The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - New NFL predictions

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Colin gives his latest NFL predictions following the NFL draft PSU's Abdul Carter asking Lawrence Taylor for retired jersey shows a lack of awareness   Guest: Nick WrightSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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my take is, before I get to my NFL predictions and Nick Wright, is the Celtics culture is so paralyzed by threes now. And it's a very strong culture from Danny Aange, Udoka, Missoula, Brad Stevens, and Tatum is such a collaborative player that instead of beating people off the dribble, which he could, he gets very much into a, hey, I'm going to stay, be part of the team, I'm going to take threes, and I thought last night was a prime example of sometimes even Phil Jackson, the Zen Master of the Triangle,

I'm going to let Michael and Kobe impose their will. They're going to do what they're going to do. Lawrence Taylor, line up where you've got to line up, make plays happen. I think sometimes Tatum, who can beat almost everybody in this league on the wing off the dribble, settles because he's collaborative. We have threes. The Celtics are last in the NBA in free throws and third worst in layups. And they just stick to threes. And when they have these bad night shooting them, warriors used to have these. They just keep shooting them. And I'm like, no, Tatum, get open, get me buckets. I don't care where they're at. Eight straight possessions. Impose your will.

But again, collaborative, smart, great kid, Duke kid. I'm going to be part of the team. We shoot threes here. I don't like it. Okay, so I do this four times before a start of a season. When there's coaching changes and free agencies done, I give an NFL prediction. Then after the draft, yes, drafts matter. I make another prediction. Then after camp or during camps, I'll make a prediction. And then right before the season, the Thursday of the season, I make my final prediction.

So I've got a lot of changes, but most at the bottom. of divisions. So let's start with the AFC. So the easiest, I would bet my car on this one. Bills win it, dominant quarterback, not close and well coached. Patriots, I've said this, they will be the Washington of the NFL. I predicted Washington and Denver would be the most improved teams. I'm predicting the Patriots will be the most improved team. Drake May actually has a coach, and they've made major upgrades O&D line. Dolphins aren't good, they're going backwards, but I'll take them over the Jets where I don't like anything. All right, next up, the AFC North.

Even if Aaron Rogers shows up, they're not beating the Ravens or Bingles. Browns, I think, are looking for a quarterback Archmanning in next year's draft. I like their GM, Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefansky don't like ownership. I feel pretty good about this. AFC South, I'm going to make a change. I think the Texans win it going away, and the Titans are a wildcard team. I will take the Jaguars third and I'll move the Colts down to fourth. I don't know who's playing quarterback to the Colts.

My guess is Daniel Jones wins eventually. But the Jaguars, to their credit, got the best player in the draft in Travis Hunter. He will make an impact. They upgraded their offensive line significantly. So again, it's not much, but I'll take the Jaguars third and the Colts fourth. And in the AFC West, I feel the same way. It's inches, not feet. I think the Chargers embodied, empowered their run game, and they're going to be a ball control offense

with two great tackles, a great coach, a great quarterback, and two excellent running backs. They also upgraded it tight end. I think they're going to be not as much sizzle as you may want, but they're just going to ground teams. It'll be classic Jim Harbaugh in year two. You will be looking at a team that is completely different than they were two years ago. Chiefs still win 10 to 11, maybe 12, but they've been a second Broncos and Raiders. Didn't love the Broncos draft. So my AFC playoff predictions, Bill's Ravens, Texans, Chargers, Patriots, Bengals are new, and Chiefs.

We go to the NFC now where I do have more changes. Eagles commanders going away. I'm going to put the Giants at third and the Cowboys at fourth. I thought the Giants actually got impact guys in the draft. I thought Scataboo, the running back, will absolutely make an impact. And Abdul Carter, hate that he's asking for Lawrence Taylor's jersey, but he's going to be an impact guy. They've already got a good D-line. It'll be even better.

Cowboys hiring Brian Schottnheimer. Big mistake. Very deck-reliant. I go Cowboys in the cell. Next up, NFC North. I'm keeping it the same. I think the Bears eke into the playoffs. I think Jordan Love, I like.

I think they're worried about them. That's why I went a receiver in the first round. They're not quite sure they can trust Christian Watson's health. They've got to make this Jordan Love thing work. So they had a couple of other needs defensively, and they went wide receiver again. Vikings will be a very good fourth place team. I think letting Sam Darnold go, I think they may regret it. All right, I have another change.

