The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Niners, Green

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

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A little bit of trouble for the Warriors. Joy is much more optimistic this morning, it sounds like to me on the Warriors. You're a lot more optimistic. Well, I thought this series was going to go seven. So in order for it to go seven, the Warriors are going to have to lose some games. That's how the math works on it. Yeah. And, you know, I didn't love seeing Steph a little banged up.

That was scary. I also didn't really understand what the refs were doing there. I feel like that loose ball went on forever. Way longer than it needed to. It was actually dangerous. Yeah, like, I moved on from the refs being, like, the issue. But, like, what are you doing? That loose ball, Steph clearly had possession of it.

And then it rolled over. Like, it was too much. That was a dangerous situation. I don't think it was a dirty play, but that made me nervous. But no, I think it's, look, where is it? have been in six of the last eight finals. You're going to lose some games. I think it'll go long.

All right, so Draymond Green was not very good. He talked on his podcast after the game about his really, really tough night against the Celtics in game three. Tonight may have been one of the worst games in my career. Honestly, I totally outsmarted myself and coming into the game. You know, you hear all the chatter and you hear all the noise. But I think for me, I just

let too much noise get into my head about all the other stuff. And so in turn, I let that drag my intensity level down. I let it, you know, I'm going into the game like, all right, you know, I'm not going to say this. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to get a referee's a chance to call a tech and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He let the refs get in this. And I did the exact opposite of what I said I was going to do or what I needed to do. So he let the the refs get into his head. Refs do not decide championships. I know you think fanboys, they do.

They don't. You really think the refs wanted Dirk Novitsky and the mostly nameless, faceless mavericks to beat Wade and LeBron? You really think they were rooting for that? You think they wanted small market Milwaukee, not big market Philly or sexy Miami or great brand Boston? They were really rooting last year for the Milwaukee Box.

Okay. Yeah. There are just some things players shouldn't care much about, and it should be the officials, and all they do is jaw with them. All of them. I mean, in my business, there are things I absolutely care about. I'll give you one. Revenue.

I want my companies, Fox, Premier Radio, my podcast network. When the revenue, that's what I look at, not ratings, revenue. Because when the revenue is pouring in, the boss. The bosses upstairs are happy, the owners are happy, my employees are happy. And then there are things I don't worry about. Hate mail. Uncle Collins done great for 30 years. Half my audience has always despised me.

It has no impact. Revenue has huge impact. Referees don't decide championships. Steph Curry's easily the most well-known player in this series, and he got a horrible tic-tack foul called against him last night. You think the refs are pulling for the community and Robert Williams and Derek White over Steph, the big brand and the Warriors? No, it's just their officials.

What about Tim Donegie? What about him? There's bad people everywhere, even in officiating. He got kicked out. If you look at the history of the NBA, look at who's been bad for 30 years. The Knicks, now the last nine, most. the Lakers, and yet Memphis is flourishing, and Utah is the number one seed, and Milwaukee won a championship.

Referees do not, do not decide championships. They make good calls and bad calls, almost like you when you go to work. Players have good games and bad games. Executives make great trades and bad trades. Oh, what a shocker. Officials have bad calls. That does not mean things are rigged or they're leaning. Steph Curry had a terrible call against him last night, and he,

is easily the biggest television draw in this series. And the Warriors have been in so many finals for so many years. They have such a massive brand. They can charge double what almost everybody in the league can for tickets. When they come into your arena, your team charges more for warrior tickets. Wouldn't they, the refs, be giving them every call last night? Boston's physicality pushed Golden State around was allowed. Draymond made the mistake that players do all the time.

refs do not have the influence you think. They're not deciding championships. Certainly don't let them get in your head. And with that Antoine Walker, Fox Sports NBA analyst, he's got a ring. You know, I said last night he's not a star per se, but Robert Williams, when he's on the floor, the Warriors can't score in the paint, period. And so they become basically a jump shooting team. I think Robert Williams has a massive influence.

his plus minus last night was best on both teams. Now, he gets hurt. He can give you about 25 minutes. He can't give you 35. But how do you solve that? How does Golden State solve the Robert Williams issue? Well, they're not going to be able to solve it, at least not this year. Because of obviously they don't have anybody on the roster that can come in and put any pressure on them.

