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Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb, in for Colin Cowherd.
And on the first day of the NCAA tournament, I want to talk sports with you.
From Poway to Escondido, from Tijuana to Sherman Oaks for the next couple of hours.
If you know, you know.
By the way, the Blue Jays are putting on the Cardinals as Creighton is up 4727 with a minute 48 to go.
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We got a lot to get to this hour.
We'll keep you update on all the scores.
Purdue and High Point
They're in a tight one as Purdue
was up 18 to 14
11 minutes to go in the first half
Anyway, we'll keep updated on scores
You'll look at your brackets
If you pricked Louisville
You're probably in not in great shape
So
That tournament is going on
You know
There are certain things where once you get to
I think once you get to 40
you are who you are
right now i there are a lot of people in my life are like man you're different now than you were
a year ago before you got this college head coaching job um yeah maybe i'm definitely busier uh my life
in green bay is way easier you know it was two hours to get here uh 22 to the 405 today
it's four minutes to work in green bay so uh i got more time to be
more productive.
But I just kind of think like, okay, so who am I?
I'm not great with time.
I think everybody knows that.
Okay.
I am a really good communicator, probably over-communicated, especially via text.
All right?
I generally am a pretty thoughtful person.
It doesn't take extra things to do the extra things.
You know, I'm, I would, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
completely disagree and always have with Colin.
I wear my hat backwards, always have,
probably always will.
That's who I am.
Right.
Well, I like comfortable sweats, comfortable t-shirts.
I don't over-dress.
I don't underdress.
I just dress.
I know what I like to eat.
I mean, really, I like to eat just about anything.
I don't eat pasta because I stay,
for the most part, because I stay away from the carbs.
And I don't eat Indian food because I just don't like it.
Right?
Stop trying to convince me that, no, no, no, no.
This chutney is, I don't like Curry.
That's just Steph Curry, like.
Seth Curry, impressed by, but like no one has a Seth Curry fan.
Actual curry, no, not so much.
Once you're 40, like, you kind of are who you are.
And you surround yourself with people who, they don't have to like every part about you,
but they accept you for who you are.
Aaron Rogers is 40, is he not?
Okay, so he still has not decided or,
publicly announced if he's playing next year.
And with that,
now has he not decided or announced if he's playing next year,
but the thought is that the one team,
he can still go, start,
and it's a playoff caliber team
that just added an absolute stud at wide receiver
is the Pittsburgh Steelers.
There's an expression that I think most of us know
and we use and it probably gets overused,
which is that tracks.
that tracks.
And that tracks generally means like, yeah, I got it.
That's kind of par for the course, right?
That's going to happen.
I get it.
Yep, that's him.
That's who he is.
He's 40.
We got it.
Right?
Can we all come to the conclusion that Aaron Rogers is going to make a decision
about playing football next year?
over this weekend.
Again, I don't think it will hijack the NCAA tournament
and I don't necessarily think he's going to do it
because it hijacks the NCAA tournament.
I just think he's going to do it
and it will partially hijack the NCAA tournament
because that tracks.
Am I making sense?
A surprise to absolutely positively no one.
Cam Hayward is kind of the spokesperson
person for the the the current
Steelers right he actually
has his own podcast
I thought he put it best when he
said this the other day
I ain't doing that darkness
darkness treat retreat I don't mean
any of that crap like
either you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't
that's simple that's the pitch
if you want me to recruit that's the recruiting pitch
you know Pittsburgh Steelers
if you want to be part of it
so be if you don't
no no scare on my back
that's perfect right
is there is it that much
it's not like
do you know the culture of Pittsburgh
no
okay
you don't
but Aaron Rogers has been
a professional football player
for almost as much time
as he has not been a professional football player
I'm making sense
right like he came out of Cal
so he was what 21 22 years old
right so it's about even basically his entire adult life this is what he's done so it's not
really there's not really a lot of suspense is there a newness to playing for a new organization sure
do i do i i i think i don't know and mike tomlin hasn't said but my guess is hey dude
if you're going to come play for us you're not going to do mackafee's pot we know mackafee is a
pittsburgh guy okay you can appear on it but you're not doing the weekly thing like
We want to win football games, and the rest will take care of itself.
