The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - NFL teams are playing too many games, Eric Mangini

Episode Date: December 27, 2024

Colin hands out his Blazing Five picks for the penultimate weekend of NFL football. Former NFL head coach Eric Mangini joins the show to discuss the issues surrounding multiple teams, including the Chicago Bears. Too many NFL teams are playing too many games in too few days.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Last night was a stinker. It's the best stretch of the year. Say what you want. I'm counting the days to pitchers and catchers reporting. I'm all fired up. J. Max's been in a heater with his picks this year. I'll acknowledge it. Now, my picks for divisions and playoffs has been unbelievable. You have to look at me sometimes and think, how does coward pick division winners? Because I look

at you sometimes and think, how do you always get the right team. Well, your logic is strong. Just take the best quarterback and it usually works out. But, hey, by the way, four games in the NBA decided last night in the final 10 seconds. Two mid-range game winners to three-point game winners.

So maybe they're listening, Colin. Say that again. Mid-range game winners. Tyler Hero, your boy, mid-range game winner and someone else had one. And then two, three-point game winners. Hey, exciting night on the hardwood. I know you were watching. Yeah. Okay. Blasing 5. Been a

rough year. What do you think I'm going to stop doing this, puppy? Let's go. Let's blaze it up. It's Collins Blazoned 5, sponsored by Draft Kings. Broncos at Bengals. Listen, I think it's my favorite bet of the week. Broncos plus three and a hot half. I get Sean Payton, a great offensive coach with extra rest, and I have the Bengals on a little shorter week. They played a Saturday game.

I like Denver. They're 7 and 0 against teams with a losing record. They lead the NFL and sack differential. And that matters. They're second in the NFL and sacks because Burroughs offensive line protection is horrid. So I think Burroughs going to be under constant duress. I think Bo Nicks will have more time to throw. And remember, the Bengals have yet to beat a legitimate number one quarterback this year. It's been Gardner Minshu and Will Levis and Dorian Thompson Robinson. The Bengals defense is bad all the way around.

I think Denver take the points. Wins at Cincinnati 2827. Raiders at 6. I don't bet the Saints much, but I'm going to take the Saints at home plus one. Why? Any team that gets humiliated in a standalone game usually plays with intensity, especially if they're home. They're coming off a loss.

They're three and three under their interim coach, and their losses have been to playoff teams. The Packers and the commanders and their Rams, listen, the Packers were beaten up on a lot of people. Their defense is playing well. Ten sacks last three games, and the Raiders' offense is anemic. Under 20 points in six straight games. They've trailed by 10 points in 14 of their last 15 games this year.

So the Raiders get into these huge holes. I think the Saints will play with intensity. I'm going to take the Saints plus one to win 24 to 20. Jets said Bales. I took Buffalo last week. I'm taking them again. They're 7 and 0 at home. They played like crud last week and still won.

The Jets injury report. Many of their best players are hurt. The Jets are falling apart. Listen, here's Buffalo. They don't give the ball up. You can't get the Josh Allen. Seven and two against the Jets, and they're taking the ball away. Meanwhile, the Jets outscored in the second half against the Rams, 13-0, 1 of 6 teams,

one versus six, excuse me, against teams with a winning record. I think they're over their depths here. I'm going to take Buffalo to bounce back. I think it's a reasonable division game. It's not a blowout. But I'm going to swallow the nine and a half points. Lay the points, 28, 17, Bill's win and cover. Falcons at Commanders.

This feels like a J-Mac bet. I like the Falcons plus four. It's a primetime game of two young quarterbacks. Listen, Michael Pennix, the offense is different. Eight for 14 on third down. He gets rid of the ball quickly. It can move. No sacks by the Giants.

And the defense is actually playing well. Rahim Morris has this defense for Atlanta playing well. Third in the NFL last month. with 16 sacks and they're taking the ball away. The commanders, four, their last five wins have come by five points or fewer. Their defense stinks. Terry McCorn will play, but he's banged up. The Falcons defense is playing very well.

A young defense and Rahim Morris has got them playing intense football. Upset, baby, Falcons 30, 27 upset over the commanders. Ohio State versus Oregon. Well, I called it before the season. I said, take the ducks to beat him at Outson and take the Buckeyes when they meet again. I'm going to take Ohio State minus two and a half. Listen, top 10 in the country in yards per play on offense and defense. Ohio State's got better players.

