The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - NFL trades, World Series
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You know, made a big change on the show to get J-MAC.
A lot of people are liking it.
Some didn't know.
Good, good reviews.
People didn't think they'd start liking you.
You weren't that likable.
Now you're on the show.
Everybody likes you.
I wasn't that likable.
Jeez, my family firmly disagrees me.
Okay, so I was thinking about this.
So there's been this rumor out there that basically the Broncos thought they were getting Aaron Rogers,
so they hire Hackett from Green Bay.
And once they didn't get him, Aaron Rogers, they got Hackett.
They said, okay, well, settled for Russell Wilson, but Hackett knows the Aaron offense.
And so he's using the Aaron Rogers offense for Russell Wilson,
and they're not the same skill set.
Now, I don't know if this is true, but it's been a rumor.
Conspiracy theories come when you see something and don't have an answer.
A great example.
All the Pentagon footage of those little like tick-tacks, those little space things flying around.
So we don't know what they are.
Pilots don't know what they are.
Now, I think it's like intelligence from Russia or China.
That's my guess.
It's surveillance on us from another country.
I don't think it's aliens.
or it is an experimental thing that America's working on that they haven't told our pilots.
They don't want it out.
So, you know, pilots go on 60 minutes and they go on Joe Rogan and they'll talk and they don't want that.
So a lot of the times our government does stuff and doesn't let everybody in the government know.
So that's what I think it is.
But the reason you get the alien talk is you see something and you don't have an explanation for it.
And you see Russell Wilson, who was good, good, good, awful.
And you're like, the hell is that?
What is it?
So there are people that are now starting to suggest basically Hackett knows one offense.
I mean, we know Kyle Shanahan has an offense.
McVeigh's got an offense.
You can tweak it, but your offense is kind of your offense.
And many people are suggesting is this is what kind of Hackett knows and Russell doesn't fit it.
So you have to replace the coach.
I don't know if that's true.
But my takeaway is that's where conspiracy theories happen.
Often you see something.
There's no explanation.
So your mind goes all over the place.
you're looking for an answer.
Hackett had how long once the Russell Wilson trade went through like four months before the season started?
I mean, dude, come.
Like, I understand where you're going.
But this is fully on Hackett.
Like you've got a superstar quarterback and you don't have an offense when you've got good receivers.
Something's not adding up.
I don't believe in aliens.
I believe in, I believe countries develop spying systems and, you know, counterintelligence stuff.
And they just don't tell the public because.
they don't want people to steal it.
I remember living in Nevada with the stealth.
And I worked at a TV station in Nevada,
KVBC, Channel 3 for years,
six, seven years, whatever it was.
And we would get these calls to our station for years.
There are triangle lights all over the desert.
And we had a reporter at the time,
Dan Burns, that was doing stories on this stuff.
And it was all over the Vegas news.
What are these, are they UFOs?
They were stealth.
The government was testing them, area 51, probably.
And they weren't telling us.
Because that area between Vegas and L.A., there's a lot of desert where nobody lives.
And that's where they test out.
So do you think there are other species out there outside of planet Earth?
Do you think anything exists out there?
Is there another planet with humans?
No, no.
Not at all.
We're the only people in the universe.
Why not?
Really?
When do I get to ask you about what happens after we die, religion?
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this stuff.
Maybe not right now.
It's an NFL Thursday, obviously.
Greg Cocell, 43 years NFL films.
This show's gone completely sideways.
Greg, I'm sorry to rope you.
So, Colin, I got a question for you,
just listening to your conversation about Russell Wilson.
This is the kind of stuff because I'm a little nuts,
as you know, that I think about when I'm falling asleep, you know?
So do you think a quarterback can be called a great quarterback without using that term loosely?
You know, we throw around great elite, you know,
those are terms we like to throw around.
do you think that a quarterback, if we're calling him a great quarterback, should be able to play in any system?
Or can you be a great quarterback just in a given system?
And would you still call that guy great if you feel he could only function at a high level in a particular system?
I'll give you my answer.
How come I can tell the difference between a Picasso and a Monet?
Because even the greatest artists in the history of the planet have a style.
I can look at a Monet.
I can look at a Picasso, and I don't know anything about art, and I can go, that's that, that's that. Why? Because as
gifted as brilliant as they were, everybody has a style. Jerry Seinfeld's a brilliant comedian.
He is an observational, non-profane comic. That's what works for him. Robin Williams wouldn't do his act.
It wouldn't work. Yet he was more improvisational. Even the greatest people in art and entertainment have a style.
And so I think quarterback Tom Brady is not going to be the same in offense.
Like Lamar Jackson wouldn't be great with Tommy's offense and vice versa.
Everybody needs a certainty.
You've got to play to people's strengths.
How's that?
Okay.
That's a fair.
By the way, I really like impression and stars just in case you were wondering.
I know it to get you for Christmas.
There you go.