And look, there's a good part of me that feels empathetic towards Aaron Rogers and the report that came out yesterday,
which is that apparently TV isn't interested in him.
TV is an issue.
And I think they're not interested in him for reasons that I understand completely.
Like when I call basketball games, I know it's about the basketball game.
It's not a radio show.
I've obviously had to learn the cadence and not to over talk and that takes time and that the pace of things and getting in and getting out.
And look, there's occasionally, like we'll have, we had fun moments when I would do games.
But the issue that corporate America has is they want safe.
they want safe
when I was at CBS
the now president of CBS
Dave Berson
who's a friend and I think
I was a good leader
was there and he said
hey our
our only issue with you is we don't know
what you're going to say next
and I said Dave isn't that like
a good thing like
like you want to know like what is he going to say next
he's like yeah
it's like at the profile
of games
studio stuff you're going to be calling
like Barclay
can get away with that.
You can't.
You can't.
And again, you look
and
Matt Ryan
is in studio for CBS.
Right? And I think Matt Ryan's really good.
J.J. Watt is in studio for
CBS. Tom Brady is calling
game for Fox. Like Tom Brady
he hasn't figured it out
yet. He will.
At some point he'll be the real Tom
Brady on air because I'm sure the real Tom Brady he wouldn't have that many friends and I mean
Edelman is an awesome dude right once he gets away from being corporate Tom Brady like he'll be
really really good but the point is that the reason they like Tom Brady is not just all of the rings
it's that Tom Brady's safe and I'm empathetic towards Aaron Rogers because he has all these different
thoughts he wonders about things and he's been open about it and there's been a
a docu series about him, right, and a book written about it.
And he's on McAfee and he expounds on it.
My guess is if he's going to call a game, he'd actually just call a game.
But TV, like, man, I don't want to take that risk.
So I'm empathetic towards, here's a super bright guy, a multi-time MVP, a first ballot
Hall of Famer, a guy who checks, has checked every box.
There's not a box that Aaron Rogers doesn't check as a player.
Intelligence, athleticism, accuracy, arm strength.
like a clutch in key moments, toughness, all of those things.
He checks.
And yet there's like one good team in the NFL that wants him and TV doesn't want him.
So I'm empathetic towards it.
But dude, pooper get off the pot, right?
Right.
I mean, you got Cam Hayward sitting there going, like if the Pittsburgh Steelers just had a quarterback,
they haven't had a quarterback since Ben Rothensbergers before his last two years.
Right.
Remember when Antonio Brown
you know, like no showed at practice, right?
That was the last time that Ben Rothsburger
was a relatively decent quarterback.
After that, it was like,
they haven't had an elite level quarterback.
If you just put an elite,
a high-quality quarterback on the team last year,
they might go to the Super Bowl.
And K. Maybridge's like,
hey, dude, I'm not doing any of that stuff.
Do you want to play for us or not?
So the idea that Aaron Rogers
will hijack the,
will hijack the NCAA tournament is if I had to give a percentage, 95%, right?
There's like a 95% likelihood that Aaron Rogers will make some sort of tweet or announcement
or Schefter will put it out there or Glazer will put it out there.
Probably in the next two days, it feels like 95% possibility.
because that's who he is.
And once you're 40 years old, like, it's kind of who you are.
Lean into who you are, hire people or be around people who can either fill those voids
or accept what you don't do.
Because this whole idea of, I'm going to remake myself.
Come on, man.
All those guys remake themselves, go to Turkey, get a hair transplant, buy a Porsche, change jobs,
They're still the same guy at their core.
All right, coming up next in the herd.
I'm Doug Gottlieb, in for Colin Cowherd.
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NCAA tournament taking place. Purdue leading
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and the Dodgers go and play the Cubs in Japan.
And J.P., I obviously have five Japanese players.
It's a celebration of the sport.
How much different is it this year because they're real games being played in Japan?
Well, Doug, good afternoon.
Good morning out in California.
It really does add a boost in energy, in relevance.
for the sport around the world.
And I think the television ratings, the attendance in Japan, I think speaks for itself.
But I think just look at social media even here in North America the last several days
and certainly plenty of talk about college hoops as we should.
But Otani homering in Japan seemed to really break through and get a ton of attention
and the debut of Sasaki yesterday in the first game matchup between Yamamoto and Imanaga.
it's a showcase of Japanese talent.
