The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - NFL, NBA Finals

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

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It's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. It's an absolute pleasure to have you in today. And Joy Taylor is joining me in Celtic Green, it should be noted. You know, I purposely did not wear this yesterday. I don't know, Joy. Because I didn't want to be associated with the Celtics because I really like this color.

It is, yeah, I guess it's Celtic. Kind of. I think it's more hunter. Might as well be Brad Stevens I'm sitting next to over there with the Celtic Green. You know, I can admit, Celtics aren't my favorite brand. I'm a heat fan. Yeah. We've had our bouts throughout the years.

But I find this team so likable. That's so hard. I think it's a great. So here's an interesting thing. One of the things that drives me nuts in America today with the media, this is my problem with the media. And I don't care if it's Fox News or MSNBC, everybody's opinions always go to the side that benefits their political opinion. Like right now, the NBA ratings through two games, the ratings are terrible.

And wouldn't you know it, everybody's going to blame the NBA relationship with China. It doesn't have anything to do with that. The playoff ratings were unbelievable. The reason the final ratings have, after being great in the playoffs, what changed? Kids got out of school. We've all been locked up for two years. But we were watching the NBA playoffs. when our kids were still in school.

Then our kids got out of school, and for the first time in two years, we could vacation. Try to book an airline flight right now. It's $1,000 to fly to Vegas from L.A. I could hitchhike there in three hours. Why? Because airlines, no. The demand for tickets.

Try to book a hotel late. See what you get. I've got multiple friends right now today. I've got friends either getting back from vacation, on vacation, or going on vacation. And I'm going on one in seven, eight days. days. The reality is the NBA ratings were fantastic in the playoffs until the finals, when you have the two best teams. Why? It has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with America

was locked inside for years. And by the way, I booked three different flights to Europe. They all got canceled until the recent one. So people have all the, all this, you know, bottled up enthusiasm to travel and they haven't been able to. to and now their kids get out of school and they are gone for the summer. By the way, we now more than ever work remotely. So you can go on vacation with your kids and still work. So that's a reality of it. So the minute school ends, that's why the ratings have tanked. It's not because of your affiliation, conservative, liberal, anti-this and anti-that. Believe it or not, most stuff happens, and it's not because of your political affiliation or mine.

It just happens. That's why the finals are going down. I've been doing this for 30 years. I can tell you why they're up and why they're down with a lot of accuracy. It's not a political thing. The last three weeks before the finals, the NBA ratings were 23% up, but everybody's kids were in school. So you had to sit at home.

You were home. We also don't have, we only really have one crossover star, meaning Steph Curry. Yeah. The average sports fan that doesn't really follow the NBA closely during the regular season or those fringe fans that you want to get for the NBA finals is only really Steph Curry. Boston doesn't have one of those stars. They have stars, but to NBA fans. So you're lacking that bit of controversy as well.

Yeah, Janus against Steph would probably, Durant against Steph, would probably be better. We know baseball needs the Yankees. College football is always better if there's an Ohio State or a Notre Dame involved. outside of the NFL, everybody needs a little some help to get huge ratings during the postseason. Albert Breer, he's Mr. Ratings for us. Monday morning quarterback covered the NFL for 15 years. Okay, let's start with this. I said this about these quarterbacks now, Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson.

You can tell me that they're not healthy at the end of the year. You can tell me that Lamar's quarterback passer rating is plummeting. Here's what I know. Replaceability. Baltimore is a fourth place team without Lamar and the Cardinals are a fourth place team without Kyler. So there's all this, I think the Ravens have to pay Lamar and the Cardinals have to pay Kyler.

And I think they have to do it now. You're always better to pay early than late. Where are we with the Cardinals and Lamar on their contracts? Well, I can start with Lamar. I think the Ravens have really left this up to him. And I know they're going to be very careful about it. For those that don't know, Lamar doesn't have an agent. So this is going to be the Ravens negotiating directly with Lamar Jackson.

