The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Raheem Morris's timeouts, Matt Hasselback

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

Colin and Jason discuss Falcons head coach Raheem Morris's decision to not use his timeouts near the end of the game against the Commanders. Former NFL quarterback and analyst Matt Hasselback joins the show to discuss the weekend's football action.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, here we go. On a Monday, Colin right, Colin wrong. Where Colin was right? Well, they were my number one dark horse team to make the playoffs. Every year I pick one team. Last year it was the Rams. This year it was Washington. I felt just getting Dan Snyder, the owner, out of the building, was worth wins.

I also thought Jaden Daniels was going to be a little Lamar Jackson Light. He is a spectacular talent and a wonderful kid. You knew he was going to be great when the coaching staff couldn't stop heaping praise on him in the preseason, which coaches never do. We got the commanders right. Where Colin was wrong. I think I've probably been too high on the Green Bay Packers. They got beat by the Lions twice, the Vikings twice, and the Eagles. I like this roster a lot.

I like the coach, but they can't beat the good teams. And I had them above Minnesota and Detroit in the herd hierarchy. When they're really good, like the fourth quarter when they came roaring back, they are so talented. and so much fun to watch. But they're 0 and 5 against the top teams in the NFC. So they're probably a year away. I kind of fell for him, but I still like their future. Where Colin was right?

Justin Herbert, I said no young quarterback has had to overcome coaching in his career more than Justin Herbert. Just get him Harbaugh and he'll be magic. Right now, his efficiency for a quarterback with over 400 attempts is the best ever. next to Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers. He's a remarkable kid, 4-2 college major, and a tutor in biology, size, speed. Justin Herbert finally got the coach.

Where Colin was wrong. I like the Colts all year. I love their roster, but that may have been the worst loss in the NFL this year. They lost a close game to the Giants. They were getting housed early. In some of their issues on the back end of their defense, I don't think they're very good,

but there's no division titles here in the last 10 years, and this was a bad one. I've said this before. If Darnold's on the market, I would go after him. I like Joe Flacco. I think Anthony Richardson's talented. But sometimes you've got to cut your losses and acknowledge in the AFC. If we're going to win Big Boy games, we've got to get better at quarterback. If Darnold hits the market and you're the Colts, go get him.

Where Colin was right? Yes, I said, Baker Mayfield in Tampa, I would sign him to a long deal. I thought this was a perfect fit. This organization's always had talent and always had a bit of a chip on its shoulder for being ignored. I thought this was a great fit. And even though Baker and I have had disagreements, Mike Evans, Baker Mayfield, time to throw. Pretty magic.

Do you know he leads the NFL and touchdown passes since he joined Tampa? It's a good receiving course. Not that good. Baker and Darnold, same draft can both play. Where Colin was right? I said the Rams are going to win their division. But keep your eye on the defense, not Matt Stafford. And they just held their last three opponents to single figures.

This defense is really good and getting better. They're very reliant offensively on Puka Nakua and Kairn Williams. But I've said before, I think they're a good team, but not a Super Bowl team. But everybody was loving San Francisco. And I said, no, they're getting old, expensive, and brittle. Keep your eye on the Rams to win the division and watch this defense, and they delivered. Colin was wrong. Yeah, I'm officially selling most of my Kyler-Murie stock.

I was wrong. I've defended him for years. But listen to this. He is 1 and 16 against the NFC West in November and December. What can I say? If I'm going to sit here all the time and tell you I like winners, he doesn't win. I think he's talented. I think he's elusive.

I've defended him even with the gaming stuff. But at some point, I can't keep saying, yeah, I love this guy. He can't beat division rivals. One in 16 in November and December. I'm selling my stock at a loss, by the way, at a loss. Where Colin was right? Stop telling me that Kansas City Chiefs are lucky. Best coach, best coordinator, best quarterback, best defensive lineman.

