The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Looking at the ratings

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Colin takes a look at the sport ratings in the regular season and in the playoffs Why playoff basketball simply looks and feels different   Guest: Nick NurseSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. We're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in Hour 2, live in Los Angeles. It's the herd, wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jordan Schultz filling in for J. Mack, who's back on Monday. Caleb Williams, you heard it. Schreger said it, has met twice with Chicago Bears Brass,

once in L.A. at a hipster spot. Once in Chicago, it's kind of a burbs steak place. Hit it out of the park both times. Not surprised, I imagine. Not at all. I think there's a misconception about Caleb Williams, Colin. You talked about earlier. He's charismatic.

He cares. And not only that, he's such a creative guy. And sometimes when you're creative and different, you can be mislabeled as a malcontent, someone that's tough to deal with. That's not the case at all with Caleb Williams. And I spoke at length with Cliff Kingsbury, who was with him all year.

in SC. And he said he's a great kid and he is misunderstood. Yeah, I mean, it could be Angel Reese, it's Caleb Williams. 24 hours in a day. You get a snapshot of trash talking and it's like, she's not cool. That lacks class. Guys trash talk and it's part

of the game. I go to NBA games. I'm going to one Friday. They'll be a trash talker. Guys can do it, women can do it. Doesn't define who you are. You jump into the crowd, Caleb Williams to hug your mom, get emotional. Doesn't define who you are. If you took the average person. Look how stupid

our politicians look and they're adults. 40, 50, 60 year old. They're misstep. They're stepping in it constantly saying ridiculous stuff. Like, don't define somebody, especially a young person because of a moment at a game in competition. Tom Brady's screaming at coaches during games.

Peyton Manning's barking at Jeff Saturday. Angel Reese can complain to Caitlin Clark or get in her face. It's competition. Is anybody out there sweat before? The way, that's competition. It's what you do. You talk. You're building up your hubris and your confidence. So, Caleb, the times I've met Caleb, I think he's great.

I don't know Angel Reese. But, you know, it's amazing that we take these snapshots of 21-year-old people and go, that's who she is. That's it. You don't see her at home. You don't see her with friends. You don't see her at practice. You don't know if she's coachable.

Well, there she is. I mean, you can judge me. I've got notes here. I've been doing this a long time. Make a judgment of me, but a snapshot of an athlete who's 21 collegiate, you're not getting anything. You don't see them in class. You don't see them in film study. You don't see they could be the best teammate. They could be, you don't see them on the plane. Somebody, I've seen young people on a plane. Somebody's a nervous flyer. They come over, hold their hand. You don't know

what Angel Reese is all about. You don't know what Caleb Williams all about. Now, there are people that make, you know, Johnny Mansell gave us four, five, or six or seven different opportunities to go, I don't love that judgment. That's different than a snapshot of somebody jumping into the crowd to meet a parent. By the way, LeBron James was talking about this. I think it's interesting. He has a podcast with JJ Reddick, a couple of smart guys. And they were talking about this during the podcast.

LeBron likes, he can tell very early if a young player is going to be successful in the NBA. Coaches and veterans being able to get on them. And there's no snickering. there's no backtop. They almost look like, just keep on coming with it because I want to see how much I can. I want to see how much, just keep on, keep on, because I'm exorbing everything.

I have said this. That's when you know, like, oh, he's going to be in his league for a long time. Most great players want to be coached hard. By the way, I've said this about college football and the culture of it. Every kid that signed up for Nick Sabin was going to get screamed at for four years. They all knew it. everybody that signed up for hardball was going to be hard coached.

Like our football coacher, high school coaches, college coaches, NFL coaches, they bark. Our basketball culture is different. AAU feels different. But the European model, young guys playing against older guys. You got to beat out older guys. That's why I'm a big fan of college basketball. You go to Yukon. You got to beat out an NBA guy who's a junior.