You got two non-scores at the 4-and-5 in Kavon, Loney and Draymond Green. So that makes Robert Williams even better because now he doesn't have to hold on or latch on to those two guys. He can help out and challenge shots at the rim. And he had a monster block shot there in the second half. Just getting second chance opportunities, not allowing them to get second chance up. Because Golden State flourishes off second chance opportunities. He does a great job of stopping that. Are you surprised or perhaps how surprised with you,

with the struggles of Jason Tatum in three straight games? I don't think he struggled. I thought last night was his best game. What he was able to do in the fourth quarter, as far as putting his head down, making the right play, he struggles a little bit at times during the game where he gets in the corner and he's not aggressive. But I thought last night, he continued to be aggressive as the game went along.

Even when Golden State Man, they run, he came out that fourth quarter and took advantage of mismatches, driving to the basket, did not settle for three-point shots like he's done in the past. And I thought that was a difference in the fourth quarter because he was able to attack the basket, got to the free throw line a couple times. So I thought last night was his best game. Clay Thompson, is this what he is going forward? Do you expect him to be better next year?

But he's not scoring down low because of Williams. His shot, you know, he was bad early, then good, bad third, then good. is this kind of what Clay is going forward? Do you keep him for the next three years? Do you bring him back? Because if he's not going to be an elite defender, we know Steph isn't. Now you've got a halt. We know Jordan Poole isn't.

I mean, what's their future if you are running the Warriors on Clay Thompson? It's tough. And I thought Clay was good last night. He was aggressive. He was determined to have a better game. He did do that. They have to bring him back next year. We have to understand.

He's been going for a couple years. with really serious injuries. And we're expecting him just to bounce back and be the same clear of, oh, it takes time. And I think it'll be, it'll be, you know, this justice for us to go out and say that, hey, we need Claire to be this superhero that we saw him be and be the same Splash brother that we saw a couple years ago. It's not going to be the same. So I think this year was great for him to be back in the mix and to be able to make a deep run

like they're making in the finals right now. I can't see him nothing but getting better next year. So, you know, listen, international soccer, fans can be just awful with players taunting them. So when Draymond's getting cursed and they're, you know, they're doing the T-shirts, my takeaway is, you know, this is kind of what happens. And, you know, Draymond, he doesn't mind poking fans either. So, you know, he gets all worked up in that too. You were at the arena last night. Is it crossing a line?

Does it bother you? What do you make of the fans, Draymond, and that current relationship? I mean, it's tough when they're using curse words to go at them. I mean, obviously you prefer just something basic and just boring on when he gets the ball or something of that nature. But Draymond, he's put this on itself.

And Colin, you know that. He's doing a lot of talking. He's doing his podcast after the games. Game two, he spent the whole game, getting into alter cases with just about every billion on the Celtics roster. So he's put this on itself. So unfortunately, this is the part of the game. This is the finals. This is the finals. Boston fan base, they're engaging. This is a tough crowd to play on. They're going to get on you. And you got to be ready to accept it. You've got to block it out and

go out and play. So it's unfortunate that you got to deal with it because obviously, these are some cruel fans here in Boston. They go right at you. And they were at them. I mean, the chat was not nice. Obviously, I can't say it on TV. But it was definitely, hostile and 18, 20,000 people were going at them. Who would you if you, I'm not really an awards guy, but if you had to give the MVP of the series, who would you give it to this morning? I like Jalen Brown. Yeah.

I just think he's been the one rock for the Celtics. I thought the way he got started out the game yesterday, setting the tone, being aggressive, getting him Draymond Green and foul trouble, even Steph Curry. He just was terrific last night. And he was great in game one in that fourth quarter and Moundadette comeback for the section to be able to win game one. So I think, you know, obviously the talk is all about Steph and Jason Tatum, but Jalen Brown is, it would be my guy right now after three games. Yeah. The, do you think the Warriors are cooked?

I mean, they're underdogs again in game four. It's hard to come back three one. When you're sitting there last night, you're on the floor, you're watching close. There was a moment for me last night when I'm watching all these non-star. for the Celtics produce and the non-stars for the Warriors not producing. And I said to myself, it's like eight against five. It's just different. I mean, do you feel the Warriors are done?

I don't think they're done. They're too good of a team to be done. But I do think they're going to lose this series in six games. I talked about this before the series started. And I truly believe this, the Celtics depth, they have more depth than Golden State. When you think about when you get production, you just talked about it. one Robert Williams. Last night, I thought Grant Williams was terrific last night.

