The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - College Power Houses
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Welcome back. Hour 2. It is a Friday. Stealers camp end of the hour.
Big Ten Media, Jeff Schwartz, former Oregon Duck, NFL is going to be joining us in five minutes.
A lot of stuff called football is percolating big time as well.
J. Mack just went live to Paris with Mark Few.
I could have to him for an hour.
We didn't have an hour, but I could have to talk to him for an hour.
I like Muscle Man, Few.
You're getting back on the college basketball track.
I'm giving you a nudge in that direction.
Well, you are.
Plus, I think the NIL actually helps college basketball.
I mean, if you could go Duke, Gonzaga, Villanova, Kansas, or G League, and you make the same money,
if you get the right coach, I get a Mark Few, or I get a Bill Self, or I get, you know,
if I get a top coach or I can go to the G League, I'd rather be in a college campus.
Plus, the college campus and March Madness is such a mark.
marketing tool, such a promotional device for your shoe deal.
So, I mean, that's why Zion got the big shoe contract.
That's, so to me, you know, I'm not saying there's not good coaches in the G league.
Nick Nurse was there.
You know, Eric Musselman was there.
There'd been good coaches in the G League.
But I'm saying if I could go to Kansas or a Gonzaga or a Yukon for one year, I know
I'm an NBA prospect or G League, I'd go with Dan Hurley.
Yeah, it's probably the, hey, I would rather go overseas or G League because I don't have to
pretend to do school for a year before I go to the NBA.
You know, like, I don't have to go to class.
What a sham this is.
Like, I just want to play basketball and eat healthy and get on the right track.
And, you know, I don't think that's the right attitude.
I'm kind of with you.
I would, you know, the college campus makes a lot of sense.
But try telling that to an 18, 19 year old.
If I hit, if I hit the lottery, I'm going to call Dan Hurley up and slide him a few.
Can I do that?
Dan Hurley?
You think he needs a few?
What's wrong with you, man?
Probably not.
Hey, Dan, do you need a couple bucks?
You're probably right. They're probably well-funded.
Is it legal for us to do that? Can we give to an NIL?
Ryan, can you check on that?
It's your money.
Well, I know, but we're supposed to be above rooting.
I'm not above anything. I'm a Jets fan.
If the Jets had an NIL, you'd give them a monthly check.
Wait, how about this? If Steph Curry demanded a trade from the Warriors tomorrow and went to the Houston Rockets, I'm now a Rockets fan.
I ride with Curry, not necessarily the Warriors. Does that make sense?
Are you okay?
Let's get back to the, is it legal to do NILs?
a sportscaster. Could I give to a collective?
Why not?
I'm just asking the question.
I don't know. What's the problem with that?
Well, the audience may think
you're in the pocket of a school.
You put yourself in the pocket, though.
They don't control you.
By the way, let's
you know what, let's just go to Jeff Schwartz.
Former NFL or Oregon Duck.
I don't know the answer to that.
Jeff, do you know the answer to that? You were a Big Ten
Media Days. If I wanted to give to an NFL
or you wanted to give to Oregon,
Is it okay to do that?
Yeah, why not?
There's no rules against it.
I think the Washington Huskies could use some of your money.
You should throw them some money, Colin.
They could use some more NIL cash.
It's all about the money now, right?
So, you know, Oregon only gets players that want money,
and when they decommission to go somewhere else
is because of the culture and the love of the sport at that school.
So Washington could use some.
Throw some of your direction.
All right.
I'll ponder that.
So you go to the Big Ten Media Days.
Before I get to Oregon, USC, was there an overriding theme?
Was there something that jumped out to you in the Big Ten Media Days?
Maybe it was Oregon.
Well, a lot of people like Oregon, which I did not kind of expect,
even though I know they were voted second and sort of the unofficial media poll for Big Ten Media Day.