And I think that, you know, that hardens a player, makes him more use to heavy coaching. Draymond Green. Why can he take the hard coaching? Tom Izzo. That's why Steph Curry bark. Steph Curry and Draymond have been at each other multiple times for 10 years. He had Tom Izzo. I think it matters.

Nick Nurse coached the Philadelphia 76ers, only coached to everyone a NBA title and a G-League championship is now joining us live. You know, LeBron does talk about that, Nick. And that's not to say that A.U. doesn't have a space. But I do, if you look at that Warriors dynasty and that Spurs dynasty, You know, Parker's playing overseas, Manu's playing, they're playing against the older guy. Tim Duncan, four years of college, Steph College, Clay College, Draymond. And you've been in the G-League.

Is there value in that European college model that maybe we don't appreciate sometimes as they transition to the pros? Well, I think what you're talking about, Colin is culture. You know, the word everybody uses as culture. and I think that the seriousness of learning, seriousness of wanting to get better. I know you had Coach Hurley on the other day, and you know, you talked about, you know, you come here, we're going to be demanding, and you've got to know it before we get you. And I think they pick the right guys, and I think that's what culture is. Yeah.

You know, so when M.Bed is gone, your other players have to play without him, but you all know we're a better team with M. So what was the transition like knowing guys I want you to grow but we got the big fella coming back and we're going to change. Did you experiment more with a maxi? Did you do other things? Yeah. I mean, I think that a couple things.

I think a lot of the team was put together as role or pieces to play around Embed and then obviously when he's not there, they've got to step outside those roles. That's okay and we needed them to do that. I think the biggest thing that I hope we've learned, and I think we have, is the compete level, like raising the compete level up, and we had to fight like heck to just be able, every night we went out that we had to fight like heck just to be in these games. And I think that our defense has gotten better. Our effort has our attention to detail has with a lot of those guys,

and some of them have made some progress in those areas, and that should help us. Now you got heat, grizzly, spurs, pistons, magic nets. You don't have a lot left. And I was saying, I think I said yesterday on the show, I think it takes 12 to 15 games for a big to get back in shape. I just spitball in here. I don't know. It feels like in the NFL, they always say you need three exhibition games

to get that metal in the calluses. Is M. B.D. going to be in playoff shape by the time it comes around. Can he get there? Well, I hope so. I mean, I think if you're thinking about it positively, you're hoping he gets there and then you're going to say he's probably the freshest he's ever been going into playoffs ever, really. So he conditions quick and he gets rhythm quick too. Like it's pretty interesting to watch him when he's coming back from this stuff.

So, you know, right now we just want to get him out there. We've played one game, close to 30 minutes, and let's just see how we can keep progressing and go from there. You know, I said the other day, nobody can stop Yokic and beat or Janus. so why not draft Zach Edie? Give somebody else a try. I mean, Draymond Green will acknowledge, I can't stop Yokers, I can't do anything. You coached Edie on Team Canada.

Coach, there's got to be a space for him. Size matters, right? Well, I love him, Colin, first of all. I had him, I almost, he was 18 years old, and we were in our first training camp, and we needed some of our young kids there, and we had about four or five of them, And we couldn't, we couldn't, our guys didn't know what to do with them.

We couldn't stop them. I'm like, forget this kid going to play in the under 18 world championship. Let's take him with our team. We didn't do that that year, but I said, listen, this guy's got to be part of our program. Like, he's certainly a problem. And you know what else? He's super competitive, Colin. He really super hard worker.

Yes. Like, there's some, he's out there every day work, and he's out there every day playing like there's a lot to like about this guy for sure yeah you know kately clark's fascinating and i know you're a proud iowa and um hey everybody i know from iowa's proud anybody that's gone to the university of iowa is proud and you should be you're hot guys you should be but you know everybody was banging on kim mulkey the other day and i said folks you understand everybody tried to stop coby and jordan and lebron forever gretzky the great ones see the trap coming before it's there. I mean, Steph and Draymond doing that two-man game,

they've been lobbing that thing. Nobody stops it. If you could just trap Steph and get him out of the ball, everybody would do it. And I watch Caitlin Clark, and you're a basketball coach. Can you defend her at that level? To me, she's just too perceptive. She's too intuitive to trap. That's my takeaway. What do you make of her as a talent? Yeah, so, first of all, I was at the game the other night. Man, am I glad I went to that? That was really like, being there live was really something to see. And I had to do it.

