The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - NBA problems continue to drip, Dan Mullen
Episode Date: December 20, 2024Blazing 5 picks. New UNLV football head coach Dan Mullen joins Colin to talk about the College Football Playoffs and his new job. Issues continue for the NBA as Colin believes the woes will conti...nue to escalate in the years to come.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What a weekend of massive college football.
The college football playoff starts tonight, Indiana at Notre Dame, Texas and Clemson over the weekend.
Penn State's playing as well.
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So, J. Mack, I've been a terrible year betting NFL, my worst ever.
Most of the time, I'm 55, 56%.
But it's been a year in which favorites have done well.
to take dogs. So I've been off
all year. That's the breaks.
Nobody cares. But I will tell you
today, I thought, I thought
the single best bet of the weekend
was a college bet. And so I
thought, I'm going to open it up. I'm going
to give people an opportunity. It's a
bet that you and I both agree with.
It's never too late to turn it around, Cowherd.
You remember last year, I think you started, I mean, who could
who remembers? Oh, 9 and 1.
And you turned it around and finish positive.
So like, you could do it. You know, finish strong.
man. It's not how you start.
It's how you finish.
I like your optimism. So here we go
on a Friday. My Blazing
Five. That's a hot one.
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Indiana at Notre Dame.
I like Indiana plus seven
and a half. It's going to be in the upper
20s, wind chill and the upper
teens. I don't think either
offense is going to be great.
I think the game will be fast.
It will be the run game, eating the
The clock Indiana is really well coached coming off their most dominant performance of the year, crushing Purdue.
This is not Ohio State in Columbus.
The weather will be a factor.
It'll slow down both offenses.
And Notre Dame's defense, by the way, USC got 560 yards against him.
Could have won that game without pick sixes.
The last two opponents that Notre Dame has faced have both had over 190 yards rushing.
So Indiana is the second highest scoring team in college football.
I think it is a game with a lot of running.
I really like Indiana's coach.
I think Ohio State's a different team in good weather than Notre Dame in bad weather.
I'll take the Irish to win, but I'm taking the seven and a half points, 2723 fighting Irish.
Clemson in Texas.
Both Jay Mack and I like the Longhorns to cover.
I don't know how Clemson scores.
I could argue, you know, are they really, you know, they don't really feel like a college football playoff team.
Texas is 11 and O against everybody not named Georgia.
Their offense is sputtered, but I think their defense could score against Clemson.
Clemson's the only playoff team with three losses from a week conference.
O and two against SEC teams outscored 51 to 17.
And again, the Texas defense, that's why their offense has been so conservative.
They may not need to score more than a touchdown or two.
I'm not sure how Clemson mounts long drives in this game.
I'm going to swallow the 12 points.
I think I'd prefer to see Archmanning at quarterback.
Texas wins 30 to 13.
Rams at Jets.
At minus 3, I'll take the Rams.
First of all, the game means a lot more.
This is a Jets team that had to fight like crazy to come back and beat an awful, awful Jacksonville team.
Also, I get Stafford and McVeigh coming off extra time because they played on Thursday.
They control their own destiny.
They need to win this game.
No turnovers and no sacks last two games.
The O-line's finally healthy.
By the way, they are 5 and O this year when they don't turn it over.
The Jets, by the way, last four games, you know, they're one-score games.
They keep it close.
I think it'll be close.
But the game means more.
It's been a noisy, noisy week for the Jets.
I'm going to take the Rams to win and cover 2723.
49ers at Dolphins.
I'm going to take the Niners minus one to win straight out.
Here's my problem with Miami.
People have figured them out.
Tyreek Hill has gone over 100 yards once in the last 13 games.
Tua has not completed a pass over 20 yards in the air before Thanksgiving.
And the Niners are a bully.
They're very good against teams that are below 500.
They average 32 a game.
They're coming off extra rest.
4-0 against teams currently under 500.
They remind me a little of Baltimore.
When you stack them up against the great team, the Niners have flaws.
When they can bully an average team like Miami, they win.
I'll lay the one point.
Niners win 28 to 24.
Patriots and bills.
I don't like big favorites, but the bills have won nine straight regular season.
Home games, minus 14.
I'll lay the points.
They've scored 30 plus and eight straight games.
They don't allow sacks, so I don't think Josh Allen,
will be rushed. They've only allowed 13 sacks all year, and they're outscoring their opponents at home by 17 a game.
