The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Paige Spiranac

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Covino & Rich are live for Day 2 on Media Row in New Orleans ahead of the Super Bowl! Social Media Superstar Paige Spiranac stops by to discuss her rise to influencer status. Plus, the guys debate player motivations heading into the Super Bowl!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To our left, it's a pleasure to meet and welcome. Someone we see on social media all the time. Over 11 million followers on all social media platforms from Sports Grid. Give me props. Let's welcome Paige Spiratic to the show. Hello, Paige. How are you? Thanks for having me.

I'm super excited. A pleasure to have you. Now, great to see you in person. We feel like we see you every day on our phone. Yeah. How many people do you feel? as though they recognize you and I think I know her. Where do I know her

from? Do you get that a lot? Yeah, well people going, you look familiar. Oh, yeah. If I'm on the golf course, it makes sense. But like walking around here anywhere, but I have the best job ever because it's like I can be invisible in real life because social media fame isn't real. So it's like I have that life and then I have my real life.

You got to tell us about that. Again, Pace Brownick, you definitely know her. Again, give me props is the new show on Sports Grid. She's a former pro golfer turned social media superstar. Tell us about that decision, how it happened. Was it hard to say, well, I'm going to give up pro golf and focus on this, but still golf. Like, tell us about the journey. Yeah, so I was a competitive gymnast before I switched over to golf,

and I really wanted to be a pro athlete, and I thought that I would just be really well suited to golf. And so I did junior golf and then played D1 golf and then two years professionally. but that first year, it's financially straining, and I didn't have any support. And it just kind of happened to me where someone wrote an article about me. I went viral overnight. Went from having 500 followers to 100,000 followers, and companies were reaching out. And at the time, this is almost 10 years ago now, there was no path to be a social media influencer or content creator, especially in golf or in sports.

And so I was like, oh, I can use this to my advantage to finance my golf career. and that's really how it started. And after really like a year of trying to balance both, which was really hard. And I was also dealing with a lot of criticism of, you know, getting a sponsor invite or just what people said was like special treatment in the golf industry because of my following or my appearance. And it was just too hard to handle. And I was never cut out for pro golf. I had the physical skills to do it. But oh, my God, I am such a headcase.

It was bad. It was really bad. In what way? What got to you the most? The criticism? You know, I think that like coming from a gymnastics background where you need to be perfect and you're striving for perfection and then you go to golf, which is the exact opposite. There's no such thing as perfect and really you look like this throughout your career.

And the highs never really outweighed the lows for me. There's just something about golf and I don't know if you've played it, but it just makes you feel so small about yourself. I don't for that reason. Yeah. I have not because everyone's like, you're going to love it one day. Right. And then the minute you feel like, I'm getting pretty good, then you feel like you suck. It just eats you alive, and especially when you're trying to do it as a living, which most people are like, that's the dream job.

And I'm like, well, you know, especially for the women, I was playing on the mini tours. I played around 25 tournaments. I had a win, and I barely broke even for the year. And so you're grinding and you don't have support. And it's just a really hard lifestyle. So there's so much pressure on you and then me just kind of being a people pleaser and wanting to do a good. job. And also it's a really unique sport too where, you know, my parents always told me, if you work hard, you will be successful. If you do everything that you need to do,

you will see results. And golf is like, nah, no, you won't. You can eat right. You can, you know, do everything, have healthy habits and work around the gym and work hard, you know, on your practice. And then, you know, it could be the first tee. And then it's like you've never held a golf club before. And I just couldn't ever wrap my head around that. And so I decided to lean into doing social media work for just a year or two to be able to, you know, then maybe take a break of that and go back to pro golf and about a year of just doing social media. I was like, I will never ever go back to playing golf competitively again. Yeah, because that just blew up.

Blew up for you. Congrats. And I'm just better suited. So what helped me back in playing professional golf actually helped me in my social media career where I think I was very vulnerable and, you know, competition was hard for me. And that vulnerability helped me build a really great community. And so I'm just much better suited to be doing this. I still get to stay in golf, which I'm so passionate about.