And then minutes to he play. Marcus Smart, I said, was the X Factor. He comes off a two-point performance. It gives you 24, 7 and 5. He plays great defense in the fourth quarter. I mean, they can go deep down their bench. Derek White in game one. I just feel like the depth of Boston will wear them out.

And then the physicality. We saw last night Boston dominate the paint, dominate inside, and Golden State. not going to get any bigger as the season the series goes along. They're going to be the same size. And it's unfortunate, Germain White Green's inability to score the basketball and Loney really hurts Golden State because they make them easier their guard in the pick and roll. You can get out on Steph and Clay and be aggressive and on Jordan Pool because they're throwing back to non-scores. And I think that's what the self has had the advantage of.

You know, it's interesting. Jay A. Donde, a journalist who's covered the league forever and now he runs the Northwestern Journalism School, Madill in Chicago was on. And he said, you know, they may have, they maybe should have moved James Wiseman because they don't want to give up Cominga, but he's not ready to play. They don't want to give up Moody. He's not ready to play. They don't want to give up Wiseman either. But you get to a point where those guys may not be ready until Draymond and Clay are too old. So you have this like, like you got to get everybody that's on Steph's timeline. To some degree, you got to be lined up when Steph can be highly productive. So like James Wiseman, number two pick. I'm watching video last night,

seven-footer, beautiful jumper. Should they have moved him for another productive player, or would you stick with him and his high ceiling, which may not be realized for four years? I think it was hard because I don't know if they was trying to see if Clay was going to come back and see how good they really can be. I don't think they expected Jordan Poole to be as good as he was during the season. and he turns out to be a stud. Now you're looking at, hey, we could be in the final. So I think now moving forward, they know what they got in front of them. They know they're going to have to address the size.

And Looney's a free agent. So you could possibly lose him in the free agent market. So I don't think you can just give up on Wison right away. And, Colin, you made a point about the rookies, the two rookies for Golden State. How are we not ready? He has yet to play him. He played him in other series. Are you scared to play him now because it's the finals?

you never know if they're ready if you don't give them an opportunity. So I can't just say those guys are not ready to play. He's went away from them and went back to his veterans. Give those guys a shot and see what happens. It's been a fun series. I've got to be honest. It's been a really fun series. You know, it's got everything.

I've got a star. I've got Draymond talking. I've got a great brand. I've really enjoyed it. Whether or not, I don't know if America enjoys it. Who do you like? you like Friday night? I think I like Boston, but I think it's really,

really close. I think it's going to be super close. What do you foresee for Friday, game four? If step injuries has any type of seriousness to it, I like Boston, I just think if he's hurt and he says the same injury that he had,

he's just coming off up, it's going to be tough for him because he has to, he has to have his quickness, he has his mobility to be able to come on screens. And we know Steph does a lot of moving around without the ball. So if he's not able to run and cut and do the things he wants to do, they're going to be in trouble because Golden State has yet to find that second and third score. I know Clay was better yesterday, but Jordan Poole has yet to arrive in this series.

And I don't know if they can muster up enough points or get enough guys going offensively to be able to hang with the Celtics, especially with the Celtics being at home. Antoine Walker. Do you have good seats, by the way, Antoine? Where are you sitting for the series? On the floor, that's pretty good. Antoine. You're the best. All right. Good talking to you.

All right. Antoine Walker. I love Antoine. Yeah, it's fun. I think this series has been absolute blast. I'm bummed out. Tonight there's no game. So, Ann's out of town.

I tried on a bunch of vests last night at home. So I got, I have nothing to do tonight. So my dogs are with Anne. And so I got no, no animals. I call my daughter, you want to go? There's a fancy cool play. She's like, I'm busy. I mean, what's going on with me?

I don't know. I have no idea. Did you finish your show? Yeah, I finished the offer on Paramount Plus. I got nothing. I think tonight would be a good night to watch one of those movies that you haven't gotten around to. Or try on more vests. One more herd?

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His name is Trey Lance, and the 49ers gave up a lot of draft picks to move up and get him. and is he ready to play? Steve Young is now helping. Why won't they get rid of Jimmy Garoppolo? We think they're well run, but did they make a mistake with the draft pick? Well, Peter Schrager, who works at Fox, was on Good Morning football, and he said, he's hearing very good things. Everything I'm hearing out of the Bay Area is that there's been major strides heading in to year number two.

