not getting it. Yeah, I mean, I think divisional rivalries or divisional games in the NFL, those feel like they have a little more edge to them and you play the same team a lot. But this college is just different. It's just a different energy when it comes to the rivalries. And they're storied. they have real animosity to them. They didn't play Michigan last season, obviously, because of COVID.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And at the start of the season, Jim Harbaugh said his team would beat Ohio State and win the Big Ten or die trying. It's a little hyperbole there. But the Bucks have dominated the rivalry recently. They haven't lost since 2011. Ohio State is ranked at two, Michigan at five. And the winner will go to the Big Ten title game and be in position to make it to the college football playoffs. So aside from the rivalry, there is obviously a lot on the line here. coverage begins Saturday at 10 a.m. Eastern with big noon kickoff on Fox and Ohio State is currently
Starting point is 00:32:41 favored by eight, according to Foxbat. I think I'll take Michigan on that. I think I just think it's going to be competitive. I think Michigan is a really good football team. They can, I think there's going to be a lot of points. I'll say that. I think there's going to be some points. Well, multiple reports yesterday indicated that the Jets will start Zach Wilson against the Texans on Sunday, and it's good that he's ready to go because Field Yates, a VSBN reported, they placed Joe Flacco and Mike White on the COVID reserve list. Josh Johnson on the practice squad is now in line to be on the active roster for Week 12.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Flacco is unvaccinated, so he will be out 10 days if he tested positive and five days if he was an unvaccinated close contact. Robert Sala said this morning, when someone offers a six-round pick for a player of Joe's caliber, there is no risk. Well, I think we see now what the risk of that was. If you went back the last three years in the NFL, give me an organization that has been more chaotic than the Jets. The Lions.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I guess. The Texans. But what are you competing for? But I think that the Jets are just louder about it because it's New York. And the Jets just, you know, it's easier to take shots at the Jets. You don't really want to take shots at Detroit. Texans is like a weird situation. And, you know, they have been competitive recently.
Starting point is 00:34:13 So it's not like it was, you know, a consistent amount of dysfunction. Yeah. And then obviously the Browns were in that caliber up until recently for many, many years. But it just, it just feels like the Jets can't get right. It's always something with the Jets. And I don't, I think you only change. something like that with a culture builder. Like I think that's the difference to me
Starting point is 00:34:35 with Cleveland, why I take Cleveland seriously. And in the past, I haven't. Because it's not like they've always been devoid of talent. It's just like you don't have any identity. There's always something going on. It's always loud. It's always something. And I think when you have a really strong culture,
Starting point is 00:34:51 even if you're struggling or you show signs that you're building a culture, like obviously Detroit is not very good. But we talk about it all the time. They're in games. They're One possession games they're losing. They play hard. Let's all just compartmentalize that Steeler game.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And they've got good, great left tackle, a great young tight end. They've got some pieces here. I still think the Lions should trade out of the number one spot. Somebody needs a quarterback. Okay, somebody needs a quarterback. Trade out of it. Get multiple picks. You could get three, four first round picks.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Could you get five picks in the first two rounds? And for Detroit, that's five new starters. You're watching Pittsburgh. They drafted four offensive players in a row to, start the draft. All of them have been hits. The tight end, the running back, and the two offensive line. Yeah, you have to hit it. I would not. I'd go golf one more year. There's nothing out there in college that blows me away. Yeah, I mean, if this was a strong quarterback draft, obviously, you would feel differently. But they need so much that it might
Starting point is 00:35:48 make sense to try and get, now you have to hit all your picks, but I don't, I don't necessarily disagree with you because it's not really a quarterback draft that we feel very strongly about. Well, the Jets are 2 and 8 and last in the AFC East, and they play the which you have in your blazing five. They're currently three-point underdogs, and you're taking the Texans, right, according to Foxbat. All right, another team is dealing with a lot of dysfunction is Chicago. Report surface yesterday that Matt Nagy would be fired following tomorrow's game with the
Starting point is 00:36:14 Lions. Nagy said there's no truth to that, and he is not letting the rumors get to him. Now, the bears have never fired a coach mid-season, so this would, at least in the case of the bears, be rather unprecedented. According to Jordan Schultz, there's an overwhelming number of bears players who want Nagy fired. Now, Jordan does a podcast with Bears receiver Alan Robinson.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Another source told Schultz, he's lost some of the locker room last season, but now it's gone. Nagy reportedly told players it was about them moving forward and that no one knows what tomorrow will bring, and that's in regard to a report from the Chicago Tribune that he met with the ownership prior to
Starting point is 00:36:52 the Bears walk through yesterday, and he spoke with the team and canceled the rest of the meetings for the day. I don't like to put everything at the feet of coaches. I think the front office made a lot of bad decisions as well, and they deserve some credit for what's going on with the Bears. Matt Nagy has gotten Mitch Chibisky to the playoffs. I think Schlaherst mentioned it earlier.
Starting point is 00:37:16 He won 12 games with Chubisky. That's impressive, considering he's not a starting quarterback in the league anymore. But once you lose a locker room, then it becomes a problem that is basically not fixable, especially if you're not winning. If you're winning, you might be able to win the locker room back, but they're not. And if they lose to the Lions tomorrow, then it's really going to feel like it's over. If Goff plays, Detroit wins.
Starting point is 00:37:38 That's my prediction. If Goff plays Detroit wins. Well, Dan Campbell said he's 60% that he's 50-50, so we don't have an answer on that yet. But the bears are three-point favorites over the lions tomorrow. Good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Who is the greatest program and the greatest coach that has not won a championship? We saw him last night and he won again. We'll talk about that. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines.
