The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Feeling bad for Lamar Jackson, Matt Hasselbeck

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Breaking down where Colin was right and wrong from the football weekend, plus new signings for the Dodgers - anyone can defer money!  Former NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck joins Colin to discuss the NFL Divisional Round and how turnovers sank teams.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to The Heard podcast. Hour two, Matt Hasselbeck, five minutes out or less. Urban Meyer last hour on Ohio State Notre Dame, Riley Leonard. I mean Josh Allen, I mean Riley Leonard, leading Notre Dame to the national championship game. J. Mack, we are lucky. I said, I was talking to my wife yesterday, and I said, we have three football games left professionally and one in college. And then I'm going back to hockey scores. So it's got a little emotional.

I'm sitting there. I've got to be honest, in our lives, there's six months of the year that we can't wait to get to work. A little melancholy Monday. I will say four quarterbacks left in the NFL. Did you see what's similar among Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hertz, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes? They're all mobile. All mobile quarterbacks. And we see one tonight in Riley Leonard.

Let's see if he, because Will Howard's, he can run, but he's not mobile. Let's see if Riley Leonard could pull off some magic. You feel in the Irish tonight? Well, luck of the Irish? I'm not, but I think they have better special teams, the better quarterback. I would say the better coach and the defense is at least as good as Ohio State. But the Buckeyes' offense is a different level. And you get into these three and a half, four-hour games, somebody's going to pop.

It's just hard to suppress. Now, Michigan did it because I think they got into Ohio State's head. How much of that was the rivalry, though, Colin? I think it was a lot of rivalry. But I remember, you're the big dog favorite. I watched the Eagles yesterday almost lose to the Rams, if not for Jalen Carter. So it's like, I mean, I watched Washington hammer Detroit. Sometimes going in as a favorite, you get a little tight if you fall behind.

Here we do. Monday, we call it Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, plenty of both. Let's fire away. Where Colin was right? Been saying for weeks, the bills, this is the real deal. I think they should be favored over. Buffalo, Kansas City, they're not. But they've created balance.

They're not as reliant on Josh. Allen, the front office is excellent. I think McDermott's evolved as a head coach. They moved off a star receiver like Kansas City, and they've become more complete. First team ever, 30 plus passing and rushing touchdowns. I like everything about Buffalo. Yeah, I wish their defense was as good as the Eagles and the Chiefs. It's not.

But I think offensively, you go to the last several Super Bowls, It's the offense making a play, regardless of how good the opposing defense is. I like the bills over Kansas City. Where Colin was wrong. Nick Sariani, he's in his second NFC championship. I don't have to love his methods, but he's loud. Philly's loud. He's emotional.

Philly's emotional. It's just different. It's been a rocky flight, but I will say this. Part of coaching is getting your guys and your star players to rise to the moment, and he does it. And I just think it works. He's 52 and 23. It's a hard city to coach in. Maybe Doug Peterson, who won a Super Bowl, was too chill.

Maybe Chip Kelly was a bit too emotionally remote. Whatever it is, he feels like a fan coaching the team. I'm wrong. It works. Where Colin was right? Well, my number one preseason surprise team to make the playoffs was the Washington commanders. Colin, there's too much change.

Yeah, but when all the other people are bad and all the new people are good, who cares? I love the staff, the GM, the coordinator. One host in America had the courage to say, yeah, I think this 20-year tire fire is going to make the playoffs. It was me, a little boy with big dreams. And here's Washington in the NFC championship. Good for them.

Where Colin was wrong. Yeah, I'm a Jared Goff loyalist. That was ugly. Three picks, lost a fumble. It was just ugly. I got outplayed by a rookie. A great rookie. but when they had James Williams throwing it,

the wide receiver from Alabama, when he was throwing a pass, that felt like almost a message. Like, you know, on Jared Goff throwing a ball? Because when you do those reverses, those receivers, they want to throw the ball. They're not going to tuck it. They're going to throw the ball.

So, listen, Sean McVeigh moved off golf. I don't think they're going to be moving off in them now, but you couldn't watch that game as a pocket quarterback and wonder, what's the offseason going to be like? Second, third, fourth round on a pretty stacked roster. I think they'll roll the dice in a Riley Leonard. Don't be shocked. Where Colin was right?