But I just was never meant to play professional golf. Yeah. Hey, listen, we're here hanging with Paige Sparanick, Kavino and Rich. What I love about what you do is you don't shy away from the obvious. You're good at golf. What are you talking about? You're a good looking woman. And like a lot of times there's like a hesitancy where people like,

well, I don't know if I want to lean in. And you're like, listen, I was blessed with good looks and I know how to play sports. And I know sports. Why not marry the two? Yeah. I mean, when I first started doing this, I, again, had no idea. what it would morph into. And I was taking a more traditional route, and it was so funny.

I posted a picture, and I was wearing a turtleneck, and someone called me out for my wardrobe. And I was like, this isn't about my wardrobe. You're just putting me in this box. And I got so sick of that. And I was like, you know what? I'm not lean in. And I'm going to do that the best I possibly can. Why not, right?

So my social media has morphed over the years, and it's really become this, like, parody of how people view me. And if you follow me, you're kind of in all. on the bit and it's like if you know you know. And I have so much fun with it and I'm very self-aware. And I just feel like there's so much negativity online that I want people to come to my page and have fun and smile and not think that I'm like trying to preach something or do this or do that. You were the first.

I feel like because of you, there's so many like I have buddies that like my whole algorithm is like hot girls golfing. Yeah. You started sort of like a genre. No, I mean I paved a path for so many, not even just for the women, but for also So my male counterparts to be able to do this, I was the first one to be able to monetize your social media in a way in the golf industry that no one had ever really done before. And sometimes I don't always get credit for that because, again, of how I've built my brand in it because it is more kind of silly and not as like in your face golf all the time. But I'm really proud of that.

And it's so cool that so many women now have an opportunity to make, you know, a career. Have you met guys that are intimidated that you are better than them at golf? Because there's a lot of guys that would have a hard time like, gosh, it's better than me. Like, have you encountered many of men that are insecure about your skills? You know, it's funny because a lot of people, because I am so public and I say, oh, I feel that playing golf professionally, that they think that I'm a bad golfer. And so when I meet a lot of people, they're not nervous that they're playing with me because they think I'm good. They think that I'm going to be bad.

And I'll make, I'll make contact on the first shot. and they're like, oh, no. Oh, my gosh. And, like, that's the fun part. It's like I still can play at a, you know, a good level, and I'm confident in my skills. But most people just don't realize that I, you know, can break 70. You could hustle so many people.

You can hustle so many people. I've been doing it online. I mean, that's my whole career at this point. By the way, H. Granik on the Kavino and Rich Show Fox Sports Radio. Show me your tips. You're not shying away. Like I said, everything's like you said. If you're in on it.

You're in on it. Yeah. When you talk about Gimmee props, prop bets, looking at Super Bowl 59, are their bets you're already eyeing up with people you're talking about or no? Do you like some of the prop bets? Oh, I love them. They have the National Anthem. The Gatorade Poor is always my favorite of what color it's going to be.

Of course. I mean, always the fun prop bets. But what we decide to do with Gimmee props is people were writing in prop bets that they want to see me attempt. So the first one, the first episode that launched on February 2nd, our YouTube channel, under Lost Pages is dirty balls. So again, leaning in, having fun. And it's...

By the way, when she said that, she looked at you. I want you to know that. She looked at Rich. She said dirty balls and looked at Rich. Just so you know. I want to make that clear. And so I have to clean golf balls, dirty golf balls, in a certain amount of time.

And then the second one was a double-stacked burger, and I have to finish it in under five bites. Okay. All right. Just having fun. Yeah. It's supposed to be fun. Supposed to be fun.

