The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Fred Warner

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Covino and Rich, in for Colin Cowherd, chat with 49ers LB Fred Warner about his expectations for the Niners to return to the playoffs next season. Is this Super Bowl suffering from too many spoiled fans? Plus, Covino believes Bronny James may be the best garbage time player of all time! #crshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Rich had our bosses for it. We're going to talk about that because I think you guys are am. Clowns, and I'll explain why. However, no matter where you were, when the company's paying, why does the food just taste better? Because it's free. Yeah, it's just how it is. I love that. You don't even have to do the fake reach for the wallet either. No, that's part of it. And that's part of the scene. Again, a lot of boozing and schmoozing,

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here's some of the interviews we had earlier this week. Covino and Rich, we're on 2 to 4 from L.A., so 2 to 4 on the West, 5 to 7 on the East. But always a pleasure to fill in for Colin on the herd. So we're basically doing five hours of radio today. Now, I got to call Rich out as, oh, you know what? I see Fred Warner stopping by. I'll call you out right after that.

Save that. You know what? Calling you out is what I'm good at, so don't worry. I won't forget. Hold that thought, and you can call me out at the end of our hang with my dude, Fred Warner. Hold on. Yo, what's up, man? All right. Let's welcome with glory.

Dude, I'm the biggest Niners fan. There is, bro. He is, he is, man. Let's welcome 49ers linebacker, Fred Warner to the show. All right. Welcome, man. Thanks for having me, fellas. No, man, thanks for stopping by.

We appreciate you. I'll try to hide my fan boyness. Listen, I tell you, as a Niners fan, this season, I got to know as a player, did you feel what I felt every week where I was like, next week they win three in a row, they'll turn it around. Of course. sneak into the playoffs. Yeah.

I mean, that was, of course, what we all felt, right? And I hate that the season ended, or it even turned out how it did, right? We've had seasons in the past where we had slow starts, right? And we're three and five, or we're on the verge of three and six. And we find a way to pull it off and then win out and do all these sort of things. And, of course, you're yearning for that. But at the end of the day, we couldn't overcome a lot of the things that we were dealt, right? So that was the toughest part.

This nine-er season, a weird analogy, but we're feeling it for Colin today, and he does analogies all day. Yeah. It reminded me of Mike Tyson Buster Douglas. The whole time, you're like, oh, Tyson'll, you know, just a matter of time. That's right. Each round went on, you're like, Buster Douglas is whooping his ass. And then eventually like, oh, damn, Buster Douglas won. Every week, I'm like, I'm like, I wasn't a big fan of this analogy.

I don't know what I have to do with this in this current interview. But you know what? I got to say, Fred, let's take a look at next year's schedule. I know you can't think that way, but it's pretty light. Yeah, I mean, so here's how the schedule goes. The year that we just finished, everybody's looking at the teams that we've, that we're going to play, we're going off a base off the past year, right? And that means nothing.

But what happens? Like all those teams that had poor seasons, they all now have the best picks to pick up the best players. And then they go in free agency and they go get more great players. And then all of a sudden, they have a great year next year. And everybody's like, oh, my God, I thought this team sucked. And it's like, no, well, they got some reinforcements because nobody wants to stay at the bottom, right? And so it doesn't matter what the schedule is. I mean, obviously, I guess technically you want the easiest schedule,

but at the end of the day, there is no easy games because it's the NFL. Everybody's great. So you've got to go out and you've got to put the best product on the field every given Sunday. Fred Warner here on the Kavino and Rich show. Rich talked about, you know, everybody expecting the season to turn around last year, and it just never really did. So there's a lot of buzz, a lot of talking every day, social media on TV. How do you tune that out?

Or does it start to weigh on you? for a while. No, you tune it out. I think in season is especially important to kind of just keep that stuff outside of whatever your personal things that you're allowing into your life, right? I think there's a lot of stuff out there that can kind of seep into your mind and sway the way that you think about the game or the way that you approach the game. And I've learned throughout my younger years, as I can say now, is to kind of just put all that aside, man, and just focus on the main thing. And that's playing football and preparing as hard as you can. can week in and week out to put their breast product on the field.

Well, you could focus on yourself. You're in control of that. Sure. You start to feel the tension building within the locker room. Because you are a family of sorts when things get tough. Do you start to notice that and try to keep it calm? I honestly think that we have a locker room that's made of the right type of guys. I don't think that our GM, John Lynch and Kyle Shannon, our head coach,

they don't bring guys that aren't made of the right things. And so we all stay together through all the hardships. And it has nothing to do about the pressure from the outside. If anything, there's more pressure from the inside because there is a standard of winning in our organization. So when it's not being upheld, then that's when you start to feel, okay, like we need to write the ship.

