The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 – Dysfunctional Bears & Deion’s Impact

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox explain how the Bears firing HC Matt Eberflus is a sign of their dysfunctional organization. Heisman Watch is underway live as Travis Hunter and Ashton Jeantypad their s...tats while the guys are on air. Deion Sanders' transformation of the Colorado program means so much to college football, but can it be replicated? Plus, Tom Brady rips Daniel Jones on the Thanksgiving broadcast. #2ProsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 We were wondering, all right, here on a Black Friday. Dang, how'd you say it? What type of Friday? Black Friday. or as Rob Parker would say What would he say? And by the way, this is Robinized jokes so everybody's clear.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Oh no. As Rob Parker would say. What are your main Black Friday? Well, I don't know about you, but every Friday's Black Friday for me. Oh my gosh. Which I have to, I owe him a text later because that's our yearly tradition.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But we were waiting to see whether or not there was going to be any news out of the NFL following the games yesterday. We've got another one coming up later on that we're going to get into. to the Raiders and the Chiefs at some point. And the news is not great for Matt Eberflus. He was fired by the Chicago Bears less than an hour ago after that disaster of a performance
Starting point is 00:04:17 by the Bears towards the end of that game against the Detroit Lions yesterday. So the first time in the history of the franchise, the Bears are firing a head coach in season. And here's the best part about that whole story. What's the best part? Gee, there's the best part? How about the fact that they let Matt Eber Fluse do a zone? Zoom call with the media and then
Starting point is 00:04:39 fired him after the Zoom call with the media. Well, we're in showbiz. We're in show biz. They tell you, let them finish the show before you let them go. They're going to fire you before the show even though you got one more show to do. He shows up. They're going to hit you after you're done.
Starting point is 00:04:57 He shows up to talk to the media on the Zoom call and the media's like, are you planning on being the coach and Matt Iberflux says, yeah, listen, I'm I'm planning. Operations are normal. I'm going to be the head coach as we get ready for San Francisco. And then like an hour and a half later, the Bears are like, hey, Matt, you got a second?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah. Riverside. Riverside. Look. You can get an early start on your holiday gift shopping, your vacation time. Like, you know, we're going to go in a different direction. Heck, man. I mean, Keenan Allen, I thought had the most telling statement following the game.
Starting point is 00:05:35 yesterday when he said the following, I felt like we as players put ourselves in a position to win. As players. When you separate that from. Not us as a team. Us as players. Malik neighbors probably saw that and went like, damn, that's pretty good. I should use that the next time I air out the organization or my head coach.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But it's just not a great situation. It wasn't a great situation. and now the conversation becomes where do you where do you turn to next and look jim harbaugh wanted the job last year like that's mean like everybody's known that like that's one of his that was one of his spots yeah because they they drafted him they and so that was an opportunity and now they're going to be looking to try and bring somebody else in and they're going to go with thomas brown the oc there i just you hope and we talked a little bit with albert brier about this last hour like you would hope that they don't do the whole well last coach was a defensive coach now we're
Starting point is 00:06:39 going to do an offensive coach and now we're going to but it just feels like with this organization and you've talked about it with the Jets dysfunction is your MVP dysfunction and there is dysfunction you cannot outperform dysfunction I would challenge anyone who's listening to us have a conversation how many times have you seen in an organization, a business, a relationship, anything, anything that you want to take a look at of real substance that you're looking for an ROI on it, whether it be love, whether it be revenue, you know, money, whatever it is, where have you ever seen success and skill and talent and even love, whatever it may. when have you ever seen it outperform dysfunction and and I listen I lived in it as as a player and you start to try to make sense of it it's almost like an abusive relationship when you're in a place that is so dysfunctional because there's there's two ways of looking at it one is self preservation so you don't subscribe to all of the elements that play a part and what that
