The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 – Luka Doncic, Teron Armstead

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Colin talks about Luka Doncic’s defensive problems & his conditioning issues, Dolphins OT Teron Armstead joins the show, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They thought he was lazy. He played no defense. He wasn't in shape. And he kept having a reoccurring calf injury, which they connected to his lack of conditioning. Also, beer drinker, European, like the SIGS, doesn't work hard in the off season. Huka, whatever. The point being is, what I'm about to say, I believe, is that moving to L.A., he'll get in better shape. Now, I'll get into that in a second.

But there's a story this morning that Luca, Dallas called the T-Wolves, and said, we'll trade you, you give us, aunt, we'll give you Luca. And the T-Wolf said, no, thanks. Now, I would not trade Luca for Ant. I think Ant is younger. He's in much better shape. He's a much better athlete. He's a much better defender.

I've said this before. And I'm on record saying this. I think Luca's a better Carmelo Anthony. I don't necessarily think he always makes teammates better. I never think he's in great shape. And he's a below average defender. He's an all-time gifted offensive player. But I wouldn't trade.

If I was Minnesota, I wouldn't give up Ant. Ant's younger, better shape, better defender. I think he's not as naturally, effortlessly. I mean, the way Ants shooting threes this year, it's like, damn, he's not that far behind Lucas shooting threes. But it's funny when I watch Luca play, all the criticisms that the Mavs had about Luca, let's be honest. They're on display. He's a terrible defender. He doesn't have the energy of 40-year-old LeBron.

He's not close to 40-year-old LeBron as a defender. Now, I would have, I'm the Lakers. I still would have moved AD out. But if AD was healthy with Kyrie Irving, there's an argument. That is a great fit because Kyrie and Luca did not defend. AD's a remarkable defender. So in a way, Dallas is getting beat up because AD's not healthy and lively is not available. Dallas are really good basketball team and a much better defensive team now that Luke has gone.

The Lakers now are a much better offensive team. And I think Lucas is great. but we were talking about this I have because of you know I've chased commerce I've lived in Connecticut I spent a lot of time in Rhode Island

I spent a lot of time in Chicago I lived in Vegas Los Angeles Tampa Los Angeles a 50 year old man in Los Angeles is in better shape and looks better than a 50 year old man in Chicago

we got a beach and we got mountains and the weather's always good and people hike and go to the beach in January like that's It's just what they do. In most American cities, even in Phoenix in the summer, it's too hot to go outside. You can go outside every day of the year in Los Angeles.

You can golf almost every day of the year. You can hike every day of the year. You can go to the beach all but about 30 days of the year. And there's just a weird thing about Los Angeles. It's a very competitive place in terms of being in shape. Like the women compete against the women, the men compete against the men. It's a real thing. Anthony Davis was never in better shape than when he came to Los Angeles.

after about three years, he got into the lifestyle, and he was in great shape. He was not when he came here. He was always hurt. They used to make fun of the dad, bod. It was in New Orleans. He was in the South. The food's different.

And, you know, in the summer, you're not going to go outside much. So this is about Luca. As I look at Luca and I watch him, you know, Dallas had their concerns, but the Minnesota Timberwolves were like, we're not trading ant for Luca. like the criticisms of Luca are on display. He cannot defend.

He is not in good shape. Now, I think you'll get there. I understand his inactivity is a big part of this. But, I mean, the players that Luca guarded last night shot 55%. Terrant Shannon, a junior, was three of four when guarded by Luca and went for a career high 25.

So there's a little Carmelo Anthony here. where you're getting an all-time naturally gifted player, but the cardio and the defensive concerns, they're on display. Even if he got significantly better, he's not graded either. Let's just be honest about it. Okay, so Steph Curry last night, he hadn't done this in a long time, but it was an all. Here is his 12th 3 last night from NBC Sports Bay Area.

the lane lost the handle. Curry to beat the buzzer for three. And Steph Curry is one of those athletes. And I think you see it sometimes in baseball. If somebody throws a no-hitter, like I think if you're on the road and you throw a no-hitter, like the opposing crowd, you know, gives you a standing O. It's like you did a great job.