Kansas City's not lucky. I've been hearing this all year. They're circumstantially the best team in football, best coach, best defensive coordinator, best quarterback. Yes, Mahomes can manipulate the officials. But what do you know? Travis Kelsey. We say this all the time. It's like grunk.

You go to the NBA playoffs, the NFL playoffs. there's a red light that goes on for the great ones, and here's Travis Kelsey, 70% of the offense. So listen, eight straight games without a turnover. I mean, just say that out loud in the NFL. The Chiefs have played eight straight games without a turnover. That to me is not luck. Where Colin was right?

I said Mike McCarthy has the leverage. He should ask for the moon against Dallas. He'll have a market, and all of it's been true. He now, I believe, could be the favorite to get the Chicago Bears job. And here's the thing about Mike McCarthy. Since he arrived in Dallas, only the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen have a more productive offense. He won with Farrb, an old grumpy Farrb. He won with Aaron.

He won with Dak. He went with Cooper Rush. He won some games with Andy Dalton. I believed it was a regressing franchise, and he is still a marketable coach. We were right on Mike McCarthy, who now is. interviewing for other jobs. Where Colin was wrong. You know I love Sam Darnold, but those last couple of games, 66 passer rating, were not ideal.

Yes, I had him receiving MVP votes in week 14 and 15, but it's how it ends. Jaden Daniels ends great. Sam Darnold did not. I think he is now what he's probably always been, Baker Mayfield. Little reckless, darn good, works his butt off, likable, B-plus guy, making mid-30s. the year. Where Colin was right? Folks, all your billionaires, or at least most of them, could afford what the Dodgers are doing who landed Roki Sasaki, the next great young pitching star from Japan. You do realize

the Dodgers deferring payments, every franchise could do that. They also win trades. They have arguably the best minor league system. They stole Teoska Hernandez for nothing. This is an organization that is hyper aggressive. All these owners in baseball, even the A's and the Fisher family, are billionaires. All of these organizations can defer payments. It's absolutely legal. I hear this all the time. What is wrong with baseball?

When the Yankees were dominating the Hot Stove League, it was celebrated. People don't like it because they think they're using some system that's not legal. Deferred payments are the future. of baseball and the smartest team in the sport has figured it out first. Where Colin was right? Riley Leonard led his team to a natty despite the fact they have one five-star athlete. I think this is the most underrated player in college football. I think he's going to go to an offensive coach like a McVeigh, sit for two years not play

and you'll look up and he's getting reps on Sunday. I don't know. I just, when I watch him, tough, athletic. Got kind of a weird delivery, but every time they ask him to make a big throw, he makes it. I think he has been my favorite dark horse player in college football for the entire year, and here he is taking a team that doesn't have as many five-star football recruits as Kentucky to the national championship. Helps he's got a great coach. And with that, we got a great analyst.

Matt Hasselbeck is joining us live. When I watched Buffalo yesterday, it was funny. So Tyreek Hill left the Chiefs, and they had to pivot to being more efficient because they weren't going to be as elegant over the top. And Stefan Diggs leaves, and I'm like, this team runs the ball. They have pivoted to kind of a more boring team. They don't allow sacks. They don't get penalties.

They don't turn it over. And I keep saying to myself, they've kind of grown up. I feel like I've watched the bills grow up in the last year. Yeah, I agree with everything that you just said there. And, you know, the committee approach at the running back position, you know, I remember when Josh Allen would lead the team in rushing. And you didn't see that yesterday. I mean, really, you know, you saw one running back running it down to the one and another

guy comes in to score the touchdown. Like, so what, who cares? We don't care about credit. We don't care about carries. We're sharing the load in the running game. I would say the same thing in the passing game. I think nine different guys caught passes yesterday. So it's much tougher to defend a guy, a quarterback, when he's spreading the ball around,

taking what the defense gives him in a sense and not really caring about, do I have to get this guy his touches so he doesn't throw a little temper tantrum on the bench? I think Buffalo has certainly lived that life. People live that life. But I think the life that they're living right now where it's more of a team and more spreading it around is certainly working for them. How much blame goes to Lamar Jackson? What did you think?

