The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Colin's NFL Mock Draft

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

He releases his final mock draft with an NFC contender making a surprising trade. Plus, Fox Sports college football analyst joins the show live from the NFL draft in Green Bay to react to Colin's mock and explain why Shedeur Sanders fits with the SteelersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't think the NBA is going to suspend a man, Thompson. I don't. But I'm saying based on his resume, the violence of that move, Jimmy Butler's a star. Do I think they'll have a meeting today? talk about it. Yeah. You know, it is what it is. All I know is the NBA is letting guys play

and it is a huge edge to the deep Celtics, the deep thunder, the deep rockets, the deep cabs. Like Golden State without Jimmy Butler may not win another game in this series. Well, they're not come on, they're not going to get dusted without Butler. They were sub-500 without it.

Semsky was sick and he could, he was like, oh for five, couldn't do anything. They'll be fine. I don't know that they'll win the series, but yeah, I would take Rockets in seven if Butler misses a game. By the way, I'm not anti-Rockets. I took the Rockets to win the series. I'm just saying the Men Thompson's resume, his history.

He has been, you know, he grew up, legendary stories in Houston. You know, he and his dad, his brother, they'd play all day, and they were feisty and fight, and there's all these stories about a men's history. He's a tough kid. I love having guys like that. But Drayvon Green was always judged more harshly, and I think fairly based on his career resume. To your point, what if the least...

league says, hey, you see that Warriors-Lakers matchup? Boy, we'd love that. Let's sit on Ann Thompson for a game so we can get Curry-Lebron next round. Because you know the executives are dancing in the streets over these ratings so far. Wait until they get LeBron Curry in the next round. Yeah, ratings have been good. Okay, now I did a, I do two mock drafts. The first one is what I would do, which is just for fun. You can hold me accountable. The second one is, this is what I think is going to happen. So I was on the phone last night. yesterday afternoon and this morning, there was a lot of Bears rumors, but the reality is about Ashton Genty.

But again, to make a trade work, a lot of teams want things. I'm told that Jags want to go get Travis Hunter. Well, what do we get? Right? Like, what do we get for it? So there's a lot of conversations. There's a lot of calls. Very rarely do you get moves in your top 10 picks, but there's a lot of calls of it.

So here is what I'm hearing. Here is what I believe will happen. Number one, Cam Ward, this is an easy one. Good fit with Brian Calland's offense, and more than anything, he is a major talent upgrade over who the Titans played at quarterback last year. Last year, Tennessee's quarterbacks combined for 22 touchdowns and 21 picks. This is a no-brainer. Number two, most talented athlete in the draft,

I think a historically gifted athlete, Travis Hunter, goes to Cleveland. They are getting calls on Travis. Hunter and not just one. They're going to, I believe, keep him. He's a very unique, maybe not a Shohei Otani. Maybe he is, but just not a lot of guys ever like this. So he goes number two. I think the New York Giants are going to go get Abdul Carter. It is a starless draft, and he is one of the four or five stars in the draft. Listen, they've already got a very good defensive line. But what a lot of teams do, best player available. And there's no question at this point, he's the best player available. Patriots go offensive tackle, Will Campbell, LSU. Reality is they

have the worst O line in the league. They can get running backs, tight ends, and wide receivers elsewhere. There's only four or five O tackles that people really, really like, maybe fewer than that. Will Campbell, you got Drake May. Now you got to protect him. Number five, the Jaguars go for one of the cleaner players in the draft, Mason Graham. They could not stop the run last year. And by the way, they've got Trayvon Walker and Josh Heinz Allen. So he's a nice combo in there and their defensive line will be set for years. So I think Mason Graham's a play that I love Mason Graham and a lot of it is I watch so much Michigan football and Big Ten football. Every game I watched, he won the battle against any offensive line in he faced. Number six, the Raiders,

I believe they're going to get Ashton Genty. Listen, they need a receiver and they need a running back. And Pete Carroll is old school. He likes to create a run game. He had his most success with Marshawn Lynch and the pros and Reggie Bush and Lendale White in college. They need him. I think this is a really unique running back first round talent.

