The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Jimmy G, MLB, Cardinals

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

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Holden off. I've got to have abs here. Maintain those abs. It's good to have you. Have you ever had abs? No, not really. It's like the Loch Ness Monster. There were rumors, sightings, but nothing came with it.

Yeah, I think the trainers would probably disagree with this statement. This is not a factual statement, but it's just clearly my opinion for our opinion show. I think it's genetic. I played four sports in high school, not one app. Not one app. Well, a lot of things. You know your taste buds are genetic. Like my son eats exactly what I eat.

lives for nuts and bananas and peanut butter and dark chocolate. He's 16 turned 16 yesterday. He loves coffee. Oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Jackson. But he, in the end, because I, and my son, it's embarrassing. Well, not really. I should be proud.

So about like a, you know, one time I said that to him and I said, you eat just like me. He goes, dad, taste buds are genetic. And I'm like, you're 15. How do you know that? I think kids are smarter than us. We are, yeah. They have so much more access to information. And I know mostly how to find what's actual information.

Yeah, I agree. That's what I say when I don't have abs. This is genetic. I got a bad roll of the dice. My excuse my entire life. Okay. So sometimes you've got to be selfish in your career. There are times, I think I'm a team player, but I've been selfish before.

I've set myself up for success. When Robert Sala took the Jets job, I thought it was a bad career move. I would have told him as his agent, don't take this job. You got a rookie quarterback. in a division with three great defensive coaches. You've seen Belichick's historic numbers against rookie quarterbacks, second year quarterbacks, third year quarterbacks, eats them alive. So 0 and 2 every year with New England.

You ain't beaten Belichick with a young quarterback. I don't care who he is. Josh Allen's in the division, Sean McDermott. Not beating them either. I told for four. And at the time, Brian Flores was in the division with a head start on you, I thought his agent did him a disservice. It was a bad career move.

had he waited one year, and by the way, a quarter of the league every year as a new coach. If he just waited one year, stayed with the Niners, Derek Carr and the Raiders, veteran pro bowl level quarterback, Denver's wide open. A lot of good jobs. Next year, I mean, you start hearing rumblings. If Frank Reich doesn't win next year, that Colts job's open. Got to be selfish sometimes. Look at it.

Is it good for my wife, my family, my kids? I thought that was a bad job he took. I said it then. I believe it now. If you're a GM and your owner wants Jimmy Garoppel, be selfish. Because it's been reported now that Jimmy G. who has a history of missing games, 25 and 4 years, is now out for 16 weeks. Surgery on his throwing shoulder.

You can't go get him. Think about how much we love Frank Reich a year ago. Best young coach. Today, his job's on the line. Because he went after Carson Wentz. And Wentz is better than Garapolo. And Wentz hasn't had as many injuries as Garoppolo. But when you combine Garoppolo's history and now this shoulder surgery,

if he gets hurt, you're going to be looked out as a dummy. We love Matt Rule. Two bad jobs in college turned them both around. First year goes there, wins some games with Teddy Bridgewater. he was the next genius, the next McVeigh. He goes and gets Darnold, bad tape, regressed in New York, and how do we look at him now? On the hot seat.

On the hot seat. You have to set yourself up for success sometimes. And I did it earlier this week. I did a really fun segment to me. I love doing this called Herd Stradamus, where I predicted where all these free agent quarterbacks are going to land. And I put him in all different places. Baker in Cleveland, Russell in Seattle, Kenny Pickett's going to get drafted,

Mitch Trubesky with the Colts, you know. Carson Wentz is going to go to Denver because Jim Ursay is furious, even though I wouldn't do that move. If I was the Colts, I'd keep him. Hurt stays, and I add Garoppolo to Tampa. Cross him out. Can't do it. Jason Light can't do it.

And Jason Light's a great GM. Look at that roster. You can't do it. You cannot. I mean, Carson Wentz doesn't have an injury problem right now. He had a bad game against Jacksonville. Frank Reichson. Chris Ballard could be in trouble.

So to me, there are these moments in life where you've got to kind of look at it. And if you bring somebody in, these NFL jobs are gold bars. A lot of times you don't get a second job. I think Todd Bowles is one of the best defensive minds in the NFL. I'm not sure he's ever going to get a head coaching job anymore because the league has gone offense. The league has made such a pivot to offense. Will anybody give Todd Bowles who not only is a defensive coach, but doesn't have a big persona.