And so it was a miserable season because we didn't do that. Fred Warner, hanging with Kavino and Rich, in for the herd. Robert Salah. As a fan, I was pumped. Who cares about what I think? When you are hearing the rumors and then it happens, is that your guy, is at a nice reunion? Unbelievable.

I can't speak to how amazing that is right here on this set because of how much Coach Salah means to me in my progression as a young player. I mean, from the moment I got drafted to starting me as a young rookie who never played off the ballbacker before and sticking with me through the rough patches of that rookie season and me being able to ascend in this league. So I'm so grateful to him for what he's giving me.

And now being able to have him back now in these different points in our careers is going to be unique, but in such the right ways. I mean, he's such a great teacher and leader. Man, I'm so excited to have him back. And he seems like such a good dude. So what were your thoughts when you saw he was treated and what went on with the Jets and everything?

Well, look, I don't even know exactly what went on over there. Obviously, I can only speak to him being. You'll get the scoop, though. Yeah, you know, when I do sit down and talk with, I'm sure I'll have a little bit more information, but by then I might not be able to get back on the set with you guys. But, yeah, man, obviously I'm just excited that he is. However it all unfolded, he's back with us.

And so that's what makes me excited and hopeful for the future. Now, Rock Purdy, other side of the ball, but it seems like I love how you have his back. I'm not saying it's disingenuous, but do you have to have your quarterback's back, or do you really believe in what he could deliver? Yeah, no, I can honestly say that if I had a certain sort of way that I felt about a player, like I would jump around a question, right?

Like, I'd kind of find a way to say something nice about him when, you know, in reality it's probably not the right guy. Like, I don't know how much time do we have on the set. Like, we could sit here all day and we could talk about it. But at the end of the day, this is a cat that was the last pick of the draft, right? And you don't even hear about these guys who they don't even pan out in the NFL. I want people to understand this.

The last pick of the draft doesn't usually make it on a roster. This is the guy who is our franchise quarterback, you know, and it's just made of the complete right stuff and has continued to prove week in and week out that he is that guy. You know, he led us to a Super Bowl. Unfortunately, we didn't win that Super Bowl, but that's not his fault. It's a team game, right? He made enough plays in that game to win us the game. He finished with the ball with us, having a football.

with us having more points than the other team. It was our job to stop their offense. So at the end of the day, man, he just is the complete right guy for the position, and I love him. I love the way that he competes and the way he approaches it. Not to throw Trey Lance onto the bus, but they were rumblings early on that even in like early practices, it was like, take a look at Purdy. Yeah, Purdy as the, well, you're the third string guy,

and you're obviously Mr. Irrelevant, last big in the draft. You're not going to have a lot of opportunities to get out there on the practice field, So the times where he was getting reps was in training Campbell, we're in the P.M. practice out there, no helmets, no pads. It's a walk-through, but he's out there treating it as if it was a game. And I'm like, how, like, this guy is, how does he even know how to do this? Like, you're a rookie. Everything just stacked against you, and he just knew exactly what to do

from the moment he came on the team. It's kind of lame, but it's sort of the story of the ugly duckling, right? And he turned into a beautiful swan leading your team to victory, right? No, he's phenomenal. Look what he turned into. I want to talk about Purdy's game. I want to talk about your game, but not on the field. Your wife.

You met her by sliding into the DMs. That's right. Yeah, I got a little something, man. Yeah. So how cool was that, though? I'm imagining you're watching TV. You saw her and you're like, I like her. Is that how it was working?

It was a unique situation. But at the end of the day, yeah, I mean, I see her. She's gorgeous. She's beautiful. I didn't know what it was going to turn into. I did slide the DMs, and she somehow answered back. I didn't think she would. Right.

And we met in L.A. This was right before COVID happened. she was there for business and got in super late. The only thing that was open was in and out. So we went to in and out, and we just sat there. We talked for hours, and the similarities within each other. It was a match made of heaven. But you met her at In and Out?

Basically. Really? That was the first date. That's wild, dude. And by the way, if you guys don't know the story, she was on Bachelor season 24. So I'm assuming you're a fan and you're just watching and you're like, you point at the TV. Hey, as Sydney. By the way, you guys are great on social media together.