The Patriots have lost four straight. They can't score. There's questions about the coaching.
Listen, I get the best NFL team at home that protects their quarterback against a Gerard Mayo team that has gotten worse.
Whatever they do offensively, people have figured it out. Point differential. I think the bills cover 30 to 13.
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Yeah, there we go, Jay Mack.
If you want to look at the picks, I like the college games this weekend.
I kind of my take is I hate big favorites, but Green Bay and Buffalo are not only big favorites.
They're playing really good football.
And I think my favorite bet of the week is Texas Miner,
is 12. I don't know how Clemson engineers any offense in that game.
Yeah. I like them. By the way, have you seen the images from South Bend, Indiana?
Oh, yeah.
No. Very cold. I got some buddies going to the game. They are fired up. I like Notre Dame.
I'm excited. I can't wait for the playoff games. Yeah. Texas as well. I'm with you on that.
Yeah. So, I mean, Notre Dame, Indiana, I think people look at Indiana, and I think it's being
overplayed that they're a fraud. Ohio State, good weather.
at home, that was a tough place for Indiana.
Yeah. Okay. This, first of all, it's not going to be as loud because people are going to be
wrapped up. It is freezing. And again, this is a Notre Dame defense. I went to the game
at the Coliseum. USC moved the ball. They got shredded through the air, yeah. Yeah. So,
and also, I do think that Indiana is closer in talent to Notre Dame than they are at Texas
or an Ohio state. I just, I felt,
watching that game. We were two series in and I'm like, okay, this is big boy football. They don't
have the players the Buckeyes do. And Ohio State, by the way, does that to a lot of people.
I don't think, but I think Indiana can play a Penn State, a Notre Dame, other teams that are
good and compete. I wonder how much like the winter break comes into play because a lot of
colleges, you know, the kids are back off campus. They're not there. I don't know how juiced up
these home stadiums are going to be. They're calling for a whiteout in Happy Valley of
state. Is it going to be, are all the students still there? Are they hanging around after
finals? Everybody usually wants to get out of Dodge. I don't know what this is going to be like.
We've never seen this before. Yeah. No, I mean, and I think anytime you've never seen anything
before, it makes it, I can't wait to watch it tonight. I'm going to the dome at Cosm.
Oh, I want to go watch it. I'm going to see what it looks like. By the way, if you've never
gone to that thing, there's one in L.A. and Dallas, one coming to Atlanta, Detroit. If you've
never been to that place in a snow game, it's incredible. To see what the players are going through
and the officials. I don't know how you call a game
and as an official in snow games.
I don't know how you do it. By the way,
I just, I want to show you
something that's really,
I like Jim Harbaugh a lot. I love
the last night was so much
about Jim Harbaugh going with the
old school kick
in that football game that hadn't
happened since
a 52-yarder by Paul
Horning of the Packers in 1962.
So it was, you know,
it was the end of the half, and it was
a fair catch and there was interference and a penalty and so there's a fair catch and you are allowed
to do this now none of us have ever seen this thing before but now you are on that penalty you can kick it
from there and the chargers have one of the best kickers in the league and so they're like all right
we're going to kick it before half and there's a big difference being down 11 and being down 8 okay
down 8 okay it's a one score game and two point conversion so dicker the kicker bang hits it from that
point on the chargers dominated and i thought it was a real glimpse
of the culture that Jim Harbaugh's created.
It was a banged-up football team.
You trail, but they're opportunistic.
They bring back an old-school football play,
and this is so classic.
Here's Harbaugh after.
We've never sung it before.
So the echoes out into the stadium.
One, two, you know what to do.
For he's a jolly good fellow.
For he's a jolly good fellow.
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By the way, December 14th last season,
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This year, they secured a playoff spot.
97% chance they make the playoffs.
That game last night had Jim Harbaugh written all over it.
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Well, he worked at ESPN last couple years of college football analyst, Mississippi State and Florida in the SEC.
He knows high-end football, and now he's a coach at UNLV, which has the best collective in the Mountain West Conference.
And he knows Urban Meyer and Dan Mullen.
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good for you. Okay, I want to start with this.
So I talked to Urban this week, and you know the pressure of the SEC.
You know the pressure of big football.
And I've always said that Ohio State, Dan, is an SEC team north.
They're the only SEC team north.
Ryan Day, bad performance.
