The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Herd Hierarchy, Chiefs, Prescott

Episode Date: November 15, 2022

Colin's new NFL Herd Hierarchy Thoughts on the Chiefs being atop of the AFC again Cowboys QB Dak Prescott reminds Colin of a more talented Tim Tebow   Guest: Nick WrightSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's our two. It is a Tuesday. We're live in L.A. It's the hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio. And FS1, it is great to have you in. I think Jason and I feel the same way about the Philadelphia Eagles exposed a little bit, but it's the harsh reality of what happens Thanksgiving and on or close to Thanksgiving and on. You don't get all the fumbles going your way. Sometimes your quarterback is on the bench, watching. the other team run and eat the clock. It happens. Yeah, we feel the same way about the Eagles. I wonder, Colin, if we feel the same way about the New York Jets and the herd hierarchy. When doing the herd hierarchy, it's not standings. Oh.

It is, it gets really bunched up. So if you look at my 10th team, I believe, I always use the word sustainable. For instance, is Gino Smith playing great sustainable? Is Zach Wilson's 5-1? Is that sustainable? Not really. Okay, 5.2 is what, 7-0? Is that sustainable? I think high level of play in Miami is sustainable.

Doesn't mean he's Josh Allen or Mahomes. So here we go. Here's my herd hierarchy on a Tuesday. Heard hierarchy. Time is now. Let's go. The top 10 NFL team. according to college. Number 10. I think Tennessee is the best coach team in the league.

How do you get the Chiefs in Arrowhead to overtime without a first half in the second half? They're six and one in their last seven games. Their defense is the best in the league on third down. And Derek Henry, five of his last six games, is running for 100 yards. And they've done this with a banged up quarterback spot. This is an incredibly well-coached team. They win ugly.

We forget they were the number one seed last year. They are physical. They can overcome. I have to put Tennessee in there. Six and three. I've got to put them in there. Tennessee at 10. Number nine.

What do I do with the Cowboys? Were they exposed? Well, they had four penalties on 15 snaps and overtime. Welcome to their reality. They are great at getting to the quarterback and creating pressure. But, and this has to be said, DAC has been atrocious on third and fourth down throws this year. They're not a good situational football team.

I don't believe you can win multiple playoff games. if you're nine. Number eight. I love the Ravens. I love everything about them. They drive me nuts. Only team in the league to lead by 10 plus points in every game. Eight straight games with at least 150 yards rushing.

That hasn't been done since the mid-80s. They're like Philadelphia, but they've sustained it for years and years. Lamar's a playmaker. They're getting a little healthier, but they've had key injuries. Gus Edwards, Mark Andrews, Rashad Bateman. They're perpetually banged up. But in big games, Lamar and John Harbaugh win a lot of them, and I've got him at eight. Number seven.

Buffalo. Listen, we like them. They're the knockout artist without a jab and movement. They're a flawed team. Josh Allen leads the NFL with 10 picks and three in the red zone. And I think Brian Day Bowl leaving, this is not Kansas City's offense where they can move off offensive coordinators and you don't really notice. Brian Day Bowl leaving, this team's not as good in the second half offense. offensively, they're not as good in the red zone.

In the last three games for Josh Allen, he's not accurate. He's completing 58% of his throws. So again, you know, I always use Mike Tyson, the great fighter with no jab. Tyson was at his best when he had a great trainer and a great corner man. Later in his career he didn't, and he was just a guy with a big knockout punch. Is that what Buffalo has become? I have him at seven. Number six.

The dolphins, I think, you know, I think they're as real as they're going to be. They're 7 and 0 and 2 is healthy. I think they have one of the smart young coaches in football. I mean, two is touchdown to interception ratio. It's very Drew Brees, which was his comp coming out of college, and I thought it was crazy. He just doesn't throw any interceptions. He's got three giveaways all year. So they know what they are.

They do it well. You know, and as Buffalo goes into the tank, you know, I think to myself tomorrow, Buffalo Miami play, neutral field, I think I'd take Miami. They already beat them once. I don't like what I see from Buffalo in the second half of games. Miami's a well-earned six. Number five. Cincinnati.

