The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Herd Hierarchy, Wilson, Lakers

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

Colin's new Herd Hierarchy Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson didn't see eye to eye Thoughts on Lakers media day   Guest: Lane JohnsonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:24 heard. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go, hour two. We've got a great next 30 minutes. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening, IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. All right, a couple of minutes. Heard hierarchy. Then we go to Lane Johnson, who has not allowed a sack this year, the dominant tackle. for the Philadelphia Eagles who are playing out of their mind. You know, when you go into these big, you know, Cowboys Giants games or Packer Bear games, we both like Dallas yesterday.
Starting point is 00:03:09 We both like Green Bay over Chicago. Although I would say that New York right now has got at least a little bit of a pulse offensively. The Bears don't. And also the Giants have an offensive coach. So I think they'll get the most out. I mean, Kenny Gullady is stealing money. Offensive line outside of left tackle for the Giants of Mass. They just, this is a real.
Starting point is 00:03:30 rebuilding job and have the seven boxes you need to check in the NFL to win. Left tackle for the Giants is excellent. Head coach is an I think. And then, I mean, Seyquan Barclay is not a box. You don't need a great running back. I think he plays well, but that's not a box you have to have. By the way, did you notice primetime unders, eight and two this season? All the primetime games are super low scoring.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Okay. Almost bordering on boring. Okay. Daniel Jones, what is he in prime time? Terrible. 0 and 9. Okay, so say what you want. Burrow in big TV games has been a step-up guy.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's fair. Cousins and Daniel Jones, the bright lights, shrink. We've talked about this all the time. Some guys are uptight, they're anxious, the shoulders are always tight, Kirk Cousin shrinks in big spots, and I like him. And I think Daniel Jones has something, but if you're 0 and 9 in the big games, by the way, the Giants are also better on the road. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 That tells you Daniel Jones doesn't like playing at home. You know who likes playing at home? Brady, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Jalen Hertz, Lamar Jackson. Yeah. When you don't like playing at home, what does that tell you? If you like the road games, better than the home games? Probably not built for it. I don't know if he's built for it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yeah. All right, here we go, the herd hierarchy. Let's roll. Heard hierarchy. Time is now. Let's go. The top 10 NFL teams, according to college. Number 10.
Starting point is 00:04:58 All right, don't sell your Minnesota Vikings stock. They have the Saints and the Bears coming up. They're going to get really, really healthy. Their only loss came on the road to the Eagles, and a lot of people think the Eagles are the best team in the league. Now, their defense is an issue. They hired an offensive coach. They have regressed defensively.
Starting point is 00:05:16 They're giving up like 415 yards a game. Don't sell all your stock here. They're going to get healthy. Schedule lightens up. They did thump the Packers, Vikings at 10. Number nine. The Rams, I have them lower than everybody else. I think they're sloppy.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I think they are missing their center, downgrade at left tackle. Camakers fumbled again at the goal line. Is Alan Robinson washed? He can't get open. Van Jefferson's out for another month and a half. Now, Matthew Stafford has a lot of picks, but he also leads the NFL, completing 72% of his throw. So Stafford gives you, you get the penthouse and the outhouse. It's the classic.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You get great and you get some trouble. But they're giving the ball away this year. Seven giveaways through three games. They're too sloppy. I think their head coach and culture is winning games right now. They're not right. The fact they're in the top 10, and I think they've got a million questions, speaks to how good McVe and the overall culture of the organization is.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I have them nine. Number eight. An inch behind the bucks. Bucks are going to be really good. They're just not healthy. Here's saying no, the bucks are good. Number one scoring defense in the NFL and the most takeaways in the NFL. So the side that Brady doesn't play for.