Will Howard, criticize them all you want. Second highest completion percentage in the country over 73%. 36 touchdowns. He moves okay and nine picks. Oregon's had a long layoff. I don't necessarily love that. They could be rusty early. and Penn State dropped 37 points and almost 300 rushing yards on Oregon.

I don't think you can win a Natty with a bad defense. Boise State moved the ball on Oregon. Penn State, Ohio State, Ohio State's defense this season. You saw it against Tennessee. It's in a class by itself. Ohio State wins the game. I think it's going to be wildly entertaining. But I'm going to lay the points and take Ohio State 34 to 30 on Draft King's sportsbook,

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from Washington gets a W. I also like the Broncos and their rookie quarterback winning on the road, and I'll take you know what? I'm going to take the Saints, the Bills in Ohio State. J-Mack, any thoughts on that? Usually you have a strong...

Only real disagreement is I'm on the Bengals at three, but obviously that's a different line than three and a half. But overall, hey, good stuff, man. Saints Raiders, that's a thriller. Oh, boy. If I can endure last night's nonsense, I can take that. Sounds like Saints down two starting offensive linemen, Spencer Rattler under center, undaunted.

I love it. All right, let's bring on my buddy, Eric Mangini. Three years, Jets head coach and Brown's head coach for a couple. You can see him on first things first. So I said yesterday, and this is what's great about the NFL, if you get the coach right or the coach and quarterback right, you can go from laughing stock to good very quickly. And I said, I want to talk about the Jets. I said, Aaron's played great, very good for eight weeks since Devante came back. I said I'd go probably Vrable, Thomas Dimitrov, the GM.

I'd bring Aaron back for a year or two. I think he's played well. And I would probably move Garrett Wilson in a weak draft. he could probably fetch you a second first round pick. I don't think the Jets are that far off. I really don't. I think we always roll our eyes at the Texans or the commanders and the Broncos and say, oh, it's not baseball or the NBA.

You get the coach right and the staff right. Is my idea for the Jets, Vrabel, Dimitroff, move Garrett Wilson. He's unhappy. What do you make of it? Yeah, I think Brayble's going to have options, and I don't necessarily think the Jets are. going to be his first choice. So I'm not sure if you can get that done. I really like Aaron Glenn as a possibility for the Jets. He played there. He's been part of the turnaround in Detroit. I think

he's tough, and I think that would be good for the organization. On the Aaron front, you'd like to keep Aaron because you don't want to deal with that salary cap hit and be strapped with that. But Aaron's doing everything he can to get cut. The fact that Aaron brought up, brought up the, I've never been cut by a teenager, I've never been released by a teenager. That's a direct shot at the owner. That's legitimizing everything that's been said in that organization. That's making fun of how dysfunctional it is. So to me, as soon as he said that, that in my mind said he wants out, but he doesn't want to retire, obviously. He wants to get paid and not have to deal with any of the, you know, givebacks that come with retirement. But ideally, you would be able to keep

them. You'd be able to go get a young quarterback. He could compete with that young quarterback, probably start and mentor that guy. I know that's not really his MO, but if we're talking about perfect worlds, you know, that's what you'd like to see. I think the dysfunction that's been there for a long time is going to take a really strong GM that can create a relationship with the owner and that can kind of tamper some of his ideas. And it's also going to take a strong head coach and those two guys need to work in lockstep because you've got no chance

if the GM has a relationship with the owner but the head coach doesn't and if they're not on the same page and that's been what seems like a problem for quite a few of these administrations over the last 10 years. So Chicago, listen Caleb's thrown for 300 yards

four times. That's more than Josh Allen and Mahomes. There's talent there. I mean he's got something. Last night I felt pity. I felt bad for the kid. I think it's a very, it's a loud media, it's a political organization, the owners are some of the poorest and oldest, is there a solution? Is Vrable the fit here? Would you go Ben Johnson for the, you know, I'm watching Baker get reborn, and I'm watching Sam Darnold and Bryce Young, and they all found a young offensive coach. Is Ben Johnson the answer, in your opinion?