I'm going to move Tampa from second to first to win their division. I like their draft. I always like their draft. I did not like the Atlanta Falcons draft, and I don't know what Michael Pennix is. By the way, I thought Emeka Igbuka to that receiving core and that offense, he will be an 80 catch guy potentially as a rookie. I think he, every GM I talked to when I said, did anybody reach? for a mecca. They're like, no. That guy could have been the fifth pick and it's a smart

pick. He will deliver day one. Bryce Young's improved, Saints, they're done. And finally, yeah, you can see it. I think the Rams are going to win it. I think Seattle's defense, I thought Seattle had the best draft in the NFL. I thought Arizona and Cleveland had the second best draft. Arizona's defense is going to be a handful. Their offense is fine also. Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray now go to a second year together. That matters. I don't like what I see with the Niners. I did not like their draft at all. I think when you look at the Niners' draft, I see Kyle Shanahan taking some reaches here to help him and not the future. He wants to win now. I didn't like the Niners draft at all. I'm not saying they're a five-win team,

but I think Arizona can win 10 to 11 games. So my playoff picture in the NFC, Eagles, Lions, Bucks, Rams, commanders, bears, Seahawks. Nick Wright, first things first, yeah, he's not going to be happy. We know that going in. By the way. So bad. It's just, can I, do you realize what you did there? You did two things there.

What? Hi, Colin. Hi. One is, you have seven of the eight division winners from last year, winning their division again. with the one exception being a team whose quarterback has won the division every year of his career and this is not a misquote

is a career 35 and 5 against divisional opponents. That's the first thing you did that I think you're going to want back. The second thing you did was more indirect, but from listening to your own words, you have the Arizona Cardinals the New England Patriots and the Kansas City Chiefs all winning the same amount of games. That doesn't feel dumb to you. I hate to use that word, but doesn't just on its face that feel like, you know what?

Maybe I need to recalibrate this one just a touch. Just a touch if I have the Chiefs in the same bucket as the Cardinals and the Patriots. Just an idea. Well, I'll give it some thought. I've still got two more, you know. Yeah, exactly. I mean, when you put it that way, it is fairly egregious. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, it is. And everyone else. Oh, God knows, you can't. Every other division winners earn the benefit for the doubt, except for a team that won 17 games last year and has been to three straight Super Bowls. But they looked bad in the Super Bowl. How did the Chargers look in their Super Bowl, which is called the Wild Card Round,

when your golden boy Herbert threw more picks than he did all year. But never mind. It's fine. Whatever. Go ahead. Okay, so let's have some fun. So I defended Tatum. This was an easy day for my brand to come in and bury him. But I said that the Celtics are a little like the Warriors. They're paralyzed by the three-point shot. At least the Warriors in their prime had like a different player, Draymond Green.

And he could sometimes be the catalyst, and even though it was small ball, they can have kind of a different look sometimes. Tatum is such a good guy and so collaborative. And he's got great handles. He's 6-8. He could beat anybody in the league, including Mikhail Bridges, to the basket. But I find their culture is so overwhelmingly shoot a three that a couple of times he beat guys off the dribble, and he backed out and shot a bad off-balance three.

And I thought, he's such a good guy that he's not going to impose his will. He's taking three-pointers. This team was last in the league in free throws. Third last in layups. They play one way. And I think Tatum's too gifted to say, this is what you've got to be offensively. I think I'm giving them a little pass that some of this is this paralyization in Boston of you can only score one way.

Well, listen, it might end up being smart. They won the championship doing it last year. Last night, they missed 45 threes, and they're still in overtime. And so I don't, stylistically, I don't enjoy it as much as I watch different, as much as I enjoy watching different styles of play. And I would hate it if the entire league moves to that so much so that I would think the league might need to adjust how it does three-pointers similar to how baseball made adjustments. Because I don't think it's as good of a viewing experience. In regards to Tatum, listen, Tatum is going to have nights like this in the playoffs. We know that. He's also going to have stretches like he had at the end of last series where he's scoring 35 every single night those final three games.

I have one real gripe with Tatum last night. Guys are going to miss shots. It happens. I thought the final possession of regulation, he let the Knicks off the hook. In a tie game, the fact that he was just content to dribble out the shot clock essentially and then take a tough third. I thought was a mistake. I think that in that setting, where you're not going to be able to hold for the last shot because there was a four or five second differential, I think that's the one right there.