Paige, do you ever think about how you really just have fun for a living? I think about my digital footprint and I like shiver sometimes. There are times we think like we're faking life. We're talking about radio and sports and nonsense. The best job ever. You are like people are betting on cheeseburger bites. 100%. And it's so funny because, you know, I hear people in my industry and they're like, oh, my job is so, you know, difficult.

And I'm like, we have the best job ever. Like if you talk to someone in the real world. world with like an actually challenging job. It humbles you real quick. Oh, yeah. And I'm so blessed to be able to do what I do every single day. And I never take that for granted. And I'm so appreciative of my community that allows me to eat cheeseburgers.

Like, that's the best job ever. When you walk around like a media row like this for a big event like the Super Bowl, this is your demo. So do you feel that everyone's looking where you're going? Like, like I was used to that. But I saw you walk this way. every radio booth is like, is that page? Oh, really?

Yeah, do you get that vibe? No, I think I'm just so desensitized to it. It happened on the golf course. It probably happens all the time. Well, you know, it's funny because a lot of people think, oh, you must be, like, really confident. And I, like, at my core, I'm, like, deeply insecure. And so sometimes when people look at me, I'm like, is there, like, is there makeup

on my teeth or, like, is there something wrong? And so when people are, like, looking, I'm like, oh, my God, like, there's something wrong with me. And I don't think about it in, like, ever a positive. way in my life. They're trying to read your shirt. That's what it says. I just hope both teams have fun.

Have fun. Again, Paige Sprannock here. I mean, it was only this. Really tiny print, right? She put it on. I got to ask you this. You're talking about how great the career is, right? But there has to be a weird side or tell us how you balance out the fact that everybody

wants to know everything about you because everything's so public, right? And they want to see what you're doing at home and they want to see all your videos and everything. How do you balance any process? any privacy when you're so public all the time? When I first started doing this, I was an open book, and I would say everything that just popped into my head, and I realized, like, that's probably not the best thing that you could be doing. And so I still want to keep my authenticity and be genuine, because that's how you connect

with your audience. But there's just certain things that I decided that I'll never talk about, which is, like, friends, family, any relationships, it's just not worth it. And so when you go on to any of my social media platforms, it's me and me. only because I signed up for this but a lot of people in my life especially like my best friends they don't even have social media and so I don't want to subject them to there's so much good but there is also some bad and I've come to terms with that but that's not a life for everyone and so yeah there is a balance but like keeping that part of my life separate and I think it's also

helped with the hate too because it's a persona that I play it's a character and it's not really me or my real life and I think that separation has a side of you though right Like a playful side. It's my most confident, sexiest, most playful side of me. The person I want to be is who I show online. It's who I strive to be that confident. It's like Larry David said he wants to be who he is on curb. Yeah.

But in real life, he just can't be that. The platform allows you and expects you to do that at this point. Yeah, because at the end of the day, it needs to be entertaining, right? And so, like, if I'm just sitting home and sweats and doing nothing and, like, reading, people are not going to find that interesting. How do you handle hate? I mean, it's easy to say, yeah, just ignore it all. But there'll be times we'll do a show or an event. We're like, hey, that was good.

And for every nice person, there's an a-hole that's saying some stuff, do you just totally block it all out or are there times where you're like, yeah, people are pretty mean? Like, social media is not a nice place. Again, I'm, like, so desensitized to it now. But I will say that, like, I've noticed. that the things that people say that bother me the most are insecurities that I have with myself. And so you do have to, it's going to be cheesy, but like you have to take that journey of like self-love and like figuring out why those comments bother you. So for me, like I feel like I failed at pro golf.

And so when people criticize my golf game early on in my career that really ate at me because I was insecure about that. And now, again, it's a persona. It's this kind of character that I play up and being able to separate like what I do from who I am and it's hard because as a content creator you are the brand and so when someone is criticizing you they're criticizing the brand or this version that they think they know of you but I can't sit down and have an hour long conversation with every single person I meet and I feel if I did I would change or sway there maybe not maybe I'm just very unlikable and like everything that people say

but like once you get to know someone then you can make a full you know judgment on who they actually are and you just won't get that opportunity with so many people. Paige Sparanic, I'm sure you get a lot of hate, but you get a lot of love too. You have 11 million followers across platforms. You're a celebrity. You said social media celebrity. However you want to put it. Yeah, that doesn't count.