You know, Lamar is one of my favorite quarterbacks. I think he's one of the great quarterbacks of all time. And one of the things that I absolutely love about him is his leadership at the podium. After the game, you hear a lot of quarterbacks when the game doesn't go well. They say, oh, we got to be better on third down. We can't turn the ball over. It's like, bro, you got to stop turning the ball over. You were the reason we turned it over.

Lamar, you never hear that out of him. He always accepts the blame. It's almost like it just comes right from his head, right through his mouth. He's like mad at himself. I think that's one of the reasons that not only do his teammates love him, the opponents respect him. I think it's one of the reasons that he will eventually get there, but clearly the interception early, super uncharacteristic of Lamar,

the fumble after the bad snap, taking a bad situation, making it worse. Those were two plays that he's really going to be kicking himself about the entire offseason. But again, I just really believe that that accountability at the quarterback position, not a lot of guys have it. Lamar has it. And so for that reason, for the long haul, I'll take Lamar any day of the week. So, you know, it's interesting. The Eagles have 65 net passing yards.

But I do believe that part of the sustainability of this team is that Jalen Hertz is okay with it. I mean, he played at Bama. Like, he knows, like it's not just about me. And I also think if I was a quarterback and especially got it's a little smaller and has had injuries, I would be okay having a star running back. Like I think the personalities on this team, Sequin, professional, classy, quiet. Jalen Hertz, reserved. Like, there's something about this team.

Jalen is comfortable not leading them. And I think that's unique. I think most quarterbacks want to throw the ball. I think they like to, I mean, I, Howie Longo is jokes. You can't have multiple quarterbacks in the room. They all take the oxygen out of it. What do you make of hurt style, some inefficiencies? What do you make of this offense?

Well, I do think he is the leader. And I think he's got a great leadership style. He doesn't care about leading in stats, you know, in terms of the passing game. But I think they got to be better. They got to be better in the passing game. I'll just flat out say it. The quarterback that they're playing is amazing as a runner and is amazing as a thrower. And that's not just on Jalen.

The guys around him got to step up. It was bad weather. This weekend, it's going to be bad weather, probably the next weekend. You got to catch the ball in bad weather. The better player, the guys around him got to step up and play well in cold weather. But at the same time, I thought, I don't know if it was injury or what, Jalen Hurts didn't look like the best version of Jalen Hurts that I've seen. So he's got to raise his game and be at his best. Do I think Philly can not fly Eagles fly, Ron Eagles, Run?

the Super Bowl, I do. But at the same time, they do need more out of their passing game. I know they say they could do it if they wanted to. You're going to need it against Washington, in my opinion. You can lose at home in a playoff game. But the way Detroit lost, does that resonate in the off season? Do you think they're going to kind of review some things? That was ugly.

Some of it injury, but some of it just mistakes. I think sometimes, and you saw it. in some of the games, you can try too hard. You can want it too bad. And I think that was just the case. If you look at all the teams that didn't win, turnovers were really the story of the weekend. You got to protect the ball. You can't be sloppy with it. You can't be careless. You can't, I think, just try to force something that's not there. And really, you know, turnovers, they did, that's what did Detroit in. And I know they won a game earlier this year where they had a bunch of turnovers, but by and large, if you want to know the formula to not losing, you have to protect that football.

There's a lot of coaches in the NFL. They've got signs all around the building. I remember when Pete Carroll came to Seattle from USC. He took down just about every sign that Mike, sign in picture that Mike Holmgren had hanging there for like 10 years. And Jim Moore after that, he took them all down. And he put up basically in every single room, there was a sign that said, It's all about the ball. And so whether you have a sign or not, that is true. Turnovers will get you beat, and that's what got the Detroit Lions beat this weekend.

Okay, I watched Eli Manning, Joe Burrow, go on the road, go through the playoffs as an underdog, and get to Super Bowls. It can happen. The personnel-wise, Washington, Philly feels like a massive, a massive mismatch. how much of a shot do you give jane daniels and the commanders well unfortunately i lost the super bowl to a wildcard team in the pittsburgh steelers who did did just the same thing and and i also if you look at just like what's gone on the home teams are usually winning but it hasn't mattered to washington i see people talking about their inexperience being a negative it is not a negative they went on the road to tampa against a hot baker mayfield and mike evans team they said so what there's a game

anyone anywhere anytime let's go let's win it and they go the next week they win it they're going to philly like they they they don't care like they don't even know like they they they don't they're not like oh man remember we had those home playoff games like it's nothing to them so i just think that they're so engrossed in the game they've got poise that's like never been never been seen before out of a rookie quarterback and they're playing so well cliff kingsbury has them dialed in i think dan quinn has the bigger job on defense because i don't think the defense is as talented as the offense in Washington. So that would be the big question for me.

