The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Patriots, Mahomes

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

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I was playing volleyball on the beach, unfortunately. Well, no, you live on the beach, so you play volleyball in the beach. Can you ask Mark Sanchez when? he comes on, who was the last quarterback to take down Peyton and Brady back to back in the playoffs? Because I have the answer. It's Mark Sanchez with the New York Jets. Yeah, the Rex Ryan team. Last time I think they were in the playoff. I saw something the other day that actually was surprising to me. I'm not really a records guy, you know, collect collectibles. But they said longest streak of not being in the playoffs.

And I think the Jets number was 11 years. It's the longest in the league. and it was really surprising to me, maybe because I live next to New York, but it doesn't seem that long ago. The Rex Ryan Sanchez Jets were in big games. Went out to San Diego and won, went to Foxborough and won, beat Peyton Manning. And you're like, the longest playoff drought?

There's so many bad. But the Bears, Tribisky, they got in one time. And the Lions have made it? I don't even remember a Lions playoff team. I remember Stafford early in his career. Yeah, Stafford, remember they lost a time. one to the Cowboys. There was a questionable non-flag on like a

late in the game. I don't remember that. You know. Okay. I remember this because some of them were bad beats from the gambling front. Yes, I've been gambling for a little while. So Charles Barkley makes news during the season. He makes news in the off-season. He went on a radio show

and he talked about, he calls Kevin Durant Mr. Miserable. He just seems like a miserable person, man. I call it Mr. Miserable. He's never going to be happy. I mean, everybody's giving him everything on a silver platter.

He was a man in Oklahoma City. They loved him to me on the entire state. Then he boats on them and goes to the war. He went back-to-back championship. And he's still not happy. He goes to Brooklyn. They give him everything he wants. And he's still miserable.

I think it's a fair criticism. As I said, if you're not happy with the Warriors as a basketball player, everybody's happy there. Like, everybody's been happy. But I also think this is the burden of being gifted. I think when you're truly gifted, I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's in law. It's in tech.

It's in entertainment. It's in basketball. When you're truly gifted, there's a vanity, there's an ego. And Kevin Durant is truly absolutely gifted. And I think sometimes we think once you have talent, the rest is easy. I think you battle yourself all the time. But Steph Curry is also very talented. And with Curry, he was there for the build two.

greatness, not easy. The KD years, not easy. And the rebuild years. They were bad for a couple years. Not easy. Steph's personality is different. Came from super stable family, super stable personality. Dad was an NBA player. He's optimistic. He could rely on the experience in his family of pro athleticism and what it entails. So it's not really fair necessarily to compare, you know, players from different backgrounds and what they endured and what they are. So it is easy to look at Curry and say he always gets through it without drama and Katie always has drama, but they're different human beings, right? So I don't want to get into comparing too much. There is something called destination addiction. It's a real term. And it means happiness is always

somewhere else. And a lot of times people leave a job and you're like, that's a great job. And they're not happy. And does Kevin have some of that? Again, I'm not a psychologist. I don't know. But I will say this is that it's not a good thing to do, but we all do it. We compare ourselves. Brothers compare themselves to other brothers and the family, to their sisters. I've done it in my career with other broadcasters. It's just not a healthy thing to do. People are comparing themselves to Instagram, social media. It's just not very healthy. When did Kevin Durant? When did he reportedly demand to be traded after the Warriors won? He was texting, DMing multiple media people.

What if they don't win? And then they did. And that hurts. That's the post-divorce. She upgrades. You don't. Who won the divorce? It's painful, right?

Like Brady won, Belichick lost. Kauai Leonard won. Pavovich lost. And it's like, Steph won. Katie lost. So that's the thing that jumps out to me. I think it's been a really, really rough off season for KD.

Because when you're as gifted as he is, I'm trying to defend him here a little bit, I don't know if he's miserable, I don't know him. But I think when you're as gifted as him and you go through a divorce and you get some criticism for it and then the other person crushes and you can't go out the next night and drop 40, you're stuck in the off season. And the off season in the NBA is Steph Curry is the man and Durant is out in this first or second round. It'd be different if Durant over the last five months could go out or however long it's been from the finals last two months.