I hadn't been able to get there and was close enough there in Albany the other night. That was really something to see. Listen, I agree with you. She really has some get rid of an early vision. I think her passing is the most fun thing for me to watch. I think she's leading people to baskets. And they aren't even going there. Like she's sending them there because of the pass.

and she really has the kind of escape dribble to get away and create the space she needs, you know, like some other great players that we know in the NBA do. But yeah, it was, and it was something to see, and hopefully they got a couple more to try to win, but really amazing to watch that whole program. I'm so happy for Coach Bluter and everybody there.

Yeah. Let's finally, the NBA playoffs are coming up, and I've been saying this about OKC. I know they're good, but outside of the bubble year, which I always felt all the married guys and the guys with kids were struggling with it because they were away from their family for sick. And the young guys loved it. They go play video games. They play basketball. The bubble, the young teams kind of beat up on some of the old teams.

But in the playoffs in my life, Nick, mostly the veterans who have been in NBA waitrooms for years, they manipulate refs. There's just something about age. You've got a team which got some years on it now. Do you use that as an advantage if you've failed? a younger team in the east, those playoff games, that medal, there's a certain, you know, these guys have been in a pro-weight room, pro-nutrition for years. Do you use that in the playoffs? Well, I think that experience always matters, especially in the playoffs. I mean, LeBron just said it, like the playoffs is a whole other thing. The prep, playing the same team over

and over, the toughness, the grind that you have to go through. And I've heard somebody say, it's almost another sport, you know, that once the playoffs starts. the guys that have been through it, the guys that can physically handle the grind of it, they can mentally handle all the prep and all the adjustments and the changes and stuff's happening out there fast, sometimes the adjustments, certainly, you know, the guys that have been through it should have an advantage. Yeah. Well, I'm going to the Nick's Bulls Friday in Chicago.

Nick, if you need me to do some scouting, I am always at your disposal and you know that, Nick. I'm a loyal guy. If you need me, I'll send you any notes you need on that. Okay? You okay with that? I will take anything I can get, come on. Hey, listen, you are almost a coach.

I know how you talk about coaches a lot. I listen a lot. You know I listen all the time. So you've got your coaching. You're more of a GM, but you know coaches. Yeah, I'd rather do the firing than be fired, but my owner would probably fire me because I'd talk too much. Nick Nurse Sixers, easy got to root for.

Good seeing you, coach. All right. See, Colin. Thanks a lot. Oh, you bet. So I've been saying this. The Philadelphia team, to me, is more dangerous than Milwaukee to me because I think it fits better. He said it.

When they got Embed, you know, they've been trying to figure out Hardin Simmons, Maxie. And Maxie's the one that fits with him in Tobias Hare. They've been trying. So now he comes back. We don't know if Dame, like Bam and Butler now we all acknowledge that works. You didn't know it three years ago. Stuff doesn't, I mean, they almost got, you know, Tyler Hero worked. then he had a bad year, then he worked.

Boston works. We know that. Kyrie and Luca now. It didn't work initially. Now it works. Paul George Kauai can work. AD and LeBron worked, then it didn't feel like AD was committed.

Now it works again. So there, to me, the most dangerous team outside of Boston. And if I was Philadelphia, and I'm going up against Boston, and I'm a massive underdog, that is maybe just the juice Philadelphia needs to extend that stares and possibly beat them. I don't think anybody can beat Boston.

