The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Buccaneers, Burrow, Durant

Episode Date: October 27, 2022

There are some flaws in the Buccaneers offense Joe Burrow's resurgence from last years run to the Super Bowl Kevin Durant is constantly dealing with drama on the Nets   Guest: Greg CosellSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. Greg CoSell is going to come on for 15 minutes. I'm so excited for Greg today. There are some great topics here, and I don't have the answers to him, and he watches film, and he has the answers to him. So this is going to be a really good 15 minutes with Greg CoSell for 43 years, breaking down film.

He is the truth serum. They say alcohol is a truth serum. I say crisis is a truth serum. The truth is Greg Coe sells a truth serum. He tells us the truth. J-MAC is joining us. J-MAC is it possible in Greenback? The Packers just don't have enough good players.

On the offensive side of the football, yeah, I would agree. Of their last 11 first-round picks, tenor defense and one's Jordan Love. Could that be it? not saying that's it, but I was thinking about this. You know, we've been talking about Aaron Rogers going public and Aaron says, hey, people don't like the truth. The truth is if Matt Lefleur ripped Aaron, Aaron would pout.

So mirror, mirror on the wall. Spare me on that, Aaron. Aaron loves the truth if he can deliver it. But what if somebody delivers the truth about Aaron Rogers? He doesn't like criticism. So he got to scale me back. You saw the Kansas City Chiefs in the last hour just traded for another wide receiver. They've got a million.

They just traded for a former first round pick. Cadarius Tony, who was kind of languishing on the Giants. Mahomes watch him work very quickly with a young receiver. Aaron's not working with his young receivers, too. So I just want to talk about this. Aaron also said this yesterday. Let's play the tape. You know, we got to get our best 11 on the field.

And if, you know, if that means going different personnel groups, then we'll have to do that. But we can't have the same, you know, double-digit 15 plus mental errors and expect to move the ball efficiently. So my takeaway is do they just not have enough good players? The wide receiver group for a variety of reasons is not performing. I'll ask Greg CoSell about that. Is it possible it's a bottom six or seven receiver group in terms of talent?

The offensive line, we predicted this before the season, is pretty average by Green Bay standards. The special teams in Green Bay remind me of a bad bullpen in baseball. You get nervous every time it's on the field. The defense is, I look this up this morning. So it's 14th. 14th. That's having faced Justin Fields, Brady with no receivers,

Bailey, Zach Wilson, Daniel Jones, Taylor Heineke. It's 14th with that. And now Buffalo comes to Colin. Vegas pulls the emotion out of it. And there are a 10.5 point dog. So with a back-to-back MVP. So is it possible? They just don't have enough good players. It's again, their last 11 11 first round picks, tenor defense. One is offense and to this point, he's not playing.

Three years later, Jordan Love, and doesn't appear to be close. So I don't sit and watch film. I don't know what's wrong with the defense. And that's why we bring on Greg CoSell joining us live. So before we get to Green Bay's issues, I thought it was kind of a shocking performance. Matt Iber Fluse pulled a Belichick on Belichick. He literally handcuffed young quarterbacks, which Bill's done for 25 years. But let's talk a little bit about Justin Fields, who both of us said last week doesn't look terribly comfortable after the first read in the pocket. I thought they moved a pocket.

Luke Getsy moved it. What did the tape say? What was the secret sauce? Why did some of it work? Well, what they're clearly doing because they want to win games is they're using Fields running ability. They had 10 designed runs versus the Patriots College. So they want to use his legs. Keep in mind, Fields is 6'3 close to 230 pounds.

He's not a little scatback. He's a big man. a physical man and a competitive runner. Now, the big question, and I certainly don't know the answer to this, is if you're going to ask your quarterback to run more and you would also like him to be an improvisational player, if you see something in the drop back pass game, then how do you develop the requisite skills and trades needed to become a pocket player? That's always the question you have with quarterbacks that tend to run.