Do you like, after a bad game at Florida, you know, at Florida, and you get a month off,
did it help you or hurt you?
What should I expect from Ohio State off that stinker against Michigan?
well listen it's going to help their performance in the end uh when they get on the field because
they're going to be a little angry when they get out there um but it hurts that is a long miserable
month of everybody telling you how awful you are i mean it's just like it's i mean it's just dreary
it's miserable you got to find a way to motivate yourself and get yourself up out of it in those
situations which is not easy to do as a coach listen you know fans are so critical of coaches like
You know, I mean, I think every person in Ohio probably thought Ryan just walked up and kicked their dog that was laying on the floor, you know, and they look at them that way.
But no one's harder on themselves than the coaches.
There's no one, I hate to say it for all your Buckeye fans out there.
There's no one in the state of Ohio that wanted to win that game more than Ryan Day and put more into it.
So I know he's awful about it.
He's going to be ready to get back out there and build.
They need to pull themselves out of that misery.
Well, you had a job like that in Florida.
and I want to pivot to the SEC.
So Carson Beck's not playing for Georgia.
I don't think they can win a natty without that.
And I'll tell you, I think Texas, I love Texas, but offensively,
they're so good defensively, they've gotten a little conservative offensively.
As a favorite, because I think Texas passes the eyeball test,
would you want to be Texas where you're kind of scuffing a little bit,
but you've got the best roster?
Is that a place that's comfortable as a coach?
because you were a favorite in a lot of big games at Florida.
Did you like being a little bit of a dog,
or did you like being the big dog coming in with a chest out?
They're both a lot of fun.
And listen, I spent a lot of time at Mississippi State.
I think we were in the underdog about every single week in the SEC.
Right.
And that was a lot of fun.
You have a little chip on your shoulder.
I think you just adjust to both and as a coach,
and you get your team to believe in that.
It's hard when you're at Texas say,
let's go really get that chip.
You have to say,
we have to play to our standard.
We have to play to our talent level.
We have to do the things that we're good.
We have to be as good as we are supposed to do
and perform that way every week.
It's hard to play the chip on the shoulder card
when you're at Texas.
But I'll tell you what, as a coach,
both are fun.
Both are great challenges to go do it.
But there's no way they're going to get it.
Texas has to go and they have to say,
hey, we've played like a dominant team
when we played people were better than.
When we played people were equal to,
we have not shown that.
And there are two games against Georgia.
You saw their offense didn't show up.
You know, they're throwing the ball.
Were you watching these clips?
They're throwing the ball down the field, scoring touchdown.
If you're going to play Georgia, you're going to play the big teams.
You have got to hit explosive plays down the field, throwing the football,
and they haven't been able to do that.
Yeah, you're not going to get 13 play drives against the Georgia Bulldogs.
So I was thinking about this tonight if I was Marcus Freeman.
I got the better roster I'm at home.
I'm planning a blizzard.
Yeah.
Dan, I'd want to run that puppy, eat the clock, get out of there.
I wouldn't want to get tricky.
I got the better roster I'm at home.
Have you ever gone into a game, and maybe not because of where you coached, where you're the
favorite, you got the better roster, weather can be a problem, maybe it's raining sideways
in Starkville.
Notre Dame's in a weird spot tonight that the weather is not their ally.
Because, by the way, Indiana can run it, they can run it.
They're well-coached.
If you were Notre Dame tonight with this weather you're facing, does it change the game?
plan? No, usually when you're the better team, you want to run more play. So you know, you don't
want to slow it down because if we have better players, better talent, the more plays we run on
the field, the better opportunity are talented guys have to make something special happen.
I do, though, see with the weather. And listen, Notre Dame, I know they're explosive,
have good players with better roster. They like to run the ball, too. Listen, in TV terms, I don't
see a Phil coming in this game right now. This one's going to be over, and it's going to be
over fast. You better tune in early.
This is probably going to go as fast as that Army Navy did because both teams are going to
be, I think, run the football, be conservative and, you know, might set football back.
It's going to look like the four horsemen might come out in another name in this one,
like the 20s playing.
Yeah.
So, listen, I like the transfer portal and the NIL.
I do think everything needs to be managed.
I think you need to have a cap with the NFL.
I mean, hell, the NFL has got a salary cap.
I think you should have like a 16 to 17 million cap.
So the gap between Ohio State and Purdue doesn't become 40 million to eight.
And I also think the transfer portal, I don't know exactly what you do.
