The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Colin's top 10 QBs

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Colin gives his list of the 10 quarterbacks in the NFL that deserve to be the highest paid in the league The top 100 players in the NFL according to player vote   Guest: Joel KlattSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A lot to talk about Big Ten predictions coming down. NFL camps opening up. J. Mac, Joel Klatt's going to be joining us in five minutes to talk about that big 10 stuff. J. Mack. I loved having Paul Pierce on, by the way. He really, really made a smart comment. Basically, the three people playing really well in the Olympics for us are LeBron,

AD, and Bam because they're allowed to play the exact same way they play with their teams. Everybody else is asked to do a different thing, and they're all kind of struggling. LeBron has the ball in L.A. AD is the power player down low, and BAM defends, rebounds, scores, you know, his own way. You don't have to design play. Everybody else on the team, you're having to design new roles for them. And Paul just, I haven't heard anybody say that.

Perfect. The three guys playing well, playing great, are allowed to just do what they do during the regular season and playoffs of the NBA. The only thing he missed was the three-point shooting of opponents. I mean, Germany shot over half their shots were three. That's the recipe for me to the U.S. I also think Steve Kerr is an offensive coach, and I do think all the defensive. defensive stuff will come in time.

But to ask a bunch of old veteran players, hey, here comes Germany and South Sudan. You're a 41 point favorite. Lock them down defensively. It's easier to get older players to buy into your offensive stuff than your defensive stuff. Okay, so we got into this discussion yesterday. And I've said this before. Timing and talent have a lot to do with how quarterbacks get paid.

At any point, based on when you signed your contract, a Patrick Mahomes can be the sixth highest paid quarterback and Kirk Cousins can be the highest. But if I was a general manager or you were and we paid quarterbacks on what they should make in terms of winning, production, health, the ability to elevate others, I made a list yesterday. And I think it comes into three tiers. This is how I think the quarterback should be paid in order based on four or five factors. A big one is health. You got to be available.

A second one is, you know, winning, and a lot of that's regular season. Are you productive consistently? And the other thing is, do you elevate others? If others elevate you, you don't make my list. A lot of quarterbacks, I would say Brock Purdy, is elevated by the coach and the roster. There's no proof he's elevated. Garoppolo got to a Super Bowl and lost. That Brock Purdy to this point hasn't done anything.

Garoppolo didn't do. Do you elevate your franchise, your coach, your team, your receivers? That's what we saw C.J. Stroud do. We're like, wow, he's elevating others. My argument, though, has been DAC is elevated by others. The more DAC reliant the Cowboys have become, the more he throws 40 times or more, they have a bad record. So this is, do you elevate others? Are you productive? Do you win? Are you healthy? And here's the order I would pay quarterbacks. It's not the 10 best. It is how I would pay them based on my ramifications. Number one would be Patrick Mahomes. Four Super Bowls in five years. He just won a Super Bowl back to back where his leading receivers were Rishi Rice and Juju Smith-Schuster. He is, without

question, the best and should be highest-paid quarterback in the league. Number two, somebody who hasn't missed a game since his rookie season, Josh Allen. Fifty-one total touchdowns last year led the NFL. Ten more than any other quarterback. Ten more. Number three, and this is the next four. I believe the first two are in a different level. The next four are quarterbacks I like, but they have a flaw. Lamar Jackson, I worry that he can't win in the postseason, but I would make him number three. He has the second highest winning percentage in this league behind only Mahomes, and he is without question, the best dual threat quarterback in league history. Number four, I worry about his age, but Matt Stafford maybe has the second best arm in the league. He is

probably in terms of ability, two-minute drill to run an offense as good as anybody, including Brady, maybe with the exception of Brady, a great two-minute quarterback, great arm, silly arm talent, excellent leader, academic at the line of scrimmage, but the ability to add lib in the touchdown. Number five, big concerns about his health, Joe Burrow. Highest completion percentage in league history. Offensive line and injury histories worry me, but I feel like he is the one quarterback in the league that can go toe to toe to.

with Mahomes and equal him in accuracy and efficiency. Health the big concern. And finally, Jared Goff doesn't miss games. Oh, by the way, led the NFL last year in passing yards, including the playoffs, 5,400. He led the sad sack Detroit Lions to their first NFC championship in 33 years. But he's not mobile, strictly a pocket quarterback. The final four would be in my third category, rising stars. Not everything's perfect yet.