Jimmy G's not there, and he's kind of been off the radar. Tray Lance is. I'm getting more and more of a feeling that this is Tray Lance's team and he's ready to go. So here's what I know. Size, check. Big strong kid. Athletic ability, check. May not be Kyler Murray, but he can move.

Personality. I've actually met him. Check. Smart kid. Good kid. You got to check about four boxes in the NFL to be a successful quarterback. The one I'm worried about, and it doesn't look very good, is accuracy. he's not a pretty thrower with the football.

Either was Philip Rivers. He doesn't have to be in Kyle Shanahan's system, Drew Brees, but he can't be Cam Newton. So Matt Stafford's career completion percentage is 63. He won a Super Bowl. Josh Allen, 62 and a half, 63. You got to get about there. That's it.

Now, right now he's at 58. Again, he's not a pretty thrower with the football. That's not the be-all end all. I mean, Kyler Murray, to me, throws the prettiest ball in the league. Philip Rivers is the ugliest. Peyton Manning didn't know it's a pretty football. He's just, that's to me the issue. Is that I, four of the five boxes, three of the four boxes,

not only are they checked, they're above average. He's bigger than you need to be. He's more athletic than you need to be. His personality's great, bright kid. That's not it. But the accuracy thing, Tim Tebow, I was never a fan of. Because instantly I knew he can't complete enough throws in this league. He's just not, his wind up is too slow.

It's what's undone, a really talented kid, Sam Darnold. So it's all about the accuracy box. And under Kyle Shanahan, you don't have to be Drew Brees or Kirk Cousins. You don't. You don't have to throw a football like Kyler Murray. But you can't be Cam. Cam's like career completion percentage is really low. It's under 60.

And you just can't be there. So my guess is it's going to work, but man, am I tired of hearing about the process? Show me the money? Show me the starts. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

Show Cooper Cup the money. The Rams and Cooper Cup have come to an agreement on an extension. The deal is for three years, 80 million, with 75 million guaranteed. The 75 million guaranteed is the most for any receiver, which top Tyree. kills $72.2 million guaranteed. He is now under contract through 2026, has two years and 31.5 million left on the extension he signed in 2020. So he is also locked up.

So here's the Rams signings this offseason. Cooper Cup. Aaron Donald, three-year, $95 million contract earlier this week. Matthew Stafford, four-year, $160 million extension earlier this off-season. Bobby Wagner, five years, $50 million. Alan Robinson, three years, 46.5 million. And of course, as I mentioned, Cooper Cup, Super Bowl MVP, first receiver since 2005 to lead the league in catches, receiving yards, and touchdown receptions in 2021. The Rams just do things differently.

It is remarkable. Yeah, and this is also where California has the fifth biggest economy in the world and easily America's biggest economy. And this is the difference between St. Louis. Because Stan Cronkey owned this team in St. Louis and Stan Cronkey owns it now. What's the difference? the game day revenue, the revenue that SoFi produces, not all these owners are equally wealthy. You've got to have the money in the account to write these guaranteed checks.

A couple years ago, the Raiders could not pay bills. They couldn't sign players. They didn't have enough money in the bank as they were moving from Oakland to Vegas. That's why they wanted to move Oakland to Vegas. Bigger game day revenue. More money in the bank. The Rams are the richest team in the league. It's not the Cowboys.

They are the richest team in the league. Their game day revenue is immense. Their owner is the richest owner in the NFL. So when you look at these contracts, half the teams in this league couldn't write them. So even though you have a – The guaranteed part is the important. Because they're right. I mean, that Cooper, they just wrote them a $75 million.

I mean, you're writing massive check after massive check. And fans think it's a salary cap. No, it's not. The game day revenue for a New York Giants game is six times what the Jacksonville Jaguars is. And so this is the difference. I was told, I was told this that the game day revenue in St. Louis was Stan Cronky and the Rams, because he was one of the richest owners there. When they moved to L.A. and they were in the Coliseum where they didn't even have their food and beverage locked up. They made more money their first game in the Coliseum a college stadium than they made in St. Louis significantly.

Now quadrupled their game day revenue by four and five. So this is the issue. This team is so cash heavy. This is what the Warriors are. I know nobody likes California. The advantage the Warriors have over everybody, they are charging so much money for tickets because the Bay Area, the rich people in the Bay Area are so wealthy that they don't care about prices for tickets.

