The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - People love to blame the coach

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

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about Team USA. So we go to Copa. And Copa, the fields, aren't FIFA regulated. And so those fields were 15 feet shorter and 12 feet narrower. And so the style of the Copa tournament was a little grittier, and that's not who we are now. So I didn't think we set ourselves up to success for that.

That tournament wasn't built for us. I think we're more European, more skillful, play wider, and which the FIFA will regulate. You know, we're going to get to the World Cup. We got to the World Cup last time with a bunch of kids, and we're going to get there. And we're going to get out of the, you know, we're going to be in the final 16. We're going to get out of the group stage. But I do think the World Cup and it plays better to our style than Copa necessarily does,

although Copa doesn't have nearly the talent. And we got a red card against Panama. We played a man down, played with 10, not ideal. So Burholter takes the fall. We weren't generating enough good quality looks. But I've said this before. This is what I talked about with the Olympics. The Olympics in the World Cup are very political.

The NFL, the NBA, baseball, MLS. You see politics once in a while, but not really. The Olympics are political. FIFA is political. And so Caitlin Clark put her on the team. It's good politics. Put Caitlin Clark on the team. Jalen Brown is not on the United States.

He's not on this current Olympic team. because the Nike story. There are two guys aren't on this team that should be. Kaira Irving and Jalen Brown. One drop by Nike, one not a Nike guy. It's political. Jalen Brown's the finals MVP and the Eastern Conference MVP. So as we come back and circle around on this,

when I said, get Caitlin Clark on the team. She's better than Tarrazi right now. She's better. Younger, better. And if you look at her numbers over the last 10 games, Caitlin was good. Now she's better. She's getting better.

She's getting better. She should be on the Olympic team. and for no other reason then, it's good politics. The men's team's a great example. And Greg Burrhalter being ousted. G. O'Rena disputes there. It's all political. And I understand it.

FIFA. I mean, go look where the Olympics end up. Soshi, Putin. Look where Olympics end up. Look where World Cups end up. There's a lot of money exchanging hands that you later find out about or often don't. And in this situation, it's politics. So they had to come out of this thing roaring and, you know, be in the finals of Copa and it didn't happen.

The red card heard them in a crucial game against the Panamanians. So, you know, it happens. But I've just lived in a world where it's always the coach's fault. It was Bruce Arena, Green Cleansman. Now it's Greg Burrhalter. We never look and, you know, the NBA is a little like this. It's always fire the coach. The NBA is constant.

Five of the last eight NBA coaches of the year. have been fired from the team they won the award on five of the last date because it's always blame the coach outside of a steve cur or a spoltra by the way tibbs in new york if they go to the playoffs next year and fall apart again physically because of you know the minutes he plays his starters tibs will be going he'll be in big trouble i mean he comes with a you know a caution label to begin with but the point is with burrhalter some of this is performance some of it's politics and that's the reality and I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I get it. But it's soccer and basketball. You never, you never look at the player. James Harden, it's not his fault. It's the coach. Ben Simmons is one

of the few examples of we blame the player. Yeah, but it's usually the coach. I thought what Rachel said was illuminating in terms of Jalen Brown deserving it. It's unlikely that it's going to matter in terms of the medal, winning the gold medal. But Jalen Brown, with what he just did on the heels of winning a finals MVP and winning a title. With all the respect to Derek White, who's a really good player, we know you like him, everyone likes Derek White. Jalen Brown's a better player. Yes.

So he's earned the right to be there, especially if he said publicly, I want to. It's an honor for me. Yeah. But this is something I hit on day after day after day after day. Olympic basketball teams, the first five or six great players, it's not political. You get to the middle and the back end of the roster. It's shoe companies. It's who's the coach.

No, Isaiah Thomas. No, Isaiah Thomas in 92, and Christian Leitner's on it. Okay, that's why Caitlin Clark needs to be on it. So dumb. Just get around the team. What are we doing here? So people got, WNBA got very precious. Women's basketball got a very precious, very insular.