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And so you're going to avoid all these landmines and lawsuits, which are going to bankrupt the NCAA. The NCAA is toothless now. It's dead. So in the end, a story came out that the NFL is working with school presidents. I called a couple of executives in my business. they're not sure if it's just this iteration's going to work or it's a negotiation to eventually get players a union more money. Whatever it is, we are on our way to doing what should have been done years ago, which is organizing a billion dollar a year business with grown-ups. School presidents are not equipped to deal with this. Athletic directors can't do it.

They don't have the budgets. Football pays for everything. So I don't care. Apparently this super league would have eight. 10 team divisions. The winners all go to a 16-team playoffs and then some at-large teams. I don't know if this is going to work perfectly, but it's time. The NCAA now it looks like school presidents are acknowledging white flag. We give up.

We can't do anything. NIL, transfer portal. We're just chasing stuff down a hill now. So for that, I like it. I don't know if some Super League is going to happen. I got some pushback on that this morning from people inside the sport, inside networks. Here's Jordan with the news. No, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's start in the NFL. We are officially three weeks away from the draft. Michael Pennix Jr. has been visiting with teams this week. I've been told he's already met with Denver. He has the Raiders today. He has upcoming visits with the Falcons and commanders.

And I was also told by multiple sources, Colin, that Pennix had a private workout in Seattle with the Vikings who flew out their entire staff, including the GM Quasi, the head coach KOC. You've talked about Minnesota being a dream landing spot. How about for Michael Pennix? What I'm finding out with Pennix, I talked to somebody last night in the league.

You either really like him or you don't. So if Sean Payton, now maybe he's bluffing, but I don't necessarily think that is a good fit. there are other people that think his ability to throw the ball down the field if you have multiple receivers that can separate. You know, there be Mike McDaniel may look at him and think, oh, that works for me because my quarterback doesn't throw a great deep ball. Tua has limitations. So there are offenses and coaches who like this. It was highly effective, highly effective against everybody the last two years in college football, not named Michigan, but Michigan beat everybody.

So there's definitely a divided room on him, but I think everybody agrees with this. Really good athlete. He can move much better than people think. And a beautiful deep ball thrower, which I think you can teach underneath stuff. You're not going to teach Tua to be bigger and stronger. But it's a divided room on him. There are some that really like him. An executive told me last night.

And there are some that just don't think he's a first round player. Wow. So divided. You're either all in or all in? Like Jaden Daniels, everybody likes him. It's just the fit. Like Jaden Daniels, I talked to the same executive, and that executive said, everybody likes him to a degree. Everybody likes Caleb. You know, they may be turned off by this or that. Nobody says, yeah, he couldn't do that. He can do everything. Jaden Daniels is somebody else that can move a little like Lamar and throws a pretty ball,

and he's tall. A little spindly but tall. So everybody likes Jaden Daniels. It's just some don't need him or it's not, they don't think he's quite ready and would need certain pieces around him. Penix's is depends on... You know I'm in.

I like Daniels too. But I think Pennix is special. I think Pennix gets the ball in a way that's just different. I think he spins it and I think he has the best arm, pure arm, in the draft. Sticking with the NFL, Justin Herbert is entering his first season with new head coach Jim Harbaugh and O.C. Greg Roman.

Harbaugh's teams have always been known for their physicality and new Chargers tied in Hayden Hurst talked about his expectation for Herbert in this offense. He's deadly. I mean, you give him a run game, and he's going to be able to throw it all over the place. I think that's the one thing. You know, outside looking in,

that's the one thing he hasn't had. He's just a consistent run game. I mean, man, we all see what he can do through the air. I mean, you pair up a run game with that. I mean, I think the sky's the limit for this place. Colin, here's what interesting, too, is Greg Roman coached Lamar Jackson pretty well in Baltimore, but the last season wasn't great two years ago. They ended up going with Todd Munkin.

Justin Herbert is one of the most talented players in the NFL. This offense could be deadly, but it could have some time. I mean, they don't have a center. They need two more receivers. They need to get in, they got it back. another back. So the elements are in place if they hit on about four.