He's really quiet. It's very Tony Dungey. Is he going to get a second chance? So, I mean, good God, Belichick had one bad year post-Bradie. All we said was, I don't know. I don't know. Is he that good? I mean, he's smart and everything.

So I'm George Payton, that general manager for Denver. And he is really sharp. He's got momentum. A lot of people talking about how good George Payton is. Roll the dice on Jimmy Garoppolo, signed a two-year deal, 24 million a year, gets hurt game four. people are going to go, you're a dummy. He's hurt in San Francisco.

I missed 25 games in four years. He had a shoulder surgery. Dummy. Owners, by the way, new owner coming to Denver. Owners listen to everything. Don't kid yourself. They're watching this show. Now they're with everything.

They listen to talk radio in your hometown. And you're like, that guy said, my guy's a dummy. These jobs, you can go from the world's best blank to a bum in an hour because you tick off an owner. So to me, Jimmy Garoppolo, who I have been a huge. fan of. I am a Jimmy G. Advocate. Can't sign him now. It's a GM. I couldn't do it. It was a coach you couldn't do it. Sorry. I'd go. Drew Locke. Another year. I know. That ain't great. Whatever. I know. I'm not getting fired for Drew Lock Stinking.

I'm not a dummy for Drew Lockstinking. I say, hey, I made a run of Aaron Rogers. I couldn't get him. As the world turns. All right, Daniel Jeremiah, scout three times. Eagles, Browns, Ravens, Color Analyst Chargers. He's at the NFL Combine. in a room that's got very expensive wood or something, a very nice surroundings there. Okay, so give me, okay, I'm going to throw something out there, and you can laugh at it all you want, but every year I always say there's a best player in the draft. He may not go number one, but he's my lock.

My lock is the center for Iowa. And I watched him play three or four times this year, and I'm like, that's who I want. Iowa puts good NFLers, especially O-line guys, and tight ends. If I said to you, Daniel, not saying he's going one, who's the best player in the draft, the best pure talent that can't miss? Wow, that's a loaded question.

First of all, Colin, to give you a little scene set here, there's a reason why Jim Ursay was upset at the end of the year because he's got to pay for these fine walls here inside Lucas Oil Stadium. So he's got to get some return on that investment. But look, you know, to me, I think you look at Kyle Hamilton, the safety from Notre Dame. I haven't seen any bad tape. He's got elite size, got elite speed.

The characters is supposed to be off the charts. The intelligence is off the charts. You know, everybody has that debate. How high do you take a safety? You know, I see, you know, I saw Ed Reed when I was around the Ravens and the impact the safety can have. I see it with Derwin James and the Chargers, the impact he has. I don't necessarily buy into that camp of you can't take a safety up there in the top 10. I think this kid's is pretty darn special.

You know, he's on my podcast network. So I just sat down for an hour with Kyle the other day. What's amazing about him, I asked him how much he weighs. I would have guessed 206, 207. He's like 220. He is big and you would never know it. Like when pro athletes carry weight easily, you're just like, you're 220. Like he is a house.

Like he can knock you out. So that's another point about him. So let's talk about these quarterbacks. There's two, I think, you know, I haven't seen a ton of film. I watch Pickett a lot. I think the ceiling, I don't know what the ceiling is. And then the Willis kid, who's just big and ripped and has a power arm and all this stuff.

But let me concentrate on Pickett because I've seen him a lot. Three years, here's my concern. And I say this in college basketball. If you stay for a third year in college basketball, Daniel, I'm not interested. Your ceilings, I don't care what you are. You're Victorola Depot. Could be a good player. You're never going to be a star.

If you don't pop until your fifth year of college as a quarterback, I'm like watching Bryce Young. I'm watching Caleb Williams. I'm like fifth year, fifth game. name. Can he pick it? What's the ceiling? I mean, I look at him and I'm like, why it takes so long for him to be great in college? Yeah, it's a good point. You know, look, he's not Joe Burrow, but we heard some of those similar arguments with Joe Burrow taking that big leap in his last year. You know, some guys' timelines are different. And I think when you mix in the pandemic, you mix in an injury that he had last year, I think that that can explain some of these things. But yeah, I mean, everybody's timeline is a little different. I would agree with you in the sense that I don't know that the ceiling is. is ridiculously high with him. As a thrower of the football, he reminded me a little bit of Hasselbeck.