He could go out and drop 40th tonight against Milwaukee. But he can't. And shows like this talk about how great the Warriors are and how crazy it was Kevin Durant left. So I think it's been a really dark, really, really hard offseason for Kevin Durant, who's got a little destination addiction personality in him. And that's okay. Everybody's different. never forget when he said, I won out.

It was after the Warriors won. And I think it's tough. It's hard enough to get a divorce. It's really hard when they crush and you don't. I think it would have been even healthier had he gotten to the finals and gotten beat by Steph. But we say, well, I mean, the Nets didn't have a good bench. The Nets didn't have as many good players. That's different.

But it's like when you keep losing in the first round and like Kyrie won't get vaxed, you know, guys aren't to pay. Pendable. James Harden quits on you. It's not just that it hasn't worked in Brooklyn. It's been a little bit of an embarrassing mess. And the Warriors are over here just crushing. That's hard. Like this is what we taught. You're literally in the news every week. Dude, come on. That was a terrible move. What are you doing? I mean, Durant's not married. Doesn't have a lot of, you know, he doesn't have kids. He doesn't have a family to go to. He's on that phone, baby. He's on that phone. Kevin's with Kevin a lot. And I think it's tough. So I don't know if he's miserable. I don't know well enough to say if he's miserable.

But he made that trade demand after the Warriors won. And I think that's tough. Public figure, they upgrade post-divorce. That's hard. By the way, Jason McIntyre, I don't want to get into specifics, but you have had an occasional DM relationship with KD. A little bit. You can say that.

I talk about a little on my podcast. But after the Warriors won the title, I said Steph Curry broke. Kevin Durant. Like mentally, I think that broke Durant because he got swept by the Celtics and then Steph Curry gets the MVP, leads him. And I tagged Kevin Durant on Instagram, obviously like I do all the time. And he instantly

responds. And your point about, he doesn't have a family and kids and stuff, Katie's with Katie a lot. We know people in sports media who, if you don't have an escape after leaving work, you're just sitting on social media waiting for people to talk about you. Guys get single and older

in our business. And listen, if they're not talking about you, you get it in your head. Do I not matter? And you start to create these weird narratives so people talk about you. It's like a desperation. It becomes this zero-sum game of trying to gain status. You're not going to win that. That's going nowhere. And I feel like Durant is caught up in one of those nasty cycles and he can't get out of it. Yeah. Well, he can get out of it if they're good this year. If Kyrie is available and Ben Simmons is the defender. Those are too big. Well, I know. They are. But he's really talented. I thought this was interesting. So Greg Bedard was on our show yesterday. He's a Boston reporter forever.

And he's really good. I mean, he's one of those guys locally that you get a straight scoop from him. And it is hard when you cover a local team to hammer a local team because you've got to go be at their practice the next day. So he was as brutally honest about this camp and Mack Jones and Matt Patricia as I think a local reporter can be. There is just a lack of attention to detail up front and what they're doing that. I've never seen. I mean, I've never seen in my time covering the NFL. I mean, it looks like an expansion type offense when you're talking about it. We know Matt Jones had a good rookie year last year. And, you know, you would think, all right, he can build off that.

But what they're doing to him, new coordinator, new quarterbacks coach, new playbook, new, you know, you're not protecting him up front. It's straight out of how to ruin your young franchise quarterback playbook that we've seen from countless terrible teams over the years. If you take out Andrew Luck, just Andrew Luck, who went 11 and 5, 11 and 5, 11 and 5 with no help. O-line was awful, defense was awful, GM wasn't good, take him out. I can't think of another single young quarterback in the last 10, 15, maybe 20 years, who excelled in the first couple years in the NFL without help. Lamar Jackson, great organization, John Harbaugh, always well run. Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reeves.

Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, great offensive support. Russell Wilson, Marshawn Lynch and the best defense in the league. Josh Allen, they got him Stefan Diggs, a great offensive coordinator, and an excellent defense. Joe Burrow, offensive coach, tremendous weapons at wide receiver. Justin Herbert, by year two, excellent O-line, Chargers Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, they got real wide receivers. Take out Andrew Luck. who just overcame a mess.

I don't think it could be done. I think Justin Fields is in big trouble, and I think Mack Jones is not Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, we saw it in college, took Stanford athletes, Stanford dudes, and took him like the Orange Bowl. And then he took one of the worst rosters in the league, took him to an AFC championship. Mac Jones was thrown to first round Bama Wide receivers with Nick Sabin.