Starting point is 00:07:58 dysfunction is and you stay to yourself, you do your job to the best of your ability and you try to keep that healthy amount of distance and space between where the dysfunction is coming from. But that doesn't help to cure or solve the dysfunction and you're not going to get that person's best foot forward in those situations. It's just not going to happen. Then there's the other side of it where it's like, and you may have heard this before, I can fix it. that's the biggest
Starting point is 00:08:30 the biggest one right is they need me this job needs me this team needs me this this relationship needs me whatever it is I can fix it and and that to me is where it goes so wrong and it has that
Starting point is 00:08:46 it has that abusive feel it's like why didn't you leave why didn't you say anything because I thought I could fix it and you know what it has always been Defeated. Disfunction has always been undefeated. You cannot get positive results. You can't get positive outcomes if there is dysfunction at the level that we see it at with some of these organizations. It's just not possible. So you can't sit there and say you're confused or you're surprised that this is what happened or you already know if you can look at an organization. like the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's a dysfunctional organization. I don't care who you have as a coach. I don't care who you draft as the players. I don't care who you get as free agencies as the players. It's going to be a miss. Some way, somehow there's going to be a miss. So my challenge or what my sentiments would be when you look at what the beers have done and they've been dysfunctional for some time now,
Starting point is 00:09:57 but now you have Hope and Caleb Williams as a franchise guy. My challenge would be as an organization, as an owner of the organization, as the leads of the organization, you have to take a look at what your culture is. And at the top, you have to address what the dysfunctional aspects and components of what you bring to the table, the Dallas Cowboys. even right now with an organization that's been so historically amazing in the New York Giants, they got to take a look at what that dysfunction has become and the culture that is created on the way down all the way to your players that are going on the field. I'm watching it take place in Washington right now where there is a collective idea and body and belief that from the top, if they can change the culture of what this organization is,
Starting point is 00:10:55 from ownership and bring excitement and bring hope and bring belief and buy-in and a connection to not only your employees within the building and the players, but also with the community itself in a very real way, you can indeed change the culture of it. It doesn't happen overnight, doesn't happen quickly, but you can change the culture. These teams, the biggest issues are at the top and they're not being addressed because well, why would you address yourself? Sometimes that's the hardest thing to do is to find yourself in a situation
Starting point is 00:11:32 where you have to address yourself and you'll find out which one of these, you know, which teams are doing that. Seems like Detroit did that. Like, hands off. Yep. We let Dan Campbell come in. He came in with a very, very defined vision
Starting point is 00:11:49 of what he wanted the culture of this organization to be on down to its players. And it's changed. Here in L.A. with the Chargers. Seems as though they brought in a guy in Harbaal. They trust what his vision is. They trust how he wants the culture to be. And they've allowed him to do it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And you can see it in the players and how they play. You can see it in the results. And then that carries over. Look at the fan base and how it's growing for this Detroit Lions team. There's a overflow. They travel. Come on, man. And by the way, you call, and I always reference this because I think it's important.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You called a Lions Browns game when Dan Campbell was there his first year. And that ended up being Baker Mayfield's last year, I believe. And so there's a lot in that conversation. But I always, I'm fascinated by that because that was really the beginning of, listen, we're building something. Everybody laughed at Dan Campbell. Everybody had all. Bight them kneecaps on the way back up. Racing helmets.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And he does double venty red eyes. He does two a day. And like all these guys just like, oh, he's one of these other guys. And then you've just slowly seen they build, they build, they draft well. Jared Goffs completely, you know, rejuvenated his career. He's playing the best football potentially of his career. And this is the guy who went to a Super Bowl once. Like this idea that if the bears think that, all right, we got rid of Matt Eberfluse,
Starting point is 00:13:26 all right, now everything's going to be good here. Dude, they've, since the 1985 bears, they've won six playoff games. That was 40 years ago. Like, this is not just a Matt Eberfluse's problem. To your point, it rolls downhill. At some point, it's been going on a long-ass time. At some point, when you look at these dysfunctional organ. you see the long laundry list of major names that have been brought in, whether it's a coach or whether it's a player.