And, you know, Matt had a really good career. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of who, you know, I envision of what you're hoping he's going to be. Now, he's a good athlete. He can move around. But again, it's fit, right? If you get him and he plays indoors in New Orleans and it just get the ball out of your hand, make good decisions, be smart, be accurate.

I think he's got a chance to be wildly successful. But I don't know that necessarily he's somebody that's going to fit each and every team. Yeah. By the way, wide receivers over the last couple years, I mean, it's becoming more of a wide receiver league. It's a weapons league. It's why Bill Belichick suddenly looks mortal, is he's got a young quarterback and not great weapons. Is there a receiver of note to you that, and boy, last year, I mean, Jalen Waddle was big, Devante Smith. I mean, these Alabama guys are good.

Is there a Justin Jefferson has been unbelievable? Jamar Chase. Do we have something like that this year, like a pop year? year one impact guy? I think so. To me it's Garrett Wilson on there at Ohio State. I mean, this has been a wideout factory. When you think about James and Williams not necessarily having a role in that receiver

group, that's just how ridiculous they've been at developing that position there with Brian Hartline coaching up those wideouts. But this kid can do everything. You know, Colin, I'm big on wide outs. And Buck and I've been talking about this, about play strength. When you look at the best wide outs in the NFL right now, the way the game is played, and you saw it with Cooper Cup, you've seen it with Debo, San, you see it with Adams.

All these guys, they play strong. I don't care how big you are, but you got to have play strength. And to me, Garrett Wilson has tremendous play strength. I think he's going to run really fast out here at the combine this week. And he's a pure route runner. So I'm with you on kind of the team-building side. I think the offensive line. I've kind of adopted the philosophy of no tomato cans.

And Joy knows this. We talked about it on Thursday nights all the time. I don't need five Tony Bissellies. I just need zero tomato cans. And then I'll put a bunch of weapons and we'll go out won a bunch of football games. I want to ask you an NFL question because you're on the Chargers broadcast. You've been a scout three times.

You know how front offices think. Today, the Arizona Cardinals owner, the Cardinals announced, we signed the GM and the coach the new contracts, which to me was sending a big message. Don't push us around. I mean, that was a message to me is we know you're unhappy, but these guys now have a longer commitment than you do. What do you make of Larry Fitzgerald's dad, the press release by the, agent, all the smoke. What do you make of the Arizona situation with Kyler Murray?

Well, first of all, here's some irony for you. I went on our buddy Rich Eisen's show to the day, and I talked about how I didn't understand this letter and what they're trying to accomplish here. It didn't make any sense to me. And then I get on my plane to go to the combine and sitting right behind me is Eric Burkart, Kyleor Murray's agent. So I was like, you could not script that any better. But we had a chance to have a good conversation there. look, I think this is, it's an aggressive play on their side. They're trying to force something to get done. I know that, that Kime really likes Kyler Murray.

I know Cliff Kingsbury obviously took that job and was, you know, that was kind of his handpicked guy. So I think they support him. I think they're definitely, I think it's going to be fascinating to see how much they're willing to pay him and whether or not he's going to get what he's after. That's what this is all going to come down to. I'm curious to follow this to see where the next steps are, Colin. I've got to ask you,

Rams, Sean McVeigh, less need. We're not going to the Combine. Kyle Shanahan, we're not going to the Combine. Some of these young, brilliant coaches. I mean, I will say this. Sean McVeigh came out and said, I'm not playing any of my starters in preseason. Everybody went, you're crazy.

Now everybody, a lot of people copy in that. He's, you know, he's been like, the Rams have been like, forget first rounders. We're not into the first round business. We'll fill our whole second, third, fourth. We'll go get stars. What do you make of this combine? Joy and I talked about this.

is the combine increasingly less relevant? Is game tape matter more now than ever? Is the combine guys go there? It's paralysis by analysis. You talk yourself into stuff that you shouldn't based on tape. What do you make of it? Yeah, I think you've got to be careful and kind of put in its proper context, but I still think there's value here.