I just think you can get a better look for yourself or a teammate. I don't think you should ever treat a possession with 15 seconds left in a tie game the exact way you would treat it if you're trailing by two, and that's to me what he did. So I thought that was a mistake, but I do like, like, this is where you're great.

Tatum might score 38 in game two, and that'll be the day you're like, listen, he's really good, but he's not great. And then he has a terrible game, and you're like, let me let him off the hook. He's too nice, too nice of a guy. And so I also didn't love, can I say something about the Knicks or are we moving on? No, I don't think they're going to win another game in the series, but go ahead. So they might not. The flip side is, if they can get one more, they guarantee themselves a game six at Madison Square Garden,

which will be the biggest basketball game played in that arena, professional game this century. It will be the biggest Knicks game at home since the run to the finals in 99. But here's what is so exciting for the Knicks about Steve. feeling that win yesterday. They built an entire team, Colin, around this series. Every move they made in the off-season, they traded for OG so they had someone who could guard Tatum and Brown. They traded for Mikhail Bridges so they had someone could guard Tatum and Brown. They then broke up the Villanova Corps before they even let them all play

together after getting Mikhail to move off Julius Randall to bring in Carl Anthony Towns with the idea being, you guys have five quality to great starters in Boston, we're going to have the same thing in New York. All of it is building, they built an entire team with just the Celtics in mind, similar to how the Rockets used to build their team with the Warriors in mind. That's the team we have to get through. And now, after getting annihilated, the first three times they played in the regular season, they played them at the end of the regular season, went to overtime, and they lost.

They played them last night. He went to overtime and they won. It would be so disastrous for the Knicks to get run off the court in this series, the way Vegas thought they would, the way I think you and I both probably thought they would. Stealing that first game and now putting real pressure on Boston, that Boston's got to feel like we need to win the next three. Or else we are guaranteeing that this is going at least six to MSG. And so I thought it was an awesome win for a team that built their needs.

entire roster with this one series in mind. So before I get to the Warriors, I want to talk Lakers for a second. You had a very interesting take, and I gave you credit for this yesterday. I thought it was, I think Bumani and you both had something similar, where you talked about, if you go back to JJ Redic at Duke, never won a title, had his worst game in March in a pressurized situation. It was a great shooter. It had a terrible game.

And so I watched your rant, and then I went to his NBA career stats playoff in regular season. Same thing. Never hit a big shot in the playoff. of note. It's like, wow, he was significantly less of a player. And then you watch him coaching, and he, I thought he got worked. And I thought to myself, well, if you had a short temper as a human being at work, you probably have it at home. We do carry over personality traits. He's always been this great-looking, really smart, really talented guy who clearly puts a ton of self-imposed pressure. Right? Like, he, nobody else. It's JJ

on JJ. And I think it was an interesting take that, hey, maybe, maybe you're going to see him coached like he played a little bit here. And I don't think that's a crazy take, is it? No, listen, I think that there are certain guys who get tight. And I think some people reflectively thought that it was unfair for me to bring up 19-year-old JJ Reddick and his performance in the Sweet 16 in talking about 40-year-old JJ Redick in his performance in his first playoffs coaching. But he has an entire 20-year basketball history of. He is at his worst when the stakes are the highest. And I think that is purely because he's wound a little too tight. Yeah. I think you saw it before game five when he was snapping at the report.

for asking totally reasonable questions, where he is actually projecting, where he says to the reporter, oh, are you saying that because I'm inexperienced when the reporter said nothing about his lack of experience? I think that sometimes you are who you are, and the good thing about being a coach versus being a player is, if you're a player who gets tight in big moments, that can physically manifest itself in a way. that he's not playing, I really think it's like about meditation and outlook and things he can do to just

not be wound quite so tight. Yes. Because I do think JJ was excellent this year. So do I. Obviously he puts the work in. Obviously he's sharp. But when you have a long track record of seizing

up in the biggest moments, by the way it's no anyone that's shocked by a James Harden stinker in a game seven. Yeah. That's another guy. Go look at his two in CAA tournament games. This has been who he's been since Arizona State,

where he's at his worst in the biggest moments. Yeah. I think as a coach he can adjust, but that takes a self-awareness that I think maybe JJ is lacking just a bit. So, um, I was saying this earlier and it goes kind of counterintuitive, but what people would think is I'm a Dubbs fan and I love Steph and everybody does. I said privately the minute Adam Silver sign that $76 billion a deal.