Number seven, the Jets go for Tyler Warren. Listen, I know they have a defensive coach. They don't have enough of weapons. So Garrett Wilson needs some protection. I saw Warren play at USC and catch 17 balls. He's not Brock Bowers, but he's got so much dexterity and so much versatility. I don't think the Jets can pass on them. They're just not a very – Jets get no tight end production.

He solves it for the next five years. Number six, the Panthers. Jalon Walker – I mean, again, it's another Georgia pass rusher. He was like a five-star recruit. Hype, hype, hype, hype, hype. Sometimes he lives up to it. Sometimes he does not. But again, in a super starless draft, he's a good pass rusher from Georgia.

They generally work out okay. And number nine, the Saints, they could use offensive line help. I think they go with Mikel Williams from Georgia again. They didn't have a good defense last year. They got to rebuild their offensive line. But this feels like best player available. And again, these Georgia guys, it doesn't matter if they underachieve a little or they got some character stuff. They come into the NFL and they can play. And so that's where I think he goes.

Number 10, the Bears, they would love a star running back. I think the Bears are going to get Will Johnson the corner. Listen, they got Jalen Johnson on one side. This is a team that's spent a ton of money on offense over the last two years. They need to get cheap on defense. I think he's a very good corner. They have to upgrade their secondary. And remember, they spent money. They're spending money right now in their O line and their D line. They're spending money in the trenches. They got wide receivers. You can get a running back later. Go get the best corner. He doesn't run a four or three. He's an excellent corner in a division with smart offensive coaches. Number 11-9ers, I think they get Kelvin Banks. Left tackle, Trent Williams is 37. They lost two

offensive linemen of free agency. Aaron Banks obviously went to Green Bay. and Jalen Moore went left tackle, backup actually went to the Chiefs. So listen, if you're going to spend money on Brock Purdy, who's had a couple of injuries already, you've got to protect him. I think this, in my opinion, is the best offensive linemen in the draft. Number 12, Cowboys, Omerio Hampton. Listen, folks, they don't have enough offensive firepower. Jerry likes stars.

He wanted to draft Johnny Mansell at one point, and they talked him out of it. This kid is Joe Mixing with a better burst. Why not? I mean, again, if you're going to spend money on Dak Prescott, you've got to get them weapons, and you got one right now in CD Lamb. I think they go big, it's exciting, it's explosive, and Jerry will love the attention. I think number 13, we have our first trade up. I think the Rams trade up with Miami.

Miami moves back. The Rams trade up and get... Colston Loveland, the tight end. They tried to move up last year for Brock Bowers. It was too rich. So they're just not getting enough tight-end production. So the feeling with the Rams is they've got Devante Adams and Puka. They've got Kyron Williams, the running back.

The O line is settled. Let's go get a star tied-in for Matt Stafford this year and next, his last couple of years with the Rams. They move up, Dolphins move back. Number 14th pick. The Colts will take in their eyes the best player available. Armand Membue from Missouri, guys, a monster. The reality is outside of Quentin Nelson, nobody else played 17 games on the O-line for the Colts.

Chris Ballard will be patient. He'll let the best player fall to him. And then number 15, the Falcons take Jehad Campbell. Now, the Falcons, the last four draft, they've gone offense in the first round. That's why their defense is not very good. So Michael Pennix is fine. The O-line's fine. They got Kyle Pitts.

They got Drake London. Bejohn Robinson. Their offense is fine. They need to be faster and more athletic on defense. And Campbell, Campbell's an underrated player. Most Bama players are not underrated. Guys, an unbelievable freak athlete, best linebacker in the draft, probably. So this is what I think will happen.

This isn't what I would do. This is what I believe will happen. I do think the Rams will move up. I think they'll wait as long as they can, but I think the Colts would take Colston Loveland if he was available, and the Rams know that. So they're going to jump the Colts at the last second to get a tight end, who, by the way, everybody loves. If he was available, I can tell you, the Broncos would look at him, the Chargers would look at him, and the Rams would take him.