If you told me they hit on two receivers, a center, a defensive tackle, and a corner. And by the way, they're going to try to accumulate 10 to 11, 12 picks. Then I would say they're going to win a lot of games. They'll be a 9-10 win team next year. But my guess is generally,

I mean, Houston's kind of the exception. It generally takes in a slight rebate. It's not a rebuild, it's a reboot. they're going to have to hit on draft picks. The good news is Harbaugh should ace the draft. I mean, 90% of the guys they'll draft in the first three rounds, he recruited, or played against or played for him. So they just have to hit. They have two fours.

I think they want to move down and get two ones, two twos. If they can, they'll be good this year because they'll solve. It's a great year for some of the things they need. I totally agree with you, and here's why. I had another GM tell me last night, look who their GM is now, Joe Ortiz, from Baltimore. What does Baltimore do better than anyone? And more than anyone, they trade back. So to your point, the Chargers can accumulate a lot of picks

and probably hit pretty early and be competitive this year. Quickly, what's a good season for the Chargers? Playoffs, eight wins? Ten is a good season. I think 11's realistic. Okay. That'd be really good. Now to the other NFL team right here in Los Angeles.

Cooper Cups' early season hamstring injury help pave the way for Puka and Nakuha to have a historic rookie season. On a recent podcast, Nakua said that the duo, him and Cup, have been working out together this offseason and that Cup is quote on a revenge tour.

Is this the best wide receiver one-two punch in the NFL? No, but it's really close. Jamar Chase T. Higgins, I'd take. It's good. And I, you know, again, would Puka be this good without McVeigh and Stafford? Like, he's good, but I think a lot of

this is, this is something I've talked about with a friend of mine, John Middle Cobb, NFL scout, I've talked about this. If you're a general manager and you have an offensive coach, an Andy Reed, a Shanahan, you can't make everything work. I mean, John Lynch has missed on a couple of third round running backs. Not everything works. But it, for job preservation, basically every running back they have drafted kind of feels like McVeigh get the most out of them. He's done a great job McVeigh has done with offensive linemen, tight ends,

quarterback play, running backs. Wide receiver's been a little hit and miss, but very few busts since he's been there. Alan Robinson didn't work at all. But, you know, my take is with the Rams, just give McVe a lot of draft picks. He'll figure it out.

He kind of figures stuff out. And, you know, Shanahan's career, he elevates every quarterback. I would draft the quarterback almost every year if I ran the 49ers. I would draft the quarter. They all work with Kyle. Running backs, tight ends, almost all work with McVeigh. I mean, Williams, the kid from Notre Dame, I think, was a fourth, fifth round guy.

And there were times last year, you're like, is he the second, third best running back in the league? I mean, if there's four running backs a team in a roster, and there's 120 running backs active in the NFL, and he's the third best thing with the fourth rounder. Some of that's just McVeigh. Yeah, quick story on Puka Nakua. So, Trent McDuffie, the dominant young corner in Kansas City,

already a superstar, told me that when Nakua was at Washington with him, this is three years ago during his pro day, he said, I'm telling you, there's a kid at BYU, not that fast, not that big,

he's going to be a big-time NFL wide receiver. That was Trent McDuffie at his pro day telling me about Pooka Nakuha because I said, Trey, you're going to be a star in the NFL. Everyone knows it.

Who's the best receiver you've seen? And he said, there's just getting to Kua, and he couldn't stop talking about him, and now we saw it. So Pukunakua is just getting started. Yeah. Finally, Colin, this is a fun one. Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight is just,

well, it's fascinating. The 57-year-old Mike Tyson is boxing against YouTuber Jake Paul in July. In an interview this week, Tyson discussed the fight and his upcoming opponent. Oh, I hear this. This is called an exhibition. But if you look up exhibition,

you will not see any of the laws that we're fighting under. This is a fight. I don't think he's faster than me. I've seen a YouTube of him at 16 doing weird dances. That's not the guy I'm going to be fighting. This guy's going to come. He's going to try to hurt me, which I'm accustomed to, and he's going to be greatly mistaken.

