The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Players need to chase better systems

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

Colin continues his discussion about players chasing money over better teams Some times a player just needs to leave one system for another The unreasonable expectations that are put on rookie players    Guest: Mark SanchezSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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who can really run. I think with Sam Darnold and the Jets, wouldn't he like one of his go-to guys? He had a great season with the Jets. Yeah, he's a straight runner down the field. Does that mean they're getting close to a Brandon Iyuk deal? They're losing Brandon Iyuk down the field, so they're going to bring in Robbie Anderson. He could get cut in four weeks, but they're going to see,

we don't need somebody that's wildly productive, but can we bring a guy that can just run straight down the field? Because that tells me that Brandon Iyuk deal is probably getting close to being finalized IUk going to save the Steelers. And that's fine. But what I'm telling you is you go from Kyle Shanahan's ability to scheme you open. on a loaded offensive roster where the Niners squeeze every ounce out of their talent to a defensive culture that can't get their offensive line right

and quarterbacks that right now this morning aren't as good as Brock Purdy. And I'm not the biggest Brock Purdy fan, but Brock Pretty right now runs that offense better than anybody's running the Pittsburgh offense. I get a better offensive line. I get more continuity. So, I mean, again, San Francisco does a much better job to scheme open receivers. That's why when you watch George Kittal, two or three times a game, it's not like he's a burner. He'll be wide open.

It's why Cooper Cup to the Rams is always wide open. That's what really good offensive coaches do. You don't see that with the Steelers. So I think he'll make the Steelers because they're not paying anything for their quarterback in Pittsburgh. So if the Steelers do land Ayuk, he could be productive. But they also got to get the ball to Pickens. They also have a new offensive coordinator. So it's and he's moving for a few million bucks a year.

It's fine. But I just think there are certain positions that are dependent on other positions. And I think if I was a wide receiver, I would love to line up opposite of Debo Samuel. And then you can't cheat in the box because of George Kittle. And then McCaffrey can catch the ball out of the backfield. And then you have a coach scheming you up. So I think it's a great place to be a wide receiver. That's why Kittles is a fifth rounder.

Jennings is a six-rounder, McCaffrey's better than ever. Well, Kyle Shanahan's a big part of that. So if IUC wants to go to a defensive culture where they can't get the O line right, they've run through offensive coordinators, it's a tougher conference, a tougher division, it's a choice, and you'll make a few million dollars, but you're not, you're going to win more in San Francisco, and you're going to make a lot of money in San Francisco. You're just going to make more. So I'm not saying money doesn't matter.

but as the season gets extended, do you want to be invisible in January? Pittsburgh will be, San Francisco won't. And you can make so much money now on Instagram. NFL guys make money on shoe deals. There's so many endorsements. It was so interesting. Years ago, I heard a story. This was like six years ago.

Dak was like in his third year, and somebody showed me a sheet of all his opportunities with endorsements. I couldn't believe it. Brady and Mahomes I get, I'm like, that's not winning playoff games. What, what in the, there is value to being on TV, to be a part of a big brand, and Niners win a lot of football games.

Niners matter in the NFC in January and February. That's when people love watching the NFL. That's when they really watch. So it's a choice. But I just think if I'm a wide receiver, I'm like, I want an offensive coach. I want a highly effective quarterback. Pitchburg doesn't even know who their quarterback is.

They don't know who it is. You got to learn a new playbook? It's a choice. But Robbie Anderson does feel like they may be sealing up this deal. It's been rumored. A lot of smart NFL reporters. I got singed on this. This thing's been back and forth.

Apparently, there's a lot of acrimony right now in the Niners building a report today. they're just over it. It's not like they haven't offered IUC money. They like him, but they're just like, hey, it's just too noisy. And I also think the Niners are making the right choice to get Brock Purdy a left tackle. Brock Purdy is not Josh Allen. He's not 6.5.250 250. Brock Purdy's a smaller guy.

He needs a left tackle. I don't want him getting banged on. And I said this earlier. If you told me IYUK is leaving, I could still argue they'll win the NFC West. If you tell me Trent Williams is gone, they got issue. because that's not a good offensive line with Trent Williams. I mean, he's a wall. He's Tyrone Smith in his prime.

He is a wall if he gets his hands on you. And with that, Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports, a decade in the NFL is joining us in studio on a Friday. We got all sorts of stuff. I can think two things, Mark. I can be happy for a guy making more money, but think, man, if I was a receiver, I'd like Kyle Shanahan. Sure. Of course. I just, okay, here's, I know, I understand your perspective and I love that we can come on the show and give different perspectives.