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Starting point is 00:39:15 Yep, that's me, Clipper Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
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Starting point is 00:40:41 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little kill? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This Thanksgiving, you have a free chance to win $100,000 of Terry Bradshaw's money playing Fox Bet, Bet, Super. Six. Congratulations to Nate from Nebraska. Who won Terry's
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Starting point is 00:42:12 are Brady goes to Indie to take on Carson Wentz and the Colts just hammered Buffalo. And then the other game is the Rams go to Lambo to take on Green Bay. And Carson Wentz and Matt Stafford with the two big moves, quarterback moves in the offseason. But for Wence, it's funny about momentum. Wence had the COVID protocol, right? He was unvaccinated. He was near somebody. Then he got hurt. And the Colts offensive line was a bit of a mess in September. And so Wince didn't get off
Starting point is 00:42:50 to a particularly good start. Plus, a lot of people were doubting that he was worth the money and worth the acquisition, right? So that was the story. And so people really haven't paid attention to what Wentz is doing because they got off to the slow start. Now, Stafford goes to the Rams. McVeigh showers him with praise. Sofi Stadium finally has fans. He gets a big win over Brady and the Bears early.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And it's seen as a huge success. But this morning, Wence has 18 touchdowns, three pitchers. a 97 passer rating and 63% completion percentage. And it's getting better because he's now, those numbers include an ugly September. He has two ugly losses, but he has an above average offensive line, I think, better than Stafford's. And Stafford got off to this praise-filled start, but he has 24 touchdowns in eight picks, also two ugly losses, good passer rating, 67% completions. But if Wentz beats Brady, he'll be seven and seven.
Starting point is 00:43:51 and five with a better running game than Stafford, a better offensive line than Stafford, and an easier division. And if Stafford loses against the Packers and it's close, I mean, it's a pick-em game, he's seven and four without the offensive line or running game and basically trying to make OBJ work. Because I saw a story yesterday where Sean McVay said, quote, yeah, the OBJ thing is a work in progress. So this weekend's interesting.
Starting point is 00:44:21 We viewed it because of the start by Wenz and the criticism of the move. It's been spotty. It hasn't been spotty. He's been playing great. And Stafford got all the praise early, but their last two games have been a mess. And so we could be looking at this weekend. Wentz has the better team, the better defense, the better momentum, the better running game, the better O line, easier division. And Stafford's in trouble.
Starting point is 00:44:46 but this story's taken a real pivot because we kind of didn't like the Wents move. We did, but most didn't like it. And it was so ugly to start, we just buried them. Colts are really close to being one of the hotter teams in the league now. They're playing really good football. I just don't think the gap. Wentz is a bigger, more physical athlete than Stafford. Stafford's a prettier thrower of the football.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It just looks prettier. McVeigh's clever. I don't think there's a big gap. I don't think the gap is nearly as pronounced as people think. Stafford's better. I think it's fairly close. And it'll be closer after this weekend because if Aaron plays bad toe and they get a couple of guys back, I think the Rams could lose. I was thinking about this this morning that for years and years, Andy Reid, and this is the way it works in the NFL, got a lot of criticism because he couldn't win the big game.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And Andy Reed was the last great coach in America, who we knew was great, but he didn't win a championship. And because he went to Super Bowls, he got to five NFC championships, he went to the playoffs in Kansas City. But then he got Mahomes, and you're as good as your players, asked Bill Belichick, right? You're as good as your players. And then he got Mahomes. And now all of us are like, you know, he's as good as Belichick. Mark Few is the last great coach in college basketball. maybe basketball in the country.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Because if you look at the NBA, who we consider great coaches, Popovich and Steve Kerr, you start looking around it, guys. Eric Spolstra, the great coaches of all won. They all got at least one title. Women's basketball, the top six, seven programs are Yukon, Notre Dame, Baylor, Stanford, South Carolina, top five, six programs.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Last decade, they've all won a title. If you go to the top men's programs, Carolina, Duke, Nova, Virginia, Baylor, Kentucky, Kansas. Only Gonzaga is the program you're like, oh, they don't have a, they don't have a title. But what's interesting is where Mahomes ended up getting Andy Reed, his title, Chet Holmgren, and the Zags crushed UCLA last night. UCLA is considered the first or second best team. Gonzaga, first or second. Gonzaga rolled them.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And now Mark Few is getting Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren, a seven footer out of Minnesota. now getting, I mean, he is a unbelievably skilled player, they're now getting the best player in the country. And I watched this game, little bits and pieces last night, like UCLA had no answers for Gonzaga's offense. And there's an argument to be made in the last six or seven years. Gonzaga is the best, it's the best program in America. And, but they've been doing it with transfers and Washington State kids and like the fourth best player out of California. Now they're getting Jalen Suggs. Now they're getting Chet Holmgren. Now they're getting guys Duke used to get in Kentucky got and watch out because UCLA is old, returned starters, has an NBA player, has a great coach,
Starting point is 00:47:54 and they mopped the floor with an excellent UCLA team that will probably end up in the final four. So Gonzaga feels like Mark Fue feels like the guy, he's never had his Mahomes. He finally got one last year and he got to the final. But boy, did they look good last night. The top women's programs, the top men's programs. Everybody's got their ring. Everybody's got their trophy except Gonzaga. And boy, they looked like it last night. And thank God most of those good Baylor guys went to the pros.
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Starting point is 00:49:06 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. gas. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clippert Show on the IHeart The radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:49:44 On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
Starting point is 00:50:02 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important. year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.
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