We can acknowledge it. Maybe not if it's a playoff game, but in most instances, everybody acknowledges. You may not have loved tie. But if Tiger hits the clincher at the Masters, you're sitting there live in the gallery watching a historic moment. Like last night, Steph pointed this out after the game. The Orlando fans were enjoying the hell out of this performance. I'm just blessed, like I always say, play this game, enjoy the competition, the creativity.

And it's grown over the years where you can thrive off of a road crowd, which is pretty insane. with every gray hair that pops up on top of your head, you can get to appreciate moments and milestones like this. So very, very special. Yeah, LeBron and Curry, incredible nights. So I want to go back to the Luca thing. And I would have made the deal, too, if I was the Lakers, absolutely would have made the deal.

I think they stole him. But would you acknowledge, J. Mack? Would you acknowledge? Because there's two players in the NBA that you loved, because you're a bit of a gunner who doesn't defend. But there's two players in the NBA that you loved, and I thought were great. But I never thought Tatum was a top three player. When Marcus Smart was taking the ball from him and they had to get Marcus Smart out of town,

you don't have to trade people because they're taking it away from Kobe or MJ. So I like Tatum a lot. I think he's a top 10 player. I was never as hot. My take on Luca was he's a much better Carmelo. But when you watch him and you watch LeBron's energy, can you acknowledge, now that he should, should, even with his inactivity,

he should be better than he is right now. All right, it's Friday, right? I know you have a big weekend plan. I don't want to send you off to the weekend in a bad mood, but this Luca is Carmelo Anthony nonsense? Better. It's got to stop. Luca's like top 10 in the league and assists every year.

Carmelo Anthony was allergic to passing. Literally, he would like break out and hides if he had to pass the basketball. That's why he didn't like Jeremy Lynn. I don't want to pass to this guy. get him out of town. Luca makes everyone on his team better. He carried the Mavs to the finals last year. Carmelo couldn't carry a team anywhere.

No, I said. Syracuse, that's it. But defense and being in elite shape, both are very similar. And they're both brilliant, naturally gifted at 19 years old. Mello at Syracuse and Luke in the NBA were 10 years ahead of players. I mean, they were literally... You know who else is not in shape? Patrick Mahomes and his dad bod.

Dwight Howard at the height. of his powers in the NBA was eating crap candy like you and I eat. Remember, he would eat skittles and all that crap? Like, just don't, you're going overboard on Luca, man. He's going through a tough stretch with a new team, a new city. You know, I know he's talking to real estate agents, looking at some real estate out here in L.A. Like, by the beach. He's got a lot.

Stop. He's got a lot going on, Colin. Let's give him a break. He's coming off the injury. I think he's great. And I said this the other day, I think his ability to pass the ball up the floor. it's not in the half court stuff his ability to get the rebound and get it up the floor it's very yokech he's got magic johnson vision yeah no he finds guys over the head over the yeah it's ridiculous i'm not denying that i'm just saying

minnesota got a call and they're like no way we're not giving up aunt and i believe most NBA diehards think luca's better than ant and minnesota was like no thank you lucca better than anne i think lucca's i don't think there's any debate there okay so that the edwards is awesome but i love him he's one of my top like Okay, but Minnesota was like, no. Because people tell you who they are. Well, Luke, you think Luke is going to stay in Minnesota if they traded in there? Well, I don't. He's definitely not staying there.

I don't even know if Anthony Edwards will stay there. And hey, by the way, somebody just sent me something on the Steph Curry Flurry that you talked about earlier. So last night, Charles Barkley, when they were showing the Curry 12-3s, he goes, oh, this is a fluke. That's the kind of hate I'm talking about. No, and it's not made up. There's no AI. Brooklyn's like, oh, there's a fluke. Curry has, according to the NBA account,

the most games with nine or more threes in NBA history by like a mile. He has like 45. Well, he's the greatest shooter in league history. And he's calling it a fluke. Like, what are you doing, Charles? That's not funny. That's stupid.

Well, I think he's poking people in the ribs. I think without question, there are certain things that are true. Kareem had the most unstoppable shot in league history. Steph Curry's the greatest shooter in NBA history. and Michael Jordan is the most relentless offensive player in league history. Yeah. Michael could have averaged 45 a game easily if he wanted to. He was unstoppable offensively.