I think we're getting a little caught up.
The truth is, USC lost some good guys.
They're going to find some good guys.
I don't worry too much about it.
Is there any, and I love the playoff, is there anything that worries you from somebody who was coached in the SEC?
You've broadcast.
Now you're in the Mountain West.
anything worry you about all these changes in college football?
You know the great thing.
Being out of it for the last couple of years
and not having to deal with the adjustments on a day-to-day basis,
when you see it from the 10,000 foot view,
I'm more comfortable coming back into it
and having seen it and understand it.
The second transfer portal window they have after spring practice,
I kind of wish they'd get rid of that.
Like, you know what?
Establish your roster.
Show kids, I'm going to go to this school.
I'm going to make a one-year commitment.
Like we're just here for a year.
coaches can manage their rosters.
Players know they have a chance to develop.
This is their team.
The signing day, I think if they just tweak the calendar in college football,
they can help me.
Hey, the money, kids, if they would, if they,
if the NSA would have tried to find a way and figure out how to pay the kids
a long time ago and give them a little something,
it would have helped.
I mean, we might not be in this as crazy a situation as we are.
But you know what?
The kids deserve some of the money.
There's a lot of money coming from all the different TV networks
and the kids deserve some of that money,
the opportunity to go make it.
The other thing, I think, though, the hard one,
the message to give the kids,
and the message I'm trying to give the kids coming here,
don't forget about development.
At some point, you know, if you're going to a school,
a different school every year for four years,
when are you really learning the system?
When are you learning to develop?
When are you learning to go take that next step?
I've coached quarterbacks my whole life.
I don't want to have a quarterback that can coach develop
and start learning graduate level classes,
not just kind of, we're going to try to dumb it down
because we have it for a year.
you can learn a system.
I want guys, make sure guys understand,
you need to really spend time, develop yourself,
learn your trait,
and not just be jumping around from one year to the next,
but hey, that's the system and they're going to do it.
I understand it.
It's great.
We had a bunch of players go to the portal after our bowl game the other night
that are going to look at opportunities here at UNLV.
But I mean, my phone's blowing up with guys that want to come play.
You know, we have the opportunity.
The great thing, you said to playoffs,
I think we have a great path to the playoffs here at UNLB.
Look at Boy.
We have beaten Boise in the championship game last year.
I'm sitting on a bye right now.
I'm going to be hanging out with you.
We're having a good time in Vegas.
And we're sitting on a buy going to watch, you know,
SMU, Penn State game tomorrow,
see who we're going to play in the second round.
So I love our path.
And I think college football is doing some things the right way.
They just need to get everybody on the same page to tweak it,
to make it the best for the student athletes,
the players, the high school kids coming in,
just put a little barrier around it.
and just clean it up a little bit and get out of we can't get out of our own way sometimes well i just
saw the world's best fake punt at that you and lv went over cow you were in a tennis the best
fake pun i've ever seen in my life and i want to i want to say you had a cushy job as a broadcaster
what did your wife say when you said hey i want to go back coach again she's she's like what
like what i thought we were kind of retired with this broadcasting life like somewhat you know out of this
world and uh you know what it's crazy got a lot of people say what's going on is you know i've had a lot
of people call with interest offer different jobs over the last couple years and it was just something
you said i was enjoying broadcast and i was really enjoying tv somehow something about this job
hit a spark in me yeah you know i don't know if it's we have great facilities here yep uh the
fatita football complex that family's done a great job had given us utilities we played a legion
stadium and an NFL stadium uh one of the nicest stadiums in football in at nashash and
any level around the world.
You're in a great market.
Las Vegas is a great place to live, as you know.
Yeah.
And, you know, we have so much going on.
It kind of got me really excited.
The path of the playoffs, I'm like, I think I'm going to go have some fun.
We're going to go coach some ball, have some fun, and have a good time and see if we can
get ourselves to the playoffs and win a championship here at UNLV.
Yeah, the weather's a little better than Bristol, Connecticut.
No shot at the, uh, my former employer.
Hey, it's great to seeing you.
Say hi to the people at UNLV.
You too. For Tita family, has been amazing in that community.
Unbelievable family.
Dan Mullen, UNLV, the Mountain West.
They got a little collective money.
Thank you, Dan, for coming on the show.
I do appreciate it.
He did a great job.
Thank you.
Yep, yep.