So let's start with two teams on a buy that impress you last week.
So let's talk about the Cowboys' 49-point performance against the Bears.
Let's start with Dallas.
What did you see you like?
I mean, I thought that I think, you know, we know what Pollard did.
So let's leave that alone for the moment.
I think you and I would both agree that he is a dynamic back.
Yeah.
And he's got a lot of juice.
He's much more of a big playback, certainly at this point in his career than Zika is in his career.
But I think the key thing was the rhythm and timing with which they got a DAC to play with.
There was a lot of quick game throws.
There was a lot of boot action.
They wanted to get him comfortable.
They wanted to get him back because ultimately they're going to need him to be the driving force of this offense at some point in time.
If you want to be a great team, ultimately your quarterback is going to have to be the driving force.
And while Pollard is certainly an explosive element.
And actually, right now, he may be the explosive element in this offense.
Yeah.
You need Dak to be a comfortable player.
and I thought they did a really good job with the kinds of throws that they were asking him to make
because he needed to get his timing and rhythm.
He needs that working in the right direction.
So it's interesting.
The Niners got beat by the Chiefs, but lost in that is that the Niners' defense was the problem.
They had moved the ball against Kansas City.
So here they come second game with Christian McCaffrey.
And again, whenever they lose, it's Jimmy G's fault.
We know McCaffrey can play.
What did you make of the Niners, Jimmy G, and that offense?
using Christian?
Well, we spoke, I think, last week that we both knew that McCaffrey would play many more snaps,
and he played, I think, twice the number he did in his first game.
He touched the ball on eight of the first 13 plays.
But I think what was really interesting to me, and this is where coaching comes into play,
Euse Check did not play in this game.
And for many, that might not be a big deal because he's not a fantasy player.
You know, he doesn't get carries.
He doesn't necessarily get catches.
But they changed what they did without use.
They ended up playing a lot with two tight ends, which is something that's in their package,
but it's not what they do a lot of.
Well, in this game, they did.
And Jimmy G threw the ball exceptionally well out of two tight end sets.
He was 13 for 15.
And when the Rams played with four defensive backs against two tight ends, Garapolo was 10 for 10.
So they threw the ball really effectively out of two tight end sets.
And I wonder when Usechek comes back, because he will after the buy, I believe.
if they make any kind of adjustment and stick more with two tight ends since they had so much
effectiveness throwing, although it could also be a function of the defense they played.
The Rams play almost no man coverage.
They almost never press their corners.
They're a very soft secondary defense.
So trade deadline was a blast for me as a talk show host.
Jason and I are sitting here that day and just had the time of our lives.
And I like what the Bears did to get more help for Justin Fields.
but the Ravens, a Super Bowl bubble team, went and got Roquan Smith, who's a tackling machine.
If you watch Bears game, it feels like he's in on every other tackle.
How does he fit, though?
Fit matters in this sport.
How does he fit the Ravens defense?
Oh, he fits.
He's a good player.
I think Smith, I wouldn't put Smith in the category of the Fred Warner's.
I don't think he's that level of linebacker.
But they're looking for someone to play with Patrick Queen.
They've been playing the journeyman, Josh Binds, who's been around the league for a long time.
And you can certainly line him up.
an extremely smart, savvy player.
But they were looking for more athleticism.
With Mike McDonald there, as their D.C., they like to get into the Blitz game a little bit.
Bynes could not do that.
Smith can do that on occasion.
So they went for the more dynamic athlete who I think fits what they want to do.
Their offense will be interesting to me because it's funny.
This past game, I think their last game was the Thursday nighter, actually.
They threw the ball a ton, Colin, in the first half.
Jackson had 31 dropbacks in the first half alone, which is very unravens-like.
Now, we had 19 completions, but only for 144 yards.
One of the interesting things about this offense, and this is going to have to change at some point.
Lamar Jackson has only had 17 completions, I believe, of 20 plus yards.
And I think that that is the fewest 20 plus yard completions of any quarterback in the NFL.
So there's really, obviously he can run the ball, but there's no big play element to their passing game.
And I think that's something that's going to need to change going forward.
So I threw something out there this week.
Many disagreed, but that's the fun of this show.
I said, listen, I've seen these Miami teams go to cold weather.
I saw Marino's teams do it.
It's different.
I heard you say that, by the way.
Huh?
Yeah, you heard you say that.
Yeah, see, you listen.
You're a consumer.
That's what I like to hear there.
But I said, too, is not going to push the ball down the field.
Good luck at Baltimore.
at Sincy, at Ravens, at Kansas City.
And I'm like, you know, I like him, but he's still small.
I saw him this week throw a ball in that Lions game, deep ball, massively underthrown.
And I'm like, God, add 20-mile-an-hour wins.
And people push back.
Okay, you push back.
Tell me why I'm wrong on that Miami offense.
If it goes north in the wind and cold may not look the same.