But there was a lot of Oregon love, which I thought is unique for going to a brand new conference
in the tradition of the Big Ten and what they stand for and what they have been and what they are going to be,
that Oregon was so probably
if every part of that was Oregon doing a good job
with marketing, putting that duck on the river
and Dan Lennon making some comments
with what he said.
But Colin, my takeaway is the health
and strength of the quarterbacks in this conference.
I judge the strength of your quarterbacks
in your conference right or wrong by how many show up to Media Day.
So look around the country.
The SEC had 12, I believe.
The Big 12 had nine.
The ACC requires all quarterbacks to be there.
The Big 10 had five.
Out of 18 teams, that's a lot of.
it. Will Howard wasn't there. Now, I think Ohio State doesn't have been transfers, but I would
bring your starting quarterback. Drew Allen wasn't there for Penn State, and there's question
marks all over this conference at quarterback. We know how important that is, top of the conference
as well. I have to get to Oregon, Ohio State. Is Dr. Aller going to be good? What's happening in Michigan?
Does Iowa find an offense? So to me, it's all about quarterback, quarterback, quarterback.
If Raola is good in Nebraska, and that defense plays as well as it has last season and can be,
watch out for them. So to me, the theme of the whole three days was, is my quarterback going to improve?
Is my transfer going to play well? Because there's a lot of good defenses. There's some good offensive lines, some good skill guys, but comes down to quarterback play.
Lincoln Riley complained a little about NIL, said we're almost there, almost there. My takeaway was USC may not have Oregon NIL or Texas or whatever. It's fine.
I think the bigger issue with USC inside the program, what I'm hearing is they don't,
think their high school recruiting is very good.
I mean, so, and I look, and I follow USC's depth chart.
They have no depth offensively, in my take is Lincoln.
This is what you do.
You're an offensive guy.
They don't even have a, you know, they don't have an elite quarterback right now.
You know, I sense some frustration in the USC world for very mediocre high school football
recruiting.
Do you sense that?
Oh, I certainly do that.
I think you see that in the depth of the offensive defense alliance, positions that Lincoln
Riley admitted this off season, they can't go portaling for that, right? He came in early.
He tried to build up the trenches with the offensive defense line in the portal and realized
you can add certain pieces, right? Bell Alexander is a good defensive alignment. But you get,
you have one of those guys, right? Now you have to build up those units with high school recruiting.
And so now into year three, they're really in those positions where you are year one,
which is, okay, now we're going to really put focus into those guys and we know it takes a couple
years. Now they have some young offensive linemen that played well last year. They're going to play
this year. But it's about building the depth. When you look at the best defensive lines in the
country, Michigan, Georgia the last couple of years, Clemson over the years, they rotate a lot of
defensive linemen. You need eight guys to play. Right now, USC has one, maybe two guys with pro
potential. So to me, it's about, okay, we've acknowledged a problem, which is we did not go hard enough
in recruiting those high school players in those positions. We have to make up for that. The
problem is it's USC it's now year three right and there's expectations there to win a conference to
being the playoff and it takes years to build those you know those lines up so i'm not sure we're
going to see the results USC fans want with wins and losses but i appreciate the acknowledgement
that we didn't do things the way we need to we're going to fix that the the defense of hires as you
know are fantastic they're they're going to produce when they get the right players in there
um a college football 12 team playoff now i'm not sure if i'm right or not i probably
like LSU more than other people.
I'm trusting Brian Kelly,
but I do think Utah wins the Big 12 over Kansas State,
a team like Boise State or Liberty's guaranteed to get in.
I think Oregon wins the Big Ten.
You're looking at my rundown.
I think what's problematic is a Tennessee or in Iowa
could be a very, very, very good team
and get bumped out by a team like Florida State
winning a week conference, Utah winning a week conference,
or Liberty. Anything here, jump out. Am I missing anybody or any slight here when you look at my
projected bracket? There's a couple of teams I think you're missing, but not teams where I'm like,
oh, wow, Colin's really missing that team. Look, I think your point about the Big Ten teams,
I think those are in. I think the SEC, it's about right. I think people are a little undervaluing
Alabama. They're plus 800 to win the SEC. Same here, yeah. Kail and DeBore is 104 and 11 as a head
coach. Even you take out Sue Falls. I think he's like 37 and 9.
in Division I football
and they have talent.