Yeah. As a former player, I think it's important to understand maybe what he's thinking a little bit. And watching, you know, Christian McCaffrey get, who was already the highest paid running back in the league, get another $3 million, whatever on his contract restructured a couple months ago. Yeah. You're like, whoa. I think the number that you mentioned, the $26 million was offered back in May. I'm not positive that that offer is still on the table. So it's not like play for 26 like we potentially were going to agree upon back in May.

I think right now it's play for your fifth year option, which is 14.1. Much different than, I mean, we're talking astronomical amounts money for a kid's game. I understand, but it is a business, right? There is the business side. There's the dollars and cents side. And so you got to deal with that. animal. So I think if you're saying play for 14.1 and you know shut up and play ball, stop whining, we play for 14.1, let's say he has the exact same numbers as last year.

Then he gets tagged. Then what? You make 23, 24, 25, maybe, but on a one-year deal. Now you're just playing one-year deals and gambling on any injuries. You see what I mean? So in my opinion, if it was strictly money, if money was the, only factor, and Brandon Ayyuk says, I want the most dollars I can get, he would have went to New England. He would have went to New England and been the fifth non-QB and NFL history to sign a $100 million contract, if it was money. Yeah. But I think there's more to it than that. I think, I don't recall a time where he's complained about not getting the ball. Let's face it, he plays with an ensemble cast. Right. Ensemble cast, you don't get as many monologues in that movie.

Right? Right. Like, you're going to win best picture, not best whatever role. There's too many supporting characters. There's too many main characters. They got everything. But bottom line is, think about it this way, this analogy really helped me understand it. If I walk into a Ferrari and the price of that Ferrari is $250,000. And I say, okay, $250,000. I like that. However, I'm only going to drive this car three days a week. I'd like to pay $200,000 for it. The dealer's going to look at you like you're crazy. Right?

Well, they have a Ferrari, a Lamborghini, they got a Porsche, they got them all in the garage, and they use them at their own will. The thing they'll miss out on if you don't sign Brandon Ayyuk is some of his production. And I think he helps make this offense go in a way, that I don't know if somebody else that they're going to trade for is going to do. The guy can beat man coverage. He's really fast. And when you play man coverage against the 49ers, good luck.

Right? Good luck. Well, also, if he forces you into zone coverage, Shanahan will pick you apart and Brock Purdy will pick you apart. And here comes you sec coming in. I mean, that's a, what do we call him, a UFO. Remember before the Super Bowl? Unidentified flying object.

Why? because that guy's all over the place. How are we going to match up with them? What personnel are we putting in? Are they running it downhill at us? Fourses you to play zone. Yeah, I mean, he can force you into zone or he will rip your heart out in man to man.

I mean, look at his production last year. Throw up the stats for last year. He had, I want to say, what, 75 receptions. 68 of those receptions, 68 were first downs or touchdowns? seven receptions were not moving the chains or giving your team six points. That's something to think about. Look at all the players.

Look at the company he's in. And then look at the amount of targets. Look at his production. If he just give him the numbers that Tyreek Hill has, give him 171 catches. He'd have 2,000 yards. So if you're telling me he's not worth it, I don't know. Now, was $26 million enough in May? Maybe.

Maybe not. I'm not a cap guy. I'm not an agent. I don't, you know, go back and forth. Of course, they got to save a little room for Trent Williams. They got to save a little room for Brock Purdy. A lot. Right?

And so this is, this is, I'm not saying it's like a no-brainer for the 49ers, but there's got to be some common ground. Maybe it's not 35, like Justin Jefferson a year, 35 million a year. But maybe it's, you know, maybe not 20. maybe it's 28 or whatever. You know, and obviously this is me outside looking in players' perspective as a former player, not that I know every transaction that the 49ers have done.

But I do know, I don't recall any of the, and you can fact-check this, and if I'm wrong, I totally own it. But I don't think anybody else has played out their fifth-year option. These guys got re-up, Bosa re-upped, right? Debo Samuel, re-upped before the fifth year. They didn't play their fifth-year option and then just become an unrestricted free agent. So if that's been the M.O. of the organization, why wouldn't you try and get this deal done, which it sounds like they did before camp? You know, like let's avoid the nonsense and the noise that

we're talking about right now. I mean, it's great for us. We have something to talk about, but you understand where I'm coming from. I think there's, you're leaving a lot on the table both sides if you don't get this thing done. I feel like repair the relationship, man, and figure out that common ground and move on because I think this kid wants to win. I don't remember him complaining about getting the ball. I think he helps this offense enough to warrant paying him enough. Now, is it going to be top in the league? I don't think it's top in the league.

