The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2- Doug Gottlieb Guest Hosting

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

Doug in for Colin as he weighs in on Joey Chestnut and his dominant performance in the most recent Nathan's Hot Dog Eating contest. Doug talks about Lamar Jackson as the All-Pro says he is going to try and be a more vocal leader. Doug welcomes former Bucs GM Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about the Steelers, Jets and all of the major headlines around the NFL.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And for the next two hours, I want to talk sports with you. From Poway to Escondito, all the way up to Santa Clarita. Jason Stewart, and about five people in Southern California smiled and knew what that was or who that was.

Joey Chestnut just ate 72 dogs in the hot dog eating contest, right? There is something about the hot dog eating contest which feels a lot like the home run derby. It's a lot like the home run derby. You know, when it first made it big and it was Kobayashi.

It was cool. Then all of a sudden, you know, we have this Joey Chestnut character comes out of nowhere and just can crush dogs like nothing we seen before. Then last year, he did like some sponsorship deal with a meatless hot dog, which, yeah, that sounds pretty terrible. I'm just not going to lie to you. I don't know. They do not sponsor this show, and I'm not decrying any brand.

And I don't even like hot dogs. Yeah, that's me. I don't. I mean, I'll eat one. I mean, they're still delicious, but I don't like them just because hot dogs are, they're like popcorn. They don't always taste good,

but they always smell really good, and they kind of over-promise and under-deliver. I'm not going to lie to you. And look, there's lots of great styles of eating hot dogs. I love a Chicago dog. It's different. It's unique.

You know, you throw tomatoes, it those little, whatever those little pickle thingies are and they're, you know, they're good. You can be a snob and say you can't eat ketchup on your hot dog. I disagree. Jay Stu, you and I have discussed there's nothing special about a Dodger dog. It's just a hot dog that's bought at a Dodger game. But for whatever reason, the simplicity of the execution makes you think you're buying

something worth the, I don't even know how much the Dodger dog is now, but whatever you're overpaying for it. It also speaks to the power of alliteration. if you make something alliterative in this country people think it's a much bigger deal than it is. The Dodger dog is it kind of a lengthy

hot dog that tastes the same as most hot dogs, but they're Dodger dogs. So there's some gravity to that for whatever reason and it works. They're not going to run from it. So yeah, it speaks to alliteration. And by the way, Chesnut

he crushed 71 hot dogs today. The record by him was 76 in 10 minutes but he did I think eat 25 more hot dogs than second place. He crushed the field. A remarkable return by the champion.

So if he goes from 76 to 71 is this like you know when your velo is just slightly down as a pitcher like still dominant but you can see that we're no longer peak chestnut. Yeah and he's got to find

more creative ways to win. you know. Yeah, so now he's not a thrower, now he's more of a pitcher. Now he's not an eater, he's more of a chewer. I don't know what the, I don't know what the, what the, what the, what the, what the proper term is. Uh, perfect, you had something? Yeah, I, I, I, I, if I may, if, if, are you interested in my, like, story of my first Dodger dog? Because I am not from L.A. like you and, uh, I'm in Southern California, like you and, you and, uh, Jason.

Because I had this grand vision in my head of a Dodger dog. from what I have been told about all this stuff. And when I went to my first Dodger game and just got a plain, long hot dog wrapped in foil, I was supremely disappointed. Yeah. And I had already experienced what I think is like L.A.'s better dogs, which are those bacon-wrapped hot dogs you get literally anywhere, but mostly outside the Memorial Coliseum during USC games, but like literally any car. No, you get outside anywhere.

Literally anywhere. Yeah, those danger dogs are everywhere. And they'll give you like half a jalapeno with them. Isn't Pinkies considered the best LA dogs? Anyway. And then, of course, you know, I mean, if you do the Tommy's, Tommy says burgers, but Tommy's also has dogs, that's when you get the chili cheese. Chili burgers, yeah. Chili, yeah.

What Perfet is talking about, and they do have it in New York at a lot of places, is you walk out of literally any sort of gathering. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if when people get done with family cookouts and they leave the park these days, there's like, a group of people selling and they smell so good but sophy has there's sofi the forum uh into it staples dodger stadium i believe when the pro i believe when the protests were happening here in l a the other month someone set up a one of those carts on the 101 like there's everywhere yeah no no i have a video i will find it and send it to you later that that sounds yes the point is that when you walk out of of these things. There's a hot dog wrapped in bacon.