Honestly, like my wife's like, they're so cute. I appreciate it, man, thank you. Now, I got to ask this whole season, you played hurt. I mean, I'm not saying that's, you know, I know everyone's a little hurt, but you are hurt. Yeah. Is this all season going to be just the perfect rest you need to come back even stronger? Absolutely. And, you know, I hate to kind of just put this, I don't ever want to put this spotlight on myself

because I know that everybody's dealing with something at some point. It was a very hard and unique season for myself because I hadn't had to push through something like that before. But I'm proud of the way that I was able to fight through it, even through the circumstances. And I'm excited, yeah, to get back healthy this offseason to ultimately get back to form going into the next season. Are you more concerned this offseason about working on your right hook trying to knock that ball out? I don't know if that's part of the training nowadays. I got to start working on my left. Yeah, that's the problem right now.

And are you still hitting the weights? Because when I searched Fred Warner, I was just doing some research on your stats. The first thing that came up was how many times could you bench 225? Yes, yes. What did it say? It said 41. Wow. Oh, my God.

That's absolutely not right. Do you still care about that stuff? No, no, no. Not at all. I mean, I do care about the way room, but I don't get that. Let's not get that wrong. Like, the wayroom is very important for ultimately performance and longevity in this league. But do I care about how many times I bench two only wife?

No. What is he 17? Yeah. Those times are those times were good while they lasted. Right. They weren't. But it was, you know, it was part of the process. And now it's just about just being the best version of myself for Sundays.

Fred, we had Pookin the Kua here earlier. Awesome. And he's a good dude. He says hello. He says hello. And we're talking about the culture now of, like, you can't really tackle guys the way you used to. Right. Is there such an emphasis on punching out the ball?

Is that something like defensive specialists are telling you, like, we got to do this? Yeah, I think it is for absolutely something that teams are honing in on now. It's not easy, though. You know, some guys have more of a knack forward than others, but at the end of the day, as long as you practice something. You got to hit that speedbag, man. You got to do it every single day. You got to practice it every day to make a muscle memory, and that's what I've done. I added it to my game in my second season and first game being out there with Quaun Alexander, I go and I punch a ball out, right?

And so that was just how it all unfolded. Again, we're here with Fred Warner, and I know you're here with Experian. That's right. So, yeah, tell us about it, man. Yeah, no, listen, Experian's all about saving everybody time and money, right? And so you download the Experian app. they help you cancel all your subscriptions that you don't use that you don't need everybody falls victim to it right a lot of people pay I was checking my bills once like babe we're still paying for our peloton exactly it's like we don't even have a peloton anymore

that thing broke like three years ago okay why are we still paying for this so you know we all fall victim to it where things just go unnoticed but they do all the heavy work all the heavy lifting of doing all that for you and saving you time of money I think my mom was still paying for a OL by the way I got to ask which is true it because it hurt me as a fan and I and I hate that to compare it because I'm just a fan. I was there both times against the Chiefs. Does this make you want to see them lose? Are you pulling for the Eagles? Are you not watching some guys? Like, I don't even want to watch. What's your thoughts? I'm not the cat that doesn't watch.

I'm a complete fan of the game, so I'm absolutely going to be tuned in, but I'm not pulling for either team. I dislike both teams, honestly. Same. And your wife hates the Eagles fans, I heard, right? Oh, well, I wouldn't say hate, but it wasn't it wasn't the most cordial encounter when we went out there that one time.

But yeah, I dislike both teams, so I hope they both lose. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how that works, but we can figure out. There was that meme where it's like who's rooting for who and it's like meteor strike. What was the number one answer? I mean, yeah, let the lights shut out again like they did back. What was that when we played the Ravens? Oh, yeah, it was the same stadium, wasn't it?

I'm 0-3 as a fan. Can we change this next year? And Levi's. Come on. Let's do it. Yeah, I got you. Fred, a pleasure having you got around. Pleasures all mine, man.

Thank you, man. Always, always success. A pleasure to meet you. Thank you, man. Fred Warner on the Covino and Rich Show. In for Colin Cowherd, Super Bowl 59, New Orleans. We got more next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

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We're on every day, Monday through Friday. In fact, not only are we in for the herd today, we're still doing our regular show. Because, well, Super Bowl Meteor Rose is like a second home. for us. We've been doing us a lot and love coming back every year. Want to keep that going. Love catching up with people. This is your 34th year? Our 155th year here, we are, we're actually 70. Yeah, yeah. And we got Vince Wilfork stopping by next hour of the Patriots, former Patriot legend. Two-time Super Bowl champion. Know what I got to ask Vince Wilfork about? We're what? Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday.