Well, I don't think this is a function of being reborn. And there's a lot of really great quarterbacks that in their first year weren't very good and were part of bad teams with terrible records as opposed to some situations where Sam Darnel, it's taken about seven years for him to really kickstart things. But I think the difficulty in evaluating Caleb is he's been sacked 67 times. So if he gets sacked five more time, the 13th all time right now at 67, five more, they'll be in the 3rd. top five all time in sacks. And last night, it was like a track meet to see who could get to him first. He had no chance. And then they only run the ball 12 times, even though they're averaging 4.4 yards of carry. I didn't really understand that either. I think you can go in there. You can build the offensive line. I would put a significant amount of resources into solidifying the

offensive line. You've got young talent. I mean, you've got a young receiver. You've got a young quarterback, build that first. You know, in terms of dysfunction organizationally, we've seen it happen in Detroit. I think Vrable would be a great fit there. I don't think it has to be an offensive head coach. I think it's got

to be a head coach that has a vision and then is willing to build from the inside out and give Caleb a chance to, like, realize some of his potential. Yeah. So there's another story that's come out on Nick Sariani.

We've got like six pieces of video where he has to be managed. He's confrontational. It's just the opposite of how I view a coach. A coach should basically put fires out. I always said this about quarterbacks, Eric. That Wednesday press conference, the big one with the banks behind you, you step up on a Wednesday. You know, it's formidable.

It matters more than your locker room talk. And I see all this stuff with Siriani. the idea that a position coach or a quarterback would have to manage him, doesn't it bother you? The amazing stat that I read about Nick is that he's got the highest winning percentage of any active head coach in the NFL, and he's got the fifth best winning percentage all time in the history of the NFL right now. So those numbers, if you're looking at success at the position, they're historic. He's at a historic level. And, you know, your job as a head coach is to limit distractions, to manage emotional outbursts.

And he hasn't been one to do that. Now, the flip side of that is he's staying true to his personality. I get criticized in New York for not being emotional enough on the sideline. He's got that covered. He's taken care of that. And I think there's some sincerity to the way that he acts. Do I agree with it all the time? No, do I think that this is an organization that can go in and out of emotional slumps pretty quickly, as we saw last year?

Yeah, but his numbers have been really, really good, Colin. Yeah, no, I think, you know, it's funny. And I think this sometimes, the bottom line in football is winning. You know, it's not about getting along with your players. That matters in the NBA. Like Mark Jackson got along with the Warriors, Steve Kerr got along with them better. like getting along with players. And in baseball, it's managing, you know, it's managing the analytics and upstairs.

In the NFL, if you win, what am I going to do? The guy wins games. And I will say this, it's funny. Philadelphia is such an emotional city. There's an argument that it's like, well, they got the most emotional coach. It's the most emotional city in a weird way. It kind of fits. Yeah, it kind of makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'm thinking about Mike McCart. It's funny when I talk to coaches, and they're like, he won with Favre, Super Bowl with Aaron, he wins with Cooper Rush, he won with Dak, I think he's great. But the perception is, and I think it's because when you coach the Packers and the Cowboys, your games are all on TV, the perception is, yeah, this guy is, and then you start looking at

his career, and we know Aaron can be a little divisive now. We know that very well now. How do you view McCarthy? Well, I think in this situation, his season is going to be saved through this last month. And he took a big step forward to staying last week with the win that he had. I think if he gets one or two wins here the next couple weeks, I'd imagine he's saying it. And look, he won 12 games, three seasons in a row. He's won seven games this year and he's had a backup quarterback for a significant part of the season.

the Cowboys said they were going to go all in in the off season and did nothing. They lost the most starters they had ever lost in the history of the organization prior to the season and didn't really replace it with anybody. There was all kinds of turmoil with the contracts, you know, whether it was C.D. Lamb or Dak Prescott, there's that. He's been coaching as a lame duck. He's got a defensive coordinator that's coaching as a lame duck, only got a one-year deal. And I think when you transition with Mike Zimmer, there's going to be some, learning curve. His defense is very different than Dan Quinn's, but it's gotten better as the

season's gone on. And you see the team is still playing hard. He works well with the owner. If you go fire a guy, you've got a, you know, you get a new head coach. He's got all those learning curves. And then you've got the learning curve of being able to work with Jerry. And do you really want to go through that? Is this team so far away that next year they couldn't be, you know, easily win the division? I don't. I don't. I don't. think they're that far away. I want to wrap it up with this because Nick Wright, I asked Nick the other day, who you're working with Dan First Things First, I said, what do you do with Sam Darnold?