Some left, but he brought them in.
I think the one team that I look at
in this, it's not on this list,
it's sort of a wild card is Miami.
Miami's schedule is pretty easy.
They have a couple landmines here,
but Cam Ward is really good.
If Mario can get the best out of Cam Ward,
Damien Martinez is good to running back.
Unlike, you know, when we talk about with USC
and the offense defense line,
Mario has recruited those positions well into year three,
and those guys are now big,
contributors up front.
They just have to avoid that one crummy loss,
that one decision.
And with the ACC, the way it is,
with Clemson sort of teetering on talent,
Florida State's interesting, they lose a lot of players.
I'm not quite sold on DJU being great for them.
So Miami, to me, is the one team out of all these
that I think is the wild card.
Because look, Nordame's schedule, they're in.
I mean, they might go 12 and 0.
I think they're in.
The Big Ten teams look about right,
maybe to your point about Iowa,
if they get a little bit of offense this year with their schedule,
They could see 10 and 2 and be a playoff team, but you don't want to play Iowa in the postseason.
Finally, I said this, Harbaugh leaving, you think it's a favor for Ohio State, and I see it the opposite.
Now Ohio State has to win the conference.
I mean, Harbaugh's been in the NFL.
He's succeeded.
To say he's better than Ryan Day, like, that's not a big leap.
But now Harbaugh's out.
Washington and Michigan are in rebuilds.
USC is still building.
only Oregon has a roster close to Ohio State, in my opinion, and they play in Eugene.
If he loses that game in Eugene, I mean, my take is there's more pressure on Ryan Day,
and I said this yesterday, is that I don't know what they are other than talented.
They're a little like Texas and Sark.
Love the roster, not sure what they are.
I always knew what Sabin's Bama teams are or Kirby's Georgia teams.
even Lincoln Riley, I kind of know what they are and what they're not.
Ohio State and Texas are just talented.
How much pressure on Ryan Day this year?
You can feel the pressure talking to him on the radio.
He understands what is expected of them.
Unlike, look, Oregon's, there's a lot of expectations, but Dan Lang's in year three.
You know, like Ryan Day is now, I think, in year six or seven.
They've lost the rival three straight years.
That rival won a championship, by the way, while he's been there.
And I think that there's pressure.
And then, Colin, you know this.
Everyone knows this.
They spent a lot of resources on making that roster the best of the country.
A lot of resources.
They brought in Chip Kelly to be offensively.
It's a little different philosophy offensively than what they've had over the years,
run the football a little bit more.
They need to pair sort of Ryan Day's passing game with Chip Kelly's run game
formationally.
Defensively, they can rush the passer.
They brought in Caleb Downs.
Like they have Burke.
I mean, they got dudes.
And so they have to, at the minimum, got to be Michigan and got to be in the Big Ten
championship game, that probably guarantees you a spot in the playoff.
But there's about four or five teams this year that are legitimately championship robust.
And Ohio State's one of them.
If they don't win a championship this year, maybe you want a playoff game, your fans back off a little bit.
But the expectation this year with the roster, it comes down to my opinion to how good
Will Howard plays is championship robust.
Yeah.
I mean, Michigan, say what you want.
They had an opportunity in the roster, and they brought home the trophy.
When Alabama or Georgia had the best roster, they bring home trophy.
they bring home trophies.
Ohio State's arguably got the best roster.
You can't be the sixth best team in the country when the playoff is done.
So Jeff Schwartz, Fox Sports Analyst, former NFL offensive linemen is always good seeing you, bud.
Glad to be here.
Thank you.
You bet.
You know, some of these football powerhouses are good every year, but they're fan bases.
Fewer NFL games, scarcity of games.
Ohio State will only play one game all season in the regular season, Oregon,
where somebody has equal talent.