I think we'll have answers and results after this year. Number one, Justin Herbert, first quarterback in league history to begin his career, without much support on the O line with three straight, 4,000-yard passing seasons. Number eight, C.J. Stroud. I know it's one year. The kid's accuracy, poise, and ball placement is, insane. First player in league history, with over 4,000 yards passing and a passerating over 100 as a rookie. I don't think he's got a lot of mobility. His comp was always goff, but he's got

more than Jared. The kid had a remarkable rookie year. Next up, Jordan Love, week 10 on, behind a young old line and the youngest group of receivers and tight ends was the best statistical quarterback in the league. I know it's only been eight weeks, but what I saw in those eight weeks was a guy that walked into Dallas and was significantly more accurate, more athletic, and more poised than Dak Prescott. He's number nine. And ten, I worry about the turnovers, but he was the best high school and college

quarterback, and he got this team of playoff win throughout dysfunction, Trevor Lawrence. Three different head coaches already with the Jaguars. A bit of a mess. Back-to-back 4,000-yard passing seasons. This is his best roster yet. Tall, good arm, mobility, Trevor Lawrence at 10. So these, if I was GM, this is the order in which these would be the 10 highest paid players. Mahomes and Alan are superstar.

Lamar Stafford Borough Gough, great quarterbacks with a concern or a flaw. And Tier 3, Herbert Stroud, Love and Lawrence, rising stars, who I think by the end of this season, there will be no argument they should be top 10 in compensation. Jalen Hertz for the record was number 11, but he's had one great year with a coordinator who's now a head coach, Dak I had at 12. 12. McIntyre, that's a grimace. Yeah. Jalen Hertz has to be on this list, Colin.

He was 11. Burdell at 5 is a little reactionary to a couple of injuries. A couple? A four straight? Couple? Jared Goff ahead of Jalen Hertz. That's insanity. That to me is just crazy. Well, Jared Goff, and health is one of my four components,

from college to pro, starts every week. He's a little like Eli. It's not always pretty. He's always there on Sunday. Come from behind wins, accuracy, yardage, production, always healthy. The most undervalued quarterback in the league, Jared Goff. For the record, Detroit got better when Stafford left. And I have Stafford above him because I think he's out all-world arm talent.

Well, their roster got better. Ben Johnson turned into an amazing office opponent. Just throwing it out there. Joel Clat. Big noon conversations. Dan Lending, Oregon. Dan Langing, Oregon's the next one. All right, so now here we are.

We're getting to the point now where people are giving us their predictions for the Big Ten. So I think the predictions have been pretty accurate. Ohio State's favorite Oregon second. I think by a stretch of the best teams. I think Penn State's got a good coach and an excellent young quarterback, so I think they should be third. USC is about fifth or sixth with Iowa. So I want to start with this.

I think USC, you can say what you want about Lincoln Riley, but in two years, they're averaging 40 points a game, and he took over a roster, as you know, that was a mess. I kind of think the schedule goes in their favor. I think if there's a dark horse in the conference, I kind of think it's SC. Am I being a homer? It feels like they could win eight or nine games. They don't pay Oregon. They don't play Ohio State. UCLA and Michigan are in rebuilds.

Am I nuts on that? Yeah. I don't think that you're nuts. I think that USC could be a sleeper team. I think it all hinges on that game against LSU, to be honest, in Vegas. That game is so important for Lincoln Riley because right now it seems like with the USC faithful, there's a bit of a wait and see. Let's wait and see how he's going to do without Caleb Williams.