You hope that as he continues just to get more experience, that he will develop those traits. He needs to maintain higher eye level more consistently. He needs to stay more poised and calm within the pocket when there is no pressure by NFL standards. He needs to develop a better understanding of route concepts versus specific coverages. He needs to deliver the ball with better timing. The question is, how do you develop those traits if you want him to be more of a runner. And I don't really know the answer to that. I'm not a coach, but that will have to happen at some point because you can't live like this over a longer period of time. And he was a first round

pick. So they expect him to be their quarterback for quite a while. I know we talk about that it's a passing league, but the Giants are clearly leaning into Saquan Barkley. And is that the same thing that has rejuvenated a little bit the Raiders offense? Oh, for sure. I mean, And just a quick note on the Giants, Daniel Jones has been making a lot of critical third down throws. Over the last four games, they have been outstanding on third down, and he's been outstanding on third down. And if you can do that, you can live with the running game as your foundation. But getting to the Raiders, what Josh McDaniels did, which I think was very smart, three games ago, he said, you know what, we need to stabilize our offense.

And how do teams stabilize their offense in the NFL? They don't do it by tossing the ball all over the yard. They do it by running the football. So three games ago, they started to give the ball to Josh Jacobs. And he's had 28, 21, and 20 carries in the last three games. And the other thing that he did, because they took the fullback that he had with him in New England, Jakob Johnson. They have increased significantly the amount of what we call 21 personnel,

meaning two backs with the fullback on the field as an eye back. and that's the way they've been predominantly running the football. So they've stabilized their offense. They've given it to Jacobs. That allows you to get certain more predictable fronts and coverages so that if you do want to throw the ball, it's relatively easier for your quarterback. I said during the second half of the Cowboy Bingle game,

I said Cincinnati's getting it right. Yeah. You could see it. I'm like, they're fine. You guys can sell your stock, all buy it. I think they're hard to defend for a lot of reasons. When you have a superstar, you just watch them, and it's no fun. I mean, Jamar Chase has to be doubled or he's going to be really successful.

So that tilt your defense. When you watch the Bengals offense, what do you see? Well, first of all, they work a lot outside the numbers. And it's very difficult to double receivers outside the numbers. Chase leads the NFL in catches and yards versus man-to-man coverage. Okay, cover one, which is man-to-man with a single high safety. And the large majority of those throws, Colin, come outside the numbers. And that's really, really difficult.

They're starting to get a little better up front. They're increasing their use of empty sets, which really defines things for borrow, who's an incredibly smart quarterback, defines things for borrow before the snap of the ball, if they want a pressure, he can see it because a defense has to declare when it's an empty set. And right now, he is playing with such confidence. You can see it. He's such a comfortable player. There's a poison composure to borrow.

He's an easy thrower, not a gun thrower, but an easy thrower. All right. Tonight, Tampa Bucks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Ravens. I think the Ravens are a really good team. They're just not closing games out. I don't know if Tampa's issues are fixable. They're a terrible running team, and they lost Ryan Jensen for the year. Terrific center.

Al-Umar Papp, very good left. Shack Mason comes in. Then they're on their second or third, left guard, right guard. It's a mess on the interior O line. That tells me, I thought Ryan Jensen was so great. I don't know if it's fixable. I think this is what they are, which is Brady throwing 45 times a game, and that's not a Super Bowl team.

That's not a Super Bowl team to me. You look at them. Are Tampa's offensive issues fixable? Well, first of all, I think you have to start with the run game. And they run the ball an awful lot on first down, and they're not very good at it. And I think when you watch the tape carefully, you see that Leonard Fernette is not really a feature back. So they're trying to run the ball behind an offensive line that is certainly, to be kind, a work in progress, and a running back that's really not a feature back when you look at his skill set and traits. So you start there. Then the second thing that really shows up on tape, and I think this is where Brady has been so good throughout the large, large majority of his career is working between the numbers and between the hashes. And you don't see those throws right now, whether that's a function of lacking a tight end. That's an open question that's debatable. But not many balls, as they were in the past, are being thrown inside. And Brady is a master at working between the numbers between the hashes. And you,

You just don't see that in their offense right now. Let's talk Baltimore. I like the team. They've let every game by 10 points. Lamar is struggling in the fourth quarter. It should be noted that Mahalms sometimes this year has struggled in the fourth quarter. So fourth quarters are hard. I think their problems appear more fixable.

Or are we looking at a team when teams are really good taking the lead. My takeaway is some of it is. you got a darn good coach, and the coach, you know, you practice. Like I watched Miami, Tua, first 20 plays. You're like, that's practice. That is scripted. That is brilliant. And maybe with Baltimore, they got a good coach.