If Trent Williams wasn't up or was 29, they'd probably get the deal done. Probably, yeah. Well, I'm sure. They're terrified of losing him. Okay, which one are we going to go with? Are we going to lose our left tackle or lose a receiver and try and plug and play somebody else? You got to go left tackle. Like, I get that.

I totally get that. That's what I think it is. As soon as something happens to Brock Purdy. Yeah, come on, man. I mean, now, that's no disrespect to Dobbs and Allen, who are battling it out, right? I think it's Brandon Allen is one of their backups. But we have that Saints at 49ers game coming up here. And so I'm interesting, interesting times.

And it's stuff. You know, when guys go through this stuff, your players understand, the coaches understand, the GM understands, agents understand. But you've got to figure it out. And I hope they do because he looks good in that 149. and under your uniform and so does that offense. So we've got, you do the Bears game, the opener. We've got this weekend, there's just a bit, everybody's playing this weekend. Yep.

So there's a lot of games to look at. You know, I was talking about this the other day, that the Raiders get Gardner Menshoe, but they're not going to get the same one because you're not getting Shane Steichen. And a lot of times you think, oh, we acquire a guy, but about 33% of free agents hit. Like, it's just a different coach, culture, sensibility. The way they talk to you, the way the plays come in, the way the offense is structured

around you or not. It matters. One of the teams I picked as a dark horse is Washington, and the reason I like it, they replaced everybody. So every single, there is no like, hey, this is my office. Well, this is my region. The owner down, it's all new. They're the one team I look at and think, there's no like tribal, you know. It's not clicky. There's no clicks. Nobody knows where to sit at the lunch table. That's right.

Everybody's new to the school. They just stand up beneath their lunch. So that's my team that I'm like, and I got rid of people that were really struggling. They didn't replace legends. Is there a team to you when you look around this? That's my, his is Minnesota, mine's Washington. Is there a team you look at and you're like, there's just, you know, last year, Houston shocked us. Yeah.

Do you think, I mean, these rookie. quarterbacks, I mean, is there just a team mark that you look at and you think, God, they're getting disrespected. They get no love at all. I feel like Minnesota, I might agree with J. Mack a little bit. I just, the big question mark is the quarterback? Is Sam Darnold going to be, you know, I love Sam. I just, is he going to be enough for that team that's built to win right now is the big question? And if he's not, is J.J. McCarthy ready? Okay, well, that's a big, big if, especially in an offense like that that runs through the quarterback. It does. Oh, 100%. I mean, it's Kevin O'Connell. It's everything is seen through the quarterback's lens. What do you mean when you say? I think the entire building

revolves around the quarterback. And I don't care if it's ticket sales, promotional stuff, offensive scheme, make sure we have a left tackle, make sure the quarterback's upright, make sure we have a running game, make sure we have a defense. That Brian Flores' defense is legit, and they're built to win now. That offense around whoever's playing quarterback is built to win now. Yes. They just re-up their tackle, big money, maybe the most money in the franchise history.

Like, that tells me they're in it to win it right this second. That's what I feel like. So if the biggest question mark is the quarterback, that's a big one. And, you know, hopefully Sam proves that he's, what if he comes in and he's like, Rich Gannon? By the way. Reemerges and second part of his career and just lets the world on fire.

Baker and Gino. 100% new career and it's a change in regime a change in philosophy and when you get in one of those systems just for the audience's perspective as a quarterback okay here we go they get offense this is nice this is nice right you know and it's hard when it's more of a defensive regime that's just the nature of the game i'm sure the defensive guys love it and that's great but as a quarterback specifically, it's nice to have either a former quarterback or former offensive coordinator or something as your head coach running the show.

So you get, there's two or three games in week one. That's no disrespect to Rex Ryan, by the way. Please, don't say you that way. I love Rex. Okay. I'm still loyal to Rex. All right. You get one of the fascinating games.