Yeah, I did wonder when I saw him take that job, I thought, I bet his wife thought,
okay, we're going to do the broadcasting thing.
You know, and it's interesting about recruiting now.
It used to be, it had to be on the road all the time.
What's happened a little bit now with a collective, the players come to you.
They come on your campus in the summer or spring.
It's like, all right, what do you want to make?
Here's what we have.
It's a different ball game.
J-MAC with the news.
No, no, no, no.
Turn on the news.
This is the herd line news.
You know, we like Texas a lot in a game this weekend,
but the quarterback situation is really starting to get tricky.
Well, Sark was asked about the Quinn Ewer's Arch Banning stuff,
specifically about this potentially being yours's last game as a Longhorn,
and Sark was not happy with the question.
You know, Quinn obviously needs to make a decision after this season is over,
but if this ends up being his last game...
No hypotheticals. I'm not doing hypotheticals.
It's not a hypothetical.
I'm saying if this ends up being his life's game,
can you talk about his impact that he's had in a three years,
that he's been here or has not had an impact.
I'll answer the question as it pertains to his impact now.
I'm not going to answer the question with a hypothetical.
So do you want to rephrase the question?
Yeah, I mean, I get it.
I'm not going to take your question, which hasn't happened,
and give you an answer to frame for a column.
It hasn't happened, so I'm not going to...
But I have no...
His last game.
Again.
But by the way, there's chatter.
There's Texas fans out there who think,
listen, Arch is starting next year.
If Quinn isn't ready for the NFL or doesn't get a high grade, he's going to transfer, Colin.
And he's going to be somewhere else next to you.
Okay, but let's wait until it happens.
Why should I feed you a column?
That's fair.
I'm just saying, I don't, nah.
I understand the question, and I understand the non-answer.
Does that make sense?
Is that okay to say?
I don't.
I'm not blaming you for asking the question.
I've always said, in my entire career, when I ask questions, you have a right not to answer.
And if you say I'm not going to answer, I'm not going to reframe it and try to trick you, which the writer did.
So my take is, if I was Sark, I wouldn't have answered it either.
I'd say, I'm not going to take that narrative and give you a column.
What do you think about the drama?
In fact, Sark said, would you like to refraith?
And the guy, the stubborn media guy went back to it.
It's like, I'm not going to give you a column.
Well, where are you on this whole arch versus Uers?
Like, Arch is the better quarterback.
He's more mobile.
I like him better.
Who's the better quarterback now?
I think Archmanning.
Oh, that's my thing.
But I've never been a Uers fan.
I don't think he's a first or second round pick.
I think he's a fifth round.
I think he's...
No, I think he's...
It's a lot of Kenny Pickett to me.
He's fine.
He's back up.
I don't think he's a starter in the NFL.
I don't.
Oh, my.
That's a take.
Well, I didn't think Zach Wilson was a starter in the NFL.
I didn't think Daniel Jones was.
I didn't think Tebow was.
Second overall.
You don't believe it?
I called those before they happened.
And I knew Sam Darnel was magic.
Yeah, it just took six years to be cut before the magic trick to finish.
Let's go to the NBA.
NBA fans.
Nick's Timberwolves trade.
Remember that in the summer?
Massive.
Carl Anthony Towns returned to Minnesota last night.
Former number one pick by the wolves set after the game.
Personally, this game wasn't just another game.
And if anyone told you otherwise, that's a lie.
Cat went off.
He had 32 and 20.
Didn't miss a three-pointer.
Anthony Edwards said that while he was mad, his team lost,
he was happy to see Cat do well.
Nick's going to blow out.
cat flexing.
Yeah, whatever.
I've seen him play.
Here we are talking positive NBA and look at you.
I've seen him play live four times.
He's been great three of them.
But when I need him in big spots, I've always had my questions.
I still contend he's part.
He is part of a package that eventually goes after Janus in Milwaukee.
I believe that.
Draft picks, Carl Anthony Towns, maybe OG.
Is Hot Take Summer get arriving early?
Are you, Art Manning better than Ewers?
You know, you think yours is that...
Right now?
I think arts would be starting if you were better.
I think there's a lot of politics involved.
I think there's a lot of walking on eggshells to be involved.
I think this is...
The bottom line is if Art starts, Quinn Ewer's like, I'm out of here,
then I don't have a backup quarterback I love.
Now, Carlante Towns is one of the best games of his career.
I know he's always been talented.