So he'd never been in a situation. high school, college are now pro, that he didn't have, like, a lot of help. He ain't getting it. Like, so this is not an athlete, and this is not a shot at Mack. He's not Andrew Luck. Nobody is. Luck is a complete historic. I mean, I'm not going to go back to the 70s, 80s, early 90s, but what Andrew

luck did is just unheard of. I said it yesterday. You can bang on the Jets all you want. If you go look at their last two drafts, the Jets are surrounding Zach Wilson, some running back wide receiver O-line talent that is redeemable. They don't have a number one receiver in New England. The O-line is according

to Bidardamass, and they let go with their best corner. How are you slowing down Josh Allen without J.C. Jackson? All right. All worked up. I love when those local reporters come out and hammer. Bring the hammer. Hey, by the way, can you find the Mac Jones game

last year where he beat a team, Colin? Where it was Mac Jones led the Patriots to victory. They beat a lot of bad teams. Two teams with a winning record they beat. That's it. One was Tennessee and Derek Henry was out. So like you look at the way,

like Matt Jones is not leading this team to victory. Oh, there's no question. Yeah, I mean, and by the way, most rookie quarterbacks, that's the way it goes. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.

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a team that's about ready to turn it on. No homers in here. Very, very excited. So you can relate a little to Kenny Pickett, where you went to an organization, defensive coach, had some ballers, like, and the pressure was, hey, Mark, make third down throws. So whereas Burroughs, like, we're a disaster. save us. That's not the case. So go back to your rookie year. If you could say, Kenny,

here's two things to know about a defensive coach. By the way, a pretty active Pittsburgh media is East Coast media. They're critical. What would be a piece of advice you give Kenny Pickett? Okay, but we're just assuming Mitch doesn't start now? Well, let's say Mitch. Okay, so let's say Mitch starts for a couple weeks. No, I heard the Kenny Pickett rant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard all 12 of them. Okay, okay. I know you're high on him. No, he's a hometown kid. You know, people are loving him.

And you can't doubt or question what he's done in the preseason because it's been great. It's been like Dak, a lot like Dak Prescott. When he came on the scene, it was boom, he's completing 75 plus percent of his passes. And granted, it's against your twos and three. So it's like, you know, more than college all-stars, but not quite NFL, like, level, right? like regular season ones on ones or joint practice ones on ones. And they have all the tape of practice and they know where he's at. Most importantly, though, for a young guy is staying within the system, staying within yourself.

And there's going to be times to make the big play. And I feel like I'm talking to him. I'm talking to Trey Lance. I'm talking to any young guy. Stay in there. Let the runs happen. Get us into the right run. number one, obviously know the run checks. That's huge because that'll set you free. That'll get you

to second and four instead of second and seven. Right. And that's a big thing. That'll open up your playbook a little bit. You want to throw the ball more than 20 times? Get the run checks right. You start missing run checks. They're going to be pissed. They ain't going to call passes, right? So that was a big one. I think, you know, letting it come to you. And when it's time to make a play, your natural instincts that got you to this level to be one of 32 or one of 64 in the entire world, one of the best to ever do it. it'll take over in the right moments. And you'll know when it's, hey, fourth down, everything's on the line, I'm going to fit this ball in.

But we're backed up. We're down 10. It's almost, you know, we're, you know, twilight of the second quarter. We're going into halftime. We're down 10 on our own 25. Now ain't the time to try and fit a ball in on the sidelines into double coverage. And I was trying to back shoulder and I thought. And I was hoping.

No, no wishing, hoping and praying on some of those reads. Just tell me what you see. Is he open? If not, move on, take the sack, throw it away. obviously much easier to say it from this cushy chair. Well, you know, I was thinking about this this morning, is that most in the 70s and 80s when I started watching football, you did not have to be athletic to be a quarterback.

I remember Washington, Billy Kilmer got into a Super Bowl. That's way, way, you weren't even probably born yet. That's cool, baby. But you stood from the pocket and you delivered the ball. And over the last 10 years, for a lot of different reasons, rule changes, the better athlete now in high school, he plays quarterback. And in some instances, he's not a natural, beautiful thrower. Jordan Love is athletic.