We're four days away from Super Bowl Sunday. and my wife's at home with the kids. She hit me up and she's like, babe, I think I want to buy a new grill and smoker to make all the appetizers for our Super Bowl party. And I'm like, do you think now, well, I'm out of town and we're having a bunch of people come over? Is that the time to experiment with new food?

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Yeah, yeah. And we just had Fred Warner on the show. I know that was huge for Rich as a big 49ers fan. The one thing I kind of wanted to get to if we had more time is something you bring up all the time about your 49ers and the fear of, you know, you only get so much of a window in the NFL. Then again, the Eagles, you thought they were done and now they're back. I'm going to give you his answer? I'll give you his answer. Okay, ready? Hey, Fred Warner, Rich Davis. Yeah, baby. He's smooth.

Do you ever get scared that maybe the 49ers window is closing? His answer is clear. Because it's what any niner would say. When you have John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan running the show, guys that know how to work contracts, they know a system. And Salah coming back. And Robert Sala now heading up.

What you're talking about. Rich, the window closed already. There is no window closing for the 49ers. And you know, he did give one great answer, which is, I gave a lot of great answers, but what I thought was interesting is, yeah, as a fan, you do look at those schedules and say, you know, the Niners play all weak-ass teams next year, because they have the, quote, easiest schedule winning percentage-wise going into the next season, because they were technically a last-place team,

but he's right. All the bottom feeders get the top picks in the draft, and they spend the off-season trying to revamp because what they did didn't work. So it's not like every garbage team last year is going to be garbage again, it's just not how it is. But again, much how the 49ers fell off this year, and you think about their window closing. That's why the Eagles are inspiring

heading into Sunday, because we felt that way about them last year. You get one major piece, like a Sequin Barclay. You get a good, healthy year from Jalen Hurts. The whole thing is right back, you know, and turns it all around again. So I would never count your 49ers out, is my point. You get McCaffrey,

Ayuk, all these guys that missed the whole season. Exactly, you know, and maybe make a good move here and there. And you know who you could also put in that conversation of, oh, you know, we counted them out, a team that came within a field goal of being here at Super Bowl 59. Everyone said,

oh, Buffalo, that ship of sale. And people were saying jets and dolphins. There were so many people, even on our network, they were saying, yeah, Buffalo, that Josh Allen window is closed. McDermott, no thanks. You know, they were a Josh Allen bad, fourth-down spot. away from having the ball in the fourth quarter already up, scoring again.

So the NFL things change very quickly with little adjustments. You know what? I'm going to call out Rich later on. I want to make fun of Rich, and you definitely want to hear that. Because he was splitting food last night at a company dinner. He went split skis. But since you're talking about, again, the Super Bowl, and we're not going to avoid it. That's why we're here.

Let's talk about the ticket sales and the ticket fatigue. Do you think because we saw this already and because Chiefs fans have been here, twice already that they're not buying tickets because they're cheaper than ever before. Well, not ever before, but in recent history. Yeah, I mean, they're not like $10, like, $1967 in Super Bowl 1. Do you think it's Chief's fatigue, Super Bowl fatigue, do you think they're sick of the matchup? Like, what do you think is going on that the tickets are significantly lower? I mean, what you're saying is probably the number one answer, and I say that because if this

Super Bowl was Detroit Lions, Buffalo, bills. I think you would have seen most expensive ticket in the Super Bowl history. And I think it's as simple as this, ready? Break it down, just a regular guy. Let's say you went to the last two Chief Super Bowls. Imagine the guy having to go to his wife again. Be like, honey,

I'd like to go again with the boys, or even you want to take your family, whatever the case may be. If you went the last two years, coughing up the change for a third one in New Orleans might be like, hey, you know, maybe it's a little too much. Or maybe like, yeah, I went to the last

Maybe I'll sit back and watch this one. But what do most grown men and women call going to the Super Bowl, the World Series, the NBA Finals? They usually say things like, this is a once-in-a-lifetime. Yeah, bucket list. Bucket list. I got to go. And then, you know what those people did? They went in 2020.