We know what we're doing. Not really. You've never made money. Maybe you should listen. Right? Like, just understand the United States men's national team. There's some politics here. And understand with the Olympic basketball.

baseball teams. Jalen Brown, not in the team. There's some politics here. Isaiah Thomas, not on it. Christian Leightner on it. There's politics here. So I thought this was interesting. Shadour Sanders, Dion Sanders' son, is going to be in the NFL. He's playing for Colorado for one more year. I think he's talented. But the more he talks, the less I like him. And I've said this before about Johnny Mansell or Baker Mayfield, your personality at quarterback in college matters. and by the way I talk to GMs it matters to them too Cam Newton came out

Johnny Manzell Baker Mayfield a lot of chutzpah a lot of ego it turns off a lot of people Shadour Sanders we've reached a point here we've reached a line where he should just talk less and not be up front as much

because I think it could hurt his draft stock because I do think he's really talented and I will say this he went out talking about how tough it is to be, you know, at Colorado because, you know, there are a Super Bowl for everybody. Everybody's Super Bowl, so I'm really just, I always stay level ahead and stay grounded because I just, I would never want to be that guy, look back, and not being able to take advantage of the moment that we have right now.

So you're not everybody's Super Bowl. Your last six games last year, you went 0 for 6. you're over under in Vegas is five and a half and the toughest game in your schedule is Utah. You're getting to, I'm feeling there's a threshold here, and I think we're moving into the delusion threshold. And I do think, I'm not going to tell anybody how to parent, but Chador Sanders is, it's like the opposite of the Alabama dynasty, a lot of talking and no production. Alabama, Nick did the talking. Nobody else talked in all sorts of production. And that's why Alabama guys get drafted.

They're coachable. You know, they don't come. They're not flammable when they get to the NFL. They have been coached. They've been coached hard. And it's not about the personality. This is not the NBA or international soccer. It's football.

Nobody's interested in your personality. Once you get into the league and you're a performer, we're all for it. But when you're in college to the pros, be very careful. It can absolutely be part of the quarterback evaluation. I mean, Caleb Williams was getting heat because he painted his fingernails. He never said anything that would get him in trouble. He never really did anything on the field that would get him into trouble. But people push back on the fingernails.

Some people, I thought, stupidly pushed back because he embraced his mom after a tough loss. That was judged. Fingerdale pain. So it's very interesting. Garnering attention does not equal draft status elevated. Like a lot of people draw attention. Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton got a lot of attention. It doesn't mean you're formidable or authentic or appealing.

Like I do think Colorado is getting into a weird spot where it's a lot of talking and now I want to see production. Like I was for Dion and the spotlight because, you know, football recruiting, Colorado's invisible. So I do think Dion, you know, I thought about it. I remember the time he got hired, my initial thought was this is weird fit. And then over the weekend I'm like, well, he'll get him attention. recruiting's attention. Nobody knows where Colorado's on the map of college football, they're up in the mountain somewhere. Oh, this will work. But at some point, you've got to deliver on it. You've got to deliver on the talk or stop talking. And I think I worry about

Shadoor Sanders is he is now front and center of the program. You are not everybody's Super Bowl. You may finish 8th in the Big 12, which is not a viable conference anymore. Now the Texas and Oklahoma have left is not very viable. So we'll see. It's just, it's like the financial bros on Twitter. If you really know finances, you're probably not spending time lecturing people on Twitter. You're just a Twitter bro. A financial Twitter bro.

Like, Colorado needs to, to me, pull back a little on the exposure. Because according to the recruiting sites, the NIL, they've been actually pretty successful on it. Their line play, they've elevated line play. And I do hope Colorado wins. I think it's a great story. I like stories. And I do think Shadur Sanders is really talented. I think he's really talented.

But I've spent my 30 years doing this. And most general managers do not want their quarterbacks to be big personalities and on message boards and dropping bombs. And Colorado is at a really weird point going into this college football season. The attention in year one was great, but they were bad down the stretch. And that means, hey, you can say what you want. But I think the story of college football, outside of the top four or five teams, the Colorado story is getting really, really interesting. Is that they're the most talked about team that doesn't win any games,

and I don't know if that's a great spot. And shoulder consider it whatever he wants. I mean, if you get asked questions, you can say what you want. But it's, I've watched my entire career. Bill Parcells used to have a rule. Do not draft celebrity quarterbacks. Now, that's impossible now. They're all celebrities.