Do you put that number of perspective, though? That's a lot of people. 11 million people. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Cover a Sports Illustrated, you know, illustrated model, all that stuff. I wanted to ask you, obviously a lot of men are reaching out to you all the time. Let's talk about celebrity guys and athletes.

Do they hit you up constantly? Are you always seeing it? You don't have to give us names, but it has to be a constant thing. Is that fair to assume? Yeah. A lot of baseball players and hockey players because they love golf. And so that's always like a pretty easy transition. And then some random people sometimes that I'm like, that was really cool that like they know who I am.

Right, right. Okay. Because like I just don't, throughout all of this, like, I can't believe I'm doing this, and so it's so weird to me. So you notice that, though, right? It's not like you just see that dude and you're like, yeah, whatever. You notice it and you're like, okay, interesting. I never respond, though.

Ever. No, because it's, I don't meet your heroes. That's what I've found out in this industry that most of the time I'm often disappointed. And so I just want to, if I really respect them or like them, I kind of want to keep it as I envision them in my head. You don't want to know that they're really a creepo. No. But maybe they're not. I mean, you got to respect sometimes people who,

shooting their shot. They're a fan, and they're like, hey. And I'll never, like, I don't like when girls drop names or make it into a big thing, because that's, like, it's disrespectful. Like, it takes a lot of, like. Oh, I know what you mean. Like, someone would screenshot it and throw it out there publicly. Yeah.

I think that's so cringy. I agree. Yeah, I think that's weak. No, because it takes a lot of courage to, like, slide into someone's DMs. And then for that, then to be blasted online, I don't like that. I'm actually, I'm with you on that. Yeah, I think that's a weak look. Yeah.

No doubt. No doubt. By the way, when you, when you're around here, Are you a big football fan? Are you more like what besides golf? What are your sports that you actually enjoy? Yeah. So my aunt played professional tennis.

My dad played football at Pitt when they won the national championship. My mom was a professional ballet dancer. My sister ran track at Stanford. And so we have most of the sports covered. Big sports family. Both my parents are from Pittsburgh. So I bleed black and gold. I know.

And so I've always been a big Pittsburgh fan. But I just love sports. I, it's just, it's the best. Because you have 11 million followers and people know who Page Sparantic is, do you have the ability to be like, hey, I want to go meet Russell Wilson? I want to, you know, do you know coach Tomlin? Like, have you infiltrated that world at all or no? No, I, again, like, I just have such imposter syndrome that, like,

I don't even ask or try to do or facilitate those things. Like, I probably could have taken advantage of, like, opportunities, and I just have never done it. But I love Mike Tomlin. I think he's so cool. I think it made me as time the Steelers is done, but like I've always loved him as a coach. When he finds out he'll be sliding into your DMs next.

No way. No way. Hateful, like you said I'm. Hey, wait, before all this happened for you in the Gulf, what was like your last regular job? Okay, so I, this is going to be crazy. My parents always said that if you gave your all to sports, that you'd never had to work a job. And so I was able to commit to sports, get a full-ride scholarship, and so I never had to work.

And then right out of this. Ever. No, I worked in my sister's frozen yogurt shop for like a week, and then I couldn't figure out the cash register. So I just started, like, giving people free yogurt, and I got fired by my sister. But, no, I've never worked, like, a real job, which I'm lucky that I fell into what I do today. but there are so many college athletes who are not able to get internships or not able to get jobs and they're thrown into the workforce with really no skills other than what they learn through athletics. And it's actually a pretty big problem.