And yet from within the program, I do know that there is a sentiment that they feel like they can get back to basics, get back to fundamentals, and maybe not be better at the quarterback position, but certainly be more predictable at the quarterback position. I think Miller Moss will give them that ability. He's a really smart player. And he's more in line with what Lincoln Riley won with at Oklahoma, in particular in his first couple of years there with Baker Mayfield. And so to think that this team is going to take a step back offensively would be naive. They will not. Lincoln Riley will not take a step back. offensively. So the question for me is more about the defensive side. They were abysmal last year,

and a terrible defense. Now DeAnne comes over from UCLA, and by all accounts, I think that this is a great hire, and if they are just better on the defensive side, they don't have to be great, they don't even really have to be good. They just have to be better than what they were. Then this is certainly a team that if they were to beat LSU could certainly be sitting there in November with the schedule that they have in front of them, competing for a playoff spot. I don't think that's out of the question. Listen, it's going to rankle Big Ten fans

if one of those finesse PAC-12 team comes into the conference and win, but Oregon gets to host Ohio State. Listen, their NIL is next level. It's Texas level. They have gone out. There's nothing illegal and bought some really good recruits.

I think Oregon's stacked. I don't know what they'll be quite at quarterback. Could Oregon win the big 10. I think that, you know, they get Ohio State at home. It wouldn't shock me. What do you make? It certainly could. I do think it wouldn't shock me. It wouldn't surprise me. This is easily one of the top four rosters in all of college football easily. And you can call them a finesse pack 12 team. They're anything but that. They are really good up front. In fact, when you look at the blue chip ratio that they've signed from high school alone on the defensive front seven,

it's remarkable. They've got 11 guys in the two deep. They're blue-chip recruits up front on the defensive side. They're going to be fast. They will be physical. And this is an offense that I think could have one of the best, if not the best wide receiver rooms in the country. So if you put a guy like Dylan Gabriel, and you might think that there's question marks about that. But I actually believe he is the perfect type of quarterback for what Oregon

and their offensive coordinator, Will Stein wants to do. Will Stein, trust me, I know this. He cut his teeth as a coach. played for my offensive coordinator, and he will do better with a point guard out there. That was kind of the Bo-Nicks mold, and I think Dylan Gabriel fits in that. I think Gabriel was actually miscast at Oklahoma. I think he's going to be a better player at Oregon. Here's the reason why.

If you look at what Oklahoma had on their roster last year and what they tried to do offensively, it was push the ball down the field because of the length and speed of their wide receivers, that wasn't Dylan Gabriel. He's more of a point guard that wants to get the ball out of. his hands quickly. I think he takes a step up. I think he's a Heisman contender, and it won't surprise me at all if Oregon is able to win the Big Ten. This is the top four team in college football, and they've got national championship aspirations. So we go to a 12-team playoff, and I think one of the schools that benefits from this is Penn State, because Penn State is going

to pass the eye test. James Franklin, they've got some elite players, they have an excellent young quarterback, and when you get down to selecting the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th playoff teams, I candy's going to matter. We're going to know who the best four teams are. We'll have a strong feeling about like 5 through 7 or 8. You're going to get down to like 9, 10, 11, 12. Who had impressive wins? Who, like on Saturday did we go, oh, oh, they could play with Texas?

I kind of think Penn State's an interesting team in the playoff format. am I wrong, works in their favor a little bit. Okay, so think of it this way too. Not just this year, but in years past, Colin, if you were to retroactively place a 12-team format over the entirety of the four-team playoff, okay, so that would be, then you have that margin of eight teams that would have made playoffs in the last few years that did not.

There was not a team hurt more by the four-team playoff than Penn State. They're the team that would have made more playoffs than any. anybody else. Wow. In terms of it's six years. Six years they would have been in the playoff because they were just outside of the top four. So you can make a strong argument that there's not a program in the country that will benefit more from the playoff going from four to 12 than Penn State. I'll take it a step further. Now they don't have divisions in the Big Ten. They were stuck in the Big Ten East having to play Michigan and Ohio State every single year. So they didn't necessarily, even in a great year, have access to a championship game.

Now you fast forward to this year, guess what happens? They don't have divisions. They miss Michigan. They miss Oregon in the regular season. They've got the best schedule set up of any team in the Big Ten. And pending what happens in that Oregon, Ohio State game, I can see a situation, or certainly a world, where Penn State would only have one loss at the end of the year and be in the Big Ten championship game. and it wouldn't be a rematch between Oregon and Ohio State.