Starting point is 00:13:59 You see this long list. And the results generally may vary just a little bit. Maybe this coach didn't make the playoffs. This coach didn't make the playoffs. I mean, look at what's going on in Miami. Is that dysfunction or not? I don't really know, which means that it probably is. Maybe the clock has struck midnight on Mike McDaniel
Starting point is 00:14:22 and now he's turning into a pumpkin because that was not the look of a get. Like we said, this team is really good with Tua. Tua goes out there not really a good team. But now we got Tua back. They go ours because it's cold. Can't be because it's cold. A lot of them guys didn't have no sleeves on their arms. It didn't look like it was cold enough where you couldn't get out there
Starting point is 00:14:41 and do what you needed to do. It just didn't look good. When you look at these teams and they bring in a different coach, different coach, different coach, different coach, different players, different players. But you're seeing the same results? Like they hit the same ceilings? Like whether it be the record, whether it be the amount of accomplishment, did they make it to the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Did they not? Did they win a divisional title? What are they? When you look at these teams, it be the same exact ones, changing coaches, changing players, and getting the same results. They get the same exact results. You could get mad at media for calling it out, calling it what they think it is, calling it what it may be. The bottom line is if you are paying attention to your organization and your organization is giving you, it's like meeting a person, right?
Starting point is 00:15:32 If a person shows you who they are, you should believe them. If an organization shows you who they are, you should believe them. There's no reason as a fan to sit there and say, because I'm a fan of this team, I can look at it and it comes out and it plays out differently. That's not correct. If they've proven to you that this is how they do things, this is the way things go, you know, you guys are acting like, oh, when I was talking about the Jets, like the Jets won't win 10 games. I said the Jets will not do double-digit wins because the dysfunction is so high in New York that they will not make it to 10 wins, not because they don't have the talent. I meant 10 wins over the span of two seasons. So, like, just to be clear.
Starting point is 00:16:15 That might be a stretch too. That might not be a stretch too. All I'm saying is, a pre-season games count. Why expect that Aaron Rogers is going to be the catalyst of change in a dysfunctional organization? And now you found out, now you figured out that that is not the case. The Bears fired Lovie Smith after he went 10 and 6.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Like they fired him after he went 10 and 6. Remember how everybody, and I know this, people in Chicago couldn't wait to get rid of Matt Nagy. They couldn't, he had to go. He had no idea what he was doing. He's ruining this organization. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:16:57 He finished with a winning record and he took him to the playoffs twice. You know, we've done a lot of media and a lot of radio. The one thing that is funny to me is being successful, there's levels to it and there's degrees of it. And a lot of times, people aren't having. happy with real success. They're not happy with real success. They have this delusion or this just maybe not living in reality of what a 10-win season represents, what a winning season represents.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You look at, you know, the conversations that we've had historically on, two pros in a cup of Joe that you can catch, by the way, Eastern Standard Time at 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. We are filling in for Colin Cowherst. That's Jonas Knox. I'm LeVore Arrington. Hell, yeah. The one thing that we have discussed and have really talked about is in the college ranks, right? And I know it's different than the league, but in the college ranks, you'll have a day at Ohio State, and he's under fire, and he's undefeated.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It's like, wait, hold on, what happened? Loses to Oregon, ah, he's got to go. He's got to go. You lose one game, you lose the Michigan, now he's got to go. Oh, to Ohio State fans. means that he's got to go because that's the game that counts. Yeah, but what about all the other games that he's winning? You know when those games count, Jonas, when he starts losing them?
Starting point is 00:18:23 They don't matter now because, oh, he's 11 and 0. He's 12 and 0. He gets the 12 and 1. Got to fire him. Franklin and Penn State. First season, and who knows how long that they went undefeated on the road. They have no road losses. they have one loss at home
Starting point is 00:18:46 and not one loss because it's to Ohio State it's like he can't win the big game it's the Big Ten their strength of schedule they don't play anybody die die die this that it's the Big Ten they're playing against the same teams that are in the conference that everybody else is playing against
Starting point is 00:19:01 and people have a problem with it when he loses one game while it is the one big game it still is delusional to think that you should just expect a coach and a team to win that much. So sometimes you get what you want,
Starting point is 00:19:20 but then you don't get what you really, like in your mind, I wanted us to be undefeated. I wanted us to go to the Super Bowl. I wanted us to go to the championship. I wanted us to win it. There's only one team that can do it. And in the league, if you ain't cheering for Kansas City, you haven't really had enough.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Imagine being a Ravens fan. How close are you? Imagine being a Bills fan. How close are you? But yet, how far away are you? So I don't know. Dysfunction, they'll get rid of you. Functional, you start to find it, you get better.