Xavier Worthy is becoming a star. Number one seed in all of football. Number two scoring defense. Listen, they don't blow you away. They don't win by route. This is not college. It's hard. The AFC's loaded. God, look at their division. It's Harbaugh. Sean Pay. Even the Raiders play hard.

It's hard to win in this league. It's really hard, and the Chiefs just keep doing it. You were all saying they were lucky in week eight. No, they're not. There is a skill to winning close games. The Patriots did it for 20 years, and they handed the baton to Kansas City. Where Colin was right? You know, when Rex Ryan's name got floated for the Jets, John, I said, absolutely he's a viable candidate.

Ian Rappaport reporting today, believe it or not, he could be interviewed. Everybody makes fun of Rex because he puts it out there. But he's a culture changer. Woody Johnson liked him. Great energy. He's got a view of the world and how to build a football team. And as running games have had kind of a return in the NFL, I would interview Rex Ryan. I said last week I'd interview Pete Carroll.

smart guy. I'd like to interview Pete Carroll. I'd interview Rex Ryan. I don't think the best candidates. I think they're very wary of going to the Jets. And I think Rex Ryan has proven like a Dan Campbell. He'll change the culture. And that's one of the issues. That's why I've said. I think Brable's the guy would hire. If not, Rex Ryan's one of the better culture changers out on the market. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. And with that, 18 years in the NFL and one of our favorite 15 minutes of the week, Matt Hasselbeck now joins us live. So let's go to last night. It is, I don't know how to explain it.

For Jaden Daniels to be this good this quickly, is it brainpower? I mean, he's obviously talented. It just shouldn't be this easy. It shouldn't be this beautiful. Like, are you surprised? What is it? What do I give the credit to? Yeah, listen, the word for me is awesome.

And are you surprised? Yeah, you should be surprised. This guy's playing unbelievable. He's playing just like he did at LSU. And I think like this is an example of it. It matters top down. Ownership, GM, head coach, coordinator, who's in the quarterback room all day with the guy.

But at the end of the day, this guy has an it factor. Listen, I talked about it earlier in the year. I don't know what quarterback I was talking about. But your job is the quarterback, especially on a team like this, is to be the amazing marinara sauce over yesterday's pasta. You don't have the best roster around you. You got to be the guy that changes everything.

This guy has changed everything for this team. And I believe that they believe there's not a team in the NFC that they can't beat. And as long as Jaden Daniels is the quarterback, either with his legs, with his arm, throwing it. He doesn't flinch. He doesn't blink, fourth down, fourth quarter, two minute. He's got everything you're looking for. And for that reason, I think they're a very dangerous team. Undisciplined and frustrating, but very dangerous.

Yeah, they get more penalties and bad moments. And I'll say this. Here's something else I like about him, Matt. And I know I've always said, I don't like my quarterback's hat on backwards. I think the podium matters on Wednesday. People give me crap for that. One of the things I like about him, this team gets penalized a lot. They drop passes.

His body language through all of it, because the camera's always on him. It matters to me. And maybe it shouldn't. Maybe this is just ridiculous. but I'm watching this team beat itself last night for three quarters. And every time you go to him, smile, patting a guy in the butt, does a team sense that? Yeah, well, listen, he's played a lot of football,

and I think a lot of that has to do with why he's so good. He's had some good coaches throughout his career, college career, now at the NFL. But I would say it this way. There's two things for me. Number one, do your teammates believe in you? When times are tough, do they believe in you? and then probably just as importantly, does the opponent fear you? Like, does the opponent feel like, oh, we got this guy?

We got him on the ropes. Or is he one of those guys where the balls in his hands late in the game or they're down? And the opponent's like sitting there on the bench and they're like, ah, shoot, man. We're like, we left him too much time. Or you know what? This guy's going to do what he did, you know, what we've seen him do on film, what we've the film that we've studied. He's going to bring him back.