Starting point is 00:06:28 is nails. They're going to be really good, top three, four team in the league. They're just not healthy. I took them this week, and then I found out Mike Evans and Julio Jones could also not play. If they were healthy,
Starting point is 00:06:41 they would have beaten the Packers. They were missing Evans-Gidwin, Julio Jones. Come on. You can't take away the three best receivers for a team and ask them to beat a competent quarterback, a competent team like Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Bucks are fine. Number seven. But I like the Niners roster more. The Niners' offense is the only had two, three and outs all year, the whole season. With Tray Lantin Garapolo, how good is their personnel? Only two, three and outs all year. Lowest percentage in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Also, their defense, the only team in the league holding people under four yards of play. They are stacked defensively, stacked at weapons. Do not love their offensive line and Trent Williams is out. I would put them like three, but right now their offensive line is in flux. but they do have the Panthers and the Falcons coming up after the Rams. And I like their chances against the Rams. This is a really Buffalo-level roster. Seven for the Niners.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Number six. Bingles got right. We predicted it. They're fine. They've run more offensive plays than anybody in the league. Their top 10 in scoring defense. Joe Burrell last two games, no picks, four touchdowns. Now, they've got to run the ball better.
Starting point is 00:07:57 and they're still making too many mistakes. But again, we're going to know a lot about this team in the next two weeks because they host the weary, the tired dolphins this week, then it's the Ravens. So maybe I'm a little high on them, but I watch the second half against the Cowboys, and I watch the Jets game, and they feel right to me. Weapons, quarterback, tackles, pass rush, they feel right to me. Number five. I'll give the Dolphins credit.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Only remaining undefeated A.S. F-C team. Here's the thing about Tua. Last 12 games, dolphins are 11 and 1. They're winning games. What do I always say? You've got to be productive as a quarterback. I don't care what it looks like and he got to win games. Now, they're going to Cincinnati short week. I think they're in trouble. But I've got to be honest, first three games, two is passer ratings. He's the only guy over 100. He's doing the breeze thing and he's got great weapons. So I don't think Miami is a championship team, but I picked him to make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:09:00 This looks like a playoff team to me. Number four. I still think the Ravens are really, really good. I thought they outplayed Miami. Their defense is struggling. But a lot of that is on the back end, they got kids. But they have the number one scoring offense in the league. They have 12 offensive touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:09:17 They're the opposite of the New York Giants. They get into the end zone. The Ravens get into the end zone. Also, who leads the NFL and passer rating? their quarterback Lamar. So they're scuffing on the back end of their defense. That's why I can't make them a top three team. This is a really explosive team.
Starting point is 00:09:37 They don't settle for field goals, folks. They get in the red zone. They give you seven. In the end, that's what I say about Daniel Jones. You got to give me a point. You got to give me touchdowns. They give them to you. Number three.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Kansas City. Most of that loss to the Colts was special teams. It was a disaster. They muffed a punt. They missed an extra point. They had a fake field goal not work. They missed a 34-yard field goal. That's why they lost the game.
Starting point is 00:10:01 They had a bad special team Sunday. But they have 10 offensive touchdowns. Only the Ravens and the Lions have more. They have the best sack differential. So they're getting to the other quarterback. They're fine. They're fine. They had a really bad special team Sunday and it happens.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Number two. Philadelphia. Number one total offense. They're converting almost 49% of their third downs. Jalen Hertz is hard to defend. They move the sticks. They pick up first downs, keeping your quarterback off the field. Here's the other thing I like.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Jalen Hertz leads the NFL passing yards per attempt. So don't tell me he's thrown underneath and playing it safe. He is throwing it down the field, yards per attempt, and yards per completion. The Eagles lead. This is a big play offense. They're like a little bit like Cincinnati last year. They're taking big swings downfield. And that's for a quarterback that we thought,
Starting point is 00:10:59 accuracy issues. It's not an issue. They are a big play offense. O-lines playing great. D-Lines getting that. They may have the best combination of O-Line, D-Line, and the NFL. Number one. Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Listen, they've won 20 of their last 28 games by blowouts. They're the Mike Tyson. Don't have much of a jab, but if you're not prepared, it's over in the second round. They've gained 77 first downs. They have the best point differential. They have the best passing offense. I don't love their offensive line, and they are too Josh Allen-centric.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But my eyes tell me that's the best-looking roster in the league with an unbelievable quarterback. And the other thing is, they're so beat up defensively. They were missing three starters in the secondary. In the Miami heat? so you had more, you had less talented guys playing more snaps. And then they were missing two or three starters on the defensive line. So they were so thin going to Miami. When you go to Miami in September, you're not facing the dolphins.
