The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - More on Shohei Ohtani

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

Looking at the possible NFL 1st round draft selections Colin believes Shohei Ohtani is telling the truth and people are overreacting   Guest: Eric ManginiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the hurt. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Eric Mangini in a couple of minutes. Chris Broussard next hour. Huge, huge, Laker win over Milwaukee. Milwaukee's been playing 10 of their last 11 games.

have been against like either playing teams or playoff team. Milwaukee looked tired at the end of the game. They don't have a lot left in the tank, and they're not real athletic anyway. So, you know, Lakers got really good shots. But I will say this, and I said it at the top of last hour. Anthony Davis, two years ago, I'd have moved him and traded him. He just wouldn't take the baton.

LeBron kept handing him to be the best player on the team. He is officially, right now Anthony Davis is the best Los Angeles, Laker on most nights. He's a much better defender than LeBron. He can be equally dominating on offense. Blocks, steals. I thought Anthony Davis last night had one of his great games. He's also top

five in minutes in the NBA. And Anthony Davis played 52 minutes last night in that raging comeback to beat Milwaukee. But there's always been this thing. After the Lakers won in the bubble, LeBron wanted to hand the

baton to AD. And if you recall, he came into camp out of shape. And there was about a year and a half Odyssey where we couldn't figure out what's going on. He eventually, I don't know, sold his home. Maybe he moved closer to the facility. I don't know what it is. But in the last year and a half, Anthony Davis has transformed himself,

always healthy, huge minutes, more consistent offensively. I feel now this is Anthony Davis's Laker team. It's not LeBron's. I didn't feel that at the start of the year. I do feel it now. Last night, I mean, his year is built to a crescendo. Last night was a remarkable performance. Points in the 30s, 23 rebounds, four blocks, just a fantastic finish for him.

And both these teams were on fumes at the end. But the Lakers finally got the guy beyond LeBron. LeBron now's picking his spots. Anthony Davis is not picking his spots anymore. He's given you great defense every night. Three out of four nights, he's good offensively. But between his stability and his ability to play big minutes and not get hurt. And DeAngelo Russell's ability, even when LeBron's not on the floor, to give you a consistent 20-plus, I think makes this team the best matchup in the West to the Denver Nuggets.

Now, they haven't beaten them, but they match up well. and I've said it. If Austin Reeves is your four, you can get to the finals. If Austin Reeves is your three, you're going to lose to Denver and five or six. Right now, the Lakers, I think, can go mostly toe-to-toe with Denver the way they're currently playing. And if they play them early in the first round, you get a little bit more rest in the first round. So I was talking to Nick Wright yesterday about this on my pod, and he said, actually, the Lakers playing Denver first up is an advantage because there's more days off. Denver's younger and doesn't need it.

LeBron is older and needs it, so I think this is a very interesting matchup. Here's something else to throw your way. I saw this where the Chiefs traded Legerious Sneed to the Titans, and I was thinking about this. Everybody wants a great quarterback. The downside to having a superstar quarterback as a teammate, you get much less valuable.

The Chiefs have now moved off D. Ford, Orlando Brown, Tyreek Hill, Juju, Juju, Schuster, legurious need, Trevarious Ward, Tyron Matthew, no negative effect at all. Patrick Mahomes is 6'2 of duct tape. He is the great eraser and the great compensator. It is very much like Brady. Lost Randy Moss, one more Super Bowls.

Now, Brady had gronk. They were tied at the hip, and Mahomes has Kelsey. But if you go to those New England teams, all those years, There are only two receivers, Edelman in the playoffs, and Gronk always, that Tom really relied on. And I feel the same way. This team just keeps moving off people, and there's no negative effect. So everybody wants a superstar quarterback. But Dak, who's a good quarterback, Tannahill, Tua.

You take Tyreek Hill out of Tua, not the same guy. C.D. Lamb gets hurt in week three. Dax in trouble. Ryan Tannahill without A.J. Brown. We saw what happened. They plummet. So, like, Mahomes has very much become Brady. It's just duct tape.