And Nick said, and I thought it was interesting. He said, it all depends on the playoffs. The story's not done. Let's not write the story before it's done. And I looked, they brought in Daniel Jones. They drafted J.J. McCarthy. And this week, the Vikings play. At home, they play the Packers.

And, you know, Green Bay is on a heater. and I look at Darnold and it's confirmation bias. I wanted him to be great. He is, so I'm feeling it. But I'm thinking to myself, if he has a clunker against the backers, if he gets bounced in the first round of the playoffs,

you probably let him go to the market. What do you think the conversations are? You've had these conversations. You've been a head coach. What are they saying about Darnold behind closed doors in that situation? I think as well as he's played this season, I would imagine that the answer there is you franchise them.

You franchise them for one year. You pay the $40 million. It's not a long-term commitment. You let McCarthy sit for another season and learn, similar to Jordan Love. And this way here, you're kind of getting the best of both worlds. You give your young guy another year to develop. You get to see where he is. You get the benefit of another season with Sam Darnold without having to be invested in him for multiple years.

And to me, that's a very reasonable answer for where they are. Yeah. I want to throw one more thing at you. Jay Mackett, it torments him. He keeps saying the Chiefs are lucky. And my take is the Randy Moss Patriots did not dominate the league in the postseason. The Tyree killed Chiefs. They went back to back when he wasn't there.

Is that Sizzle does not win Super Bowls. And that this is not college football. The margins get tight. It's efficiency. It's third down. It's fourth down stops. It's having a great coordinator. Spags, who's on the opposite side of your head coach's excellence.

And that I watch Kansas City, and I think they've pulled away from the league. I think this game against Pittsburgh, I'm like, wow, that's scary. New England, similarly, when they had their most flash, it wasn't early and late. It was in the middle, and they couldn't win a Super Bowl. So your takeaway on the idea that explosive plays, I think, to be honest with you, sometimes the more explosive your playmakers, the more they want the ball and it disrupts continuity. I think Kansas City is scary now. I would want no part of them in the playoffs.

Talk about the lack of sizzle, yet the results are better than ever. To me, learning how to win is a skill. And learning how to win close games is a, is a, skill that takes a long time to develop. And they've been incredibly resilient. And I was down on them early because I didn't think that Patrick Mahomes was playing up to his level. But now he's playing better. So they've won in a lot of different ways. They're playing complementary football. Patrick Mahomes is starting to play, you know, what we've, what we're used to seeing him play at. They're, they've added good players as the season has gone on. They're getting other players back

who weren't participating that adds weapons to what they're doing. They've got the number one seed. They've got the buy. They've got extra time to prepare. And Andy's very good when he's got extra time to prepare. This team is a problem. And what they're doing is incredibly special. To win back-to-back championships, it's hard.

And you have shortened off seasons, and everybody's coming for you. But now to be where they are in this third year, after all the same, success I've had, they're as dangerous as anybody is and I think that we should respect the way they're winning and appreciate it because it's a skill set that not very many teams have.

Eric Mangini, first things first. He hasn't come to L.A. anymore. He's got other assignments in the company, but it's... I just need an invite. I just need a friend with a show. Say, hey, why don't come out and spend some time?

You know anybody, if you know everybody let me know. Happy holidays. Eric Mangini. Great seeing you. I'll back this soon, Colin. All right.

Dave Wonstat, the former Bears coach, very tied into that organization, joining us next hour. J. Max got his picks. I don't know. I think this is the week. The Blazin Five trumps all your gems.

You had a very good week last week, and I stunk as usual. I mean, I did go six in O in headlines, but who's counting? So they're like, hey, Jake, can you do another six this week? Like, guys, I don't need this added.