But can they get to the Super Bowl? I said it on this show a couple weeks ago, three weeks ago, a month ago. Absolutely, you could have a rookie quarterback in the Super Bowl, and Jaden Daniels is the guy to me. So let's go back, segue back to Bill's Chiefs. So it's interesting, Buffalo's beaten Kansas City several times, not in the game.

But this does not feel like Baltimore, Kansas City to me. We're just Baltimore just can't get past it. We saw, I think it was first week of the year, Baltimore lost by a tow to Kansas. I think Buffalo feels, we've beaten these guys. We've beaten these guys multiple times. I don't think psychology plays a role in this game. I think better team wins, but I haven't played the game you have. When you get to a conference championship, do those ghosts reappear for Buffalo?

Yeah, I don't know. I think it's a pretty mentally tough team. They know each other really well. know, I kind of mentioned that all year I felt like all these teams, you know, Kansas City and Buffalo, they were going to going through the motions knowing that these guys were going to meet up at the end of the year at some point. And that's what you see. I really think home field advantage is going to be the biggest player in this game. You heard Tony Romo talking about it, like getting into the perfect play, not wasting plays, using your cadence.

That's an advantage that Buffalo has had so far in the playoffs. I think Josh Allen does a great job with that. But I think the best in the league is Patrick Mahomes at using his cadence, getting the particular. right, getting into the right play. And so that home field advantage, there's a reason why guys care about it so much. It's not so much like, oh, you're, you know, you need people cheering for you or you don't want people booing against you. No, it's the communication at the line of scrimmage for these new age offenses

that are calling one, two, or three plays in the huddle. And it's just so important to get that communication done right. And you talk about no penalties, it's a lot easier to have no penalties, especially offensively, when you're at home. when you're at home. So the rule states very clearly in the NFL. You can't challenge roughing the passer. And it also says, we looked it up this morning, when in doubt, call roughing. If you think it's roughing, call it. They demand that in, it's in big black letters and underlined in the rule book. It's like we say in baseball, tie goes to the runner.

Tie goes to the quarterback. Call it. I also think Mahomes manipulate. refs. So does LeBron. Does it bother you what you're seeing or did you try to whenever you could to kind of leverage and manipulate moments physically? Yeah, I think there's a fine line there. I think the NFL will get it right. I think everyone's a little bit embarrassed by, you know, the fact that they didn't get the call right. I think replay assist will probably come in at some point. But I'm kind of okay with like what happened because I do think they'll get it fixed. the Mahomes at the sideline flopping. I mean, I used to give Andrew Luck a lot of heat about that.

I used to think like he sometimes flop. You know, he's a huge soccer fan. And I was like, okay, listen, this isn't soccer. You know, but at the end of the day, I think they will get it right. Do I think they got it right in that game? No, no, they didn't. There's room for improvement. But I also don't think that's why the Texans lost the game.

I think the Texans lost the game for other reasons. And so I'm not going to sit here and discredit the chiefs for the reason, you know, that being the reason they won the game, but did penalties have a huge play in that in that early drive um yeah it did it really did but again i think it's just something everyone needs to learn from basically now i will say for the record on the will anderson hit from the perspective of the official when it happened in real time matt i thought it was i mean the way from my television seat i watched it like this one right here my first take was oh that's helmet to helmet and so yeah i mean i boom that looks right there like helmet

the helmet the first time you see it quickly. Yeah, and that's why I will never criticize officials. It's bang, bang, you're trying to do the best you can. It happens in real time. I think our officials do a really good job, actually. But we're using replay assist for all this other stuff. And there's only one game going on during the playoffs.