It's up to NBC, ESPN, and Amazon to figure out how to make money on that. He's looking to the next negotiation, and he doesn't want the eight best players to be international. He needs a domestic face. It's not a survival, but it helps. Aaron Judge hitting 400. Rob Manfred is sleeping very well right now with the Yank, right? So I said, privately, if you asked Adam Silver, he'd be like, hey, LeBron and Steph didn't play last night. It was, you couldn't keep your eyes off the NBA.

I want Ant to win. I think privately, he is saying, handsome, got the Riz, great, he's knocked out KD, he's knocked out Booker, he's knocked out Luca, he's knocked out Yokic. I think privately, the league wants Minnesota to win. they've squeezed Steph and the Warriors. They've squeezed the juice. I think the league wants Minnesota to advance. And I think it helps. I think it would be, I think that it would be better for them long term, for sure.

I think one of the mistakes the league has made from a programming standpoint is a short-term thinking as far as, well, the Lakers and the Warriors get the biggest number. So put them in the regular season in the prime slots, and they haven't conditioned the audience to look at Shea as a superstar, to look at, you know, hell, I'll go to Palo Boncaro as a future superstar. Ant, obviously, now, Ant's gone on these playoff runs to where he has forced the issue, making the conference finals last year and this year knocking out Luke and LeBron. I also think it doesn't much matter who the league wants to win. It's not the David Stern NBA where we got a ref we can call in and be like,

hey, man, we need 11,000 in the first quarter on the Sacramento game. Lakers got to keep it moving. But I, regardless of who the league wants to win, I do not know how anyone could have watched round one and feel like the Warriors are in a good position in this match. Oh, I think they're in big trouble. Big trouble. I think they're in huge trouble, Colin.

Minnesota can do to Golden State what Houston did on the defensive end, but they've got guys who can score on the offensive end. And if Stephen Adams gave you massive trouble, what about new and improved Rudy Gobert? And there is the other element of Draymond already being on a knife's edge of flagrant foul and technical accumulation to where he's staring at another postseason suspension. So this reminds me, Colin, a ton of the playoffs two years ago when the Warriors were in a brutal seven-game season. against a young, fun Sacramento Kings team. Steph in that game seven had 50.

They got through it, and then they were dead on arrival against the Lakers. Now, again, a lot of NBA Twitter has pretended that series didn't happen because the new narrative is this is Steph's era, but the Stephen LeBron played two years ago in the playoffs, Lakers handled them pretty quickly. I think a similar thing's going to happen here. I think Minnesota wins tonight.

I think Minnesota is the more rested team. We're rested team, obviously the deeper team. I think they are the healthier team, and I think they're the better team. And I think this is a really tough matchup for Golden State. By the way, I didn't prep you on this at all, but I'm going to throw this out there. You're younger than me, and so maybe your generation is different. But when guys say you've got to shoot your shot, and I always think, oh, really? So Abdul Carter's like, hey, I'm going to ask to see if I can get Lawrence Taylor's jersey.

It's like, no, time out. I think less of you asking. And I think when guys always say you've got to shoot your shot, well, does that mean if I looked like George Clooney and flew jet stream or Gulf streams everywhere, I could just hit on your wife, hey, you got to shoot your shot. No, there are certain things you do at a basic decency in the world

that you don't do. Like you don't, if I invite you and your wife to a party and you say, hey, you couldn't find a babysitter, can I bring my kids and you tell me this five minutes before? I'd be like, well, okay, but, you know, I don't really have. Correct, right, right. So this idea that you should just ask,

Drake May should just ask if he can wear Brady or Abdul Carter should ask if you can wear Lawrence. I am bothered by the ask of it. Am I just an old man? Yes, you are an old man, but you are correct on this. And you and I are sidebar different generations. One thing, our two generations, though, have in common, Colin, is neither one of us should be.

on television saying the word Riz. So I don't know when you added that one to your vernacular, but let's put that one back in the drawer. But on this specific point, you're 100% correct. And I'm going to take it a step further. You are right that the idea of, oh, there's no harm in asking is just anathema to how human beings work.