I think that's plausible, and certainly a team that I'm bullish on, with the quarterback Drew Aller, their talent in the backfield, and now what I think is a better offensive coordinator in Kansas' offensive coordinator, Andy Kodalnicki. They call him Coach K, I think he's going to benefit them quite tremendously. One more Big Ten question is, I like Ryan Day. They are viewed, I think, fairly along with, Georgia, Texas, is the most talented

teams. Is there a flaw? I think they've been too finesse for the last several years, and I think Harbaugh illuminated that weakness. Will they, because they have a quarterback that is not viewed as a C.J. Straub-level talent. Will Ohio State

pivot back to fundamentally a little more physical offense going forward? Or is this just sort of the new blueprint? Their receiver and quarterback led? So Ohio State, if you take a look at what's going on in the last couple of years, and I think what certainly is a product of the transfer portal and NIL, is what we've seen is that the best teams in college football become very veteran.

So you've got to be veteran. You can't just be blue chip. You can't just be talented. You've got to be veteran and experience. And if you've got that combination of talent, blue chip ratio, and veteran experience, then you can consider yourself the best roster in college football, and that's what Ohio State is. I think you're accurate in saying that they lost some of the physicality

and Michigan exploited that over the last few years. This is a team that should have the best defense in all of college football, the best front four in all of college football on the defensive side, an insane secondary with Denzel Burke and Caleb Downs and Latham. These guys are incredible, and that defense is going to allow the offense to get their feet wet with a new offensive play caller and a new quarterback. Here's the thing about their quarterback,

and I think it's going to be Will Howard. Ohio State is not going to need C.J. Stroud-level quarterback play because of Chip Kelly and their backfield. They get Quinchawn Judkins from Old Miss. They get Trevionn Henderson to come back. And now with Chip Kelly, he is going to be able to run the football to the degree that I don't think any of us are expecting. I would not be surprised at all if Ohio State leads to the Big Ten in rushing.

I won't be surprised if they're in the top five in the country because that's what Chip Kelly does. He doesn't need a dominant offensive line. he will run the football and find a way to run the football efficiently. That's why the pressure is not going to be all on the shoulders of the quarterback like it has been over the last few years. This is a team that I think is absolutely the best, most talented, and most championship-ready roster in all of college football.

People say that it's Georgia, but when you look at the veteran nature of this team coming back, the guys that they were able to get back from last year to this year, and then also supplement with the transfer portal, this is the best roster in college football. Joel Klatz, so good to see you again. It's so, I mean, look at you. I can tell you've got a couple of day beard growth.

You're still not in regular season form. You're still a little. I mean, you got to. It's preseason. It's preseason. I didn't even come on out of the gate, like asking where Aaron Rogers was on your value. He immediately makes you a Super Bowl contender, but that's fine.

And like Jared Goff over Jalen Hertz, I'm probably with Jemak. That's a little bit strange right there. I don't know if I buy that too much. But, you know, otherwise, it was a cute list. You try it hard. That's why I tell my kids all the time. Like, just try your best, and you did that. Listen, you're going to go into two a days here pretty quickly.

I wouldn't get too cocky. Get all cleaned up. Joel Klatt, the voice of college football at Fox. Good seeing you, buddy. I'm so fired up. You too, buddy. Have a good day. I am so fired up for the Big Ten.

Is this incredible? You take the four most prominent. Kind of feel bad for you, That's a great program. Four of the most high-profile prominent West Coast programs. You jam it into the Big Ten. I mean, look at the coaches I got. I got Ryan Day.

I got Chip Kelly as a coordinator. I got Lincoln Riley. I got, I mean, you got James Franklin. You got big old, big old names. Oh, my God. And because of the, you have a Pacific time zone, Midwest time zone with your Michigan's, right, Ohio State. Then you got the East Time Zone like your Penn State, Maryland's.

So you can stack three to four games in a, row in different time zones. You can get, I mean, it's insane. You could get Penn State in the morning, Michigan in the afternoon, you could get an Oregon, Washington, USC at night, just one after another in the Big Ten. This, this to me is amazing about the Big Ten. They always felt like a time of the day you would watch the SEC. It's, you know, certain times of the day.