They have NIL money. So you can't say that anymore. Shadur is going to be a star, and he's really talented, like really talented. But it is, I feel with Colorado football, like they're making the news for the wrong stuff now. They've got to start making the news for the football stuff and the winning the games thing. I think last year, I wonder if they almost hurt themselves expectation-wise. They open, you know, they beat TCUs coming off a national championship appearance. They start off really hot.

Shador looks like a Heisman candidate. And the expectation is now all of a sudden. And this is a top 15 team, and then they hit rock bottom. Listen, it changes when you're an underdog. Shadour Sanders is a cool story in an underdog. Well, he goes into this next season. As one of the premier players in the country. Absolutely.

He may be the most talented quarterback. So it's very different. You go from a cubicle to the corner office at work. Different things are expected. Shadur goes from, I mean, last year we had like six legitimate NFL quarterbacks. he's page three of the sports section story. Oh no, he's the lead story in college football in terms of quarterback talent. I think he's the most talented quarterback.

I think the kid at Penn State is really good. I don't think he's as good as Shadur. But it's going to be interesting because Dion wants the promotion, wants the headlines. He's good at creating him. So is Shadur. But dude, you are now arguably, potentially the number one pick. It's going to be fascinating to watch the personality thing here work. you want to make headlines for the right reasons.

Colorado is nobody's Super Bowl. But I think they can win eight games. They had a terrible offensive line last year. They got the number one prospect offensive linemen coming in. They also have Travis Hunter, who's a potential top five pick as well. But their defense was high school. Yeah, but they've improved it to your point. A lot of guys left in the portal, but they also brought in a lot of guys.

I think they're going to be better this year. I hope so. So what would be successful? Seven wins, eight wins? Oh, I think if they won eight-wink games, I think you'd feel great about it. Okay. But the more interesting part to me isn't just Colorado. It's Chador may be the best quarterback in college football.

Now, outside of the Ohio State, Oregon, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, you know, the big boy talk. And the 12-team playoff. Shadoor's going to be a big story. And it's going to be fascinating to watch him be in – because he's going to have microphones in his face all year. He can be the number one pick potentially. Yeah, I've had teams tell me, though, how he handles it this year. The media – or two is really what's going to determine.

There's no question. This is not a criticism. This is a reality. He is going to be the Caleb Williams. I mean, look at the Caleb Williams nonsense criticism for nail polish. It's a nonsense. It became a real story. It did.

And also, he didn't want to speak to the media after the Utah game. There was criticism about that. I mean, if we're not talking. Right. I think Sanders, to your point, Colin, I really, he's a special talent. Oh, I think he's terrific. He's got all of it. It's just now how do you handle all the pressure of being the hunted?

From page three to page one. Caleb was a star at a high school. Shadour's gone from page three. He is now the lead story page one. It's going to be fascinating. He's got a microphone in his face all season. I can't wait to watch it. Jalen Johnson's around the corner.

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Hold on here. Second picket in drive, Dr. Dr.Denna. Okay, my bad. Let's talk about Chicago. go, let's talk about your OTA. Let's talk about, you're from Fresno, by the way. You played in Utah.

There you go. Not Clovis High. What's the high school again? Central High School in Fresno. That's it. Okay, so let's go to the OTA. So Caleb's there. Roma Dunzee is there.

A couple pack 12 guys. Let's start with Caleb Williams. Give me a moment. You're challenging him. If I'd never seen him play, what do you see with Caleb? Special, special. I think for me just really like hearing it and of course kind of getting out there and kind of waiting to see what he really looks like on how he looks spinning the ball. Of course, for me, it was as advertised. I think it's definitely something that is special, something that I haven't seen.

And I know for me there was a time we were in the coverage. We tried to give him a different look. I went back to the half. He threw it. I'm like, okay, this is easy interception. And I'm running. I'm running. That ball floated right over my head. I said, ooh, that's a good touch on that. So I think just even that throw, just in itself, just being able to throw the ball to the sideline, right over with good touch. I feel like that's just something that isn't necessarily taught. I'm sure it's something that he's worked at through his years, but I feel like it's definitely something that is special that you don't see too often for guys coming in right away, having that confidence to throw passes like that. And I think for me, it just brings more excitement to see his maturity through this season because I feel like that's all it's going to be about is him learning and growing through the mistakes. And I think for me, being one of the leaders on the defense and on the team, just wants.

wanting to do a weekend on the defense side of the ball to give him as many opportunities as he needs to be able to succeed on offense. I thought that's what's going to come down to. We're going to do what we need to do on defense to give them the best chance to put a lot of points up. You know, Jalen, what's interesting about him, I always felt that he was confident, bordering on cocky, but not cocky. Like, I liked his personality. I interviewed him on the air and people are, like, he's very, and I'm like, no, no, I want my quarterback to be confident. They don't all have to be the same. Big, tall, short, fat, whatever.