So I do think, and the Rams don't have a lot of need. They need at some point an offensive tackle, a corner, a tight end, and maybe an inside lineback. All right, Joel Clat is in Green Bay. How exciting. How fun. Nicest people in the world are in Buffalo and Green Bay. Nicest people you'll ever meet her there. Okay.

So, you know, everybody's saying it's not a good enough draft to move up. But I tend to believe that these offensive coaches, when they see a unique piece, like a Colston Loveland, they're like, oh, that work. Now, a defensive coach, maybe not, but you did a ton of Colston Loveland games. What did you see? I love Colston Loveland. I have him as my top tight end in the draft. And here's the reason.

I really like Tyler Warren as well, but they're different types of players. You know, Warren exploits space that is created through scheme, and he does it incredibly well. He's a creative player, but Lovelin creates his own space. And that's difficult to do. And by the way, he produced with subpar quarterback play this last year before getting hurt at Michigan. You know, you look at the way that he runs routes from split out, from in line, all over the place. And he wins. And by the way, there's this misnomer that Tyler Warren is somehow way bigger than Colston Loveland.

They're basically the exact same size. I think Loveland might be like five pounds lighter, but they're the same height. I love Loveland's ability to get open. And to me, at the next level, in particular in the red zone and on third down from a tight-in perspective, can you create your own space and win? And Loveland can do that. Okay, so there's another player that you saw a ton of in the Big Ten, Amika Buka, the wide receiver.

He's not a burner. But I went to dinner with an offensive coordinator this past weekend. They're not going to draft him because of need. They loved him. He said, total pro starts day one. So again, this is a guy. that when you looked at a lot of mock drafts, he was top of the second round. I'm sorry, but I have yet to talk to any source who didn't love him.

Character, toughness. You did a ton of Buckeye games. What is he? What do you see? He's my favorite player in the draft because of all the things that you just talked about. He's one of the greatest young men that I've covered just as a person. But he's also incredibly polished as a wide receiver. And this is what you also have to realize is that you've got to project.

from college systems into the NFL. And what position group in college football has been more dynamic and more can't miss than Ohio statewide receivers in the last five or six years, Colin? It's the best position group in college football in terms of projecting to the National Football League. And Emeka, Abuka is a great player. He can play in the slot. He's explosive. He runs clean routes.

He is a great locker room guy. He catches everything. And here's one of the things and something that I'll share tonight when we get on the air. This will just tell you everything about his character and what they believe in at Ohio State in that position room with Brian Hartline as their coach. Jeremiah Smith was going to come in as a true freshman, and Emeka Abuka stayed back, and he wanted to play an extra year, not just for himself and to win a championship and so on and so forth, but he wanted to make sure that Jeremiah Smith had a connection to the lineage of the brotherhood

of all the guys that are going to the National Football League. So that you can say that, yeah, it starts, you know, all the way back, Terry McLaurin and Paris Campbell, and then Chris Olavay, and then Garrett Wilson and Jackson Smith and Jigpa, and then Marvin Harrison and Emeka, Abuka, and Jeremiah Smith. He understood the links in that chain and wanted to stay back and mentor Jeremiah Smith, who might be better than all of them here in a couple of years, and that's one of the reasons he stayed back in Columbus. So, you know, I've said this before.

Reno and Aaron Rogers famously dropped in the draft, and they got Green Bay and Don Shula. With NIL money now, it doesn't bother me at all. If I had a son, and you told me, Cleveland, the Giants or the Steelers, I'd say, drop in the draft and go to Pittsburgh. I don't love what they're doing, but they're really well run. They draft and develop players. So if Shadur is dropping, he's not going to be a savior in Pittsburgh. They're just looking for a starting quarterback. The Giants in Cleveland are looking for somebody to get him out of messes. What do you make of the reports that he's dropping? They're true, first of all.

I think it's 50-50 that Pittsburgh takes him. I know that their visit went really well. And there's also this, I won't call it an issue, but there's this point that no one is making. Everyone's just talking about from the NFL perspective and the decision makers perspective. I will say this. Remember, Chodor has only played for his dad, his whole life, Colin. I think sometimes we forget that.