You love having him as a teammate, but in the end, he makes people much less valuable outside of Kelsey, Agronk, or Julian Edelman. And with that, Eric Mangini, who, of course, got a lot of rings in New England is now joining us. So yesterday we talked about something in the draft. There's two ways to go about it if you're New England. Fix this roster. Trade down.

because any quarterback that comes in is going to get overwhelmed. The third quarterback in this draft is not going to be Josh Allen Mahomes where you can win with average players. Trade down, fix your roster. You're slow offensively. You don't have playmakers defensively. Then go to the free agent market next year with a quarterback or go draft a quarterback.

But nobody's going to win with this lack of talent offensively. And your third quarterback, Jaden Daniels, little spindly cold weather. or just draft a quarterback, get it solved, play Jacoby Brissette most of the year, be awful and just cross your fingers it works. Do they necessarily, in your opinion, have to draft a quarterback with that third pick? Unless you have a real conviction at that third pick,

I don't think you draft a guy. I think you try to trade back and maybe get someone later because with those top five picks, it's not just it's the pressure that comes with it it's the pressure to start away right away it's the pressure to perform right away it's a lot for a young guy and unless you really believe that guy can come in there and do that at a reasonable enough level then then it doesn't make sense and you go ahead and trade back and try to continue to build the team i just don't know if if new england the fan base the owner if they're going to be patient enough to

to do that. That was sort of a trademark of Bill's philosophy. I don't know if this is going to be a trademark or if they have the patients do that. And look, if Jaden Daniels is there to me at three, I would take Jaden Daniels. I really like him. Okay. You like Jaden Daniels at three. That's the guy you really like. I really like him. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I know that Drake May has bumped up and but I you know I watched Jayden Daniels and I liked him more in the first half against Alabama

than I did in the three games I watched you know with Drake May I just think that made a ton of wild plays he's 6'4 I know he's 210 so he's a little bit light but but he's going to grow into that body

and then his ability when he pulls the ball down I know he hasn't run a 40 but it's fast whatever that number is it's fast depending on what type of guy he is that that's a big part of it but from a talent perspective I thought he was outstanding so yesterday draft kings of the day before came out with over under numbers and I was a little taken back the bears

were at eight and a half and I think a lot of it is Ryan Poles has had a very good six to eight months the Keenan Allen de Andre swift can catch gerald everett they've got two of everything running backs tight ends I do think polls a former offensive lineman I think the offensive line left tackle I think I think they have their tackles figured out. And do you think eight and a half, nine wins is ambitious? Or do you think if you start looking at this personnel, Caleb can win in this division? Yeah, I think the Bears, I think the Bears are one of the most exciting teams going into next season. Now, Caleb comes in.

He's a guy that is so much further ahead than where Justin Fields was even three years into the league as a passer. And he can make wild plays. He can make dynamic plays. the thing with him is trying to reel him in a little bit to not make a bunch of mistakes. But you've got, you know, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Cole Komet, DeAndre Swift. There's a ton of talent. And then I thought with Iber Flues taking over the defense, later in the year, they played so much better defensively than they did at the beginning of the season.

Yes. This team should be in the mix, depending, again, on how much Caleb can control, sort of his ability, not his ability, but his desire to constantly want to make plays. I think that's going to have to be reeled in a little bit so that he's not making a bunch of wild plays for the other team. Yeah. I said when you get an old quarterback, there is a pretty clear indication. Stafford of the Rams, the Rams had a good offensive line.

Brady to the Bucks, they drafted Tristan Wurfs, they had a good offensive line. When Aaron went to the Jets, an older quarterback, they have a lot. a bad offensive line. By the way, Kirk Cousins going to Atlanta makes sense. They have a very good offensive line. So the Jets have now tried to, it's older players, but it's from Baltimore and Dallas. Those have been very good

high-end offensive lines. I think there's a real clear line. Old quarterback, Russell Wilson and Denver's first year, not a good offensive line. First thing Sean Payton did is fix that. I don't see these moves as some magic elixir to

Aaron. I think they'll be better but Tyrone Smith's going to give you about 13 games. Your kind of takeaway on what they've done this offseason up front to protect Aaron. Well, in the opening press conference, the GM's opening press conference in New York, he talked about the need to fix the offensive line. So that's what, five years ago. Yeah. So here we are five years later, and it's not fixed.