I don't think you're wrong about his ability to throw a deep ball.
His deep balls lose energy on the back end.
He's not that kind of thrower.
Their offense is not really built on that.
The question is, can they do what they're doing now continually throughout the season?
Because they use motion more than any team in the league.
They're really good with the play action game.
What they do with motion and play action is they cause a lot of problems for second-level defenders.
There's a lot to see, a lot to process, a lot to sort out.
And that's why you see Hill and Waddle open so often on quick throws.
Those are throws you can throw in any way.
weather. There's no question, too, is not a good deep ball thrower. His ball hangs. And, you know,
one point I made before the season, which a lot of people said I was crazy, and I'm sure people
tell you on occasion you're crazy. But I said that they didn't get Hill and Waddle, while Waddle was there,
they didn't get Hill to run vertical routes. They got Hill because teams will not press them.
And what happens is you get free access off the line of scrimmage, and that allows Tua to play
to what he is, which is a quick timing and rhythm thrower.
To his game is built on hitting his back foot and the ball coming out.
And when you can do all those things with motion and play action,
and you can't press the wide outs because you're a little scared of them,
then you get all those throws that they get now.
By NFL standards, they're getting easy throws.
This is beautiful coaching.
McDaniel understands his offense and two so, so well.
Okay, I want to talk Vikings.
I picked him to win the division.
I thought they'd be the most improved team, and I thought mostly Kirk Cousins would have
an offensive coach to embrace him.
He'd be less agitated.
The fissures and the coach and the quarterback would be gone.
But you like the defense on tape so far.
Why?
Yeah, I do.
I mean, I think the offense is pretty good, too.
I think their O line is not talked about enough.
They've got a really young, improving, ascending all line.
But defensively, now this is a team.
It's Ed Donatel as the de-coordinator.
He kind of comes from the Vic Fangio school.
So you don't see a ton of man coverage.
You see high percentage zone, but it's very multiple in their own concepts.
But I kind of like their front group, particularly their front six when they're in Nickel,
because they've got two really good veteran linebackers in Hicks and Kendricks,
and they have length and athleticism up front.
And a lot of multiple front looks.
They've got Daria Smith having a really good year.
They've got DeNeil Hunter.
They've got DJ Wonom, who's a really good player as well.
All these guys are four.
65, 6, 6, 6, 6. They can line up anywhere along your front. This is a pretty good defense.
And so I think this is a team again. You and I both know that the narrative in the minds of many
is already written. Kirk Cousins get to the playoffs, he'll be bad. You know, people are just going to
say that no matter what they do in the regular season. But all we have right now is what we have
right now, and this team is pretty good. T.J. Hawkinson, to me he feels like a great fit for them.
That's what my takeaway. You think so? Oh, yeah. T. J. Hawkinson is one of the very
few guys, Colin, that when I do all my college work and, you know, I do all that work,
not just quarterbacks, but every position, I don't think I had a weakness on my evaluation
sheet for J. Hawkinson coming out of Iowa. And obviously he was in a Detroit situation that
appeared dysfunctional at times. I think this is a good spot for him. Okay, I want to move to the
Jets. So when I watch a young quarterback, obviously we look at production, but one of the things I look at,
I look at his feet, does he look nervous? I look at his head. Is he going to a second receiver? A third
receiver. Can he read a defense? Can he see the whole field? That was taught that years ago by
Trent Dilfer. He said, look at the feet, look at the head. Are they moving around? Or they just
locked in on one guy? I don't know at this point if Zach Wilson sees the field well enough.
He doesn't have a great offensive line. Now he faces the bills. I wish the kid the very best
of luck against that pass rush. But is there something with Zach Wilson that worries you or you like?
Because sometimes I watch that coaching staff and they're taking the ball out of his hands,
which is a warning sign to me.
What does the film say?
Yeah, I would agree with you.
I think the film shows that he doesn't see the field with the needed clarity at this point.
I think he needs to settle down as a pocket quarterback.
A couple of things stand out on film.
He's too lazy and slow with his drop and set into the pocket.
That needs to get quicker.
He's much too reactive to what he perceives as pressure,
but is not pressure by NFL standards.
So he needs to develop a far better sense
of pocket feel and presence.
He's too frenetic.
He moves too much.
His feet, while they're really light and athletic, need to settle down.
So he has a ways to go in that regard.
Now, he shows flashes.
We know, as you do, because you're a quarterback guy,
we know he's got a wippy arm.
We know he can make throws.
We know on occasion that he'll make a special throw because he's that kind of talent.
But the details of the position are really need work.
And right now he's a little bit of a chaotic player.
Yeah, when I watch the film on, like that play, he looks like a kid that doesn't want to get hit.
He just, he perceives pressure when it's not there.
He doesn't want to get hit in his conference in college.
It's not the NFL.
He doesn't, he's not.
And he's small.
And I'm sorry, Colin, they're giving it, they're giving him very basic reads.