You get the, more of the best one o'clock games ever. I know. Caleb and the Bears. At home, 72 in Chicago. The green grass, you can smell it. How much will you take, you'll watch every snap of the bears, what are you looking for? Like what to you, I'm just a sports guy,

but what do you look at and go, that's a tell, that's a tell. My immediate thing is, and it's only going to be a small sample size, but I want to know who he's most comfortable throwing to. You know, is it Rome? Is it Keenan Allen? Is it DJ Moore?

Who becomes that, like, number one, or is it just complete John Stockton spread it out to everybody? You know what I mean? I'm excited to look for that. I'm excited to see if this defense comes back the way they finish the year, if there's any kind of setback or any kind of lull or what they're looking at. They're also going against the team in Tennessee with a completely different identity, right? They were defense with Vrable, run the ball, Henry.

I mean, it was King Henry is getting the ball 50 times against. game maybe so you know buckle up your chint strap make sure you got two mouthpieces and go try and knock this guy down and good luck uh it's like tackling uh brandon jacobs back in the day with the giants like good luck dude it's gonna be a 12 round slug fest so we're they're probably gonna win that well this is a totally different team who's will levis i've seen him play out of his shoes and i've seen him play pretty pedestrian so what's that guy going to do what are they doing at receiver you know what's they've been trying to replace a j brown with trade I don't know if that's quite worked out yet.

So who's going to be the number one there? But a ton of stuff, a ton of storylines going into that game. I'm fired up about it. That's going to be fun. Does preseason, I know they always say it's vanilla schemes. Sure. But it snaps. Oh, it's real.

It's real football. It gets turned up in the regular season, turned up again in the playoffs. Here's my thing on playing guys versus not playing guys. A guy like Andy Reid, that's an old school West Coast mentality where in the old, in the old four-season, pre-season games, first game, you get a series. Second game, you get about a half, maybe. Third game, you get into the third quarter, maybe one drive into the third quarter, and then fourth game you sit out. That was the old mentality. Now, McVeigh has flipped that on its head, and it's been plenty successful.

That could be their thing, just like they have with the draft. and acquiring players, not picks kind of thing. Okay, fine. That's just a different way of looking at it. Six one way, half a dozen the other. My thing is because of this evolution of not playing players in the preseason, right, avoiding injury because it is real football. And if they get hurt in the preseason, then you're really sunk.

So if you're ultra conservative, you keep those guys out, which I understand. But I need to get them reps. I need to get him live reps where he has to, get that dust off the old processor in between his ears and grind and be exhausted after a few series, a few, you know, drives, whatever it is. I need that. So how do you create that? You do the joint practice.

Joint practice to me, especially if you do it two or three days in a row, those team periods are just like live football. The only thing you're missing is the flow, the ebbs and flows of the game, right? Because you have these 12 play racks, right? you have 12 plays in a row, good on good. One's versus once. One offense versus one defense of whatever other team. So when you get those, you don't get the,

they're scripted plays. So it doesn't happen necessarily in a drive format. Like we're doing all third and three to sevens right now. And these 12 plays in a row are third and three to seven. So you're locked in on that portion, that small sample size of third downs. Well, in a game, you have to go from that. to, oh man, it was third and seven. We converted, but now we're on the goal line.

Boom, switch to goal line mode. Okay, here we are. Or maybe he didn't make it to the goal line. Maybe he made it to the red zone. Boom, red zone mode. What are my rules for red zone? What is this defense doing to me in the red zone? Oh man, we took a sack.

We're backed up. What's our philosophy on second and 20? What's our philosophy on whatever? You know what I mean? So you're constantly switching between these different scenarios of the game. You don't quite get that in practice because it's not just a full game in practice. They try and simulate it,

but that's where you get some of that preseason work in. But whatever you do, you're taking a risk, right? Because it's not too hand-touch in a preseason game. At least in those joint practices, you know, for the most part, nobody's going to take off your quarterback's head, right? Unless it's a cheap shot, and then there goes the fight, and then everybody gets fined. Nick Saban was on hard knots.

Great quote. And he said, you know why you guys can't get the quarterbacks right in this league? the killer expectations. You build them up. And then you guys all get impatient if by like year two, week four, they're not a star. And it's like stuff's hard. Oh yeah. We don't, we don't do that in college. We didn't do that at Alabama. Wait your turn. Okay, go to go to you with the Jets. I mean, did you feel the pressure of expectations? Did you feel it? A hundred percent. A hundred percent you do. And even when you try to block it out, it's nearly impossible. You got this thing called a cell phone. Which is worse now than ever. Yeah. So, I mean, and it was, you know, Instagram hadn't even come out yet.

and Twitter, I think like Ashton Coocher or Oprah Winfrey, had just gotten a million followers. So to date myself, that's where I'm at in life. But basically, these expectations make it difficult for a quarterback because you're trying to get the results you want, but you want to make sure the process is right and that this kid is developing into what you want them to be. Now, winning games is great.