And because of that, they've been really sensitive to, you know, his own level of trust with the team here. And that's why they're saying it's up to Lamar when he wants to sit down and talk, then we'll talk. And they're also, you know, fully cognizant, this isn't going to be a normal negotiation where you come in and you may low ball a player. You can't do that when you're talking directly to a player. So, you know, I know this has been done on Lamar's time. table and I'd assume things would ramp up in the summer. Kyle Murray's a little different. Obviously, he rattled cages earlier in the off season.

He has been there. I think I told you this last week, Colin, at about three different points during the off season, they've promised to do his deal this summer. So we'll see where that goes. But you're right. In both cases, there's no question the price has gone up over the last six months. And that's what always happens when you wait.

Going into this off season, there were only three quarterbacks, making over $40 million a year, that number is now six. And you have Aaron Rogers over 50. And you have Derek Carr and Matthew Stafford over 40. And you have Deshawn Watson jumping from 40 to 46. And so by waiting, both the Ravens and Cardinals have cost themselves some money. The Cardinals did it by choice.

Again, I think the Ravens have done it because they are very much working on Lamar Jackson's timeline. It's a fluid situation, but it has really eroded quickly for Rusty Hardin and Deshawn Watson. I said last Friday when Hardin said what he said about nothing being illegal, I said it's time to shut it down. Roger Goodell, I think, would have the backing of other owners who were furious when he gave Deshawn Watson a fully guaranteed contract. My gut feeling is now, I would not be shocked. And I would, in agreement, down the line, if you shut Deshawn Watson down for the season, do you think that's possible? I think it's possible. Now, you know, Roger already said,

because there aren't criminal charges here that they aren't going to use the commissioner's exempt list, which would essentially put him on paid leave, which more or less he was last year too. But I do think it could affect what happens with the suspension. And the key part, you know, when it comes to the 24th lawsuit that makes it different than the previous 33, the league and the Browns have already gone through the depositions of the previous 22, of the first 22. And then the 23rd, they knew it was coming. My understanding is this 24th lawsuit, is a little bit different. And I think what's going to be key here is what Deshaun Watson told the NFL's investigators

and what Deshaun Watson told the Browns and how open he was about this 24th case and how much this is catching the league and the Browns by surprise. I don't know the answer to that. Like, I'm not sure whether or not the team or the league was a prize that this could come, that this was an issue for Deshawn Watson. But I think the level to which the league and the Browns are surprised by this is going to be a factor because if this is coming out of nowhere for them, I think there's a good chance the league looks at Deshaun and says, we can't have this.

You know, you looked at us in the eye and you told us what happened and you left this part out of it. And so, you know, I certainly think the 24th lawsuit could be a factor when it comes to their decision making here. And that's beyond even just the PR element, which we always know is a factor. So Debo Samuel is going to attend Niners mandatory camp. So it's interesting. He doesn't want to be used how they're using him. But if they did pay him what he wanted to, he would probably accept the way they're using him. If he went to another team and they paid big money, they would probably duplicate at some level the way the Niners used him.

So it's a, listen, he has huge value, but he is a physical player who has had seven or eight great games in a row. That doesn't mean he's always been great there. I think he's a hard player to pay a fortune to because your other great offensive player George Kittle, he's also hurt fairly regularly. So by going back to mandatory camp, is Debo saying, Olive Branch, I'm in? What is the messaging here I'm supposed to buy into? I think that the relationship mending to some degree is working. Now, like you said, this is very, very complicated because Debo wants to be a receiver, a premier receiver in the league.

And his evidence that he can be that was the first half of last year, I believe he was second in the league in receiving yards. Now, when he went into that tailback role, sort of became the third wheel in the offense behind George Kittle and Brandon Ayuk when it came to throwing the ball. And so it's pretty clear what Debo Samuel wants here. Whether or not he winds up getting it, I think, is what's been discussed over the last few months, because at one point, Debo Samuel was unwilling to talk to the Niners about a contract at all. And so that's the key when it comes to the rebuilding of the relationship. And I think there wasn't all branch here that not a lot of people paid attention to. Now remember the Niners took two running backs

last year, Mitchell and Sermon, right? And, you know, Mitchell obviously played a relatively significant role for a rookie last year. They went back and took another running back at LSU in the third round this year. So now they've drafted three running backs in the last two years. And part of that, my understanding is, was a signal to Debo Samuel. We're building depth at running back so we don't have to do with you what we did last year. We were sort of doing that by necessity. So I think there's always going to be an element of do everything in Debo Samuel's game. I think what the Niners are trying to explain to him is what happened last year was out of necessity and they don't plan to do it again, which again is an important thing to Samuel because for him is a longevity issue as somebody who's already had a whole bunch of injuries playing football. Listen, the Patriots the last two years are 17 and 16, and that's being the number one rated defense collectively last two years.