So they put money into the offensive line in the past. They've put draft picks into the offensive line. It's a question of whether or not they've got the right guys. and how they've changed their process of evaluating who fits and who works, because the process they've had up to this point hasn't been very good at all. And then you take guys that have been dinged up with Tyron Smith, and even Mike Williams, he's coming off an injury. The jets are confusing because there are some positive things,

and there are some exciting things from a fan perspective for them, but then the owner comes out the other day and says, we may keep Zach Wilson and Colin we could see a situation if they keep Zach where he plays again next season I think they'll be riding in the streets of New York if that's the case yeah I mean but I

it blew me away that they were even talking about that being a possibility and if you're a jet's fan you got to be a little bit taken aback by that why why would you do it so you know Jim Harbaal well San Francisco was a mess, and then immediately they're in the NFC championship.

Michigan was a mess, and then they're immediately 10 and 3. Jim is so unique. He's talking about sleeping in a motor coach. He's like, oh, it's perfect. I can go back there and sit back there and think. And it's like, I just think, this whole J.J. McCarthy thing where he's like, that's the best quarterback in college. Well, he wants a quarterback derby at the top so he can move down at five and get more picks.

I know what Jim wants to do. and I do think he got, this is a really good job for a lot of reasons. He's got his quarterback left tackling two edge rushers. Those are really crucial things and hard things to find in the draft. What to you is realistic? Let's start with two questions on Jim. First of all, what is realistic first year with the Chargers? What's realistic?

Well, Jim comes in and with all the underachieving that's gone on there for multiple years, he instantly changes that equation okay it's it's not only does he change it by virtue of he's won everywhere he's been but the the mindset the approach that he has it's it's completely sincere he sincerely believes that they can win they can win right now the guys that he has cannot only play really well but can play better in his system and and that permeates throughout the organization. And there's a approach that he has that's so sincere and unique, it resonates different in a locker room than other guys that I've been around.

And him living in RV, that's not because he's trying to get any kind of headline or any kind of crap. That's just Jim. And Jim is a, he's about football. and that's all he's about. Yeah, it's interesting. It's not play-calling, it's culture, it's not scheme. I mean, when you look at Harbaugh's schemes,

were you blown away by them? Well, here's what I was blown away by, and then I've been with Bill Parcells, I've been with Bill Belichick, I've been with great head coaches. I was lucky that way, and Jim used to say, and I've shared this with you before,

we're the San Francisco 49ers, we can do whatever we want. And what that meant is that he was not going to be bound by what the rest of the league was doing. He was not going to be bound by what everybody in the media thought that we should do. That's not how it worked in that building. If you wanted to try something different that nobody had really done before or maybe there was something new you pulled out of a college program,

he was open to that. And it's very rare for someone with as much success as he's had to be so open to new ideas. And having that openness gives you a chance to grow and gives you a natural competitive advantage because it's not group think anymore, which permeates most of the NFL. So, you know, you know this well because of New England.

Everybody wants to star quarterback. The problem being for the locker room, once you get one, everybody becomes much less valuable. The chiefs are moving off. Great players. It's like, yeah, they want to know. other Super Bowl. You were in, you may not have known it initially with Tom, but that's what it became. They moved off Randy Moss and you're like, yeah, we're fine. I mean, Kansas City is

starting to feel like New England where they've got, the egos haven't permeated the building quite yet. There's not a power struggle in the building quite yet. That stuff happens generally, NBA, NFL, now everybody's grabbing power. But it does it, when you look at them, do you see a little bit of the New England thing where it's like connected owner, personnel moves don't always hit, the quarterback and the coach, though, overcome them. Does it feel a little New England to you with more offensive flare? Yeah, absolutely. And even more so after Patrick got paid, because now you do have to make the tough decisions as to who you're going to keep, who you're going to move on from, and those players that deserve a big contract,