Starting point is 00:12:06 You're facing the heat and the dolphins. So I think Buffalo's still number one. Speaking of number one, Lane Johnson, 10 years in the league, a third of me has been a pro bowler, has not allowed a sack on a snap this year. In fact, he hasn't allowed a sack since week of 11. of 2020. And we love him. Lane Johnson, joining us.
Starting point is 00:12:29 A man, oh, live. What a team you have. So, I mean, we've been saying this now for about six, go back to last year, is that I'm tired of hearing people criticize Jalen Hertz. Dude's productive. Dude moves the sticks, the offensive line. Was there a moment for you, Lane,
Starting point is 00:12:46 because he's a young quarterback and he's ascending? Was there a moment in his growth lane that you went, you turn to the guys and you're like, we got the guy. Like, this is going to work. I just think last year with how we responded, you know, after not having a great start, I feel like we were resilient. And I feel like really this all season we made a big leap. I feel like everybody.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But Jaylon really, I mean, has always worked. He's always had that approach. And I feel like just the pieces that we've added. It's just helped him in his transition. And obviously, nothing can really take place for experience. And the more reps that he's getting the, the more he's you're going to exceed. And, you know, I feel like just the guys that we have to help the quarterback, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:32 are making an unbelievable place, too. You know, Lane, he is a mobile quarterback. So as a dominant offensive lineman like you, you're a top five tackle in the game, as a dominant offensive lineman, do you like, would you rather have the classic pocket guy and always know what's behind you? Or do you like the fact that you, three seconds into this, thing, you may be off and running downfield. Like, how is it for you to have Jaylen as a quarterback?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I love it. I think the more dynamic you can be, the better you can present a problem to the defense. So having him back there, you know, even with our zone reach stuff and having to account for him, it changes the perception of the defense, you know, changes sometimes the rush playing the defensive line. You know, sometimes these guys don't want to break in Tain and run the hump. I feel like the States when we played them last year. So everybody has a different way of attacking him.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But for me, it's exciting, especially whatever, you know, something may break down and he can scamper and make a first down or make plays with his legs. I think they just makes their offense so much more dynamic and versatile. You know, I have to admit when I'm wrong, I do a segment every week called Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. So when I'm wrong, I just say, I whiffed. I watched Nick Seriani's opening press conference, and I said, oh, good hell, he's not ready for this room.
Starting point is 00:14:52 This is all alpha males in that room. He's nervous. Well, whatever's happening, it is working. So you're in the room. What is his coaching style? He's a great communicator. And so even with stuff that happens in the media, like he even said, hey, my first impression in Philly wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Hey, let's go learn from the tape. So, you know, he'll make fun of himself. He'll critique himself. And then, you know, usually when it comes to practice, everything is very serious. So, you know, we have a win-loss rate. You know, who won the day, offense versus defense. When we have team meetings, you go in the room, and, you know, you have to be accountable in each play.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So we'll go through each clip. You'll have, you know, who had an error on this play. So it's out there for everybody to see. But what I think it does is it makes everybody accountable. And I think it's such a good example just for the whole room. But I think what makes him exceptional is just him and the coaching staff, we just have great communicators. So anything there may be problems with gets addressed early and often, and that's like that every day.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So I feel like for a team that's really beneficial for us. You know, it's interesting. You a lot of times in the NFL, you don't go against the ones a lot, but you do occasionally. And because Jalen Hertz is so dynamic, nobody's talking about your defense. And Carson Wentz was under duress every snap. So when you go against your ones defensively,
Starting point is 00:16:21 you're better than I thought you would be. What's the secret sauce on that side? You just, I mean, we have a great D-line. I mean, you look at Fletcher Cox, you look at Jvonne Hargrave, you know, Jordan Davis, a sign, Josh Sweat, you know, whatever, you know, with Jordan Davis, if he can eat up the center, maybe a guard, you're going to isolate John Hargrave, you're going to isolate Fletcher Cox. These guys are going to have, you know, more one-on-one opportunities.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And this game's really all about matchups. You're trying to get, you know, your talent on their talent. And I feel like our D-Lines really made a big step these past two weeks, really had an exceptional game this past week. I feel, you know, as far as the O-line, I feel like we can be a complete, need to be more complete unit there in the second half. I feel like, you know, the first half has kind of been, we've been more dominant and not played as well in the second half.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So that's something that, you know, we've got to focus on. And, you know, when you play really good teams, you know, every possession counts. not allowed a sack since 2020, Lane Johnson, who's going to get Hall of Fame votes. He's 10 years in and he's got years left. You know, it's, you have played for one of the great fan bases, Oklahoma, and now for Philadelphia. I mean, rabid, crazy. And listen, it wasn't a great week for Oklahoma. I'm not going to rub it in. Not going to do that. I'm above that. I'm above that, Lane. But Philadelphia, like Oklahoma, they're crazy. This is kind of a weird question, but when you're an offensive lineman, I understand like receivers, they're always looking up at the crowd.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But does an offensive lineman feed off a crowd? I mean, are you into that as much as a star receiver? Yeah. Because a receiver or a corner is off by themselves, and when they make a play, the whole world sees it. You're kind of in that mush in the middle. Do you feed off crowds? Definitely. You know, especially like when a receiver makes a play.