The world has changed. The Bengals had a bad old line and a young coach, and we're a playaway from winning the Super Bowl. You need a quarterback, you need weapons. And we see this all the time in sports. That analytics change. You used to need a center. Now you need versatile wings. Like the league changes.

And the NFL right now is rewarding teams that have pivoted to offense. I mean, Mike Zimmer can coach, fired. McVangio can coach, fired. Belichick struggling. Pete Carroll struggling. I look at Matt Patricia, potentially being the offensive coordinator, and I'm thinking, the hell is going on here? I just, you're close to this organization.

It feels tone deaf. Forget doing a DC as an OC. This is not a quarterback who can do things off script. It's not a highly dynamic receiving core. The dolphins and the bills look like they're moving in the right direction. What do you make of that Patricia's story to offensive. coordinator. There's a lot of questions internally. There are questions with people that have been there that are elsewhere in the league right now. I think this is a big time gamble from Bill Belichick.

And this isn't one of those where you go to people in the organization. They're like, yeah, yeah, everything will be fine. Don't worry. Bill's got it covered. This is different than that. And I think a huge piece of what they've done this offseason in rebuilding their operation has been a result of losing so many people the last five or six years, and that they're sort of promoting people who aren't flight risks. They promoted macro on the scouting side of the top position and personnel over Elliott Wolf in part because Elliot Wolfe interviewed for GM jobs in two places this offseason. And they didn't go and get Bill Bryan out of Alabama, who would have been the logical choice in large part because they thought if they brought him back, then he may be

gone in a year becoming a head coach somewhere else. And so I think Bill is trying to build some continuity back into his building and bringing in guys and empowering guys like Matt Groh and Matt Patricia and Joe Judge that he doesn't think they're going to leave in a year or two. But I would say it's a pretty significant gamble, like you said, based on where the game is going. And I think, you know, most especially based on where their quarterback is, it's such a critical point in his career going from year one to year two. Albert Breers got a run Monday morning quarterback. Good seeing you, man. All right. Thanks, Colin. You know, some of it, Joey, think about this.

So Belichick's older. And as we're older, people who are older and more successful, get a little more rigid, they're going to do things my way. So Belichick has a couple of his sons on the staff. Well, they're not going to leave him. And he's Matt Patricia got fired and humiliated. He's not going to leave him. I'd be very careful about choosing loyalty over talent.

The Rams lose coordinators and assistance every year. they just won the Super Bowl. You can hire people at your company who won't leave you. Mostly they won't leave you because they're not offered great jobs by other people. Sean McVeigh keeps losing great coordinators because they're great coordinators and he keeps losing them over and over. Belichick feels like he's gotten old. He only wants to coach certain players. He wants loyalty.

He doesn't want to have to go out and find. new coaches. That's the difference between Saban and Belichick. Saban never settles, ever. I've been critical in Nick Saban. Bill's settling. Matt Patricia to offensive coordinator is settling and taking a guy that was humiliated who will be loyal to you. Saban goes out and gets the best offensive coordinator in the country. He got Lane Kiff. He knew Lane wasn't going to stay very long. He got Sark. He knew Sark wasn't going to stay very long. He got Jim McElwain. He knew McElwain wasn't going to stay very long. He keeps getting guys.

He brings them in. They crush and they leave. But Nick never settles. Nick's energy is fantastic for his age. It's fantastic for any age. I mean, he would work a lot harder at recruiting than, you know, I would have worked in my 40s. But this whole idea of, I like loyal employees. Yeah, so do I.