Exactly. When the Niners lost to the Chiefs in Miami. And then for the people that were like, oh, man, such a bummer I didn't go. They maybe went the next year with Tom Brady, face my homes. Oh, dude, I totally missed my opportunity. The Rams Bengals, faster to another year. Oh, wait, they're back in the big game.

They're playing the Eagles. There's been five opportunities now for a Chiefs fan. So small market, Kansas City fans that are like, this is a bucket list item. You are now on chance number five. They're a spoiled. Bro, it's the spoiled mentality. I've been there as a Yankees fan.

In 96, of course, I was there. You know, 98 I was there again. You know, 2000, yeah, I wasn't as excited to go. I was excited to watch. Nothing would bother me more. Don't get it wrong. I was watching and rooting, but it wasn't the same exciting because you become spoiled and entitled a little bit. And I think maybe that's why there's not as many Chiefs fans willing to come and cough up that money.

In fact, we went to opening night, which is just a big media celebration at the Superdome. And media's asking all the players, you know, question to answer. You saw it on television. It was mostly Eagles fans, you know, and again, that's early on in the week. So maybe that is partially the reason. It's just a little bit of an entitlement. And listen, I have a buddy who's an eagle fan that watched them win with Foles within the last 10 years, watched Tim lose, watched Jaylen Hertz lose a couple years ago. This is the third time in the last decade.

He said, and my kid's got sports. My wife's like, hey, babe, maybe sit this one out. There is a fatigue, which is 100% true. And on top of that fatigue, Kavino, maybe people are broke. The economy, you know, some people might say, I don't got that disposable income. However, there's nothing more infuriating than a spoiled fan. There was a time when I was living in New York. Danny G., you're a West Coast guy, so if this happens with Dodgers fans,

I'll equally roll my eyes and hate it. I would have Yankee fan friends, and I'd say, dude, you go on the playoff games? They would say, bro, it's only the divisional round. Only the division on. Dude, I'm going to wait until the World Series. it's only the American League championship. I'm like, what are you saying? Yeah, so maybe we're seeing some habits of a spoiled fan here.

That could very well be it because ticket prices have plummeted. And that is a side story. By the way, plummeted means $4,000. But in comparison, when last year the average ticket price was around $8,000? Exactly. I mean, that's significant. I mean, it's still expensive. I get it.

And, you know, I also do think, Rich, I mean, we touched on it, that people don't have that sort of money to spend right now. Maybe they're just playing it safe because they're looking to the future. Who knows? So that is a story we wanted to touch on and wanted to get your thoughts on maybe as to why. Those are our reasonings. That's our theory. Let us know at Covino & Rich at Fox Sports Radio.

Now, we're going to get into the heard-line news a little bit with Danny G. But one last question about the Super Bowl from a light perspective. We're having people over. Yeah. What's your take on TV volume? People talking, people shutting up. I know one of our favorite comedians, Bill Burr, does a whole bit about how, hey, I can't watch the Super Bowl with non-fans because he wants to watch.

People yapping the whole time when you're trying to concentrate. It's almost disrespectful. His take is all these morons talk during the game, and then they're quiet during the commercials. And he's like, it should be the opposite. Oh, my God. He's so right about that. I got the TV in, like, the Den family room, and I have the living room. Oh, so you don't come here with questions.

You come here with solutions. I'm saying, do I make a proclamation that if you want to hone in on the game, hey, listen, Slappy, hey, Zippy, zip it. If you want to yap the whole time, get in the kiddies' room and watch over there. Like, Danny, if you and Brenda and Koe would come by, do I say, hey, if Brenda and Koe are going to be playing with the kids, that's where you go in the family room. The game will be on, but if you want to watch.

Forget the Super Bowl, regular season. I don't like it when my own kids. Even the teens in our family are in the living room. while I'm watching. It's such a great. You know what, though? Kids at least have an excuse, right?

They're running around. They're being rambunctious. They're being kids. You're an adult. So many adults show up just to hobnob, you know, and eat the free food. I hate it. It's like, oh, man, you're ruining the atmosphere here. I've been to a Super Bowl party or two.

I'm sure you have two where they turn the volume down so that people could hear their chit chat better. Oh, man. I hate that. Turn the game up. I'm going to get extra. I'm going to get extra sono speakers and crank them. No, it is.

Just because you need to hear it. It's Super Bowl. You've got to have the surround sound, and you've got to have it like sports bar level where the game outweighs the chit-chat. That's the method. But, again, Rich's solution if you missed it, is he's going to have a separate TV where if you want to chit-chat about the latest Bachelor episode while the game is on, you go in that room. All right? This room's for the real fans that are concentrating. I love.