Like go to a job interview and midway through it, be like, by the way, unlimited vacation, I figured I'd ask. Like, no, that's not how adult human beings work. I am adding something to it, though. In the NFL, when a guy goes to a team and someone else has the number he wants, normally the ask involves,

and I'll give you a hundred grand, or buy you a car, or something like that. I'm even more bothered that these asks didn't include some signing bonus money. Like Abdul Carter, your number three pick. Like if you call up Lawrence Saylor like, hey, I want to win, I want to wear 56, and here's a quarter of a

million dollars, maybe there's a conversation. You would ask if there was someone on the Giants wearing the number he wanted, that guy would be offered money. So if you're going to ask the greatest defensive player ever and just ask him to do it as a favor,

that's even worse. But yes, I agree with you. Also, last point on this, Mitch Schwartz made this point, I think a few other people haven't. It's smart. It shouldn't even be, if a team has retired a number, that shouldn't even be allowed. Like, even if Lawrence had said yes, the Giants need to be out in front of this being like, no, it's a retired number. It's not about Lawrence. We retired it. You can't have it because we're not on retiring. That way you take the onus of Lawrence Taylor and Phil Sin. his family but yeah i i didn't like the ass guy there i'll be honest with you one last thing

you do realize why i use riz i don't because i stand on business okay see this is i don't know i don't know why this is become a thing but you uh maybe your maybe you've gotten to a point to where it's like the circle is completed so you can just say anything and And it's not cringe, it's just charming. But I'm telling you right now, I don't need Colin Coward talking about Riz or standing on business. I don't need it. Maybe the audience does. Good scene to go, buddy.

All right. Yeah, boy, that really gets me all worked up about just asking. I said, if you work at Fox and it's your first week, hey, do you mind if I park in the CEO's parking spot? Hey, got to shoot your shot. Yeah, you know, let me take a. that application, we'll be hiring somebody else. There's certain questions and certain things you just don't do. You don't get Tom Cruise's parking spot at Paramount or whoever's making his movies.

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weeks ago after they went after him for not drafting a receiver. Well, the Bills just signed Elijah Moore. Former Jet Receiver Underwhelmed. He was okay in Cleveland. He's okay. He's okay. He's a number four, number... Yeah, he's a number three or four. Yeah, he's a rotational guy. He's

fired up about a chance in Buffalo. For me, it's more like my whole career. I haven't really had, you know, too many great opportunities with a stable quarterback the entire season. I just feel like having, you know, being blessed with the opportunity to, God willing, have 17 for the entire season, the MVP at that, a top tier caliber player, top tier caliber team, top tier caliber coaches, putting you in position. I feel like it would just be the best position that I've been put in yet.

Yeah, I think he'll do fine. I think anybody that plays with Josh Allen if they work hard and are coachable will flourish. like playing with Lamar, Mahalms, or Stafford. You can find a lot of guys off the street that can play. I mean, they put Juju Smith-Schuster with toast in New England. He went to Kansas City in the Super Bowl. They're targeting him nine times. The quarterback leads the receiver.

I kind of know how he feels, because, you know, when he started his career, who was Zach Wilson. Awesome. I feel in New York. I feel bad for, I've said this before. It's not just quarterbacks. Where are you, now there are certain positions, like running back, you're either good or you're not.

Like, Jemir Gibbs is better with Detroit's online. I don't know. I think Juan Barclay in New York was okay. It was not amazing, and then he goes to the Eagles. But he was viewed in the league as a... He's really good. Yeah. He's elite now.

Yeah, when I started my career, I did a TV show with a guy who's just the worst human being ever. I was awful. Now I'm with you, and I feel like Elijah Moore with Josh Allen. Hey, man, I got a superstar with me. No, I just, I do think quarterbacks lead. Pooka Nakua is not putting up these numbers, with 20 of the quarterbacks. Now, maybe he is with Mahomes.

Is he with Bryce Young? Well, yeah, I mean, just like McVey and Stafford in a good old line. It's remarkable how good you are as a rookie receiver. Remember Stafford in Detroit was thought of as a kind of a bust. He threw for a lot of guards and didn't win anything. He was known as sort of a stat guy, but not a winner. He never won a playoff game in Detroit. And I was like, is he good?