And not just Japanese talent,
but the way the game is received there.
And there's something invigorating, I think, Doug,
that when you see something that you have loved for a long time
as the American public has with baseball,
but maybe at different points,
football is passed by perhaps in the relevance of national conversation.
I think we could say.
But maybe it allows the American people,
public to appreciate our national pastime in a different dimension when you see just how much
it matters around the world. And I do believe that there might be this renewed sense of appreciation
of what we've got, that all it took was a couple baseball teams and certainly a couple
high-profile teams to fly over the Pacific and then be greeted as heroes in Japan. And by the
way, not just Otani, but indeed everybody was regarded that way, it seems, to varying degrees.
obviously there's only one Otani, but all the players in the Dodgers and Cubs,
like you're hearing their comments about just what the experience was like and what it meant to them.
It just gives the sport a real boost as the new season begins.
Okay, with that said, I mean, Dodgers went out, spent a bunch of money,
and added to what was already a World Series champion.
How'd the look?
Pretty good, Doug.
They've got a pretty talented team.
When you think about it, they didn't even have to have Blake Snell pitch, and he was their
highest profile in terms of dollars pitching acquisition over the offseason, of course,
Sasaki in terms of name value, but that was a relatively inexpensive investment of money
to get Sassaki.
But you sign Blake Snell, you're a year removed from extending glass now, and Otani and Kershah
aren't even ready to pitch yet, and you still go out there and win two games and fairly
decisive fashion. They just have so much talent, Doug, and certainly it's possible that they will
have injuries, and there's a reason why that we have not seen a team repeat as the World Series
champion in a quarter century since the Yankees back in 2000. So what they're trying to do is
not been done in a very, very long time, but it's hard to imagine a more impressive team
as a season begins in a team that deserves to be regarded as a more prohibited
favorite than what we're seeing right now from the Los Angeles Dodgers.
And in some ways, Doug, they're only going to get better once Otani can pitch,
and once Kershaw comes back, and once Freddie Freeman comes back from this intercostal issue,
once Mookie Betts is healthy, he missed those two games due to illness.
So of the big three, if you will, offensively, two were out, and they still look
great.
Edmund stepped up, and Conforto got some starts.
The depth of this team is unlike any that I have ever seen in my years covering the sport.
That said, there's obviously a tremendous amount of pressure,
but, you know, Dave Roberts got a new big contract.
They finally did win one.
Does it – and again, you can't know or get a read.
Does it feel different, though, around the Dodgers in regards to the pressure to win one?
Hmm. That's a really good question because I think in some ways there was more pressure on them perhaps last year.
That's what I mean. I mean in terms of the relief of pressure, right?
Like they had won a World Series, but it was during COVID, right?
So they had, and they had been to the playoffs so often, and the Padres felt like they were coming on strong, right?
Right. You're like, all right. I just wonder if there's a different kind of confidence to their gate in that, all right,
now we banked a World Series, and truthfully, we have two in the last five years.
You know, we're not, Dave Roberts' jobs on the line.
Is there any difference in that sense?
I think there is, and there is, I would say, by any reasonable thought on kind of this,
just the circumstances here, there is less pressure on them now than there was a year ago.
And I got the sense just in seeing the images and the smiles on this team as they were going to experience in Tokyo.
It seems to me that, for lack of a better description, they're just enjoying being the sports world's version of the Beatles right now.
They're having fun with this.
And baseball becomes a much easier game to play when there is a context of fun.
This is a stressful game.
There's a lot of failure in it.
And when you are failing a lot and even you think about the Yankees
and the way they struggled in the World Series last year when you're supposed to win,
this sport can really snowball on you in a difficult way
because of how much failure is baked into it when you're putting pressure on yourself.
And to that extent, yeah, they've added talent,
which maybe on some level ups the expectations.
but it can't be any higher than it was last year when the expectation was championship or failure.
And so they're used to that.
I think it's, I'll be curious to see as the year goes along,
we have not seen baseball teams feel inevitable, right?
And whether it's the modern chiefs in the NFL or the warriors during their dynasty runs,
there's it's rare in an American sports that making the playoffs, at least in this one, is a given, is an absolute given when the season begins.