You know, I had the great fortune out of college. I was very lucky. I got a job in Las Vegas, worked for a baseball team that ended up getting a TV job, and it was the rise of Mike Tyson. So I went to a lot of top-ranked gym, Johnny Toko's gym in Vegas. I went to a lot of Tyson.

When he had Gus Tomato in really good training and coaching in his corner, I thought he was going to be the greatest fighter of all time, maybe second to Ali. But, you know, things went sideways, and Don King, and he got a little used, and, you know, his personal life. It was a lot. It's a lot.

I mean, he was, it's hard to explain what Tyson was like if you saw him in Las Vegas. He was bigger than Tom Cruise. I saw Tom Cruise in public at the Barbary Coast one time, and people left him alone. It's a restaurant. You saw Tyson in a restaurant. It was insane. And so I think it was just a kind of life that would have been, a lot of people would have gone off the rails. But I'll say this about great athletes.

Brett Farve to the very end, could see. sling it. Sure. Could sling it. Kobe's last game, he got 60. You're not asking Mike Tyson to go on a tour. You know, you two at 75

years old, guys, can you perform one show on Christmas? They'd be great. You know, isn't the Who's still touring? No, who's still doing it? Absolutely. Yeah, like, Mike Tyson for a fight for four rounds, I want no part of.

I mean, I'm just looking at the odds. Jake Paul's minus 360. So that's a massive favorite. Tyson's plus 300. There's a 30-year age gap. I'll tell you this about Jake Paul. Like him, love him, hate him. To get in the ring, the same ring as Mike Tyson, who looks like he's in phenomenal shape,

that seems, that's impressive. I don't care who you talk to. It's crazy to do it. Now, Jake, Jake is 6'5. I think he's 6'3. Okay, he's got a reach advantage. Big reach, Tyson's 5-9. Everybody, Larry Holmes had a reach advantage.

I don't know, I can't get it out of my head. Like, the fact that Paul's the big favor, To me, it's a 30-year age gap. 27-57. That's why. I watched George Foreman. 25 years older, I think, than some of the fighters. It didn't matter. I mean, George Foreman is known for two things.

Big punches. His grill, the George Foreman Grill, and the comeback. His comeback, it felt bigger. I mean, he lost to Ali and Zaire. That was a huge fight. But his comeback felt bigger than his career, and then the George Foreman Grill. But during the comeback, he was fighting, like, kids

and knocking him out. How much does age matter if I'm asked to fight you for three rounds and land two punches? How much do I have to pay you, Colin, to get in the same ring as Mike Tyson? I would never. I'm not a skydive guy. I've got no interest in that. No interest. Like none, zero.

You're not going cage diving with great white sharks. No, not ever going to happen. Live the nice life. Want to keep continuing to live. Jordan with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News.

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The ratings for that, they were getting over, I was told, a million persons watching, which for a brand new league. That's big. That's like an NBA regular season game. And I was talking to a friend about this. I said, if you look at the power, power and the influence of iPhones in America, it is affecting TV ratings. And here's what I mean, is that one of the reasons streaming, everybody's on streaming,

is it's very easy to access from your phone. I watch almost everything streaming on my phone when I'm traveling. I'll watch like three Netflix shows. And it's more consistent than getting a TV to work on a plane. Mine's always out of order and doesn't work. And by the way, many airlines are taking TVs out. So your iPad, your phone. And I was talking about sports with a buddy.

I said, if you look at what is working in ratings. So obviously Caitlin Clark, big ratings. NFL, big ratings. College football, big ratings. World Cup, big ratings. Big UFC 300 in Vegas next weekend. Massive numbers. What's happening because of the iPhone, it's the unintended benefit or consequences of a great invention.