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I'm going to talk about that before the end of this hour, but it was fascinating. And I heard it after we jotted some notes down this morning about why Kansas City and Baltimore were so good playing three games in 11. in days and everybody else was mostly so awful. We'll get to that. But first, J-Mac with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, so Colin, we'll start with a mock draft and that did not have Shadur going number one. I dropped mine on Fox Sports. They were just texting me about the numbers. People love a good mock draft out there. Oh, I love it.

I thought you're drafted. It was fun. It was on Fox Sports.com. I had Cam Ward at number one going to the New York Giants. I had Shadour dropping a six. I know some Tennessee fans were outreach. We would take Shador. I'm just telling you guys.

Dion's on record here on this network on a show saying, hey, if I got to do stuff behind the scenes to get my kid in a good spot, I'm going to do that. Dion Sanders is not letting Shadur go to the Tennessee Titans. Now, Brian Callahan is a smart offensive guy. I just don't see it happening. I don't see him going to Cleveland. So I do think he kind of finesses his son to the Raiders.

By the way, did you know that Shadur has been with his dad as a coach at Colorado, at Jackson State and Dion was the offensive coordinator at Shador's High School? It's going to happen in the NFL. I know people don't want to believe that. Dion will be in the NFL coaching his son eventually. I don't know, what do you think? A lot of offensive tackles in the top six.

But, Colin, we're seeing a rejuvenated running game in the NFL. I think there's going to be a priority on the trenches. I don't think your Cam Ward pick is crazy. He's got the best arm in the draft, and he's got a big physical body. Jalen Milrow, I think, is a little stronger. But Cam Ward is a playmate. and I don't think it's crazy.

Shadur is polished and more ready to play today, but we've seen the number two quarterback taken in drafts be better than the number one quarterback. So I like your Cam Ward pick. I will say, Mason Graham, the defensive interior lineman for the Michigan Wolverines, to me is a top five, six pick. He's very good.

I would have a hard time if I was New England, if I was Cleveland, if I was Tennessee, Now, he's not Aaron Donald, obviously. No, but he is really... He's in that quick... I actually saw him play in Surveite in Anaheim. I saw his high school stuff. And that's a great program.

They play good teams. He was dominant in college, dominant in high school. I think that kid can really play. I had Ashton Gentie falling to the Chargers at 22, maybe a little home-cooking. But they need another running back after Dobbins. They have to get one. And you know our both DNA. I don't think that's a bad pick at all.

Some people will clamor for a wide receiver. I had the kid T-Mack going to the Cowboys at 14, the kid from Arizona. Okay, that's an interesting pick. So I think he's a top six or seven pick, and I'm not prone to like receivers in the first round. I know a kid that plays with him in Arizona, and I think T-Mack is a sensational start day one, productive day one college to pro receiver. And if you're looking for one other guy, the Jalen Milrose situation, Colin,

You think he's a first rounder, right? Absolutely. Like, there's some questions about how good he is. I had him going to Seattle. Listen, Seahawks fans have to be done with Gino Smith. He's maxed out. He's hit his ceiling. You've got to do something.

Maybe you go Sam Darnold or you draft Nell-Roe and develop him. Yeah. My people like Milro, he is a bit mechanical. But when he lets the ball go, it gets to its intended target. He doesn't do a lot of mid-range stuff. He's good on short stuff and deep stuff. He's not good in the middle of the field. But I think, again, you have to develop that.

His comp is a much more refined Anthony Richardson. Yeah, yeah. Just don't watch the Oklahoma tape. Don't. I mean, that was like, that guy's undraftable. What is he pulling at? I watched the first half of that game and was jaw dropping. But the Georgia game.

Go watch a Georgia game. He was amazing. The running the arm. I'm like, oh, this guy. I've been told that he drives, he's, there, Kailen DeBore is kind of flummoxed at his inconsistency. But great kid, good family, great body, throws a wonderful deep ball. There's a lot to like.

Next up is the Denver Broncos. Listen, you were earlier on the Broncos than pretty much anyone. I think Vegas had the win total. At five and a half, and I said it's going to be closer to eight, nine. You said it was a great bet. Well, another guy who agrees with you is Denver offensive tackle Mike McGlinchie. He said the Broncos expected this. So I wouldn't say so much pressure as it is excitement to achieve the goal we set out to achieve. But you want to make sure you stay in the process. You don't want to make the game too big, too small. It's not the Catalina wine mixer.