They got a good system. But in the end, at the end of games, you know, they've fired off all the bullets. They don't have a ton left. I mean, what's the film saying? Why are they so bad late? Well, I think from a tactical perspective, I'm not talking about, the quarterback now. I'm talking about from a tactical perspective. They have a limited passing game. So think about this. In a league where passing the ball would deem to be pretty important,

they don't line up hardly at all with three wide receivers on the field. Through seven games, Colin, less than 10 percent of their offensive snaps have come out of 11 personnel, meaning three wide receivers, less than 10 percent. And something that fascinates me about this team, and I'm not making a judgment because I don't know the answer to this, and I'm being honest, is they play with Patrick Ricard. Okay. Now, he is a eligible receiver. He's a fullback or a tight end, but they never, ever use him that way.

So therefore, on every snap, they're essentially playing with four eligible receivers by choice. And I just find that fascinating in this era of football. So their past game, just by very definition, is limited. Okay, so Green Bay. Now, we've already moved week seven to finger pointing. Aaron's calling out a coach. He's calling out players.

So I said before I brought you on, are there receivers too young? Are they untalented? In the last 11 first round draft picks, 10 have been defensive players. One's been Jordan Love. Right. But the film says different things. And you were one of the very first that was critical of Aaron saying sometimes you could tell a play was called and he didn't want to run it and he was going to do his own thing.

And I mean, are these receivers untalented? What is the film saying where they're anemic pass offense? Well, as in most cases, you know, everybody wants one single answer. There's never one single answer. You know, their O line has been in a state of flux this year. Yes. I mean, they're starting O line this past week from left to right was Tom, Jenkins, Myers, Runyon, and Neiman. So they've moved people around a lot.

that's been a little issue. This was the first time this unit had started together in those positions. Their run game has been very inconsistent. They try to get Jones on the perimeter. They try to work Dylan inside. It's been a little inconsistent. I think quite honestly, I can't speak to all the mistakes because I don't know what's coached and what's not coached.

So all we have to do is take Aaron Rogers' word and maybe other people's words for that. But I say Rogers has also missed some throws that we normally expect him to make. They've been very poor on third down. In their last three games, they've only converted 25% on third down. So this offense stops itself a lot. And they have long yardage third down plays. They're not in third and three and third and four very often at all. My guess is in the NFL that rookie receivers do tend to make mistakes. My guess is that the Packers rookie receivers are not the only rookie receivers that make assignment mistakes. So, you know, I don't know where to go with that, Colin. You know, I think that you have to work through that and you have to play.

And ultimately, ideally, it gets better. But right now, I say that there are numerous areas in which they're not functioning well. And that includes Aaron Rogers, who I would say based purely on tape study, is not playing up to his standards either. Yeah, by the way, he takes off seasons off now. I wouldn't have with rookie receivers. I mean, frankly. I think that's a great point. You know, and you can speak more about that. I'll watch the tape.

But if you're talking about chemistry, chemistry doesn't happen. You know, long-distance relationships tend not to work. All right. The Niners ran into a buzzsaw. I like Jimmy G. More than most. As you have acknowledged for years, the Niners asked him to make a lot of tough throws. And he's pretty darn accurate, making those tough.

throws. But I watched their offense in the second half and it felt uneven. It didn't feel like they played to their strengths. Defense wasn't good. What's wrong right now? What's off kilter with the 49ers offense? Because it looks off kilter. I would agree. And I think this was a game, unlike the week prior, where the game to me was close enough where I was expecting to see more run game. This was the second week in a row that they had 42 called passes for Jimmy Garapolo. You and I, as much as we like Jimmy G, know that that's too many. And I think they know that too. And this game, they were never really out of it until the fourth quarter. Maybe Kyle felt that, hey, his defense was struggling. He felt that the Chiefs were going to just continue to score.

And he felt that he had a play as if it was a shootout. That, you know, I don't know the answer to that. That's a hard thing to know what was in Kyle's head. But you and I both know that this is not a team that can have 42 called passes and 18 called runs and expect to be consistently successful. I'm very anxious to see how McCaffrey has worked in this week. He played 22 snaps a week ago with 10 touches. He will become their feature back. The question to me is this is will they use him in two back sets, not with Use Check,

who, by the way, will be out this week, but let's say put Jeff Wilson as the running back and McCaffrey split and see how defenses respond to that. See what their personnel package is number one. Will a defense stay base or will they go nickel because they'll view McCaffrey more as a wide out? You know, these are things that they have to figure out. But I think you'll see two backs, two running backs on the field and McCaffrey will play many more snaps this week.