I mean, I make a note of this stuff when I watch the tape and, you know, the reads,
the basic route concepts that are in everybody's playbook, that they're giving him,
that it's basically you read one guy and he's even struggling with that right now.
Wow. So Seattle beat the Cardinals, 19-9 week six, face each other again.
I will say this. Seattle had a heck of a draft. They found a couple of great corners, an edge rusher.
Their defense, it's fun to watch. It reminds me. It is. It's not that it's the one,
the Legion of Boom, but there are elements of its length and its speed and its youth that remind me a little bit of it eight, nine, ten years ago, whenever that was.
What do you see with that defense in the Arizona matchup?
Yeah, now it's funny you say that because they're not a big blitz team, which neither was the Legion of Boom. And we're obviously not making an apples to apples comparison, but just talking stylistically how they play. They're coverage based for the most part. They don't blitz a ton. It would probably surprise a lot of people, but this is a tape comment. But Ryan Neal is the safety who plays with Conrad Diggs. He's the safety who replaced Jamal Adams. He's a better player than Jamal Adams. And that's helped them tremendously. But they've been very
Very good up front.
They're aggressive.
And they have long corners.
Pete Carroll, as you know, has always liked long corners.
So they've got Wollum, the rookie is 6'4.
They got Michael Jackson, who came out of the University of Miami a few years ago.
He's about 6.1 and a half.
And they like that.
And even the slot corner, Kobe Bryant, who played opposite Ahmad Gardner at Cincinnati,
he's over six feet as well.
So they have what they want.
And now they're getting pass rush, which they didn't get earlier in the season.
and they're playing a team, quite honestly, that struggles with protection.
Now we know Hopkins is back, and that changes their offense clearly for the better,
but they struggle with protection.
Okay.
The Titans Sunday.
I want to talk about Tennessee because I love Vrable, but I feel like he doesn't have the right quarterback.
He doesn't have the right receivers.
Derek Henry's getting older.
I feel like he's one of those coaches that just he needs more good players,
and I think he does a great job of squeezing every ounce out of what he has.
This is not a shot at the Titans.
What do you see when you watch them?
Well, ultimately the way they play, and maybe it's the way they have to play,
that's a different question.
Certainly they did this week when Willis played, but even with Tannenhill,
they're lacking at receiver.
But even if they had receivers, the question is,
is that the way you can play in the NFL to beat the bills, to beat the Chiefs,
to beat, let's assuming Cincinnati is at their best?
Can you beat those teams playing that way?
And that's a discussion that a lot of people would have.
And most, I think, would say no, that you can't be a champion in today's NFL with your
run game being such a strong foundation like that.
Now, they have no choice right now.
But they're going to need to be far more aggressive throwing the ball.
They're going to need to create more big plays in the passing game.
They can't simply rely on Derek Henry.
Obviously, they just played the worst run defense in the league.
32 carries for over 200 yards. That's not going to happen every week.
Yeah. No, I mean, it is interesting as I watch them.
There are times I love the coach and not the players, and sometimes I love the players and not the coach,
and I think there's limitations. I want to ask you about Jalen Hertz, Steelers, and the Eagles.
And I didn't think Nick Sariani's opening press conference. I thought it was brutal.
And I had some questions about whether he could be the guy. He just didn't, I didn't feel like
that guy could jump in front of 55 guys and lead men through a tunnel. He looked nervous.
and then Jalen Hertz.
I was like, he's small, I don't know.
What do you make on film of Hertz against the Steelers?
I mean, they usually do a pretty good job defensively.
What did you see?
Yeah, you know, the Eagles are really interesting offense
because they're not that complex when you think of the things that they do.
They actually work off some basic concepts,
and then they add tweaks to those concepts.
And, you know, Hertz has been very efficient.
Obviously, he made some outstanding deep ball throws last week.
two in particular to Brown that you couldn't have handed the ball to Brown any better.
And we may have discussed this, but it just raises so many questions in my mind about
quarterback evaluation, even when I do it.
Yeah.
Because Jaylon Hertz was benched at Alabama because he couldn't throw.
And now he's in the NFL making pretty darn good throws.
You know, and I think their offense is kind of fun to watch.
And the run game element is critical because that puts stress on defenses, challenges them, forces
them, forces them to do certain things that allow for very defined reeds and throws for Jalen
Hertz. Yeah. So let's go to your big play of the week with Hertz and A.J. Brown.
Yeah, and this was a third down play. So let's take a look at it. This was the second touchdown
that he threw to A.J. Brown. And you can see, this is what I was talking about. You couldn't
have placed this ball any better. This was a beautifully thrown ball, dropped it in the bucket.
Well, let's look at this from Hertz's perspective. He's in the shotgun here. As I said,
It's third and long.
So what is he looking at, Colin?
He sees six defenders in the box.
So he knows that there could be some pressure here, and he wants to make sure he's set.