Starting point is 00:19:55 So to me it says that the Buffalo Bills is a functional organization. You know why? Because they're very close. And yet they continue. I thought they hit their ceiling. They didn't hit their ceiling. They looked like they're getting better. So that's a functional organization.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I always defended when, you know, the bang, you know, or, you know, looking around and they're looking at coaches and they're, you know, trying to decide whether or not they want to keep Marvin Lewis. And I always defended Marvin Lewis for this because they're like, oh, I can't want a playoff game. Yeah, but they're there every year. I mean, that's what's going on in Pittsburgh right now. People be wanting Mike Tomlin out of there. Every year.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You've got a shot. It's a functional organization. They're competitive every year. Whether you thought they were frauds or not, they are in it. every single year. In the conversation for the AFC North, and they're in the conversation for what can they do in the playoffs every single year. But yet, it's not good enough. You got to, you got to be realistic on what you want your ROI to be as a fan. And I think that's what it ultimately comes down to. So it is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVaray, Errington,
Starting point is 00:21:03 Jonas Knox, in for Colin. Just to catch you up to speed again, the breaking news in the NFL from earlier, the Bears firing Matt Eber Fluse's head coach, the offensive coordinator, Thomas Brown will take over on the interim basis for the remainder of the season. Coming up next year, though, we are going to tell you how somebody finally decided, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough playing nice. I'm going to go ahead and let it fly a little bit during an NFL game. You'll hear from them right here on FSR.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
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Starting point is 00:24:45 I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. Man, he running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:25:44 for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Ferrell. They called to his fellow officer for the nippers. What are the nippers? Very good question. No, I was thinking, would that be a good name for like a salad dressing? Simple assault. And it's a play on word, salt? Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I say we invest and we see. There's only one way to know. This did not amuse the cops. By the way, normally the cops are amused, but this did not abuse the cops. Will even comes clean about some of his own crimes. I didn't get caught. You know why? If you don't want to be suspected of anything, you whistle as you walk. Listen to crime lists on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:26:59 we are going to have another edition of the Hurdline News starring the great Lee DeLap, who you know it's a special occasion. Lee's got a button-up shirt. He's got his jays on. Like, Lee's all ready to go, man. Looks good. Oh, yeah, not the oyster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Not the blue oyster bar. Lee, you look great, man. Dang. Thanks, guys. Yeah, spruce it up when we're... I know about that one, right? When we're in daylight. Yeah. That's how y'all feeling?
Starting point is 00:27:27 That's where you head and out that you eat from here? So we'll hear more from Lee during the herd line news coming up here and about... Will you shed them jeans for some backlist chaps? Damn. Hey, by the way, we got a we got we got a Heisman watch going on. We got Travis Hunter and Colorado taking on Oklahoma State. They've got a 21-0-0 lead, and you've got Ashton Genty and Boise State up 14-7 over Oregon State right now. Hunter almost came down with a crazy one-hand catch.
Starting point is 00:28:04 They flipped him up a little bit. Gentie, I believe, has one touchdown so far. I think he went in, took one in short. But I don't know what he. his what his rushing yards are right now. His stats are, but it's interesting because I know Coach Prime is aware of how close the race is and the fact that Travis Hunter was not a finalist for the Thorpe Award. Sorry to Ashungentie, 21 carries, 106 yards, and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Not quite at halftime. That's not good for Travis Hunter or Colorado phase. 100 and it's not even had time yet. Do you think there's still a chance? I know Travis Hunter is a touchdown catch in this game against Oklahoma State right now. But do you actually think there's a chance that Ashton Genty could beat him out for the high? I don't think there's any chance at all. I think it's over.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I think Gentie can get it because I think you can't hide stats for running back. It's not a hideable, a hideable stat. If he continues to run at the pace, like, if he's out 100 yards right now, what does he end up with? Like, 150, 160? The odds on draft kings right now, Travis Hunter is a minus 3,500. I mean, I think he's the best college football player in America. I've made that very clear. I made it abundantly clear that if I were a voter, I would vote for Travis Hunter.