All right. Biggest shock in the league isn't really the Giants. You could argue it is. I would argue it's Gino Smith's career. bus to back up to star. Now, some of it looks like to me, I'm a sea hot. You know, I grew up in the Northwest. I watched the Seahawks.

It looks like they nailed the draft. Starback, two good tackles, a great corner. I mean, listen, Kenneth Walker, and we said this during the draft, he led college football in yards after collision or yards after contact. He is a great, great college and now pro running back. Is he the reason? Is Gino the reason? Is it the offensive cord?

Because the defense is still shaky. What's doing it in their offense? Well, Gino's been phenomenal, and his third down play has been off the charts. I mean, we're not going to sit here and recite numbers because people can't see the numbers, but he has been phenomenal on third down. Now, there were two very legitimate criticisms of Gino Smith prior to this season. One was that he was far too conservative with too many checkdowns. And the other was that he was too tentative in the pocket with poor field vision,

and that led to a high sack rate. He would get sacked a lot. Neither of those issues have been prevalent this season. So you're seeing a quarterback that's clearly more comfortable, that's delivering the football, that's willing to push it down the field, even when the throws and windows are tight. So he's been a different player. And as I said, the third down conversion rate has been really good.

And the third down conversion rate, as we mentioned with the Giants briefly earlier, has to be good when you run the football, because you are going to get to some third and six and third and sevens that are tougher. But I think he's been the driving force. Now, I really like Kenneth Walker. He's a, he's a true run to daylight runner, Colin. He literally looks for space and finds it. Yeah.

Now, now they face a Wink Martindale Giants defense. And, yeah, I mean, he, listen, Wink's been around a long time. He's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. They throw a lot of looks. What do you make of that match? What do you make of the Giants defense? I wish I could be in Wink Martindale's head for this one because the last two weeks,

he's done totally different things against different opponents. And it's such a fascinating tape study for me because it's just totally different. It takes me longer to watch because I'm just trying to figure out all the things he's trying to do. So he'll have something that Gino has not seen in the last three, four, five weeks. And I don't know what that is, but he's very good with his pressure front looks. he's outstanding with disguise and late rotation in his secondary. And he will show Gino Smith all of this to get him to think he sees something and it's not really what he sees. So this is a really good test for Gino Smith.

And if he can pass this test, then I think we can probably say that he's not likely to fall apart, which I know a lot of people are probably waiting for. Okay. But we look at offense in this league. and Daniel Jones, as you've pointed out, is Brian's giving you the best version of him. So your big player of the week is Daniel Jones. Yeah, and Jones has been really good.

I mean, look, obviously Barclay, it starts there. He has the most first down rushes of any back in the league. But Jones, in every game, your quarterback does have to make critical throws. And he does have to read coverage. And he does have to hit big play somewhere along the line. if you want to be a really good, good offense. And I want to show you an example of that last week. So let's take a look at this touchdown that Jones threw to Darius Slayton, who's probably their number one wide out right now. And this was a 32-yard touchdown. And it was a really well-thrown ball, as you can see, on a fade ball.

So let's look at this from the perspective of Daniel Jones. He's in the gun. They're in a three-by-one set. So what does Jones see right now? He sees two deep safeties. two shell, a split safety look. But now what's going to happen at the snap of the ball is there's going to be safety rotation. The field safety to the receivers, three receiver side will rotate to the middle, and then there'll be a blitz by a second level linebacker. So that's what you're going to get. So now what does Jones see? He sees a safety in the deep middle because they've rotated. He knows he has one-on-one with Slayton versus Trey Herndon on the outside. That's where the ball has to go. Then you've got to execute the throw, and it's a well-thrown ball, and it's a

touchdown. So the reason I think a play like this is important, as we see the ISO of Slayton versus Herndon, is when you get these opportunities, you have to convert them. Very often we see teams get these opportunities, Colin, they don't convert. The giants are converting. They're obviously not a past first team. They're not going to ask Jones to sling it around the yard. But when they do get opportunities and the third down conversions, as I mentioned, you have to take advantage. Good stuff. Greg CoSell, as always, money on a Thursday. Greg, thank you so much. Thanks, Con. Yeah. And I thought his answer with Aaron Rogers was very honest. When I asked, well, Aaron takes the summers off, which would be great if Devante Adams is coming back. But you

had two rookie receivers. It's like, if you don't study for the test, I don't feel bad for my kids if you fail. You've got to be able to see trouble before it arrives, right? That's what any CEO would do. Oh, this is going to be a problem. Let's fix it. So Aaron is doing ayahuasca and having a good time. I would have no problem with that if you had veteran wide receivers. I mean, at this point, if Josh Allen with Stefan Diggs said, you know what, I'm going to take June off, they'll be good, right? But you had a bunch of kids and not only you had young receivers, they're small college receivers. FCS program. So it's like you kind of get what you get.

