The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - LeBron James

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

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This is The Herd, wherever you may be, and however you may make it as part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Colin Cowherd. And for the next couple of hours, I want to talk sports with you. We got the Sweet 16 continuing on. Four have moved forward. What a performance from Out. Alabama, and Florida, and Texas Tech.

And I love Duke and the Dukies. And look, I mean, I can, I understand what Colin has been saying about people didn't really love the Cinderella. Not everybody knows what they love, but they do. They like the David versus Goliath. They like, again, it doesn't mean that it was always great basketball. with when you had one one division state tournaments like you used to have back in Indiana

obviously that's when myelin high school or even when you had two or three divisions but when you have like 15 divisions and everybody's a state champion you're like come on like what are we actually doing here and I use that because Cinderella

not really having much of a fight it's it's one thing if it's one thing if you have you have high-powered teams that can pay the best players to come aboard it's a whole other thing if the high-power teams

sit there and go like hey let's go watch the mid-majors play and then every guy they get that's pretty good when they get to be 23 24 and they get a year or get an extra year then we'll pay them to sit on the bench like that's just the reality of it. So to people who don't understand what's happened in college basketball, you have, you have teams that have literally 30x the money of others, 40x the money of others, competing an NCAA tournament game. If you look at my bracket, it is nearly flawless,

and it's because all I did when I picked my bracket as a current sitting college basketball coach, I put no money on it, right? I just went to Fox SportsRae.com. My boss is like, you got to do it. All right, I'll do it. I just said, hey, who's got more NIL? And then obviously, once it gets to be sort of equal in NIL, then, I don't know, just on matchups I picked a couple.

But you're like, man, how boring you pick 401 seats. Like, yeah, they got more money than the other teams. Duh. And they got really good coaches. Because what the SEC did about, I don't know, probably started about eight, nine, ten years ago was first they got serious about basketball they had serious about basketball

Auburn hired Bruce Pearl obviously you look at Tennessee and they go and you hire a guy who I think everybody respects everybody respects and as much as as much as maybe he hasn't won an NCAA championship, but he's only been to one final four. Rick Barnes, hell of a coach.

I mean, you go on Rick Barnes. You have John Calipuri. You kind of go through the list. You're like, even before that, when Arkansas had Eric Muslman, like Mussel was, had it rolling at Nevada. They went out and spent a bunch of money on coaches, a bunch of money on facilities, a bunch of money on all the support staff,

And then once you got to where you could spend your money on players, they went all in. I liken what's happened to the SEC in basketball of what's happened when Barry Bonds was on steroids. Like, think about it. Sammy Sosa was a platoon guy who went on the juice and became a prodigious home run hitter. Obviously, he couldn't sustain it. He wasn't the world's greatest hitter. but he was an unbelievable weapon because he was clearly on steroids. It can also prolong great careers, Roger Clemens, right?

You take a Roger Clemens one of the greatest pitchers, but he started to fade, and then all of a sudden he started juicing up, and we saw what happened in Toronto and after he left Toronto or into Toronto, and then when he came back down into the contiguous 50 states and what he did late in his career. It elongates your career. But then you give Barry Bonds, who was our... already a Hall of Famer, like one of the great hitters of any generation, he's starting to fade too.

You give a great hitter the best drugs, and guess what? He becomes the best hitter we've ever, ever, ever seen. He doesn't get tired. His body doesn't break down, and yeah, he had 77 home runs. He probably would have had 90 if they pitched to him. That's what happened to the SEC. They were already all in on basketball. You already had Kentucky.

Now you give the conference that that is in proximity to many of the best athletes and they were already trending in the way of being the best basketball conference but what's happened? How did we go from Syracuse and Louisville and North Carolina and look North Carolina spent a lot of money this year but all this historic ACC at what pit? What happened to those teams and how do they get left in the dust by Ole Miss?