But I thought his personality felt professional. What do you make of his personality so far? I mean, he blends in well. I think that's the, that was one of the misconceptions for me. And I know even getting caught up in people trying to label him as Hollywood and being all these things. It's like, no, he just is who he is. He's a confident guy in itself on the field, off the field. I think it's one of those things where he's very secure in who he is.

He's very confident and knows the work that he puts in to be able to have that confidence. And at the end of the day, I mean, he's a husband winner. He's the guy that got drafted number one. So I don't feel like he shouldn't have confidence at the end of the day. I think it's one of those things that he embraces and he walks in who he is as a player, who he is as a man. I think that's something that's seeing him in person, and he blended in right away with the locker room with the guys.

And that's only going to continue to grow. But I think he's came in and handled everything perfectly. Just come in and working, coming in and jelling with the guys, the offense. You can see everything coming together how it's supposed to be. Roma Dunzee I had an NFL executive tell me he was drafting late first round he goes people have no idea how good he's going to be for Chicago you're out there guarding him he's people say he's not a burner I watched him play live he runs fine what do you make of him I think one thing that caught my eye with him is his contested catch even watching him out

Washington. It was one of those things where he made a lot of good contested catches, some spectacular catches in there. I think, like you said, he's not labeled as a burner, but I know when you get out there and you're going against him, it's like, okay, I kind of got to run a little bit down the field. And I think that's one thing that will surprise a lot of D.Bs in the league, just his down the field speed, because, I mean, he's not, of course, not the quickest, but I feel like when he starts picking him up, but putting him down, he can really start covering some ground. So I know for, For me, he's kind of the same in Caleb, wanting to come in and learn, even asking me, questioning me talking to him in the training room, just kind of trying to give him some

game as far as how the league goes, the business of things, and just how to take care of his body. So, I mean, he's definitely coming in, like Caleb being in the sponge, wanting to work hard. So, I mean, I'm looking forward to both of those guys in their development, especially of Roan, being able to go against him, and especially for camp, I want to be able to give him some tips. Because, I mean, I feel like for him going against the best DB in the league, I thought he's going to be able to learn some things for me. and then I'm going to be able to push him and help him grow to where all Sundays, it's a lot easier.

You know, you played at Utah. Utah is a program that they make their players, their DBs tackle and make their tight ends block. You're a physical player. No doubt. And that's what Utah, that's what Utah asks. It's interesting because I've watched Utah and Kyle Whittingham for a long time, and Kyle's out there in the wait room with you guys every day. You came into this league in this big city, big brain.

and immediately felt like not only a good corner, but a physical player, a leader. Is it hard for a rookie? You didn't seem to have a problem. You're a good talker. They told me before I saw it. Like a big personality. Yes, sir.

He loves to mix it up. But I felt when you came into the league, immediately you talked to the press in Chicago. You didn't have any problem with that. A lot of rookies aren't comfortable with that. Is it your personality? Where does that come from? It's hard.

I would say more so my personal. personality, but also I think to working and training at it, I will say since I was in high school. I think it was something where I would kind of talk to my brother, talk to my dad, do like some interview training with them. Oh, you did? Yeah, no, because I mean, I think for me that separates you from a lot of athletes. I think being able to talk, being able to articulate, not using a whole lot of ums and not just giving one word answers and things like that.

So I definitely started that process early and then going through college. I was a communication major. So I had a public speaking class. I had to get in front of people and present. So for me, it kind of came easy. And then, of course, getting into Chicago and the big city, they always want to put the microphone in front of your face, especially when you're coming in.