He was the number one pick. Goes to the Rams and he's like, oh, this is what life is life is life. But the people in the league, the smart guys knew he was good. He was good, yeah, but you go number one overall. you got to win some playoff games, Colin. He had none. Now, he should have won in Dallas. I had money on that.

I'm sure you remember it. Some questionable calls, shall we say? Anyways, let's move on to another draft story. And that's Will Johnson, who you loved that of Michigan. Really talented kid. All-American fell out of the first round. Don't get it. Medical issues.

Arizona steals it. Yeah, Arizona grabs him in the second round. He said that he's about to kill. You're going to have to pay for bleep. I promise you, Arizona is getting a guy. dog. Yep. I like this thing. He was my favorite corner. The knock on him is he gets hurt a lot. That's a fair knock. But let me ask you, if he played 14 games a year for the next, for his contract, would you take? Yeah. And also, the league now plays zone. Everybody's playing zone.

He's a great zone corner. He's not a burner. He can shut down your two. If you have a, not that many teams are throwing the ball over the top because there's not that many good old line. If I say great O line in the NFL, you'll name Detroit and Philly. You'll know who it is because there's so few great O lines. So that doesn't allow a lot of quarterbacks to go downtown a lot. And the other thing is the league's playing zone. That's why Puka Nakua comes in. He can read the zone.

He's open constantly. I forgot. Did you have Arizona playoff team? No, I have. But I have them as a – I think they're going to be one of the more improved teams in the league. The only problem is the NFC has that NFC North where there could be three teams in the playoff. I'll just say it now. The NFC North is good, but I think in the building, Matt LaFleur was disappointed with Jordan Love at the end of last year.

That's why they drafted a receiver because they got to get this right. He got dinged up a few times. He did, but he was not, and I like him, he was not as consistent. And you can tell people, like in Ben Johnson in Chicago, you can tell what the Bears are doing with their draft. They're saying, listen, we need to find out of Caleb's Ed. So there are going to be no excuses. We have two tight ends, two receivers, two running backs. There's going to be no excuses.

Right? Like, that's the way to do it. What Chicago is doing is we're not going to leave him a little shorthand than go. I mean, like, you knew Justin Herbert. Even if he wasn't getting to the playoffs, you're like, yeah, that works. You knew it with Josh Allen. You knew it with Lamar. But with Caleb, you're like, there's a lot of people that just do not like his footwork

and do not think he's patient enough to be a great quarterback. So I do think there is value in finding out if your quarterback is the guy by year two. Well, I don't think this is going to be it for Caleb. He's definitely going to get a third year. Yeah. First year with Ben Johnson Learning Curve. I think Bryce Young and Kyler Murray are the guys to keep an eye on after this year. Final story, Colin, is we talked a lot about Chador Sanders falling down draft boards.

Well, one of his receivers at Colorado, the gentleman by. the name of La Jante Wester spoke about Chidor while Wester was at Baltimore's minicamp. He's a rookie. I was disappointed that they did him like that. I know Chador is going to get in the lab. He's going to work hard and he's going to win that job in Cleveland. Now, obviously, he's a little biased knowing Shadour. I'll be surprised if he wins the starting job in Cleveland.

That would shock me. It would surprise me. It wouldn't shock me. That quarterback room leaves a lot to be desired. What about the grounds waiting until the fifth round of drafted? Well, that's the thing. Doesn't that tell you that staff is like, not for us? Well, that's the owner saying that is for us.

So who runs the show there? The coach and GM are the owner? Why did they draft Johnny Mansell? Why did they give Deshaun a guaranteed deal? Why did they draft should do her? Maybe the owner's not throw his weight around. But he does. It's tough to tell that to a billionaire.

But, uh, yeah. So they have here, do you think Shador's starting more than six games? Yes. No, I think it's on six. I shouldn't say that. Six. I think it's about six. No shot.

None. You know, can I just say this? Six? If you had dropped from the third pick in the draft to the six, and I'm asking you, you've dropped five rounds, it's now like embarrassing. What would your reaction be if you were

drafted. Would it be ultimate excitement jumping in a pool? Or kind of like, pissed. Like Aaron Rogers, you're going to pay for that. Will Johnson. What is Will Johnson say? The league will pay for that mistake. Shitter's like, hey, it's the best day ever. It's like, dude, little self-awareness. You just got embarrassed for three days during the draft. But even if it doesn't work out from in Cleveland, you know what? Shador's going to have a soft landing. His family's wealthy. He's got, he's got to made a lot of N-I-M money. It's going to be fine. That's fine.