Starting point is 00:18:22 big time play. You know, it's me sitting back when the ball's in the air after my block and he catched it. There's not a better feeling knowing that I get the exit of the drive and catch the air and, you know, there's a shorter drive for me. And then, you know, the running back scoring is like a tip of the hat to the old line. But no, I mean, when it comes down to it, it's all about the fans. And whenever, you know, there's a good day at the link, whenever we're rocking and rolling, there's really nothing that takes place for. So, yeah, I mean, I mean, that's what keeps you coming back. I love the energy of the fans and electricity. And it's really hard to, you know, get that anywhere else. All right, Lane. Congratulations. You always make time for us. We love you for it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And I appreciate it again, man. Congratulations. This team is absolutely for real. Congratulations. Thank you. You bet. And I did, do you see that I did not bring up the Oklahoma thing? I just, just moved very, very kind of me. I just got a text, Colin. When the Packers are six and one, will they be in Collins' hired hierarchy? Okay, okay. So I have the Jags 11 Packers 12. You cannot score one touchdown in three games in the second half in a weapons league
Starting point is 00:19:35 and make the top 10. A lot of people are tweeting at me that the Bengals went from 0 and 2 to beating my sad sack jets and went from unranked to the six spot. Okay, but that's different. They proved last year my takeaway with them was, So let's look at it again. Yeah. So let me, for instance, explain the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Now, everybody's saying, well, Burrow is on your podcast. No. So they check all the boxes. Quarterback, offensive coach, unbelievable weapons, unbelievable pass rush. So they check like most boxes. So Burrow has appendectomy surgery. Yes. Does not practice or play in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And you could see the first game. They were off. And they faced the Steelers and T.J. Watt. second half because I know I've seen them at their best. I've seen Green Bay last year lose a home playoff game and for the last two years Green Bay has not had the ceiling. They don't beat good teams. I saw Cincinnati go to Tennessee and win, beat Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I've seen the ceiling with Cincinnati. And so contextually, I'm like, they're going to be fine. They've got to get it right. Second half against Dallas, the team that won last night, I was like they got it right. And then they went out this weekend and you watch. Watched them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But they're hard to stop. So you can go from out of it to into it. Now, also, they made a playoff run. Green Bay, in crisis, big spots last two years, has not been a good football team. By the way, Jaguars, they beat the Chargers. We don't know anything about them in crisis. I'd also say 49ers are teetering, right?
Starting point is 00:21:09 The Rams next, no Trent Williams. That's going to be a problem for them big time. Okay. This is my second favorite roster in the league. Yeah, they're good. But, um... Okay. And with Traylant and...