You just want to day-by-day control what you can control and execute to the best of your ability. And that's what we're going to try to do. You know why I like them? Boxes. Head coach offensive, great left tackle, one big time weapon, excellent pass rusher, elite corner. Boxes. It's why I think the Jets, potentially with the right coach GM, check the right boxes

to be the Denver Broncos of this season. Too bad, there's no Sean Payton on the market, and Rabel ain't known Sean Payton. I am curious, this, Bo Nix, there's some numbers out there floating around. A lot of his numbers are inflated by playing dregs of the league. Well, yes.

He's cooking against the worst teams. Jaden Daniels and Bo Nicks have beaten a lot of mediocre teams. That is absolutely fair, but when you're a rookie quarterback, I'll take it. Just win a couple games. So the tough part is,

are the Bengals Dregs of the league, or are they okay? And our defense is bottom of the barrel. So Bo Nix could catch wind here. Also, Broncos get a big boy pass rush. And Bengals O line, can you imagine having somebody as good as Joe Burrow and not taking care of the offensive line? They're trying. They drafted Mims, who's been very good.

I don't think the other guy, Brown, could stay healthy. They just, nothing they do on the offensive line has really worked. Maybe that's part of why Burroughs ticked off. Guys, I'm getting murdered back here. Do you think it is? I think Joe's the only great quarterback that won't make the playoffs. If they can't beat Denver. I mean, there's still, it's an uphill battle.

But he's the only great one. If you're a great quarterback in this league, you generally find a way to get in. This game is fascinating. Broncos Bengals. So Certan, do you have him follow Jamar Chase everywhere he goes? Everywhere. So T. Higgins is banged up. He's in and out of practice this week.

That's right. Not good. So you can be on to something with Broncos three and a half. Final story, Colin, is the Cowboys have shut down. CD Lamb for the season. Oh, boy. They lost their highly paid quarterback and their highly paid wide receiver. And Mike McCarthy is expected to return to Dallas next season.

Never a dull moment with Jerry and company. Yeah, stay away game for me. But, yeah, I'm not, I think the move for Dallas in the offseason. I actually love the off season and the NFL. I love doing shows in March. I think it's fun. I think you're same way. We both love the draft.

I think the move here is Micah Parsons in a weak draft. It is a weak draft. Micah gets you a first and a fourth. And I think if the Dallas Cowboys can get two first round picks, go get either Team Mac at Arizona or the Boise State running back, get Dak help, go replace him. It's a good edge rusher draft. Go get somebody to replace Micah Parsons.

And I think you can fortify Dak. I mean, if you're going to pay Dak the money, you've got to make sure he's productive. And I think that's the move. I don't think McCarthy to the beach and given some whiz kid the control is the answer. I think the answer is trading a star who's a really good player. I said this about Garrett Wilson and the Jets. It's a weak draft.

Micah maybe just gets a late first in a great draft. But I think he gets a mid-first and a mid-third or a fourth in a weak draft. Same with Garrett Wilson for the Jets. You don't get a lot of drafts that are universally considered. weak drafts. This is one of them. Take advantage of it. I wonder, you just said something about McCarthy and Wiz Kids. Is Jerry Jones keeping McCarthy because he can't find anyone better? No, I think... Or has McCarthy done enough to save his

job? Because, I don't know. Is there someone out there better than McCarthy? I don't think Raybo's taking this job. I pay my quarterback 60 mil. I think McCarthy's a nice guy. I think Jerry has always been prone to give coaches. and Garrett McCarthy, a Chan Galey, an extra year. Jerry wants to be relevant, and I think Jerry privately acknowledges some of his moves have not helped the team. So I didn't think they had a great draft this last draft. I think they have to take a big swing, and that swing is Micah on the market and accumulate some draft picks and get DAC help. So let me flip it. Jerry comes to McCarthy. Hey, Mike, we want you back. Here's the contract. What if McCarthy goes?