I really do. I think, look, if you were going to hire somebody to work for you, Colin, I think the more times you get a chance to be around that person, you're going to have a greater chance of hiring the right person, and more importantly, maybe not hiring. the wrong person. So anytime you get a chance to be around these kids, and whether that's the 15 minutes you get in the interview, whether it's observing them on the field and a workout and how they interact with one another, I think there's value to be gained there. But I do think it's always been

about the game tape in terms of the priority. You know, how do they play there? Now we have all the GPS data so you can find out the authentic speeds, the game speeds that these guys have. So there's never been more information outside of the combine than we have now. But I'm a believer in getting chance to be around these kids just as much as you possibly can. Good stuff, Daniel Jeremiah. By the way, eight and a half hour edition of NFL game day morning, Sunday, 9 a.m. Eastern NFL Network, all this combine stuff. I know folks love it.

There you go. Good to seeing you, my man. Good to see, buddy. A lot of different stuff. You know, I was, I'm going to talk a little bit. I'm not even going to tease this. I'm just going to talk. I'm not going to tease it.

Sometimes you tease stories. Sometimes you don't. But I was watching something happen yesterday, which is it's getting, it's, it's It wears me out. You know, it used to be, you know, like you'd say, man, my dad got mad at me like once. Like I can count the times. My dad was outraged at me. Like a one hand.

And I wasn't know as a great kid. I one time, I remember this. My dad was a doctor. He wore that white jacket going to work, Dr. Coward. And he was moving the sprinkler. And he gave me the hose, and I had it folded. And he got right to the sprinkler. I let it go.

He didn't like that at all. He was really, man. at me. You're living on the edge. Yeah, he was not happy. I was not happy at all. It was very funny. I mean, I thought so. It didn't land for him as well. I thought I was like carrot top out there doing props. Dad didn't think it was funny at all. But we live in a world now and it's just a bunch of nonsense where you're all outraged all the time. Not you. Not necessarily you, but conservatives, liberals, it's called cable television now. Like, oh, I'm outraged about everything. But sports did this yesterday.

And it was like, oh, come on. Come on, take a deep breath. I'm not going to tell you what it's about, but that is coming up next. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week,

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You can probably do it in sports, but as I've told you before, I don't get outraged much. I watched the State of the Union address last night for about 30 minutes. I went on Twitter and everybody's yelling and screaming, and Joe Biden. Biden is not interesting enough, captivating enough to be that outrage. It's really not. He's kind of boring. I voted for him. He's really boring.

But you do what you do. Baseball has a work stoppage. Oh, the outrage yesterday. What about the children? I'll never watch again. Context time from Uncle Colin. Baseball has had nine work stoppages. Last year, it made $11 billion.

and remains a regional television powerhouse. Don't blame Rob Manfred for the lack of national exposure. The sport in a world of caffeination, social media, and iPhones isn't fast enough to attain or retain young eyeballs. There's just not enough going on. Football and basketball, way more active. If you want to be outraged about something, go back to 1981, when our president at the time, Ronald Reagan,

who I loved, fired 11,000 air traffic. traffic controllers. You got on a plane and didn't know if your crazy Uncle Eddie was upstairs. That crap scared me. It should scare you. Baseball, work stoppages, it's our ninth. It's a business. The players, Colin, yes, I'm on the player's side, absolutely. I am. They're going to be okay because baseball's player union is by far and away the strongest, a thousand times stronger than the NFL players union. Their money is guaranteed, all of it. Lifetime insurance.

No salary cap. Everything has a salary cap. Everything except baseball. Players are going to be fine. Owners are going to be fine, but I will say this. They don't all make a fortune. No, I think there's like seven teams where you're just cash and checks. The Braves have like nine states that feed into them.

They make big money. So to the Dodgers, the San Francisco Giants, the New York Yankees, the Red Sox, St. Louis Cardinals. Texas Rangers do well. Same with the Astros. They love their baseball in Texas. And then there's a bunch of organizations that make a little, break-even, lose a little. And for billionaires, if you own, look up Mark Cuban, 45 businesses, it's okay to have a couple that lose 5, 6, 7 million a year. It's called a write-off.