because they've contributed significantly to your success, you can't keep them all. But you've got the most important player who's going to make everybody else around them so much better. It makes the O-Lyne better. He makes a running game better because there's only seven in the box. Receivers that would be marginal on other teams can grow and develop and make plays. And I know you said it makes them less valuable, but to some degree, Colin, it makes them more valuable in the open market because other teams want to get some of that Super Bowl experience. So if you go get a guy from Kansas City,

you know that you've got a guy that knows how to win. You know that you've got a guy that's played under pressure. So it does hurt you in terms of your ability to save there, but I do think it helps you in the open market go get a bigger contract than you necessarily would have because you're from such a winning franchise. By the way, Justin Fields, Russell Wilson, how's that going to work for you? What do you make of that?

I love that. I love that. You're spending $5 million total for Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. That's what Joe Flacco is getting, I think, is $5 million. So you get a guy, and look, we don't know where Russell's going to be, but he's performed at a high level in the past. And so if you get some semblance of that, okay, great. And then you've got whatever Justin Fields can potentially be, you get a chance to look at that.

He gets the work with Russell Wilson. He gets another year to develop. You can platoon him in and play him meaningful snaps, which is a huge problem for every defense they play because you've got to prepare for two guys. I just think you get two guys like that for a total of $5 million versus what other people are playing. Paying, it's huge value.

Now you can take that money and go spend in other areas and try to figure out your longer term situation. if Justin Fields isn't the answer. Eric Mangini, just got back from a trip to a place. I want to go in my life. He went over to Japan with his kids. It's very excited. He told me it's amazing over there.

I've tried to talk my wife into it. My son would go in a second. He loves that stuff. You want to go? I'll join you. I know like three people who went to Japan this year. He does this all the time, Eric. He just says, he doesn't consider his family.

He's like, I'll go to Japan for a week. You may want to get it. You got to bring everybody. Eric, good seeing you. Great seeing you, guys. Yeah, that's one of the ones. My wife and I generally kind of have the same feeling, like Italy, but like Iceland. She had no interest to go to a cold vacation.

I went with my son, blast. I love that volcanoes and the glacier. My son and I had, it's the best vacation maybe ever. My wife tends to like warm or Italy. Well, Japan's culture and food. They say Tokyo is so clean. It's just amazing. Despite all the people in the hustle and bustle,

it's very organized, incredibly clean. I'd go there. Yeah, I'm a city or beach guy. Same here. I love Japan. New York City's amazing. New York City, probably the greatest city in America, as you know. I like the people.

Well, by the way, Manjini scared the daylights out of me when he said Zach Wilson could be a starter next year. Rogers goes down. And Zach Wilson is the guy like, Oh gosh. Just, good luck. One more herd?

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Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Start with Kirk Cousins. Everybody has the Falcons next season, winning the division, including Draft Kings, who have set their over-under at 10 and a half. Rahim Morris spoke at the league meetings about building a new offense for Cousins, the new quarterback. Atlanta offense with Zach Robinson and all those people that I mentioned,

before and I thought it was really important that we get threats on all three levels of the field and I was lucky enough to be around Roddy and Julio Jones and Harry Douglas and you had different body types. You had different movement skills and you want to be to put all those guys in that room so you can really provide more opportunities for that quarterback to get those guys to football so you can be explosive. Speaking of explosive, you see Morris's guns there? Yeah, the tight shirt. That's like you. He's one of those defensive coaches that has a feel for offense. I think Rahim's best buddy is McVeigh.

He's got a little bit of a feel. Some old school guys, Vic Fangio, Mike Zimmer, that's not what they do. But there are these new defensive guys. D'emiko Ryans has a feel for it in Houston. Rahim Morris.

A lot of the old school guys, like Tomlin's a little old school. He doesn't have feel for offense. Some of these new guys, though, I think D'emiko Ryans, and that was the word in San Francisco, and Rahim Morris, Sala, I think, did some offensive coach,

I don't think Sala is clueless about offense. It's just the Zach Wilson pick didn't work. So I'm going to read off the receivers the Falcons have. You tell me if they're like top 10, middle of the pack, or bottom 12. Drake London, Darnell Mooney, Rondale Moore, Cadarole Hodge, Ray Ray MacLeod. Okay, so first of all, Drake London's a great number two or a lower-end one. Mooney is a great two. I think the other kid, the kid from Ole Miss, what's the third one you mentioned?