Now, he also sees that he has two wide receivers, Watkins and Brown.
Man, press man, one-on-one.
Look where the safety is.
He would certainly not be a factor on A.J. Brown running vertically.
But to make sure he's protected, what's he going to do?
Bring Goddard back into the backfield.
Now he knows for sure that he's protected against anything.
form of pressure. And you can see that because there are seven potential past protectors.
The safety didn't move at all. So now what do you have? You have A.J. Brown one-on-one on Witherspoon
on a vertical route. As good as Fitzpatrick is, he's not getting there on a throw near the
pylon. So Hertz knew this all along. He confirmed it before the snap and then he made a beautiful
throw. You know, as I said, not a difficult concept, but just really smart play and a beautiful
throw and you can see it here in the 101. Look at that. It's just you couldn't, you couldn't have
handed it to him any better than that. Greg CoSell, Azzo was on a Thursday. Great seeing you,
ma'am. Thanks. Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it. You bet. Yeah, Philadelphia is, you know, in college football,
it's so funny. They're just kids. And yet, we define them by week four. Like I said, Clemson
doesn't impress me yet, but they got, you know, six, seven more weeks. They're kids. You know,
in the NFL, you kind of expect teams to kind of be what they are. They're grown men.
Jalen Hertz is a great example.
Nick Sariani.
They're growing into their job.
And last year you're like, well, there's something there.
Obviously, Nick Seriani and Jalen Hertz worked their butts off in the off season because they just look.
I mean, that, and again, Howie Roseman did a great job.
A.J. Brown's fantastic, obviously.
But, I mean, it's like you are watching young people grow.
They're not defined.
They're still figuring out what they are.
It's like, you know, Zion, he's trying to get his weight down.
He's trying to figure out his body.
Forget his games.
So it's like, I think sometimes we show up on Mondays on the show and we have these big, defiant opinions.
And it's like, these are young men, young women growing into their roles, figuring out who they are, playing with teams.
And now sports is so transactional.
God, you wake up at the trade deadline, Tuesday.
What day do we have?
Was it Tuesday show?
You got a different defensive end on the team.
Niners are like, all right, we got Christian McCaffrey on the team.
So young guys, new players, new offense, new concepts.
This stuff just, college and pro football, teams change.
New England did a, Belichick and Brady were never great in September.
That was their bad month.
And they tweak and tweak and tweak and they build it for post Thanksgiving.
I think Green Bay is actually going to be pretty interesting post Thanksgiving.
They're obviously with Aaron Rogers and the kid receivers, they're just not ready right now.
They're just these kids aren't ready to go from FCS schools to the Minnesota Vikings on the road.
They're not ready yet.
Do you like the Eagles enough to lay 14?
two touchdowns on the road tonight
Thursday night football.
Yeah.
So do I.
Brandon Cooks isn't playing.
Yeah, Brandon Cooks is out
and Nico Collins, the number two receiver,
also out.
Yeah, Philadelphia rolls.
Yeah, this should be a bloodbath.
If it's not, it would be one of the biggest upsets of the season.
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A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care which I'm saying.
Yep.
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You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
or my career in sports media.
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Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.
I know what you're thinking.
What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?
Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
I'm Sam J.
And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down,
and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill,
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To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because,
of crack.
I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know.
I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.
We also have AIDS on the table right now.
Thank you finishing that sentence.
Yes.
I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Really?
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For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
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Because people scoreboard watch.
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The Astros tied up the World Series in Game 4 as Houston starter, Christian Javier,
and the bullpen combined for the second no-hitter in World Series history.
An explosive fifth inning was all the Astros needed to even the series at two apiece.
Tonight, the Billy's offense will look to get back on track in their final home game of this season.
Coverage begins of Game 5 at 7 Eastern 4 Pacific on Fox and the Fox Sports app.
How about this for an idea?
Charge people $8 for Twitter.
Charge me $1,000.
If you own a company, you pay $1,000 to Twitter,
and I have the right to give away my own content.
The consumer has to pay $8 a month, because all these companies want to drive.
I mean, Hulu charges you, Disney charges you, NBC Peacock charges you,
shouldn't be able to get free content.
So Twitter should charge $8.
It's another revenue stream.
But charge companies like me, Fox, ESPN, charge them,
and they, that allows them to give out their own content.
The toughest part with that is they've been giving it away for free for so long.
It's like newspapers.
We're like giving it away free online.
Then they put up paywalls and people are like, I'm not paying for what I was reading for free.
That's false.
The New York Times is quality.
New York Times got a paywall?
They're doing just fine.
New York Times and Washington Post are doing it.
Bloomberg opinion.
How about everyone else?
People will go if they perceive it as quality.
There's so many freeloaders on the Internet.
they don't do their own content.
Get rid of the bots and the mean people and the racist and the garbage free loaders
and the grifters.