It's how Trump didn't pay any taxes what he was president. But they're going to be okay, too. And so are the players. and so is the sport. And I know, I know, blame the commissioner. You do know he is working for the owners. And that's a delicate balance. So is Roger Goodell and Adam Silver, Don Garbert.

They're working for the owners. Stop blaming the commissioner because baseball's lost at social relevance. You watch the game. I watch it. It's slow. I can barely get my 16-year-old to watch television. Forget watching a baseball game. He didn't even like football.

You live in St. Louis. It's the summer. Cardinals have a nine-game winning street. Cubs come into town. Your buddy calls, a couple of cuties. Let's go drink some beers. Gonna stay home, pout. Brough, you'll be in that SUV, driving to that stadium, hanging out, drinking beers, watching a great sport and an amazing series. Baseball matters, it always has. And in cities like Los Angeles and Boston and New York

and Detroit and St. Louis in Chicago and Houston right now, it matters a lot. and we'll be back. Ticks me off. Owners are greedy. But I know that. And you know that. You don't get to be billionaires just because you're swell.

The bottom line matters a lot. And I don't think all these baseball owners all love baseball like the players do. But I don't think all players love it either. Remember Tony Gonzalez sitting on my couch? How many players I asked him the Hall of Fame tied in? How many players live for it and live for the game, not the check? He said, 3%.

A lot of players don't love it either. They do it for the check. A lot of people go to work to do it for the check. Let's take a deep breath. Baseball's not even my favorite sport. Dodgers are on. I watch. It's summer.

It's fun. I'm into it. I like my local teams to win. They do a lot. Can we stop being outraged at every turn? God, you don't have to like Joe Boyden. He's a, he's boring. It's not worth.

60 tweets. Joy with the news. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, Aaron Rogers Fusia with the Packers is up in the air, and Brian Goonkuth, the GM, said that they have not heard from a single team about a potential trade for Rogers. Now, I don't find this particularly surprising because... Are they picking the phone up?

Well, I mean, it's on Rogers. Like, he has to demand a trade. He's not available. Like, the Packers has not made Aaron Rogers available for trade. So he has to be the one that demands a trade. And then they have to oblige him, which Gutenkundt also said he never promised him that he would trade him, which I don't believe. You know, a house doesn't have to be for sale for somebody to knock on the door and say, I love your house. Would you consider selling it?

I mean, wouldn't you get calls just because? I mean, I mean, I, uh. Well, let's be. Let's examine this story a little closer. Let's put our big J journalist hats on for a second. Even if he did get a call, would it benefit the GM to say that he got a call? Because they want to keep Aaron Rogers.

So maybe strategically not saying that anyone is fibbing. That would be lying. Green Bay executives never do that. NFL executives. Not saying that anyone is fibbing. All right. So your theory is they're not going to tell you if they do get a call. There are enough teams that are in the quarterback market.

We know that the Denver Broncos are pursuing Aaron Rogers. So it's very difficult for me to believe that they haven't picked up the phone and called someone there. Let me see this story. So you're reporting that Brian Gooden-Cones- He said that they have not received any trade calls. Okay, so he's saying that publicly. Yeah. They haven't heard from a single team.

You know, honestly, I'm serious about this. I wouldn't even say that if I was Brian because Aaron may be offended by it. Aaron gets offended by a lot. Right. Right. So there's like, there's two sides of this. One, I could see no teams calling because Rogers has to demand a trade in order to leave Green Bay. But then I could also see him not talking about it because then you don't want to encourage the idea that people want him. Okay. Let me throw another thing out to you. See this Kyler Murray situation going on? Yeah. You see this Aaron thing going on? These GMs don't want to be held hostage. It's a turnoff. It's a turnoff. It's a turnoff. Well, I would say Aaron Rogers is in a different situation than Kyler Murray. Well, no, no, but I mean, let me defend Kyler Murray here. Kiner Murray has not publicly dropped a bad PR on Draft Day. That was bad.