I think that's the one team that Kansas City doesn't want to play. Number one scoring team in the league since week six, Joe Burroughs, one of three quarterbacks completing 70% of his throws. And they're doing that now without Jamar Chase. If Joe Mixon and this own line can consistently run the football, they could beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead. And I don't think there's many teams that qualify for that. I don't know if two could go up there and do it.

I don't think Buffalo now could do it. Cincinnati's a handful. And because you can't name three of their defensive players, we overlook them. It's a real defense. Like second half, good luck scoring on them. Number four. Vikings. They're getting a little bit of Philadelphia where they're winning the turnover battle a lot.

And that stuff usually has a ceiling. But we've got to be realistic here. They're eight and one. They're winning close games. You know, we're talking about Brian Dable. How about that coach? The tall Sean McVeigh, they've been terrific situationally. Now, I don't think their defense is great.

They have generated a pass rush in key spots, but I still think there are limitations. They're the kind of team that you could score on quickly over the top, I feel like. They could outplay you and you could beat them. But right now they're winning the close ones. They're at four. Number three. I love the Niners. I think it's the most talented team in the league.

Number one, total defense. Number two in yardage differential. held each of their last two opponents, scoreless in the second half. They have a pro-bowl level player in every single unit on the field. And they're getting guys back. Elijah Mitchell running back, back, Debo Samuel, they got their fullback back. Yeah. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo is not the kind of guy that's going to bring you back from 17 down,

but they have not lost a game when he hasn't had a pick. There is a way they have to play to win, but physically. they're really good. I got them at three. Number two. Philadelphia 2. I don't feel different about Philadelphia today. I just think it illuminates the truth that if they don't win the turnover battle and they're trailing in the second half, they're not Kansas City. It's a very good football team. They're not going anywhere to J-Max's point.

They lost a crucial interior defender and now teams are running on them. But they're only team in the league top five offense and top five defense. And I don't have any real criticism other than eventually teams like Philly and Minnesota. don't win the turnover battle every game. Number one. I mean, Kansas City. I mean, here's how good Kansas City is. They're 27th in turnover differential, minus four.

And they're still the best team in the league. Patrick Mahomes has thrown a touchdown to 10 different receivers. To tell you how, when you get the perfect combination of superstar coach, superstar quarterback, you're losing the turnover battle. You had to rebuild the defense three years ago, the O line two years ago. the wide receiver room this year and doesn't affect them at all. We're looking at arguably the most talented quarterback ever, arguably after Bill Walsh, the smartest offensive coach ever,

great ownership, brilliant GM. The fact that they have had to reboot three different parts of their team in three or four years and it has had no adverse effect on the franchise is remarkable. Buffalo's been trying to create a run game for four years. They can't do it. Kansas City 1, Nick Wright co-host, First Things First, joins us live. Oh, what? Oh, that was so nice.

It was just delightful, just listening to you wax poetic about a team that, you know, was going to have its hands full with your beloved Russell Wilson and those plucky chargers. But, I mean, you nailed it. the fact that the Chiefs have been awful either by luck or by their own doing when it comes to turnovers this year. That they are bottom six in the league and plus minus. And they have the second best, well, the best record in the AFC, the third best record overall in football. And by the way, here's the other thing. Strength of schedule, they have the 31st most difficult schedule the rest of the way, Colin.

They played eight straight games to start the year against teams, the president. previous year at a winning record. They got through at six and two. So all their toughest games, except for the game against Cincinnati already behind them. So yeah, I mean, I agree with everything you said about the Chiefs. I wish you were saying it this offseason, but better late than never, I suppose,

my friend. I'm slow on stuff. So I said this. Let's just say this. If Brian Daibble is maybe as good as we think, I mean, I was out on Daniel Jones and now like, I don't know. I don't know.