And this again, this is the false advertising of the hot dog. Hot dog and bacon, those are two of the greatest smells. You can be the most ardent vegetarian, you know, and walk out and go, I will forget everything I've been taught or any sort of conclusions I've come to about meat because I have to eat whatever smells so good. So then you go to Dodger Stadium, you're like, world famous Dodger dog. Give me two.

And they're like, here you go. And you unwrap the foil, and there is a rather pale hot dog in a fresh, though moist bun, right? Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer. A bit of a bummer. Had a buddy of mine who's in Chicago who sent me a picture of hot dugs. everybody in Chicago knows hot dogs. Chicago dogs, as advertised, are different than Dodger dogs, which are just footlong hot dogs.

Sorry. They're still good, but whatever you make of them is whatever you want to put on them. Anyway, Joey Chestnut, 71 dogs. I mean, I guess it's because he took the year off that now we're like a triumphant return, but it is a little bit of the home run. Derby to me. You know, no matter how much Chris Berman wants to go back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, gone. Like, it's, yeah, that's, I don't know, that's not really, you know, it's like the eating, like an eating contest should be, I like that eating contest with those big porterhouse steaks,

right? Those gigantic steaks where you get, like, got to eat one, and it takes dudes hours to do, you got like an hour to eat, like, a 72-ounce steak. And you got to eat all the gristle and everything else. Whereas the hot dog thing, I think we've all come to learn. There is some sort of trick to it. I don't know what the trick is, but it's like a magic trick that everyone sort of knows and he maybe has cracked the code on how to make it work better.

Right? Because no matter how hungry you are, you can't get past five. Can you, J-stue? Normally eating a hot dog, the hungriest you've ever been. could you get past five? Oh, probably not five. I will say this. Can't even get past two.

I always get two hot dogs at the Dodger game, and it's just pure bliss. There's nothing like a Dodger dog with mustard and onions. That's the necessary thing, and a beer at a Dodger game. There's just something about that combination. And if I am really, really hungry, I'll probably get a third one.

But, yeah, I think I have to stop at three, don't you? Yeah, I think what happens is when you go get the Dodger dog, and even when you get the first beer, it's like a hot day, you go get a beer like, God, it's so good. When you go back, I think the mental, mentally you're trying to get back to that moment where you're having that first bite bliss again, and you can't recapture it.

No, it's the law of diminishing returns. Oh. You know, it definitely, the next one is not as good as the last one for sure. I'm going to tout this. Okay, so have you guys been to any been to Miller Park? Profet, your Midwest guy, Detroit, you ever been in Miller Park? I have Milwaukee is one of those Midwest cities I have not been up to, so no. Okay, they have these popcorn stands where they make it fresh, but more than anything, they have the fresh butter.

Obviously, it's a dairy state. When I tell you this is the best popcorn I ever had in my life, it's not like I've just had popcorn when I've gone to the movies. Like I've gone through stretches of having popcorn every night before I go to bed. No, if you can get like the fresh. Like what I do, I've done college basketball games. I need college basketball games for 22 years. Okay.

And now as a head coach, I always have popcorn in the locker like they got popcorn. Can you get popcorn? Just because it's so easy to get you a little salt, feels you up a little bit, smells good, whatever. So I've had a lot of popcorn in my life. I've probably, chicken is probably the one thing I've, had more than anything else. But outside of chicken, I'm not sure popcorn isn't right there with hamburgers. In terms of how many times I have had a P-safe popcorn on a day in my 49 years on this earth.

Okay. I'm telling you the popcorn, the fresh made popcorn with the real butter at Miller Park. No, it's called Ameri... Oh, man. I need to know this because it's an insurance company that's big and family... Oh, God. What's the name of the park that they used to be called? American Family Field. At American Family Field.

American Family is an insurance company. Anyway, it's... I'm not kidding. It's the best popcorn I've ever had my life. And I would challenge anybody. Now, if you're one of those... I like dry popcorn. I'm not really sure you should exist on this earth, but that's okay.

outside of people who like plain dry popcorn it's the best popcorn I don't know how I got to that aside that surprises me because like they have to mass produce those things and usually do get the kind of the stale and a bag popcorn at the ballpark no but they have the the regular popcorn at the regular concessions but then they have these red carts and they're like big red carts They're not like the little ones that you can get like in your game room at your house, like a big red cart and there's a, you know, a woman or a man who's working there. And then so they have like the popcorn being popped fresh.