I'd pay a thousand bucks a month for my company, the volume, or Fox Sports, for the right
to put my stuff out and give it to the consumer for free, free being $8 a month.
That's up to Twitter.
But all these companies, all this streaming stuff, they're not going to give stuff away
for free.
Get rid of the freeloers.
Get rid of the grifters.
Get rid of all the people that are, you know, I mean, there's like, there's, there's no
copyright anymore.
I mean, it doesn't exist.
But in the end, if you want to get rid of the.
the bot shrink Twitter significantly a barrier to entry on anything.
I just wondered.
Yeah, if Elon Musk is going to want to shrink something he just bought that has been
hemorrhaging cash for years, I think he wants to up the number of people using it.
So he's not going to do anything about the bots.
I don't think.
I think he's just going to deal with it.
Barrier to entry always cleans situations up.
100%.
So just put some barriers up to it and watch the bots disappear when they got to pay that kind
of money.
But I would charge companies and myself.
I'd charge me a lot of money.
I would absolutely pay it because it would shrink just a messy situation where it's just awful and it's not.
It's everybody's grifters out there.
You want to get as many of the grifters off.
Charge them a thousand bucks a month to put out content.
To put out content, you got to charge a thousand a month.
You don't think companies are going to do that?
People will pay for quality.
The only people watching, the only people with an audience on Twitter, the only real people,
truthfully, 99% of the people with an audience are major companies, major media,
major celebrities, major politicians.
They can afford it. Don't soak the public.
Charge them $8 a month. Don't soak the public,
but soak the companies.
Yeah.
Make them pay because these companies,
streaming companies, aren't giving it away for free.
New York Times isn't giving it away.
LA Times isn't giving it away.
None of these.
Well, why should Twitter give it away?
Yeah.
All right.
J-Mac with the news.
No, no, no, no.
Turn on the news.
This is the herd line news.
Miami Dolphins big one this weekend,
and they will debut their new,
shiny toy in Bradley Chubb. They locked him into a five-year
$110 million extension. Word. He's going to stay in Miami through
2027. Hey, you can do that when you got the rookie
quarterback on the rookie deal. He gets 63.2 million
in guaranteed money. Now, Denver couldn't do that,
right, because they've got Russell Wilson making tons of money.
Colin, you know, Miami Super Bowl contender, you know,
they're not in that top tier, we would have. Well, but they've got a lot of
good, do they have six great plays?
I would say, yes.
Left tackle, Bradley Chubb, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, Howard.
They got about five or six great players, so I think that puts them in a pretty elite class.
So it's Bill's Chiefs, and then they're in the next group with Baltimore.
Are the Chargers in there?
No, God, no.
I don't know if they're well coached right now.
Have you seen the injury report for this week against the Falcons coming off the bi?
Chargers, I don't know what I think about the Chargers.
So it's Ravens, Bengals, Dolphins in that second group.
Jets are not quite there.
No, they're not quite there.
Okay, I tried, folks.
Oh, look at this story out of the L.A. Rams.
Cam Acres is going to try to work it out with the Rams.
Remember, he's been in the doghouse for a while.
I think you've had some stuff on that.
A couple other guests have reported on it.
But Cam Akers did not get traded at the deadline.
He is set to return to practice today after missing the last two games.
McVeigh said he's been very encouraged by the conversations he's had with Akers.
and there's still the possibility that Acres is released,
but they're going to continue to discuss options going forward.
That's kind of mealy-mouthed from McVeigh.
Yeah, it's a bit of messy situation.
And I was told, I asked somebody that knows the situation,
that Cam Acres has always had a high opinion on Cam Acres,
and it has no has been shared by all the coaches and teammates.
So you've got to block, you've got to do the little things,
you've got to put the time into practice.
He has talent, but he's got a fumble issue.
At least he, I like him.
he gives them juice that's right now. They don't have a guy that has that kind of juice.
I think he's a good player. But those fumbles against Tampa changed a lot of opinions in that
organization. And this is a guy who was highly recruited coming out of high school, goes to FSU as a
star, and then he goes to the NFL, and it's almost like he's being told you're not a star,
dial it back, and he's just not dealing with that well. They got a kid out of Notre Dame
guy that Kyron Williams. You know, if you play fantasy, you might want to pick him up. McVeigh
loves him. He's a practice worker, but he's not ready to come back off IR.
Cam Acres could be released and on the market.
Is that somebody you think teams would go after if you're looking for a running back to?
I mean, if Sean McVeigh, who's a player's coach, can't make it work,
does every other coach in the league go?
Well, McVeigh gets along with all his players.
So McVeys got a guy that he can't get along with.
Isn't that a little bit of a warning sign?
I don't think, did Acres have a market?
I mean, I'm sure they shopped him around.
Well, I don't think anybody wanted to trade for him, but to pick him up and take a chance.
Well, I mean, he's talented.
But he's small, and his fumble issues are concerning.
Like you, I've watched the games.