Rondale Moore? Yeah, I think he's very clever. He was in Arizona. Yeah, I think he's a real clever. So those three guys, along with Kyle Pitts, they'll draft another one. So what are they? Top 10, middle of the back, or bottom of 12? You mean the whole unit?

Just the wide receiver? Probably like top 12. Oh, stop it. Two good backs. No way. That's got to be a bottom 12 unit of receivers in the league. I mean, listen, London is good. Health was an issue.

Darno Mooney, if he was such a good, too, why would the bears let him walk? Come on. He's okay. And then Rondale Moore. Mooney's a nice player. These are nice, competition. supplementary receivers. Nice doesn't get it done in the NFL.

I need really good. I mean, the Jets went and got Mike Williams. That's an upgrade. Mike Williams can't stay healthy. Keenan Allen's excellent. Mike Williams can't stay healthy. I don't know. I think Atlanta's offensive pieces.

I think their O-lines great, two backs I like, a tight-in. I think Atlanta's offensive pieces in that division are by far and away the best in the division. Forget Chicago. Why don't you go get some real estate in Atlanta and go get some season tickets? to the Falcons. Go check out the dirty birds in action. The future of the NFC may very well start in Chitown. Chicago. The future of the NFC?

I think I was just talking to somebody that recently was at the pro day of Caleb Williams. And you know the first thing they said? They're like, that dude looks like a linebacker. People have no idea how big Caleb. He's only six feet tall, six one. When you're around Caleb Williams, it's like, Oh, he didn't look like a quarterback. Like, he is thick.

You just, that's going to be electric. So when I go to Chicago, people come out to me and they go, I don't know, I really like Justin Fields. And I was telling people like three or four weeks ago, I was like in Chicago, I'd be like, they're trading him. They're not keeping him. You got to get over that. And so last week I was in Chicago and I had multiple people go, yeah, you were right. Wait, wait, random people? No, no, people that I see repeatedly.

They're like, yeah, I'm like, you got to get over the Justin Fields thing. He got a six-round pick. it doesn't work. Those are over. Caleb is a much, much better prospect. Like, not close. Not close. Any of them referenced these randoms?

They reference my comments about Chicago? Never do. I thought they would have mentioned me. Next up, NFL draft. Less than a month away. We've got another mock draft. Here we go. Bucky Brooks, who's been on the show.

We know him well. Super nice guy. I mean, some of these mock drafts, Colin. Here's Bucke Brooks' mock draft. He, if you look at the top, Caleb obviously won. He has Jaden Daniels 2. I've moved Daniels to 2 in mine mock draft. He has McCarthy 3.

No Drake May in the top 10. No way, Drake May is going 11. It's insanity. Bucky, what are we doing? This is insane. Now, the idea that the Jets would pass on Dr. MacArthur is not going to succeed in this league if that is where he goes. That is an abyss for a young quarterback.

Yeah. They have no number one receiver. They need upgrades on the O line. They're mediocre at tight end. They have a defensive coach. That is not where J.J. McCarthy should go. That's not a good spot for any of these young quarterbacks. And Bucs, for those watching, see Brock Bowers to the Jets at 11.

If I'm Drake May, I would love this. Oh, I get to go, Justin Jefferson. Jordan Addison. Aaron Jones. The tight end, they got Hawkinson. By the way, their number three receiver. Is Osborne? I don't know if he's still there.

But, yeah, he was good. I mean, if I'm Drake May, I'd sign up for that tomorrow. Real quick on the Jets. I know they invested in a left tackle and a right tackle. I'm sorry, they're not going Brock Bauer. That's not happening. I know some of the gambling odds have moved. It's just smoke.