And there's quarterbacks, like in my playing career and my media career that you just, you put in that category like you gave this guy too much time it doesn't matter if they're down by four with under a minute to go and jaden daniels to me has that it factor that's the aura that he's given off so um listen addison jefferson naler uh t j hawkinson kevin o'connell i'm not disputing any of it but what i notice with darnald is the plays they call in crisis they have him throwing the ball into the teeth of a defense and i've said before I can tell what a coach thinks of you by the play calls. I mean, when they got that ball 2725 and the first downplay was a pass, I'm like,

that's not what coaches do. How much is the weapons and how much is Donald, in your opinion? Yeah, listen, I believe you'll know what a coach thinks of his past protection and his O-line by the plays they call more than the quarterback, but it all fits together. And if you look at the end of that game, the one word for me is trust. Like they trusted him to throw it. it was three times in a row and they did it in a check with me system meaning they'll call a play and they'll alert it or can it or kill it to another play and they got up there and showed run

and he said no no no no yeah yeah alert alert or can can you know like whatever we're going to the second play and they gave him basically the keys to the Lamborghini they said hey you and your guys on the field you got it we trust you we can't have an incompletion what they do they through it with you know sort of short yardage goal line type high completion percentage plays that fit them and so i just think when you have that symmetry with head coach play caller quarterback you're rolling and that's what they got going right now so i i do think i do think it's important that if a player can hit a bonus and you're winning it's a route and a coach says listen i'm going to get a guy a catch he's got a streak he's got a bonus in a route and so the eagles are routing the

Cowboys, the game's over, they go heavy into Saquan Barkley. My take is though, wait a minute, your quarterback's hurt, your backup quarterback's hurt, I don't want Seguan Barclay hurt, what did you make of the 31 plus carries? I'm not anti getting a guy in a blowout a number

or bonus. That's a lot of carries for a team that's got a banged up quarterback. Yeah, listen, I believe in Philly, I believe in everything that they're doing, and this reminds me a little bit because he's real close to this Eric Dickerson record. I think he needs 101 yards. This reminds me, in 05, we had the number one seed locked up in the NFC.

Sean Alexander was really close to the touchdown record. If he gets the touchdown record, he's going to get the MVP. And I just remember Mike Holmgren coming in to our team talking about, hey, we are going to get this touchdown record. Like, this is a big deal. And it's a big deal to Sean, but it's a big deal to all of us. This is an offensive line award. This is a fullback award.

This is a team award. This is a wide receiver's blocking award. And I thought Mike Holmgren did an amazing job of making this. Like, you know what? this is our one and oh this week because that's really the goal you try to go one and oh this every week but when one and no doesn't really matter anymore um or doesn't matter as much you go for that and to me like knowing the personality of philly seeing how strong saquan still looks uh seeing learned knowing how unselfish he was earlier in the year when he could

have been padding his stats and he said no no let let the young guys go let the young guys go and to now still have it in their reach. I don't know. I think you go for it. I think you go for it, and I think you play ball. And I think it's a feather in the cap of everybody there, coaches included. And I think you play fearless and you play to win not only the game in the end of the season,

but also to win this record for that team and for all the Philly. Go for it. Jay Mack and I were talking earlier. I believe the Chargers are the best team in the NFL playoffs. that probably can't win a Super Bowl. And then I go back and I look at Harbaugh's teams everywhere. Stanford didn't have great receivers. The Niners had Michael Crabtree.

They weren't loaded. Michigan won a Natty. They didn't even throw a pass at Penn State. I look at their weapons and think, God, they need a tight end, they need a running back, they need another receiver. Do they have enough juice to win three games, four games, do you think? You know, that's tough. It's an interesting point you make.