And then next to it they have the butter that's just like boiling right there next to like real butter. And they take like a ladle and they like sprinkle it on. And then you take a little salt. You're like, this is the greatest thing I've ever had my life. That sounds amazing. My grandma used to make it that way. And it's still, yeah, I think I haven't had this. I don't know how they do it.

There's a trick to it, though, because, again, when you try and do the real butter at home, the popcorn can become mushy. Still delicious, become mushy, right? Whatever they, especially use hot butter. The cold butter doesn't work. I don't know how they do it, but the popcorn still maintains its consistency, though it has real butter sprouting. How do we get her? Oh, we're talking about Jason, Jason. No, we're talking about Joey Chestnut.

Joey Chestnut. Yeah, I just, I don't know, guys. I just, I love the pomp and circumstance and the sarcasm and how the Nathan's people approach the whole thing. I do. It's fun, it's light, nothing else going on. But I got to be honest with you, it is like home run derby. We're like, I've seen this before.

I know how it ends. And it's a tough watch. Like, I, I did, I caught the summary to see how he ranked against his other, his other events and everything else but there's a TV and studio here and I could have watched all 71 dogs go down I can't watch

these people eat those hot dogs and I don't understand the thirst for that like people love watching people eat like it just seems it's just unsettling to me I'm sorry it's not for me I think this is different from watching people eat because I like plenty of those what do they call them on

YouTube it's like a Korean word muck bang or whatever it's like what is it called muckbang muk-b-a-n-g i haven't said anything found like a dirty word it's not i swear i swear to god it's not but if i google that is if i google that will i i think you're safe okay but i think this is different from watching someone just have a nice meal this is like watching someone forcing down hot dogs well past their limit like not even enjoying the food as they are just shoving it down their gullet and like working out the water and everything. This is this is not, this isn't how this.

I think what turns people off from the hot dogging contest is like this isn't how food is supposed to be consumed. And yet somehow we're just doing something grotesque beyond beyond even gluttony, I feel like. I think people watch to see somebody throw up. Yeah, that too. But that also just makes it more disgusting. It's like, it's like, it's like, um, we were talking about this earlier about you know UFC potentially having a fight on the White House lawn in a year right there's a part of me that watches because I like because at the end of some of these fights you might have somebody lose an eyeball you know you might they're just you know everybody knows that meme with that woman who just looks like her her face got rained over by a tractor right and she's doing a part of

post-match interview. Like, there's part of me that watches that for, somebody's arm is going to get it. Oh, that's gross. So I do think that there's a portion of people that watch eating contests because they're secretly rooting for somebody to just, like in stand by me, throw up over everybody else. Anyway, there's a recap.

Joey Chestnut. Still, the world's greatest Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Champion. Okay, coming up next in, The Hurt. I'm Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin. Why are the Pittsburgh Steelers not extending T.J. Watt? Former GM will tell us. Next. Be sure to catch live editions of the HARD weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.

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That Lamar Jackson says he's working on becoming more of a vocal leader. More of a vocal leader. This is Lamar Jackson on with Kevin Hart. What was the most difficult adjusting for you in the NFL? Just being a leader. Okay. I'm going to say being a leader because I'm really not outspoken, like being vocal with my guys like, oh, let's do this and that. Got a great motivation of speech.

I don't have that. You know, I just pretty much lead by example. I go out there, I'm going to work hard. I expect that out of you. But as I've been growing in the league, it's like, nah, you got to talk to the guys. Coaches and stuff, like, I tell me, I talk to the guys. I'm like, all right, now I talk to them one-on-one, but certain things I'm seeing, I got to voice it more. Like, what's my opinion, more to those guys?