It's not pretty. Trey Lance isn't pretty. But I do see teams saying, listen, there's so many good quarterback coaches. We'll figure that part out. And I do wonder this, because I watch Trey Lance. And I'm like, I don't know if he's ever going to be a 66% throw. I watched Jordan Love. I went to his college numbers, two of his three years.

This year preseason, 55%. So the question is, I get the move toward, I want my quarterback, like Daniel Jones, by the way. Big and moves. He can move. Oh, no, no. He can move. Burrow can move. Herber can move.

But Daniel Jones isn't accurate if you go to his college years. So I guess my point is this. Josh Allen became accurate. That's almost viewed as an outlier. Go to your career. I always feel like a guy, like a pitcher can throw strikes or not. Sure. They don't become wild to, you know,

Greg Maddox. Like when I look at... I'd say Mahomes is one of them too. Who's a little more erratic in college? He was a lot of picks in college. That was like a red flag, right? But they saw the arm talent. They said, okay, we're going to bet on grooming this guy to be our guy.

Josh Allen, another example. I think the 49ers comparing those two. Now, do I think Trey Lance becomes Josh Allen? I'm not saying that. I'm saying their offenses early on in their career are going to be very similar. I think you nailed it, J-Mac, with the RG-3 idea. It's going to be a lot more like that. They got a stable of backs.

They got the kid out of Georgia Tech stud and I'm blank. Jordan Mason. They got the kid from LSU. Yeah, Price. I think it is. Yeah. Yep. And then Elijah Mitchell, who can fly, but has been banged up.

And Trey Serman, who can ball and catch. So they're going to have the design quarterback runs. They got the offensive line. They got three stud receivers. Yeah. Danny Gray looks like he can play. Juan Jennings can play. Iyuk takes the top off.

And then, of course, you got Debo Samuel, who's going to tote the rock as well from the backfield. So it's like, okay, we got the run game. We got every run you're ever going to see. We got quarterback design runs because that's what they've bought into. Three first round picks for Trey Lance. Like at some point, he's going to have to get that out of his head and just go play ball, go play quarterback.

And don't worry about that. Don't worry about expectations. Don't worry about, hey, we only threw the ball 18 times today. Who cares? go win ball games and get better and learn how to be a pocket passer. And it will happen along the way. You're with one of the best coordinators in the game. So let them call the game.

But right now, your formula for winning is these other guys got to pick up the slack a little bit. And you're going to run the rock for us. You're going to make some key third down throws. But you're going to be on the move a lot. And because of some of the stuff we see in last night's preseason game, call it what you want. I love your saying. It's not everything, but it's something. Yeah.

I mean, trips to running back on the first play on wide zone. own. Okay, fine. Maybe it's nerves. Maybe it's whatever. Okay, but it's there, right? It's on film. Everybody sees it. He misses George Kittle wide open on a stick route, which is your either 1A or 1B read on quick game. Just quick little outs, a clear route. Your backs, some sort of isolation on the backside. You can alert it and then you're back. So it's just one, two, three, boom, like sprinkler read, right? Across the lawn. Bam, bam, bam. Like, we can't be missing those anymore. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're the quarterback coach, he's watching that in film saying, hey, dude, we eliminate these. And then when it's time, and we got second and short, and everybody in the building thinks we're just going to run it and hand it off or whatever, do a design run. Boom, you turn your back to the defense. You make a great fake. You get those linebackers and safeties to bike for just half a second, and there goes IUC. And you drop this absolute diamond from the sky and just right into a, you know, red solo cup.

And there goes IUC for a 75-yard touchdown. That's going to happen, but we can't miss these. Give me the routine ground balls. I don't need the Super Bowl MVP, you know, your new NFT, like play on every play. Just get me first down. Get me moving the ball down the field. You're going to run a couple. Boom.

But that's easier said than done, right? Because he has all this talent. Everything's bottled up in there and he wants to show it off. So he's trying to figure it out. I mean, look at in division, golf was accurate, but they didn't feel you got the extended play. Stafford, who throws a ton of picks, gives you the extent. In the division on the same team, Jimmy G. Yeah.

I mean, the guy took him to the playoffs, Super Bowl, NFC, championship. McVey is basically saying accuracy is overrated. You got to take the top off occasionally. Jimmy G's accurate. You love, but, okay, so if you're going to play, it's just two different styles. It's not like this wins and that doesn't. It's, you can play with either one. It's just who are we?