And I told a friend, I said, what isn't working in America because we're all distracted by our phones. What is working is big events and urgency. College football up. NFL up, World Cup, up, UFC crushing. March madness, crushing. Now, a lot of that's Caitlin Clark. But the men's March Madness, and men's college basketball has like one star, Zach Eadie. It's not that talented.

And their numbers are good because it's special. To get us off our phones, you've got to present special. Hockey, regular season ratings, flat forever are going down. Baseball regular season ratings. ESPN announced recently they don't want to go into that they're tired of baseball NBA regular season numbers up down flat they've lost a big audience for years this is just my take is that the phone has changed it you have to create special by the way Fox did a good job of creating special in baseball when that game in Iowa

do you feel the dreams game what gets ratings in baseball the home run derby an event the baseball game in Iowa, the All-Star game, an event. The World Series can get a rating, an event. We are so distracted. Even with streaming, if you look at streaming numbers, people leave streaming big chunks during the football season. They're distracted, right? Oh, I'll get to the streaming when football ends.

I mean, that's my, me and my buddies are all like now, for the next five months, all I do is watch streaming. And so when you look at March Madness, Caitlin Clark explains the women's growth. But the guys' games are getting numbers, and it's not a lot of household names. I mean, Zach Edie is kind of it. But the NC State game,

getting big, big numbers. So it's just interesting when people bang on the NBA, I think it's a problem when you have these long, regular seasons. You have to, and I think Fox Sports went to baseball. This network did. I don't need to get into the weeds on this, but they basically said you're not creating special. You should always have Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Giants,

as much as you can, weekend, or whoever the, you know, Braves, Dodgers, player, Yankees, Red Sox, get those on the weekend, create special, All-Star Special, Home-runs Special. The NFL makes their draft special. It gets a rating. The NFL makes their Combine feel special. Their free agency, the NFL moved it, so it had more freedom, less competition to feel special.

By the way, the NBA on Christmas always felt special. And the NFL said, no, we're going to muddy the waters. We're going to put NFL on Christmas. People have a choice, right? Yeah. So you want to feel special because the iPhone is so distracting that if you don't, if you're just mundane, you're talking about you need casuals in any business. You've got to have, you can't just be like Beyonce is going to do some country music and she got some album out. heard it yet, but it's like she's going to bring in casuals, so it'll probably work.

You don't have to be a diehard country Western fan. I haven't heard it yet. I just read about it this morning. But that's kind of my take on what is happening in our world. The UFL numbers, from what I heard were good. And I'm like, yeah, but there's only like eight, 10 games. So if you want to watch it, you got to watch it now. By the way, the Celtics, I watched this game last night.

I'm traveling today, so I went to bed early. I watched the Celtics. Poor Zingis was great. They beat the Thunder by 35. points. What is interesting about Boston is that, and I think the really great teams, they don't have a ring yet. So once teams, like the Warriors got a ring and the Spurs and Shaq and Kobe, once they get the trophy, the regular season just means less. It's human nature. You know, Shaq and Kobe before the, oh, but then all of a sudden, like the Spurs with Duncan, weren't a number

one seed. And so the Celtics are the classic example of their good enough to win a title, but they don't have the trophy yet, and they are just flying through the regular season. It's Derek Rose's Bulls. Oh, the regular, every game felt like it mattered. Then once you've got a trophy, you pick your spots. Boston's not picking much spots right now. They're just clobbering people.

What is interesting, the Lakers are the best clutch team in the NBA, clutch time games. They're 23 and 9. So, Lakers are another team that picks their spots. Now, right now they have to win games because, you know, got some momentum they need. Boston doesn't for the playoffs. But it's interesting about that is basketball to me has always been a unique sport

where you can kind of flip a switch. Yukon last year was fourth in the Big East and flew through the tournament. I mean, Yukon this year had some close games in the Big East. They are flying through the tournament. They flip a switch. And so I don't necessarily look at the Denver Nuggets. I don't care what their seating is. I don't really care what the Lakers seating is.