And we knew, again, Rogers knew, Aaron's smart. This was going to be a very choppy offensive line for the Packers. Hell, I'm, I could see it. I said going into this season, this will be the weakest, not terrible, but the weakest front Aaron's head. I like their backs. But it's a, and I like that young tight end, Tonion. But it's a pretty weak O line.

Aaron doesn't like to get popped in a bunch of rookie receivers. And Sammy Watkins, who you brought. and can't stay healthy. This is all, as I said Monday, completely predictable. You don't study for the test, you fail it. You don't hang out in the offseason with the rookie receivers. You're going to have trouble. As Greg Kosell said, they're rookie wide receivers. They're not Jamar Chase. They didn't play at LSU and the SEC. They haven't played against these kind of athletes. I mean, Jamar Chase is different. He's going up against Alabama NFL, you know, great SEC. These are small college guys. It's a massive adjustment. Now you're playing with this iconic Aaron Ron.

Rogers. Aaron's off having a good time golfing in the summer. Not that, not that surprising. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

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Dodgers lose and it's Dave Roberts. The Yankees lose and it's Aaron Boom. You're blaming the waiter because your food's bad. That's what you're doing, baseball guy, seamhead. You loved Buck Showalter all year. Oh my God. He's the great. greatest. I'm a baseball casual. I love the Mets early too. Watch them play the Dodgers in a series out in L.A. And I think I said at the time, this team could win the World Series when Scherzer comes back and DeGrom. But the long baseball season unveiled the truth. Mets didn't have enough sticks. I think they had one guy hit over 300. They just couldn't get hits. And against the Padres, they couldn't get hits. One move here, one move there is not the difference.

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So that great Yankee team in the first half and they were great was average at the end of the year. 35 and 35 in the second half. They were the epitome of average. They could hit the long ball and not much else. And we were so fascinated by Aaron Judge and his story we should be. He's amazing that we didn't look at the truth about the Yankees. They were an average team. It's really hard to lose a leadoff hitter.

A great setup man. Trade for an outfieler. he gets hurt. It's not an Aaron Boone story. The Mets, it's not a Buck Showalter story. They don't have enough sticks. He spent a lot of money on pitching, you know? So we're trying to blame the waiter for a bad meal. Baseball managers have little say, the great ones all time, or maybe worth four or five wins. That's it in a 162 season.

You got to stay healthy. You need a lot of talent. And right now, Houston has a lot more talent than the Yankees. Any little mistake can the Astros completely punish you. That's what the Yankees did back in 2009. J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. You know, Aaron Rogers stood by his criticism of the Packers saying that he believed his comments would benefit the team. But Matt LaFleur was asked about those statements as well, and he agreed with Aaron Rogers. We have to be truthful with one another, and sometimes the truth hurts. I don't think he publicly called out individuals.

I don't believe. I didn't sit there and listen to the whole thing, but so I just think that you have to get to the root of the truth. And that gives you an opportunity to learn and grow, and we can't run away from that, ever. And no different than when we're in those team meetings. We've got it. You know, you always call it how it is. And I don't think anybody's off limits. And starting with myself.

Okay. But if you do criticize Aaron publicly, how will it land? That's my question. It's great to say the truth hurts. But what if somebody says the truth about you, Aaron's history? I can say this from people I've known that known Aaron. You don't like criticism. He'll ghost you.

So again, if you want to do it. deliver the big strong opinions, I do every day. I get hammered every day. I don't have a problem with it. I'm in a strong opinion business. But Aaron wants to deliver strong messages. I'm okay with that. A, you don't have to do them all publicly. B, can you take the strong message back? Greg Kosell just said. I probably should have spent more time in the offseason with your receivers. Greg Kosell just said, Aaron's not playing great football. Is Aaron okay with Lefleur saying that publicly. I wish Aaron would have been around in the off season and work with these young receivers. How would that land for Aaron? Hey, nobody likes the truth around here. That's part of the truth.