No, but Aaron Rogers is a first ballot Hall of Famer is going to go down as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and has been there for 16 years. Do you think, let me ask you this. Do you think high maintenance in life is a turnoff? No. I mean, I don't like high maintenance people. They're exhausting.

but I deal with them if I have to. But in this league, there may be very few GMs that feel they have to deal with Aaron. Well, this is what I've maintained with the backers from the beginning. Like, if you, we know Aaron Rogers is high maintenance, right? Like the door's been closed on that conversation. I've seen his feet. I mean, come on. It's burned in my brain.

Yes, we know that. But with some talents, we know that. We live in Los Angeles. Some people are just more high maintenance than others. Everyone doesn't get the thrill of working with Joy Taylor and Colin Coward. All we want is some extra peanuts, you know? Colin just wants the donut tray back. So are you saying you're surprised by this or you think it's a fit?

I just think it's kind of interesting. It's an interesting story. That's exactly how I see it. There's angles to this. There are angles. I could see it not being true because you don't want to encourage the idea that there's a market for you. I could see it being true because Aaron has to demand a trade and the Packers want to keep him. I don't know if I would have said it publicly.

Aaron is, listen, this is not a criticism. Kevin Durant and Aaron are more sensitive than, say, Brady and LeBron. They're definitely susceptible to the public narrative. Right. So I don't say, I don't, I'm not banging on Brian Guttenkunds. I don't even know if I'd have put it out there. Aaron could be offended by that. And I don't, at this point, I need him back.

I need Aaron for two years. I think Aaron knows what he's going to do. But it is arguable that Aaron's 70% sure and not 100% and this could go like, this. 50-50. Well, it's possible they could refuse to trade him. That would probably cause him to retire. They want to keep Rogers and he has to make his intentions known before the new league

year, which is March 16th. Oh boy. That's a couple weeks away. We're 14 days away. It's a second today. From the start of the new league year. Yeah. And he said last week at the Green Base offseason plans for resigning free agents all hinge on

on Rogers' plans because they have a bad cap situation as well. So he really needs to make a decision. Everything is paused until he does that. The odds for his team next season, according to Fox Bet, the Packers have the best odds at minus 200, Broncos plus 250, then the Bucs, Steelers, Colts, Niners, Saints, and the Dolphins plus 1,600.

So the Browns didn't extend Baker Mayfield's contract a year ago when he became eligible for a long-term deal. I agreed with that decision. However, he could play the next season under the fifth-year option at 18.86 million. and Andrew Barry, the GM, said nothing's changed in terms of his expectations for Mayfield, being the team starter in 2022. He said he doesn't see Mayfield being in the final year of his contract as an issue. He also indicated the Brownsville, Mayfield's issues last season were injury related.

I agree. He played through the left shoulder injury. I agree. I defended him on that. I agree. I'm not, it's not his fault he was injured. I do think that he played through injuries he should not have played through. And if he had a long-term contract, he wouldn't have played.

You know why it's okay? for Baker to play on this fifth year deal. Unlike Kyler, who's upset a year early, he's not getting it. Because, and I've said this, I think Baker deserves a restart. When the media and the fans turn on you, get out of town. He had like death threats. I think what Baker, in Baker's mind, I'm guessing here, he's thinking I'm going to cut it up, I'm going to roll and get me out of here.

And I want to rest – by the way, Drew Breez got a restart. Brady did well in Tampa. Stafford got a restart. You can win with a restart. Yeah, I don't think that Baker Mayfield is in the conversation of Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady. No, no, no, no. But Baker Mayfield will absolutely get a second chance. Yeah, he's a starting quarterback. He's a starting quarterback with a really good arm when he's healthy. Yeah.

He's kind of good. I've sold my Baker stock. All right. I think that most of the situation surrounding Baker Mayfield are self-inflicted. I was really expecting him to take a step in maturity into the franchise quarterback aura. there's a certain way you can carry yourself where those type of things deflects off of you and then you do have defenders as opposed to, you know,

torching Mary Kay Cabot saying that she's lying about you to put food on the table. I defend Mary Kay at all costs. There's just certain things like I can't forget that you did. And when it becomes like another thing and another thing and you've got Odell leaving and now he's winning a Super Bowl, it's like eh. Yeah, you sold your stock.

As your financial advisor, I sold low. It took a loss for sure. A little bit of a hit. But I... You took a right off. Yeah. I feel like it was the right move. So Lakers lost to the Mavericks last night.