Wow. I do tell my kids, I tell my daughter, I'm like, if you get a scholarship, all this money, dad's saving, you could use it for whatever you want. So scholarships are a big deal. 100%. I love that story because you said you didn't really have to work. But what you've done is you've built an empire here. down playing that, but she did get fired by her sister.

I did. Yeah, we can't go past that. No, I know. I don't even have a college degree because this happened in my senior year, and so I wasn't able to graduate. And so I really had to, like, fully lean into this or else, like, I mean, who would have known right? Yeah, exactly. Let me ask you one more thing. Paige Spirannock here with Kavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio. Let's say you're on a date, hang with friends. Yeah. You're going mini golf, top golf, any of these things. Are you, are you able to check out and be casual or you like looking at people's grips people swings like are you able to step aside from golf funny enough i am terrible at many golf terrible i am so bad at it i don't know why

it's like it's the same thing i can't figure it out at a windmill or clown's mouth and you're off oh i just lose it like my mind goes in wild places and i just can't figure it out and they're like we'll bank it off here and i'm like that's not real golf like i can't do that um no i try to have as much fun as possible. But if someone's asking for, you know, swing tips, I will always help them. And my last question, again, Paige Brannick, you said you like to have fun, aside from golf, what's like your perfect night? What do you like to do? Do you like to binge out on shows? You like to be lazy? You like, like, what's your thing? I mean, I travel. Do you cook at home? Yeah, it's so funny because I, the persona that, you know, has kind of been created online as people think it's like

fun, party girl, like doing all these cool events with like A-listers and athletes and, My go-to-night is home with my dog, eating ice cream, like binge watching a show or reading a book. And, like, that is what I love to do at the house. That's your happy time. What you're relaxing? What's your show right now? I am one episode away from finishing Yellowstone. Oh, yeah, we're not on it.

We're not on it. I've been pushing shrinking on him. Yeah, I know. He's trying to get him to watch that. Apple TV. Okay, I'll check it out because I'm going to need a new show after Yellowstone is done. Tell us about your stuff. Give me props.

Sports Grid. We got this here. this little nice. Yeah, so we always want to bring, give me props with us everywhere. Last night at opening night, we had a couple fun props. One was how long it would take for Travis Kelsey to get asked a question about Taylor Swift. Over under was five minutes.

I took the under and I won. Another one was how long it would take to get to the front for Sequin Barclay over under 45 minutes. We did not succeed on that one. But with the Lost Pages Poker Chip, today's challenge is, you have to put it on your forearm and then try to catch it. And if you do, you get the belt. Well, I don't know.

No, I got to do this over here. I got to stand up for this bad boy. Hold on. Here's the chip. Oh, come on. I got it. First try. First try.

Well, there you go. You get the champion. Nice. Yeah, buddy. I'll take it. Give me props belt. Paige Sparantic. Thank you.

Guys. I mean, follow her. I mean, follow us. She's got enough followers. You got plenty. Can you save some for, you know, for us? Thank you. We can collab.

Where can people hit you up, obviously, at Page Sparannic. Yeah, all my platforms that are my name, Paige Spanick, on Instagram, it's Paige Renee. And then for the Lost Pages, Gimmie Prop show, you can find it on YouTube under Lost Pages. Perfect. A pleasure meeting you. Thank you. Thanks for being on the show. You're welcome by any time.

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What do we not know? There's a reason Rich was uber giddy in that interview. Oh, I'm sorry. And the reason is underscore page. t. Renee. She's got 4 million followers on IG, over 11 million followers on social media.

she's a looker, she leans into it, she was a lot of fun. Well, that's, I mean, listen, I was trying to get at the fact that I love when talented, good-looking women in sports lean into it because it's like, the reality is what do men like sports and women? So to pretend that's not the case is silly. I love that she leans into it. You know who else leans into their looks? Isaac Lowe and Cron.

Let's go for an update. What's up, Ilo? A man that leans into those looks. What's up, buddy? Boy, do you know it. It transcends the radio airwaves. He leans like a cholo. Elbows up side to side.