It's just a question of how you get there and who the different heroes are.
People want to play for this team because they want to be part of what is one of the great shows in American sports, really global sports, as we just saw this week.
So this is the fun part for them.
And I also like, by the way, Doug, that they've brought in some players that haven't won at all yet.
In the case of Blake Snell, for example, you sign him, and, you know, he's from the West Coast originally.
He was a Padre. He was a giant.
And now he comes in, and there's a little extra motivation for him.
There's motivation for Michael Conforto.
You bring in Sasaki, and he's got something to prove in his first year.
So there's something for a lot of, at least a number of the players to prove.
Tanner Scott comes to mind.
He hasn't won a World Series yet.
And I think that when you have success, it's important to change out a few players to avoid the complacency.
And I think that they have really helped combat the complacency.
Doug, just how much fun they're having.
This is a fun product to watch.
And they're certainly the kind of team where if you're a baseball fan in St. Louis and in Washington, D.C.,
and Milwaukee and Houston, you want to buy a ticket to watch this team play because in a way that
Very few baseball teams are.
They are a spectacle unto themselves when they come to your town.
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Been told Red Sox incredible farm system, right?
They try to build it ground up.
What about the product on the field this year in Boston?
The Boston Red Sox have a reasonable expectation of winning this division this season.
Now, there are still some complexities.
How things play out with Devers now being more of a full-time D.H.
As they're working Breggman in the Atlanta.
Breggman, by the way, has had a phenomenal spring.
Devers was late to debut, and it's really not himself yet.
Trevor Storia has had a really good spring.
Kossis looks like what he can do for you at first base.
So they have, in my opinion, you're right, one of the very best farm systems in the game.
Marcel O'Meyer is coming at a really good spring training.
We've seen, I think, different flashes from Christian Campbell over at second base,
Roman Anthony in the outfield.
Not all of them will be on the opening day roster,
but they all can make an impact in the major leagues this season,
or at the very least, as we saw with the moves they made with Chicago White Sox
and Aquatic Crochet, they have the assets to get out,
you know, bring in whatever pitcher they want at the deadline
from the standpoint of just how talented their system is.
So the Red Sox have, I think, a lot of resources right now at a time where the Yankees,
with all the injuries they're dealing with, look pretty vulnerable.
And out west of the American League, the Rangers, who were the defending World Series champions at this time last year,
they've got some injuries.
So the American League is more winnable right now than the National League.
The National League is the Dodgers.
It's their sport, their game, their league, until someone proves otherwise.
But in the American League, there is a bid to the World Series.
unless they've changed the rules, it's one national league team, one American league team.
So you get a chance if you're in the American League to get your way through
without having to beat the Dodgers until the final step.
And I think that should create a lot of aggressive plays on the trade market.
The Red Sox have the wherewithal to do that.
In addition to now having a healthy Trevor story,
they just signed Breggman.
That's one of the better and more athletic left side of the infield that you're going to see in baseball.
So I like the Red Sox right now.
their chances to win the American League East in 2025.
Okay, again, I don't forgive me because I don't know how many people truly care,
and I haven't kept up with it.
Okay, the A's are in Sacramento, right?
Like, are they going to build the stadium in Vegas?
Yes, they're in Sacramento.
I can confirm that.
But are they actually going to build the stadium at the Tropicana site?
Like, is that actually still going to happen?
That is, so that is what has been said,
that are there shovels in the ground right now?
Not to my knowledge, but every time the commissioner has been asked,
he has said they are going to move to Las Vegas.
So that is, and now, by the way, the Sacramento plan is not just for one year.
It's for several years while they're building the stadium in Las Vegas.
So it's going to take some time.
They can settle in here for a little while.
And just given the relatively transient nature of baseball
and how rare it is that any one player stays with any one.
team for more than three or four years in a row.
A lot of the players that are on the A's roster now are going to be in Sacramento for a substantial
portion of their time with the club.
And I think that's how they're looking at it.
But eventually the idea is they're going to go to Las Vegas.
Now, the other thing is you've got the Rays are playing at Steinbrenner Field, which is the spring
home of the New York Yankees.