We had a good run here. I think I'm done. Would McCarthy move on? Because he's got to deal with Jerry doing multiple interviews. This is really interesting. Does McCarthy say, I could go to Chicago? I could go Jacksonville if it gets open? No, I think it's going to be open.

I think this is very interesting. Could Mike move off? Yeah, I don't need the headache of Jerry Jones stirring up stuff every week. There's like drama every week in Dallas. But I do think Mike McCarthy with the Cowboys, I wouldn't be shocked if Mike goes to the broadcast booth. Everybody likes Mike. Mike's a nice guy.

I could see him. Jason Garrett ended up in a broadcast booth. Jimmy Johnson ended up in a broadcast booth. It's not just quarterbacks in Dallas that end up making seven figures talking about football. It's coaches. Bill Parcells, by the way, did some broadcast stuff. He just rather golf and hang out and do other things. Better job.

Sates or Cowboys? Cowboys. Jets or Cowboys. Cowboys. Bears are cowboys. Cowboys. I must be missing something. I didn't think it's a great job.

Right now, as the team is presently constructed with your owner, who's doing multiple radio interviews every week and putting heat on you all the time. Heat is part of being a coach. Not in New Orleans. It's not in Jacksonville. You don't want heat. Go coach Jacksonville. Congratulations.

Go disappear. Hey, I hop 24-7 in Jacksonville. It's called Waffle House. Waffle House. If you don't know how to find Jacksonville, fly to Atlanta, follow the Waffle Houses. You'll get the J-Vill. J. Mack with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. That's an interesting question. Give me another two or three jobs, and I'll give you Cowboys or Bet. I think the Cowboys job is not the best job, but it's a very good job. Giants runoff Day Bowl. They get the number one pick.

Cowboys. And they say McCarthy, who do you want, Cam or Shador? No, I'm saying, I'm talking about franchises. I think Dallas right now is a better job than New York Giants. With Dak Prescott as the highest paid quarterback in the league? Cooper Rush and Dak Prescott can win about 70% of their games. Now, what's a better job in the Cowboys? Philadelphia.

Oh, yeah. Seriaity gets dusted. And I'm not just talking players. I think Philadelphia is a better job. If I was on the market, I would take Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia, I think Kansas City, the Hunt family has been, how often have the, I think the Packers job is a great job. I think Baltimore is an unbelievable. I think the Rams with Kronki's a great job.

Oh, oh, Cincinnati. Not interested, not interested. Not interested in coaching Joe Burrow. Joe Burrell gets hurt. Ownership front office worries me. There's about seven great jobs in the NFL. Drake May. Do you like him enough that if...

I like Robert Kraft. I would take that. Mayo got shown the door. Yes, yes. You would leave Cowboys for Patriots. No, no, no. That's a different question. Let me give you the seven best jobs in the NFL.

No order. going to give you the seven we'll start we'll start left coast nineers the great job rams stand cronky great job great ownership situations in a recent history of winning i think um i'll be i've said this for years i think denver's always been an underrated and i think it's pittsburgh with mountains i think denver's underrated now you've got the richest owners sean peyton loves it um i think green bay's great i think dallas is very good i think the craft family philadelphia new england Casey. Kansas City's excellent. Hunt family's been great forever. Miami Dolphins? No. Now how many have I named? Eight? That's seven or eight. Yeah.

I've named eight. Oh, Baltimore. Baltimore. My bad. Baltimore may be the best. Great ownership. So there's nine jobs in this league that I, if they're open, take the job and figure everything else out later. Harbaugh took chargers because of Herbert. Right. And I think, I don't think the Spanos is in the nine, but I also don't think it's middle or bottom. I think the chargers are closer to the top. They have a very good situation with SOFI financially. They don't

meddle. They're nice people. I know them. They're nice people. And by the way, you get to live in Los Angeles, and you get Justin Herbert. I also think Atlanta's underrated. I think Tampa's underrated. I know the Glazer family, good people, and I think Jason Light's one of the best

jams in the league. I think that's an underrated job. So there's a dozen jobs in this league that are pretty... Minnesota? That's a good call. Will family is low maintenance. They don't get in the way of anything. That's a good call.

Minnesota's... I'm just bullish on O'Connell, just what he's been able to do. But again, when I'm talking about a job, who owns it? What's the history? Is there meddling? Are they well capitalized?