The hair-criss beard and they got huge money. So they did both. They spent that money on coaches, on facilities, and now they spend it on players. It's Barry Bonds on steroids. Yeah. Duh. You know, what happened to Michigan? Right?

Michigan got a great coach in Dusty May, and then they opened up their wallets, and they went out and bought a really good team. You combined a really good coach and a really good team with a really good facilities and a really good school. And guess what? They're awesome. Duh. Wasn't that hard. And Colin can say whatever he wants, but. everyone's memory of the final four may be memories of whomever in the past.

You may not think the Butler run because they were a top 10 team, but the Butler will never be in the final four again in this current climate. Because it's not that you have to beat one team that has, even Butler now, one team that has, say Butler's, I don't know what their NIL is, let's say a million. Like, you go against $5 million, $6 million, $7 million teams in three consecutive rounds, you're not going to, the likelihood of winning is nominal at best. And you used to be able to compete because they'd have younger players, you'd have older players, and you'd be able to have a cohesion.

You don't have that anymore. So, again, we may say, hey, the times have changed, they have. This is the current landscape, but you can't possibly say that you like it more in the early rounds of the tournament, because the early rounds of the tournament were about Vermont beaten Syracuse, were about Middle Tennessee State pull and upsets, East Tennessee State, Keith, Mr. Jennings, Harold the show Arsenal at Weber State beating North Carolina, Kent State getting to elite eight with Trevor Huffman as their point. car like you name it step curry

i don't care how good step curry like step curry as good as he is right his last year at davidson he would have been at one of the acc or scc or cc schools like well he comes for money do you think no matter what like stepf curry is the current gm of davidson's

program they just lost their best player to the portal why because what's the most they can pay him a couple hundred thousand dollars great he can make a million or more playing at one of the big boys. And as a college player, if you know, hey, I'm never going to make a million dollars playing basketball ever. Most kids and take it.

All right, let's get to the story of the week, which is LeBron, James, and Stephen A. Smith. I'm Doug Gottliebind for Colin. This is The Hurt on Fox Sports Radio. I don't know how much you guys listen to my show, and I got to never assume is the rule in sports radio. So the fact that I've said this before, if you listen to me on a daily basis, I don't apologize. It is my job to iterate and reiterate myself. I don't understand why LeBron did this. I just don't.

Like, I've been quiet my whole career and I'm going to body slam Brian Winhorst because he got his first job. You know, he first got his breakthrough job because of whatever was. assumed about his relationship with LeBron, what is the win? What was won by LeBron James calling out Stephen A. Smith for, what do you say, his Taylor Swift tour, which it's a great line, clearly a prepared line, but a really good line. What was won by him saying, hey, Janus would have had 250 points? Like, what exactly was accomplished? All it gave was some sort of credence or some sort of, um,

Amplification. What a great word, right? Amplification. I'm going to win Scrabble Tonight, kids. Amplification of what Stephen A. was saying. Yeah, of course, Stephen A. exposed himself as not, like, dude. If LeBron James would have put his hands on me, we would have thrown down. Like, stop it.

You're embarrassing yourself. You're embarrassing yourself. In addition to being 10 years older than LeBron James, he's 6-8-260 pounds. Stop it. There's nothing worse than a fake tough guy. And then, of course, he said LeBron wasn't at Kobe's funeral. He's like, my bad. Earlier today, he said, Nolan Richardson, God rest his soul.

Nolan Richardson is a former head coach of Arkansas. They won a national championship. The Lernerchon is very much alive and well. Yeah, did he expose Stephen A as being a guy who is riding the coattails of LeBron James, of who Stephen A actually is? And did Stephen A expose himself as a guy who does not do the homework? He just does the performance. Of course. But what's the win in it for LeBron?

Pointing out other people's flaws? Like, it may feel good in the moment, but why have you had to? At the end of the day, like, you're LeBron James, they're not. You've scored more points than anyone in the history of the NBA. You're not going to, there's no fight you're going to win with people who believe, like myself, that Michael Jordan was the better all-time player. There's no fight. Anything you do just reiterates it, right?