If he is that good, can we make the argument that Josh Allen will never be Josh Allen again? College, wild, early Buffalo wild, now wild. And it was this brilliant offensive guy that sandpapered him. And now he's reverting back to what he was, which is, oh, my Lord, he's taking huge swings. He's not accurate. I mean, my takeaway is Josh is amazing. But if you look at how good day bowl is, you may never duplicate that. again. You may never get another Brian Dayball in Buffalo.

Well, I also think it's worth noting that Josh Allen has been a Pro Bowl level player one year. Last year, Mack Jones made the Pro Bowl. Josh Allen did not. This year, Patrick Mahomes would be a Pro Bowler. Tua would be a Pro Bowler. I would have Burrow and Lamar ahead of Josh as of this moment. That would put him fifth in his own conference. I understand everyone is wowed by the athleticism and the armed talent, and he is, and I have said this, and I will say it again, he is the only quarterback in the league outside of possibly Lamar, that if they are playing their very best,

they can match Mahomes' very best. His A-plus game is as good as anybody. The problem is you have no idea if you're going to get it, and he leads the NFL on interceptions. He's third in the NFL in interceptions plus fumbles. He leads the NFL double second place in interceptions or fumbles in the red zone. This is a trend for this team and for Josh. And so, yeah, it is why I pushed back so hard on this idea that he was the best player in the league.

He has moments when he looks like the best player in the league. And then moments when he reverts back to a guy. who in the first playoff game of his life was running down the sideline, panicked, and threw the ball blindly over the back of his head. Some people forget that, Colin. I will never forget that. That is a moment where I'm like, okay, I kind of know who you are and who you are at your core.

And one last thing for the bills. It would be concerning to me if I were a fan of the bills that what is arguably the best playoff game we have seen in the last decade. And what is arguably the best regular season game we have seen in the last few years, the bills were in both of them and found a way to lose them both when they were 99% to win them both at one point. That would concern me. Yeah, Packers and Vikings were both lifeless and the bills kind of injected life into them in those games. So I watched the Cowboys and I said, you know, it's the $50,000 millionaire, flashy car.

But if you followed him home, he lives in an apartment. that Dallas, there's a lot of flash and splash, but when you get to the core of them, DAC situationally has been awful. You can run on them. We don't trust McCarthy situationally. And I watched it and I said, this is kind of why I've been a cowboy cynic,

I think mostly you have for 20 years, is that there's a lot of things on the surface, but when you dig deeper, follow them home, it's a lot of fraudulent stuff. What was your takeaway on their loss? Well, two things. One is, I don't know if that was an intentional play on words or not, but you know I used to live in Houston.

Yeah. And what you just described the $50,000 millionaire is there's a little Houston-Dalice rivalry, is what people from Houston say about people from Dallas all the time. That exact thing. So I don't know if you knew that, and that's why you're calling the Cowboys that, or it's just a happy coincidence,

but it made me smile now to the Packers game. If you had three concerns for the Cowboys going into the Packers game, they would have been number one. Our defense has been historically great. Is it maybe not quite that good? Well, that showed up in the Packers game. Forget the run defense. We've got folks saying Micah Parsons is Lawrence Taylor 2.0.

And you have the Packers down 14 and a fourth and seven, and you let Aaron Rogers throw a seed down the field and all of a sudden to spark the comeback. So a small concern about the dominant defense check. Concern number two would have been, Dak Prescott, is he going to make the critical error? I think Green Bay, Colin, might have folded up shop if the Cowboys went up two scores immediately in that game.

Green Bay went missed field goal, three and out, fumble. And Dallas was up 7-0 inside the 10 after the fumble, and Dak threw a really bad pick, which breathed some life into Green Bay, then he threw another pick later. So there's Check 2. And Check 3 is, of course, Mike McCarthy. And here's my hypothesis on why McCarthy decided,

because it's not just that they went for it on fourth down, Colin. It's that he claimed afterwards they knew they were going for it on fourth down, which, if that's true, how you don't run the ball on third down. You have third and three. If you know it's two-down territory, Tony Pollard's getting five and a half yards per carry. How do you not give him the ball? But the reason I think McCarthy didn't kick the field goal there was because he was afraid of Aaron Rogers. Because he made this game very personal and I think very much about his history there.