Something I try to live by a credo, if you will. Praise publicly, criticized privately, you know? Like if you're out to dinner with several other couples, you know, you're not going to say something criticizing your wife in front of them. Maybe at home you will. You probably wouldn't do it because you're such a class actor. Yeah, yeah. Never criticize the wife ever. But yeah, there's no point in him criticizing all these people publicly, especially when they've lost so many games in a row.

Bad time for that. Speaking of bad times, Ezekiel Elliott sat out of practice yesterday, Colin. Knee spray, and he took this shot right here, if you could see it. Oh, oh, on the knee. I was stunned he came back to the game. As someone who was betting the Lions, I was instantly worried because Tony Pollard is better than Zeke Elliott.

At any rate, Zeke is listed as doubtful. Can I say this? You're pretty good with this betting stuff. One of the most disrespectful lines I've ever seen. The Bears are what, eight and a half nine point dogs against the Dallas team with a BB gun offense? I think it was the Dax first game back against the Lions.

He's just working back in. Nine point spread. Green Bay is only a 10.5 point to Buffalo in Buffalo off a by. It was a week ago. We were saying the Bears, in what power rankings were like maybe 31 or 32 in the league. Then they pulled this colossal up.

So you think the game against New England was a magical moment, not a truth? 100%. Okay. What do you think is the real bears? The team we saw the first six games or there's fluky performance Monday? I think they're very well coached defensively and it shows. And I think there's limitations to Justin Fields, but there's limitations to DAC. We're not talking he's Josh Allen here in Mahomes.

Listen, I've already criticized Belichick enough. Why didn't he spy Justin? Fields. Justin Fields just running around every time he drops back to pass. What the hell game plan was that, Belichick? Costs me a lot of money. I'm out of my Survivor League. I guarantee you. Guarantee you. Justin Fields will not be running wild against Dallas. Not with

Micah Parsons. Oh, no, you're right. You're right. This is a bad matchup for the Bears. And also, short week on the road, then you've got to go home. And now back on the road, Sunday, I like Dallas or nothing on Sunday. And finally, Tua made his return last week after missing time with that concussion. You know, Sunday's game against the Steelers, they look great,

early and Tua a couple times lowered his shoulder on a scramble. Little cringy watching at home, you feel kind of bad for this guy. He said his coaches want him to avoid those plays in the future. Obviously, had my coaches telling me, we don't ever want you to do this. Obviously, I get that coming off of the injury and what had happened, you know, prior with the concussion. but I don't know To me it's

it's football I mean you know you go out there and like for me I can see the first down in instances and you know

want to do all that I can to go and get it you know what I like about that answer it's the same answer Joe Burrow gave me in my podcast when he said it's football you're going to get hurt potentially

Joe Burrell is like I've had second half I don't remember stuff Like, I know people are uncomfortable with that. But if you're a UFC fighter, if you're an NFL football player, these are levels of regulated violence that will occur. And Tua is owning it saying, I'm a football player. There's a first down marker. It's easy to, people get very uncomfortable with this.

I get it. But the football player, I hear people that have never been in the military talk about the military. And it's like, well, before I put something on, I'm not going to talk about the military. military. If you're playing football at this level, it is understood that sometimes you need a first down. There are dangers is a strong word, but what Tua is telling you is what Burrow told me. It's football. This is part of what it is. It's tough, strong, big men, hitting people. Yeah, well, remember Kyler-Marie sliding for that first down he did not get, and they ended up missing the field goal against the Eagles, Tua ain't doing that. And I just worry about this guy.

I know that Tua, he's on his second coach. He's at multiple offensive courts. He's in his third year. He wants that other contract. Dude, you got to, he gets another concussion, Colin. I just don't know what the future of Tua is in the league. I feel when I watched Tua a little bit like I felt watching Alex Smith when he came to Washington. After that leg injury? When I watched Tua and I see pressure, I'm like, get rid of it.

Yeah. I'm uncomfortable. That's what I'm saying. I am uncomfortable. And I said on this show, I don't think he's in the league in four or five years. I don't think Tua is. but he wins a lot. He understands the reality of his sport, and he's voicing it.

You may not like what he's saying, but what he's saying is there's the first down marker. I want to get a first down. I want to win games. How about this? I understand it. I just, I feel bad for it. I like, but this is what he signed up for wanting to play football, right? And he's telling you, I'm comfortable with it.