The Jets are not getting a tight end at 11. Not with their offensive line issue. That's not what's happening. Some of these mock drafts. Yeah. Well, people are doing it so they get on the show. That's why they want to put their up there. Well, and this one is just, you know, you can say whatever you want,

but there are certain GMs that aren't going to draft certain positions. The Rams are not going to take a corner in the first round, unless they trade down multiple times and it's the best player clearly on the board. Certain teams do certain things. I don't think the Chargers are going wide receiver because they took a wide receiver first last year, and it's a loaded wide receiver draft. Different regime. I know, but you got to go get.

I think the Chargers trade down. I think they could get Bowers at like 12, 13, but I don't believe they're going to go receiver again. Well, we know they want to trade, but Harbaugh's history. Myrief Neighbors did his Pro Day today. Somebody put the side by side on Twitter of his numbers at like Combine Pro Day compared to Brandon Ayyuk. And he's like topping Brandon Ayuk in every catar.

And he's faster. So the Malik neighbor stuff, I've been sleeping on him a little bit. Are Chargers passing on him if they don't have a trade? Go look at the guy from Baltimore that follows Jim and then go look at Jim Harbaugh. When you rebuild a culture and there's all these great O linemen and defensive ends, you think he's starting with a receiver? He wants to build a tough physical team that can push the chiefs around. I don't think he's going finesse or speed.

I think he's going big and power. You know, that sounds like the Bengals a couple years ago with that offensive lineman, Penae Sewell, or Jamar Chase. this is a new NFL by the way Joe Burrow's been hurt several times he could certainly use Pane Hsuil bro they went to a Super Bowl

stop come on and Burrow got hurt again last year Penae Soule's fantastic Jemar Chase is you know who's comfortable in the pocket and not getting hit Jared Gav

oh gosh Joe I love Joe Burrell he is one more injury away from you having to draft a quarterback if week six he goes down you got to draft another quarterback you have to I mean, he's...

I don't know that that has anything to do with Penae Soule versus Jemar Chase. Jamar Chase, put a stamp on it. He's been a top three. By the way, here's a Harbaugh quote I was just sent. The offensive line to me is important. If I ask you to the question like, what position group depends on no other position group to be good, but every other position group depends on them to be good, what position group is that offensive line? Harbaugh's going big and power in the first couple rounds.

Is that a real? They're going to go, watch them go offensive tackle. If he trades with Minnesota and gets two picks, I would be, do not be surprised if he doesn't go with like the 11th and the 23rd pick. Offensive tackle, the kid from Oregon State, and defensive tackle at the bottom of the first. He is going to change the culture. It's going to be power. All power. I need to see that Harbaugh quote.

It sounds like how much wood could have woodchuck. It seems very. It's very good. Sounds very accurate. You know Harbaugh. He's a physical guy. He's also a speed receiver. He's a master of mind games, too.

He's always doing interesting stuff. He's in his motor coach having the time of his life. By the way, he is moving to the South Bay. Let's just say that. I know I actually. Not as close to me as some of these other coaches. He's moving across the street from a friend, and I'm not talking about it anyway. I know exactly where it is.

Final story, let's go to Steve Kerr and how about your Warriors last night? Savings face, Colin. Clay Thompson back in the starting lineup. Clay. Went for 28 points at 6-3s. Kind of looking like me out there, a sniper. Boom. Warriors bury the heat.

It should be noted. Miami did not have Jimmy Butler, Tyler, Hero, Duncan Robbins. Whose fault is that? Well, Warriors went by 21, playing against, like, a B team of Miami Heat guys. So, um, Golden State now one game up on the Rockets. Why did the Miami Heat decide not to play those guys?

I don't love that. That's that load management nonsense, isn't it? Bam had a good night. But why do they do that? Well, I'm prone to a low-man-ish. I went to the Celtics game the other night, and they didn't play Jalen Brown, Porzzyngas, or Drew Holiday. Now, they still beat Chicago, but it's like it's a Saturday night in the NBA.