But the more talented ones get offers. That's the reality. Well, also, they're not going to be honest with you. And in a competitive industry, you're not going to say, see everything. You're not going to touch everything. You need people that are going to tell you the truth. But if they're concerned about staying in your good graces, because they're loyal or trying to, you know, stay close to the crown, they're not going to give you the information that you need to get to improve. The greatest thing. People that are talented or have, you know,

bigger aspirations aren't concerned about you being offended. They're eventually going to move on anyway. Yeah. Like the greatest thing you can say about a company is they lose a lot of employees to great jobs. The Rams keep losing coordinators who become head coaches and end up in a Super Bowl. Like the best thing you can say about Andy Reid is, man, guys touch him and they go, Doug Peterson wins a Super Bowl. That's the price of excellence.

Is that, you know, I was told this by some, you know, this is kind of an old business cliche is A's higher A's and B's higher C's. insecure people hire inferior people around them because they don't want to be challenged. We just had a football coach at USC like that. B's hire C's. A's, McVeigh keeps hiring A's. I want smart people in the building. Apple does this.

Google does this. We want you to be smarter. You should be hiring people smarter than you, challenging you. It doesn't mean you're going to lose your job, but it makes you viable. And so the Rams keep bringing in these hot shots knowing they're not going to last three years. New England feels like to me, family, safe, they'll be loyal, they won't bolt. Alabama, I have watched in my entire adult life, dynasties in college football die or erode because they lose great assistance and the coaches can't replace them with equally great assistance.

Pete Carroll, after a while, was recruiting as many coaches as he was players, Mack Brown in Texas, Urban Meyer at Florida. The gift of Nick Saban is he is always challenging himself. He's always going out and finding the best available coach on the market. He doesn't care how great he is. He knows he's going to lose him. That's why Alabama's not the best football program. They're the best run business in college football.

they've done what has been virtually impossible in the sport. They don't always have the best players. I thought Georgia a couple of times had more good players. But Alabama is the, Saban's the best CEO in the sport. There's times I don't always love their coaching staffs, but boy, he takes big swings on it. He's never concerned they're going to leave. And that's a big credit to him. Put your ego aside, be challenged, be great, everybody wins.

Your players win, your fans win, you win. And eventually that coordinator will get. It's a great job. Feel somewhat Lane Kiffin Sark indebted to you. I mean, Lane Kiffin today, he was yelled that constantly by Sabin. Every time they ask him about Sabin, he's like, that's the best coach I've ever been with. That guy's unbelievable.

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There are a lot of broke moralists out there. Hollywood leads the world in lecturing you on how to act with your money. 1% of Hollywood makes it. But they're experts on what to do with it. Yeah, like when they make big money, they don't spend it lavishly. I mean, you've got to be kidding me. Johnny Depp's buying $32,000 bottles of wine. He's made $150 million.

He's broke. You know how many stories? Athletes are better with their money than actors. I mean, if you watch that Johnny Depp trial, like that is Hollywood. That's a lot of Hollywood. Crazy Town. And they're lecturing everybody, Elon Musk, what are you going to do with your money? It's Elon Musk money.

You can do whatever he wants with it. Governments for not solving problems, not individuals. Blame a government if they can't solve a homeless issue or a crime issue. I mean, what a shock. A lot of the media is coming out and demonized law enforcement after the last couple of years. Shocking crime rates go up. So it's like start blaming people in power, not athletes. What are you blaming LeBron for China?

What do you blame in Dustin Johnson, Phil Mickelson? By the way, half of the tournaments in the Saudi League are on our soil. Our government's got a relationship with Saudi Arabia. Every day at LAX, there's a plane headed to Saudi Arabia and one or two coming back in. You're blaming golfers? Everybody's precious about this stuff, what to do with other people's money. New rule, unless you've made it, I don't want to hear you lecture on people on who have

what they do with it. I wouldn't buy Twitter. Why? Because I think 80% of the people on Twitter are bots. I think it's a big con. It's like Bitcoin. What do I need Bitcoin? for? What's it replaced? My money works. Why do I need unregulated currency where there's scams