Learning lessons while you win those games is even better. but generally speaking when you know coach saven was talking about that clip that you're you're mentioning that soundbite he references Peyton manning and the most interceptions thrown by a rookie well he completely flipped the script after that and the rest is history right but you don't know if that kind of terrible rookie season gives that guy shell shock not everybody's as strong mentally as Peyton manning to just come back water off the ducks back and move on with your life and go light up the league. So it's this balance of giving these guys weapons, trying to bring them along, and the trickiest part is there's no rulebook, right? And it really flipped the year before

me and Matthew Stafford with Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan in 2008. That draft was the year that both of those guys went high, both of those players played right away. Before that, the thinking was you wait your turn, Carson Palmer behind Kitna, you name it. And he was the number one pick. Manning was like one of the early ones to play right away. But it was a lot of teams wanted you to wait your turn, watch a really good player, Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith, old school mentality, old school regime. That's why they do it that way. Now, there's benefits to that. There's also benefits to playing right away. But after Matt Ryan made the playoffs, his rookie year, there was no way me and Matt Stafford weren't starting in 2009. It was like, oh, they did it. Yeah. Well,

think about Caleb. Now everybody's looking at C.J. Stroud. Well, he did it. That's right. He did it in Houston and they suck compared to you guys. Hold on. They don't suck. They're actually really good.

They were sneaky good. They had the team. They had the coach. They had the motivator in Domeco Rhymes. They had somebody to bring it all together. And all those factors are important and they're hard enough to overcome. But expectation is one of the worst. And you have to set realistic goals.

realistic expectations. But when you add all that talent, it only makes it tougher on a guy like Caleb Williams. What was the go-to-your-first camp as a rookie quarterback? Listen, it's tough. It's, well, I mean, you... We played against one of the top five defenses

in, like, the decade prior to me. Baltimore? No, no, no. Well, against Rex every day in practice. Right? So practice was brutal. Oh, practice was horrible. And you played at USC with pros.

Just going like one for six, in team pass, I was like, yes, we completed one. Really? Oh, my God. It was so difficult. I'd never seen blitzes like this. I'd never seen simulated pressure where everybody looks like they're coming from one side. Half of them drop out.

And here comes somebody literally running under my arm as I'm trying to throw. And it's like, sack. You know, they're screaming in your ear. Sack. Fart Scott screaming in my face at the line of scrimmage. I mean, it was... Did you ever drive home? I know where you stayed on that golf course.

Oh, yeah. Did you ever drive home and think, uh-uh. Was he like Voldemore? You can't say his name? No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't like to be polarizing with my guests. I'm polarizing enough. So my take was you were staying at Trump's place, whatever.

So when you're, did you ever drive home and think to yourself, I kind of miss Southern California? I could have come back to the U.S. Not until it started snowing. Not until it started snowing. After, I learned very quickly that after Halloween, you got to put away your rainbow sandals. You got to wear actual shoes. And that one really broke my heart.

No, but in all fairness, Rex was a first time coach as well. So he wanted his defense to be right. Well, at the same time, you're trying to develop a rookie quarterback. And it's really hard to do both. And that was before we had Braylon Edwards. It was Jericho Cotry, Chauncey Stucky,

and Dustin Keller, Thomas Jones, Tony Richardson. Like, we had some players, but we were searching for another wide receiver. Somebody else to unlock some of those things back to Brandon Ayyuk, unlock some of those things to force a defensive coach to find out, figure out, how am I going to play this guy?

And then you go up to the line of scrimmage with clues and say they're going to play him that way. I'm either going to him or I got other options. You know what I mean? We didn't have quite that yet. And Rex's team was loaded. I mean, this defense was nasty. Dorel Revis was running routes for the receivers, basically.