People pay up $400 for a ticket. Put the stars out there. Jason Tatum was out there, right? He's the star. You think anybody in Chicago is buying a ticket to go see Drew Holiday or Jalen Brown? I'm saying Saturday nights in the NBA is date night. That's when you play the stars. I think this is a much bigger problem.

in the NBA that anybody lets on is that when you last two or three times I've gone to an NBA game and I'm not just Boston was one of them. Now Chicago played their guys. Boston didn't play three of their four best players. The last four times I've gone to an NBA game, multiple stars not available. I think it's a problem.

It doesn't happen in the NFL because there's only 17 games. It doesn't happen in baseball because like what do you need to load manage for? Baseball's like you're not even working hard. It's four at bats you're barely running around. NBA's a different animal, man. By the way, Rockets tonight at OkC, huge game for Houston. OKC on a back-to-back.

So they won't play any of their players. I don't know about that. OKC's fighting for that number one. By the way, back-to-back NBA, the analytics prove there are no more injuries on back-to-back. They've already disputed that. So just go play. I know it's hard, but you go play, you go back to your room, they give you IVs, get your B-12 shots, you hydrate, you sleep in.

They cancel morning shoot-around if you do it back-to-back. You show up at the arena at 4-45. you can play a back-to-back. How about after the double overtime Lakers game? Should AD play today? Yes. It's called IV, B-12 shots. I'm getting one after the show today.

Go get one. Of course, AD should play. They've got to win games. Did he play 50 minutes last night. Oh, 50 minutes. I did three-hour show yesterday. Got a nine-minute nap. Go out and play.

Sitting in a cushy chair, Anthony Davis is blocking Dave at the rim to save the game. I'm not saying AD wasn't great. But give me a break. Oh, my God. a back-to-back game for a 30-year-old athlete. I will defend the players all day on resting in the NBA. Sorry. There's no analytic that proves they get more hurt.

It's one thing, again, it is one thing if you're LeBron. Like, LeBron at this point is queer like, guys, and the Lakers play pretty well without LeBron. But, like, at some point, you are a pro athlete. Should an accountant during tax season, I'm working 16-hour days, I'm just going to take like Wednesday off. No, it's a counting season. Two months.

The NBA season's eight. By the way, Colin, how's this? You know that handshake emoji? I really like that. Yeah. Let's do a handshake to you. Guys won't take days off, but you've got to stop making fun of them when they get injured. Anti-David's always hurt.

Kauai Leonard. I'm not making fun of them. I said AD had a stretch where he was not in good shape. He came to camp out of shape, and that's why you get hurt. AD has made much greater commitment to that side of the game. He's never hurt. I'm not making fun of them. It's just some guys do not want to play hurt.

I don't buy into this load management. This is a new way. I'm not trying to go old school here, but there's no proof analytically that football games on Thursday, injure more players. There's no proof. And there's no proof back-to-back's injure more players. Play.

Again, LeBron's an older player. I get a handful of older guys. I do get that. KD, if there's like three games in five nights, and he's like, listen, this is a bad team. team will take it off. I get it. But mostly, you're a pro athlete. This is what you do. Play.

Come on. No more coddling. Play. In last three or four NBA games I've gone to, multiple stars sit. Come on. What if, you know? And I'm getting free seats. I'd be ticked if I was paying for. I've got some comments. I'm just going to stop. I'm not going to power down here. Let the guy go off

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because he's so valuable to the sport. There's a lot of stuff out there with steroids that happened, a lot of things. And if he couldn't get absolute documentation, baseball leaned into, you know, you know, protecting our stars. I'm okay with that. Again, there's a, the advantage the Dodgers have is there's increased rumors about all these Vegas guys who have all this information, but most people don't trust Vegas sports gambler guy to begin with.

So how valid are their claims? That actually helps the Dodgers. Everybody's got a buddy in Vegas who's got great lines and great access. Most of them are odd and you just don't trust them. So if you, if you got him nailed, he's nailed. But I fall into the belief that I think it's very possible that O'Tonnie coming over here, his best friend becomes his interpreter, and, you know, his best friend robs him. I think it's very possible.