Two nights ago, they win on a tip-in in Indy. He doesn't play particularly well offensively, but if you're, what do they call them? LeBron sexuals? You're a LeBron sexual? you're like, see the goat. And if you're not, if you're a LeBron hater, you're like, yeah, well, that's why he doesn't take the game winning shot. But what was LeBron's need to say,

I didn't sign with Nike because they had Michael Jordan, I signed with Nike because they offered more money. $90 million. Or actually, he didn't say more money. He just said, I got $90 million. Where, again, Pat McAfee, if it was a normal interview, the follow-up was, what was the Adidas offer? Because if you sign for less money with Nike than you did with Adidas, well, then why did you sign with Nike?

Or Nike better? I think the answer would be, yeah, but $20 million better? Or was it because of Jordan's legacy? Why did you wear number 23? Duh. But again, what is the actual win? Here's Charles Barkley with Dan Patrick earlier today on Fox Sports Radio. LeBron, he's too big to be that type of bully.

The bully Stephen A. and to bully Brian Winhorse. Brian Woodhouse is a sweet person, man. He's just trying to do his thing. And I've always liked LeBron, but him being a bully, it turned me off, Dan. But I will say that Stephen A, the way he reacted,

was so lame and weak. LeBron, like I say, I blame him for starting to bullying, going on Pat's show just bullying people. But the way Stephen A reacted, going on Gilbert's podcast, talking tough and come on man you're better than that

so there's only there's only losers in this scenario correct correct tell you a story real quick okay and I'm not LeBron James

matter of fact I'm the opposite of LeBron James even when I worked on ESPN covering college basketball but a lesson that I learned a long time ago I was doing half time of the ACC tournament and Mike Shoshchewski coached

was the coach of Duke. And I think they were playing Maryland at the time. And at halftime, they interviewed Chris Collins, who's now Northwestern's head coach and was then the associate head coach. And they come to us in studio, and I immediately said, and Duke was like losing by two points. Why do we hear from Chris Collins? Because at that point in time, I think only CBS would get Coach K at halftime.

And remember, it's two questions. What do you think of the first half, coach? What are you going to do the second half? Thanks, coach, right? That's all you really ask. But they're down two points, and the side of the reporter goes to Chris Collins, and Chris Collins gives two really good answers, and they come back to studio, and I said, like, why are we hearing from an assistant coach, not from Coach K? And there's a guy named Scott Reese, and Scott was our host of the time.

Scott's like, well, what's the matter with that? And I was like, well, because when you go into the locker room, unless it's that assistant scout, you don't hear from all the other assistants. The assistants makes suggestions, but the head coach makes the substitutions, makes the final decisions. And oh yeah, by the way, he's Mike freaking Shishowski. He's the coach of Team USA basketball.

He's the most successful modern day basketball coach in the history of the sport. Yeah, I'd like to ask him two questions. Or you have to like, I'm not going to do the interview if we can't hear from Coach K. So we get done with the segment, we go to break, and there's a red phone behind me. And the man that hired me at ESPN,

is a guy named Dan Steer. Dan Steer's nickname is The Vision. Because the vision sees things other people do not. So the Vision calls me and he says, What the F are you doing? I was like, well, I just did halftime vision. Like what? Why are you calling out Duke and calling out Coach K for not doing an interview?

It was already pre-agreed that we're, I was like, I understand, but like, why wouldn't Coach K? we want to hear from Coach Kay. And he asked me the same question I would ask LeBron James. What's the win? What was the win in what you just said? And is the squeeze worth the juice?