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went to the Dolphins, one of the great multi-left tackles, pass-blocking, run-blocking in the NFL for a long time, could play, still available, we'll get into that in a second. This guy's full of personality. You know, what's always interesting, I'm fascinated by this. How in the hell did you end up being overlooked by SEC teams? It didn't take you very long to be good in the NFL. You went to Arkansas Pine Blah. I do.

I know where Arkansas. is. I don't know where the pine or the bluff is at. Why? Were you a late bloomer? I think my area was just overlooked. My high school was behind the times as far as exposure. Okay. Putting

the eyes on guys and getting the tape to where it was available. You know, I was still VHS, a lot of static. Well, Josh Allen. Same thing. Oh, really? I mean, literally didn't get a single college offer. Oh, wow. Played out in the sticks in Northern California. Okay. Well, same

situation. Yeah. So if you were watching my film, you would have to kind of figure out which of those dots were me. And we liked that guy. And it didn't happen for me. Did you know, did you go to the Combine? I did. Okay. When did you know I'm better than that guy?

I'm better than that guy. Like, when did you know I'm going to play in this league? I wouldn't say the Combine was that situation for me. Combine helped me get more eyes and more exposure. I have broke the 40-yard dash record for the offensive alignment, ran 465 too.

Wow. Look at that. Yeah, so that just helped me get my name out and got more people to watch my film. My college film had some static too, but it was more DVD. It wasn't VHS no more. So it's hard to see that too. But combat helped me tremendously. But as far as like which guy that I feel like I could play against where I'm better than, never really been my thing.

I went to the East West Shrine game and then got invited to the senior ball the next week. So those two weeks were probably the most revealing for me as far as level of talent. Because I kept hearing that through the process. Your level of talent that you played against is going to be different than the SEC guys. So first one-on-one, I'll tell you a quick story. First one-on-one at the senior ball, I got there late. I line up. It's a DM from Georgia.

I don't remember his name. And I'm like, this is my moment. I jump set him through his ass five yards and jumped on him, everything. Like I blacked out. And that was my, like, right then and there was my moment of, you can do this. You can play at this level. I love stories like that. I love that stuff.

The, you know, it's funny, we were talking during the break. I love Sean Payton. Sean Payton, FaceTime me last night in Indy. And you played for him for years. And he is very blunt. For sure. He and Russell Wilson, Russell's Mr. Optimism, Sean's Mr. Authentic honesty. Like, it clashed.

Yeah. You didn't like Sean Early. I didn't. I didn't like him at all. My first three, four years. But I appreciated him. Like, I appreciated his coaching style. He was very direct.

He was very aggressive. But he wasn't personal at all. Like, I couldn't say nothing to him. Couldn't make a suggestion or opinion or anything. Only time he talked to you was if you messed up. That was it. Like, he was not a pat-on-a-back guy at all. So as a young player coming from Arkansas Pine Blub, I was looking for a little, you know what I mean, a little something.

Yes. But everything that he taught me in those first four years, it stuck with me and it taught me what's important. Doing your job, execution, play after play, game after game. I couldn't. I can't thank the man enough. And then later on, my last five years together, we became best friends. And I love him to death. the stories that he has and the moments that we've shared together.

He went the extra mile for me. 2020 during COVID, my brother passed away, and we couldn't travel. So, you know, it was looking like I wouldn't be able to go to the funeral. And I'm like, I'm driving if that's the case. But it's middle of the week. And Sean called me to his office. And he's like, Mrs. Benson, I told her the situation. We're taking her plane.

We're going to the funeral. I'm like, what you mean? Wait. He's like, I'm coming with you. And he came up to my home. hometown. Me, him, Dan Rochard, he just signed with the Bears as the Oline coach, Alma Camara, and Latavius Murray. And we all went to the funeral together, and Sean was amongst the people, and he helped my family, like, genuinely, had people laughing and smiling at really the toughest

time of our lives. So forever, forever grateful for that man. By the way, somebody said on the staff, they said, hey, Tehran is going to give you crap about Steph Curry, who dropped 56 last night. What are you going to say to me? I was very complimentary today of Steph Curry. Yeah, no, so now that you mentioned it. And it's about eight years ago that you said this. Eight years ago? Yeah, I've been holding on today.