It's not a one o'clock game on a Sunday during the regular season where there's so much to watch. You got to get this right. We have slow motion. We have high death. We have replay assist. That's where I'm saying like, hey, now listen, I also would say watching the Baltimore versus Buffalo game the next night, you can't tell me that those officials didn't just let those guys play. It was a completely different game, how it was officiated. The consistency was not there. I saw an official get knocked over to the ground

after a late hit on a fight. Nothing happened. Like, they weren't even calling PI. So, like, to think that, like, there wasn't some sort of conversation like, hey, we maybe over did it, overprotected. I saw Lamar Jackson, who probably going to win the MVP, get tackled out of bounds with, I mean, trust me, these guys are human, they're talking about it. But until the competition committee gets together in the off season and puts a proposal out there, I don't know how much they can get a change in a way that's consistent. Yeah, I think you make up a great point. There was a lot of physicality in the Ravens' Bills game. And it's, you know, listen, officials walk, they're all sitting watching that one game at their hotel. And they're going, oh, boy, this is bad.

then they're on their phones and everybody's saying official stink. So point made by that. And even the golf interception on the pick six when he took it in the chin. He literally takes the helmet straight to the chin and there's no flag. And again, I think that's where people are kind of like, well, why did it happen for one quarterback? I do think there's a little bit of a market correction and the officials do communicate from game to game. They talk about it. Matt Hasselbeck is always on a Monday, money.

Thanks for coming on the show, but as always. See you call. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's the reality of it. Like games bleed into games, people sit in their hotel rooms, everybody's watching football, and you watch them a home's game and think, we've got to back off and let these guys play. I've seen in the NBA series game to game, the officiating change. Like if it gets really, really physical and choppy in game one and tempers flare,

it's almost like they get a call from the league office. And the refs will in the first quarter of the game call everything and just course correct we've seen this in the NFL in the preseason when they over-officiate a new rule. So I remember a couple years ago in the Super Bowl, the Philly Special, when they allowed juggling balls as catches. Because the league was getting so much heat, and there was a ball in the back of the end zone for the Eagles, and they kind of bobbled it. That was an incompletion all year, and I'm not complaining, but it was like leagues do react, watch games, talk to officials. It felt like Baltimore Buffalo let the guys play. So what's your guess is what happens in KC Buffalo?

because Colin, listen, Troy Aikman used to work here. I haven't heard an announcer put the league on blast the way he did in that Texan chiefs game. And it was right. It was justified. He had a lot of backing. Again, these island games, 30 million people are watching, and it's very obvious to all of them. What's happening?

Well, I have always, I think you and I both believe this. The higher the stakes, the less I want officials dictating anything. I do understand officials early in seasons or early in games saying guys, like when you played the Ravens, or you played the Patriots, and the Patriots with Belichick were very grabby on the perimeter. Their cornerbacks would grab you.

And officials throw an early flag. They're like, Bill, we're not letting you do that. Hands off, yep. Yeah, so I am for an official being overly assertive early. But, you know, I'll say it again. I thought the Will Anderson hit was, when I watched it in real time, my take was, oh, that's a shot. my home sells it.

Well, wait, can you explain to me what the heck replay assist is? Because it seems to work very willy-nilly. And I started asking around on text message, be like, I don't get it. The league is unclear. When does replay assist chime in? This is a great point. Remember you and I, there was about a six-year period

in this league, or longer. I didn't know what the hell a catch was. It started with a Calvin Johnson catch against the bears in the end zone, and they wouldn't allow it. And all of a sudden it was high. during the Des Bryant Packers. And I brought Roger Goodell on the show, and I asked him. And he was great about it.

I said, I love your sport. I don't know what a catch is. And he's like, we have to address it. I think, to your question, here was Will Anderson this morning on the Mahomes hit and officiating. I'm not the type of chase calls. The NFL can do whatever they need to do for the thing. I feel like as a play, you just have to keep playing. Some calls were, you know, in my opinion, could have been better calls.

And that's okay. That's my opinion. But at the end of the day, it's about us. We have to do a better job of executing. We have to do a better job of going out there and being ready. And no matter what the outcome is, we have to do a better job of handling Texas business on both sides of the ball. Yeah, he's right. And listen, the NFL's a business. Businesses tweak.