Like, little league on. The only head coach he's known is Coach Prime. And so I think that there is some thought in the Sanders camp that it's not only about the organizational, fit, but the head coaching fit. And I know that they would love to play for Mike Tomlin. So, you know, however that happens, I think that that's probably the place that Choudoir would like to end up for all of the reasons you were talking about. And this idea of the alpha head coach who's hyper-confident and very successful runs a clean program, I think that that's attractive for the Sanders camp as well.

And that's something that not a lot of people have talked about. So I had a general manager tell me it's a starless draft and Abdul Carter's a star. Somebody's going to take him high. You did Micah Parsons games at Penn State. You did Abdul Carter games. Is he in that class? Is he as good as Micah? I think he can be.

Because think about it, Micah, you know, Micah is dynamic and he's creative and he can play everywhere. I think as an off-the-ball linebacker, you can make an argument, Micah is the better player. But I think as a pure edge rusher, I think Abdul Carter is better. I think he's a touch longer and a little bit more explosive in terms of his get-off and pass-rushing acumen. So as creative as Dallas can be with Micah Parsons, as good as he is, there's this, in my mind, I think that as a pass-rusher and a disruptive force behind the line of scrimmage, that Abdul-Carter could maybe even be better than what Micah has been in the National Football League. And listen, that's high price, obviously, because I hold Micah as maybe the best defender

in the sport right now. But Abdul Carter has that ability. And I would just remind people, he's only played edge rusher for one season. Last year was the first time that he moved down and played edge kind of full time. And they moved him around a little bit. But you looked at him getting better and better and better all year. and then with one arm against Notre Dame in that CFP game, he had seven pressures and was a game record against Notre Dame.

To me, like this guy's a no-brainer. I think that he makes your team better. And I would be shocked if New York doesn't select him at three. So I was saying earlier, it's Georgia players, even if they have character issues, even if they've underachieved a little, the bottom line is they get to the pros and they deliver. Ohio State's got some of that.

where Ohio State guys practice against Ohio State guys, and you know if you draft a corner from Ohio State, he has been covering in practice for three years, first round receivers. So I do look at these Georgia players, some of which have underachieved a little. Do you think teams think about that and go, he's a Buckeye.

He competes against world-class. I look at Ohio State and Georgia players. I did this with Sabin and Bama. I'd be like, well, if Nick trusts him, you know, I mean, do you think teams think about that with like a Georgia or Ohio State? I think that teams are seeing some of these players, and gosh, I'm blanking names off the top of my head, but you're seeing some players right now in the league, you know, go double-digit sacks every single year that didn't have much production in their college career.

And so when you look at defensive linemen and particular edge rushers in this draft, you've got a lot of guys that you can put into two camps, traits, measurables, you know, potential, or. production at the college level. So you've got the Mike Greens or the Donovan Ezerakus, who had 17, 16 and a halfs last year, led the country, led the Power 4 and you've got that camp. Or you've got the Shamar stewards and some of these other guys that may be underperformed

on the stat sheet, but have the traits that would suggest that they can come in and be explosive in the National Football League. I think that the trend is towards traits because you're seeing players, who's the guy, gosh, he was selected number one overall. Trayvon Walker, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he did not have much.

He didn't start even much at Georgia. And now he's becoming a guy that has, I think, 10 and a half sacks last year. Yeah. I'm hearing a lot of that out of NFL decision makers. But one thing that I would just throw in there, I know it's not specific to this question, Colin. But I think it's an interesting overarching theme that now we're going to have to deal with when we're talking about the transactional nature of college football.

I'm hearing more and more and more of the question marks from these GMs and coaches around the league of, does this guy love football? And it just strikes me that as college football becomes more transactional around Transfer Portal and NIL, we're teaching kids that the biggest issue or thing that they should be concerned about is their brand and how much money they're making. So then a lot of them make a lot of money in college football. And then they sit in these meetings in the draft process with these assistant coaches that they make 10 times more money then. And they're like, I don't like, who are you? And so there's been more of that going on this year of, hey, this was a bad meeting, this or that.