I think it's a really hard thing. And I love that Lamar expresses that it's something that he doesn't do. He's honestly got to know who you are in this world, especially as an athlete. But look, I go back to my time playing in college. Our best player up until my senior year was, ironically, same name as the running back at Oklahoma later on. Adrian Peterson. And, you know, the coaches wanted Adrian Peters. He goes like Pete to be a vocal leader like that's not who he is he was our best player everybody respected him when he said things people responded but he's just not a that wasn't who he was and now in the in coaching it's like same thing with point guards right like you want your point guard to be vocal and be leader on the other hand it's really hard to make somebody who's not into something that they're not you can make them better like the mar can get better progressively over it but

But that's what I've heard of Lamar as well, which is like he just goes and does the work and everybody likes him. But in terms of in front of a team or being demanding, it's not who he is. You know, verbally. And I just, it sounds good to say to somebody and it does, it's very reasonable to go, I know myself this is something I need to do better. But the idea that you're going to go from not being a focal leader to being one. It's not a, you can get better, but you don't become one I don't think. We'll get back to some NFL stuff in a second. Let me get to Jason Stewart.

And then, oh, okay, I'm sorry. My mistake. We'll get Jay Stewart with the news upcoming. Yeah, I just, I don't think you become a vocal leader. It's not just overnight, even over years. You'll become better and better and better. And he's obviously earned the respective of everybody in that franchise. and

everybody in the NFL, right? You've been doing it long enough, you've been doing it really well, but that doesn't make somebody able to do something. They're just not comfortable. That's just not who they are. Here's another one.

I played for a long-time legendary NBA head coach John McLeod when I played at Notre Dame. And, you know, I had only played for coaches that were intense verbally. my dad my high school coach

I played for two different high school coaches they get after it they get after you and they were demanding verbally and so I never forget I played Notre Dame and John McLeod was the head coach at the time

and you know coached with Phoenix with the sons in what's called the greatest NBA finals game ever and the four overtime game against the Celtics. He coached the New York Knicks, and everything he did, he did with class. If he had a problem with something you were doing, you'd get to your dorm room. Remember hotels?

Some of them still have it where they have the little red light that blinks when you have a message. Well, as a Notre Dame, we had those phones in our rooms, and you'd have a message. And the message would be from his secretary to come down and meet coach. And you come down, you say, hi. And secretary said how else is and coaches. And he walked down to his office was the very back office. And you go in there and he'd offer you, you know, a powerade or a water to drink and close the door.

And you'd watch some film. And if he had something he needed to tell you, he'd tell you so sternly, but only in person and not in front of a group. And, you know, it wasn't, obviously weren't very good as first year in the Big East. and yet he never lost his mind on us. He never screamed at us. He didn't until, and I'm going to say it was like end of January, we're playing at Boston College at the Conte Forum. And it was a weird game because, again, this is how old I am, 30 years ago,

massive snowstorms, one of the biggest snowy winters on record. And so we had to fly into Albany. instead of Boston, bus to Boston. We thought our game was going to get postponed. It was moved from seven at night to nine at night. There might have been 50 people in the stands because, I mean, you move a game time and there's a gigantic snowstorm outside. Nothing else is going on. And we're down like 21 at the half.

We're just flat. Don't get me wrong. They're better than us. But whether it's the travel or Jessica, we're mentally, I don't know. We're just flat. and he lost his mind and started yelling at us. And it was, like, painful to listen to him yell. I mean, here's a guy who's at the time probably in his late 50s to maybe early 60s.

Classiest can be, like watch beautiful gold like Rolex suit. His tie was always immaculate. His hair was perfect. Like, the guy smelled good. Like, he wouldn't look. He looked like a professional, high-level NBA coach. and everything was classy and everything would be like this and then he lost his mind and he tried to yell and he just basically lost his voice yelling and it dawned on me then

which is like you can't be something you're not he wasn't a yeller don't try and be a yeller and i would be fascinated to see what happens if lamar tries to get on to people or you know tries to be more verbal and it's just not who he is so yeah i i um I think of those two people, of Adrian Peterson and of John McLeod, but I think of people trying to make others into something they are not. You can't make it on leader or leader, and you can't make somebody a yeller who's not a yeller. Yeah, Profet.