Starting point is 00:29:34 But with that being said, you got to keep in mind. I go back to a time where, okay, I thought Peter Warwick was the best football player I've ever seen in my life. That's like pre-Reggy Bush. It was like Peter Warwick and then came Reggie Bush. He wasn't up for any awards. Now, granted, it's a different situation because he got in a little bit of trouble. But with that being said, if you're looking at Heisman best player, Ron Dang got it that year. And Ron Dan got it because stats are stats.
Starting point is 00:30:06 That man broke the NCAA rushing title with the amount of yards that he ended up running for that year. And it automatically made him a shoe-in to win the Heisman. I feel like Genti is like, when have we heard a player get compared to Barry Sanders since Barry Sanders played in college? I don't think I've ever heard it. I don't think I've ever heard anybody get compared. Maybe Ledanyan, LT. That might be the only one that I heard in terms of what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:30:36 statistically that would lead to them being discussed in the same breath as Barry Sanders. And Ashton Genti is that player this year for college football. So to me, I think that it's a great conversation. I'll say this, I don't know definitively who's going to walk in there and walk away with the trophy. Oh, I think it's over. I think it's over. I think Travis, and I don't even think the voting will be close. Like if Ashton Genti, like if you were to bet on Ashton Genti to win the Heisman right now, $10 would win you a solar
Starting point is 00:31:06 system. Like there's no chance anybody other than Travis Hunter wins the Heisman. But you know, I mean he does also have a bigger platform. I mean Colorado. That's why my point on Colorado is this. I really, we've talked about it on the show
Starting point is 00:31:21 before. I just hope people know how much fun the last two seasons have been and how good they've been for college football. Because of Dion Sanders in Colorado. I mean the other storylines in college football. But the fact that Colorado's back on the app is awesome. He put a
Starting point is 00:31:38 video up on his social yesterday. It was a throwback Thursday. And it was when him and Shador and Bossy, his daughter, when they
Starting point is 00:31:53 ended up, you know, they came to visit Boulder. They came to the stadium and was visiting it and they were showing what it looked like, like their hair. Like just arrived, this, that, and the other. And it just showed the looks on their faces, on Chador's faces, on Coach Prime's faces while they were on the field. I thought it was interesting, man, because you take a subtle, you know, calm, you know, solitary moment where it's just the family that's there on the field.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And they're looking at this place that has been dormant. You know, you haven't talked about Colorado and the way that they've talked about Colorado. Well, and ever, actually. but this was a team that was once a story team. I mean, from the Daryan Hagan days to Rishon Salam and Cordell Stored and Charles Johnson and Michael Westbrook, I mean, there was a standard that was created and generated. You know, Chad Brown on defense.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I mean, you know, Dion figures. I mean, there was a lot of really, really talented guys that played for this Colorado team that made Colorado. that made Colorado a destinational place not only to play but it was a destination to make sure that you watch them play. They lost that.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And whether you like Dion Sanders as a person or not, the one thing that you cannot deny is that he brought something, he brought a value to Colorado as a coach that they've never seen before. And I would venture to say possibly has never been seen before
Starting point is 00:33:30 at the college. college level. Now, that doesn't mean that equates to it being a national title, but it could. That doesn't mean that it's like, oh, well, what about, what about, you know, Nick Saban or, you know, your coach, what about Joe Paterno? What about Bobby Bowden? Absolutely iconic figures. Coach Robinson at Gremlin, absolutely some of the most historical names you can throw out there and say, in those generations what they represented, no one else could match what they were. Is Dion Sanders as a coach on that trajectory?