If you're Jimmy, sure, you're going to have other guys make the splash place for you. They're going to be a little more catch and run. You're going to take the top off the defense, and he's going to nail it when it's dialed in and set up perfectly cool he's not going to do what tray does his ceiling's not quite as high as tray lance and that's okay you can win like that so if you're going in the jimmy g route then it's okay we just need shots on goal shots it's just shots on goal right good shots from the paint in basketball more opportunities more chances to win it and one of them we're going to win i mean they're right in it a couple years ago against the chiefs and the chiefs come storming back

and he misses the ball down the field and everybody says oh jimmy j sucks Well, it doesn't suck. He missed one play, whatever. There are plenty of other opportunities for other guys to make plays as well in that game. So it's just, it's a different mentality. Now, with Trey, you know you're going to get those splash plays, but you might get a missed quick game. You might get a missed completion that gets you to second and two and three or four. And now the playbook's wide open.

And now the defense is on their heels. And they're like, oh, God, here they come again. So it's pick your poison. But at the same time, for Trey, the most important thing is get that stuff out of your head and just improve. Keep improving. You'll throw the ball more. they'll put more onus on you, but he's going to be asked to do less, considerably less than, you know, Herbert, Burrow, Stafford, guys like that. So offensive coordinators, there's a lot of different types.

You had, I think, a Norm Chow, and then you get a Steve Sark, some are young, some are more traditional. So it's not like all offensive coordinators are brilliant or the same. Shanahan was a great coordinator, almost like different tier. So I look at the Mac Jones situation, and it's a different... I feel like we're going to be talking this every week. I mean, it's insane to me. So they give them a defensive coordinator. And my takeaway is years ago, Bill, the Patriot Way, I lived there for 11 years, the Patriot Way was team first, whatever it takes to win.

A few years ago, Belichick said public, Belichick told Urban Meyer, there's, I'm just going to coach guys I like. I'm like, time out, Bill. That's not, that's personal. That's not the Patriot way. The Patriot way is, Randy Moss can be difficult. he wins games. Bill's now saying J.C. Jackson, I was told,

a little difficult. Okay, we're going to let our number one corner go. And so I think Belichick somewhat frustrated losing a lot of these coaches says, I'm just going to take Matt Patricia, he's going nowhere, he's loyal to me, he bombed as a coach, you're my offensive coordinator. I'm like, for a second year quarterback,

maybe Brady in year 11, that kind of feels like a, if it's year two in New York, hey Mark, I mean, we. Call some plays. But year two and New York. New York, we also had considerably more talent, I think, than what the Patriots have right now. And if you have that much surrounding talent, then not that the margins any bigger, but

you also have a little wiggle room, right, with guys making plays, guys who can separate. Do they have that? That's what I'm saying. Like, is that roster on offense keeping a defensive coordinator up at night? Like, damn, man. How are we going to stop these guys? And they have like a whole card full of players. Like, okay, what's our plan for this guy?

Are we going to double him? Because now we got him one-on-one. Who we put him on-on-one, right? Like, are you really stressing those guys? I don't know. I don't think so. I would say no. So now it's like, okay, well, then you got to be put in the right situation.

You got to be, those calls better be, like, excellent. Similar situation with, I feel like the Cowboys are getting into right now. Kellan Moore and Dak Prescott, they're going to have to carry that squad right now. Because guys are dropping like flies. Well, hopefully they get a little, you know, the cavalry's coming with Gallup. Yeah. They got another young receiver that was undrafted. I want to say Houston or something like that.

And he can ball. But they've lost both their tackles and a guard. The kid who can return. I mean, they're going to need some help around, right? Because it's not just going to be the offense is a sure thing. Okay, here comes another seven. Here comes another seven. No, that's, I mean, they're going to need some serious turnover,

some great field position, some sports. some special teams play, and Dak's going to have to be solid. This is going to be a big year for Dak. And every year is a big year for the Dallas quarterback. This one's going to be significantly bigger, only because so much is going to ride on him. There's not going to be much margin for error for him.

Justin Fields, same way. It's like, dude, this guy's going to have to do a lot with not very much, right? That's hard. That's hard for a young guy, right? For somebody like Dak, at least you could say, okay, he could lean on his experience. He knows when a play is just no good. And it's time to cut bait and move on with your life, right?