And if they kick the field goal, even if they make it, you're guaranteeing Aaron Rogers gets the ball back. If you go for it and you get it and you score a touchdown and keep Aaron Rogers off the field. for a team that is supposed to be defense first, you're supposed to kick that field goal and trust that an offense that hadn't done anything for two months is not going to get a touchdown scored on them. So, yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly. And last point, with the Eagles lost last night,

if Dallas had taken care of business against Green Bay, they'd control their own destiny for that division. They'd be at two losses with the game against Philly coming up. So it's a brutal loss for them. So they're not a popular team, the Kyrie Irving situation, well documented and discussed. But he missed his seventh straight game, I think it was recently. It'll be seven will be tonight. Seven will be tonight.

He's not playing tonight. It was seven tonight. My argument, well, I said a year ago, for the first time in my life, my whole career, I said, I'm going to say something. I've never said this. I would trade a star for rotational players. He's a culture and coach killer. and Kevin Durant is just lifting the team, he pulls him back.

Lifting the team, he pulls him back. I would have moved off him. I think he's a losing player. They're actually much better defensively and at times offensively without Kyrie. I don't know it's combustible. I think other teams are interested, but there's so much baggage. If I had to say, what happens to Kyrie for the next year, Nick Wright? You have season tickets.

You know the organization. You watch every game. How's this going to play out? I think it's on the board he never plays again for the Nets. I think that there's a lot of factors at that. One is they've flatly been better without him. They play defense without him.

They let KD do this point forward thing. Now part of that I'm sure is that Jacques Vaughn is there, but I do not think for the Brooklyn Nets he adds to winning. You then add to the fact that Kevin Durant, you know, all of it last week, had to like send out a tweet because he had given an unfortunate, you know, comment in a media scrum where he was like, I wish the organization had just, you know, stayed quiet. And all of a sudden, KD, everyone in the organization is, you know, being tangentially kind of quizzed

and queried on their feelings on anti-Semitism, which nobody signed up for. And you mentioned that I've seasoned tickets. Joe Sye, obviously, you know, either goes to these games or his people going to these games, the owner of the team. When you ever since the Kyrie stuff blew up, when you get off the train on Atlantic Avenue to go into Barclays, you have what is can only be, you know, what are people demonstrating passing out literature about that is either tangentially or directly related to that movie Kyrie promoted. It's a mess, man. and I don't think the Nets want to be in that business, particularly for a player that I do not think has added to their winning at all.

And in fact, Kyrian has last six years in this league. His teams, when he plays and when he doesn't play, it's over six years. They win almost the exact same percentage of games. So I just, I don't think the Nets are a championship team with or without him, but they have shown more of a heart and pulse without him. I would not be surprised if they simply move on from him. Again, it was a five-game suspension.

He's not traveling with the team tonight. That's game number seven. Something's going on there. By the way, I only have a minute left. You're an encyclopedia on the NBA. And I'm going to throw this at it. We were talking. KD. said LeBron's one of the best players ever, two or three.

And I say everybody makes lists. You've made pyramids, lists. You're great at this stuff. But I said if you said the four best basketball players, because we always say the Mount Rushmore thing, the four best players I've seen, and you have to have watched them in their prime. So I can't count wilt. I didn't see him in his prime. The four best players I've ever seen, I'm going to give them to you and you react. Kareem, no order.

Kareem, Michael LeBron Magic. That's correct. Okay. You have it right. Okay. You have it right. All right. And by the way, I think that that is the correct order.

for all of NBA history. With respect to Russell, I think Russell would be the odd man out there. But here's the funny thing about Katie's comments. Katie said top two and then paused and went top three. I do not believe that's because he was including Kareem. I believe that's because KD was including Kobe. Katie and Kobe had a very tight relationship.