Starting point is 00:21:18 And Garoppolo. They've had two, three, and outs. We need to start talking about Shanahan as a great, like, first quarter coach, right? They come out of the gate strong and they, for some reason, second half, whether it's the Bears game, this past week against Denver, like Colin. Well, there are limitations at quarterback. I like Garoppel. There are limitations to him. Him or Kyle Shanahan.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Shanahan's fine. Okay. 49ers fans are have some consternation right now about Kyle Shanahan. people you know I find that the Niners are the most interesting team in the league I'm not saying best they're the most interesting okay there's a lot of teams in this league I mean New England's just not interesting Seattle's not that interesting Carolina is not that interesting I don't talk back chargers are interesting right now no well if they lose one more game they're not interesting um but it's like with San Francisco I find it so funny that with great quarterbacks in this league, Burrough, Stafford, and Brady, we understood that not practicing and playing affected their early playing.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Garoppolo, who's not nearly in that class, as I contextualized yesterday, Garoppolo didn't even get a playbook and didn't even take snaps early in the season because Trey Lance got all of them. And you think going to Denver first game altitude, that pass rush, he's going to be great. Of course, contextualize that. this stuff. Garapolo's not an excuse maker. He's a guy's guy. He came out after the game and he said,
Starting point is 00:22:46 I haven't had a lot of snaps here. It's really, really rough. Nobody thinks he's Burrow. Nobody thinks he's Brady Stafford. But we understood it with them because they've been so great. They're more talented than Garapolo.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So it may take Garoplo a week or two longer because he's not quite as gifted. But look at the roster, look at the coach, Look at the stats, two, three, and outs all year. Yeah. This is a real football team. Packers, I have 11, 12 with the Jags.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Were the Jets, by the way? I don't go past 25. I have limitations. 25. And they'll beat the Steelers out right this week. So you think the Bengals and the Niners are a tad high? I would have the Jags and the Packers in there, and I would have the Bengals and Niners out. So the Packers have one second half touchdown.
Starting point is 00:23:36 You're good with that. I'm not good with that, but buying their schedule. I think they're going to be six and one here in a couple weeks. Well, I'm not based on. I'm basing it off today. Okay. That Packers have not looked great. Right now today, San Francisco plays Green Bay. San Francisco is so much deeper.
Starting point is 00:23:52 How's this? If you could buy stock in the 49ers for the full season today or the Packers today. 49ers, easily. By the way, if the Bengals played the Packers, Mixon, Burrough, Chase, Higgins, if the Bengals played the Packers today, Neutralfield, who wins? Historically not a good matchup for Ler. floor. It's just not been a good match. Show me his wins against good teams. I got wins by Zach Taylor against good teams.
Starting point is 00:24:16 No, that's fair. Head to head. So if you think the, do I think the Jags would beat the Bengals or Niners? No. Do I think the Packers would? No. Packers basically have 12 good plays to start on script. Then Aaron doesn't trust anybody. By the way, I saw the Niners in Garoppolo play the Packers. It was called Lambo in the playoffs. They couldn't move the ball. In the second half, once they were off script. This is impenetrable. This shield. The herd hierarchy, my new favorite segment. It's not like I don't think about this.
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Starting point is 00:28:11 It's a final tune-up. We're going to FS2 at 1030 right now. So it's against Saudi Arabia. Our guys, final tune-up. Pour the World Cup and guitar. I'll mess around. Got to tighten things up. Big game.
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Starting point is 00:28:39 Turn on the news. This is the herd-like news. All right, we touched on this earlier, Colin. Dak Prescott confirmed he had the stitches removed from his surgically repaired thumb before the Cowboys game against Giants. He was actually throwing during warm-ups last night. He said he's not ruling out the possibility of returning against the commanders and that Sharman soft defense.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I personally do not think this is a good idea. Colin, should Dak Prescott give it a go against Washington at home this week? No. No, I think this is the classic Teddy Bridgewater Cooper Rush. Backups winning. Not a great team. It's a must win for Washington. By the way, I like Ron Rivera. Defensive coach has never sensed the urgency of quarterback. Finally comes in late on Carson Wentz. There's way too much talent in this Washington offense to look like that. You're not getting rid of Wents in one year, are you? They're always like, what, 20 maybe quarterbacks in the league that are starters and the other guys just play musical chairs going around other teams.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Carson Wentz is not working, but Washington's offensive line gave up nine sacks to the Eagles. Now you got Micah Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence. These guys are, I think they lead the league in sacks, the Cowboys. I think they have their way with Washington. You could win with defensive Cooper Rush. Why four stack back out there quickly? It just doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. Next up, Colin.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Ah, Bill's offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey, had that meltdown in the booth. Huge talking point. We talked about it yesterday on the show. He did not hide his anger after the loss of the dolphins, said he hopes to learn from the moment and move forward. It was a playoff atmosphere. A lot of credit to the Miami Dolphins. And obviously, we weren't on the winning end of it,