This kind of critique that it has to be the quarterback who is, you know, the leader too, is like, I'm going to imagine the Ravens are nothing short of leaders on that offense. It just happens to be one of them, one of the vocal ones just isn't Lamar Jackson. Like, every football team, it's just very odd that it seems to be that we place this upon the quarter. I know why we do it, why the quarterback is the one that we always constantly look for the leader. But like, that Ravens offense has worked very well without such a leader because they have other leaders there right now. It's probably along the offensive line or, you know, a wide receiver that gets fired up or even a position. coach that gets fired up but I I it yeah I I'm with you it just kind of feels like this is a this is

an odd archetype to try to shove Lamar Jackson into if you can't do it you can't do it I just I also I think you you just have to find your way of leading yeah yeah that that's really what it is he's right you got to be you got to be verbal you got to be demanding but you have to you have to lead in your way I don't think you can be successful with your quarterback's not your leader or He's got to be your leader, especially as much money, attention, acclaim as he gets, you got to be a leader. That is the position. But in terms of yelling, getting on to guys, being verbal, I do think you need it, but I think you got to figure out how it fits your personality and the dynamic of your group. Not every group, not every year requires the same type or amount of leadership.

Let's get to Jason Stewart with the news. heard line news. Hello, Jason. Hello, Doug. So the Lakers have signed, they're bringing back Jackson Hayes. Big man, right? But he will obviously, what,

back up DeAndre Aiton. Big news for the Lakers this week, signing the former first overall pick, DeAndre Aiton. So what do you think about their situation in the post there, Doug? Well, Jackson Hayes fits more how Luca plays.

Luca wants to come off and he's a lob guy, but it doesn't feel like the Lakers love Jackson Hayes. So, yeah, I don't know what their deal is with him. DeAndre Aiton is a pretty talented fellow scoring the basketball, and he's good on pick and roll, but he's a catch on the roll and make a play sort of guy, and he's not really a rim protector defensively. So the first thing is those are two guys they're trying to find that fit with Luca Donchuk. That's what they'll go to.

But I don't think either make them a championship contender. And the biggest issue with Aiton is he's not a plus player defensively. And while you get away with that, when you have Luca, when you have LeBron, you have Austin Reeves, those are three minuses defensively. and in the NBA now

you can only maybe have one and he's still got to be really good around that person in the face lane. Over in Phoenix there's a report that the sons and Bradley Beale are discussing a buyout

two years, $110 million contract of the remaining contract. Bradley Beale I think gets a lot of negative attention. He wasn't available that much this past season but at 30, two years old, how valuable would he be on the market?

I think Bradley Beale is the classic best player on a bad team. Every bad, here's the expression in basketball. Every bad team has a leading score. What's that mean? It was really hard to tell. I've always liked Bradley Beale. Like Bradley Beale supposedly has like a 32 waist. Like the guy keeps himself in unbelievable shape.

Just a stud. And no matter how bad they were in Washington, Always professional. But he gets to the Sons, and it's been an abject disaster. And it leads you to think, like, yeah, it's the Damien Lillard thing, where people for years are like, get him out of there, get him on a championship team, get him on a better team, so his talents can get recognized.

Then you put him on a better team in. They're not nearly that good. That's where I think he is. Doug, lost him the whole Clayton Kirschall 3,000 strikeout the other night. like literally like a couple pitches before he got that 3,000 K, Max Muncie had a very scary situation at third base where he was covering a runner trying to steal third base and the replay shows that Max Muncie took a real shot to the knee.

The Dodgers feared the worst, but they actually got some pretty good news yesterday as there's no structural damage and they're probably going to be without them for several weeks. Muncie has been on a tear for the past three or four weeks. He will be missed. But good news for the Dodgers, it looks like he's going to be back by the end of the season. That is good news, but it was a scary one.

Every person who, like me, is a medical professional on social media. It's like, ooh, what do we think? What do we think that is? You start sending to your friends. Profit, I've never asked you, Jay Stu has answered this one. Three types of people in this world. You hear about an injury, you either don't want to see it ever. Don't show it to me, I don't care.

Type 2 is, I want to see it once just to catalog it, so I know what everybody's talking about. Type 3 is, I just put it on replay. I want to see it as many times as possible. Which one are you? I think I would state I am a type 1. However, I think the curiosity in me is so strong that I end up begrudgingly being a type 2. never admit openly of being the type 2 to people, but I will eventually just to get a frame of context about it. I do have bad luck in that I keep seeing a lot of these things live because I saw

Kevin Ware's injury live. I saw who is a UFC fighter? Oh, Anderson Silva. Specifically something about legs bothers me. If it's a leg injury, I try not to watch it as best I can just because there's something about a leg that just really does not work well. I mean, Jay Stu? What's that? I certainly do not want to watch those things. In fact, the other night, there was this thing that happened on the live broadcast where they didn't show the replay of it.