I may not be. I watched Alex Smith in Washington and said on the air, I can't watch these games. He almost lost his leg, didn't he? Well, and then when you see the fencing of the hand with Tua. So a quick word on the Detroit Lions. We watch that game closely. This is a hard-hitting fast defense. They knocked the Zicielelli out.

They knocked out the tight end. Aiden Hutchinson's playing well. This is not going to be an easy game, I don't think, for the dolphins. Three and a half point favorites on the road in Detroit. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News.

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and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so.

Thank you for finishing that sentence. And I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When Kevin Durant left Oklahoma City to the Golden State Warriors, I think we all, I was totally surprised. I, you know, came out of nowhere.

I didn't even know how it would work. I mean, you had Steph, you had KD, you had Clay Thompson. That's a lot of shots. But with Steph Curry, everything works. Pre-superstar won a title. With KD, won titles. Without the superstar and a bust, Andrew Wiggins, right? Many thought he was a bust?

Titles. Emerging young stars, fine. Dremont drama, fine. That's what a culture is. Steph Curry, the warriors are more than just a bunch of dudes. Brooklyn is the opposite of Golden State. Brooklyn is just compiling players. There is no culture.

And it is remarkable. This is where I feel so bad for Kevin Durant. Everybody makes mistakes. But you get tied into a contract. It's a career killer. And Kevin Durant now is with a team that every month has a drama. I mean, the Warriors Draymond was a drama. It's just an incident.

That's just an isolated, rare incident. Brooklyn has one every month. There's the vaccine stuff. There's the James Harden quitting on the team stuff. Here's Ben Simmons. He refuses to play stuff. And now, through all these games so far, Ben Simmons has 18 fouls this year,

13 turnovers and 21 points, and Kyrie Irving is there to defend him after the game. He's a basketball player. He's a professional. He has the skills to be a great professional. He's done it in the past, and he hasn't played in two years. you guys keep coming here asking me like what about Ben what about Ben and it's just he hasn't

played in two years give him give him a chance you know what I mean we could stay on his shit stay on I wish I could say other words because I'm from Jersey but we think he may stay on him and uh like you just stay on him and and we're just here to give him positive affirmations while he's out there and just let him hook I don't disagree with that but I do feel bad for somebody I like a lot Kevin Durant the Draymond Warrior and that's a great culture. The drain, like when, if Mahomes came out and said, I want to go play for the Jags, because my buddy plays for the Jags. I got a buddy who's a wide receiver. We would think he's out of his mind. But it was amazing that the NBA media too often coddles at stars that people

were like, well, he just wants to go pursue his dreams. It was a tragic career move. It was the worst. He left the best culture in the league, the best culture to no culture. They're just a players. And so I look at the Nets and people get worked up over the Draymond Green thing, which I thought was inappropriate, but not outrageous. There's fights all the time. We just saw video. But every time the Nets take a step forward, there's a major incident. I mean, Kyrie won't get vaxed. He can't play home games. That is what? If you had a great culture, that would be hard to overcome. Brooklyn doesn't. Then there's the James Harden quits. if you were the warrior's culture and Draymond quit, that would be hard.

And now Ben Simmons comes and I can't play and won't shoot. Clay Tom, what if Andrew Wiggins came and wouldn't shoot? I mean, so if you had a great culture in Brooklyn, this would be incredibly hard to overcome this constant, constant step forward, two back, two up, three back. This is just a compilation of, a compilation. of players. It's not a team. It's not a culture. I mean, KD, I forgot to add this one. KD demanded to be traded. That's another piece of drama. What's the back? What's the identity of the Nets,

Colin? KD's really good. That's the identity of the Nets. Katie is really good. I mean, he gives you great. I mean, I watched some of this game last night. But Milwaukee, by the way, has a culture around like Steph, a very selfless star in Janus. They add pieces, no drama. Here's how I would sum up Milwaukee. Janus and no drama. That's how I would sum them up. Brooklyn is star and nonstop drama. Well, it's weird.

Everywhere Kyrie goes, there's drama, right? In Cleveland with LeBron at the end. Then he goes to Boston and remember issues with Brad Stevens and the young guys and now in Brooklyn. Huh. It's just weird how that works out, I guess. Crazy. Very strange. Strange, crazy.

Out of character for Kyrie Irving to create drama. All right. Hour number three in a Thursday next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

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