And it's like, hey, there's a lot of bitter assistant coaches in the National Football League that have not made a ton of money and they have not moved up the ladder. and then these kids walk in and they don't kiss their butts. And so then they run around to the next guy that'll write an article for him and they start talking about how this kid's interviews were terrible. There's a lot of that going on. It's a different nature of the draft process, I think, this year than any other year that I've covered. Okay, finally, I watched Cam Ward at Washington State.

I thought he was really talented. I didn't think first overall pick in the draft. I watched him at Miami. I thought, oh, he's really talented. I don't really think he's the number one pick in the draft. and now he is. So is this a matter of he plays the position and the team drafting really needs him.

When you watched him in college, when did you ever think, wow, he could be a number one pick? I thought that with Caleb, four games into USC. I thought it with Jaden Daniels. At LSU, I'm like, this kid put on weight from ASU.

That kid's a baller. I never looked at Cam as a number one pick. Is this just position and need? Did you see him in college? as a dominant player? Well, let's refram it because we're not grading on a scale of 100 to be the number one overall pick. We're not rating him to be the number one overall pick.

We are rating him on a scale, you know, like this on a curve, excuse me. And the curve is, what else is available? If you're in Tennessee, you have to select the best available quarterback, period. Cam Ward is the best available quarterback this year. I happen to believe it's a bad year to be in that position for Tennessee. If you're looking at the 12 guys that were selected in the top, or excuse me, the six guys that were selected in the first 12 picks a year ago, I think Cam would maybe be fifth or sixth in that class,

probably outside of the top six. And yet this year he's going to be number one. That's not a knock against Cam. That's just, that's the year in which he's coming. out. He's got great confidence, great arm strength, a quick release. He can threaten every blade of grass out there. But there's no doubt he's going to have to grow and develop at the next level. And I think that he can. I really do. But it's a curve. It's not a scale to 100. It's a curve. And he's got the right year to be at the top of the curve. Yeah, he's got the right year.

That's absolutely. Joel Kla. Real quick, I know you put up your mock draft. Let me just tell you. Okay. Genties going five, Jacksonville. Okay, so switch that. Mimbu does not get past the bears. There's no chance. Mimbu is going to be a top 10 pick. Will Johnson is sliding along with Jihad Campbell

because of injury issues and medicals. And if the Rams are trading, it would be for Amari on Hampton. And if there's a trade for Lovland, it's likely to be Denver. So watch out for that. Yours is really good, really good. You're on the same track as most people.

It's a very good inform. But watch out for Mimbu in the top 10. So Will Johnson? So the Bears would go offense again. They've done a lot of offensive line. I think offensive line. What about the Niners in Kelvin Banks? They need offensive linemen.

Yeah, they do, but they need everything. Remember, like they're decimated from free agents. so they need to rebuild their roster overall. So I believe that they're going to just take the best overall player that they see on the board. If the Rams like Hampton, is that acknowledging that Blake Corum was a miss? That's a good thought. That's a possibility. There's no doubt it's also an acknowledgement that Hampton is a pretty dynamic player,

both catching it and running it. So I think that Sean really likes him. I don't know if they're going to trade because they also love Colston Loveland and they also love a Mecca Abuka. So in my mind, I think they would be happy with any of those three and they feel like they could probably stand Pat and get one of those three. They're hoping Omarion drops to them. I don't think that they would release capital to go get him, knowing that they love Colston

Loveland as well as a Mecca Abuka. This is so much fun. Joel Clatt, good seeing you, buddy. Good to see you, too, bud. All right, Green Bay, Joel Clatt, all over it tonight in the heartland of not only the country, but the NFL. Hey, did you see Daniel Jeremiah did not have Will Johnson in the first round of his final mock draft that he dropped last night. So something weird is going on with Will Johnson. I think he's a top 15 player.

He's really good. But the health stuff that Clatt talked about, coupled with Jeremiah, not having him in his final mock draft first round, a little surprising. He's the best corner in the draft. Best pure corner. Like, he's amazing. I don't know what's going on. Wow, that's drunk. That'd be shocked.