I mean, he might have been my top target in preseason. Like, it was ridiculous. The guy was unbelievable. Okay, so when? give me your first you know Mahomes said year three the light went on was there a moment for you

and it probably wasn't first year that thing slowed down so not this has nothing to do with like I don't want to be in a comparison with Mahomes this is just my second year when we had Raylan Edwards Santoneo Holmes

Jericho Kotry Dustin Keller Sean Green did I say Ladan Tomlinson yeah Ladenian Tomlinson that's a legit group well we didn't run a ton of empty my rookie year. We come out in training camp and start running empty against our defense, it made

them look pretty plain vanilla because there's green, yellow, red, and empty. Green, they're rushing four. I got time. Five is yellow at the stoplight, right, at the signal. Yellow. Okay, be alert. It's man to man across the board with five rushers on five pass protectors, my own lineman. Six, I got a problem. I need to bring somebody in or I need a quick answer. We started playing the four, five, six game with those guys. And torts you. them in training camp. I mean, lit them up like a Christmas tree because we had players. We had players that they needed to respect. Who's going to run out with Ladena and Tomlinson when he runs out and empty and he's isolated on a linebacker? You're going to send Dave Harris, no offense to Dave Harris.

I love you, Dave. But you're going to send Dave Harris to go cover that guy. You're going to go send Bart Scott to go cover Ladenian Tomlinson out in space. Come on, man, let's go. Let's play that game until you guys figured out. And we're going to keep going until you can stop us, right? So we had a much more competitive training camp that second year. We didn't win every snap by any means because we still had an elite defense. But at least we could compete. Year one, it was like. Sleepless nights?

Oh, dude. It was rough. Sleepless nights because you're so dang sore and just trying to figure out what the heck is going on. It's a blur. You know, it's a blur of that rookie year. There's so much going on. And I just felt a lot more comfortable the second year. I wouldn't say the light totally came on, but it was like, man,

we got options. I don't have to do everything here. Let's let these guys eat. I just got to facilitate. No trips to Corvallis that first year. Okay. Too soon. Shots fired.

Oh, wait, time out. That was a bad trip for you. That was her only bad trip. I couldn't win in the state of Oregon. I don't know what it is. A lot of people. Golf, Band and Dunes can't win there. Eugene, Corvallis, blanked.

You're not the only one that struggled at Banded Dunes and Eugene. Yeah. Somebody, do you think just totally off topic, But Trent Crim from the Independent from Ted Lassow? Am I starting to give his vibe? So I'll give you a heads up. So my wife doesn't love sports, doesn't really. And when you're on, she was in the car.

And she goes, I like that guy you had on today. Now, she didn't see you. Oh. And she goes. Good thing. It's better for her. Yeah. So she said, yeah, he tells, I could follow that.

He tells good stories. That's what I said. But I didn't want to tell you because you already got the looks. You don't need any more. Oh, here we go. Here we go, Romeo. You don't need any more love. You get enough on this show.

I appreciate you. All right, Mark Sanchez. We gave him the Bears game that you were going to have more fun. It's going to be awesome. I can't wait. It's a great opener. Cannot wait. I just discovered J-Lab headphones.

I'm hooked. Recent East Coast trip. Unbelievable. They are noise-canceling headphones. Look for the blue box. Walmart Target, Best Buy, airports across the country. J-Lab Mark Sanchez. you crushed it, it's the herd.

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Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Orsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King,

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To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hippocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice.

Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit.

This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hippocrat as part of the Mike Coultera podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to you. yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized,

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Conky, his best friend, and business manager. And we've got a new show called the 1021 podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down

the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So this was a borderline comical yesterday. The NCAA opposed a four-year show cause on Jim Harbaugh. If he comes back to the NCAA to coach football in the next four years, he's getting a spanking. He's not coming back. Remember it was about a year ago, two years ago. We kept hearing about the 12-team playoff was years away.

They're already talking about a 14-team playoff, and we haven't gotten to the 12 yet. Do you know why that is? Because of Fox and ESPN and NBC. The grown-ups now run the sport, not the bureaucrats. College football is a great game of pickup basketball, and the NCAA is the one-year-old. guy who keeps calling ticky-tack fouls and killing the vibe. The SEC this week said, we're going to now mandate injury reports like pro football. The NCAA doesn't even lead with that.

Head sets, Big Ten, SEC, they've decided to use them. Why? Television networks. NCAA, it's too much work. I don't know. More red tape needed. College football going forward. is going to be led by TV networks.