You can do 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. in the Big Ten now. Huge brands. You can go Penn State. USC at 9 a.m. in the future. And then at noon, it's Michigan and Washington. And then after that, it's Oregon at home. And after that, it's, you know, it's UCLA at home against Ohio State. I thought I heard you say 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. on a.

What, what are you going to hang with your family, get in workouts? I've already told them is that this year, dad's busy. Every Saturday for four months. Well, I just, it's, I mean, I've said this before. I am lobbying to take Fridays off of the whole staff. There's a reason. Saturday's a work day. How's that going over so far?

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Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So according to the players, this is a player's vote. This is not Uncle Colin being critical of AR. the top 100 players going into this season, according to a player's vote, Aaron Rogers voted 92 out of 100. My guess is, based on previous seasons, there will be 11, 12, maybe 13 quarterbacks drafted above Aaron Rogers. The players now see what I see, a declining player coming off a major injury.

predicting a resurgence is fool's goal. Last season, his last season in Green Bay, this apparently, like Michael Jordan's career with the Wizards, has disappeared. But this is not politics. You can't make stuff up. His last season, with the third-rated offensive line, with a sharp offensive coach in a weaker NFC, Aaron had a lower passer rating than Daniel Jones.

Those are the facts. And in his last 13 starts in Green Bay, he was 5 and 8, completing 63% of his throws. That's it. And in 562 days now, he's taken four snaps coming off a major injury. The good news, though, he's got Nat Hackett as an offensive coordinator. And a left tackle in Tyron Smith, who has not started and finished. finished a complete season in nine years. There will be, according to the players, minimum 10, perhaps closer to 12 players, ahead of Aaron Rogers in the top 100.

That is not a criticism. It is a declining off a major injury, older quarterback. J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News. All right, Colin, let's start with the mysterious Kevin Durant injury saga coming off the calf strain. There were rumors.

Rumors. He could potentially be taken off the roster due to injury, but Steve Curris come out and said they are not replacing Kevin Durant. Now, it is weird because they thought he was expecting to play in Abu Dhabi. Okay, obviously didn't play there. And then it's like, okay, he's coming to London. You see some of these warm-up videos. He's shooting. Colin, let's just remember, when he popped the Achilles, he.

against the Raptors in the final, Steve Kerr was his coach. And obviously there was a lot of beef with the Warriors he ended up leaving. I don't think Kerr wants, you know, blood on his hands again if KD were to get hurt. So we know how valuable he can be. I mean, it's the greatest USA basketball player ever.

We also know that there are decisions made on the bottom half of rosters, middle and bottom, which Katie, because of his injury history and age, he's kind of a middle and bottom player now on this. Well, I mean, he's not aunt. We don't view him as Tatum or LeBron or staff. But he fits in pretty easily.

No, he fits in easily. But I think in Olympic teams, there's a lot of decisions made and there's politics involved. Protection chemistry politics. So Team USA, 6 for 17 on threes against Germany. Okay? They could not really shoot it well against South again. Durant comes in. He's just banging threes.

It's, you know, come on. Stretch the floor. You know, I'm a KD fan. I don't want him to go out there and get hurt, but there's a word. world where they lose one of these games, okay? In Paris, I'm just telling you, they're not rolling, they're not taking photos with Team USA like the Dream Team, okay?

I would say this, don't take too much from the lousy defense early in these five exhibition games. They'll ratchet it up. Defense's work. Our guys weren't working very hard at the defensive end. And also our best defensive player, AD, comes off the bench. Our second best defensive player, arguably

BAM comes off the bench. So the defense looked great when you went to the bench, much better anyway. And KD's hurt. So I think a lot of this will get solved here when the Olympics start. You know, South Sudan is actually better than maybe people thought. You live, you learn. Katie is the greatest USA basketball player ever, according to that chart we just showed on the screen.