I think KD has a respect for Kobe's game that's different than the respect he has for LeBron's. I think KD on, again, I'm speculating here. Kevin, don't get upset. But I think that on a truth serum, KD's top three would be Michael Kobe LeBron. I think that, of course, is ludicrous. There is no argument about the top three. It is in one order or another, Kareem, Michael, and LeBron. We can argue about the order.

Number four, there is an argument, but I agree with you. I think it's Magic Johnson. And, you know, I obviously didn't see Cream in his prime, but like you said, you know, I tried to write a book on it instead of a podcast series on it. I'm pretty well studied. That's the correct top four. So look, Colin, you started the segment being right about the Chiefs. You end the segment with an impeccable NBA list.

You know, you always say that you mentor me. The relationship might be flipping a bit. might be a little turnabout, my friend. Oh, that happened a long time ago. I rely on your wisdom all the time if people only knew. Nick Wright, first thing's first. Great show, by the way. They're off to a great start.

New York, Kevin Wilde's, Bruce Arn, Nick Wright. Really fun show. And, all right. That's the four. See, Mac, you can learn something from Nick and I. You're the young, we're the mentor for you now. That's the four. No, no, no, no, no.

I'm still hot and bothered by Titans at 10. Jets at 11. I didn't... By the way. Listen to any of that because I'm just looking at all the numbers, Colin, I'm not even making this up.

Yards per play, Jets over the Titans. Net yards per play, Jets over the Titans. Football outsiders, DVOA, Jets above the Titans. This newer stat, EPA, expected points added,

Jets over the Titans. Literally, there's not one stat that says the Tennessee Titans are a better football team than the New York Jets. Got a better coach. I mean, that's it. That's all you got.

Vrable oversaw. That's it? Man, I think the Jets manage their quarterback situation. That's accurate. I trust Tanna Hill and Vrable in a big game against the Jets. I really hope they face off in the first round. Jets get the wild card. Titans at home.

Jets go and just smash them. They just got to lock them down. I mean, that Tennessee team is criminally overrated. By the way, Packers' Titans, Thursday night. What do you think the line is for that? Titans are going to roll them. Titans are going to roll the Packers. What the line is, where's the game?

Green Bay, I believe. Green Bay minus two and a half. Three. It was started at one, bet up to three. I'll take the Titans. What you think that early money is? Public guys, $100 bets or smart guys? I think smart guys.

Numbers guys. Nobody likes the Titans, Colin. Nobody. You do. I just, like I always say, remember the Titans. They're easy to forget. Remember the Titans. One more herd.

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Coverage begins at one Eastern on Fox and anywhere on the Fox Sports app. It'll be a very, very important World Cup for USA. You're going to bet the U.S. in that game, right? I like the USA against Wales. I do. I think the surprise of the tournament will be Canada. So the whole, the World Cup's biggest surprise will be Canada. Interesting. And I think the most fascinating team is England because there's a ton of talent,

but they have historically disappointed. A lot of pressure on England. People think this is the most talented, deepest team. So keep your eye on England in our group. And Canada was the one team that we played in the States. we played, you know, kind of tuning up for the World Cup, that I absolutely thought we were not as good as. Yeah, Brazil's got such a deep roster.

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This is the herd line news. Let's revisit Monday night football for a moment. Eagles lost to the commanders. The final score was a little deceiving, given that. luky lateral touchdown thing at the end. Didn't feel deceiving to me, but go ahead. But, but, but, this was the play of the game. Taylor Heineke, look at this.

Heads up, crafty play by the 29-year-old quarterback. They love him in Washington. Listen, Colin, you got to be real here. He took the knee. He knew if he threw an incompletion, the clock would stop. Let me take a knee. What? Brandon Graham, veteran making a dumb move.

Now, Brandon Graham did speak out about it. And here's what he said. I'm going to take that one on the chin. Of course, we are all going to fly. flush it and move on, but I'm definitely going to take that one. I let the team down in a situation like that. We can't put the game in the refs' hands. In that position, I just got to know if he goes down, it's okay.