everywhere? My dollars and credit cards work. It's not replacing anything. Generally, I spend on tech my phone because it does stuff I can't get anywhere else. Or an app gets me door dash, gets me food faster than I can drive there and get it. Bitcoin, NFTs, you know, everybody's an expert on stuff. I am not I'm over you telling me you know how you would spend a rich guy's money however golfers want to do I don't have to agree with what they're doing by the way but it's amazing how often the Elon Musk Twitter thing was like I wouldn't buy Twitter because I think it's a big waste of money I mean I'd buy if I could buy TikTok everybody I know is on TikTok except me but you know it's I'm about done with you guys all lecturing Elon Musk on what to do with his money and I'm I think he's crazy town. I think he's brilliant, but I think he's crazy town. Joy with the News. No, no, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, let's talk about this a little bit more. So the Live Golf Invitational Series is continuing to make waves throughout the golf world. They added Dustin Johnson, PGA member and two-time major winner. He decided to resign his PGA membership to participate in the new golf series, which is backed by Saudi Arabia's sovereign, sovereign wealth, joined Phil Mickelson, who has come out and said he has not resigned his PGA membership,

and he plans to play in this week's U.S. Open. So this is Dustin Johnson on his decision to leave the PGA tour and ultimately end his hopes of competing in the Ryder Cup. I chose what's best for me and my family. Ultimately, I decided to come do this and play out here. And, you know, like I said, I'm excited about it. And, you know, obviously the Ryder Cup is unbelievable. and it's, you know, something this definitely meant a lot to me.

And, you know, proud to say that I've played and represented my country. And, you know, hopefully I'll, you know, get a chance to do that again. But, you know, I don't make the rules. I've been thinking about this and researching this since we had Alan Shipnuck on the writer of the film book. Yes. When anything like this happens and everyone's freaking out, I like to take a beat and look for who's losing money in the situation. And then take a look at their record of what they've done over the years.

Interesting. And try and paint a broader picture while everyone is kind of barking at each other about what's really happening here. So this is my conclusion. The PGA tour does not want competition. And this is competition. There you go. That's the beginning, the middle, and the end of it.

Now, they have done a remarkable job of pushing forward, which is, fair the human rights record of Saudi Arabia and turning this into a moral argument. Yes. Now, that exists because it is factual, right? Like, it is factual that that is the experience for people, for a lot of people in Saudi Arabia. However, when people start saying, you can't do this or you're a bad person or you can't take money from this or you can't participate in this and it becomes this moralist argument, then I have to step back and say, well, what are the decisions that you're making?

Yeah, good point. So first of all, your points is my point when it comes to where people spend their money or where people take money for. If you have never made $125 million, which is what Justin Johnson- Or been offered it. Right, which is what Dustin Johnson is reportedly going to make from this Live golf series. He's made $74 million in career earnings with PGA. Live is going to pay him $125.

Yeah. If you've never made $125 million, or there's no chance, or if anyone's going to ever offer you $125 million to do anything, respectfully, I just don't care what your opinion is about what you would do if someone must offer you that. You don't know. That's right. And it sounds good, and I'm sure you believe that. We are all.

But you, everyone has a price and $125 million is $125 million. We are all morally flexible when money gets involved. We change our opinion all the time. We flip political parties. We're all morally flexible, except for people on Twitter, especially journalists, they are not morally flexible. They are all about... It sounds great. It sounds great.

And I'm sure you feel great about saying it. I don't say things that are that ridiculous because I'm quite sure I would make some decisions that people would be unhappy with if someone was offering me $125 million. Now, part of that is because I know what I could do to help people with $125 million, but that's just me. And Phil Mickelson and Dustin Johnson or any other athlete are not required to be philanthropist or required to use their platform for anything. Now, personally, I use my platform.