That invested a whole season, a whole time, you know, all this time into this entire season, not to listen to you on a season. Super Bowl. I love all the chit-chat. Hey, new Levis Blind comes out this week. Hey, you're watching Shrinking on Apple TV? That's the chit-chat, Danny, for the family room. Yeah, you're a hobnobber. That's why we do that feature on Fridays.

And it's also when you know you met the right significant other because Brenda, she knows if NFL's on, don't talk unless there's commercials. She's even grabbed the remote and turn the volume up for me. That's a great game day wife. I love that. Danny with the game day. Game Day Wifee. Game Day Wifee.

And what do you think about halftime, too? Again, I'm not the biggest Kendrick Lamar fan, but I want to hear what's going on. I want to hear it. I don't want to hear you. You're not the halftime show.

He is. Those are cultural moments that I think, exactly, if you're a human being. Because what a people? I see it as like historical moments, because we'll be talking about it. Same way you bring up Bruno Mars

and Prince and whoever performed, you're going to be like, yo, remember when Kennedy? Even if he stinks, you want to watch it. and you want to remember it. So it's almost a disrespect that some dude is going to talk over and stomp over this entire historical moment. It's like, yo, man, it's the time and place. Could I predict something?

Yeah. Because in 2025. I like your solution, by the way. In 2025, we live in a world of eye-rolling critics. Everyone. Oh, God. Like, you can see the greatest thing in the world yet there's people somehow find a way to hate it. Without a doubt, there's going to be a bunch of people that no matter what Kendrick Lamar does,

No, I thought it stunk. And there's going to be people that think every commercial stinks. And there's going to be those people that live in the past about like, you know, used to be better back in the day. It's like the fireworks on the 4th of July. There's always that one jerk that's like, oh, better last year. That's better last year. So be prepared for the haters and the jerks, but enjoy your Super Bowl Sunday. Fireworks usually end with it.

Is that it? That's it? Is it over? So I think you got to prepare yourself for all those ass clowns that mocking. everything that talk in your living room. So have at it, have fun. And with that, let's go to Danny G. For the Hurdline News. No, no, no, no, turn on the news.

This is the Hurdline News. All right, guys, leading headline from Super Bowl Week in New Orleans. Premier Network's Big Shot Julie Talbot is soft and says that Rich Davis sharing food with our boss Scott was cute. Let me tell you, it is. I think we'll talk about it more on our show this afternoon because there was a lot of people chat about how me and the boss decided to split two entrees. Two grown men.

Totally little bit. I mean, embarrassed. At least I thought you were. We didn't feed each other scallops, guys. Did you guys share a little cocktail with an umbrella too? You guys fed each other a dessert and I took a picture of it and that is now going to go in the blackmail file. Perfect. All right.

Let's start with the NFL here. Nick Sariani, the Eagles head coach, of course. He weighed in on your guy's debate yesterday about motivation and adversity. This team's embraced adversity, Seriani said yesterday. Even going back to the 23 season, which we haven't talked a lot about since the beginning of the year, we're grateful for that. We're thankful for that. As bad as it sucked at the time, I know I'm grateful for that because it shaped us into who we are now

and a big reason why we're back here. Embracing adversity is huge for your development as a person, as a player, as a coach. You know, we got Vince Wilfork stopping by later on. He's lost a few Super Bowls. We'll ask him about it. Like, how does that work as far as staying motivated? That's the, you know, Vince Woolfork is a guy that's won a couple close ones and lost a couple close ones. So that's some perspective right there.

All right, the NBA trade deadline is tomorrow. I have one rumor and one trade. KD. is dealing with a left ankle sprain, and it is unclear whether or not he's played his final game for the sons. No one's safe. Sources say Phoenix has been willing to listen to offers for Kevin Durant in recent days. the Warriors are among the teams with interest, according to Brian Winfors. Well, the rumor is that the Warriors are reaching out to everybody just to see who's willing. Yeah, they're reaching out to everyone.