And just get us to the next drive. And who knows? That team could screw it up, right? They'll screw it up first. Don't be the one to screw it up first. For the young guys like Fields and Mac Jones, you want everything else nice and cushy around them, right? So you have room sometimes to make some of those mistakes and grow from them

and still win while you make some of those mistakes. Because if you're just getting beaten down all the time, then sometimes guys don't recover. So it's a fine line. But when the guys aren't set up for success with the continuity and, you know, year after year, having the same coordinator, a couple of receivers around you, those things are so, so important for quarterbacks. You just want, you know, sameness.

You want one-ness. You want all that stuff. I feel like I'm a marriage counselor. Sameness, one-ness. Yeah. Finally, Sean McVeigh, kind of turned the preseason on its head. I'm not playing starters, and they go, wait, no.

And you can see it now. I was talking to a friend the other day. He goes, it feels like it's been a slow August. And I said, well, the preseason used to give me all sorts of segments and topics. Like starters don't play anymore. Right. And quarterbacks are generally better coming into the NFL because they played seven-on-seven camps. You'd have fewer disasters.

So I said, like August has become a really truly slow month. I always used to look forward to August with all these preseason stories. So now we're at a point now. Like last night, Green Bay, Kansas City, we're just not playing anybody. Go, did you ever, like, if you entered the league today out of USC, would you be like, I don't take some snaps? Like, it's really crazy to me to swing in three years. Well, I think I find myself going, if a starter goes in the game, like holding my breath a little bit.

Like, oh God, please don't get hurt. Please don't get hurt because then the coach is going to have egg on his face and just look like an idiot. it after it's become totally okay and normal to sit these guys, right? Let's just get to get to the regular season, you know, healthy. Yeah. No, you know, friendly fire. Don't hurt ourselves kind of thing. Well, me personally, I do like doing it repetition-wise.

However, I would argue the counterargument to wanting to be in those preseason games is you're getting these joint practices, which have become much more popular. Did you like those? I loved them. I thought they were amazing. because you get the exact situations you want over and over and over. And the best part of those is instead of just like one drive in preseason, you have like seven periods to coach off of, seven, 12 play racks of plays that are legit.

And you took nine of them or 10 of them. And then, you know, the backup comes in and takes a couple, whatever. That was the best for me, I thought, because guys really cut loose in those practices. And, you know, it was like a real game. And more than a preseason game. You know, because you say preseason game in your brain already, you know, manifests what it really is. And it's like, oh, it's not totally real, but I'm a competitor, so I got to win every time. Like, you have to almost talk yourself into it.

Those practices were like, you see how heated they get. I mean, there's full-blown brawls in that looks like WWE. Right. In there. No, it's intense. You know, and there's, you know, a little bit of bad blood. You get to former Super Bowl teams a couple months later. Like, in some of those, I'm like, well, what do you expect?

Right. Mark Sanchez, great stuff. Fox Sports NFL analyst. You drove all the way up here today. That was nice. Just for you guys. I know. For him to steal my RG3 comment.

I didn't know. He was bringing that, Colin. I was bringing some heat. Yes, you were. I think that's kind of the blueprint, the template for that. Yeah, I mean, they had shit. No, it was a great call. I'm giving your art.

Oh, thank you. Mark, while you're here, do you have any good jet stories you want to regale us with? Come on. I'm trying to work the jets into every hour. What's your jets thing? What's your... I was born in New York. Okay.

You know why, though? Well, they got a lot of guys now. That's right. They've hit on like two receivers. It's a little crowded in there. What do you hear it on Zach Wilson, though? Well, I think, honestly, the best thing for his injury now was the injury last year. Because, you know, I don't know if it's structurally or anatomically.

I'm not a doctor, obviously. But because when you tear your PCL and that kind of keeps your knee forward, once it like sags a little bit or lags a little bit, whatever, I have that on mine. Because of the force he put on himself in the open, it didn't tear his ACL. Like, it saved him. The old injury saved him from this new injury in a way that, you know, if that might not have happened, then usually you'd have some other issues there. I'll say this. He's a tough sucker man, and he wants to get back. I think they dodged the bullet a little bit, and some of that was just because of circumstantial because of last year's injury.