There's some good jobs. Minnesota is one of the... By the way, now, I'll give you another one. Buffalo now is a good job. I like the GM and I like the owner. But sometimes it's not a good job until you make it a good job. Patriots wasn't a good job. That's right. That's fair. And then Belichick shows up and crush.

Oh, it might have been someone right before that. But yeah, sometimes you can make the job good. Now, the Kraft family, a lot of people will say privately, they're a little cheap. I've heard that before. I don't know that to be true. But there's an argument that Gerard Mayo was affordable. And they paid Belichick a fortune. And it was like, you know, we're going to scale back on that. That's what I've heard. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

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when you have a short week. It just comes down to who's got the best players. And I think you've seen this. So a total of nine teams this year have played three games in 11 days. What a shock. The Ravens and the Chiefs are the only ones to go 3 and 0. Whereas the Seahawks, Saints, Steelers, and Bears went 0 and 3.

I don't like short week games, even Amazon's. It's fine. We're okay. I like something to do on a Thursday night. But I think the problem is the NFL's always done a really good job to keep everybody kind of close. this year has been wild. We have three teams that are going to end up with 13 wins, only one last year.

We're going to end up with 10 teams, 9 or 10 teams, with five wins or fewer. Last year it was only five. So the top half is stronger, the bottom's a mess. It's got a very NBA feel. And I think the reason is you got games on any day that ends in Y has a game in it. We got Wednesday games, Thursday games, Friday games, Saturday games. And when you do this short rest, it's a huge advantage. having a superstar quarterback like Patrick Mahomes and Lamar.

And you can even have a good roster like Seattle. If you got Gino Smith, you're 0 and 3. And it's something I think about is that one of the strengths of the NFL has always been. Everybody's kind of close in the middle. This year, you've got a two-win team. I think you've got five, three-win teams. You've got three-four-win teams. Look at the losing streaks that are happening in the NFL right now.

There's teams losing seven, eight, nine, ten games in a row. It's a mess. That's not the NFL. So as they're doing this money grab from Amazon and Netflix, which, you know, I get it. The owners want the money. It feels like there's a separation is that short weeks punish average rosters or thin rosters. One of the strengths of the NFL has always been it's a coaching sport. And if you can give a team that doesn't quite have the players or the star quarterback,

but you give them six days of prep and film and tricks. and be clever, they can keep it close or they can upset. But now the best feel, I mean, I'm watching that Chiefs win, and they were so dominant over Pittsburgh is, I mean, they just separated from the league. And nobody's beaten Kansas City, if that's the version I get. Now they've got Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy matters, Pacheco is back, they're settled at left tackle,

their defense with Spags is great. Here goes Travis Kelsey to explode. And I, you know, I'm not saying you're going to get perfect rest. It's not the playoffs. But the short, I mean, just look at the numbers. The short rest games clearly benefit teams like the Ravens and the Chiefs. And Eric Mangini talked about it earlier today is Kansas City. I know it was short week and maybe I'm hyperbolic here, but I don't see anybody beating them.

What they're doing is incredibly special. To win back-to-back championships, it's hard. And you have shortened off seasons and everybody's coming up. for you. But now to be where they are in this third year, after all the success I've had, they're as dangerous as anybody is. And I think that we should respect the way they're winning and appreciate it because it's a skill set that not very many teams have. Yeah, no, it's, I've compared them to New England where you have simultaneously between Belichick, Josh McDaniel, and Brady, you had the greatest defensive coach, the best offensive

coordinator and the best quarterback. And that's what they have in Kansas City. That's why they're so good situationally. They got the best offensive coach. They got the best defensive coordinator, the opposite skill set of the head coach and the best quarterback. And what you're seeing here, stability and ownership, solid front offices, it's a tough out. I mean, I think a better story is the Lions winning it. Emotional Nick Siriani winning it. Buffalo winning it. Baltimore, Lamar Jackson finally breaks through, but you start watching Kansas City. That Pittsburgh

win, that was just devastating. If I'm Buffalo and Baltimore and looking at that win, it's like, it's intimidating. Situationally, roster, rolling, all of it. Hour three next. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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