In the NFL, you can see good teams.
You can see a good Colts team years ago,
go down to a bad Jacksonville team and get upset,
and it's not shocking.
So college football, more pressure on coaches,
because they're like six brands in the country
that always have more good players.
You know, Bama, LSU, and Georgia,
always have great players.
When Texas has the right coach, always better players.
Ohio State, Michigan doesn't.
Michigan doesn't recruit like a lot.
Ohio State. Ohio State is an SEC team north.
Like on average in my lifetime, four schools have the best players if they have a great coach.
Bama, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State.
Now, it used to be USC, but the West Coast high school football does not produce like it used to do years ago in the Pete Carroll era.
It's just there's not as many good players in California as there used to be.
There's a lot of pushback on high school football from parents out west that you don't deal with in the South or the Midwest.
So at Ohio State, you may, all year, face one team that has your talent.
That Georgia, Ohio State game, when you watch that game, that Georgia won, you're like, okay, there's 26 NFL players on the field.
That was a rare game for them where you were like, okay, Ohio State, Georgia, they look like the speed, the quarterbacks, the edge rushers.
But there's, I mean, Ryan Day's teams are talented.
Texas has been talented by entire life.
what are you?
I always know what Bama is.
Last year with Kaelin DeBore.
I knew what Washington was and what they weren't.
Ohio State's just talented and they've got to get out of that space.
So I was able to look up some college football lines for some of the bigger games this season.
You want to get, we'll guess the two easy ones.
Okay.
Michigan at Ohio State.
Now this is late in the season, but they have a line up.
My guess right now today is Ohio State minus eight and a half.
Okay, it's Ohio State minus nine and a half.
Yeah.
Now, the big one that's going to be tough.
Take your time on this.
Ohio State at Oregon.
Who's favored them by how much?
I would say Ohio State by one and a half.
Oregon minus one.
Yeah, that's going to be the game of the year.
Probably, yeah.
That's going to be.
Now, again, it's early.
You can't get down too much on these.
I don't think.
I think Ohio State thinking, yeah, we play in the big house.
There's 100,000 people.
Oregon is so much louder than Michigan.
I mean, it's only like 55,000.
Oregon is the loudest small stadium in the world.
It's built into the ground.
So that place is going to be, I've been there for big Oregon games.
There's only two stadiums out west where you can't hear.
Washington, Husky Stadium and Oregon.
And because of it's not open air, Oregon's built into the ground.
It's louder than Washington.
Washington's got, you know, the sound and some of the sound escapes.
The two loudest stadiums I've ever been in, Gainesville, Florida.
because it's built.
Well, yeah, it's built up.
So the sound has nowhere to go, but reverb back and forth.
And Oregon.
And Ohio State's saying, oh, 50,000.
We play in double of that in Michigan.
Camp Randall's way bigger.
They're not as loud as Oregon.
You better come in knowing you will not hear your coaches.
Isn't Camp Randall the one that does jump around?
By the way, great.
People just have no, they go to Oregon, they look at the stadium, I think it's not very big.
I can stand.
If you and I are within four feet,
I couldn't hear you talk.
You don't think that's the case in Ann Arbor at the Big House?
No, all that escapes because the way it's built, the sound escape.
Oregon is in the ground and loud.
The old one was even louder than this one.
This one's still deafening.
Do you want to try to get us tickets to that game?
Do you like how I did?
I didn't get us tickets to the game.
You want to go?
I'd go.
That's the game of the year in college football.
I hope we have it at Fox.
I don't know, but that's the game of the year.
That is unbelievable.
It's like a couple years ago, Texas played Bama.
You're like, that game you want to be at.
Plus, I think it's reasonably early in the season, so it won't be, is it in October or something?
I don't think it's late.
October 12th.
So the fall in Eugene, Oregon, 65 degrees.
Oh, green.
I mean, if you can hook it up.
See if you can give your JV basketball team a couple days off.