Like, they're going to have to play Buffalo. have to play Baltimore. They're going to have like, I just don't know that they're there yet. Like I believe in Jim Harbaugh. I think he's done a great job, setting a great foundation. I've been saying it forever. Herbert is amazing. He's everything you're looking for in a quarterback. It's one of the reasons I was so high on Drake May because he reminds me a lot of Justin Herbert. Now, I think it's an interesting point you bring, but to me, I just think that the class of the AFC, there's a separation line when you talk about Kansas City and you talk about tomorrow and you talk about Buffalo. But the reason I believe that's in that separation is the

quarterback. And so at some point, I don't know if it's this year, at some point, Justin Herbert is going to have to kind of like morph into, yes, the Harbaugh way of doing things, but also kind of getting in that, that legit, like on the podium of the upper echelon guys in the AFC. Is he top five? Yeah, no doubt. Is he on the podium? I don't think you can put them on the podium yet with those other guys I mentioned. It is interesting. Darnold Baker Mayfield. You look at that class now.

Josh Allen, Lamar, Darnold Baker, all of them having career years. I don't remember two quarterbacks that we all kind of bailed on. And yet, they're both stars. Is this

a fundamental change in the league? Have we gotten to a point where quarterback is so important for success in this league now due to rule changes that you have to give guys a second chance you have to you have to make sure it works but i mean it's an insane story in the same year two guys we bailed on are both breaking records how do we explain it yeah and they're both in carolina who who Carolina is what they are the carolina no you know it reminds me of one year uh back in the day i figure of it was the st louis rams or the la rams very early they had nick foals Jared goff

Case Keenum, those were the three guys in the quarterback room. And then later on, Case Keenham's in like the championship game. Nick Foles is in the Super Bowl and Jared Gough is Jared Gaw. Yeah. Like it was just crazy success. I forget the details. But no, it matters. And listen, I do also believe strongly that Sam Darnow will take this into consideration

when his free agency comes. He's going to remember what it was like to be in a organization that doesn't get how to be relevant in December and January and beyond. the Jets. Baker, he'll remember what it was like in Cleveland. They both remember what it was like in Carolina. And they've tasted it now with an organization that not only loves them, but they love it back. And so when you talk about this free agency in hometown discount and yeah, these guys are balling out and hey, you can go get paid, I really believe that they're going to understand and value how great it is to have a head coach and a play caller that I'm in sync with,

or how great it is to have the whole locker room respect me and understand. understand what I went through and then you kind of kind of pulled me out of it. Like I pulled myself out of it, but you helped me, you know, come out of it. Sure. And so, like, I just really think there's something unique and special and I respect it. I think it's awesome. So the one team that I'm fascinated with, in a weird way, I love Sean Peyton and Bo Nix, but if Cincinnati gets in and has to go to Buffalo, the pressure on Buffalo is insane.

And the pressure on Cincinnati is a nothing burger. sneak in. When you look at Buffalo, take your career, I feel of all the teams in this league, because Philadelphia has pressure, but they've been to Super Bowls. I feel like there's enormous pressure on Sean McDermott. Were you ever on a team, you went into the playoffs and you could feel the pressure? You knew you had to win those first couple games. And does a coaching staff change the way they can?

coach did you feel a tightness in your entire 18 year career does that exist or is that just a media thing yeah no it exists but i don't think i was fully aware of it but i remember in 05 it was 05 we're playing a wildcard game against washington and i didn't know this i tried to like you know keep my head down and just like go want to know each week but the seawks hadn't won a playoff game since like chuck knox was the coach and he beat miami down like against don shula it was like this weird thing. And I remember pregame the national anthem's going on and all these former Seahawks like the Steve Largent era guys, they're all lined up and they're getting teary-eyed and they're gassed up and they're like, let's like this is game day for them. You know, these guys

that were in their 50s, it was game day for them. And that was when I really felt like, oh, wow, this loss would be devastating to people outside of the guys who are wearing a helmet today. And I think that's probably true for, you know, that the entire, like, community that lives and breathes by the bill's success right now in December because they are so invested in this program. Yeah. But I think one of the things I would say that I really like that the bills have done and Josh Allen has done, he's kept it really focused about football. And I think that's just their key. But yeah, hey, does anybody want to play the Cincinnati Bengals if they get in? No.