Those fumbles against Tampa literally almost lost them a shot.
They had the playoff.
That would have been a blowout win.
And he fumbled right before half, then he fumbled later.
Belichick's special if he hits the market.
Bill Belichick.
Damien Harris always hurt.
They like Stevenson, but Cam Acres in New England makes sense.
Finally, the Cincinnati Bengals, Colin, your guy, Joe Burrow,
they had their worst offensive performance of the season against the Browns.
I think they were down 25-0.
Just a beat-down.
All of a sudden, four and four, Joe Burroughs like, hey, hey, hey, this is the season, ups and downs, folks.
Yeah, it's part of the job and it's something that you adapt to.
It's tough at the beginning, but as you play more football and you have more experience under your belt,
you learn how to handle it.
Just like, you know, last week we were the best offense in the league,
and now all of a sudden we stink, and everyone thinks we're going to miss the playoffs
and we're going to lose all these games.
So it's such a roller coaster each week, and I think part of being quarterback is staying even,
even keel throughout the season, throughout games, because everything is so up and down, and you
kind of need that voice and that level-headed mindset on the team, and that's part of your job
as quarterback.
The price and privilege to be a great player, to be a great anything, is criticism.
He's relevant.
The bingles are irrelevant.
Joe Burrell arrives, the bingles are relevant.
That's the privilege and price of being relevant.
The burroughs, now we talk about the bingles on Monday.
Nobody did for 15 years.
We didn't talk about Andy Dalton.
So, I mean, the bottom line is we talk about them because the standards are up because Joe Burrell's great.
Taylor Swift gets ripped constantly.
I mean, that's the price for being Taylor Swift.
Burl has made this franchise completely relevant.
Yes, but as regard to the offense, Colin, no Jamar Chase.
They look very ordinary.
You mentioned Dallas without CD Lamb.
Carolina's going to Cincinnati this weekend.
Carolina is about a touchdown underdog.
I have a feeling we'll be talking about this game on Friday.
I mean, I don't know if you're looking at it,
but this Bengals, I'm just telling you,
this looks like a very ordinary team
and the defense lost their number one cornerback for the season.
Very tasty.
I know, you love the Bengals.
Blazing five tomorrow, by the way.
Good stuff, J-Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
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A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what I'm saying.
Yep, that's me, CliverTaylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.
Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.
The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations,
stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,
this is right what you need to be.
Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more behind the scenes,
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Do you remember when Diana Ross
double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.
I know what you're thinking.
What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?
Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
I'm Sam Jek.
And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.
To be clear, 84's big to me, not just because of crack.
I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know.
I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.
We also have AIDS on the table right now.
Thank you for finishing that sentence.
I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Really?
Yeah.
For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.
I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark.
Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing,
we get so wrapped up in the chase
that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing
and we're still chasing it
and we don't know when we've done enough.
Because people scoreboard watch.
Life becomes about wins and losses.
Steve Burns, Dustin Ross,
because you find it important to be a good person
while you hear on earth,
or are you a good person because you're afraid?
Because that's two different intentions, bro.
Absolutely.
And that's two different levels of trust.
I want you to just really be a good person.
Join me, Kear Gaines,
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Tom Verducci is just an Emmy award-winning machine,
but he's too humble to talk about it.
Best baseball analyst out there, Fox Sports.
Okay, I'm watching that game last night.
and I think to myself, they're just not going to get a hit off this guy.
I mean, he was just magical.
And I do wonder, that big blow-up inning for Houston, I'm like,
ooh, does it change this series?
So let's start with a no-hitter.
Does it mean anything?
Does it resonate beyond just last night tonight, or is Philly now?
They couldn't hit anybody.
Does it mean something?
Yeah, not going forward.
But, you know, listen, talking to Dusty Baker after the game,
I'm not sure if you caught that interview.
Did you see that smile on his face?
Yeah, they tied.
the series, but these guys know the weight of history and how important that game was when it
comes to a historical event just on its own. The second no-hitter in World Series history, these
guys were pumped up about it, and they should be. I mean, Christian Javier, this was like, here's
my fastball guys, see if you can hit it, and all night they could. Yeah. He threw 97 pitches, Colin,
by the way, that's exactly as many as Don Larson threw in 1956. That was a complete game, obviously.
70 fastballs.
I mean, I have never seen a World Series game with one pitcher with one pitch, shutting down a lineup that had been hot.
And that's the concern, Colin.
Yeah, it's now 12 innings without a run for Phillies.
Oh, for the last 36.
So it's not just about Christian Javier.
They've been having troubles with that Houston bullpen.
Okay, let's just ask the question.
Is Philly too reliant on the long ball?
I don't think so.
I think that's a good thing, Colin.
The problem is those arms in that Houston bullpen.
are just ridiculous.
I mean, this whole postseason, they've allowed four runs,
and they've all been on solo home runs.
So it's hard to string hits together against the Houston Penn.