They don't. So for those seats close to the floor, they are a fortune. And they're getting these home playoff games and these home playoffs. games. So simply the Warriors, they don't even, the owner Joe Lacob doesn't care about the money part of it. You know, a lot of these owners, they don't, they're not in Silicon Valley. They don't, they don't have this California game day revenue and these season ticket revenue. Well, also when they're well-run organizations that win, you play in the postseason. So you get

those additional games over and over. That other organizations don't get. And generally, playoff tickets and playoff revenue is higher than the regular season revenue. Look at the guaranteed money the Rams have spent this off season. Just writing guaranteed checks off season. 65 million guaranteed to Aaron Donald, 18 million guaranteed to Bobby Wagner, $135 million guaranteed to Matthew Stafford, $30.75 million guaranteed to Allen Robinson and Cooper Cup, $75 million guaranteed. Jacksonville can't write those checks. But call in the taxes to liberals. God. We're such jerks.

I just can't take you guys seriously. I'm sorry. So there's been some talk about who was the most important piece of the Warriors run from 2016 to 2019. And C.J. McCollum recently said that he doesn't think it was Steph Curry.

There's no debates about who was the best player on that team. We know what was Kevin Durant. Steph knows it was Kevin Durant. Dre deep down, he knows it was Kevin Durant. And obviously Kay knows he was the best player on that team. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, I don't think that's a knock-

on Steph Curry either. I think Kevin Durant was obviously the best player on those teams. Steph Curry has been the consistent best player over this Warriors dynasty. Like there can be levels to this. And that was a different team than the team that we're looking at right now. And the team that won before KD got there. So, I mean, we've talked earlier about how important the role players have been in this finals series.

Like we know what the core is. KD was the best player. But he never actually led the Warriors in scoring in his three regular seasons on the team. Curry did. But they both averaged 26.4 points per game during the 2017-18 campaign. But in the postseason, it was around. Two of the smartest players in league history are D. Wade and Steph Curry. In both instances, with LeBron going to Miami and KD going to Golden State,

D. Wade and Curry immediately acknowledged it's my city, but you're a better player than I am. Right. Westbrook will not allow any other Lakers to bring the ball up. Okay. Self-awareness is huge in this league. Like D. Wade and Steph have had massive success beyond basketball with multiple teams, multiple teammates. They admitted immediately. They suppressed their egos and said, D. Wade, I survived.

a story one time. After about four or five practices, he's like, all right, I can't do that. It's maybe my city and my culture, you're the best player. Half the stars in this league historically struggle with that. Some can never admit that. No, it's definitely, especially when it's been yours to take a step back, is a lot to do. But true winners and guys that understand this is actually still a team game at the end of the day, as much as this is a players league and a star's league, it's a team game. To make those kind of sacrifices, you see the results, but you have to be aware that that's what has to happen. There's always people who try and reinvent how things work, always. Russ has been one of those guys. You're consistently doing the same thing over

and over again, and we keep getting told that you're in this different category, but it's not producing results. So obviously it's not the right way to do things. Now, on the flip side of it, we have guys who are unselfish, who alter their games, who you can look at Carmelo. Carmelo for the longest time, we laughed about being a bench guy. He has completely changed his game. And we look at him differently now.

We're looking at the end of his career and a completely different way. Yeah, Carmelo finally came to terms with, hey, I can be really helpful, but I'm no longer a star. And there's nothing wrong with that. Of course. He's still a legend. He's still a Hall of Famer. and we're not going to forget the contributions that he had when he was. But I think that is so hard.

The fact that Steph and D. Wade could do it near their prime. Yes. Yeah. In their prime. Westbrook now is out of it and he can't do it. Like D. Wade, it's his city. He's in his prime and he's like, I'm going to take a step back. I just think that is.

No, you're right. It's significant. It's very difficult to do. And it shows results. So everyone's outraged. Outrage machine is on, is working over. overtime right now. Golf, golf outrage machine. So the PGA tour suspended 17 members who are competing in the inaugural live golf tournament events, which starts today in London. They

announced the punishment in a memo to players today. Now, this is new because yesterday they said they were going to let them play. So, now they are not going to let them play. So the ones in yellow, the informs the PGA tour that they have resigned their membership. So of course, among these Players are six-time major champ Phil Mickelson, two-time major champion Dustin Johnson, and longtime rider-cut participants, Ian Polter, Lee Westwood and Sergio Garcia. Everyone is outraged. We talked a lot about this yesterday. He talked about it earlier on the show.