For me, I was just hustling to make a play, try to make sure he was down. Yeah, by the way, he's a very good player. It's not that big of a deal. You were going to lose the game anyway. I like that he's owning it. But it was a very clever, crafty play by a player who has to be that to win, and that's fine. Make up for his deficiencies in other aspects. Absolutely. I've seen guys my whole life in front.

pro sports. They're just smart, clever, crafty guys. And it's like, oh, all right. You know, there's like a Matthew Delavadova. Do you remember him when he was pesky with Steph Curry? I know that people are going to say, oh, you're just picking white guys, Taylor Heineke, Matthew Delavadova. This is like basically undersized guys who have no business being in the NFL. Taylor Heineke was studying for his engineering master's degree when Washington called him a few years ago. We're like, hey, we need a guy in the practice. I think NBA's had a lot of guys like this. find a way to be valuable. Yeah.

I mean, some guys are talented. They're just old. Andre Aguadala has become an incredibly crafty player. How long has he been in the league? Well, a better example, Patrick Beverly. Small guard, very limited offensively, but you know what? He's going to get after you defensively.

He's like kind of a mascot. Every team he goes to. They love him. The fans love the hustle and the tenacity. There's something to that. Listen, as players get older, this kid's 29 years old. Most athletes, you age, you play.

play the game, you see the tricks, and you're, you know, when you're, maybe when you're a great athlete, you don't have to worry about the nuances of it. Josh Allen doesn't worry as much about the nuances. But if you have an arm like Matt Ryan, or you have to worry more about the nuances of it. So it's like, I think it's a- Taylor Hineke's playing with house money, come. I mean, he's, he had no clue that he was going to be in the NFL on a team that he made the playoffs. You remember he started against Tampa a few years back? That was a very competitive game. It was.

I don't think he covered the spread. But, yes, they were at home. All right. Next up, boy, bad news for the Rams. Rams fans in the last hour just got word. Cooper Cup, high ankle sprain. Surgery required. He's going on IR.

Well, USC, UCLA play this weekend. So officially the Rams are not interesting. Rams are done. It's over. You know, listen, it sounds like Matt Stafford's coming back. I don't know why. I'm going to be honest with you. That offensive line's terrible.

Well, they don't have a first round pick. It's not like losing helps them. It'd be one thing if they had a first round pick. But losing could hurt them if something happens to Matt Stafford behind the line. He's getting killed this year. I would, you know, Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup, Stafford I'm with. I would consider moving Jalen Ramsey if I could get a number one pick. I think you have to do a little bit of a subtle rebuild here in spaces.

And I think you're a little top heavy on money. I think you have to get some picks here. They got a second and a third. I try to get a first. I think you went all in, you got a Super Bowl, but because you're so cash, you know, you're so top-heavy, you couldn't keep Von Miller, you couldn't keep OBJ. It looks like the Allen Robinson thing is wasted money. So I think you've got to go back, get some draft capital. You can do it, by the way.

You can get draft capital pretty quick. Good teams in this league are always looking to make a deal for a star. Your staff came up with a good number here. Matt Stafford, passing to Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup represented 32% of their offensive production. And we got some stats. In the last two years, there has not been a better receiver in the NFL in Cooper Cup. I mean, period.

End of story. Look at those numbers. Workhorse. Staggering. Like, people know it's going on. 2,800 receiving years. And he's still unguarded. Cooper Cup, incredible.

Just a huge loss. Also, he's on my fantasy team. I'm desperate if anyone has any suggestions. They are big underdogs against saints. Saints are four-point favorites. They should be. Well, started minus one, I think. So Cooper Cup is viewed as a three-point swing.

Well, there's also some uncertainty about Stafford. Are you going to bring Stafford back without Cooper Cup and a bad offensive line on the road? Well, and he also has a dinged-up. Yeah, like, what's the rush? Just put the Wolf of Wall Street out there. I think I like the Saints there. But James Winston comes back. All bets are off because you don't know if that guy could throw three pick-sixes.