Oh, Chicago's a big aggressive media. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So I think for me, it just was learning how to handle it. And I think just embracing it because the media, to me, depending on how you handle it, can either help you or hurt you. And I think for me, I kind of use it as one of my tools to be able to get who I am out there, get my personality out there and honestly just be able to speak the truth and speak my truth. I think at the end of the day,

I think that's kind of what draws the media to me being able to keep it real. Sure. And also, like, my weekly shows that I do, I mean, I get raw uncut. I mean, that's right. I feel about how I feel about things. Very early on, it was obvious you were going to be a centerpiece of this defense. What's interesting is the Bears, Iberfluse is a defensive guy. You guys created some turnovers.

I thought your defense at the end of the year, when they got Montez Sweat. I was like, oh, it's a real defense. Right. In fact, I was surprised you didn't. go get a defensive end with the second pick. You went and got Roma Dunzee, who I love, but I thought Chicago's history, they love their defensive guys. They're going to go get a rush end, and there was a couple available.

What was the difference in the last seven or eight games defensively? Was it just Montez? What was it? What was it? Because it was different. I think it started with us getting healthy. I think, too, in the beginning of the year, we weren't fully healthy. I know the secondary wasn't healthy. I know Kyler had broke his hand, I think, in the first game.

Eddie was battling some foot injuries. I was battling a hamstring injury after the third game, I think, against Kansas City. So I think kind of just getting everybody healthy. I mean, we definitely weren't healthy on that first half of the season. And then getting everybody back together and then even adding Montez, that just made it a whole lot easier, of course, getting that pressure and getting that presence. Because now that's a big threat you got to account for. So I think for us really gelling together, and even when he did come,

accepting them, bringing him into that culture that we had as a defense. and then he really just bawled in and then continued to ball. And then everybody else game continues to level up. So I think we kind of just fed off each other throughout that back half of the season to just continue to push each other, continue to be hungry. And I know we had a very, very slim chance to get to the playoffs. So we were doing everything that we could really to get there. And then, of course, towards the end, we ended up losing one more game and knock this out.

So I think for the most part, we were really just hungry to prove who we were supposed to be all along. From Fresno, I love that you and your brother, and your dad are doing media training. Yeah, we're doing everything. That is the best. That is the best. That is the best. Working on my signature with all of it.

All of it. Yeah. So in your division alone, you got Justin Jefferson, now Jordan Addison, Amaran St. Brown. Now you got all those Green Bay receivers, like all those dudes can play. So like, let's say you're going in coverage and, oh, here comes Justin Jefferson in motion. Probably the best receiver in the league. Yeah.

Is there a way to cover the best receivers? Like, is there something you, I don't want you to give me your, well, I do want you to give me your. I can't get you too much. But does every receiver, even Justin Jefferson, have a little weakness? It's hard to say a weakness. I think at the end of day, I feel like different D.Bs and corners match up against different receivers. You're physical. Yeah.

I feel like for me, I kind of, I like being able to be versatile. I feel like somebody like him, I feel like you definitely have to be able to move your feet and win with your feet. And I thought that's one of my, one of the things I do best is move my feet and win with my feet. I feel like that's definitely something that I feel like gives a lot of receivers issues, no matter who it is, but I feel like specifically for him, you definitely got to be able to win with your feed, be physical, and also win at the catch point because he's going to make some great catches. So I think for me, that's one thing I take pride in doing with any and every receiver,

but I know specifically for him, that's something that's going to be very, very important. You've got to have good eye, discipline, good feed, and be able to win at the catch point because he's going to make some good catches. And even just keep your confidence because you're going to make some catches. How much film do you have to watch on the great ones? There's really no answer to it. So you just got to watch it until you. You're watching at home?

Yeah, I mean, everywhere. I mean, a lot of times in defensive installs or whatever, it's like, I know what cover two is, cover one is coach. I need to know what Justin Jefferson is doing. So I think for me, I'm kind of watching it throughout the building, watching after practice, before practice, watching it at home before I go to sleep. I mean, it's something that you definitely got to study and master to where you get in the game. It's like you already seen like you already play the game. You're just doing. You're not thinking.

Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Finally, Chicago's a great American city. So I go to Chicago, my wife's from around the area. those home games in the fall, Packers coming into town. I mean, don't get me wrong, Utah's great. Was it a game last year, Oregon, Utah? That wasn't a good game for Utah.