I promise you. That's the team that de-coordinators. are afraid of. They're like, they're afraid of nothing, but they're afraid of, I think, that Cincinnati offense. Yeah, I think you're right. Cincinnati in the AFC and Washington and the NFC, Jaden Daniels is a problem. I mean, he says there's nothing you could. He's like Lamar Jackson, but, but a little better in the pocket than Lamar was as a rookie. Yeah, there's the, the problem with, the problem with the Washington situation versus the Cincinnati situation is the weapons in Cincinnati scare the heck out of you.

I don't know if you saw Hard Knocks and Mike Tomlin talking about. Like Mike Tomlin literally said at one point something to the effect of like basically, I'd rather play Baltimore and Lamar than have to deal with this team with a losing record, by the way, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase T. Higgins. Like that's the team that, you know, I was in Cincinnati for this game actually. And it was just like this, this moment where like all of Cincinnati was like, Joe's going to do it. Like just Joe's going to do it. He might do it by himself.

Like we're not going to kick a field goal from inside the tent. Like he might just do it by himself. But I think everyone believes that. And again, like I was talking about earlier, the respect of your locker room is really important. But to have the fear of the opposing team when you have the ball, like that's everything you're looking for as a quarterback. When they feel like, dang it, like he's got the ball,

we're probably going to lose right now. And Burrow has that, even with the year that they've had record-wise. No run game, pass protection, sketchy, He's magic. Matt Hasselbeck, 18 years. Such a present for us during the holidays. Love having you on Mondays, buddy. Happy New Year, Colin.

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J-MAC, we're going to have a glorious next couple of days. College football, playoff games, but first, J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. But let's start with that Vikings win over the Packers yesterday. The sweep with the season series against Green Bay sets up a seismic week 18 matchup against the Lions for the top seed in the NFC and the NFC North title. After the ninth straight victory, Justin Jefferson spoke about the team's resiliency.

We're relentless. I think, you know, just so many different things happen throughout the season, throughout, you know, the games that can really, you know, determine, well, if we're going to fold or not, or if we're going to hang out here down and not. It's just countless times where, you know, we're picking each other up, you know, where we're leaning on each other and we're feeding off each other with the energy and with the excitement and just with those big players. I mean, Naylor, Addison, Hawkinson, Jefferson may have nailed.

I remember Naylor was a Michigan State kid, if I recall. He was a Big Ten guy, I think. And they just got dudes everywhere. That is the best receiving core in the league. And if you load up on Justin Jefferson, the other guys are good enough. Like Jordan Addison to me. Oh, it'll be coverage. On my podcast, I was like, he feels like a small version of T. Higgins.

T. Higgins is probably the best two in the league? Yeah. Is Jordan Addison the best two in the league? He's excellent. I mean, that guy catches everything. I mean, it's interesting because they double Jefferson. People roll coverage over, and yesterday, Nailer was widely. Nailor, yeah.

Because you can't, I mean, it's just. And Hawkinson's an elite tight end. Like, they got a great roster. You sure about 50 mil for Sammy Donald? You sure? Well, I'm just saying, if Daniel Jones, several years ago got 41. That was dumb money, and it cost them a lot, called people jobs. But he's not 41, unless they franchise tagging.

But I'm saying on the market in a weak quarterback draft class, what's the number? Let me just, the counter. Kevin O'Connell can work magic with anybody at quarterback, right? Remember the pastronaut Josh Dobbs? Nick Mullins look good. Your cousins put up huge numbers. So if you can get 90% of Sam Darnold from J.J. McCarthy next year, how good can this roster be? I mean, how stacked will they be?

They can afford everybody. I think it's a fascinating dilemma. It's like the best problem to have is, you know, I pay a lot in taxes. Well, that means you probably make a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, but I'll say this. In that division, I want guarantees. because Detroit's good and Green Bay is good.