But the most important thing there is, like, you've got to come back healthy. I don't care what, if it's week four, just come back healthy because in that market, you know this. Yeah. The yo-yo stuff with the quarterback, it just doesn't work. It's so much more different. It doesn't work anywhere. It rarely works anywhere, I should say. But there it's just even harder.

And it's right when all these forces of good for him are coming together and they're trying to solidify these things. And we said years ago, a couple years ago now, like let it cook, let it marinate. And here it comes. Now we're going to start seeing the fruits of the labor pay off here with Joe Douglas and these great draft picks and Coach Sala being just completely steady in a, you know, volatile market. He's been that voice.

right so it's like we've got to get this right you can't mess around with it oh he's in he's out he's in he's out he can't do that uh say this for the jets and i can't say this about the bears who took a corner and a safety the last two years for the jets the draft picks have been excellent and a lot of good offensive players 100% it's obvious they're trying it's like okay Zach's our guy we're all in here you go yep can't say that about i think joe's had two great draft agreed this year i thought they won the draft. All right, Mark Sanchez, good stuff. Let me take a break. Come back with Jason McIntyre. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB

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Had to cancel? Never gotten. Well, we're going to Vermont this weekend, so that kind of looks like Ireland. I love it. Ireland, Vermont, yes. Some similarities, as they say, right? All right. J-Mac with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's get started with Tom Brady. He missed the Buck's first two preseason games. He was away from the team for mysterious personal reasons. Brady's expected to play in tomorrow's finale against the Colts. Here's what Todd Bowles said, getting Brady some work before the season kicks off.

It's important for game continuity. You know, we have some new guys on the O-line. We have some new guys at receiver. So other than having practiced together, we need to see them in the game with certain situations and just the flow of it, no matter how long it is, we just need to see it. missed 11 days, but he wasn't playing in the first two. He's fine with everything. We know his conditioning is fine. He's getting back with the guys. He's throwing the ball and we're good. Yeah, I think Peter King said it about an hour ago, the Russell Gage relationship, you know,

because Brady, it's not that Godwin, Mike Evans, but he really trusted A, B, and Gronk on third down. So, like, that's the interesting. Mike Evans is going to be his goal. You know, Mike Evans is his guy in the red zone, But you've got to get comfortable because Tom is a creature of habit and comfort. And, you know, it's Russell Gage relationship is brand new. And so is the Julio Jones one. They just picked up Julio Jones. Kyle Rudolph as well, tight end, new. Looks like three new offensive linemen will play.

I'm curious how long Brady's going to stay out there. You can't have them getting killed in a preseason game. They are the most talented team in their division, especially when you consider Brady over a James Winston. But New Orleans has had their number. So they have a couple interesting early games. New Orleans and Dallas. With that offensive line issue, those become much closer than you would have subscribed to a month and a half ago. Tell me about this gambling outlook.

Dallas, Tampa and the opener, I'm looking at the under because the offensive lines are so different. I think the defensive lines could dominate. What's the number? I haven't seen. I don't have it in front of me now, unfortunately. And Godwin, who the Bucks fans can't stop talking about. He's practicing 11 on 11, but he's wearing a non-contact jersey. He has not taken a hit since the ACL injury.

He can't play week one, right? You can't throw him in there. Hasn't taken a hit in 11 months or whatever. Nope. Right, so he'll probably be like week three or four. All right, Kyle, moving on to the next story. Jordan Love, who seems to be one of your favorite preseason targets. You know, listen, he's thrown for three touchdowns and four interceptions in three preseason games,

437 yards. We heard from Matt LaFleur earlier, but Aaron Rogers has chimed in now. I don't know if you heard this, saying, I'm always harping on the little things. The reeds and stuff, just understanding the offense. I think he's definitely become a master of the offense. But it's just the little things that are really going to help him level up. And a lot of it is footwork and little things like arm angles on the run action,

his keeper fakes, hard action fakes, run solutions, RPO, helping to marry up with the running game. That's what I like seeing. Colin, this is year three, I think you say. Let me simplify the whole thing. He's not accurate enough delivering the ball. He's at 55% last year against the Chiefs, 55 in preseason, and struggled two of his three college years. Forget everything else.

Let's say he's got everything else. He's just not accurate enough delivering the football. That's what I see. You can't be at 55%. You got to get to that 61-ish, 61.5%. You don't have to be Kirk Cousins. Sometimes if a guy's too high, like Drew Brees did not throw the ball down the field enough, like over the top. So he's at 68-70.