Starting point is 00:30:20 so it's frustrating and, you know, reacted that way. And obviously, that's something that I'm definitely going to learn from. And, you know, I don't ever want to take the passion out of the game. We're all in this on this to win football games for, obviously, for the bills, for our fans. And we're going to give them everything we got. But it's something I'm going to learn from and make sure, you know, it's a correct move forward. Listen, a lot of people were freaking out. I think they liked it, right? People enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:30:53 people in the media were like, whoa, and my thing is media, when you put these cameras and microphones in those coaching spaces. By the way, you see the other guys not going crazy because they've all done it before. Look at the guy with the headset, the bald guy. He just looks over at him like, dude, are you okay? We lost football games before. Like, settled down. But this is not baseball where you got another three-game series coming up. This is why America loves football. The games matter. Every stinking one of them. matter. Bills play at Baltimore this week. They're going to
Starting point is 00:31:27 watch Buffalo play. I think they could be down as many as six starters. Well, I don't like that. Yeah, we've got to see what's up with the practice reports and the injuries. But by the way, John Harbaugh, underdog at home, that's a rarity. I'll have some information on that later in the week. All right, Colin,
Starting point is 00:31:43 final story. Zion Williamson. You know, you joked earlier about how everybody's skinny now coming off the offseason in the NBA. Look at Zion. Looking so thin there. Team. Played really well last year. He pushed the Phoenix Suns. So he's recovered from the broken foot, missed the entire season, got his contract, all smiles.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Zion talked about how good it feels to be back. My focus over the summer was to just get back to playing, playing in shape, playing conditioning, and just honing my craft as usual. I feel like I'm in my best right now. I feel like I'm moving faster, jumping higher. I just, I feel great. That's a long time without playing the game. But my excitement level is through the roof.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I'm just ready to get back on the court. Dude, look at those arms. It looks like he's chiseled out of granite. He's so cut up. I need that workout, Redmond. They have a good culture going right now. They have an interesting team. It's not a great NBA city, but I think they,
Starting point is 00:32:47 I think they're in a good space. Yeah. Now, you just mentioned every NFL game matters. NBA has 82 games. It's probably too many. That being said, Zion's probably one of the 10 guys when he's coming here to Staples. You're probably trying to get a seat front row for that one. That's a good show that he puts on.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah, no, I mean, it's scarcity is absolutely college and pro football's biggest advantage. There's just not many games, so you have to go watch. But I will say that the NBA has always been a good story league. Oh, yeah. We talk about the stories more than we watch the games. The numbers show that around America. Yeah. And Zion's a good story.
Starting point is 00:33:23 He's fun, captivating. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd line. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hard Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:34:54 Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrate. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
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Starting point is 00:36:37 I'm Sam Jek. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about cracking the A&E, To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We all have different ideas about success, achieve it at different times, 130 years Midwest-based, Steefel Financial Advisors, check them out, STI-FEL. So, you know, pro athletes say they don't hear, but they hear. Their agents hear stuff, their support group here stuff, their friends hear stuff, and they send it to them. And I think when you're an athlete, maybe in a lot of positions, you don't like criticism,
Starting point is 00:37:48 but it does spurn you on. It's jet fuel for the willful and ambitious. And Pete Carroll's driven and Russell Wilson's driven. So after that opening game, Denver at Seattle, the homecoming for Russell Wilson, that was really big for Russ. That was really big for Pete Carroll. And after they beat him, remember the Denver offense couldn't move,
Starting point is 00:38:10 get into the end zone, Pete Carroll talking about facing Russell Wilson. He had this comment. Listen carefully. We really were. focused in on Russ's play with our pass rush and that's really the way to play him. You can move him and you can make him go.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I think he moved 10 times and he completed two passes on the times we moved him out of the pocket and moved him around like we were trying to. He moves to his left. It's hard for him, you know, in numbers wise. When he moved to his left, it is hard for him. Okay. So