It's like, they don't want to waste Steph's final years. Exactly. All right, and Shams had more breaking news this morning. The Bucks have traded three-time All-Star Chris Middleton to the Wizards in a deal that sends Kyle Kuzma to Milwaukee. Middleton's 33 spent 11-plus years in Milwaukee, key member to that Bucks championship team. team and 21. He's averaging just 12.6 points per game this season. His lowest average since 2013. Injuries have been a big part of why he declined. And Kuzma, on the other hand, 29, averaging 15.2 points and almost six rebounds this season. So the bucks, they get a younger guy

here to fit in with Janus Lillard and Brooke Lopez. Hey, Davey. G, as a resident Lakers guy, do you keep your eye on Kuzma? and move for them a little bit. Yeah, of course. Okay. I look at that and say they're getting some youth, but, you know, for that Milwaukee Bucks fan base, it's hard to say goodbye to a lifer that was part of a championship team,

especially when you got that one chip with Yannis, and it was very special for that organization. Middleton was such a big part of that. And don't forget, he rose up from the G League. So he's one of the better stories in the league. Well, you know, Danny, speaking of the NBA, when you look at the standings, I know we always have to stick with Eastern Conference, Western Conference,

but I just looked at, I'm like, hey, where are the Golden State Warriors? As of right now, they're that 10 seed that would be in the playing game. Dallas is over 500, and they are on the outside looking at number 11. Now, when you go to the East, seven on wouldn't even make the playoffs in the West. So there's an imbalance in the league. Like, you know, every few years you get a way heavier conference. And right now, the worst teams in the West are as good as playoff teams in the East. It's going to be a fun NBA season that we're looking forward to after the Super Bowl is over.

Suddenly, some life injected to the league, especially with the Anthony Davis and Luca trade. Look at it in the east. Detroit is currently the six seed. If they were in the West, they would be the 12 seed. That's crazy. It's a big imbalance. So lots of drama show in the next two days as far as moves being made. And let's wrap it up with LeBron.

The Lakers are now. and O at the Clippers new Intuit Dome home. Oh, how sad for the Clippers. I know. They crushed the Clippers last night. 122 to 97. And, you know, the Clippers have been dominating in Lakers, at least in the regular season the past decade, but not lately. That's nine wins in the Lakers' last 11 games. And LeBron said that when he went to the bench for his first breather, it was strange to not have his usual seat right next to his homie AD, but that a smiling Luka helped make the adjustment for him.

Smiling Luka. I thought that the trade news for sure was fake, LeBron said. I thought it was a hoax, people messing around or whatever. But then when AD called me and FaceTime me and I talked to him for quite a while, and even when I got off the phone with him, I still didn't think it was real. You know, I think we're still processing it and absorbing it. Did you think it was a hoax? Because you even believe in like drones and UFO.

So you missed it. I was like, get out of here. I thought I was going to click the link and it was to be a naked guy. You know, I thought it was a fake link. I didn't know what it was. but I was pretty impressed by the professionalism of all involved, meaning LeBron saying, you know, hey man, this happens, it's a business, I get that, and, you know,

got to move forward, that sort of thing. AD seemed oddly content. Like, you know, I was watching the clip. I'm like, wait, is that a current clip? Because I expected to see him like sad and somber, but he was sort of like, yeah, we're going to go at it and get it. And it was cool to see that he's moving forward. If anything, Luca seemed, you know, the most torn up about it.

But we talked about it earlier. He's also dealing with the most adversity. There's a hundred million dollar difference and the most loss here. But again, I know he's excited still. He's carrying the most weight. You know what? Yeah, pun intended. But I will say, though, that, you know, in a world of critics where everyone's, you know, leaning on every word they say.

Yeah. Everyone's going to handle it pretty professional. I think the right amount also of... Oh, an AD turned down $6 million trading clause just to have extra money so they can get the key components that they need. Yeah, that was a big move. I think we're also seeing the right amount of greed. like LeBron saying goodbye to AD, Lucas saying goodbye to Dallas. It's not too much where it's like, I don't get over it, but it's also the right amount of respect.

Yeah, now let's see it all on the court. And to say you know who won this trade, you're full of it because no one knows yet. We shall see. And that is the herd line news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping back. The herd line news. All right.

So you mentioned the Lakers. We still got to talk Brony. and the most exciting, and I say this respectfully, the most exciting garbage time players. In any sport, it could be backup quarterbacks, it could be, you know, guys off the end of the bench in the NBA, those garbage time players that get people. Fan favorites usually like that.

Dude that used to come off the bench for the Celtics. Yeah, yeah, all your fan favorites. That red-headed Kobe? Oh, I thought you're going to say Taco. Oh, him too. Yeah, I've had a few. Taco Grande? Your favorite Weird El Song?