Outrage, Joy. Even though all of you are driving to work with Saudi oil in your car, if you really care, buy a Tesla. That phone is from China. If you really care, get off your iPhone. Everybody's outraged with this connection. Blood money. I don't want to diminish the human rights atrocities that are happening or have happened in Saudi Arabia.

But I do think that some perspective is needed here because I'm reading some of the coverage, some of the think pieces surrounding this. And wow. Clutching pearls. Beyond clutching pearls. Well, I've said this for years. The preciousness of golf has always been fascinating to me. I mean, a sport that is arguably the least inclusive over its history. I mean, do we even want to talk about the black players who were not even allowed to participate in the tour?

Yeah. Right? We're just going to miss it. None of that happens. It's a new world now. So we're all precious. The whole situation with Tiger Woods. I mean, oh, how could he lie to us?

A family man. When your entire sports brand is built off of getting away from the wives for the weekend. That's what golf's built on. To hang with the boys. I just, I can't buy into the preciousness of what's happening here for multiple reasons. And it doesn't diminish anything that has happened or is happening. But to hold golfers, to hold athletes, to higher standards than you hold your own governments, and yourself for that matter, because where do you draw your moral line?

If we dig into whose money comes from where, you're using Twitter. 5.2% of Twitter is owned by the same Saudi Prince who has helped fund this, live golf tournament. So are you putting your think pieces on the Twitter machine? Whoa! That's blood Twitter. I mean, I just, where do you draw the line with it? And to be outraged at these golfers, like it's their responsibility to turn down hundreds of millions of dollars,

which you would not turn down, no matter what you tell me, I don't care, I straight up don't believe you. Unless you are a golfer who's on the PJ tour, who's not taking that money that's been offered to you, and it's been offered to you, I don't really want to hear what you have to say. You don't have hundreds of millions of dollars. You're not good enough at anything to ever have someone offer you $100 million to do anything. I can't take you seriously.

And unless this is how you live your life consistently every single day, you draw the line in the sand with everything that is possibly morally questionable. I can't muster up the outrage for this. We have enough going on in our own country to focus on. I can't expect Phil Mickelson and Dustin Johnson to solve Saudi Arabia. just like I don't expect LeBron to do anything for China. That's right. They're not the Avengers, guys.

They're athletes who can use their platforms for good, but them playing or not playing in this is not changing anything that's going on in Saudi Arabia. That's right. Nothing. Nothing. Not a thing. Not one thing. I just,

I don't understand it. Now, to say things, you know, you wouldn't do anything specifically for money or when you make decisions specifically just for money, it doesn't work out. I think that's true.

I do think there is some to that. And who knows how this will end up playing out or what the outcome of this will be. But the preciousness of the coverage that's going on, the names that some of these men are being called from people who would never, ever be in a situation to make a decision like this. I've seen a lot of sports riders sell their soul to get that ESPN check. Suddenly, they're clickmeisters.

Spare me on. I worked at a big company that took a lot of newspaper guys, journalists. And they just came. They got that TV money. and it's like... I'm not encouraging people to not have moral stances or speak about social issues.

I think my reputation precedes me in that space. However, you are not in the situation to turn down $125 million. Yeah. Sorry.

Yeah. So you can say you wouldn't sell your soul but people have sold their soul for far less. Yeah. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Heard Lie News. So I saw this. So Draymond Green was talking about his podcast. He's getting some pushback. That guy's got more podcasts than he does rebounds in this series. All right. So here's Draymond Green kind of, you know, addressing that kind of questioning. I don't say much different on the podcast than I say to you right here.

So, nah. What's the X and O's that I said on the podcast? You all right? He actually asked. The only real thing I noticed that like really stood out, we talked about how to cover white, smart, and horfer differently between games one and two. That was really only. Oh, yeah, that was just contesting shots.

If that's X's and O's, then I'm, you're reaching for something. It's all good, though. Keep going. Reaching heavy. Traditional media, ask better questions, get better answers, so we didn't have to use them only on the podcast. By the way, I strongly encourage you to listen to the podcast. Maybe that reporter is right.