Final story, this is a little spicy. Tampa Bay ended their three-game skid with the win. in week nine. However, Colin, Bruce Ariens recently spoke about the team's struggles, giving credit to, wait for it, Todd Bowles and pointed the finger of blame at Tom Brady. Here's Bruce Ariens. I don't think it was fair to Byron. Nobody is going to say that Brady was playing bad, but he was playing bad. We also had growing pains on the young offensive front, and we weren't running well. There comes a time as a play caller when you're losing yards running the ball and you say

forget this, I'm putting the ball in Tom's hands. Colin? Moose-air hands and Tom Brady reportedly a lot of issues last year. This is why I say, I believe Brady and San Francisco, the Niners will have discussions. I don't know what transpires. Now he's

divorced. He has no loyalty to Tampa at all. He's got no loyalty. He won a Super Bowl there. I don't think it's his kind of town. I live there. That's not Tommy's town. It's fine. It's fine, but it's not... What is it Tommy Town? San Francisco. Big City. New York. Tech money. New York.

London. San Francisco. L.A. Tom's big. Huge brand. Tampa's a great little town. But it's a big... But you can market the TB12 stuff to the old people in Florida. Come on. It's a gold mine for Tom Brady. I don't know if San Francisco's buying what he's selling. But in all seriousness,

listen, Bruce Sarians basically has stayed out of the media all season. And now he jumps in to defend the coach and OC and take a dump on Tom Brady? Listen, what's that all about? The longer you're around as a public figure, it's going to go bad. That's why you should all retire early. Brady literally three years ago was the gold standard of everything. Divorce, getting crapped on by Aryans, barking at teammates, the ownership Miami thing.

It's been a weird for his brand, a weird three years for Brady. And most of it's been ugly. A lot of it's been on. Should Brady just say, I'm done. I'm walking away. I'm going to go enjoy life. No, I think if you're a public figure, everybody eventually gets crapped on. It's just, it's a matter of when, unless you retire early.

But there are no, nobody's popular. I mean, Obama got crushed for wearing a beige suit. I mean, that's just the reality of the world we live in. Everybody, I saw, what's that singer? Taylor Swift? She literally had an album. All 10 songs made the top 10. Nobody gets dragged on the internet like Taylor Swift.

I mean, nobody ever says. Losers hating on Taylor Swift. Well, I'm just saying it. Hey, nobody's come after you. You got the number one radio show in the country. Oh, that's a good point. Nobody ever comes after me. I think it got bumped up to number one when I got here, right?

Is that when it ascended to the top spot? Yeah, that's it. All right, J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. It's just Tommy should have just shut her down after that Super Bowl. That's what Elway did.

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and purpose on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free, our heart radio app. Search, learn the hard way, and listen now. You know, long ago, I stopped trying to argue with DAC Prescott supporters. It's very obvious. The more the Cowboys have leaned on DAC

to lead them through the years, the worst the offensive lines become, as much as Zeke regresses, they rely more on Dack, and the truth comes out with Dack. He's not special. He's got great leadership skills. He's tough. He's mobile. That stuff was all out of college.

But like Kirk Cousins, who I've compared him to, you saw the real Kirk Cousins by like year two. There was no more ceiling. That was Kirk Cousins. And that's what I feel about Dack. By year two, halfway through it, that was Dak. Josh Allen, big ceiling. Burrow, big ceiling. Kyler, big ceiling.

Lamar, big ceiling. With Dak and Kirk Cousins, middle of year two, that's kind of what they were. Dak has always been kind of tough, better than average mobility, great, great leadership skills. And in college, at least, he was a winner. He wins a lot of games. And in the NFL, Kirk and Dak have won a lot of games. And Jerry Jones, despite DAC having a rough year and some key spots, is behind his guy.

That I look at of our chance to win a championship is DAC and his leadership at that position. Now, does that mean that Dak's going to win every game or make every comeback or every key situation? You can answer that one. Of course not. But by the same token, if you were constructing the possibility of competing for a Super Bowl, I would start on this team. I would start right there with Dak. He is the best leader on the team, and I would start there with Dak as a leader. But when he came into the NFL, I said he reminds me of a more talented Tim Tebow.