Didn't think I knew that, did you guys? No, but you impressed me always. What can I say? Guys, we will start with a story out of Philadelphia. This one not involving the Eagles. It's in the NBA where the Philadelphia 76ers announced a short time ago that Joelle M. Bede will be available tonight against the doubt. Alice Mavericks after missing 15 games due to a sprained foot and knee swelling.

Meanwhile, today we got to hear verbally from Luca Donchitz for the first time since the big trade as the Los Angeles Lakers held his introductory news conference. I mean, everybody was surprised, so you can imagine how surprised I was. I was almost asleep, so when I got a call, I had to check it was April 1st. I didn't really believe it at first. and it was a bit shock. It was hard moments for me. It was home.

Meanwhile today, new Dallas Maverick, Anthony Davis, described his reaction to the trade. I was shocked. Everyone else? Like I said, I didn't know. I was actually at home about to watch a movie with my wife and got the phone call. So I had no idea I'd make now. I'm kind of overridden just kind of getting ready to play with Dallas.

No word how the movie came out. Anyway, finally, guys. What movie was it about? Is it the new Cameron Diaz, J.B. Fox movie? That's what I wanted to know. It was Moana, too. Okay. It'll be hard press to beat any given Sunday.

Well, speaking of any given Sunday, finally in the NFL, regarding the perception that the Kansas City Chiefs purposely get favorable calls, NFL Referees Association, executive director Scott Green, issued a statement today saying, and I quote, it is insulting and preposterous to hear conspiracy things. theories that somehow 17 officiating crews consisting of 138 officials are colluding to assist one team.

Unquote. To find out how that statement went over with the public, we checked the comment section and at underscore Mr. C underscore commented, quote, not all refs are in on it. They change the outcome of several games a year with key calls or no calls in. critical moments. We all know it, and to pretend it doesn't happen is ridiculous, unquote. Then finally, at Vista underscore Test 2, added quote, this is like a cop pulling over a pothead for speeding, and the first thing he says is, there's nothing illegal in my car, sir, unquote. Guys, the key to knowing that you're getting a great perspective on social media is if the username has at least

one underscore in it. Back to you guys. No doubt. Isaac, always good to hear from you. And by the way, it isn't, Isaac, you got to admit, it's pretty funny that they even, Roger Goodell and people have to address this. It's wild to me. It's unprecedented that the executive director of the Referees Association has ever issued a statement. The NBA Referees Association has a notable presence on social media, but not in the NFL. But you know what will add fuel to it is if the chiefs benefit again on Sunday. I know. You know what's interesting to me is that, as far as I know,

aren't referees in the NFL, unlike other sports where in the offseason, there are judges and lawyers and maybe like men of honor, no? Isn't that sort of the difference, too? I don't know what ILO thinks about that, but that's BS. Men are men of honor. Get out of here. Look what happened in the NBA. You know, you can't just credit that.

If it happened in the NBA, it's possible anywhere. You know, just because of what they do or whatever doesn't mean they're great guys. I'm not buying into it. I'm just saying that doesn't really hold a lot of weight with me. Thank you, Ilo. Thank you very much, buddy. Appreciate you. We're live from New Orleans, Covino and Rich.

And if you just joined us, well, two things. Tomorrow we fill in for Colin Cowherd, in for Colin, on the herd, and we're still doing our regular show. So join us, call in, get involved, and stick around because lots of people stopping by the show live, lots of interviews. and if you just joined us now, we had Kurt Schilling on before. And that's always interesting for me, too, because, well, I'm a big baseball, we're both big baseball fans. No doubt. But you always hear, you know, rumblings about Kurt Schilling and the type of guy he is and everything. Couldn't have been cooler.