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So it looks like the Rams and the Broncos both are considering a move up to get a special offensive piece. You're hearing the T-Mack, the receiver from Arizona and Will Johnson the corner from Michigan, who I love, is moving down. I still think Mason Graham is the cleanest prospect and the whole thing. Not spectacular, but every time I watched him, he was great. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

All right, let's go back to the draft, Colin. It's tonight from Green Bay, and everybody wants to know where Shedur Sanders will land. Well, Dion had an interesting take comparing his son's pre-draft criticism to that of Lamar Jackson, saying, we still see some bold junk every year, but Lamar was probably the most recent.

That was just ridiculous, insulting. But God was in that to get him where he needed to go, the city of Baltimore. Now, if you remember, I wasn't, obviously, obviously on the show when this happened, but Lamar, by some pundits, was being told he needs to change positions. Remember that? A famous guy who was, I think, in the Colts front office, and then he got shoved off the network right after saying this nonsense.

I mean, Lamar's won two MVPs. Are people being too critical of Shador? I don't know that he's going to win two MVPs, but... Yeah, I mean, I didn't agree with that Lamar take. It was terrible, uninformed. But, I mean, Lamar was a spectacular athlete. Shador's not. And also, there are times like the Lamar draft was a very good quarterback draft and a very good overall draft.

So I do think, like, if Cam Ward was in last year's draft, I think Cam Ward is a second round quarterback. I really do. I don't think, I think there were so many quarterback. I mean, I like Michael Pennix as a prospect more than Cam Ward. Now, Pennix is not that athletic. But this week, Lance Zerline said Cam Ward's Bow Nix. Now, I like Bo Nix, but I like Bo Nix. But I like Bo Nix with Sean Pate.

He's better than Bow Nix. Well, you're right. With Sean Payton. To go back to Lamar, I'm fairly certain. I tried to check this up. That was the draft where Josh Rosen went to the Cardinals at like 10. Now, I don't know if you're, was that your guy, Kime doing that? Taking Josh Rosen.

And next year that took Tyler. Yeah, Josh Rosen basically is delivering your Uber Eats now. And Lamar's got two MVPs and Josh Rosen went 10th. And Lamar went 30 seconds. Like nobody knows what they're doing in quarterback. Well, I think people can. bought talent, but I think what we don't consider enough with quarterback is, and people don't like to look in the mirror, is your organization capable of developing this young quarterback?

Baltimore is. I mean, look at where the quarterbacks flourish. Baltimore, well-run. Kansas City, historically well-run. Green Bay, well-run. Isn't it funny, those organizations always get quarterback right? Because the kid, as he stumbles early, no, it's like having great parents. I mean, and then look at the places where quarterbacks go to die.

The Jets. Carolina. So it's not Chicago. So, you know, we always look at, nobody knows how to draft quarterbacks. Look at the places that regularly hit on quarterbacks. They're better owned and better on. Sometimes you get lucky. Buffalo post-Jim Kelly.

Do you remember what those 20 years were like? Remember. Tyrod Taylor got to the playoffs. Oh, stop. When they got. Bean and they got McDermott. They were at least a high-functioning organization. Plus, they got Terry Picoula, the owner.

Yeah. So you didn't love them, but they had owner, GM, and coach in place. They made the playoffs with Tyrault. I understand. So Washington made it with QB1, Matt Saracen from Friday Night Lights, basically. Taylor Heineke. Like, come on. Like, things happen that are weird.

I'm just saying, I don't know if Shadour going to Pittsburgh is the best landing spot. Honestly, no, if I was Shadour, there's other places. Yeah. I would go to Minnesota. Right. But if you're giving me Giants or Pittsburgh, I'd take Pittsburgh. How long is Daibol going to be there? Because I like

Daibol. I mean, listen, we could say Josh Allen's the MVP. He didn't thrive until Daibal kind of got coached him up in Buffalo, right? Right. All right. Next story, oh, geez, we got to talk about this guy again. Patrick Mahomes, your favorite quarterback in the league.