And then to make matters a little bit more scary, the broadcaster at the time said, we're not going to show the replay. We've decided as a production crew not to show the replay. So you're like, oh my gosh, did his leg fall off? So considering all the drama, again, And this diagnosis is pretty good news. The Dodgers have plenty to fill in. They even have a trade deadline to add, maybe an extra glove if they want it.

Personally, I wouldn't mind them seeing maybe giving Will Smith some reps at third, get them out from beyond home plate. But yeah, good news for the Dodgers here. Yeah, it's an escape for the Dodgers because it look worse. It look worse. And that's Jason Stewart with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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founding partner of i heart women's sports what up dog gotlebe in for calls heard fox sports radio i heart radio app mark steinnell join us next hour we'll talk about i mean does lebron legit want to be traded like Brian one horse kind of opened the door I think that was yesterday that's next hour on the show but in the meantime let's focus our attention on the NFL and it's a kind of a unique year I saw where you guys see where a manual out show predicted that this is going to be the beginning of a super bowlish streak from the jets now here's my issue and he did provide some substance to his argument. My issue is I get that

this is like the Tom Brady falloff that Max Kellerman and Rob Parker and others predicted and it never really came to fruition. Never really came to fruition.

He wasn't great his last year in Tampa, but he was good enough. His team wasn't very good. He was outstanding for the most part. I mean, had, look, even in Green Bay, when they beat the Packers, you know, that was that COVID year, half full stadium. He was bad in the second half, but spectacular in the first half. But my point is that calling somebody's career beginning the downward trend and decline

is not an unreasonable thing. And eventually somebody's going to be right if you make that prediction every year. But, I mean, every year Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback of the Chiefs, they've at minimum reached the AFC championship game. so it's not like you've got to be flogged for saying it but don't tell me you're pregnant show me the baby you know if you don't think they're going through a super bowl that's fine they may not you may end up right j stew and i are charger fans hardcore but there's not one moment of any day in which either of us if you said hey gun to your head you got to put your

salary or even a monthly salary on a team to win the AFC West that we would pick anybody other than the Kansas Chiefs. Is that fair, Jay Sto? Yeah, no, no doubt. That's fair. All right, more football talk. Let's welcome in Mark Dominic. Good friend of my show, the Doug Gottlieb show, of course, General Manager of the Tampa Buccaneers. He spent his entire professional life in the NFL scouting in the front offices and now appearing with us in the herd on Fox Sports Radio. help me understand why we'll get to the Steelers on the whole and maybe that's what it's related to,

but why not extend T.J. what? Well, I think you want to because I still believe there's a lot of good football inside of them. It might be more of a Steelers mentality of like how they negotiate. You know, Omar Khan, the general manager there came from obviously the salary cap side and Pittsburgh has been notoriously a little trickier to negotiate with. And I, I think that's part of it. And I think what Pittsburgh's going to have to do if they don't extend them, which I think they should, I think it's very reasonable. I mean, the number's astronomical, even at his age.

But I think he's got at least two years, one plus two, so three more years of him at, I think, a 10 plus sack type of performance. So it's just a matter of, you know, understanding the dynamics of how you could structure. The only other thing Pittsburgh can do is really sweetened up this year's deal with a lot of incentives to say, hey, look, play this one out. go hit free agency, find out what you're worth. We won't franchise tag you. That's the only other way.

I think you'll get to the right spot. Okay. You look at what they've done. Aaron Rogers is like, yeah, probably my last year. They go and trade for Gell and Ramsey. They go and make some moves. It's, for the, for the Steelers, this is kind of an all-in approach, right? Whereas they've been kind of a picture of consistency, and that's their usual approach.

Do you like what they put in place if this is just a one-year run? to try and, you know, take a shout of the Super Bowl. I like it. I don't love it. There's a couple things that really make me nervous about the Steelers. Number one, and I hate to say it, but, you know, Broder Jones, their first rounder back in 23, is going to have to carry a lot of weight, meaning, you know, he has been up and down when he's been on the field, and I'm worried that Aaron Rogers is going to feel a lot of pressure from the left side.