I've been waiting for you. Yeah, so. Eight years? I honestly don't even remember what you said. I just know at the moment I didn't like it. Didn't like it one bit. What I say? It was, is he, can he win a championship?

You know, by itself, he doesn't need X, swine zita do it was it was something crazy just just outrageous and it just bothered you it bothered me so bad but you know what it's funny about step curry he goes to davidson so none of us watch him small school

you and him have something in common he has ankle issues ankle issues he's not very good defensively at all my ankles my ankles is pretty good I heard everything else but ankles were good but he was he had to develop into something yeah I know what you mean and there

There were talk. They were going to keep Monta Ellis and move him. Like, that was Jerry West is like, we're not doing that. I think it was Jerry West or somebody in the organization. And the truth is, is that I do think the jet fuel to players like you and Curry, and I've said this about this year's quarterback draft. They're all getting crushed. This is them all.

That's a fact. And what makes Curry so great is that he just, he just always works at his craft. And I think sometimes, and I see this a little with Luca, Luca was so good at 16, beating European men. He's still not in good shape. Like, the harder things are to attain, the more it fuels you for the rest of your life.

Steph Curry will be competitive golfing at 74. That's a fact. Because of Davidson. That's a fact. And go into your life. The fact you were doubted, even today, Yeah. Does it tick you? Because you were, I think you were graded top four, third best, top three tackle last year. Yeah. Does it still drive you crazy? Do you feel disrespected by that?

I do. I do. And that, that's what drew me to Steph Curry. Like to be, to become a fan of Steph Curry is all the noise. And for him to use it as fuel and to work, like to work, to work, to work, to become what he has become. I took the same approach. I had to work over time to. to go from Arkansas Pine Bluff and be a small school guy, underachiever, all those things, whatever, to be a five-time pro bowler, all-pro, you know what I mean? And it's still, like you say to this day, third-rate tackle this year, whatever, whose grades or metrics.

But I just always got to prove myself. And I'm okay with that because I love the grind. I love the work. I love getting better. I love the progression. It's just a part of who I am. So I've said this before. NFL's obviously rewarding financially offensive players over defensive players, but I've said

there's a handful of defensive players in my life. Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald, they're just different. Miles Garrett is pretty close to that. And my argument is if you give him a winning environment, he'll play even better. LeBron looks better now that Luke is there. For sure. I mean, staff's playing better. Jimmy Butler's there. It's like they're showing off. It's like, everybody's watching my games now. How many times have you faced Miles Garrett, And physically, he should have more body fat at that size. Is he a tough matchup even for you?

Yeah, yeah, I've played them three times. I would say, I think we played the first time in 2018. That is a top three one-on-one O-Line versus D-Line battle. I went and watched it again probably two months ago. It's a dog fight. I won. I did. I'm going to just put that out.

I won. But if you go back and watch that game, I got no help. He got no help. He lined up here. I lined up here and we went at it for the entire game. 2018, go watch that. So the next day when you wake up, be honest with me.

Right. Is it hard to get out of bed? When you play somebody at that level. For sure. For sure. You get a physical dog fight like that. Somebody that's like really, it's like a train wreck. For sure.

It says you feel every part of it. Your neck, back, shoulders, for sure. No question about it. By the way, Matt Stafford just reached an agreement. with the Rams. Oh, wow. What we got? The Raiders came after him, but it was interesting. According to Diana Rusini, the Raiders only offered two years, which is what the Rams are offering. So the trade speculation talk is done. The first significant off-season quarterback

domino has fallen. The Rams and Stafford, according to Adam Schaefter, have reached an agreement on a restructured deal. My guess is two years. I'm not sure about the money. Stafford's pretty unique. You know what I always appreciate about Stafford? A lot of these older quarterbacks don't want to get hit. Yeah. Matt will sit in there. Fairless. To the last half second.

Fearless. You've hit him a few times. I mean, you've, you've, you hit him. You've been in games against Stafford. Yep. Are there, is there a secret code the quarterbacks? Like Breeze was a smaller quarterback. For sure.