And their situation in Tampa Bay is certainly more tenuous than what the A's have as they're looking
ahead to Las Vegas because
no one really knows where the race
they're going to play in a few years. Will it be
in Tampa? Will they have to be
sold and relocated? Will Stu Sternberg
try to relocate them? But all
these questions, the shovel in the ground,
the ballpark in Las Vegas, the future
home of the Tampa Bay Rays, all
those things have to be resolved
or at least on their way to being
finally resolved by the time
baseball talks about expansion.
And baseball's wanted to do this for a while.
The pandemic was a bit of an issue with
respect to that. And now the stadium situations for the A's and to a greater extent the
raise are hampering those efforts. Until that thing gets resolved, they can't go to 32 teams
because you can't start awarding, awarding expansion franchises to cities if you need to keep
them and play as possible relocation sites. So it's a, and meanwhile, of course, we've got two
years left on the CBA before. This one expires after 26. So a lot of business of baseball,
important conversations are happening right now, Doug.
JP, great stuff as always.
Love your energy and enthusiasm.
Listen, I'm interested.
I've watched UC San Diego.
They're really good, really good.
In layup lines, you'd be like, no way.
No way.
They're one of the worst teams looking in layup lines ever, but they can really play.
I do think Michigan's going to win, but it is a pick that everybody seems to have.
Everybody seems to have.
So I wish I could tell you better things than that, but that's whatever.
Enjoy the day. Thanks so much for joining us, and we'll catch up with you soon.
Sounds great, Doug. Looking forward to it. Enjoy the tournament, my friend. All best.
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All right, Doug. Of course, we have the opening of March Madness today, so let's take you around where we're currently at. Halftime, Four-seated Purdue.
against 13th seed high point, up by 10, 3727.
We have early in the second half.
Ninth seed Creighton, taken on eighth seed Louisville.
Creighton is up currently, 58 to 44.
And very early, just tipped off not too long ago.
Wisconsin, with an early lead, third-seeded badgers,
taken on 14th seed Montana.
So that's currently where we stand in the three games.
Yeah, Louisville started to be competitive here in the second half.
They've cranked up some of the pressure.
But I think Stephen Ashworth, who honestly is like, he's like a friend.
I've covered him when he was at Utah State for a couple years.
This is his second year at, oh, he just hit a deep three.
He's 25 married with a kid.
And, you know, he went on his LDS mission, obviously.
And they just, they look like the more experienced team than Louisville does in this tournament.
Louisville kind of settling for bad shots.
Sure.
All right.
So that's where we stand with the tournament.
We will keep you updated all throughout the morning here or afternoon if you're on the East Coast.
But let's turn our attention back to professional basketball here.
Trouble for an NBA title contender.
Yeah, Milwaukee Bucks sliding, losing five of their last seven, including a loss to the Warriors who were without Steph Curry.
NBA insider Chris Haynes is reporting after that loss to Golden State, head coach Doc Rivers,
Janice Antedocumpo and Damian Lillard
held the meeting to air the grievances and concerns
about the current state of the team.
It was described as mostly positive
for everyone to get on the same page,
but as you and I would say,
correct.
Yes, that is exactly where I was headed is.
Good teams don't have players only or don't have team meetings.
Not only do you not have those meetings,
but you certainly don't have those meetings
after you've lost five of seven
and had an incredibly disappointing loss
to a Golden State Warriors team who were without Steph Curry.
and try and spin that as all good here.
We're good.
We're good.
Hey, man.
We're good.
Yeah, I don't buy that either.
Yeah, so things, not looking good for Milwaukee.
Milwaukee.
Now, they play the Lakers tonight, do they know?
That is correct.
The Lakers, though.
You know, it was interesting with Colin yesterday, I believe, after that loss.
You know, sort of looked at Janus, and, you know, he went from such an unknown to exploding onto the scene.
as a two-time MVP had that great run to win a title,
but mostly questioning that, you know,
he still isn't a great shooter.
And at what point, now that he's 30,
do we start to wonder how much longer
will that window of dominance last in a league today
that's all about sort of space and shooting?
It is, but you just had to put shooting around him.
Like, he's so physically dominant that he can get to,
but yeah, no, I mean, it's weird.
Most guys shoot better the longer they're in the league.
and he's worked the opposite way.
Yeah, he is not quite developed that sort of skill
that we thought we could maybe see.