You think he's only a middle-of-the-tier pack guy on this team? No, I mean, look at those numbers. Like any Olympics he comes in, it's just a flamethrower. I don't see, I mean, Colin, if he's 90%... not healthy, he's like the fourth best guy on the knee. Maybe fifth. Now, I'd say about that. By the way, Anthony Edwards, a little turnover prone yesterday. A little too much one-on-one, Jason Tatum

running into the same thing. Because they just clogged the lane. No three seconds in the lane, so the defenders are just jamming it. Tatum not getting to the rim as easily. This Durant stuff's troubling. I can't wait for these games. Anyways, let's move on to the NFL. Seekwan Barkley made the move from the Giants to the Eagles this offseason.

We got a glimpse into that breakup from New York's hard knocks which has been phenomenal. And now, Seiquan is sharing how he felt during those negotiations. It kind of felt like it was like, you know, kind of a little disrespectful, to be honest, because it's kind of like a slap and face. But you go see what you are worth,

and then if you're worth that. We'll see if you're worth it and maybe we'll match it. They really weren't in play. I guess you could say come to find out, see the reality of it. When you look at Hardnacht, it's like, you make it seem like, oh, like this was like a thing that was going on every single day. But it really wasn't. Hardin did a really good job.

It looks juicy. it looks like we were like, oh, like, okay, like, there actually could have been a thing, and, like, they pulled out the last second, like, reality, like, it never, never really wasn't, you know, but the whole time, like, me and my agent talking on our side is, like, yeah, we don't think the Giants were even doing anything. You know, from time to time, a player changes team in the NFL. And, uh, we know he's a good player. No.

This is going to be one of those moves that were like six games into the season. the Giants let him go I think this is going to be the fact that he went cross town to your primary rival this is going to have it's going to have there'll be shrapnel

there's going to be people are going to lose jobs in New York over this I don't know if anyone's ever lost a job over a running back but he rushes for 1,300 yards and 9 TDs somebody will I mean this show has really done just a number on the New York Giants

they to me look like the most in-f team the league right now. Like nobody's talking about Carolina, right? The spotlight is on the Giants and how badly they butcher this. And I just have to look up some stuff from Barclay. You know, coming out of Penn State, he wasn't like just good. He was like, is this the next like Barry Sanders type player? I think the last two running backs from the Big Ten that were like, you could argue the last three running backs that entered the league with a can't miss have been Sequin, Adrian Peterson, and Zeke.

Yeah. That they were just, these guys are... Now, I think Bejohn Robinson and Atlanta is really, really good. I don't think he's that explosive. I just think he's really well-rounded. There's no flaw to his game. But I think Sequin, Zeke, and Adrian Peterson were... Oh, yeah, these will be stars if they're healthy.

Like, Christian McAfree looked really, really good coming out, but he did look like... I don't think... I mean, I love Christian McCaffrey. I don't think anybody. he thought he would be maybe the second best running back ever. You get him with Shanahan and now he's like, oh my gosh. You get Sequin with

Jalen Hertz and we'll see what Kellen Moore can scheme up. There's a world where he is McCaffrey Light. Not saying a derogatory. He could be in that McCaffrey category. If you go to the last five years, the gap between the Eagles O-line and the Giants O-line, you're

arguably have the best and the worst. I mean in the last five, six years, take the average eagle O line. It's no worse than third, arguably the best on average in the league. And the Giants has been on average, the worst in the league. So for a running back, beyond play calling, Sequin is going from, you know, the old outhouse of the penthouse. He is going from, and by the way, with a better quarterback.

So he's not, you know, it's third and three, which is second and four, which is heavy. for a running back. Sequin's going to get a significant number of carries based on deception, counters, traps, where you don't see it coming. You basically started your drives

in New York with Sequin, first two downs, and then it's Daniel thrown on third and long. So I think this is not just a, oh, he'll be good. I think you're going to look up by Thanksgiving and go, how in the world do the Giants let him go if he maintains his health?

If you need a midweek list, best skill position groupings in the league. Eagles now have Brown, Devante Smith, Jalen Hurts. Jailen Hurts, a quarterback, and then Sequin Barclay. And always good tied in. That's probably better than the 49ers. The PFF. Ayuk, Debo, McCaffrey, versus what the Eagles, 49ers. That's almost a watch.