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You know, we want to keep our walk-ons
You know, it's
Wrong bite
I would imagine
If Sabin who has great pass rushes
And corners
Had a problem with neighbors
Then you're going to have a problem
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Is take out your best receiver
Basically on the video
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I remember, remember Ty Hilton?
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It's just tough for me to make a case.
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and give Daniel Jones second and short, third, and short.
So it's going to be more pressure
and more third and long,
because this O-line's not great, and the run game lost the guy.
Remember, they made a move on the tight end from the Raiders, the guy.
He was retired.
Yeah, he just up and retired.
Like, it's just things are not going well right now for the New York Giants.
All right, let's move on to the Raiders.
Gosh, this is freaking embarrassing.
So they had training camp this week, and a seventh round rookie made a really dumb move.
So one of the fans for the Raiders brought a Kermit puppet dressed up as Patrick Mahomes
and the Vegas rookie safety, Trey Taylor's his name,
grabbed the puppet from the fan
and went to the videotape, and here it is.
Oh, boy.
It's still early in the year.
Stuff like that happens.
You'll get handled when it gets handled.
Petrick County, like a ton of people send that, say,
is I sure?
Why is it?
Not really, honestly.
Everybody kind of just lets me play.
I mean, they know how I am,
so they don't need to send me anything
to keep me motivated.
Oh, trouble.
Well, Holmes is already aware of it.
Antonio Pierce addressed the team instantly
because this went viral on social media.
Mahomes is getting asked about it.
Pierce said that we nipped it in the bud.
It's over with.
Maybe from your side of the things.
You don't think the Chiefs are talking about this?
I don't know, man.
So we circled it on the calendar.
Week 8, Mahomes and the Chiefs against the Raiders.
Should be a fun one.
Chiefs by 30?
Just organizationally,
are you surprised this came from the Raiders?
I mean, this is the seventh round rookie out of Air Force.
He might not even make the team for all we know.
He just did something dumb.
He was all excited to be at camp.
People are making fun of Mahomes.
And, yeah, revenge should be pretty sweet there for Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Final story is to the NBA where the Sixers added Paul George this offseason,
biggest move in the league.
And they're confident they can match up with the Celtics next season.
How confident will Darry say this in a recent radio appearance?
I'm a big objective data guy
and we're right there in the conversation
with a very small number of teams
you know top top three top two
top four in the league
someone there obviously you got to give the Celtics
their credit they won the title
they're an excellent team they brought everybody back
they're the target but
you know we don't we don't feel like
we give up anything to them
and we're going to be coming to
take the title away from them
yeah Philadelphia talks a lot
Boston wins a lot.
Big difference.
I think they'll be really good, but should be noted,
Embed has been the big disappointment in the Olympics.
And he's never healthy in the playoffs.
And Paul George is always something with that guy.
I mean, listen, I don't think we can make a definitive statement on the Sixers
until the playoffs are here and who's healthy, right?
I think that's completely fair.
I know you want to play that game.
I love Paul George and Maxie, but it's all in the health of the big guy.
As the league gets bigger, is he available?
Yeah, and for the Celtics, Porzingis with the surgery.
He could be out for like five months.
So there's a world where the Sixers are the number one seed, right?
Now, they had home court advantage.
Now, they actually didn't.
Two years ago, they could have taken out Philly.
Could have taken out to Celtics.
And, of course, Jason Tatum went nuclear in the fourth quarter.
But it should be good.
Sixers, Celtics, probably for the Eastern Conference title.
Keep your eye on the Knicks.
Keep your on the Knicks.
And also keep your eye on Indiana.
I think Orlando.
No.
Well, I think Orlando's good, but I think Indiana is ahead of them.
Jay Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
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The Hurd-Lie News.
So you saw a little adabo Swinney.
So college football, by the way, has the oldest demographic of all the sports outside of baseball.
And baseball and college football, they just go kicking and screaming with any change.
As people get older, studies show, they get more conservative, they want fewer changes.
NIL was going to ruin college football.
Ratings went up.