He's going to be fine. It's just an interesting reaction. I'm not saying it's the wrong reaction, but Will Johnson's reaction is what great players. Players that become great, Will Johnson is mad at the NFL. Aaron Rogers was mad. Tom Brady went to Robert Kraft, the best draft pick you've ever made. Guys that drop in the draft, the great ones, have a mission. They are going to play.

And every team that passed on them, they will remember that for the rest of their career. They're not like overwhelmingly happening. They are resolute and, okay, all right, I dropped to the fifth. See in camp. I just think it, I'm not saying what shouldered it is wrong, but I think if I fell that far, I would be so angry and so, so absolute laser focused on not only winning that job, winning it in two weeks.

Well, he might be, but maybe that was him putting up a front to act like he's unbothered. You know, I would do the same, right? The young, young Colin. I'm not saying what he did is wrong. I'm saying it's just an interesting discussion. Like, he's jumping into pool. He's like, this is the greatest thing. It's like I would have been so...

Will Johnson, in your previous story, is what guys I've heard in the NFL. Matt, you'd be amazed how often I talk to a pro. Somebody in pro sports doesn't always have to be the athlete, and they're like, so many of the great players have a chip on their shoulder. I mean, and I'm talking 17 years into their... career. They're still mad at the team that passed on them. By the way, when I hosted for you one time, Aaron Jones, the running back of the Vikings was in here and during the commercial, I'm talking to him. And he was still seething about the Packers moving on for him.

Furious. Yeah, it's like, dude, I can't believe they did that. People always say, people always say in life, don't take it personal. Well, it is personal. Yeah. If I dropped to the fifth round and Cleveland passed on me four times, I'm going to that camp to show Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry, you made a massive mistake. And then let him know, And by the way, I'm going to be great, and by year three, I'm going to go and say, it's time for a contract early. I'm just saying that's how a lot of players act. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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Again, should you, just because you're great-looking, maybe you're very successful and charming, should you be hitting on married women? You're a creep. Like, way, I'm just going to shoot my... shot no not really abdul carter just asking for laurence taylor's jersey just the ask to me is a total non-starter and a lack of self-awareness and nick wright agreed in the nfelll when a guy goes to a team and someone else is has the number he wants normally the ask involves and I'll give you a hundred grand or buy you a car or something like that.

I'm even more bothered that these asks didn't include some signing bonus money. Like Abdul Carter, your number three pick. Like if you call up Lawrence Saylor like, hey, I want to win, I want to wear 56 and here's a quarter of a million dollars, maybe there's a conversation. Like even if Lawrence had said yes, the giants need to be out in front of this being like, no. it's a retired number. Yeah, totally agree on this. It's just, I'm sorry, just the idea that, you know,

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Because it's a turnoff, a lot of the times that you just ask and think you have the right to ask. The other thing is, so I did my NFL predictions. I got two more chances, two more wax before the season starts, and I make them now free agency is over, coaching's over, the draft is over. But if you go look at my AFC, I'll just, if you're on radio, instead of breaking down the teams, I'll just tell you, here's the quarterbacks in the AFC, I think, win their division.

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Yeah, I'll tell you the four. Stafford, Darnold, Kyler, and Brock Purdy. Ranked them. You just did. Stop it. You don't think Sam Donald's better than Brock Purdy, do you?

Yeah. Oh, come on, Colin. Bigger, stronger, better our moves better. Oh, my gosh. You think Brock Pretty would have put up those numbers last year? In Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson? Of course he would have. Wait, you're being serious now.

We're having some quarterback tension on the set today. Darnell is a bigger... The first T.J. Stroud over hurts. Donald doesn't struggle when it's overcast. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Okay. The minute Darnal got a functional operation, not even a great team. He put up unbelievable number.

The Vikings weren't even a great team. They were just functional. The minute he's out of Carolina and the jets, and he gets a functional organization. Now you can have me say negative stuff. The minute he has an important game late in the season, he folds like a cheap table. Because Minnesota's roster was just...

Oh, yeah. The roster's limited, yeah. Sort of like when Brock's roster ended up being less than because of injuries, it had a losing record. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Minnesota was healthy at the end of the season. Why does you go run back? Their roster wasn't great. Their O line was okay.

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