I want guarantees. Donald, I'm guaranteed if he comes back, will be very good. Okay. J.J. McCarthy off two surgeries could be. I don't want any could-bees if I have to pay the Packers and the Lions four times a year. Very valid. I would argue, and I'm a Sam-Darnell guy, I loved when the Jets drafted him. This season is an outlier for him.

Okay. Significant. I'm not denying it. We look at his history. But here's what's not an outlier. Addison's not going to. anywhere. Naylor's not going anywhere. Jefferson's not going anywhere. They bring their great left tackle back in Kevin O'Connell. So the components around him, it's not like this

is a year where they've got to move off receivers. A lot of their offensive talent outside of the running back is young. To go back to the Brock Purdy comparison, Brock Purdy, I think was third in the MVP last year. I think it was Lamar Dak Brock. Sam Darnold's probably going to be third or four this year. And everybody's going to say Vikings next year are the team to watch. And Ken Darnold do it again. Purdy couldn't quite. Everybody got hurt. We'll see with the Vikings, but they are a fascinating story. Colin, next up,

yep, it's time. It's time, Rahim Morris. You're going to have to get asked about it. What a brutal loss from the Alkins last night. I saw one of those chances to make the playoff metric went from 79% to 15 with the loss. Brutal. Late in the fourth quarter,

scored tied Atlanta driving. Rahim Morris failed to call a timeout. He had two in his pocket. Yep. They forced a play incomplete. They settled for a 56-yard field goal. When the kid kicked it, I was like, yes, Falcons are going to win. It's over. And it was like, what, six-yard short? It wasn't close. It was just brutal. So Rahim Morris was grilled about it. And listen, I'll say this, he owned it. Probably could have. I thought we can get to the line of scrimmage with our operations,

get him there without going on the fast on our ball, trying to save that timeout. In hindsight, could have been a good decision or a better decision to take that time out. But I wanted to have the opportunity to move up there. So like, you know, I was second-guess those things. You can always second guess those motives. You can always go back and look at him so you can get it snapped a little bit quicker. Yeah. At least he owned it. He screwed up badly.

They're not going to the playoffs, Collins. Did you see the line for Saints at Bucks? It's like 13 and a half. Tampa's favorite. The bucks have you know what's crazy about this league? The Giants and the Raiders I mean, there is no tanking in this league.

What do you mean? There's like 19s with like four weeks. I know, but it's like the Giants and the Raiders could have played backups. Raiders played their best game of the year, and the Giants may have played their first or second best game of the year. This is what you know about the NFL. You cannot ask coaches and players, hey, take the foot off the pedal. Unless you make guys, what, inactive?

Yeah, inactive for the game. Regarding the Falcons, this is the only division winner you missed, right? No, no, no, no. So I got the AFC all right. Yeah. And the NFC, I got the Eagles right and the Rams right. I had the Packers beating the Lions Lion's second and I got this wrong

I had Tampa in second Nobody had Tampa Bay winning this team Everything was lined up for the Falcons here Falcons beat Tampa twice So I thought they matched up better and they did But they kind of waited Had they played Pennix earlier Maybe week

You know when he started When Kirk Cousin started to dip badly They kind of stayed with him for three weekends And when you watch Panics you're like Yeah, Panics is the better quarterback right now. But I do think because they paid Kirk money, Arthur Blank, sitting there thinking, guys, I want to squeeze every bound of the juice out of this paycheck. Listen, hindsight is all that fun stuff.

But there's some guys in that front office who talked Arthur Blank out of Belichick. Remember, Arthur Blank was interested in Belichick. And there are some people who talked Arthur Blank into Kirk Cousins. All right. This has been a massive letdown for the Atlanta. Let's see it. Let's hear it. Well, Belichick wants personnel control, and maybe that was fine in New England because he had all the equity.