Both played in the SEC. Both are tough. Both are great leaders. Both have kind of a value system I like, decent guys, pretty mobile, though not great mobile, but better than average mobile, thick, tough guys who you can really build around, good at the podium. Well, kids, are you ready for this on third and fourth down this season? Dak's numbers are the lowest since Tebow.

Even Dan Mullen once came on their show and said, yeah, he never threw a great ball. There was never a big ceiling for Dak. He's Kirk Cousins. What you saw by year two is what you got. Now, numbers can change based on receivers. O line. But like I'm done arguing with the DAC fans. And DAC now isn't young, isn't always healthy, and isn't cheap.

So now you can't surround him with a second or third great receiver. Yeah, DAC's not young anymore. And DAC's not cheap anymore. And you can't afford to buy a great O line around DAC. You have to draft and develop. So the early DAC and the current DAC are the same athletically, same arm. The difference is the young, cheap one, I can surround with better players. So I think at some level, I've always felt the more you lean on deck, the more reality sets in.

So I want to talk about that Jim Ursay thing. So Ersay, Jim Ersay is a very, very successful guy. He had a tweet yesterday about Jeff Saturday's win. He said, all you critics, you criticize us in the NFL for losing. When we make a move to win, you act so righteous. who you crap and just win, baby. Listen, football is a game of emotion. Anything can happen.

Out west this weekend, Arizona beat UCLA in the Rose Bowl. Last night, the commanders crushed Philadelphia and Philadelphia. Matt Ryan this weekend had a 40-yard scramble. Okay, it's football. Driven by emotion. Anything can happen. But when things tend to feel strange,

anything in life that feels strange, it usually is. Elon Musk is going to buy Twitter. I'm here for it, but it, it's kind of weird. Kind of feels strange. And so far, it has been. Kevin Durant, leaving the Warriors for Brooklyn. Oh, no, that's not, that's, that's going to be weird. It has been weird.

Unregulated currency will grow to the sky, Bitcoin. Yeah, did briefly. Donald Trump's running for president. The country's been wacky ever since. If something sounds strange, usually is. Jeff Saturday going from broadcaster to head coach of the Colt sounds a little off. Now again, it's a game of emotion. Arizona beat UCLA.

Matt Ryan had a 40-yard scramble. Commanders clobbered Philadelphia. But the next month for the Colts, they face Philly, they're at Dallas, they're at Minnesota. Let's give it a few. Jeff Saturday is really smart, really gets it. the only thing that was surprising to me is how, quote, outraged Bill Cowher was and Rex Ryan was and Joe Thomas was. I wasn't outraged by it. This is an organization that's gotten increasingly impulsive over the last several years.

They've had four quarterbacks in four years. You have an owner that appears to be meddling in the coaching, coordinating, and quarterback position. So, you know, that's, I'm not surprised by any of it. I mean, when it first happened, we were on the air. And we were like, that's odd. And stuff that is odd and sounds odd and is a little off usually eventually is. But I'm not surprised Jeff Saturday won a game. Dan Campbell won his first road game in a year and a half in Detroit.

He beat Chicago this weekend, barely. Dan Campbell was once given the Miami Dolphins job, former player, tough guy, real presence. Jeff's a big guy, real presence. And the team just played like crazy. If you don't think presence matters, Ed Orgeron won a national title. Ed Orgeron's a legendary presence when you're around him, the gravelly voice, the presence, the humor, is he a great coach? Certainly argue about that.

But it matters. A big man with a presence. Among other men, a lot of emotion. I'm not shocked they won. I mean, Raiders right now are trying to find themselves. But it is, let's take a deep breath on this stuff, right? What do they call it, overreaction Monday? It's like overreaction, Jeff Saturday.

They got some tough games coming up against some teams playing for playoff spots, some of those on the road. Even the Steelers game, which they should win, that's a go-either-way game. You think Frank Reich said, man, why couldn't I start Matt Ryan? Maybe. All right. Hour three. Oh, my goodness.

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