Actually, a competitive game. Well, they came back. They came back. They may have played their worst quarter of the year. They were a disaster early. Westbrook didn't play well, but at the end, they came back. They did. 109, 104, but their 10th loss in the last 13 games.

And the Bronz said after the game, he's not giving up hope on this season. We still have games to play. You got to, until you stump me out, cut my head all, bury me 12 feet under, then I got a chance. So that's my confidence. At the end of day, we got to come here and win ball games, and we got to play better. But as long as we got more games to play,

we still have a chance. So that's my confidence. You know, I hate losing. I feel like poop right now. But tomorrow's a new day. Can I just say that on his dress? Everybody likes fancy clothes. LeBron looks his best right there.

I think a guy with a denim jacket, a hat, that's how guys should dress in America. Everybody's wearing fancy stuff. You feel like everybody can pull that off? I wouldn't look that good. I like, everybody, everybody's got to be a style master. Does that look comfortable or not? Yeah, that looks great. It looks comfortable.

You could wear that. You could wear that in a ski town. I'm sure that jacket costs a cool $2,500 or more. Denim, probably got it Levi's, 80 bucks. You could wear that. ski town. You can wear that downtown. You can wear that out with your buddies. You can wear that at a sports bar. That's how people should drive. That is a good looks right there. You know, I, we're just going to sidebar here. Los Angeles is very good with that. You know, you bought anything.

I thought that when I moved to L.A. that there was a certain type of way I was going to have to dress. And for the most part, when you go out, everyone wears black. Everyone wants to be vampires. But there's certain cities like in Miami, if you're going out, you better look your best. You know slumming it to the clubs out here. You're wearing heels and you better look good. Here, You can kind of wear whatever you want. My first two years... There's so many different types of people here. My first two years in town, I wore nothing but bike shorts everywhere.

Oh, my God. Everywhere. I wear sweatpants every day, which Colin makes fun of me for. Well, you give up. You go home and give up. I do give up. You drive your minivan around town. It's absolutely about comfort.

Interesting thing, though. Jake Fisher of Bleacher Report just said that there are sources to say there's mutual interest between the Lakers and Westbrook to find him a new home this offseason. Yeah, that's an obvious one. he has a $47 million contract next year 2022 to 2020 to 23 so it's expiring

but it feels like that is the obvious move that has to be made He's hurting chemistry a little A little bit is yeah that's light It's not working All right joy with the news Well that's the news And thanks for stopping by The Hurd Lie News

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I just woke up. I ate too much late last night, jammed some popcorn down. Not a good call. Just eating too fast. Woke up felt like crap. And I thought, got to be a good teammate. Got to be here for the team.

Well, I mean, if you don't feel well. No, I didn't. But, you know, you just got to suck it up like LeBron. Playing her. Got a game to play. So sometimes if you, everybody's got somebody in their family. Everybody's got somebody at work that's a creative, a little impulsive, a little bit of an artist. And they're really smart and they're interesting and they're fascinating.

But they get, you know, my wife's an artist. She's more emotional than I am. She's very, she can see stuff I can. She's very creative. I'm not. And sometimes the answer I want is not there. I'm just going to take a deep breath and just wait a while. And I think that's what's happening in Indianapolis.

Jimmer says he's got a little artist vibe to him. Very creative guy, very thoughtful guy, loves his music, loves Hollywood. He can be impulsive and he's upset because of the way the season ended. And right now there's a lot of questions about let's get rid of Carson Wentz. Don't do that. Frank Reich's a really good coach. Don't get rid of him either. Here's Frank talking about Carson Wentz and how it ended.

I stuck my neck out for him. You know, I stuck my neck out for him. So, you know, last year I was a big part of, big part of that decision to get him here. And so, you know, I believe he's going to continue to have a lot of success of quarterback. That might be here. It might not be here. That decision has yet to be determined. You don't want to get rid of him.

Chris Ballard's the GM. He has a boss named Jim Erse. Jim Mersey is upset the way the season ended, and Ballard was asked about the future of Wentz and Indianapolis. Not saying we don't, but in the long-term best interest for us, I think as we sit down and work through whether Carson's the long-term best answer or not, is the best way I can put it. We're not there yet.