What was the win? What was the win in LeBron James going on McAfee? Like if it was to tweak Stephen A. Smith, instead of confronting him at the Laker game, he should have pretended like he doesn't exist at the Laker. game. Giving credence. And I've said this back when I was doing half-time of games, when Beheim would call me out,

when any other coach when the Big Ten Commissioner called me out a long time ago. By giving credence to the things I say, and also instead of, and here's what I will credit LeBron, that he didn't assassinate Stephen A's character. he just assassinated his takes. Did he fib about it? Sure. He can't take constructive criticism of Brony James. Because all I've offered up is constructive criticism of Brony James.

And he tweeted at me. So he clearly can't take it. But the easiest thing, if you want somebody to go away and you're somebody super powerful, pretend like they don't exist. And instead, LeBron fed the beast. Fed the beast. All right, coming up next in The Herd, I'm Doug Gottlie, filling in for Colin.

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He's Matt Holliday. He's a seven-time All-Star, four-time Silver Slugger. Of course, his son Jackson was the number one overall pick of the Baltimore Orioles two years ago, plays for the Orioles all last year and into this year, obviously going to get a full season with the O's. He joins us now in the herd on Fox Sports Radio. Yesterday, opening day, man, they're treating you like super old man now. You're in the back of some car doing the whole prom king wave. Is that what was happening yesterday?

Well, unfortunately, I am 45, and I think that's the, unfortunately, the circle of baseball life is that eventually you're the guy that sits in the back of a car and smiles and waves and then go about your. day. So, yeah, I mean, I missed the thrill of playing an opening day, but it was enjoyable to be back in St. Louis and get a chance to be around opening day at least. And so, yeah, yeah, yep, I'm old, so that's how it works. Did you, you did, you feel, did, I mean, like, look, it's still cool, right? You go out there, it's Bush Stadium, it's opening day, it's Americana. But when you're going around, you're like, I'm that guy now, right?

I'm that. Yeah, unfortunately, it's coming for us all. You know, part of you looks out there on the field and goes, you know, I think I could still, I could still remember. We had, hold on, we had this conversation last year at your house. We did. Me, you, Ethan Jackson, and we're like, could you still do it? And you're like, yeah, as a DH? Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely, I could still do it. Right? So, do you still feel that way? That was last year. No, that was last year. Well, I know I'm saying like, you know, a year later here, my hips, it's not a good spot. That's right.

You know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that's coming down anytime soon. So, I would say, I think, I think it's over. I think the, uh, the idea that I could somehow be a productive hitter in the major leagues is probably, uh, figure my imagination. All right. That's, that, that, that, that's fair enough. Um, what about the Cardinals? Uh, you know, A couple years ago, it was bottom of the barrel.

Obviously, it's been a rebuild. What are your expectations for the cards this year? Well, I think that there is no expectations from anyone, really. I mean, I think everyone has written them off as probably non-contending and probably the bottom of the basement of the NL Central with some of the younger teams and talented kind of trajectory of the Reds and the Brewers and even the Pirates. So I honestly think that they still have a team that could surprise some people and win maybe a few more games than predicted. I mean, I'm not going to sit here and predict them to make the playoffs.

But in looking at a roster like that, there is always a chance that young players take a dramatic step forward or at least a substantial step forward that would allow them to win more than people are projecting. So I don't know that that's, I don't know that I would predict that or that I would even, you know, sort of guess that. But I do think they're going to, I think they'll be better than people think. I think that they will win more games than projected. I still think Sunny Gray and Eric Fetty and Miles Michaelis are a decent, you know, they present a chance to have good starts. They have one of the best closers in the league, which is always nice to have. have a lead in the eighth inning, you feel like you're going to win that game. So I think that that's an advantage.

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Eric Fetty, or do you sort of use them moving forward as people to build around? So it's a fascinating year for the Cardinals, in my opinion. Matt Holliday joining us, former Cardinal, former Yankee, former A, can't forget the six months

with the A's, and of course former Rocky joining us in the herd on Foxport I'm Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin. You know, one of the other things that you and I have talked about is, you know, with the rule changed in baseball, it changed how the sport is played, right? Brought speed back to the game, brought athleticism back to the field. You know, I've talked to, you know, the guys with the brewers, and everyone in the brewers throughout there in the field has been a shortstop at some point in their lives, right?