I think that's a big stretch there that they've got to deal with. I think center, guard, and right tackle, they're in great shape. You know, Jono Smith is going to bring them a little more speed with fire move, so I appreciate that. You know, they've got some veteran receivers there, but they don't have a lot of depth at wide receiver. So there's, you know, it would be important for Roman Wilson, you know, get on the field this year and see what he can do. I think it does come down to T.J. Watt. As much as I think Aaron can lift his team, the problem is, you've got to have Watt on the football field,

and you still have Cincinnati and you still have the Ravens. And so, yeah, you could push, and I think that's what they're thinking. It's like how do we get over that hump? Because if we can win our division, we got a chance to go to the Super Bowl. Right now I still see Pittsburgh is up 10 to maybe 11-win season type of team, but I don't think they're good enough overall to surpass where the Ravens are. Yeah. There's a story out there where Lamar Jackson, he actually told Kevin Hart, like, hey, I've got to be more vocal.

I got to get better at that. I've got to be more of a focal leader. From my perspective, I don't think you could make somebody who's not a vocal leader into a vocal leader. Am I, you've been around this long time. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. I think you either are or you're not. You know, you lead by example and work ethic or you can vocally lead people because you know the right thing to say at the right time.

There's one thing that there's a need to be more vocal. But it's, I think the vocal leaders that are really good know exactly what to say. I mean, how many times have we watched Ray Lewis pre-game speech and you're like, that guy nailed it? He's just like that guy. That's a really great pregame speaker. And so you see different guys have that. And that's why things like, why do scouts go to practice when you can watch everything on tape? Well, because you can see how a guy is a leader.

Like, why do we like the East West Shrine? Why do we like the Senior Bowl? Because we get to see guys in leadership roles and see how they do that. Is it natural to them? And so all that's part of the evaluation process. But I agree, I think it's a lot harder for somebody. I don't think you can. I shouldn't say it's a lot harder.

I don't think you can become the sudden. this vocal leader because I just don't think it's natural. That's why you haven't been like that since the beginning. What's your take on Jordan Love? And I ask that because you and I, we've talked weekly here for the last couple years. I was surprised when they extended him despite kind of a limited sample size maybe to the extent that they paid him. The numbers were astronomical in terms of touchdowns, but there was a string of turnovers and he is inexperienced and is relatively young and didn't have a number one wide receiver

but they also didn't play well in division games uh they won one division game and that's on a on a botch special teams play by the bears a couple years into being a starter where are you on jordan love well i would sit there and i know at the end of the season they had a couple really, really tough losses by a couple points there like you just mentioned. And I think that was certainly kind of what hurt them through the whole season. But I think when I look at Jordan Love, I have been impressed even more than I think I was originally going to be. I'll be candid. I saw a good player, but I didn't think he would be this level. Yeah, I know last year may not have been, you know, his best in completions and yards and touchdowns, etc. But I still believe

in him in terms of how good he is with the touchdown interception race. And that's a critical thing. And I know it seems so simplistic, but look at the Trevor Lawrence is the world. Look at the guys that really struggle in this area. And Jordan Love hasn't. And some of that might be system, but he's still got to make good decisions. I think the Packers are a much better football team. You know, I think overall, I think they're going to be right there with Detroit in terms of battling for the division title.

And I don't see any reason why Jordan Love is going to take any more of a, quote, quote, step back. I certainly, you know, believe that a couple things that are going to happen for him this year. Number one, you talked about it. Matthew Golden is on the roster. that's going to be another big weapon for him. That's going to be important. But number two is Luke Musgrave will be back. And I think that they missed having Tucker Kraft and Musgrave in formations out on the field.

That really hurt them. And so I think that's going to be another big piece for them of why they're going to be a better team. And I think it's also going to be better on defense, you know, because they're more familiar now with obviously Jeff Hapley in the system and getting more and more concise and set in that role. So I like this team. You know, I think they're going to battle Detroit.

I don't think it's a slam dunk Detroit wins this division. think the Green Bay Packers are right there. All right. We are on calling show. I got 30 seconds. Are you a buyer into the new Caleb Williams? The year two, new coach, more offensive weapons around to Caleb Williams. I think we're going to see a consistent, I think we're going to see a lot of the same

Caleb Williams we saw last year. I think it's going to be good, but I don't think it's going to go to the next level. All right. All right. That's Mark, Mark, have a great fourth. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks for being our guest. Great talk.

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