As he got older, tell me what it's like to protect, like Tua. Right. We got concussions. He don't want to get hit. Do you feel a responsibility because of Tua's concussions? Does that add pressure to you? It's pressure playing that position anyway, being the front line.

I've had two smaller quarterbacks in my career, Drew Brees and Tua. Those have been your guys. Those have been my guys. By the way, Tua, Breeze is Tua's calm. For sure, for sure. And for good reason, too, is not for nothing. He is that from that claw. So the stressful part, and it's real,

stress. Like it's anxiety that goes on in pass protection. That's like the worst thing in the world is to get your quarterback hit to me. So if I give up a sack like no matter how I'll play for the rest of the game, it doesn't matter. My day is ruined. It's ruined. I get the quarterback hit. You only gave up three last year. I don't think two of those are on me. So we got to go back and watch the film. Yeah, that's a lot of factors goes into that. Is there a guy in the league that gave you more trouble and he wasn't a high draft pick? You know, we've always said this. There are guys in the NBA.

They have maybe a weird body or whatever. But if you ask players, are like, I mean, I remember Dominique Wilkins telling me, he goes, I love playing MJ. Right. I did not sleep playing Bernard King. Right. Because Bernard could just say, I'm scoring 54 tonight. He goes, I couldn't stop him. He goes, I hated playing him.

Is there a guy in the league that you're like, because Max Crosby talks a lot of trash? He does. And he's a fourth, I think he's a fourth rounder. Is there a guy in the league that you, maybe? not sleep quite as well the night before no I I would say I feel the same way as as Dominique like I would rather block mouse Garrett and Max Crosby wow I would I would it's the it's the guy that just got elevated off practice squad I'm terrified of him I'm scared to death he is he's in a stance he got his his

leg is shaking god damn he's about to rush with everything's in his being intimidating no no the scout who you talk who's the practice squad guy that's that just got elevated this week. They told him on Wednesday, hey, you're going to play this week. You might not get me. I'm fearful. Yeah, I don't want to see him. Give me Max. Give me Miles Garrett. Yeah. With that practice school, I got it just called up.

I don't want no smoke with that young man. He's got nothing but energy. Nothing but energy. He's going to run through my face, my ass, over and over. And I throw him to the ground, but I'm like supposed to. So it's like, you know what I mean? He's going to get up and do it again. I don't want to see him. You've made your money. you can retire today, but you play outside of quarterback the most important position in the sport.

If a good team called you up and said, dude, two years, would you go play? I'm on a good team, so no. So you're not going to play? I'm on a good team already. Well, I know, but I mean. So nobody else can call me. This is it. Yeah, Dolphins only, yeah.

And that's it? That's it. But you're kind of pausing. I'm not. I think his natural pause is in a conversation. You know what I mean? That's funny. So what do you do now?

How old are you? 33. Okay, you got some money. You've had an uninsible career. Yeah. What is an end? Because most people retire, I'm 60 and still working. The average person in America,

you're 65, 66. You're 33 and can wrap it up. What do you do? I weigh my options, right? I feel like being in the league for so long, having a successful career and I've done well financially, it gives me cushion and room to make a decision like this and to see if I want to continue to go out and compete in pursuit of a championship. That's the goal, like that, honestly, honestly speaking, that is, that's the goal.

So it's a lot of factors that goes into that. A lot of health for sure, but then kids, my kids getting older, my twin girls. us about to be teenagers. Pray for me, please. So those type of things are factors, for sure. The dolphins have been incredible and graceful, allowing me this time. I know you've seen the contract restructure that we just came to. It worked well for all parties. It allowed me a little bit more time to think

and allow them to do whatever they need to do necessary to improve the team. It made you an offer. The dolphins have. You said restructure it. Yeah, we restructure it. You haven't signed it. Not physically. Are you going to?

Yeah. Again, you're pausing. What does that mean? You're pausing when I asked you, are you going to sign the contract? What the restructure is, is like, I took my projected salary down to minimum. Okay.