Starting point is 00:38:43 Russell Wilson heard that. And then Russell this week moved to his left and was pretty accurate on that final drive against the Niners. And Russell Wilson just had to slip this in. Really in the fourth court, I had to kind of use my legs and kind of take over and just try to move around and find some first downs. And then, you know, Kendall hitting, you know, making that big play. I went left.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I guess I can still go left. But I went left and, you know, hit Kendall on that. That was a big play by him. So petty. First of all, most right-handed quarterbacks who move left, or to a moving right? Like, you're not as effective. But what comes from that is something we all like.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Gossip and rumors confirmed. When Peyton left the Colts, you didn't get the chippiness. Actually, Brady and Belichick. Matt Ryan and Atlanta. There were no chippiness because there were no rumors. Belichick was telling everybody, Brady's really overrated. And there was no rumors that Tom Brady thought Belichick got way too much of the credit.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Brady just wanted more good weapons in a weapons pivoting league. But we heard four, two years, actually three, that Pete thought Russell Wilson was running out of design plays and was a tad overrated. And Russell Wilson felt for two or three years that Pete was outdated and couldn't figure out the offense and the concepts were to 1970, 84. football. The Seahawk fans didn't want to hear it. You media guys making stuff up. It's just gossip. Now, there's a difference between gossip and rumors and sourcing. And my sourcing was for multiple years and everybody else's sources, who I respect that cover the league, were that Russell felt Pete was a defensive coach getting up there and run first down, run second down. Hey, Russ, go save us. and Pete felt like, you know, Russell's a little small,
Starting point is 00:40:50 starting to feel like, you know, he's the guy, and I think we can upgrade here. By the way, they tried to upgrade to Josh Allen, went to his pro day. They also had a move ready to make that Cleveland wouldn't move on, which is we'll give you Russ for the number one pick 2018. So all this stuff, all the little barbs are confirming not just my sources, but they're confirming the rumors and the gossip. And that doesn't make it always right.
Starting point is 00:41:20 But in most instances, if multiple respected reporters all over the league, you're telling you, yeah, this thing ain't pretty. It's not pretty. So speaking of something that won't be pretty, the Lakers had Media Day yesterday. And I thought it was kind of funny. So I talked about this last week,
Starting point is 00:41:42 whether it's the NFL or NBA, when you have a star, Steph Curry, Tim Duncan in his prime, Tom Brady, when you have a star in a locker room, it creates clarity.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Hey, Steph Curry works harder than everybody. Duncan's working harder. Brady's working harder. All the good players know their place in the pecking order. But when you don't have a star among a group, Westbrook is out of his prime.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Patrick Beverly, out of his prime. Dennis Schrooter, not sure he had a prime, but he's not a star. So right now, they're well compensated, but Patrick Beverly's not a star. Westbrook's not a star anymore. He's not. I'm sorry. It's more named than, you know, viable production. And you have three guys, none of star.
Starting point is 00:42:37 So that means no clarity. They all think they're the guy privately. Westbrook still looks at Patrick Beverly and says, you know, as he once said, he fools everybody. He talks a lot and moves a lot. He doesn't do anything. And Schrooter can't stay anywhere because he's not productive enough and he's reportedly difficult. So the Lakers are going to have, it's not going to work. Here's my prediction.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Beverly, Schrooter, and Westbrook, because there's no real star here. If you put Steph Curry, if you added a fourth guard and it was Steph Curry, it would be fine. Because Steph be like, fellas, shh. my team. That's what Brady could always say. That's why you could bring in a Randy Moss and it would work is Tom's team. Randy's great. It's Tom's team. So when you don't have a star and all the personalities, Westbrook can be rigid. Beverly can be stubborn. Shruder can be rigid. And they all have a strong point of view. And they all think right now they're better than they probably are. I mean, I like Patrick Beverly as a three and D guy. Shrewder, I think, is talented. Westbrook can be very, very
Starting point is 00:43:40 productive. They all have assets, but they're all kind of either never had a prime, out of their prime, think they're greater than they are. It's going to be a toxic mess eventually. But Beverly is saying what you would want to say right now. I've been here, I don't know, three weeks, three weeks and a half, maybe four, and I'm just guessing. I don't know if I had to pick a best friend, best friend out of a team, you know, you usually have, though, that it'd be him. And obviously, I'm not saying it because you guys are right here. It's been the truth. He's, you know, he was at my press conference. You know, we, we, we, we, we, We hit the waist together. And I mean, not like team weight stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Like, you know, we're in the lab 6.30 in the morning together. You know, and this was this was a month ago. I don't doubt any of that. Westbrook gets along with everybody until they play together. You know, he and Hardin were best friends, great buddies. He and Katie got along. And then they started not getting along. And last year, LeBron liked him.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So I'm not blaming this all on Westbrook. But it's interesting. Westbrook, Beverly, and Shurray. intruder all have something in common. Strong sense of self can be kind of rigid in the way they play. All can be outspoken, at least privately. Westbrook and Patrick Beverly, privately maybe, and publicly, it's not going to work. Because when you don't have an elite star and they all kind of think they're it and they all think they're a tad better than they currently are, Westbrook's got talent, but he just does not play well with others.