This is what they do. The NFL has always been the ultimate tweak sport. Unlike baseball, which took them forever to get a pitch clock or defensive shift abandoned, the NFL will fix stuff, rules committee. they'll tweak stuff. I mean, in years where an officiating isn't controversial, they tweak. And they just changed the kickoff this year. A couple years ago

they changed the PAT. They will tweak. Yeah, and you know, I coach my kids in sports, Colin, I am aggressive defensively. I say, guys, I want you handsy. I want you all over them. Let the refs call it. If the refs call it, then we got to back off. But I want to see this game, Buffalo in Kansas City. I want the

refs hands off. Let the teams play the game. Don't be all like, oh, here's a flag on Buffalo. I'll I want to see, let him play. All right. Just know, the Chiefs have the better defense. And so if you... The bills have the better quarterback.

Well, subscribing to your theory, let them play. Then the Chief's defense will grab and hold and clutch. McIntyre said let him. Try grabbing Josh Allen on the run, big boy. Huh? Try grabbing. Call him, Nick Bolton. What do you got?

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The Buckeyes on her roll. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. You know, we like to celebrate positives on the show, but listen, there's nothing positive of Mark Andrews' fourth quarter. I mean, the drop two-point conversion that would have tied the game. Just gut-wrenching, you know?

I don't know how else to explain it. like pass was fine, maybe a tad low, but I mean, that's in his breadbasket. He's making $15 million a year. You got to catch out Mark Andrews. You just felt bad. Lamar Jackson defended his guy and said you can't place blame on one guy. I'm just hurt his mark. You know, I don't be his fault.

Like, all of us play the factor in the game. You know, it's a team effort. I was just not going to put that on Mark, bro. Because he's been battling on all the season. He'd been doing all the great things. He's doing all the seasons. It don't always go our way. We wanted to, but.

moment time is like it's not going out. We need to figure that out. Yeah. I felt really bad for him because he's a really good guy. There have been years when they didn't have good receivers where he was, he was the receiving game. He's probably a Hall of Fame, right? He's right up against it. You're not going to get out of this game without one of these games. There was a guy named Jackie Smith with the Cowboys years ago. He had a big drop in a Super Bowl. You're just, you're not going to play. Barry Bond struggled forever in the postseason.

A-Rod did. Like the all-time great players, very rare when you don't have stinkers. It was just he had a bad second half and a bad last 45 minutes of, you know, real time. Well, unfortunately, it gets a little worse. Our staff pulled up Mark Andrews's career playoff numbers. Oh, boy. So he's played in eight playoff games in his career. He has zero touchdowns.

He has more drops and more lost fumbles than touchdowns in his playoff career. That's not good. Now, he had two dropped yesterday, and he lost a fumble, of course. I mean, listen, Mark Gangers, again, great player, but for whatever reason, he has really struggled in the postseason. And again, it happens, you know, it's like, listen, it's also, it's also neither team, it's snowy, it's bad footing, there's just, it's these cold weather games, I was, I was thinking about this yesterday watching the game. Everything's harder in bad weather. Everything. It's just driving's harder.

It's harder for pilots. It's just, first of all, the game gets into your head psychologically because it's the coldest game Lamar's probably ever played in, or one of them. So it's just everything is, you tend to be thinking about, you know, the cold and getting your footing, and your concentration is pulled in these games. Like your ball's secure, you're trying to get your feet right, and you don't, you can't make breaks. Pooka Nakua had a moment yesterday when he was trying to come back around on a, on a replay, and he just couldn't quite get his body to turn.

may not have made the play anyway, but you're just constantly thinking about footing. L.A. teams don't play in snow. And so, you know, Lamar was, you know, he played in Louisville. He didn't get a lot of games like this in his career. So I think it's tough. Remember, no Zay Flowers. We talked about, Isaiah likely should be a big factor.

You said that Friday. And, I mean, he had three catches. He didn't drop anything. And Andrews kind of had a rough one. I'm a little surprised they didn't scheme it up for likely there. But, you know, Andrews has been with them forever. Like, I can't fault. the play call. It was there. Just a drop.

Next up is the Rams, Colin, who, who, boy, they looked like they had a game-winning drive there before Julian Carter stepped up, man. He was a monster in the middle. They did not play perfect football, but they had a lot of guts in that. How about this catch? He just stole that ball.