Starting point is 00:34:10 I don't know. But out the gate, you have a quarterback that happens to be your son that will most likely be the number one overall pick in the draft. You have most likely the next Heisman winner on your team as well. And it's not even your player that's going to go number one in the draft.
Starting point is 00:34:32 You sell out, you're sold out. You have generated countless amounts of revenue for the state and the university. Tuition, it's all paid, increased it a little bit. Everybody is benefiting from the Dion Sanders effect. As Blenders, as KFC. Yeah. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:54 He just launched the show. He's got a show on, what is it, Tooby? What is it? Foodie? Tovie. Dude is out here and he is totally And what's interesting is It's not
Starting point is 00:35:08 It's not a framework That can be It can be repeated. It's not. This is a caught the tiger by the tail. It's lightning in a bottle. Whatever you want to call it. Eddie George just got named
Starting point is 00:35:25 Coach of the year where he's coaching. It doesn't even begin. begin to come close to what the title wave effect that Dion Sanders had. They're talking about hiring Ray Lewis down in Florida. It will not come close, not even close to what Dion Sanders has done. Won't even come close. For one, Dion Sanders understands the entertainment value of what goes into what he's doing. For one, no one has ever really been as good as him.
Starting point is 00:35:54 No one's been that good at doing it. And he's able to recreate it. and two, he's actually a good coach. And he went through the process. I don't know Ray Lewis's coaching history. Back in Florida. I don't think that he's coached that much. I think he's done a lot and he means a lot to the game.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I don't know how much he coach. Eddie George, I don't know how much he coach. How many names are we going to throw out there and that we're going to say this is a former player that has the brand name? I mean, the fact that it's even attempting to be copied is such a compliment to Dionne Sanders. It's like all the Sean McVeigh guys. Like, oh, well, he worked with Sean McVeigh.
Starting point is 00:36:35 That's such a compliment to Sean McVeigh. 100%. And it's not going to be replicated. And there were so many people who wanted to see them fail. When they got off to that hot start last year, and it was like, oh, who were they playing? Oh, and then they started to struggle down the stretch, and they struggled against Colorado State. And, like, people just couldn't wait to see them fail. And that was the expectation.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And then you saw how the game played out against Nebraska. And you're like, oh, it looks like typical Colorado, Dion. And they've just gotten better and better and better. And yeah, last week was not a great look and not a great performance. They lost. They lost. It's college football. And he's still building. And also, the Big 12, who the hell can figure out the Big 12?
Starting point is 00:37:18 Kansas is clipping people left and right. And they've got five wins. That team won one game when Deon took. it over. They were a one-win team. They won how many more games? They won like three or four last year, I believe. Something to that effect. Wasn't that many. They won games last year.
Starting point is 00:37:37 But it wasn't, they were nowhere near 500. And where they are today, where Colorado football is today with their record, with the amount of clout that their players are receiving and the recognition, the way the offensive front is playing, they established a running attack this year, Their defense line is totally transformed.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You bring in a great football mind and Warren Sapp. Nobody else would have took a shot on Warren Sapp. You keep seeing Terrell Owens on Terrell on the sideline with them. I would not be shocked or surprised if you end up seeing Terrell Owens being a coach on this coaching staff. I want to see that Warren. They just brought in, they brought in George Hageman, who is. If you know who George Higman is, the offensive lineman played for the Dallas Cowboys, look him up.
Starting point is 00:38:25 one of the dopest dudes that you'll ever meet and has been a major, major, major piece to the success that IMG Academy was is and were having in Florida while he was there. So the people that Dion has brought in, first and foremost, you've got to be in this world to know who they are. If you're living in it,
Starting point is 00:38:51 Dion has met so many people from the time he did, truth from the youth level. Dion then did truth the high school and met a ton of people on that level. Not to mention all the while he's in media and he's building his brand and he's showing you. He's building his credibility in terms of
Starting point is 00:39:10 what he understands of the game, how he views the game by giving you insight and commentary and analyzing the games and what's going on and what's taking place. So you know Dion understands the game. But what a lot of people fail to realize is Dion went through the process. He executed the process perfectly.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And he'll tell you, I built my plan for my life around my children. So I don't care what his motivation was. His motivation was that he wanted to be there for his kids and be there with them growing up. Great. The bottom line is that trusting, building the process of being there with his kids, the whole entire way has led to him being a hell of a coach. He's got a hell of a staff that's been with him since they were at the youth level. So you're talking about 12, 13, 14, 15 plus years that the bulk of his coaching staff has been together.