Transfer Portal was going to ruin college football.
Rating went up.
Pact 12 disbanding going to ruin college football.
Last year, ratings went up.
Take a deep breath.
I remember years ago when Christian McCaffrey at Stanford, it was like a second-tier bull.
I'm not going to plan that bowl game.
I'm going to go to the NFL.
Oh, Lord.
Oh, Lord.
If you had to hear another just, it's like politics.
The world's ending constantly.
Democracy at stake.
Christian McCaffrey had carried.
read Stanford, no reason to play in like the Liberty Bowl.
And so now here's the, I like Davoswini, but so here's the story apparently is that
as part of the settlement, House versus the NCAA, schools can no longer be limited in the
number of scholarships.
But to reduce expenses, because now teams can carry 80, 90, 100 players on scholarships,
it's going to get read of walk-on programs.
So a lot of these walk-ons, they're not going to be around college football.
Dabo Sweeney was a walk-on at Alabama, so he has great fondness for them.
But those kids can all go to FCS schools.
Or maybe they earn a scholarship.
But there's just walk-ons are not why we watch college football.
But Dabo is worked all up over walk-ons, apparently, have a very murky, tenuous future.
The crazy thing is, is there's not many coaches that want to hunt.
105 scholarships.
You know, we want to keep our walk-ons.
You know, it's hard to manage, you know, that many guys.
And when you have that many guys on scholarship, you think you've got transfers now.
You wait at that number gets there.
It's going to be a lot.
So it's going to change a lot of things.
Yeah, again, I think the walk-on programs, Nebraska was legendary for years.
Clemson's got a good walk-on program.
You know what?
College football is going to be fine.
And basically in the NCAA case, you cannot limit the number of scholarships a program is going to have.
Like Dabo said, that doesn't mean you want 100 scholarships.
Now the limit's 85.
That's getting blown out.
I'm sure some schools will add players, but players also want to go where they can play.
And if Georgia's got 105 players, you're not getting on the field unless you're great.
They'll be carrying 13 corners, 12 wide receivers.
Six are going to play.
Four are going to play a lot.
So it's just college football fans and baseball fans.
Any change is met with resistance.
And I get it.
I was watching a story on HBO last night.
I'm watching this series on Charlie Hustle, Pete Rose.
And one of the Reds former announcers said in Cincinnati,
there's parts of Cincinnati that have lived there for 50 years.
They've never left the house they grew up in.
And that's like college football fans.
It's very regional, very tribal.
We don't want change.
All these changes, all I say.
is the revenue go up and the ratings go up.
And ratings are truth serum to the viability of any sport.
When college basketballs went down for 15 years, the sport wasn't as viable.
If the ratings are good, that means the public's captivated and interested, and nobody's
watching for walk-ons.
They can go play at Eastern Washington University.
They can go play at an FCS school, get a scholarship, have a great time, and actually play.
The sport's going to be okay.
We're going to go to Steelers camp coming up next.
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Steeleers and he is now joining us live.
So I said earlier today that Russ and Tomlin are kind of in the same boat.
They haven't felt relevant for years.
Russ hasn't won two playoff games in a single season in a decade.
Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in a long time.
I think it's seven years.
They both have rings.
They both have status.
They're sitting on piles of money and fame, blah, blah, blah.
But I do feel like they kind of need each other this year.
Is that kind of a fair summation of what this Steeler season will look like?
Yeah, I think you're right.
I mean, I think Tomlin and Russell Wilson are one of the same,
and I think that's why they get along so well.
Russell Wilson even talked about how much he enjoys just talking
and have conversations with Mike Tomlin.
Now, that's not unusual.
Mostly all the players come out and say that.
But, yeah, definitely, I think they're in the same,
I mean, for the most part, point of their career, right?
as Tomlin would say, there's more days behind him than there is in front of him.
That same goes with Russell Wilson.
That's one of the reasons why I think that Russell Wilson gets every shot in the world,
plus about three more, before they even think about moving towards Justin Fields.