I'm not there yet. And that's something that we'll talk about as a group and move forward. And whatever decision we make will be the best one for us. I am there. You retain Carson Wentz, unless you can get like Aaron Rogers or Russell Wilson. Folks, he had 27 touchdowns and seven picks and a 95 passer rating with an average wide receiver room. That passer rating is better than five quarterbacks who made the playoffs.

Carson Wentz is really good. He's not top six or seven. He makes too many mistakes, but it should be noted that Matt Stafford threw pick sixes too. Carson Wentz is really good. He's six, five, he's mobile, he's strong. He finds open guys. He's good.

27 touchdown, seven picks. He can be a little reckless, not Sam Darnold, reckless. Not a lot of him on the market. 27 TD 7 picks 95 passer rating. Passer rating higher than five playoff quarterbacks. That's a third of them. Can't bail. Jim Mersay's mad, but let me say this as well.

They lost to the Jags. So did the Buffalo Bills, who I still think, you can argue, is the best team in the league. The Buffalo Bills lost to the Jags. Could not move the ball like Carson could. and move it later in the season. Pretty good up front, Jacksonville. It's also a divisional game. You know how divisional games are?

They're weird. They're always weird. Rams struggle even when Arizona wasn't good with Sean McVeigh. They'd win, but the games were close. It's weird, divisions. Kyle Shanahan was beating Sean McVeigh with backup quarterbacks. San Francisco's had the Rams number for years. McVeigh has like Pete Carroll's number.

Division games are weird. Also, the Colts always play like crap down in Jackson. ville. The previous year with Philip Rivers, they went down and lost. Remember that game? They couldn't move the ball. So, like, when you deal with creative people, powerful people, unique people, Jim Ursay, sometimes the answer's not there. You just got to let it, just let it go. Hopefully he finds it, they figure it out. The answer's not there. Everybody, cooler heads prevail. I understand disappointment. Divisional game. You lost to a team you lost to the year before in Jacksonville. This team beat Buffalo. It's a crazy league.

The Texans stomped the Chargers. The Chargers went into Cincinnati and stomped the Super Bowl Bengals. Brady could never beat the Saints. It happens. It's hard. Take a deep breath. Also, the Arizona thing is interesting. So I think it's noteworthy that the owner, the Bidwells, Michael Bidwell, of the Arizona Cardinals,

quickly signed the GM and the head coach to new content. tracks and announced it today. That was a message to Kyler Murray. By the way, I think he was going to re-sign him anyway, but the fact that he re-signed them this week and announced it this week, that's a message. It tells you this Kyler thing, I mean, you don't start working on a contract and figured out in a day. There's some stuff here with Kyler Murray that's no good, and they've known about it for some time. Greg Jennings came on yesterday, talking about it. to Larry Fitzgerald, who is all class, doesn't just throw guys under the bus. Larry's now out of the league, maybe the commissioner someday. Greg talked to Larry. Larry's dad has concerns

about Kyler. Apparently Larry did it as well. It was a good friend Larry Fitzgerald. He loves the organization. Obviously, everyone in Arizona loves him. I remember sitting down and talking to him and asking him about Kyler, and he said one of the things that he felt was that they rolled out the red carpet too soon. Too soon for a young guy. They gave him everything that he wanted, anything he had free reign, and it started to show in his personality and the way he carried himself. You have to now make a decision, a tough one, because he controls how good you are. Now, you can make a decision and say, you know what, we'll let you, we'll make this ugly and we'll let you go and we'll do all these different things, and Kyler can say I'll hold out. But I believe he has that

type of personality to where he's going to bet on himself. Yeah, listen, I'd still pay him, but, you know, this idea that you have to pay him on his terms, he's making $5.5 million this year. Okay, that's for a young quarterback, that's, you know, that's not, you understand, is he underpaid? Listen, a lot of overpaid pro athletes. It's okay to occasionally, if a guy hits early, to be underpaid for a little. But there are concerns, he's small, he's been hurt twice, got the baseball thing, his

personalities different. A lot of drama. So, I mean, if Larry Fitzgerald's telling people and his dad publicly came out yesterday, this is, uh, in the, in the owners like signing his GM and his coach to extensions, this is, it's not easy. There's stuff there. It is not ideal. There's too much drama in Arizona is uncomfortable right now.

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