I like when athletes use their platform if they believe in something and speak on it. I don't have any problem with that. Muhammad Ali is one of my favorite athletes of all time. Obviously very vocal about social issues. I'm very vocal about social issues. So I'm fine with that. The PGA Tour had its first African American player

in the Masters in 1975. Yeah, yeah. The first African American member of Augusta was 1990. Yeah. We've had 240 massachusetts. shootings in this country in 2022. Why is it on LeBron to fix China? Why is it on Phil Mickelson or Dustin Johnson to solve the human rights issues in Saudi

Arabia? Are they the Avengers? Great question. For that matter, you're probably voicing your opinion about this on Twitter, right? Yeah. Okay. So Saudi Arabia's Prince Al-Aulid is the chairman of the investment firm. Yeah.

That owns this series, this live golf series. he also owns 5.2% of Twitter. Are you going to get off Twitter? Yeah, a journalist, get off Twitter. You're backing him. Now, I'm not attacking people's moral stances. And I'm not saying that Saudi Arabia isn't completely wrong because I agree with that.

Yeah. But I also can't draw the line in the sand with every single thing that happens all the time. If you hate LeBron for China, I'm sure, I'm sure you hate LeBron because he hasn't solved the human rights issues in China. If you could name the human rights issues in China, which I'm sure that you can't.

Please walk around your house today. If anything, any product in your home says made in China on it, please remove it from your home. Including the iPhone. Including your phone. Spend that time today. I think that's a great point. If you are so outraged by this Saudi Arabia move, then get off Twitter because it is owned by the person that is backing this event.

I don't want to hear at Hollywood. Get off Twitter. I don't want to hear all this demonization of these golfers. Twitter is owned by the bad guy. by the bet. All right, that's fine. By the way, it's called globalization. We live in a world where we're all economically connected, almost all of us, despite what our governments are doing. We absolutely are. But my issue is, and I have issues with our human rights issues here in America, which I actually think we should be focused on solving because there's nothing we can do for China. There's nothing we can do for Saudi Arabia, unless you're from Saudi Arabia or from China. I happen to be from America. So I'm concerned about what's happening here. So I don't like putting it on absolutely. athletes to solve the world's problems. That's not their responsibility. Yeah. And what can they, what are they supposed to do? What literally, what is LeBron supposed to do to fix China? Yeah, well, you could say Dustin shouldn't take the money. He doesn't,

somebody else does. It's offer. Well, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's $125 million. Come on. So, come on. To play less. Significantly less. Travel less. Do less. Listen, it doesn't sound. It feels, it feels bad, right? Right. That you would make decisions based off money. I don't know anyone who doesn't. I don't know anybody who doesn't. Any time. That's all I'm saying. But at the end of the day, for me, it's very, very simple. The PGA tour is losing money. And that is why there's a, there's a conflict. That's all it is to me. So the Eagles made a ton of moves on both sides of the ball this off season. But all eyes are going to be on Jalen Hertz. And he looks to continue to improve in his third season. And there

were some concerns about whether he was the quarterback of the future for the Eagles, and Nick Seriani, head coach, has liked what he's seen so far this offseason. He said, I'm noticing a big difference. What I see is a crisper ball. The accuracy I've been very pleased with, you can just see him taking strides every single day with his accuracy because of the fundamentals he has with his feet and upper body. The accuracy thing was the big question with him. He was 52% completion percentage in four games in 2020, 61.3 completion percentage in 2021. and 15 games. That's really where you want to see the uptick with him.

Obviously, he's a very dynamic player, can run with the ball. Yeah. And he's, he has something. Like he got him. He got him to playoffs. He got that star quality to him. If he can be more refined as a quarterback, I think he's the future and I've liked how he's developed.

They've also been really patient with him, which is a good sign to me of an organization when you see something in a player. They were the most surprising team in the league to me. The truth is, I'm not, people say I often flip my opinions, yeah, because I get new information. I was not a huge fan of Jalen Hertz. And then I watched how productive he was. And I watched them in the playoffs. And I thought, well, hell, they don't even have good receivers in a good old line.

We weren't even sure with Nick Siriani. Oh, I thought Sirioni would be a disaster. He was great. He literally took his personnel and said, this is what we can do. Nick Siriani should have been, was the, you know, I don't know what the, but comeback player of the year, he hasn't come back from anything yet. Nick Sariani is like, was the most surprising coaching success story in the league in years. No, he deserves a lot of credit because I, and I thought that the organization was completely falling apart and they weren't.