Defense is so much more important now than it's ever been. Are the Cardinals one of those teams, kind of like where the Yankees had been, where they were constructed for a different era, where you could have bigger, older, home run hitters, and yet all of a sudden the sport changed, and they got kind of caught up in the wash? Yeah, I would probably point to the fact that they have not developed players in their own system

that have been able to play at the All-Star caliber level. The Latin American pipeline has not been, good in the past few years. So I would say it's probably more of them revamping their minor league system and their development that I think that they would point to and that I would point to. I don't necessarily think it was like they got stuck with a certain type of team that passed them by. I think it's more of just you have to produce, if you're not going to, and even the teams like the Dodgers that are buying free agents, you've got

to produce the core of your team from your own organization. You have to get the first and second and third round picks. You have to get them right more often than not. You have to score some of your own superstars so that you can supplement around them to have sustainable success, in my opinion. So I think that that's something that they haven't been able to do recently. And eventually it kind of caught up to them where they were, they were, um, They were sort of just filling holes and trying to maintain competitiveness as opposed to putting a team together that could actually win the World Series. And I think they got to the point where they said, you know what, the system is broken, and we've got to revamp from the bottom all the way to the top. And so I think that's the process they're in right now.

And I think that's moving forward, that's something they've got to get back to. What about the Dodgers? you know, an amazing lineup, an amazing team that gets to another World Series, finally wins a World Series outside of obviously the COVID World Series, and then what do they do? They go out and spend more. What's the flaw to the Dodgers? Well, the flaw is that it's baseball and that anything can happen.

You could have injuries. You could have, you know, performance drop-offs. It's a game where anything can happen. the best team doesn't always win in the playoffs because, as you know, October is crazy. And if you get in and a team gets hot and they run into the wrong team, anything could happen. And so I think that that's still a variable, and in all sports, but I think particularly in baseball, that that kind of thing could happen. But I think, you know, from just the pure perception of their roster, it's hard to pick much apart. I mean, they have aircraft carriers in their lineup that can carry the team

and have starting pitching with high-end stuff, and they have a bullpen that if the starter comes out in the fifth inning or fourth inning, they can still go to three or four of other teams' closers in recent history that have dominant stuff. So they can beat you in a lot of different ways. So I don't really see any major hole. and their team, but I do think that, like I said, not always does the most talent or the best team win.

We talked a little bit about efficiencies. You know, last night I watched Alabama hit, what, 25 of 51-3s. Obviously, that's like crazy, crazy numbers. But, you know, you and I watch the NBA. You watch, you know, TNT and talking about how, you know, they don't like how all these threes that are taking whatever. and my pushback is like we really want to go back to the age of inefficiency, you know, for baseball, right?

We know what became, it used to be either, what was it a couple years ago, 66% of the time, the ball never touched anybody other than the pitcher, the catcher, or the hitter's bat, right? Because it was either strikeout, walk, or home run. What about now? With speed returning to baseball, because you can only throw over there a couple times, and the bigger bags. What are the new rules of efficiency in baseball? Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that that's probably the one major thing that stands out

is the idea that now you're going to have to manufacture runs because I think if you stick around and wait to try to hit the home run, it's boring baseball. It's hard to do. The pitching is at an all-time, it's at an all-time high. I think the Velo's up again. And so there's going to be a lot of strikeouts. It's going to be tough to score runs.

So I do think that having players that can find ways to score runs outside of the home run, which, as we all agree, is boring when all it is a strikeout, a home run, or a walk. I mean, that's not fun to watch. So I do think that there's a lot of exciting young players and Shohei stealing 70 bases and Ellie de la Cruz, I think he stole 80 bases and Ronald Kunia. and you have these players that offer a dynamic of really exciting. I think baseball has a lot of really, really fun to watch young superstars to build the game around. So I think it's like you said earlier, it's a more athletic.