But take me to all these rookies. Planet Soldier Field, historic. Maybe the Packers or the Niners or a team comes into town. Is it just an am, you ever pinch yourself and think, this is my dream? Yeah, I think I felt like that my, clearly my second year, because I didn't have fans, my rookie year. So I think really just that first game against the Packers, I want to say,

was early in my second year when we played in that, especially for me, I was able to match up against Devante. So just having that whole experience of matching up against Devante Adams, Aaron Rogers, coming out there, seeing the pride that the Chicago Bears fans have, especially when it comes to the Packers. I think it's something that is second to none when it comes to rivalries. When it comes to energy and pride, I think it's definitely something that Chicago brings a different energy to.

And I think even with hopefully getting a new stadium, it's only going to go up. I mean, the city wants to win, especially against the Packers. So I think it's always an environment. That's what Chicago is known for, the energy. The fans. Oh, great sports fans. Yeah, no doubt. Intense, though.

They'll call you out. Yeah, yeah, no. You drop that pick in the end zone. You'll hear it. Yeah, you got to perform in Chicago. Hey, man, great to meet you, Jalen Johnson. I asked my guest booker Dave Coelho, I said, how is the young man? He said, you're going to love him, big personality, ready to go.

The fact that you are practicing interviews and your signature, that's all I need to know. No doubt. Pro bowler off the field, become one on the field. Great seeing you. Yes, sir. Appreciate you. All right. Let's do Jordan with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. How good we seen? That was great. That was awesome. Great stuff from Jaylen, and congrats on the big deal. The jet will hope to turn things around, Kong, with the healthy Aaron Rogers this season, despite all the noise coming out of camp.

O.C. Nathaniel Hack is entering his second season in New York believes a full year of experience. in the offense will let them be more diverse this season. Anytime you're in a second year offense, it's a completely different feel. From, you know, when you first start, you're installing plays, you're installing alignments, and you're talking about guys just trying to understand what they're doing. Now you can really detail it up. You can talk about the intricacies of the route. You can experiment with new plays, new motions, all kinds of different fun things.

So it's been really good. I think the guys have really enjoyed it. and we'll see it's all about the O-line baby that's all I care about Tyron Smith Olufoshano they have

Elijah Vera Tucker if he can stay healthy they've they've upgraded but it's a mix of rookies injury-plagued guys and old guys at the end of a career can it come together

maybe it can I don't know but to me that's the whole league that's the whole story for the Jets is that O-line if they if that becomes it doesn't have to be a top five line Top 15.

Yeah, if it ends up, if you told me at the end of the year, the Jets line ended up being the 12th or 13th best in the league, they're a playoff team. If it's 17th below, which is possible with injuries, they're not a playoff team. But to me, and I've said this before, Colin, Aaron Rogers, at his best, is a force multiplier because he makes everyone better. Yes. So if they have the weaponry and an adequate offensive line, the ascension of Breeze Hall and Garrett Wilson, two young superstars. Yeah. a really impressive Mike Williams

coming in who's a big play guy he can stay healthy why can't the Jets win 10 or 11 games I mean if they don't hack it whatever it's they can but you have to remember is that you know

almost 60 quarterbacks play a year it's hard to keep quarterbacks healthy it's even harder to keep old quarterbacks healthy with below average offensive lines I know the Jets have players I like their roster defensively I think they've drafted well

yes It'll all come. Stafford and Brady went to teams as old quarterbacks with good offensive line play and won Super Bowls. By the way, Kirk Cousins to Atlanta, excellent offensive line. He'll flourish. Russell Wilson first year in Denver, atrocious O line. Left tackle got hurt, bad O line. Struggled.

Aaron last year, four plays in, bad offensive line. Out. The older a quarterback gets, the more crucial offensive lines become. Young quarterbacks. I mean, young quarter, Caleb Williams is going to run around, going to make people miss. Josh Allen's first couple old lines in Buffalo weren't very good.

You know, guys like that, Justin Herbert's had some, you know, offensive line issues, guys banged up, Slater, left tackle out. That's fine. Old quarterbacks, it's over. Injuries, lack of, older a quarterback gets, the less he wants to get hit. That's 100%. I also say this.