But 30 and 20 against his old team?
That's kind of impressive.
And you want to ship him to Milwaukee.
Oh, I need to celebrate.
The NBA.
NBA, baby, it's fantastic.
Final story.
Let's go back to the NFL, the Detroit Lions.
It felt like three weeks ago they were the darlings of the NFL, but the injuries,
oh my gosh, destroying this team.
A lot of people are trying to doubt the Lions, a line coming down against the Bears,
but defensive coordinator, Aaron Glenn, he's got no doubts.
We're 12 and 2, and the skies falling.
We're going to the playoffs.
We're in the tournament.
Why in the hell of sky falling for us?
What do we have to sit back and be sad?
I mean, we really have to you guys.
We let you guys do that.
Our job is to go play football.
But why should we sit back and wallow and think the sky's falling?
It's dumb.
I kind of like that.
He's good.
He's good at the podium.
He was a mouthy cornerback back in the day.
Oh, he taught.
Yeah.
I got no problem with it.
By the way, I don't know this.
I'm just throwing it out there.
How many former cornerbacks are NFL head coaches?
Dion's obviously a college coach.
It's a funny position that it's a big personality position,
so you'd think there'd be more like college coaches that were corners.
Has there been an NFL coach who was a great corner?
What was Dan Campbell?
He was a tight end, maybe?
Well, he won a corner.
He wasn't a corner.
He might have been like a, yeah.
He doesn't look real twitchy.
You're right.
There's some random positions out there.
And a lot of the coaches...
It's a big personality position,
so I would think there'd be corners in college,
because you've got to sell.
I mean, Dion's a prime example.
Big charisma.
Yeah.
He's got that Riz.
Is that what they call it?
The Riz, yeah.
Oh, I like that.
I haven't used that.
I just started using Mid and Lit.
Yeah.
So Riz is charisma.
Use Riz on Christmas Eve making the cookies.
Don't bring that to my house on Christmas Day.
The kids will laugh at you.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
I'm going to stand on business with Riz.
I don't know that that was said correctly.
We'll just let it slide.
Who cares?
I thought that was lit.
All right.
Jay Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
The Heard Lye News.
There were all sorts of stuff.
I was great watching that game last night.
I don't know about everybody else, but I was watching that game last night.
My takeaway was, oh, we're watching playoff teams.
If you go look at the AFC right now, the playoff picture, it's done.
I love Burrell, but they're not winning three straight games, and Denver's not losing all these games.
So I think the AFC playoff picture, and here's what's funny, the NFL extended
to 17 games, it's already done.
We've got three games left.
And they're going to extend to another game.
That's why I don't like extending the NFL season.
Wean, as the league has become more quarterback-centric,
teams separate faster.
Folks, the AFC playoffs are done.
They're all over.
Anthony Richardson can't win three straight,
although I think they beat the Titans this weekend.
Miami's too finesse.
They're not winning three straight games.
And I think you can give Joe Burrow an outside shot,
outside, 5% chance.
But the NFL extends their season.
What's the point?
The AFC's done.
We got three games left.
Go to the NFC.
Now, the NFC, I think if the Rams win this weekend and the Niners lost and Seattle lost,
then it's starting to feel like it's done.
Okay.
So I think there's a little bit on the bottom of this, but we all know right now,
Atlanta, unless Panics comes up and lights the world on fire,
Detroit, Philly, Tampa, Minnesota, Green Bay are in.
So what is interesting is the NFL has expanded the season,
and they're going to expand it to 18.
Is the last four to five weeks of the regular season,
90% of the playoff teams are done?
Don't you want...
I've said this about baseball for years.
Speed the game up. Check.
Get rid of the defensive shift.
Check. Lop off 40 games.
Get to 120 games.
Stop playing in cold winter weather.
You want to get your season done by about October 5th.
Because you start playing late October.
Good luck with football.
All right. Hold on.
Hold on. Good luck.
You want to lop off how many games from the baseball schedule?
20 home games per team.
Okay.
You think the owner is going to be good with losing play?
No, I don't think they will because they're all greedy.
But my take is baseball got rid of their time issue, got me to watch more.
They got rid of the defensive shift issue.
Now they have to create at least a little scarcity.
Make the games matter.
I've said this for years.
If I was the NBA,
I always felt 68 regular season games,
create urgency.
First round playoffs, three game series.
Second round series, five games.
Five, give seven.