Starting point is 00:40:12 It's not a surprise that he's getting the results that he's getting and he will continue to get him. He's connected to a scouting service. You don't even want to get into all of that. He's connected to directly to a scouting service that helps choose the All-Americans for the Under Armour game. He's got a great relationship with them. Look them up, three-step. He has done it the right way. He knows how to get to the athletes.
Starting point is 00:40:37 He knows what they want. His cachet and what he brings to the table is good enough. And now he's winning. So you take all that, you have a perfect storm. You will not be able to replicate or recreate. that if you're trying to do that, you are going to come grossly, grossly short of what it is that Colorado has been able to create. And I think that that's why he's going to stay at Colorado because he has the keys to the kingdom.
Starting point is 00:41:04 He can continue to build that kingdom. And I would not be surprised if this is a college playoff team that in the next three to five years will actually be able to compete and contend in the playoff to possibly win a championship for Colorado. It's the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Erington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. Coming up next here in the herd line news, you're going to hear somebody in the NFL who just said, you know what, I'm sick of this.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Tired of playing it nice, tired of playing it safe. I'm going to go ahead and air somebody out, and they did it just yesterday. You'll hear the sound, you'll hear the proof, and it's yours here next on FSR. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers,
Starting point is 00:41:47 and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our. own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we, how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 00:42:07 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
Starting point is 00:42:27 where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS.
Starting point is 00:43:36 All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that Ness was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How hard can it be? How can't be naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard, you know? Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public.
Starting point is 00:44:14 How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva as part of My Cultura Podcast Network available on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:44:54 he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court licking his fingers while he got the ball like, After you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit third. You shouldn't have to share one with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing
Starting point is 00:45:48 to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health. These are real honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:46:04 During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food. Because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just ideas. their practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:46:24 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We're right here. We ain't going anywhere. Yeah. Bring it what. We're right here. It's the herd on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Earrington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You like that? You like my DMX? Uh-huh. Bring it what. We're right here. Coming up top of next hour, a little over 10 minutes from now. We are going to get into more conversation. The details still coming out on the breaking news from the NFL. Last hour we talked here on the show.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Matt Eberfluse, fired by the Chicago Bears. Thomas Brown, the offensive coordinator, will be the interim head coach. you know, good for him. He just got the job as OC about, you know, 15 minutes ago. So now he's the head coach all of a sudden. About 15, 20 minutes ago? Boy, that's a quick climb. Let me look at my watch. That's a quick climb up the coaching ranks. Dang. Jesus. But we'll have more on that coming up. Top of next hour here. Right now, it is time for another edition of this. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News.