It's trending more athletic, which is good. I think people like to watch that. So I think that's probably the biggest thing. All right. Oh, man. I hope your hip gets better. You've got to get back on that. It's pickleball season.

and I know it's, you know, like, out there, I know it's always pickleball season, but especially as it warms up, outdoor pickleball season as returned. I wish you the best of luck on the circuit, and you look good as the old man in the back of the car yesterday. Yes, I believe we get a year older every day, every year at the same day. So it's a happy. Differences, we also get better looking every day. That's the other part. That's true.

That does happen. All right. Hi to everybody at the ranch. Thanks for joining me. All right, too. That's my guy, Matt Holiday, joining us fresh off of being the smile and wave guy in the back of the old, I think it was like a Ford Thunderbird or something yesterday with the Carls. Let's get to Greg Toey with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, Dugger, we got a couple of breaking news stories here. One, in the NBA, this is very interesting. Just in the last half hour or so, the Grizzlies have announced they have fired head coach Taylor Jenkins with just a few weeks left in the regular season.

The Grizzlies are currently the five seed. They're only a game in half out of the three seed. They struggled of late, losing four or five without draw Morant with his hamstring injury. But you're the hoops guy. Why does this happen now so close to the playoffs? What's going on? I don't know. Is this player driven?

I don't know. Like Legit, no idea I mean Look, that's why You know, we can make fun Of all these guys That are insiders

By the way, shout out to Brian Winhorst Byrne Byrins was accent About LeBron Um Kind of talking ish on him, whatever

And he said Lebron knows me nothing I owe him a lot I mean that's just Take the High Road Which is all Lebron had to do It was just weird Yeah

But now we're like We're gonna all tune in To hear Windy Wendy, why? Why? Who is it? Because I think Taylor Jenkins is a really, really good coach.

That stunts me. Yeah, I don't get it. I mean, it's just, especially as you're, they're not, it's not like they're, like, it's not like they were like, you know, middle tier of the West and then they've just literally fallen apart the last few weeks. Like, they're right there. I mean, there's not that much. It separates these teams in the West.

It would, I mean, look, either he doesn't get along with his boss in the GM. or with the owner, or, you know, his star players not listen to him anymore. Yeah, and that's usually it, isn't it? This just came down as well. The Colorado Board of Regents have approved a new five-year $54 million deal for head coach Dion Sanders that will make him one of the highest paid coaches in the country, taking him through the 2020-season. He will make roughly $10 million, just over $10 million per year. We all kind of assume Dion was out the door when his sons were done.

playing and his name was obviously floated around with the Cowboys job but do we think he could actually stay at Colorado long term? I think he's going to stay at Colorado long term. I mean, does it because also like we heard about the Florida State thing and there were

other jobs more high profile than Colorado Look I think he I mean again if you want to keep him you have to pay him. I think the and he's earned it right he's earned it based upon what they've done attendance wise and how much money they make. The only thing that I don't want to

hear from Dion is I don't want to hear any complaints about not having enough money. Yeah, I can't get these kids because I can't afford. We can't afford them. Right, because it all now can come from the same pot, right? Just so people are aware, you can, the collective, because you have the rev share, right? And schools at the power four level, okay, they have a rev share. it's like I think $22 million

basically split between two and a half sports right and so college football will have a gigantic pool and then the big time programs have even more in a collective for some sweetener but what you can't hear from Dion

is I do not want to hear anything about like we just don't have enough money because hey big boy you don't have to take $10 million like five is enough six is enough seven is enough if you put three of that into the collective buy up you know then we have no more complaints

so he has earned all of that money earned it you flip that program it is more than competitive do I think they can be I guess we'll find out right it was you know you show up and you sit down

like look this is the challenge for so many coaches when they go to a new job or whatever it's like you know what happens what happens when you know, if you have a son, we've seen this for Greg McDermott, right? His best run at Creighton was when he had Doug McGrath. Right, yeah.