And the Eagles O line, according to PFF this morning, is ranked second in the league behind Detroit. I mean, just ask yourself. Go look at Jared Goff, good O'Lon. to bad. He's a different quarterback. Sequin, worst Giants ranked 29. He has been in New York, basically with

almost no creases, to now the second best O-line in the league. One of the reasons the Lions went and drafted a running back member, Jemir Gibbs, and people were like, I don't know about the draft. One of the reasons it made sense is he was guaranteed to be productive because of the Lions' O-line.

It was a can't miss. I mean, when you have a great running back, with a very, very strong old line. That's like a guaranteed hit in the first round. Are we sleeping on the Eagles in the NFC? No, I haven't win in the division. Absolutely. Why not more?

Because I don't know if I trust Nick Seriani. But they're the best team in the division. That's not even... Their roster's easily the best in the division. It's not close. Just because you brought it up. Siriani or Dan Campbell. Who do you trust more?

Dan Campbell. In one game? Yes. Well, the league isn't one game. A playoff game, it is. You know, NSAe championship. Who you trust more? Rehoney or Dave Campbell, come on.

Final story is Kyler Murray, your buddy. He's been criticized in the past for not being fully committed to football, but it looks like he's changing his attitude. Interesting. Look at that. According to the athletic, members of the Arizona Cardinals coaching staff and locker room have been raving about Kyler's commitment. Commitment.

And drive. Drive. Heading into the 2024 season. Interesting. That's the Kyler Murray I know. Committed, driven. Did they take away his Xbox and PlayStation? You know what? I don't have a problem playing the little Xbox when you get home after a hot day at work.

He's not married with a bunch of kids. Do what you want to do when you get home. Is his mom still doing his laundry? Did you see the words used there? Raved about his drive and commitment. I don't know how many people on this staff I rave about their driving commitment. I mean, I like them. That's not a shot of me, obviously. Raving?

You don't rave about me? I'd use a different word. I hear, oh, damn, Calvert. All right. I hear you. I remember your two earring, your two hoop earring ear. You were raving all right. I need to show up with the double hoop earrings when the Jets are in the.

How about that? If the Jets go to the Super Bowl, I'll do a show with the double hoopings. Oh, I don't have to make a sacrifice. Yeah, okay, sure. If the Jets win the division, you got to wear a tank top. I don't look good. No, no, we agreed to that. That's on video.

I don't, that was burned. That's not available. Oh, my God. So you're welching now in bets. Okay. I don't look good in the tank. It's kind of guy you are. I don't look good in a tank tank.

J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Raving about his drive and commitment. Enough said. Fox Sports Radio and Tire Rack are giving away a set of four tires every two weeks this summer. You want to enter?

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as Aaron Judge and the Yankees take on the Red Sox or the Mariners take on the White Sox. It all begins Saturday at seven Eastern on-fonds. By the way, Paul Pierce was very smart an hour ago. I thought this was interesting. I hadn't heard anybody else stated that the three players that are playing best in the Olympics are playing the best because they're playing the same game they do in the NBA, and this is why Joel M. Bede is struggling so far. The court shrinks in the Olympics.

It's a smaller court. the three point line is smaller. You know, so everything is kind of packed in. So it looks like he's in the way. And so that's why the defense gets better when you have Bam out of Bayou out there, because he switches. And so you always see this, the U.S. team keeps making a run. Every time you put Bam and AD in, they make a run immediately.

I would start bam. I really would. I like what he brings because you don't have to go to him. He creates his own offense, officer, or, you know, AD the same thing. You know, I think it's better. Whereas for MB to be effective, you have. have to go to him. He's a score. He needs the ball. He needs to operate in space. And so if he's not doing that, then he's sort of kind of wasted out there. I thought that was a really good point.

By the way, I did this earlier, and I've said this multiple times. I love what I do for a living. But, you know, I always thought a cool thing if I didn't do this would write a screenplay. That's not going to happen. Or be a general manager in the NFL. That's not going to happen. But I said the way it works with quarterbacks is you're always trying to get team friendly deals. The only time you really get an incredibly team friendly deal in the NFL with a quarterback is if you hit a home run like C.J. Stroud and you get him for cheap on a rookie deal for four years. Other than that, you've got to pay quarterbacks. So the question is, once you got to pay them, who would you really go all in on? Give them the bag.