The Chiefs, you know, listen, they got, how many different adjectives could I use to describe what happened in the Super Bowl. I got their teeth kicked in. It was bad. It is funny when you think about this. The last two Super Bowl blowouts was Mahomes losing. Oh, that's good. I mean, seriously, we've had a bunch of good Super Bowls.

The last two bad ones, Mahom's got crushed. So what does it tell you? Why did he get crushed? They had a left tackle issue, both Super Bowls. It doesn't matter who you are. Well, wait, the left tackle was working great with Tooney until the Super Bowl when the Eagles were like, You got no chance against us.

Anyways, Mahomes is now talking about getting back Rishie Rice and Hollywood Brown, and they want to attack the aerial attack the way they used to in the past. Everything looks great right now. I mean, getting the guys back healthy as far as Rishi and having Hollywood fully healthy and Xavier in year two, I think the offense has a chance to be really, really good. It's just about keeping building. I'm excited to kind of have these guys again. end. We've had a lot of turnover in the receiving room, and it seems like the core group will be back in its entirety.

So the goal is to try to build on it and get even better and try to get back to some of the explosive passing plays that we've done in years past. I like that video. You see the regulation-sized pool table in the background? With the red felt? That's impressive. With the Chiefs Red? Yeah. Listen, well, I like Mahomes. You weren't here, but I said the Chiefs would not make the playoffs. No, I don't think that's a crazy take. I don't. It's obviously not a crazy take. It's a great take.

That being said, she's fans right rate. And if you look at the roster, Colin, I don't see how they go back to the deep passing game when the offensive line's not better. And the receivers, we don't know. He's talking about Hollywood Brown. Like, do we know if he's good?

Well, no, he's not great. Okay. Rishi Rice. I like him a lot. One good season. And then, I mean, he's had, hasn't he more had more police encounters and touchdowns in the last year? It is now the best division.

in football and they won 11 and 0 and 1 score games. There's no question. They're not going to equal last year's record. They're not. Not even sniff it. If you don't have a top 8 to 10 offensive line, you're not going to go on long winning streets. So Joe Tooney worked in the regular season.

He got to a Super Bowl. It didn't work. Yeah. So they, and they got worse on the O line. They lost Tuni, who was their best O-Lignment, and the guy, they went and got a backup in San Francisco to be a left tackle. He's unproven. I mean, you know. I don't know what Chiefs fans are excited about.

If you want to tell me, we got Mahomes and Reid, great. What else you got? What else do they have, Colin? Well, Chris Jones pretty good. One more year, Travis Kelsey. I think their defense. How good was Travis Kelsey in the Super Bowl? Do you remember the stats?

How did he do against... He's a pretty good player. Buffalo? Well, how was that? I'm going to go with he's a pretty good player. Yeah, he's had a great career. Final story, Colin, back to the NBA. Celtics went up 2-0 last night, did not cover against the magic, but got the dub.

Now, Chris Tapp's Porzingis. Ooh, look at that shot. Yeah, that was a lot. brutal. That light looks like you in one of your bar room brawls that you got into. Look at that. I mean, kind of of a dirty elbow. Anyways, he needed five stitches to close the bleeding, but

Joe Missoula, who says some wacky stuff, he loved it. His overall just approach, I think he has an innate ability to take things very serious and at the same time, you know, have great perspective. And, you know, you see how he, I think he can control his environment really well with how

he handles the crowd and how he handles the physicality of it. And he can maintain his kind of his poise. And he just has a great way about him. And I think that that helps us. And like, yeah, I do. I love watching him. I like watching him lead on the court. I think it's important. Yeah. Mazzula's very much a UFC tough guy. He likes all that training and Navy SEAL stuff. So he likes his teams not to be cute. I like the Navy SEAL stuff. By the way, I've talked with some dads. You know how down in San Diego they have that like you could do the Navy SEAL training? Yeah, no thanks. Do you, any interest in joining us?

We got a group. They're going to do it. No, no. It's just like a fun, cool thing where you're clearing rooms. I'll go to Old Navy and get some mackies. You go to, you go train with Navy SEAL. You don't think that would be fun? You got one life, buddy.