Seven round first game,
first round playoffs series.
I won against an eight.
I have no reason.
I mean, LeBron never even barely lost games against eight seats.
Garbage.
Two things are at play here.
This is a business for.
for these billionaires.
This is a business for the leagues.
More games equal more money.
Pretty simple.
More games.
More teams in the playoffs equal more teams get money.
I don't have a problem with more teams in the playoffs.
I have a problem as we have this phone.
People are now on their phone more than watching TV.
They're almost on streaming and social more than TV.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the games have to matter.
Hockey's regular season, down.
NBA regular season.
Hemorrhaging.
Part of that is.
There's a lot of arguments.
Some of it is as we are more distracted, and we're all more distracted.
You have to make the games matter.
You can't make hockey, baseball, and NBA regular season matter.
The baseball ratings last year, meh.
The playoffs were huge.
But that's from our perspective.
Look on the inside.
The owners are making money hand over fist.
They don't care that ratings are down.
It doesn't impact them.
The only people who should care about the ratings are they.
the TV broadcast partners, right?
Yes.
So if they got beef with it.
But I will tell you this, prime example.
Baseball right now, Fox and ESPN are not opening up their wallets for baseball.
That's when the discussions really starts.
And that's when they're starting.
I mean, baseball signed a deal with Roku this year.
I'm not joking.
It was $30 million.
Each team got a million.
I mean, that is desperate.
That's like embarrassing.
The NBA, it may be a business, but any business that's trend.
ending in the wrong direction, be careful.
They just got their new deal.
They are flush with cash.
It was what a billion dollar deal?
I mean, they got so much money, Colin.
They're not really worried about this.
I would not be shocked if you heard from the NBA.
But remember,
here in the coming place.
The television revenue in these sports is like 30% of it.
Attendance is also.
Attendance is not really that big of an issue.
Well, again, when businesses start to a road,
baseball attendance wasn't an issue.
Then about five years ago it's an issue.
Then three years ago it became a real issue.
Now the television money has become, again, drip, drip.
Drip is right.
It's just like the cable, people cutting cable.
But did you see what the Sun's owner did this week?
I loved it.
Awesome.
I think we should see more billionaires doing this for the teams you own.
Yeah, these NBA guys making all this money.
Matt, what's the last name?
Ishpia from the sons.
Basically said $2 menu for food.
For everything.
I thought it was great.
That's amazing.
One of my favorite.
Dude, bro, I went to the Chargers game.
Do you know how much a beer cost that an end?
NFL's football game? No, $18 for one drink.
And then like three tacos are like $25.
I mean, Colin, the prices are exorbitant.
But hand it to these guys.
They're business guys.
They're making tons of money.
That's all they care about.
I think there are lines in the sand we're getting close to crossing.
And we're not fans, all this TV streamer money is great.
That's 30% of the revenue.
The other 30% before you get to marketing and merchandise,
and parking and sales and tickets and sweets.
It's regular guys going to games.
Regular people going to games.
So the TV money pays a lot of the bills.
It doesn't pay all of them.
It doesn't pay all of them.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, new?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called,
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We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast.
We could call in and say, hey Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
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I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
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A special day of football tomorrow on Fox.
Catch the next chapter in a bitter historic rivalry.
Russell Wilson and the Steelers take on Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.
It all kicks off tomorrow at 4 Eastern on Fox.
So it's really an interesting game for a lot of reasons.
It's always very close.
Steelers are big underdogs,
and Tomlin is the best underdog coach of his generation.
So Russell Wilson's playing for a million two a year.
He's the steel in the league because Denver's paying them all that money.
So if you watch the hard knocks thing that's going on in season,
You can tell he loves Pittsburgh, and he and Sierra, they found a place that likes them.
And this game's really interesting.
It feels it's very important because Lamar Jackson, the two-time MVP,
maybe the MVP this year's on the other side of the field.
So you can kind of juxtapose the two and say, okay, here's what a star looks like.
How close is Russell to that?
So in the two games without George Pickens,
Russell has thrown for 158 yards against Cleveland and 128 yards against Philly.
I don't mind paying my quarterback, but I'm going to struggle paying my quarterback if he is tied.
His production is overwhelmingly tied to one receiver.
And without pickens, it's not the same offense.
So this story has always been, from the very beginning of this story, even in the summer we talked about it.
The Steelers season was all about December 1st on.