So it allows the dolphins to do with the new space, cap space, to do whatever they need to do to improve the team. It allows me the time to make a decision, whether I want to keep playing or not. So if I decide, hey, we're doing this. I'm locking in, let's go. Then we have another conversation.

Okay, Matt Stafford broke news. You could do it right after. I could. I want to let Matt have his day. Who would I be to take his shine? And then they're only talking about me today, you know? All right. You know, you've had Sean Payton's intensity as a coach.

Yeah. Dan Campbell's almost, he's a player who coaches. And now you've got this wizard, this like MIT, Mike McDaniel. Be honest about Mike McDaniel. First time you saw him, did you say, he's going to stand in front of us? He's a little different, right?

No, not at all. Not at all. My first time I saw him, I was on a visit. So it was one-on-one. And he just came in. He came in with energy, man. He was excited. He had just got there three, four days before.

You know what I mean? So he didn't know where his pens and paper was in. Yeah, he is for sure. He's different. different but that's okay because he's is it's genuinely him and that's what i appreciate it's not a fron is not an act is it's him and you spend time with him you'll see that and you have a deeper appreciation for him turan armstead you know you're always welcome appreciate it you can always come by the show um you come to my show too i don't have one yet but one day when i do you

let me tell you so free to come through this is a dead end career there's no reason to do this You hang out with your beautiful twin daughters. Are they athletes? What are they? Yeah, basketball players. Best sixth grade team in the country, going to A, U nationals again. Yeah, back to back.

We're doing it. What do you weigh right now, by the way? That's personal. What do you weigh? About $285. What do you play at? $2.98, 300. Dude, that's a light tackle.

For you to be that good at that weight? Appreciate it. Strong. Oh. This is a weird question. If I said max reps bench, what do you bench? This is a weird question. What's bench?

Huh? I'm not benching no more. You don't bench? No, not Max refs, no. No. You're just doing light stuff trying to keep tone. Yeah, I get what I need to get in. A lot of Pilates and stuff like that really much.

How about that? Core strength. How about that? Yeah, so when I grab them, it's, yeah, no getting away. Okay, Matt Stafford is signed with the Rams. We'll say it again. Congrats, Matt. Yeah, that's, that's, so we said we thought the Raiders were in play, but in the end, the Rams wanted that first Raiders pick and probably a second, and the Raiders said, that's a little bit too much. So Stafford, whose legacy, again, if you give him a second Super Bowl, that's Elway, that's Peyton Manning, that's Big Ben. Don't forget how a quarterback's career ends, goes a long way in forming that legacy. Right now, Stafford's considered great. He becomes an all-time great with a second Super Bowl, and the Rams are in that.

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Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.

But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a, potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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The first stop on the road to the Indy 500, Sunday at noon Eastern live on Fox. And one of the top drivers, Scott McLaughlin, is on the facility this morning and had some fun with Shady McCoy. Take a listen. I just need to know this, man. And tell me the truth. Don't lie to me, all right? Because I got a lot of confidence, like you're confident. And I got a Bentley, right?

My Bentley go 200 plus on a dash, all right? Do I have a chance? You've got zero chance, my man. I'm sorry, there's just no way. I'm happy you come around. You come be a passenger, come enjoy it, come watch the race. But, yeah, you'll never drive as fast as me, bro. I've been, by the way, Fox this year had the Super Bowl, the Indy 500, the Daytona 500, and the World Series.

And if you've ever stood next to an Indy car, you cannot believe how fast they are. And they're on the ground. They're so low to the ground. It is like nothing you've ever seen. It's an incredible experience live. Nothing like it. All right. Okay.

By the way, Matt Stafford is re-signed with the Rams. I thought the Raiders had a real shot. according to Schefter, the New York Giants, now that they're out of the Matt Stafford race, are considering other veteran quarterback options, including Aaron Rogers. I don't know how I feel about that. Aaron, I think he bought a place over in Hoboken

or something on the hill overlooking the city, I think, if our memory serves me correctly. So the Rams, listen, you know what it tells me? It tells me, if possible, the Rams will take a left tackle with their first pick. They don't want to pay a left tackle and Stafford and Cooper Cup. They've tried to move off Cooper Cup that put the name out there. So that means they're paying Stafford big boy money.