I think they are very similar and what they want and how they approach things.
And they're similar mindset, too.
I mean, Russell, Sierra, Rich, he's a star.
Pittsburgh's sort of a working class.
It's a blue-collar work ethic in the building.
That's always been the Steelers.
It's like Green Bay, but maybe even more conservative, more about defense.
Will Russell be accepted in Pittsburgh?
What do you make of so far in that kind of weird, interesting relationship?
I'll put it this way.
Whoever is Russell Wilson's PR agent needs a promotion and a raise
because since the day he signed here, he's done everything perfectly right
in order to win over the fans and knowing what to say, knowing what to do, knowing what to act.
Like, it's just been amazing.
I mean, you see him at pirate games.
You see him at NCAA tournament games.
He's talking about Parvani Brothers sandwiches.
So he's doing all he can to get to that point right now.
But the bottom line is if he comes out week one, two, and three and doesn't play well,
fans will turn on him in a second.
I mean, that's just how it is in Pittsburgh.
It doesn't matter who it is.
if you don't produce, we look somewhere else.
And that's the case right now.
I mean, we don't know what Russell Wilson can do.
He's doing everything right perfectly to the T right now
leading up to the point of getting on the field.
And he hasn't gotten on the field up here on La Trobe quite yet.
But like I said, whoever his PR team is, he knows.
He's smart.
He knows how to get in the good graces of the fans.
And I've never seen it as quickly of people gravitating to a guy like Russell Wilson
and becoming one of their own,
even though, like you said, he's Hollywood,
he's a guy that's coming to the outside.
Schedule is brutal in the last couple months,
but if you look at the early schedule, Mark,
the games in which Pittsburgh is better are on the road.
You want that.
At Denver, at the Colts, at the Raiders, at the commanders.
They also get the teams, they may be an underdog,
the go-either-way games, they get them at home,
chargers, cowboys, jets.
My guess is
they start pretty well.
I think Pittsburgh, when they get to the buy-in
week nine, is a winning team.
I think their defense is good enough
to win close home games.
You're smiling a little bit.
I think they'll start well and end poorly.
What's your take when you look at the schedule
in their current state?
Yeah, I agree with you with the schedule.
I mean, it's easier or early on
where they can get some wins.
but the problem is probably six out of the last seven years,
they've got off to an unbelievably slow start.
And they've had to make up for it in the back end of it.
Yeah.
So, I mean, we said last year they had to get off to a fast start
to have any chance because they had a late stretch of tough games.
It didn't happen.
So they put themselves behind the eight ball.
So you're right.
They do have winnable games early at home,
not tough places to go to last year or two years ago,
I think two years ago last year,
We went to Atlanta, and the Steelers went to Atlanta, and it was 80% Steelers fans.
Yeah.
I mean, I can see the same thing happening in Indianapolis again.
So they do have that advantage, but you look at the history, and it's not good under Tomlin,
at least over the last five, six, seven years of starting off quickly.
It's going to be probably the determination factor of this team can compete or not.
Yeah, and it's a good point.
If you look at the offensive coaches in this league, like McVeigh, Shanahan,
Andy Reed, historically offensive coaches.
They bring some new things under the table and start very quickly.
The defensive coaches, Tomlin and Belichick, McDermott,
tend to be better middle and late in the season, so that's a very good point.
I want to talk Justin Fields.
In Chicago, to the very end, despite not winning enough, people loved him.
He's likable.
He's one of the guys.
He's not, you know, he's authentic.
he's getting a bunch of snaps now.
What happens if he kind of blows everybody away in preseason?
What's going to happen?
Is a two-game losing streak?
Is he coming on the field?
I don't think so.
I just don't see it right now.
First of all, I understand what you see from Justin Fields
because you see it every single day, even out here in camp,
the time he takes off to just be able to go talk to the fans
and sign for the fans.
That's very unusual, and everybody does love him.
Yeah.
But, you know, as for the locker room, it's all about who,
wins and who gives them the best chance to put up numbers.