For years, this sports had a messed up schedule, won't use available technology. They're just killing a great sport, a remarkable vibe. Within two years, the top football programs in college will have general managers running the program, giving coaches more time to develop young high school and college players. It will look more like pro football. The Big Ten will be the AFC, the SEC will be the NFC, and there'll be a couple of teams we allow to come into the playoffs, but they won't do much. That's because the TV network's tired for years of a sport making $8 billion and not hiring a CEO. Sometimes you need grownups, and that's what college football needs.

So Jim Harbaugh, if he comes back to college football, he'll get a spanking. He'll be sent to the corner. Let me tell you what he's going to be doing over the next four years. Playing in January at SoFi. He's not coming back to college football. And college football is exploding with the NIL, with the transfer portal, no more or not as many boring bowl games. Because TV network said, let us do it.

You guys don't know what you're doing. By the way, Michigan, if they face real stiff violations, will sick attorneys on the NCAA, fight it off for years, and the NCAA will eventually wave a white flag. JMAX around the corner with Herd Line News, show cause, please. Fox Sports Radio and Tire Rack, giving away a set of four tires every two weeks this summer. Want to get rules and enter?

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Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently, I've become quite the helper myself.

And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike! I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man.

If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know.

Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura podcast network available on the I-Fart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports.

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If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King,

recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the team everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment.

To hear this and more, Listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Very exciting. Stuff going on. I can't wait for this weekend. Air show in Chicago, but beyond that, we got NFL games this weekend. And a lot of these star quarterbacks are playing. We're getting right around mid-August right now.

July's dead month. Oh, by the way. Wemby? Oh, yeah. Against the Americans. Well, assuming the Americans. win. We'll get to it shortly. J. Mack with the news.

No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. As Cowher just alluded to, France has taken down favor Germany and France will meet the winner of USA Serbia in the gold medal match this weekend. USA up

next against Serbia here. Now, Colin, I'm just, I'm on record. This is a very dangerous spot. Everybody thinks, oh, USA beat him by, I think, 26 points. I bet Serbia to cover and LeBron to have a good game on my draft king's bet. So we talked about the spread, I think Wednesday morning.

It was 17 and a half. It's now 14 and a half. The money's pouring in on Serbia. Serbia is the side. Doesn't mean they'll win, but that's the side. Again, one of the crazy stats was, with Yokic on the floor, the teams were even, plus minus even. But Yokic off, it was like minus whatever it was.

Anyway, Steve Kerr does not want his team to get too complacence, said the U.S. can't get lulled to sleep because they've beaten them twice. I'm just, I'm very nervous about this game for the U.S. I'm optimistic, like you said, that they'll win, but this will not be a week. My guess is Kerr tightens up the rotation. Yes.

So don't think Aunt Edwards won't play as many minutes. LeBron will play more minutes. Serbia is going to play its butt off. So my take is LeBrono have a nice, nice game. They'll tighten up the rotation considerably. You're not going to see the bench scoring for Team USA. And I also think it's just a very, very close game. I'll take USA to win by about eight, seven.

Okay. I'm going to ask you this. You know, he's my favorite player. Steph Curry has struggled, okay? And this is a physical, physical Serbia team. If Curry's like one of nine, is there a world where he's like, listen, I'm sorry, I'm rolling with Derek White or Drew Holiday over Curry in the fourth quarter because are guys struggling and you know they're going to target him defensively.

I think Kerr's going to go with the winning hand. I think whoever's playing well gets the play. It's hard, though. You're asking to ask international competition when you're facing Yokic. You're going to beat him a third time? soundly, good luck. I think it's going to be the game of the tournament. I'm a little nervous for the U.S.

I do think we get the job done. This is a tough match. This ain't the dream team facing guys who want autographs at halftime, okay? This is like a real basketball team. I know. It's going to be a great game coming up soon here later today. Next up, the Brandon Nyuk sweepstakes. We're trying to monitor it by the minute, Colin.

Allegedly, the Niners are asking for two first-round picks from Pittsburgh. The Steelers were apparently the frontrunner. Nothing has been agreed upon yet, although a bunch of radio guys in Pittsburgh seem to think it's done. Two first-round picks seems a little bit steep. And you've got to make him a top five-pay receipt. I would do a first-round pick, but I don't want two, plus I have to pay him. Where's the win for me? That's way too steep.

I just don't get why the Niners would want two first-round pit. What are you doing with two picks now? If you're the Niners, what would you demand? Of all the deals so far that I've heard, Amari Cooper and whatever picks is the best deal. That, to me, helps you now. Because you want to win now your favorite in every game this season. We want to go back to the Super Bowl.