If they are playing from ahead, and they're allowing that defense with Quinn Williams, Jermaine Johnson, Soss, all those guys, DJ Reed, to close it out, Michael Carter. Then they're going to be winning a lot of games, regardless of what Nathaniel Hackett is. Anthony Richardson showed a lot of flash in his first NFL season,

but it was cut short at four starts due to a shoulder injury. With Richardson expected to be a full-go-at training camp, Colts Superstar Guard, Quentin Nelson, was hyping up the second-year quarterback, calling him, quote, an absolute freak and a quote special dude. So if Richardson stays healthy, Colin,

we know they have a really good coach in Stuyken who did wonders for Jalen Hertz. How good can Indy be? Oh, I think he's such a unique player and there's very little film on him. He didn't play much in college. He didn't play a ton last year. So they're one of the surprise teams.

First three or four weeks of the year, you're doing a lot of guessing with the Colts. You don't really know what they are. I mean, Shane Stuyken took a kid with 13 games, probably slow-rolled the offense a little bit based on his lack of college experience. Well, now I've got this kid in camp, and you haven't seen him play a lot.

So if you're the Texans, Packers, Bears, Steelers, Jags, Titans in those first six weeks, you're not exactly sure what Quentin Richardson is. So, I mean, Shane's Tykin's great, but the kid barely played in college. So I don't know what the Colts are. Like, the Colts are a team I want to watch. I have no idea what they are offensively in the first month.

because I really feel like it was a half a rookie season for a raw player. But what I saw was way better than I thought. I actually thought he was better in the pocket. I knew he'd move around. I was like, he was composed from the pocket. He's got a cannon for an arm. Huge arm. He's six, four and a half.

He put on 15 pounds. He's going to be 250, 255 pounds. So if you think about the receivers, they obviously paid Michael Pittman. They're running back. I mean, Indy can be in many ways to me what Houston was last year, that a surging team in the AFC South. Yeah. To Summer League, where Brony James played 29 minutes in the Lakers lost to the heat as they blew an eight-point lead in the fourth. His second game so far, Brony went one of three, three points, three assists, five rebounds, three blocks, two steals.

Colin, do you like Brony's summer league debut? Well, he's not an offensive player right now. That's not what he is. What Brony is, he is going to give you athleticism on the defense. end and length and quickness. He's not an offensive player. He offensively is a G-League player, a rotational player at best in the league. I think they got him.

Hopefully he develops a jumper, and he can play defense, and the Lakers need youth on the wings a little bit, but he's a tweener, he's a small tweener. He's not an offensive player, an NBA offensive player. I mean, he's not a point. You're not really big enough to be a shooting guard. I think he's an undersized combo guard. Yeah. who in time with the work ethic that JJ Reddick's talked about

and the developmental system that the Lakers want can become a viable offensive player who's never going to be asked to be a lead score. I think his absolute pinnacle, Ronnie, is if he's a really good first guard off the bench, that's a great career. And that's what I hope he becomes. Yeah, my guess he's more of a defensive player.

Yeah, well, there's nothing wrong with that. And finally, Colin, to Team USA Basketball, we discussed Jaylon Brown's snub yesterday after they replaced Kauai with Derek White, Team USA's executive director, Grant Hill, discussed the decision, and here's what he had to say. You got 12 spots, and you have to build a team. And one of the hardest things is leaving people off the roster that I'm a fan of, that I look forward to watching throughout the season, throughout the playoffs.

But the responsibility that I have is to put together a team. and a team that compliments each other. And so, you know, whatever theories that might be out there, you know, they're just that. Yeah, I mean, it would not be the first time in the history of basketball, high-level basketball that a shoe company had influence. Jalen Brown, Kyrie Irving, Nike pushback. It would not be the first time it's ever happened. Well, a 92 MJ covers up the Reebok logo.

with the American flag because he doesn't want to show Reebok as a Nike guy. So now we're saying that Nike in many ways is getting backfire because of what happened here with Team USAB. I mean, Grant Hill,

like, this is a tough job. And to say to Jalen Brown, who's a bona fide top 10 NBA player, you know, we're going to pass on you for your teammate, that's a really tough sell. Yeah, it's not, it's more of an apology than a sell.

Yeah. I don't know how you sell it. I don't know how you sell it. Jordan, with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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in transition was Barclay. Charles is one of the great players. But most of the players on that team, Michael was a mid-range jump shooter. He didn't even shoot threes particularly well. Malone, it's the pick and roll. Short 12, 15 footer or score at the basket. Barclay was one of the few guys that could handle the ball, score in transition, put his big butt down three feet from the basket,

and score down low or scoring a 21-footer. Patrick Ewing couldn't shoot. Magic Johnson, by the way, you know, he was unique, but he wasn't a great outside shooter. Chris Mullen was a great outside shooter. Stockton, a great driver could score at the rim occasionally, but not a great shooter. mid-range guy.