And I don't think there's much of an opportunity.
I mean, barring Russell Wilson gets back here soon and he's supposed to,
it was just a little tweak of a calf muscle that he was pushing a sled around during a
running drill to start camp.
I don't know why he's pushing a sled around doing running drills, but he should be back
soon enough.
You get to that point, you have to give him every opportunity to learn this offense,
and push you forward here.
So I think it's very difficult for him to be able to overtake Russell Wilson unless,
I mean, even if it's a catastrophic disaster to start this season,
I think Russell Wilson is going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah.
I don't see him as a playoff team in their division.
Do you?
Well, that depends.
I mean, let's see what Baltimore does.
Let's see what a team like Cleveland does.
I'm not quite sure where they are.
They're going to have to win anywhere, at least a minimum of 10 games, right?
If you don't get the 10 wins, you have no chance of winning the division here.
They've changed so much stuff on offense that you don't know how quickly they're going to start on on offense.
From a handful of coaches to Arthur Smith to rookie offensive linemen, to both quarterbacks,
to the entire Y-Receiver crew other than George Pickens.
They get those guys up to speed fast enough.
Tomlin's proved that the longer the season goes on, the better off that they get.
But you're going to have to win.
I mean, they beat Baltimore six out of seven games, right?
They've handled Cincinnati without Joe Burrow for a couple of times.
It's going to take a lot.
They're going to have to be pretty much near perfect.
But you're going to have to win 10-11 games, and that's really pushing in my estimation.
Yeah.
Mark Caboli, senior writer, the Athletic, covers the Steelers.
As always, my friend, I appreciate you giving us a few minutes and some insight to Pittsburgh.
Thanks, man.
All right, Mark Cabali, the athletic.
Yeah, their schedule is really interesting.
So I tend to look at it.
And the games that are, you might be an underdog, they get a lot of those at home.
Chargers, Cowboys, Jets, Ravens through Week 11.
They get a lot of those to the midway point.
They get a lot of the tough games.
They could be a dog at home.
That helps.
That's worth two or three points.
The games, they should win, you know,
facing Bo Nicks, the rookie quarterback week two, young Anthony Richardson week four,
the Raiders week six, commanders week 10 rookie quarterback.
They get those on the road.
So they'll be favored in those games.
And those are the games you like to go, you know, if you're a favorite,
why do you want to waste a home game as a six-point favorite?
I don't, I kind of see Pittsburgh as nine and eight, but I do think they're going to pick up
some wins.
The Atlanta game's fascinating.
They're an underdog.
That game, you know, Tomlin's teams have started slow, but they do generally play very well as a road.
As you know, J. Mack, they're a very good road dog.
So if you told me in that game early, I would probably take Pittsburgh plus two and a half because Kirk Cousins hasn't taken live snaps.
Pittsburgh's defense has jelled for years, and Tomlin is a great road dog coach.
Yeah, I'm looking at the depth chart for the Steelers.
There's a chance they start two rookies on the offensive line.
Well, one of them is great.
Well, yeah, but come on.
There's a learning curve for that.
I'm not feeling the Steelers team, dude.
Seven wins, maybe?
Seven, eight?
Worst in the division?
We agree.
They have the worst quarterback in the division, right?
Well, I trust Russell Wilson in a big spot over to Sean Watson.
I do.
I think Russell was B-ish last year.
I don't trust a Sean at all.
13 in three years for Russ.
I know.
I'm not,
but you heard what Mark said.
He's been perfect.
Fans, relationships, players.
You kind of got to be.
He's guys have an option.
By the way, here's Tomlin earlier this week on the quarterback situation.
Just lost up all this season.
Nothing has changed.
How do you plan on working those?
reps with them and Jeff.
Very carefully.
You guys think I'm actually back myself into a corner,
so you guys are going to ask me daily about the rep allocations.
No way.
I've been on the job too long for that.
We'll see.
I think they'll be okay.
But that division is a handful.
Hour three.
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