Starting point is 00:45:12 He can't play off the ball. Schrooter can but doesn't want to. Beverly does accepts it. I mean, of all three of them, Beverly, to me, is really the most, at this point, the most useful. He can defend the wing and he can hit a three. I'm good with that. I'm not playing Patrick Beverly 39 minutes, but I'm good with that.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But it is such an obviously combustible situation. And there are, listen, Jay Mack, we've all had friends like this. There are people that are a good hang until you have to hang out with them a lot. We've all got the Vegas buddy. He's good for two days and a night. A couple of golf, you go out gambling, you party, you drink, dinner. You wake up the next day you golf. And by the second night, you're like over him.
Starting point is 00:46:01 He talks too much. He's obnoxious. He drinks too much. We've all got those friends. They're just short stint friends. Yeah. That's Westbrook. People love working out with him.
Starting point is 00:46:13 People like him. He's a good. But you go on a six-day road trip and like he doesn't pass you the ball and his usage rate is like double what it should be. He wears you out. And Patrick Beverly, by the way. In short stints, Beverly can be great. But he wears you out over time. Seven game road trip, you are so over Patrick Beverly.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Hasn't Russell Westbrook been on? on like four different teams in the last five years. Some insane number like they just bounced around because he's a tough fit. Some people like Steph Curry wears well, right? Steph Curry and the Warriors, Clay Thompson's another guy. Clay doesn't talk a lot. He's like, there for you. Clay Thompson wears well.
Starting point is 00:46:54 He'll play for the Warriors and then close shop and nobody ever got tired of him. You always wanted more Clay than was available Clay. Like he's that kind of personality. And people forget this. In the NBA, it's not like baseball. A third of the team is in the bullpen, and they're really like disassociated from the team. Yeah. In football, offense goes left, defense goes right.
Starting point is 00:47:16 In the NBA, you're all together all the time on that bench, sitting there, same discussions, same huddle. So like one guy that's needy or high maintenance blows it up. Does it feel like the system in Golden State is perfect? It's more about the system, working in space, creating space. Well, Steph makes it all work because he's not high maintenance. You could put seven, eight stars in that thing, and they would blow it up. But you can't put Russ in a system because he wants to be the system. Mr. Triple Double.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I'm going to rebound. I'm going to pass. I'm going to score. I don't want to set screens. I can't shoot from the corners. I just want to do this, that, and the other. But that doesn't really work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I still don't know why LeBron recruited him to L.A. That's really a great puzzle. Well, again, people get fooled. I mean, you hang out with a guy in short stints. Like LeBron practices at UCLA with Westbrook for years. He sees him. on a roadie. He sees him in a fashion show.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He sees him. He works out with him. So LeBron, in short stints with Westbrook is like, this guy's great. And Westbrook is great. I've talked to players around the league. Then you travel with him. Then you play with him. And then you have, there are certain personalities that they don't wear well.
Starting point is 00:48:27 We all have these. They don't wear well over time. And I think that's why everybody falls in love with Westbrook. He's a good hang. He's a good guy. He's a Hall of Famer. Let's be clear. No doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:48:38 People like him. He's like a good dad, a good husband, a good friend, a good. But he'll wear you out. His style, very ball-centric, no defense, right? It wears good teammates out. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
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Starting point is 00:49:53 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that. excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get
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