But they've continued on the success. Yep. Hasn't fallen off. Tucker DeBrease is going to play for his dad at Indiana. He didn't play most of this year because he had a shoulder injury. You know, what does Indiana look like when he's done? So, again, I don't know what they look like, but they clearly had to match whether it was a real or fake offers out there in the NFL.

and that's what they've done. And they fill up those stands and the tenants. They're competitive in the Big 12. All great. But what you can't do if you take top dollar, you can't complain about if there's not enough dollars for something else on campus. Yeah, they're recruiting.

We'll be fascinating to see now that Shador's gone. That's the news, Dugger. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Wait to you what John Caliperi said about his team's collapse late last That's next in the herd.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome in. Okay, so if you're watching college basketball last night, you may have seen one that all the favorites won, although Texas Tech didn't cover. But Texas Tech comes from way down to come back. They're down six with a minute 20 to go. And ultimately end up coming up. back and beating

they beat Arkansas in overtime. And some of the conversation is over whether or not whether Arkansas should have fouled up three when Texas Tech hit a three with I think it was 10-and-a-half

11 seconds to go. Here's John Calipari after the game. In my career, I let that go. Let the guy get to the room. They're not going to value, you know, and with that kind of time, just me. You call a timeout. Now you got to worry about what he's doing, how he's playing, the inbound. What are you doing? So I usually let that go. Now, because it ended the way it is, yeah, I wish I would have called a timeout. But 99% of the time, I let that go. Because now I know what they're doing. They know what we're doing. That's why we did it. Okay. So that's calling a timeout when Texas Tech scores.

to take the lead late. And I understand, like, I, I know you look at our record, you're like, I don't care. I've actually coached college games, and we lost our last game of the regular season, up 14 the second half, up five with, I think, 18 seconds to go. And we did, for the most part, we prepared the guys and tried to execute everything right you're supposed to do with the lead, which, by the way, Arkansas did not. Okay, it starts with the burning or milking of the clock. So, Tui, I'll just ask you, do you know what that means in the college landscape?

Burning the clock? Yes. When I say burning the clock with the lead, what do you think that means? I mean, passing the ball around? Okay, no, it's not. Okay, burning the clock is when the ball goes, when the ball goes through the hoop, in college basketball, the clock, the clock until the entire first half, and you can do it to burn off a two for one.

But in the second half, when you have a lead, when you have a lead, the smart thing to do is to shorten the game, and you can shorten the game by not touching the basketball, and then once you get the basketball, you can throw the ball to the official, you can roll the ball in bounds, because the shot clock doesn't start

until you touch the ball. ball. Make sense? Yep. So some teams, maybe ours, are taught to, if we're in a burn situation, you can, one, don't touch the ball. Two, when the inbounder gets the ball, you can throw it to the official who promptly throws it right back to you.

Okay. You can also, while the ball is bouncing, you can buy time by teaching guys to tie their sneakers. again, clock still runs, and then rolling the ball in bounds. Because if you think about it, at one point out, they're up. I think the most of the lead was late. It was 11, and then 13 with 4.43 to go. 13.

13. Every time Texas Tech scored, including Christian Anderson's three-point shot, you don't touch the ball. Let a bounce, let a bounce, roll it in, whatever. Anyway, those things can be done to shorten the game. Shorten the game. But in regards to calling a timeout, not calling a timeout, I had this exact same situation happen three times this year. And despite the fact that we practiced with our team, I went back and tracked it, we 42 times in practice. We have a play three seconds or above, up until seven, seven seconds or below.

We have a play. And sometimes it was executed, sometimes it was not. People always forget if you call a timeout, it allows the other team to set their defense. What's crazy about the timeout was Texas Tech Coach tried to call the timeout after they made the basket to set his defense. You can be right and still miss a shot. That's what happened to Arkansas. It was the right thing to not call a timeout. It was the wrong thing to not have a better play on.

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