You cannot just remove Ayuk. Amari's not a beat you down the field guy. He's a good receiver, but he's not an over-the-top guy. I don't think you're losing that much if you go from Ayuk to Cooper. I think Ayuk's a much better blocker. But by all accounts, Ayuk only wants Pittsburgh. He's got, he's really hell-bent. Apparently Washington was a team he wanted.

Yeah. Because of Jaden Daniels connection. And then now he's kind of off Washington. I guess they, they're not willing to do whatever deal the Niners wanted. But two first-round picks, Colin? There's no way I'm moving two first-round picks for a receiver. I don't think of it. And I have to pay them.

Yeah. I need those picks because I got to hit on some picks because I'm paying a receiver $29 million. The Pittsburgh's not paying anyone else on offense. Well, but they're paying. all sorts of people on defense. That's Pittsburgh. How's that working out for? Well, it's not. They shouldn't. Yeah. All right. We got the final story here is several

quarterbacks under a ton of pressure to perform in 2024. Some competitions for a starting spot. Bleacher report broke down the quarterbacks most likely to lose their starting jobs this season. At the top of the list, no surprise Daniel Jones, who has Drew

Locke breathing down his neck. Then there's the Aiden O'Connell Gardner-Minshoe, Poo-Plater in Vegas. You've got Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, which is the actual competition. Sam Darnal 4. Give me a break. That's dumb. That's so disrespectful.

Jacobi Brissette 5. They have Sam Darnal above Will Levis. Yeah, that's stupid. Well, it's just not... You know, it's dumb. It's just not intelligent. Sam Darnal's not going to lose his job. And does Sean Watson at 6?

They have to play him. Yeah, come on. They're trapped. That's the only bad contract in the league. I mean, Russell's, if you head on five draft picks, And Bo Nix heads, you're going to forget about that by November. Yeah, like, we like Gino Smith, but he should be on this list over Deshawn Watson. Like, and Gino Smith, probably not going to lose his job, but if you're doing a list, how is Sam

Donald for Deshaun Watson six? I'm not really feeling that. I buy the first three. And by the way, where's the Denver Broncos situation? They're just not on the list? Well, Bo Nix is going to start and not lose his job. You mean third on the depth chart, Bo Nix? You can't buy that.

You're buying that. He's third on the one. I mean, they listed in third on the shelter. So is J.J. McCarthy, but those young guys with the install, they're not ready yet. J.J. McCarthy will be a solid backup by the second week in September. I think you're sleeping on Jared Sidham. Remember two years ago he had a really good kid. I think Jared Stidham makes me sleep.

Come on. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Lisa Leslie last hour, our women. crushed and continued to crush at the Olympics. Jordan Palmer stops by

as well. By the way, Ed, this was good news. Did you hear Cliff Kingsbury talking about Jaden Daniels, who's a great athlete, and you can get away with just being a great athlete for a couple years, but if you want to grow as a quarterback, you've got to study. Here is Cliff on his

rookie quarterback. This team, I think, makes the playoffs. Here's Kingsbury. I love the process and I love every approaches each day. How he handles the good, the bad. all the installs. He must study it like crazy a night because every morning when we get here

and he walks through with us, he nails it. And so you just appreciate the work he's putting in. He's paying the cost to try and get where he wants to get. And that's all you can ask for a young player. Yeah, listen, I mean, you can get away with athleticism for a while. But Cam Newton was shot at 30

and totally unathletic. Philip Rivers in his last year at 39, won 11 games for the Colts, 4,100 yards, and a 97 passer rating and couldn't avoid that chair if it was chasing him because he was good pre-snap.

Philip Rivers once told me on the air, I like the process better than the actual games. You can get away running around for a while, Kyler Murray, but at some point you've got to get off those video games. You can audible your way out of sacks and pressures. And, I mean, Johnny Mansell is a great example. And Johnny and Michael Vic would both admit it.

They didn't put the work in the first couple years. They just didn't put the work in. and they're both excellent athletes. The fact that this kid is such a great athlete, and Cliff Kingsbury, I'm reading the entire quote here, he's like, we put an install in the next day he nails it. I know he's going back to his place and watching film all night. That almost guarantees success.

If you have the athleticism to beat people with your feet and you're a workaholic in the film room, I'm telling you, last year the number two quarterback picked was the one that popped. Jaden Daniels, Washington. you got a fantasy team getting down to your last pick I'm going to roll the dice

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