You start looking at Team USA. You got guy, I mean, Anthony Davis is not going to hit a three. But by and large, overwhelmingly, this roster is guys that can score at all three levels. And I'll give you an example. Eddie Van Halen, great on the guitar. They're not going to sing, right? You're not giving you vocals. Not giving you vocals.

What he did he was great at. Prince. could do everything. Prince, if he was a basketball player, and he actually wasn't a good player. Prince could play basketball. He's what the modern NBA player is.

Prince, every instrument. You could do vocals. Prince could do everything. He could produce it. He could be vocals. That's the current NBA players. Yokic is a point center. So when I look at the dream team,

I see a lot of positions and individual greatness on a certain skill. A mid-range jumper, Stockton was a ball handler, the great pick and roll guard. That's what he did. That's what he did. And, you know, again, even Michael Jordan, the great mid-range game, and he could dunk at the rim. But Michael wasn't a great deep perimeter player. Kobe Bryant always had better range than Michael.

This whole roster, you know, AD is one of the few. This whole roster can shoot a three, can score and transition. position, couldn't put the ball in the deck. I just think there's there's just, I think the depth and the quality of basketball because we have a global sport now, it's just, it's just so flexible. The dexterity, they beat Canada last night, didn't play particularly well, they're just trying to figure each other out. Everybody's going to have to figure out.

But I mean, you got AD off the bench, Tatum off the bench. Edwards off the bench. And Edwards off the bench. The quality of depth because the game is, that's like baseball. The quality of players under 27 years old in Major League Baseball, it's never been close to this. The quality of baseball players in Major League Baseball now is through the roof because they're coming from everywhere. Now, here was Rachel Nichols earlier on why this USA team is so special. The fact that they played so well defensively, that they were great defensively from the start,

and they played so well defensively throughout and with so much energy and effort, that's really what you wanted to see, and they completely delivered on that. Anthony Davis was asked after the game, if you guys just defend this way through the whole tournament, you know, how do you guys will do it? It's like, we're unbeatable. And I think that's true. I think if they play with this defensive effort and energy, and then, of course, they're going to have crazy scoring to pour into the basket. I really do think that they have the best chance to win of a while, and they've had very good chances to win in the past. If we just put the rosters up again, graphics, put the rosters,

up of the current team USA. And if you were just starting based on who are the best players, I would, see, I'm a huge Anthony, I'm a huge AD fan defensively. I'd start him over Embed. I know everybody loves Embed. I think he can screw up

the offense a little bit sometimes. I would start LeBron Durant, Steph, Tatum, AD, and I'd have Ant first off the bench. Sounds crazy. Ants first off the bench.

How many of these guys, Colin, looking back at 92, how many of these guys make this roster? Well, Michael's obviously great. Barkley, Michael, obviously. No bird, not at that point. No Leightner, no Mullen, no Stockton. Todd Stockton. No, he's not guarding guys like these guys are.

I'm sorry. Stockton over Curry? absolutely not. Oh, that's not, yeah, you're right. Stockton or a holiday? No, I mean, listen, Michael and Barkley, I don't want a bad mouth. No, David Robinson was a heck of a player,

but like, and I, nothing against Scotty Pippen. He's not Tatum. No. Offensively, he's not nearly as unique. And Drexler, who was great, I mean, what's his role on this team? I don't, there's no, I don't see it. I'm, I love the dream team, but this team.

Well, I think Drexler was more refined offensively than Aunt Edwards. That would be my, Drexler was good. At that point in his career, Drexler was a more defined offensive player. Ant's got a higher ceiling. I think Ant's going to be maybe the face of the league by the All-Star break. So you got maybe five, six guys on this team from 92 that are making this roster. I just, it's the dexterity of current players is crazy. Everybody can do everything. I mean, great is great. Jordan and Barclay, in a hundred years from now, Jordan and Barclay can make any basketball team. That's fair. Go watch. Magic. Go watch Barclay in his early Philadelphia days

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