Again, you do the best you can to get a team friendly deal. I think there are 10 quarterbacks in this league in three categories that I would pay. This is the order in which if players were paid based on their overall value and their connection to winning health, production, and elevating others, I would make Mahomes the highest paid quarterback in the league in Josh Allen second. Josh Allen last year had 10 more touchdowns total than any quarterback in the league. He is a machine production-wise. So Mahomes and Allen to me have separated from the league.

There are four quarterbacks after that that I think can win a Super Bowl, but they've got a flaw. Lamar, Matt Stafford, Burrow, and Goff. Lamar, I worry about his postseason success or lack thereof. Stafford's age, Burroughs' health, and Jared Goff's inability to make plays if the pocket collapses. He is a pure old-school pocket passer. Then I think there are four quarterbacks who are rising, stars, they just need a coach, or they need more games, or they need a support system. And that would be Justin Herbert, C.J. Stroud, Jordan Love, and Trevor Lawrence.

But I think all four of those, by the end of this season, you'll think of them as potentially tier two quarterbacks, not tier three. So these are the 10 guys in the league I would pay based on winning health, production, and the ability to elevate others. With Dak Prescott, who I had at 12, I think he's been elevated by others. The numbers clearly show the more Dak reliant the Cowboys are, they do not beat good teams. Now, I have Jalen Hertz at 11, but I'm concerned about size and injuries, and he has had one great year, and that quarter. is now gone.

That concerns me. Also, that is a stacked roster in his division, and there are arguments that, though he has shown an ability to elevate others, he has often been elevated. I'd like to see him with a normal center and with a good O.C., not a great one. Last year at the end of the year,

it wasn't pretty for Jalen Hertz. And could Jalen, could Caleb Williams move into this? Brock Purdy people want But again, to this point, I believe Purdy has been elevated by his coach and roster. He hasn't done anything more than what Jimmy Garoppolo did. Win a bunch of games, win his division, and get to a Super Bowl and lose. That is my top 10.

Now, I think a lot of people look at Goff, and because stylistically, he doesn't wow you. But if you start looking at just yards, touchdowns, accuracy, and winning, Goff's great. There's no doubt about it. He has been a better NFL quarterback than Justin Herbert so far. Herbert's bigger, stronger, moves better with a better arm. But part of my, you know, the elements is winning.

And golf is one more. So Herbert, I think, will win now that he has a very highly, not only competent, but top tier NFL coach. So there it is. If I was going to pay quarterbacks, these were the 10 in that order. They would be pasted in that. It never works that way. Mahomes will be the highest paid quarterback.

Eight months later, he's number four. That's the way it worked. The last guy paid is usually the highest guy if he's a good quarterback. Jay Mack's still grimacing as he looks at it, but I think it's pretty complete. No grimacing. Just, you know, it just feels like a little recency bias. Oh, Jordan Love finished with eight awesome games. Let's shove him in there.

CJ Stroud had a great rookie year. Well, you do, let's be fair. You do have to, as a general manager, look at previous seasons. Okay, fine. Let's look at Justin Herbert. My guy. I love Justin Herbert. So do I.

Career record 30 and 32. No, there's no question. But he's also the only quarterback ever. 4,000, 4,000, 4,000 yards. I love Herbert. With bad O' lines. So Joe Burrow goes down last year with an injury. Everybody, oh, Bengals are done, they're toast.

And the kid Browning nearly led him to the playoffs. Like, I was like, oh, I had not considered that. By the way, this Jalen Hurts injury history. I'm trying to look it up. I don't see him missing like. When's the last time? Lamar's missed more gains than Jalen Hurts. Lamar's also been much greater than Jail.

Yeah, in the regular season. Jay Lawrence has been better in the playoffs. 90% of NFL games are played before the playoffs. So that does matter. We can't just judge people. Eli Manning would be, I mean, if you just counted the playoffs, you have to count the regular season. It comprises, I mean, Joe Flacco.

January Joe, baby. All right. Mark Sanchez. How about that? His jersey, you saw it in Holland. And it's global. We'll have him coming up next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,

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