Come on. We got a few more years where you could do Navy SEAL. I don't want to be submerged in a tank fighting for my life. Sorry. Call me nutty. What is this, an officer to gentlemen? Come on. Doesn't sound fun to me.

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running backs in the first round. A good running back touches the ball 20 times a game. How much is a good defensive tackle touch it. I mean, again, I like Mason Graham. Ashton Genty is going to average 100 yards a game, very possibly, if he goes to Jacksonville at 5 or Raiders at 6. I mean, that 100 yards, what a team's average every week in offense, 450 yards or something? He gets a quarter of them, just one guy. Like, I don't care that he's a running back.

If a guy's great, he's great. It's a starless draft. He's a star. You can't draft a kick. Well, Belichickett. Ended up drafting a kicker that was a all-time great kicker. Kickers are often your leading scores. You can't draft a leading score in every other sport. Baseball, hockey, basketball, international soccer. Wouldn't you draft a leading score? So I just don't, I don't buy into rules. We can't do this and you can't do that.

Half the companies that are in this country, I mean, remember the old saying, you do not get into a car with a stranger. It's called Uber. It's a thriving billion-dollar business. So I, you know, my take is you can do whatever feels right. I would never draft a kicker in the first round, but Sean McVeigh knows what he's doing. They drafted a kicker, I think at a Stanford last year, good kicker. Now, the Niners reached on a kicker doesn't necessarily look like a good move. They probably drafted him higher than I would. But I, you know, I mean, the only thing that appears to be true that in the history of the NFL draft, almost every great left tackle is a first round pick. And the reason for that is God only creates so many six, seven men with good feet.

Six, seven, three hundred twenty pound men with good feet. It's the George Young theory, who's an old, now has passed along. He was a general manager of the New York Giants. And he used to call it the planet theory, which is the planet only. only gives you one or two six-foot-six men that are over 300 pounds a year with really good feet. You know, it's like in the NBA, how many seven feet men can run the floor, dribble? That's why Wembe and Kevin Duran are so exceptional. They're just not a lot of guys that size that can do that. And so outside of that, where most of your great left tackles historically are first-round picks,

just because of scarcity of that size and that fluidity and nimbleness for that position. but we got Tom Brady going in the sixth and Brock Purdy in the seventh and Mark Brunel in the fifth and Joe Montana in the third or fourth and DAC in the four the quarterbacks come from all places but I have no problem drafting and running I was a big believer in Bejan Robinson for Atlanta I don't think they've used him enough that used to me don't draft a tight end early I don't know I watch Brock Bowers now Kyle Pitts has been disappointing Brock Bowers is unguardable uncoverable so I'm I'm just for what's the best player in the the first 20 picks of the draft, what's the best player of it? After that, you can reach a little bit

if you have a need in the third round and you need a tight end badly. And, you know, he's not one of the top five or six players you have in that space, but he's eighth or ninth. I'd reach seven or eight, nine picks. If I absolutely needed something, when I go to the grocery store, I go buy what I need, not what the best value is. A draft is a little bit like a grocery store. Like you have certain needs, you either have to get them through free agency. And if you don't, you have to get them through the draft. And sometimes it doesn't line up and you have to reach for a guy. So that's a great point about value. There's this idea in the draft about surplus value. What are the most expensive positions to pay in the NFL? Quarterback, edge rusher, left tackle, and increasingly

wide receiver. Right? So if you can draft one of those at the top in the top 10, you have huge value. Travis Hunter is going to be one of the lowest paid receivers in the league because he's on his rookie deal, but he's got huge value because he's a star. So the idea is running backs, they don't have a ton of value, right? I know Sequin can be added to a contender, but drafting a running back high doesn't make a ton of sense because if you're building something, Colin, like, you're going to drive him into the ground on his first deal and then you move on. Like, that's why Gentie at five doesn't make as much sense as, say, a left tackle or an edge rusher. But Jacksonville has two edge rushers. They have their quarterback. So are they ready for a

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