I don't know what the number is. My guess it's around $50 million for two years. I'm guessing. I have no idea. But that does tell me in the draft, they have to address, they've got to go get a starting tackle. Because Havenstein right tackle makes good money getting near the end. The left tackle, I think I,

I think he's a free agent. Yes. Yeah. So they want to restart the clock on left tackle because they're paying cop, they're paying Stafford, they're paying Havenstein, they're paying their tied end. They're paying nobody on defense. But I think this tells you they're going to go if they can left tackle in the first round of the draft.

And at the end of the first round, Josh Connerley from Oregon, there's a kid from Minnesota we talked about yesterday. So there's a couple of good OTs. There's not a great left tackle in this draft. But mid-late first round, that kid out of Oregon's getting better every year. year they got a shot but that's what that tells me that offensive tackle with Matt's new deal is going to become a priority yeah the problem now becomes what do you do if you're the giants and the raiders they had you know they were all in on staffer they tried he stayed with the rams

now you got uh Brian dable fighting for his job in new york do you make a play for Aaron Rogers like do you have me come cross town quarterback us I don't know that they're good their offensive line is a dumpster fire right now and what do the raiders do Colin like Pete carroll new on the job. You're not getting Shadour. He's not falling to 6. He's going to go 2. It's going to be Cam Ward and Shador at the top. And a lot of teams now does Sam Darnold get paid by somebody because

there's just not many options. No, no. The Domino falling. This is not a bad day for Aaron Rogers and Sam Darnold. Not bad at all. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. A little more breaking news in the NFL.

If you remember, the Giants had a debacle letting Seekwan walk in free agency to the Eagles, and that was all televised. Well, now the NFL could not find a team to do hard knocks off season. So they went to a guy with a lot of NFL experience. Bill Belichick. So Bill Belichick and the North Carolina Tar Heels will be featured on hard knocks off season. This is a genius move by Belichick.

It's a massive recruiting tool, right, to have a college football program on HBO. Televised, you know it's going to get a lot of media coverage. I think this is smart by Belichick. showing now that there's a different side to Bill. He's not the old grumpy guy with the hoodie in the holes. He's a new dude. I think this is a home run for him. You know, it's really interesting.

Bill had a comment. It was about two months ago, how he was, he talked about ownership in the NFL. And there are too many owners now, too many billionaires. And you don't really have control of the football operation. And the one thing you do as a college coach, you have control of the football operation. And I think it shows us that Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells may have been different people. But the one thing, the line that neither one wants to cross is Parcells left Dallas and New England when he didn't feel he had control.

Right? And that is, and I look at that, right? And I think Belichick has shown you with this college thing, letting HBO in tells you, I'm here for a couple years. I'm sure his girlfriend will be the star of the show. But needless to say, I think it does make me, it makes me harken back to that three month ago comment, where as the league's owners have gotten richer and more impulsive and more meddling, Bill just doesn't feel like when he only got one team to look at him

he may have just said the hell with the NFL like I just don't want to be there anymore that's what it makes me feel like doing this show like he's making he's in for this thing so you like just imagine this scenario the AD at North Carolina whoever he is

is upset with Belichick over $2 million on some player can you imagine that conversation the AD going to a Bill Bill we're over budget here Belichick's going to look at it be like I make triple your salary I don't want to hear it HBO's on campus.

Be quiet. Stay in your place. I'm going to run the football board. Nobody's telling Belichick what to do in North Carolina, right? Nobody. But Kraft, remember he famously said, you've got to trade Garoppolo because, you know, Brady wants to be here for the long haul.

And Belichick was, like, upset with that. Power and control is very important. Bill Belichick has all of it right now, Colin. Next up is Steph Curry's masterclass last night. What a performance. 12-3s on his way to 56 points. Warriors are nothing. their win since acquiring Jimmy Butler.

Steff's been huge, obviously. But Jimmy Butler as well, listen to Jamal Mosley, the Orlando coach. Talk about Steph Curry. The man had 56 points. There is no aside from Steph. He had 56. You got to love that. 56 points, Colin.