And, you know, obviously now he's gone from being the Greek freak
to now people call Wembe the Alien
and Wembe comes in and has all those skills
plus even taller or longer.
So keeping an eye on Milwaukee,
things not so rosy.
But as you pointed out, they play the Lakers tonight
who are still without LeBron James.
So could end up bouncing back into the wind column.
All right, let's talk some Mnifoy.
football here. Lots of moves
and free agency, including an exodus
of players departing the 49ers
for new teams. Well, their general
manager, John Lynch,
he spoke on that and here's what he had
to say. Bottom line, you're always
looking at years out. We forecast it.
We got some big things coming our way.
And you have to clear the requisite room
to be able to do that. You don't want to
get to a point where you're doing things
where you have to sacrifice things
to keep the roster afloat. You want to have
flexibility.
I believe the insinuation there with big things coming is obviously the large contract that people expect Brock Purdy is in line to receive at some point in the near future.
Yeah, have you seen all the players, all the star players that they've kind of jettisoned?
They've, the trader walked away from?
Yeah, quite a bit.
I just, like, I get it.
He's really good.
But Colin and I, we don't agree on a lot.
But I think all of us agree.
Like, he's good.
But is he $50, $60 million good?
No. No.
Yeah, I think the clearest thing, which Colin has said, is what we know about Brock Purdy is he has been better with the San Francisco 49ers than Jimmy Garoppolo was.
Yeah.
Outside of that, where you want to rank him.
But part of why he's been better, like he's been better.
Yeah.
But he hasn't been like super clutch, and that was the big thing with Jimmy Garoppel was he was hurt and then he kind of butchered away a Super Bowl, right?
For sure.
It's not like Brock Purdy's been great.
in the playoffs.
Right.
You know,
and been surrounded
by better players,
I think,
than even Jimmy Garoppolo was.
Sure.
And the more you pay him,
it doesn't mean that
they're not going to have talent around him.
But they'll be
less talent.
There's just,
no,
something has to give
when you give a guy
that big a contract.
Definitely.
And then we'll wrap up with this.
Also, this time of year,
we get some proposed
rule changes thrown out
from around the league
for the competition committee
to consider.
this time around we will focus in on banning the tush push.
This is being proposed by the Green Bay Packers.
And essentially, the rule change they are trying to suggest is to outlaw this seemingly automatic play that the Philadelphia Eagles have become to be known for.
And what this rule would say is, you cannot line up a teammate directly behind a player who receives the snap and push.
push them from behind to advance them past the line of scrimmage.
So they're not trying to ban the QB sneak by any means.
You just cannot have a teammate directly behind someone who takes the snap
and immediately push them forward once the snap has been received.
I think that's the easiest way to make it an illegal play, right?
Totally.
You can have the tush, you can't have the push.
Oh, okay.
Tush, no push.
That's fine.
We're fine with the tush.
Just not the push.
Yeah.
Now, so you're good with the brotherly, just no shove?
Yes.
Nice.
Okay.
Brotherly, just no shove.
Got it.
Got it.
I like Philly, not that special.
Wow.
And that's right.
I mean, the news.
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You know, there's no real analysis that went with it.
There was just emotion.
And so now the dust is settled.
And look, I'll just tell you quite honestly that,
my analysis.
And again, if we're being honest,
is right in the middle of my season.
So when I saw it,
I called a bunch of my NBA guys like,
okay, how does this make sense?
And most of them said,
well, it doesn't,
but it does from this standpoint.
If Anthony Davis was healthy
and Kyrie Uring was healthy,
that team that went to the NBA finals last year
was better than it was in regards defensively.
than they had been previously.
And one of the reasons they went to the NBA finals
the previous year was, yeah, Luka was amazing,
but the rest of the team was incredible defensively, right?
So I thought that the Mavericks,
they didn't have a point guard.
And I know what you're thinking.
Kyrieu overings a point guard.
No, he's not.
Bringing the ball up from one baseline to the front court
does not a point guard make.
He's a score.
Can he pass?
Yes.
but they didn't have anybody who was a table setter for them.
It was like the one flaw in the makeup of the Mavericks.
Well, Anthony Davis gets hurt and is out, you know, struggling to come back,
and then, of course, Kyrieu tears his ACL,
and we'll never know what that team looked like.