I found him extremely charming. And I think the lesson there is you got to always make your own opinions for yourself, right? Even if that's the problem, I think, a lot of times these days is that if you disagree with people on a couple issues here or there, like you did. discount that person. Yeah, I don't care about it. Political beliefs. The guy was a great ball player. He's fun to talk to.

Yeah, exactly. And we just were joined by Paige Spuranic, the Sports Illustrated model, pro golfer turned influencer, and that was a lot of fun too. So again, catch it on the podcast, and thanks for being here, Super Bowl Week with us. Now, because it's Super Bowl Week, obviously, everybody's talking Eagles, Chiefs. And something we promised, something we promised yesterday, was what's a bigger motivator? Everybody keeps talking about the three-peat.

I've heard nobody, except for me, bring up the fact, well, what about the revenge game for the Eagles? I mean, I get it. It's an obvious, but that's not a motivation that should be talked about. I'm not trying to shut you down by any means. I don't care because you can't, because I find it to be a motivator. That's my opinion. You think you're going to stop me from believing that?

Good, I'm good. There's so many players that sit there and watch themselves lose a game they're watching another team celebrate and they sit there and they take it in and they say the same thing all the time. I want to remember this because I never want to feel it again. You don't think that's a major motivator for Jalen Hertz and his Eagles to not want to lose again? Bro, I'm not saying that makes it an unbeatable motivator, but that is damn well a great motivator. In fact, that would make them hungrier than a team that won twice already. How did he say ass in Spanish again?

Rich, actually. Yeah, it means ass in Spanish? No. No, I think it's Rico Davis. That's how you say. Your Cabesa is up your booty. I'm not trying to shoe you down or anything, but people who lack are motivated more than people that have.

And guess what? These chiefs have two Super Bowl championships in the past two years. So to downplay the hunger and appetite of an Eagles team that lost to this team is ridiculous. That's downplaying the heart of a champion because the challenger was beat. That's horse crap. They're not a bad team, dude. They got Sequan Barclay now.

You don't think that they're leaning into that. You're crazy. Maybe you need to re-listen to it. Who's more motivated in the boxing ring? The guy that's fighting for something or the guy that was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth. The guy that wants something because he lacks it is always more motivated than the guy that already has it. Guess what? The chiefs already have it.

There's one caveat. One rub to your stupid thought. It's not a stupid thought. The boxing ring and the. UFC Octagon are different. That is a one-on-one sport. You're right. Some guy that, you know, was broke and came from a small little village somewhere might have heart, might have, you know, more motivation. There's 50 plus guys on this team. And when you say someone wants it more, or someone's motivated. I didn't say what's the greater motivator. Well, guess what? And I'll tell you

straight up. There's another company here that let me go. If you don't think that that's greater motivation for me to kick their ass, then you're crazy. It doesn't matter what motivates you. It's how it motivates you. I think what Jalen Hertz experienced definitely motivates him, maybe even a little more than Patrick Mulhomes winning three in a row. Every time. There's a big maybe there.

Every game seven. You can't act like you're so certain what's a bigger motivator. Every end of a world series NBA championship, NHL Stanley Cup, Super Bowl. There's always a couple players on the losing team. And Danny, back, great. There's always a couple players that let the confetti fall in their head, or there's always some clown on the top row that dugout. It was my boy Soto last year.

You sure what? They're sitting on the top row. Like, dude, I get it. You're no more motivated than the guy that walked back in the locker room. Don't give me these theatrics that, oh, Jalen Hertz really took it in two years ago. It doesn't guarantee that they're going to win. But if you don't think that hunger's greater, then you've never been without. Okay, Rich, let me ask you this question really quick.

What if you had a mansion already, and you were just striving to ask? on to the mansion. You're not fighting as far as the guy that wants it. Or you're in a one-bedroom, crappy apartment in Recita, California. But that, I get what you're saying on paper. That's a beautiful argument on paper, guys. But in reality, sometimes someone just better. And, like, I don't care.