So yesterday, Deshawn Watson's legal team had no response for the 24th accuser to come forward against him. And this could be trouble in his new contract. So Albert Breer talked about this just a few minutes ago. this is a different situation. So Watson's attorney, Rusty Harden, who has a lot to say as of late, said our legal team has not had time to investigate this new filing and had not heard her name until today. So there's two things with this.

If this person whose name wasn't previously known to Watson's legal team now files a criminal complaint, the allegations could be submitted to another grand jury, and the details in this 24th complaint, if repeated to the grand jury and accepted by the grand jury, that could result in an indictment. So why everyone rushed to move forward was because they felt that the criminal charges,

that door was closed. Well, now there's a 24th complaint that Watson's attorney has said, we don't know who this lady is. So that's a, and again, these are all individual cases. So this could go to criminal court. If Deshaun Watson is suspended in this 24th lawsuit,

the bronze possibly will be able to avoid his guarantees and move on from him and maybe recover a significant portion of his signing bonus. But the question is whether Watson's contract was written broadly enough to cover individuals who hadn't come forward. Well, the other issue that Albert Breer just pointed out is that there wasn't transparency from Deshaun Watson and his team with the NFL and the Browns that there would be additional accusers. That could change how they evaluate how long he's going to be suspended. Because if he had said, for example, it's 22. that's it or it's 22 and we know about this 23rd one and that's it and like there's nothing

else that's going to come forward we have been completely honest with you nothing we're not hiding anything else and then boom there's a 24th case well obviously that damages your credibility about what's really going on and could change how the NFL moves forward with suspension at this point I would be surprised if they don't shut it down for the year and now you're in a really bad spot with the NFL. Because whereas most reasonable people would have said, all right, out for eight or nine games, most people would have said, okay. Now, with what is agent, his attorney said, I think I look at it and think eight games, that's light. So, you know, it's the rule. When you look at the precedent of what people have been suspended for and you consider the number of cases at 22,

which is now 24, I don't know how anyone justifies it not being at least a year. Yeah. No, I, you and I agree a lot. On this one, I was always a get to Thanksgiving. Now I'm like, this is gross. And by the way, intent matters. Like how you're handling a situation matters. If I did something wrong at the company and my bosses came to me and I was flippant,

I'm going to get a longer suspension. The way he and his agent have handled it to these victims is so, nonchalant is so dismissive. To me, it takes eight games to 17 seasons done. Also, keep in mind that even if they do serve the suspension before the season starts, say they went with eight games, each of these cases is still being settled. There's no guarantee that he won't lose some of these lawsuits. Then what happens? Say, for example, he lost all of them and you suspended him for eight games. Shut her down.

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and listen now. You know, I'm always confused by this. You as sports fans are constantly demanding that your teams evolve and adapt. Get a better coach, get a better coordinator, get a better receiver. Right?

The Celtics, should they have just stayed with Kyrie Irving even though he was hurting chemistry? Of course not. You just move him. So you as fans are demanding your team keeps up. The guy's not good, get rid of him. If you have some cap space, go get the other guy.

You don't want the same team year after year unless you're the Rams and you want it, then you always want to keep everybody. But yet when it comes to politicians who change their mind or talk show hosts, well, that guy flip-flops. Yeah, I get new information. I always said this. You're putting your kids on a plane. A storm moves in.

the pilot go, going to fly right into the lightning storm with my kids, or maybe have a new flight path. Your daughter's son goes to the hospital. We've got new medication. It may save their life. Otherwise, they don't live. Should they change their opinion and say, we're going to try the new stuff? Our whole lives, our technology is all about making our life more efficient. many of these platforms were on now didn't exist three years ago five years ago eight years ago a year ago i didn't know about tic-tock a year ago the sons are probably not going to sign dandre aiton well they shouldn't the last two years they're 21 and six when he doesn't play there's new information on him is that they don't shoot threes and he can't hit threes and they can move him

and get somebody who can hit threes should they just read sign him. Listen, DeAndre Aiton a month ago, maybe you were to sign him. But after the playoffs and his plus minus against the Mavericks and how they marginalized him, it was bad. 14 a game minus 58. New information. Dallas is not getting worse. So don't you want your teams to constantly change their opinion on personnel, analytics, coaches, and coordinators? I wouldn't resign DeAndre Aiden. There's a spot for him in the league. I think he's a good player.