Pick it on 34 a little bit. He, after Quignan Mitchell went out, 35 was, here he is getting beat again. It's a tough day for a couple for him, but Carter was excellent. Stafford was pretty good. Pretty good. He was like a 24-yard two times. Jackson is pretty good, one great, pretty good enough to win a road game. Now here's the thing. He is 36, and he's got two years left on his contract, and the media

is starting to ask him about his future. Here's Stafford. As far as my future goes, I mean, it's 30 minutes after the last game, so it'll take some time to think about it, but I feel I was playing some pretty good ball. You got football left in you? It sure feels like it. If it was a robust quarterback class, they would draft the quarterback. It is not. I will tell you there is a quarterback in this draft. They believe they can get in the second and third round.

And if that quarterback is available, they will go after him. I've been sworn to secrecy. I will say this. They would like to trade down and get more and more picks. You know, if they had to rework a staffer deal, right now they have a first, no second, two-thirds of fourth, no fifth, and a bunch of six, no seventh. So I think they'd like to trade down, somehow figure out a way to get a second, even if it means giving up a third. They're fine.

I think they need another corner, another receiver, a left tackle. They are very close. If this game's in L.A., and they're not planning out weather, who knows? Let me ask you, I've watched the four mobile quarterbacks win, triumphant over the weekend, okay? And I know we didn't love Jalen Milrow this season in Alabama, But I'm just telling you, his value has to be skyrocketing and calling. He moves like Lamar Jackson.

You know what I thought this weekend? The winner was Cam Ward. Hey, go get a guy to can move. The loser, all the receivers. Bell's better without Stefan Diggs. C.J. Stroud, good enough without his two of his best receivers. Is my whole, A.J. Brown, no factor in the game. So my take, what Tyreek Hill?

What's it matter? I thought receivers lost this weekend. And quarterback, like a Cam Ward, he and Shanoor Sanders as go either way. Cam is a much more mobile athlete. Final story is to the NBA. Last night, the Lakers lost their fourth in their last six. I watched it. Kind of got drugged by the Clippers there.

After the game, LeBron was asked about how L.A. can improve on their inconsistency. Inconsistency's, and he had this response. It's our team that's constructive. We don't have a little bit of much right here. But I have a choice. I mean, that's the way our team. is constructed. We have to. We have to play close to

perfect basketball. Yeah, they're just not athletic enough. Yeah, they're only six in the West, which I think Barclay qualifies as garbage. Well, the East, by the way. How about this? Can I throw this out there? Please do. You're an owner of some

Peruvian softball team. So let me throw this out there. Josh Harris, in 2011, buys the Sixers. He hasn't got it. into an Eastern Conference finals. He has to cross his fingers every year if Embed is healthy. Josh Harris buys the commander's first

year NFC champion. Well, that tells you the difference in the league. This is not a shot at the NBA or baseball. The NFL, you can go from a circus. I mean, there was a smell around that Washington football team and that Houston team. You get the quarterback right and the staff right.

Washington has no business being in this game. Name their two best defensive players. I mean, it is Jaden, Terry McLaurin, and hope you have a great game plan. That's how many feel about the Lakers. It's LeBron, AD, and you don't trust Austin Reeves, right? He's like, hope you got a good game plan.

And LeBron's out here saying, listen, this is how we're constructed. Now I know some people are going to say, LeBron, you built the team. Let's just, let's settle down. They're six in the West. LeBron did want Westbrook. They've been reeling since that move. Years ago, man.

Well, LeBron catching strays here on a Monday? Come on. What are we doing? He's a 40. Strays. That's very suss. I don't know. Jay Mack on the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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Jane Daniels leads Washington against Sequin, Barclay, Jalen Hertz, and the Eagles. Pre-game coverage starts at 1 p.m. Eastern with kickoff at 3 only on Fox. My take on Lamar Jackson, if you want to tell the story of Lamar Jackson struggling in the playoffs, then you also have to tell the story where on the road in snow, without Zave Flowers, he had 125 passer rating, went 12 for 15 and was a drop pass from tying it. You got to tell the whole story.

I could be a Lamar Jackson apologist, but like Matt Hasselbeck, I've never seen anything quite like him. I think he's remarkable. I think there are quarterbacks in the pocket like a Mahomes I would take, but he's so special that on a bad snap, he's just trying to be Superman, and that's just his DNA. So every

winning team in the playoffs had no turnovers, and nine straight games have been won by a team with no turnovers. So again, you're not playing Caroline in the Jets. You just can't make mistakes on this stuff. And Lamar, in four of his eight, playoff games, has had multiple turnovers

in four of the eight, and in those four, he's over four. So that's fine. Now, conversely, the bills kind of took the governor, governor down their offense, especially after the early turnovers, and said, let's just play smart football.