So they're going to have to get to Justin Verlander early
or try to ambush a fastball and hit a home run late in the game
because you're just not going to get a rally against the Houston Penn.
Justin Verlander, game five.
So again, you know, seven, eight years ago I knew what I was getting.
He's an older pitcher, a lot of innings,
but I do trust him in big spots.
What do you think we get, Game 5, Verlander?
I don't know. That's kind of scary, right?
It's a legacy game for Justin Verlander.
He has the worst DRA in World Series history.
0 and 6 with a 607.
That's the only thing missing on this guy's Hall of Fame resume.
Great pitcher, but it's weird.
There's not a reason for it.
He's pitched in the World Series when he was a rookie at 22, 23.
He's in the World Series now at 39, so you can't tell me there's a pattern,
but it's weird that each time he gets the ball in the world series anyway,
he's not been at his best.
Now in game one, he had no breaking ball.
Once we can miss on a breaking ball in game one,
the fewest than 70 starts for Justin.
It was weird.
He went away from his fastball,
so I think what you're going to see tonight,
especially based on what we saw from Javier last night,
old school Justin Berlander.
Here it is, boys, see if you can hit my heater.
Yeah.
Because I don't think he's going to find the answer to the slider and curbst.
That quickly, if he does, great.
I mean, he's going to be unhittable.
But I think he's going to have to start with the fastball and stay with the fastball.
Yeah.
Listen, people bang on Kershaw, but there is something to be said when you go to the postseason
and you get to the sixth, seventh inning, you're facing the best teams, the best
lineups, the best hitters.
It's hard.
Bryce Harper, I think the story is amazing.
I remember the cover on Sports Illustrated.
He feels so connected to this city and this team.
But when you stack stuff up, there's an argument.
that Houston's the better team.
Does Harper literally have to like push the jet fuel button and just carry this team?
If he didn't hit well the rest of the series, can they win?
No.
I mean, they could, but I think the odds are really against them because he means so much to this team.
And he does have a knack for coming through in the big moments, right?
Now, what's happening with Houston, this is really fascinating, Colin.
In the World Series, the Astros are throwing Bryce Harper,
81% fastballs.
I mean, nobody throws,
he's a great fastball hitter,
but their fastballs are so good.
They're challenging him up in the zone with fastballs,
and he's one for 10 against fastballs in the World Series.
Justin threw him one non-fastball in game one,
and he got a single on it.
That was a slider.
So the pattern is, pitch him up in the zone with fastballs.
He is going to have to adjust, Colin.
At this point, I think Bryce has got to understand
the Astros are throwing me fastballs.
I have to get on top of that pitch.
But I do think he's got another moment.
him because it's been that kind of a postseason run for Bryce Harper.
All right. Tom Berduci, four-time Emmy winner, covered baseball for more than 30 years.
Fox Sports will be watching, Tom. Thanks.
Should be fun. Thanks, Colin.
You bet. Yeah, it's different when I was watching it last night.
When you're rooting for one guy to throw a no hitter, it feels different.
But when you want you to go to the pen and it's multiple guys, it doesn't feel the same.
It wasn't as engaging to me.
How weird is tonight in sports? So, uh, Houston Astro,
Philadelphia, Phillies, and baseball in Philadelphia, Houston, Texans, Philadelphia, Eagles, and football in Houston.
That's kind of wild, right? I don't know if we've ever had that.
Two cities, different sports, same night, same time.
Philadelphia, I honestly feel like it's weird in the NFL.
We're getting these lines on games it feels like over the last several years as it's become such a quarterback-driven sport that, you know, like tonight you get Jalen Hertz and
that offense and then you get Houston's offense. And I very rarely would I ever bet a huge number
in the NFL. I like underdogs. By and large, I take four of them every week. Tonight's the rare,
what's the line on that game? Fourteen. I would take the favorite. And I know it's just a
ridiculous bet. You're never supposed to take a huge road favorite, like the wise guys, I'll tell you
that. Philadelphia is just mowing through people and it's such an offensive mismatch.
They have so many weapons. There's another one of those Sunday. Bill,
at Jets. I'm not touching it. Divisional matchup.
I think it's 12 and a half, but there is some Jets money coming
because there's some bills injuries that are happening right now.
We'll see.
I won't bet that game and I won't bet tonight's.
I stay away from these, but I'm telling you if it was like I had to.
I mean, I just don't like, it's a college number.
I can't bet tonight.
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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast, Superhuman, documented it all,
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Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what I'm saying.
Yep, that's me.
Clifford Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey,
or my career in sports media.
Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement
to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
This is a place for raw,
unfilled of conversations with athletes,
creators, and voices that not only deserve
to be heard, but celebrated.
So let's get to it.
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For 1979, that was a big moment for me.
84 was big to me.
I'm Sam Jay and I'm Alex English.
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and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends,
fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
It was a wild year.
It was a wild year.
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