They had the hardest six-game stretch I'd ever seen to end this season.
It was at Joe Burrow, at Philly, at Baltimore, Kansas City, Joe Burrow.
And it not only will define the Steelers season, because, I mean, we all know Pittsburgh's pretty good,
but I think it will define the future of Russell Wilson.
So if he's going toe to toe with Burrow, and he looks like easily the second best quarterback,
and then tomorrow, easily the second best quarterback, and he's absolutely beholden to George Pickens,
you know, is this thing just going to be a fling
or is Pittsburgh going to put a ring on it?
And that's what it kind of feels like to me.
So Mike Tomlin talked about the relationship
and on facing the Ravens this weekend.
Really excited about this opportunity.
For obvious reasons, it's a divisional game.
It's a road divisional game.
It's Baltimore.
And I understand the nature of this rivalry
and the amount of attention that it brings
and it's exciting and humbling to be a part of it.
We're highly familiar with these guys, but the same thing could be said, I'm sure for them,
they're highly familiar with us.
I think that's what makes these games so exciting.
I will say Russ has this going for him.
For the previous five years, Pittsburgh's offense was a tough watch.
The last year with Big Ben, then there's Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubiskey.
He gives them some juice.
And we always know Pittsburgh drafts, well, they develop well.
They're well-coached.
They're inspired, a great underdog team.
The question, no, in a division with Burrow and Lamar Jackson,
you've got put points up.
You just got put points up.
And they've had great success against Lamar.
But if you want to win, there's just too many good quarterbacks.
You're watching Herbert in the second half.
If you want to start winning multiple playoff games,
you've got to have some juice.
The best quarterbacks in the league are in the AFC.
And so I do think Russell gives them not only juice,
but he gives them kind of clarity.
He's kind of a loose.
though not as much as it used to be.
He throws a beautiful deep ball
better than the previous four quarterbacks.
So Jordan Schultz was on,
he was on an hour ago.
And, you know,
what he's hearing is,
this thing may become semi-long-term.
Before this season,
when they moved on from Kenny Pickett,
the Steelers really wanted to make sure
that they could find not just a bridge,
but potentially a long-term solution.
They'd bring a Justin Fields,
they bring in Russell Wilson. I think they believe they have found that solution with Russell Wilson.
We have seen a version of Russell Wilson that compares favorably to Seattle Russell.
The biggest thing that Russell has going for him is the relationship with Mike Tomlin.
And because of that, that dates way back to when they met for multiple hours before Russ signed,
Tomlin really advocated him to ownership, said this is the guy I can build around.
So Russell Wilson's got a very unique career.
The Seattle years were, he was excellent, but he always felt a little overlooked and disrespected.
You know, he kind of felt like Pete got the credit, Marshawn Lynch, Richard Sherman, the defense got the credit.
So Russell was very good, but he mostly felt overlooked.
But it worked.
The Denver experiment, be the savior, did not work at all.
That's not what Russell is.
The Pittsburgh situation is actually the best of both, where they do need him clearly.
So it's got a Denver field.
They need him.
But like Seattle, they're really good when it comes to the other stuff beyond quarterback.
They draft well, they develop well.
They get after the opposing quarterback.
So I feel like you got a little Seattle where he doesn't have to be the savior.
you have a little Denver where there is true value.
Like he's going to change this thing.
He's going to make it better the offense.
So because Denver for years, we got to be fair here before Russell Wilson,
they had a quarterback issue.
They were starting to feel like Chicago.
You're like they can't get quarterback right.
So I think there's basically two levels of quarterback contracts in the NFL.
There's the sign them early.
Herbert, Burrow, Lamar, Mahomes, Alan, Stafford, just get it done.
Then there's the, for the time being, he's our best option.
We like him.
We don't love him.
And I think that that is kind of in the Russell where we're going to spend some Brock Purdy.
We like him.
We know his limitations.
Russell Wilson, we like him.
He helps us.
He's necessary.
We also know he's past his prime.
I think Sam Darnold could get into that.
like teams
Indianapolis are going to like him
they don't think he's Mahomes or Allen
so and my take
is the Jordan Love has moved into
the big class that one I don't
doubt but I think Russell falls into
the Brock Purdy Sam Darnold's next team
situation there's absolute
value but let's not get
silly here let's not get crazy I don't want
to see any fives
I don't want to see five and I'm going to push back on the
four
may have to start with a three
Hour three next.
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