Probable? I don't know. Very possible. Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager, talking about how things have changed in the last couple of days with O'Tonnie. I would argue that it's going to help relate. internally because you know there's no longer a buffer where I think that I've already seen it you know the last couple days I think show hey's been even more engaging with his teammates and I think there's only upside with that by the way you were looking at me J Mack when I talked about friends with buddies in Vegas there's a lot of stuff percolating here I've said before there are stories I I have no interest being first. I just want to get it right.

There's too much at stake here. It's not about the fact that I'm on a Dodger station. There's just too much going on here. You could ruin somebody's reputation. Let's just get it right. I have no idea. My gut feeling is people get robbed all the time, charities, banks. I said yesterday, Robert De Niro got robbed of $88 million,

along with a bank with an art deal that went side. Billy Joel lost $90 million. Tim Duncan, John Elway, lost $15 million in a Ponzi scheme. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kevin Garnett, it happens all the time. Banks are getting duped all the time. You know, I mean, some of the digital advertising numbers where it just kind of disappeared into the ether, I mean, the Bitcoin scams, NFT,

there's a lot of funny money out there. You tend to think what? What is your strongest take? This is, like you said, a tough topic, because I am fine with what Otani said. I believe him. Does that make me a sucker or a dupe? I don't think so.

I mean, listen, let's be real, Colin, if somebody robbed you of $4.5 million who was like your right-hand man, you're not going to want to talk about that. That's humiliating, embarrassing. You feel like an idiot. So I expect him to talk to Major League Baseball, Otani, talk to the FBI or whoever. Once he's cleared, I'm not talking about that. I'm moving on. You know, it's like a tough subject.

Yeah, I think journalists feel they have a job to be curious and aggressive. The public must know. Actually, no, they don't. I don't think the public cares. Well, no, the public does care. Well, they're fascinated by it, but I don't think they're as offended as some on the internet would lead you to believe. And a lot of it's what about the, you know, the questions are what about this Vegas connection? I mean, like, remember Tim Donagie's situation?

Yeah. And everybody was like, oh, it's the NBA. And then after a while, Tim Donagie didn't look terribly credible who he was hanging out with. And the NBA was just fine. So, you know, college basketball has had this stuff forever because college, basketball has 370 division one teams before nil half these games aren't televised 75% aren't televised you take a you know this team plays that team not on television i'm a college kid and i can get 5 000 bucks i've been arguing this forever college basketball before nil

which is two years ago i think it's been i think there's been games thrown forever in college basketball low level stuff probably college football games first of all college football guys on campuses always get paid the best players a lot of college basketball guys didn't and there's so many games that aren't televised that i'm going to miss a few jumpers you're a college kid in the 70 25 000 to a college kid is massive 10 000 to a college kid to miss a couple jumpers so i've always thought college basketball because the sports the games aren't televised there's probably going to be a push to eliminate prop betting from like college basketball it should that is just rife for the other thing that's a real it's so

easy now. What you have to be careful about, prop bets are obviously... Well, the NBA story with the prop bets is, that's a real dicey one. We have a marginal player that can, like, not shoot three-es. Go to place three minutes. Oh, I got an eye injury. I'm out. You know, and then all of his

underscash and... Yeah, anyways. But regarding Otani, once this is done and he's cleared by Major League Baseball, he's not going to want to talk about it. He's not going to want to answer questions. People don't, like, fundamentally understand that. I don't know why it is.

He's humiliated. Yeah. And by the way, this idea that how would Othani not know that all this money was missing? You think Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio were checking their ATM accounts? You think they go to an ATM?

First of all, celebrities and athletes are not accountants. They're not checking their bank account. They're just not. I mean, when you're a guy like George Clooney in his prime, he had a tequila business. He had international

endorsements. Kobe Bryant was making a fortune in Turkey, in China. You have teams of accountants. They give you a stipend every month. They send it to your account. You get, you know, say Kobe gets

$200,000 a month for he and his family. Everything's paid. Mortgage card. You're not paying any bills. You don't write checks. You don't write checks. You just get money into an account so you and your wife and your family can live.

You don't know what's happening. We've seen agents rip off people. It happens. These guys are targets. Let's be real. I mean, they make a lot of money. They're very busy. They just, they move different than normal human beings.

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