You need to listen to that podcast over and over again. Michael Jordan often played 18 holes on the day of playoff games. You have no idea what players do before games, after games, partying all night. I don't think a podcast is sapping energy from Draymond Green, nor do I think he's giving away trade secrets. 20 minutes of talking, probably not the deciding factor. In fact, I looked it up this morning. Imaidoku, the great young coach for the Celtics,

has six assistant coaches and 11 people on his staff. I doubt he's told any of them, go listen to his podcast. That's how we'll defend him. Oh, yo, yoy. This is the new media where players can go to their hotel room after a game instead of going out and just turn up, turn to switch on, and talk about the series, and then put it out to the world.

I would rather have all these guys on a podcast then at a nightclub, then partying, then golfing, then drinking. The last thing I want my guys to do is be out in the public, potentially getting in trouble. I love the idea of going back to your hotel room, open up your iPad, got a microphone, talk, tells me you're engaged, tells me focused, you're caring about the series, you're talking about the series, you're thinking about the series. I'm going to go with the podcast isn't getting in the way of the finals. But that's just me.

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And I said, leather, she did not like it. She did not approve of this. So I've been experimenting with vests over the last. 24 hours. You have these vests? Oh, well, yes, I've got vests. So let's show some graphics. Let's show, look.

Now, these are potential vests, not terrible. Okay, you look like every network executive in Los Angeles. All right. That's Seattle, Colin. All right, let's go to the next one. That's the leather one I kind of appreciate. You don't like that? You look like you spy on strangers in your free time.

Okay, next one. Hey, that's Utah. That's Wyoming, Colin. Yeah, this is, I've watched way too many episodes of Yellowstone. All right, well, you've got a point there. All right. How about what's the next one? Hey, edgy.

Oh, it's giving midlife crisis, is that one. That is biker, Colin. Yeah. I don't have a bike, but if I did. I can't imagine. All right, what's the final one? And what was that? That's tasteful.

I kind of like that one. This is magician, Colin. This is struggling magician, Colin. Look it. Look over here, and the coin appears over here. This is the guy at the bar that thinks all girls drink apple martinis. Okay, so I'm going to, so just take a picture of joy. Take a picture of joy.

Okay, hold on. I'm going to put on a, I'm going to put on. Oh, my God, no. Why are you guys doing this to me? I'm not looking. I need the reveal. Okay. Look at this now. I mean, it's, it's, I have this same item of clothing, by the way, in my dressing room downstairs.

So I have, I have, I have, I have this merch. I wish I had this was happening because I would have brought mine up as well. Maybe I'll wear it tomorrow. So I forgot I had these, but this is like, it's. This isn't appropriate for a show, but this would be like if I was out camping or something. Yes, like I wore something similar to this when I was golfing because it was a little chilly and you need your, your arms free. but that's like an a it's like an ath leisure piece. So you just look like you're cold,

but you want to remain professional looking. Because Skip Bayliss works here, we are freezing. Skip likes a cold studio. Him and Shannon have wear like three-piece suits and It's freezing every morning when we walk in here. No, that's what that's a, that's a very L.A. look is the puffer vest with the, with the button down shirt.

So let's go to the graphics again. So let's just do the- We want to review the footage. Okay. So the first one is, I actually think it looks great. It's something you'd wear on like a, a Saturday afternoon if it's chilly in L.A. with your kids.

Right, yes. That's an appropriate look, but I don't know that it's appropriate for on air. That's exactly right. The second one, I think, is I'm too sexy for this best. I like it a lot, but Joy thinks it's just, it's tacky looking to you. It's giving peeping Tom. Okay. All right, we'll move off that. The third

one is, to me, I would wear this in Park City. You would wear this fringe vest outside of your home, Colin. Yes. You don't think I should? You don't think I'd look good. outside my house wearing that maybe in the yard look at all that fringe are you kidding what's the purpose of it well it just makes me feel okay warm it's tied in the front it's like i feel like a cowboy okay four is probably not my brand like i'm trying to be tough and i'm not really yeah i don't

i don't i don't really take the the guys that go fool biker but i i will say this i would wear this I would wear this last one on the air. This is the best I'm afraid of. This is the one that you keep. This is the look that is giving me. You're terrified. Yeah, just like this best. This is it.

So you don't like this at all. This guy walks up to you in public. What is your immediate thought? I immediately thought he asked your sign. Are you a Gemini? That guy is all over Los Angeles. This guy is way into NFTs. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, he is absolutely convinced NFTs of the stock market. Yes. Forget technology. NFTs are Oracle. They're Facebook. This guy is putting way too much of his money in the Metaverse. Yeah. Hanging out with people.

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