And they were like, well, what else was going on? Steph Curry, now most 50-point games after turning 35 or older. Now, Jalen Suggs did not play, who's a very good defender for Orlando. He did not play. That helps. In Orlando's a good defensive team, but Suggs is a, he is a defensive baller. He's intense. You know that's my guy. If Curry wants to go for 50, he's going to get 50. Okay. Nobody can stop him. Like Suggs is a great defender.

I guess the real question, Colin, do you think they're back in the championship discussion? Are they on the fringe? Like your Super Bowl bubble. If you had an NBA finals bubble, championship bubble. Okay, that's good. Would the Warriors be in there or on the fringe? If I had an NBA championship bubble. So my NFL bubble is usually about seven teams. I would say Celtics,

Cavs, OKC, Lakers, Nuggets. Nuggets. NICs? I don't, I don't think the Knicks. I think the Knicks in the West would be even more exposed defensively. Bucks? No. I think the Warriors are one of those teams in the Super Bowl bubble

that I put just on the outside. I don't know. if offensively, they can keep up with a Lakers, Austin, Rui, LeBron. I mean, the Lakers right now played poorly on offense last night and still dropped what they dropped. I still, I think Jimmy Butler helps, but I think they can still be very step-dependent on their best nights. But they're close.

Steph Curry, tremendous night. Final story, Colin, is last hour we talked about Cammer. Ward this hour. Let's talk about Sodor Sanders. He met with the media yesterday and said he doesn't understand how people are evaluating. When people say I'm not, you know, one of the top quarterbacks or the top quarterback is what are y'all going based off of it? Because I did it year, year after year after year, then you see the progression. So obviously it got to be some type of external hate that you have for the family, for the last name, for anything, because I know I proved myself on the field.

Yeah, I think people like him, actually. I think one of the strengths he has is people think he's a good kid. They like him. I think also, never forget, when Andrew Luck, remember a week before the draft, everybody was like, I don't know if Andrew Luck's got a good arm. We nitpicked these guys to death. Like, Shadour is an NFL starting quarterback. How great he is, I don't know.

You have had one, I would say one of your most famous takes on the herd has to do with backwards hats at podiums. I know it's usually reserved for quarterbacks and a certain. certain day, does that Shador video right there, reply? Because that was a backwards hat at the Combine. I'm not, I'm not really freaking me out yet.

Let me look at it. Can we show it again? I'm not a backwards hat guy for quarterbacks. I could barely see the hat because the necklace was so glistening. I don't love it. But the Combine is just, you're in street clothes and I don't, you know, it's not, you're not representing anybody. He doesn't even play. Microsoft

Add in the background. Well, I mean, seriously, he doesn't play for Colorado. He doesn't play for an NFL team. He doesn't have an employer. So who is he representing? He's signaling to your employers. This is how I am. Well, he doesn't have an employer. I'm more concerned that I am sitting in front of Bank of America,

Philadelphia Eagles Wednesday, representing the organization. I don't like that look. This kid doesn't have an employer right now. Correct. Do you remember the first time I met you? What if I had rolled up, jacket open, backwards hat, necklace like that? What would be the first impression? No, I'll tell you right now.

I would not have hired you. Because if that was a job interview, and that's how you rolled up, this is not, I guess you could argue it's a little bit of a job interview. Combine is certainly a job. I don't love it. I don't love it. And I'm not, listen, I don't want to be saying I'm critical. I'm just trying to get you to your place where you bashed him.

No, I'm not bashing him. I don't love it. I bet you Dion calls him. And says, hey, turn that hat around. Interesting. What's your relationship like with Dion, by the way? I don't have one. Okay.

Yeah. I told you last time I interviewed, to be hung up on me after like four questions, right? Maybe like 10 years ago. Well, what did you ask? Well, of course, I'm going to ask tough questions. That's what I do. You are a journalist. The show, this show only asks tough questions.

There's no layups. There's no layup drill on this show. Tehran Armstead was sweating during some of that interview. Well, he won't commit if he's staying or playing. So I wanted to break news on the show if I kept pressing it. That was clear. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we are newsbreakers.

Bastion of journalism. Yeah. CNN watches us for tips on journalism. A J. Mack with a news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Matt Safford is a ram.

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