Kirk Cousins, the knock is. He doesn't let her revents. for years, that's the knock on Derek Carr. Like, you've got to take chances. I mean, Stafford's around 61, 62%. Brady's not at 69%. So you can't get paralyzed by it. But there is a number.

You kind of got to get like 62-ish, it feels like to me. Or else you become really dependent on the big play which Matt Stafford and Brady can deliver. If Jordan's not getting you that 62, with this receiving court, is he getting you stuff over the top? No. So to me, I'll take, like for instance, a great example. Train lands does not need to have a huge number. They're going to have so many over-the-top plays

with IUC, Debo. The Niners led the NFL in yards after catch. So I don't need you to be a 64% completion guy. If you can get to 61 with that team and that run game, that's good enough. But with Green Bay, Aaron's ability to get to 67, 68% matters because I don't think this Green Bay offense has any over-the-top ability now. I believe Jordan Love led the country in interceptions, his final year in college. Yeah. Sometimes you just got to be at, you just have to distribute the ball to the receiver. It's just that simple.

Yeah. All right. Final story, Colin, sticking with the Packers, when Devante Adams left Green Bay for Vegas, many thought it would have been linked to Devante's longtime friendship with Derek Carr or to be closer to his hometown in California. Adams has bigger aspirations, though, with the Raiders. Here's what he said. If we stay like that and we maximize what we do have on our roster, then we can do some special things. So that's what's on my mind at all time, especially coming from a place like the Packers where that's...

Every year. Every year, you're expecting to do something special like that. You know, obviously eight years I wasn't able to get one, but, you know, we had some really successful seasons and we did things. It just wasn't able to get it done in some of those critical moments, but you know it's on my mind. So that's what I'm here for. I ain't come here just to be cute and hang out with Derek and do all of that. I want to get that trophy, you know, at that end of year. It's amazing how many great receivers.

Stefan Diggs went to Maryland. Cooper Cup went to Eastern Washington. Devante Adams with the Fresno. Yeah. That position's interesting. How many great receivers went to much smaller schools where they could be the man. And, you know, Devante, to me, you can make, there's an argument to be made. He's the best receiver in the league.

Now, let's see him with Derek for a while, but he is different. He is, I mean, he is a total grinder, too. They've got some skill guys. Hunter Renfro. I love his nickname, Third and Renfro, Darren Waller, Josh Jacobs in the backfield. Can this Raiders team win a Super Bowl for Devante Adams? No, no. They're not close defensively. I don't think. I agree.

Back seven's pretty average. All right, J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. So that was fun with Mark Sanchez. There's a bunch of different stories here today. I saw this, this cracked me up.

Tyron Matthew, Honeybadger, Tyreeke Hill. and Sammy Watkins. Now they're all criticizing Mahomes. So Honey Badger came out yesterday and there was something on Twitter where some people saw it is a little bit of a shot

that Aaron Rogers is the best quarterback in the league. So Miles Garrett, pro football talk, said, I think I should be the number one top 100 player. And Honey Badger said, oh, that's reserved for Aaron Rogers. And a lot of people said,

oh, I don't know, it's kind of a shot at Mahomes. Let me just say this. Honey Badger Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, all played for the Chiefs, and the Chiefs let all of them go. Right? They wouldn't step up and pay them. Think there's a little bitterness? No, I mean, I'm being serious here.

Don't you think it's funny? Everybody loves Mahomes and three former teammates all kind of take shots. Tua throws the most accurate ball. Oh, there's nothing close to Aaron Rogers. Because this is what happens. This is the story arc. You come into the league. You're a star.

You get to the pinnacle. You win a Super Bowl. you get paid, and then the organization has to make decisions on money. Honey Badger, too expensive and getting old, let him go. Sammy Watkins couldn't stay healthy. Tyreek Hill, we can't pay a quarterback money. I mean, it's kind of interesting that three chiefs in the last couple months, taken, oh, Aaron Rogers is next level.

No, we've seen the last 11 playoff games, Aaron Rogers, Mahomes. It is clear. Mahomes is the most dependable big game player in this league along with Tom Brady, and it is not close. I sense bitterness. Hour three next. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

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