Starting point is 00:47:39 All right, lead to lap. What are we got? All right, guys, if you were watching that Cowboys' Giants game on Fox yesterday. You might have heard Tom Brady having a little criticism for what went down between Daniel Jones and the Giants. Take a listen. I don't know how the whole situation went down, but to think that you would ask for a release from a team that committed a lot to you is maybe different than I would have handled
Starting point is 00:48:00 that. I always felt I wanted to get to trust and respect to my teammates, regardless of situation, knowing that I was trying to do the best I could for the team because that was the most important thing. There's just some different things that happened in the NFL and everyone. makes individual choices and I think we're all at points in our career or face different challenges. I faced them in college and some things didn't go the way I wanted, but the people that mattered most to me were the guys in the locker room. I showed up every day. I don't care if they
Starting point is 00:48:27 ask me to be scout team safety, be scout team quarterback. I was going to do whatever I could to help the team win. How about that? You know, Tom Brady's too nice. He's not being critical enough of players and he basically just calls out Daniel Jones and says, I don't know if I would have made that move. I would have been loaded to my teammates I don't know man I have my opinions
Starting point is 00:48:48 I love Tom as a player do I love him in the booth I don't know that I'm at love him in the booth Is he okay Does he have potential What about the criticism of Daniel Jones
Starting point is 00:49:05 Wanting his release I just think sometimes It's the messenger That that matters in moments like those. When did Tom Brady really struggle in the league? When did he struggle? Last year in New England.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Okay. The end. Yeah. And what happened? They moved on. And so did he. Yeah. They moved on.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I don't think, like, you look at the beginning, you know, to the end. Like, sure, if you're winning Super Bowls and your team is winning and you're having success and they've invested in you. Like I could see his theory and his, you know, his thought process. I don't have a problem with that. But I think when you're losing and when things go a certain way and behind the closed doors of what those conversations look like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I don't know that it's a, it's that cut and dry. They clowned Daniel Jones on television, on hard knocks, like multiple times. So he probably got to him where he's like, man, I don't want to be here. I'll go be a backup in Minnesota. Like I'll go elsewhere. Like, let me get elsewhere. If you guys don't want me so bad that you're going to make these comments to where everybody can see on hard knocks.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And we're going to continue to have these discussions and rumors are going to be out there about benchings and quarterbacks. They want to draft and all that. It's like, I just got to get out of here. And he just decided I need to go. And I think I wonder also, too, if guys like Baker Mayfield and Gino, Smith have given players like Daniel Jones hope to where it used to be if you were a quarterback that was drafted to be the franchise quarterback and it didn't work out with the team that you were drafted by that the thought was that you were going to, the thought you were a class
Starting point is 00:50:59 sack. The thought was that your career was basically on borrowed time. You were going to have to go be a backup somewhere and that's just the way that you're career is going to go because the book was written on you. And then all of a sudden, guys like Baker Mayfield and Gino Smith are like, no, no, no, there's life after this if you find the right spot. Baker Mayfield's
Starting point is 00:51:19 one of the better quarterbacks in the NFC, if not the NFL playing this year. Sam Darnold. And Gino Smith got paid. Yes, Sam Darnold. It can happen. It can happen. But then you also could have the Tom Brady effect, as we were talking about, and
Starting point is 00:51:34 end up being an Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers thought that he was going to do what Tom Brady did. Russell Wilson thought that he was going to do what Tom Brady did. Neither one of those guys, as good as they had been and as brilliant as they were where they came from, they weren't able to recapture that anywhere else. So, I mean, Russ is doing okay right now,
Starting point is 00:51:56 but by no means is he like, that guy. He's like, oh my gosh, what a resurgence or reemergence of Russell. It's like, it's okay. What do you need? What do I mean? What do I mean? They got a Russell Wilson sandwich at P-Mans. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yeah, they do. That's probably getting more yardage than he is. Shads out to the P-Man. By the way, you go to Permanagh's when you go to State College? I don't know that I'll have enough time. I would like to get me a big fish, though. I'll probably get me a big fish. You know, Lee and I shared one at P-Mand.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah, you guys shared a sandwich or stuff. Yeah, you did. I got boneless wings while I was at P-B. Yeah, you did. By the way, what a douche. move. I realize. It's more I think about the more embarrassed I am. Oh my gosh. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well,
Starting point is 00:53:00 sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an
Starting point is 00:53:27 a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast, Point Game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was part of you. You just understood.
Starting point is 00:53:57 That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that Game 7, Marquis keep coming to him. He's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the I Heart Reef. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest. When I did podcasts, I wear my sleep masks. I like what this is going.
Starting point is 00:54:20 So if you guys will indulge me. That's right, the incredibly talented and hilarious Will Ferrell on an episode dedicated to crimes committed by people named Will Ferrell. You're good for 300 crimes? Yeah. We got two. I'm ready to go right up. to present day.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Therapy is fantastic, but once again, it does not have a monopoly on healing. That's why I create the resources and that's why I create the community because I really just want you to have more access. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. It's tough because we're suppressing our emotions and so many of us are like high
Starting point is 00:55:06 achieving individuals. listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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