But he's not as good as you think he would be defensively for as agile as he is. And he's limited offensively. He got into a little skirmish with Monty Williams who didn't want to play him late and crucial game. So I don't know if he's a hot head, but that's not good because everybody loves Monty Williams. But it's just new information. When you watch the Warriors and the Celtics and they have multiple three-point shooters and versatile wing defenders and he's neither. All right, new information. So if I was the sons, I wouldn't pay him either.

I would trade him. He's got value on the market. A lot of teams in this league need an athletic big who can give you 17, 18 a night. There's an absolute. DeAndre Aitin absolutely will make somebody better in this league. But he's not what the sons need. They need shooters. So I mean, the definition of dumb on the internet is guy complaining about people changing their opinion.

You should change your opinion regularly if new information comes in. That's what doctors. do, what pilots do, what surgeons do, what GMs do, what coaches do. Some guys you think can do things as a coach, and then you find out in the spotlight, they're not as good as you think. That happens all the time in sports. What are you going to do? Give that guy an extension?

I mean, Kyrie Irving, one day he loved LeBron, the next day he wanted out. My opinion changed. If he just stayed with LeBron in Cleveland for years, I'd probably be like his biggest fan. and then he couldn't get along with him and he couldn't get along with Brad Stevens and then he didn't get vaxed. So my opinion is very, very negative on Kyrie Irving now.

It wasn't when he was winning a championship with LeBron. I was like, that guy's the best finisher I've ever seen for a small guy. Right? Like I changed my opinion on Dee Wade when he chose Chicago over Miami. But then I changed it back when he went back to Miami because that's where I think he should play. The idea that you don't change your opinion is counterintuitive to intelligence. You don't have all the answers.

and things are fluid and changing all the time. DeAndre Aiton's a nice player, but I'm watching these finals, and you know what the sons need? Not what he provides. So I would change my opinion on DeAndre Aiton, and the son should. You know, what you can't do in this league is win championships in any sport. Baseball is a little different. They don't have the classic salary cap.

But generally in hockey, basketball, and football, you can't win a championship with a really bad contract that clogs up too much of your payroll. I mean, that's what's kind of happened at Dallas. Zique clogs up too much of their payroll, so they had to let a Mari Cooper walk. And then they had to let a Randy Gregory go. And it's like, you know, the Cowboys tend to be. We've talked about this. They look in the rearview mirror.

Very few new and fresh ideas. It's pretty much a mom and pop shop. You've got to constantly involve. The Lakers right now, a mom and pop shot. Not a lot of new ideas. What don't they have? Lots and lots of versatile wing defenders. That's what the Celtics and Warriors.

have. They had them in Kyle Kuzma, let him go. They had them in KCP, let him go. They had them. They let them go. So their inability to change their mind is why the Lakers are where they are. They're living in the rearview mirror. What the Warriors and Celtics have is multiple players that can do many things. You can put Andrew Wiggins on a two. You can put him on a three. Heck, sometimes he can defend a smaller four. Versatility. Lakers have none. Players are old. They kind of do one thing. Don't do another. I mean, LeBron's one of their few versatile defenders. That's the league now. Evolve, new information, change, adapt, flip. It's really not a knock on your character. It's a sign of your intelligence.

I think Phoenix is doing the right thing. And I like DeAndre. Don't love him, but I like him. He's got value. A lot of teams in this league that can use 18 points in an athletic big. If he gets the right point guard, you know, a young point guard who befriends him and can give him the lobs and the team already has three-point shooters, man, DeAndre Aden's a nice size guy.

No, he's not a big clumsy guy. I can run the floor. I like parts of his game. All right, hour three is around the corner. Game three of the finals. What is it? What week is it? Wednesday.

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