We've got a lead. We're at home. Let's just let Baltimore beat them. themselves and to a degree they did. But, you know, again, the Mark Andrews fumble, the Mark Andrews drop, that's not necessarily, that's not on Lamar Jackson. You've got to tell the whole story is that, yeah, Lamar had a bad pick. That pick I'm showing the TV audience is terrible. But he digs you out of those because he is so unique.

That fumble. I thought this was the play of the game, not the drop pass. I thought that fumble. I thought Buffalo was in trouble. I thought Baltimore had taken over. They'd had big drives. They had seized momentum. Buffalo wasn't moving the ball in the second half.

They were playing a little safe, and they weren't moving the ball consistently. They needed, you know, Tyler Bass to hit field goals. But here's John Harbon. There's mistakes that eventually doomed the Ravens. It was uncharacteristic to have turnovers like that. There are opportunities for us to not have those, but they had we have. You know, so you try to bounce back from them.

That's what you try to do in the course of the game. You can't take them back. Yeah. I mean, even on the interception that Lamar threw, it does appear that Rashad Bateman, he stopped running. So I thought there was a psychology in this game. You can watch it here again. Bateman just stops.

So Bateman's a guy that was not a big, crucial player in the regular season, and he goes into the game is their best receiver. So I thought going into the game that Lamar and the Ravens were thinking, okay, Buffalo's really good. it's at Buffalo. We don't have Zay Flowers. We're going to probably, Lamar probably is thinking to himself,

I've got to make a few things happen here. We're not going in with a conservative game plan. I'm going to make things happen. So Bateman stops running. It looks like a terrible pick. But you see what happened. Andrews, so Bateman, Andrews, let him down. Again, Stafford played good enough to win.

Lamar played good enough to win, in my opinion. Now, tonight, Urban Meyer next hour, Ohio State, which has a decided NIL and talent advantage, will take on Notre Dame tonight. I do like Ohio State, but Notre Dame, I think, has better special teams. I think they have Sean McVeigh as a coach. I think their defense is at least as good as Ohio State, but the Buckeyes have really one of the more amazing receiving cores.

I mean, the last four or five years, Ohio State has become like a conveyor belt of first round wide receivers. receivers. And I just think Notre Dame, unless they can just I mean, honestly, special teams, can Notre Dame, this sounds ridiculous, get good punting. Can they pin Ohio State

back? Can they kind of win field position in the first half of the game? They're going to have to do more right to win. There's more margin of error for Ohio State. They blew out Oregon. They blew out Tennessee. They look pretty

unbeatable. But, you know, in the Michigan game, Will Howard had a rocky start. The coach has lost confidence in him. And when you do go in as a dominating favorite, you have a tendency if you get sloppy early to pull it back a little bit, let's play conservative. So I get the better quarterback.

I think I get the better coach. I get the better special teams. Notre Dame's not here because they've locked into it. They've got a lot of components, but they're going to need to play a more perfect football game, certainly capable of doing that. They are, what is it now, 8.8.5.1 underdog. I think I like the under.

I think it's going to be a low-scoring game. That favors, by the way, Notre Dame. I'm not going to bet. I just, I don't see Notre Dame getting blown out. They just, they're very resourceful, a very resourceful football team. But usually in these national championship games, big favorites win and often win going away. That, as J-Mack will tell you. you has been the trend.

Last five Natty's favorites have just dominated. Yeah. So in Ohio State's better. I just want to know game plan-wise, is Notre Dame going to do what Texas did to slow down Jeremiah Smith? That's probably your best bet. But if you go in with this, hey, we got here doing our thing, we're going to keep doing it. Smith is going to kill you. You can't man him up. He demands double coverage at least, right? I mean, Texas totally shut him down and hung around, hung around, and then they had a chance late before Jack Sawyer stepped in with one of the great.

Well, Texas also had a much more dynamic, offensive machine. So Texas take away, Texas is going to play and coach different than Notre Dame does. Notre Dame doesn't have that kind of firepower. Hey, guys, it's us and the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

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