That is the reality. But we're not saying who's better. We're saying, what's the bigger motivator? The guy that wants that mansion's more motivated than the guy that has it. You don't think Mahomes wants a three-pe? You don't think that rich person is like, I got to stay rich? Hold on. It's not about Mahomes not being motivated.

I think people are more focused on the three-peat and motivation for the three-peat than the motivation of Jalen Hertz wanting to revenge that loss. No one's talking about that. You don't think revenge is a great motivator? Revenge you, every day I wake up with that motivation. Revenge in sports. Revenge. I wake up every day thinking, I can't wait for everybody to kiss my ass.

It's a great motivator, dude. and I don't think anyone's talking about that enough. I just feel like revenge in sports is a great thought, but I think the reality is talent will always win. And to say that someone's not motivated, when they're in an elite level, it doesn't matter if they won zero times or try to go for a three-peed.

If someone's straight better, I get it. You're right about that. And I think the other question here is, well, maybe that extra motivation, right? That extra, I got to win, I can't lose again, I can't. That could take them out of their focus out of their game, where Mahomes is calm, cool,

collected because he's been there, done that. So you're telling me then, well, hold on, I should be excited. Because Juan Soto stood on the top row of the dugout last year when the Yankees lost the World Series, he should be fired up going into this season as a METTA. Absolutely. You think he wants to lose again? World Series is a bust. So you think he wants to lose again?

It's not about me being right. It's about you downplaying this motivating factor. All right. You give me a headache. I give you a headache every day. Now, this is a good debate, and I haven't heard anybody else talking about this. Guys. Guys. You know why?

Everybody's talking about the three-eped. No one's talking about this guy, you know, avenging the major loss that probably haunts him every day. You know what? Hold that thought. We'll wrap up the show. We got more time. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio.com.

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do you want to continue arguing about motivation? Because I feel like we're going to bang our heads together. No, no, no, no. It's the fact that you downplay the flip side. Everybody can see the side that you're talking about. Why is everybody ignoring the other side? There's so many people that are motivated because they want things because they felt what it was like to lose. You know, after a while, Mahomes and Travis and those guys, they're just sitting around expecting to win.

And that's when they get punched in the face by a team that is really driven to not lose again. So it could happen. I don't understand why nobody's talking about that side of motivation. No, I get it. You don't think Jalen Hertz is motivated. You're out of your mind. With that said, he knows that sting of losing. If I were you.

Draf King Sportsbook. Why don't you look at a prop bet for Jalen Hertz MVP? If he's been there, got burned. And again, with Saquan Barkley? That's what I was going to say, Cove. I think that's the difference between this matchup the last time these two teams met each other in the Super Bowl. Saquan was not there running the football for the Eagles.

The Chief's defense, amazing. Can they stop Seekwon? Danny, I was going to say no until I heard that you bumped into Chris Jones at CBS. And you gave him a pep talk. That's a true story. Yep, that's a true story. Danny, she's like, yo, you've got to stop S Sankwan. And now I'm like, there's no way.

Seacquan's going to go for a hundo. Chris Jones got a pep talk from Danny. The other night I was on Canal Street here in New Orleans, and I'm in CVS late night, and the chiefs had just arrived a few hours before that, and I'm standing in the aisle there, and Chris Jones is right next to me. Did he forget his toothpaste?

Yeah, I didn't. So I chatted with him, and, you know, yeah, you saw the tears, you know, in the championship game, So I was hoping mid-conversation he wasn't going to burst into tears. It's funny, Danny did say, Chris Jones said, if I wasn't in the game, I'd definitely come on your shell. That is cool. He was a nice guy. By the way, did he look gigantic in the aisles of CBS?

He was three times the size of any other customer in the CBS. You probably saw his head above the shelves and everything. And, you know, he's an intimidating fellow. Yeah. And he makes that Chief's defense go. Well, hey, thank you for hanging with us today. A lot of fun. And it's only Tuesday, like you said, Kavino, tomorrow a double dip.

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