Yeah. Taco Grande. Oh, Taco Fall. So, again, it didn't make Danny's herd line news, but Brony hit his first three. And say what you want about the guy. When he's in, and when I hear his name and the highlights, I'm tuned in. So the most exciting garbage time players, and I say that respectfully, we'll chop it up. And we got more Kavino and Rich in for Colin on the herd.

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Oh, yeah, and football. And football. And football, because we're real excited about the Super Bowl, man. So you brought up Ronnie James, and I love to disagree with Kavino. That's what I do for fun. That's what I do for a living. But I agree with him 100% when he said,

with all the respect, Bronny James might be the most exciting garbage time player ever. And you give a great example, too. It's usually when it's the kid of a player, I'll be honest. Let's see, the little nerdy white dude on the end of the bench or the seven-footer. In the NBA, there's always that guy where you're like, oh, get him in. Now, to me, I know this. It's like sort of the Rudy of the Lucas of the team.

It's the fan favorite after a while, and he's that guy. And let's make it clear, too, again, for the hurt audience, we don't hate on Brony James. Not at all, man. At all. In fact, we're rooting for the kid. He's just a kid, man. He's got a lot of pressure on him. His dad's putting all this pressure on him.

So when I see him deliver, you know, I get excited for him. I do. Also, I feel like it kind of opened the door for the Lakers to be their own man and not have to clear everything through LeBron for this Luca trade. Because, in a sense, they felt like, we, did you a solid with your son. It's almost like when you do someone a solid or a good, we don't know you anymore. It's funny you bring that up to him. Yeah, because I thought about that in a lot of different ways too, because when you saw LeBron's reaction to it publicly, he seemed to be cool with it. And I'm wondering if they said things to him like, look, man, Luca knows the deal

with Brani moving forward, you know, or we're still going to look out for Brony moving forward. Or if LeBron said something like, yo, listen, guys, you're not keeping me in the loop. About brawny. Right. You know, like, yeah, in my opinion, they said all the right things after the fact, too, to keep them happy. And let him feel like, yeah, this was still a part of keeping the winning tradition for Brony or something, right? How's that flat screen TV doing that I helped you wall him out? Yeah, exactly.

It's sort of like that. You know, when you bring up garbage time players, I'm going to make it a little kinder. Sure. I mean, it's just an expression. It's not meant to be a disc. But Garbage Time player is also translation like backup fan favorite, you know, utility guy, because I have two that come to mind as a Mets fan. Oh my God.

Jose Iglesias was a dude that the Mets got from the Tigers, like, minor league deal, brought him up. Candalita. He's a Latino music star. That's 300 in key spots for the Mets. And he becomes the rally cry of a team that had an amazing playoff run. So you could say Jose Iglesias went from, like, utility garbage guy to a key component of a really fun playoff run. You know who I think of when you say that as a Yankees fan?

And by the way, yeah, that would be a great example. And he stepped up. In fact, no one has signed him yet. And I'm like, I just think, like, by no number. means a charity case the guy delivers but I feel like just for just for vibes the Mets how do you move on for it? I also think not only do the fans

rally around that type of player the team rallies around that type of player. You see how LeBron reacts when his son scores it's actually endearing to watch like wow he's his heart is out there when his son is playing when he's scoring and the team knows that too say they're rallying around Brani whether

you think it's fair or not it might be good for the team I think of as the Yankees fan Louis Soho Who wasn't like the greatest player ever, but the fans and the team rallied around that dude, and he came through all the time. He was sort of a garbage time utility guy that stepped up and people loved them. He doesn't know who comes to one in baseball, and then I got a couple of football ones. Well, now baseball sort of abuses a little bit because they're always still in position players into pitch during a blowout.

That's more than ever before we've seen that. I was going to say, well, take you back like 10 plus years. He was around the league on different teams. Do you remember Super Joe McEwing? Yeah, of course. Like Darrow says always those guys. And now in the NFL, you could say it's backup quarterbacks that when they get a chance, eyes are peeled. Before he was a starter.

And then what happens is they become starters and they lose that appeal. I know where you got. Gardner Minchu. Number one. The pasturnot. Oh, yeah. I mean, we're talking about guys that when they got a shot, you're like, oh, man. But then sadly, they lose that appeal when they got the job.

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Who comes to mind for you? Yeah. Honestly, it's a compliment. It's not an insult. No, no, no. It's awesome. It's the fan favorites. Now, listen, coming up next, Vince Will Fork.

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