The Lakers, meanwhile, it felt like at the time of that trade,
that they got worse defensively,
but they solidified when Rob Polinka is going to have a job for the next
five years. He's got
Luca. And
they had the next star for whenever
LeBron wants to retire.
And it also feels, does it feel
to anybody else like he's going to
have Bryce on the Lakers in two years
as well? He's going to keep doing this thing.
It does
kind of sort of
feel that way.
And Bryce is not nearly
as far along as Brony was coming
out. But
you know, he's been able to be so
successful statistically and the team is competitive.
And when you have Luca, he doesn't have to do as much.
Most people I know thought he did the Bronny thing and then next year is the kind of grand tour
and bye-bye, I'll ride off into the sunset, you know, do movies and whatever, maybe do some TV.
I don't know.
Not crazy to think that he stays around long as his body is healthy.
You know, he takes his March break as he does every March.
You watched Luca last night.
You look at the success of this team, how talented they are offensively.
And then, again, if you're honest with yourself, the nuggets aren't nearly what they were a
couple years ago.
The Thunder are the favorite, but they haven't done it in the playoffs.
The Mavericks have no shot.
The Warriors, we think they're better than they've been with Jimmy Butler, but are they
actually good?
So do I think they're a favorite?
No.
But when the trade was made, I thought they weren't contenders.
I take that back.
again, and that's under the purest definition of contender, contender.
They're in the discussion of if things go right, that can go really right.
You know, they get the right draw, the right teams.
Again, I don't think, I think Minnesota's right there, you know, although I don't know.
know of Julius Randall is an upgrade.
He's just different than Carl Anthony Towns.
But they've never won anything.
Denver's won it, but not nearly the same.
Oklahoma City has the best team, but they haven't done it.
And the Lakers, they're going to get every call with LeBron and, frankly, with Luca,
and they have an unbelievable offensive team.
So this is not me saying, hey, my bad, Lakers are favorites.
Lakers in five,
but you look at Luca and he's a guy who is able to carry a team last year to the NBA finals.
Not crazy.
Not crazy.
That's not hedging.
That's not, well, you're just, no, no, it's just, it's just honest.
Oklahoma City is the favorite.
You know, Houston hasn't really done it.
Super young.
It feels like Oklahoma City of last year.
and the rest of the league all has, the rest of the conference,
all has like two guys and trying to figure out who else can make plays.
Now, on the same token, I would say that the warriors are also contenders,
but would slot them behind the Lakers.
So contenders is not favorites, but it is also not,
hey man, don't buy green bananas.
because they're going to be out of the playoffs after one series.
Fair?
I just, I think that's what has been lacking in regards to the Lakers and the Mavericks is honest, take a breath.
Let's see what it actually looks like analysis.
Because the emotion of it is like, you traded Luca at 25 because he was out of shape and couldn't stay healthy for Anthony Davis,
who, though in shape now, was out of shape for a good portion.
of his career and shocker got hurt yet again that one seemed weird I will also I'll
also point out that the Celtics were sold today for $6.1.1 billion and again I don't know
I mean what gross spec like look dude you you buy a team for 300 something million
dollars and you can sell for 6.1 billion dollars how quickly can we get that ink to dry
you know like wait wait you want to pay how much six billion yeah we're good
Like, I'm not even sure I would ask for like lifetime season tickets.
Like, no, just listen, you take it.
It's a lot like, I bought a house in Green Bay.
I don't know if I told you, told you guys this.
I bought it with the furniture and with everything else in it.
I was just like, hey, I just wrap it up.
I'll take it as this.
Like, really?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't want to go out and buy a bunch of furniture.
Like, I'm going to buy furniture, but like not right now.
I feel like if you're selling the Celtics for $6.1 billion, you're like, hey, dude, take whatever you want.
Just let's get this thing done.
But the point is,
There has to be at least a portion of it where you own a team, you win two championships,
and you know that you have two, three hundred million dollar contracts in two players.
And you're like, this is probably not great business long term.
I'm going to get out while the getting's good.
And I use that as the jumping off point for it.
Well, that makes a little bit more sense with Dallas.
We're like, look, do we love Luca?
Yeah.
Do we love Luca at $350 million?
and knowing he's still not getting it in shape
and still drink too much in the offseason.
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