And frankly, I don't care what the Celtic seating is. I think what Boston is is the classic, really good NBA team without a ring. If Boston won the title this year, I guarantee you, their margin of victory would go down next year, their point differential would go down, and their record would go down because they would rest people. So Denver's in that space a little bit where you got Oklahoma City charging and Minnesota was charged. Denver's got the trophy. Denver wants to make sure Yokic is rested Gordon's got his legs for playing defense

Jamal Murray is healthy so as I watched Boston last night I'm like what's fascinating about him is they have as many losses as they do they have as many 20 point wins against the East as they do losses all year against the East

if just blown through the East can't beat Denver one and one against the Lakers so my question is if they blow through the playoffs, as they've blown through the east, what's it going to be like when they get in five, six close games with Denver or the Lakers? Because the Lakers had been on fire since January. They were ninth in the West in January.

They've won eight of nine, eight of ten. They're still ninth because it's the West. You're just in more close games. So, I mean, the Lakers are 11 games about 500. They're still not separating. I mean, they'll get into the playing game. I think they're built for the, I think they're very much built for a singular game with LeBron's age. But Jalen Brown on hitting the 60 win mark as they head to the postseason.

It's an honor. It's a blessing to be on a 61 team. It's a lot of hard work that went into that, especially after, you know, coming up short last season, you know, responding, coming back and not skipping any step. So I think we're on track. 60 wins. When the playoff start is bad. to square one.

I think Philadelphia is interesting with Boston. They won't beat him, but it's interesting. I'm not sure if Milwaukee is. I can see some athleticism and length with Philly matching up against Boston. I don't think Milwaukee, I don't think Milwaukee. I think Boston in the West would be in several five and six games series. Maybe a seven gamer with Denver Lakers.

I kind of think they're going to fly through it. In fact, I think Philadelphia is the one team that I think could give problems. Jalen Brown got paid over $300 million. dollars. Everyone said this is crazy. He's had a better year. I would argue that he's not better than Jason Tatum, but you could say he's more important

because he guards everyone. His handle's gotten better. He makes big shots. He's also very aggressive. There are times you watch them play that he's almost demanding the ball more than Tatum. And that's where I was going to go is I do give Tatum credit

because he's finally, he's comfortable enough in his own skin to defer to Jalen Brown some knights in some big possessions. And that's the beauty of that one too. Yeah, there's only two absolute truths when it comes to duos in the East. Bam and Butler works. Sure.

Brown and Butler works. I like Maxie and Embed, but at this point, I'm not sure if MB is going to be in great shape for the playoffs. I think Dame and Janice are individually great, but I got to see him in the playoffs. This is one thing about the NBA. And again, it's just part of it. In baseball, you know, if a pitcher's going out, he didn't want to get shelled. You get his best effort.

If a batterer's going to the plate, he's got bonuses. He doesn't want to get embarrassed. So in baseball, the dynamic between pitcher and hitter, guys don't mail it in. In hockey, you can't mail it in. You have to have your head in a swivel. You'll get hurt. In football, it's one game a week. You can't mail it in.

You get into basketball and the sport, these guys are so gifted, you understand why the playoffs feel different. I'm not just defending the NBA, but baseball, nobody goes to the plate thinking, I want to look like an idiot. You got money tied to that at bat. Pitchers, ERAs, again, every batter counts. So nobody's mailing it in baseball, and you can't in hockey or football. But in basketball, you know, it's, Hammy's a little sore tonight. Like, if you're the Celtics or a top team, you just want to be rested for the postseason. But what I love about playoff basketball, In college basketball, you get a truer effort every game. Regular season, March Madness.

Playoff basketball looks different. It is a different sport. It looks different. Guys are way more physical. The refs seeing that back off on the whistle. That's why it benefits older, stronger players. The young guys don't get the whistle. The older, stronger players do in April, May, and June.

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