But Bill's not good at that. Well, wait a minute. I can tell you right now he would not have gone for Kirk Cousins. That would not have happened, not off an Achilles. So continue. I just think in hindsight, well, you got a hire Bill. Nobody wanted a hire Bill. It wasn't an Atlanta issue.

He didn't get an – he got one interview. That was a little surprising. Okay, so it's not lame. And I'll go back to this. It was Bill's unwillingness to get out of the personnel space. If Bill would have just said, I don't, I'll just coach. I think you would have had multiple offers. But Bill, I mean, the record's clear.

His last seven drafts, there's way more misses than hits. They're one of the weakest rosters. They are the weakest roster in the league. Giants have more good players. Neighbors is a star player. They've got defensive linemen. There are players for the Giants. Andrew Thomas left tackle.

the Patriots have the least talent in the league, and that's on Bill. I think he's a legend, but it's guys like Andy Reid don't want personnel responsibility. Guys like Peyton, Sean Peyton likes it, and Bill likes it. So instead of listening to and taking a chance on a guy who maybe struggled at the end in New England in Belichick, who has how many rings, I think 37 Super Bowl rings, versus the Atlanta guys. That brain trust has won nothing, Colin, and now they're missing the playoffs. Now, I don't know if he's going to run off the GM or whatever, but this is embarrassing.

Okay, you go big with Kirk Cousins. Their win total was high. Colin, this is in every way, shape, or form. Here's the good news. You got a star back, a star receiver, a star quarterback, and a star defensive tackle. There are worst situations in the NFL, and you're in a wonky weak division.

Well, I mean, you... Glass hat full common. Drake London. Drake London. Robinson. Go ahead. Try to name Panics. Jared.

You've got good players. How he drops for Kyle Pitts this season? He did catch the game time. He did catchdown. He's fantastic. Who? Drake London? Yeah, he's good.

I like him. I'm wondering where he went to school. USC? I liked him coming out. People were like, no, no, no. Now this final story, Colin, it's people are worked up about this. College football.

My man, Cam Ward, played in the first half of something called the Pop Tarts Bowl. He set the Division I record for the most career touchdown passes and then sat out the second half in Miami ended up losing 42-41 to Iowa State.

Cammore did not meet the media after the game. Mario Crystal Ball provided no insight saying the decision was made in private and they'll keep it private. And there are pockets of gibronies on the internet. Very worked up. How could he quit on his

team at halftime? This will have zero effect on his draft status. Remember, second tier bowl games, literally nobody cares in the NFL. Nobody cares. Now, I would have rather he not played it all than pull himself out. Just don't play. I don't have a problem with it.

I don't want him to get hurt. He wants him to get the record. You got a lot of guys who like records. Sequin Barclay. No, I got a word. Again, do they like records? I would have just said, just sit it out. I don't have a, I've been defending college players that set out of bowl games from

day one. Remember Leonard Fernette did? Defended him. Christian McCaffrey did, defend him. I defend guys, if you're in a second tier bowl, And you've been a great college player. Don't play. I don't love coming out, but just no, it has zero effect.

No NFL executive cares. Now, what about the dopes online who are like, hey, what about the 49ers linebacker who quit? This is the same thing. No, it's not. Colin, I can't deal with these people. They just don't understand logic or anything. No, it's not the same thing. This is a second-tier, meaningless.

It might as well be an exhibition. Exhibition. Thank you. except for the USC win. That's a real ball. Oh, yeah, I forgot. They said like, Miller Moss was cooking last year in an exhibition.

He's the man, he's the man. He's now transferred to Louisville. Beat 8 and 4 LSU and 8 and 4 Texas A&M. He did have some good dubs early. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News.

Michael Urban is joining us in the last hour of the show. It's, boy, the next few days. Those college games. Oh, man, are they good? The other thing is, if you're like a college football fan, the truth of the matter is, is everybody's looking for traits. Cam Ward has a really good arm. He's a really good athlete.

He's stout and physical. He's going to go in the top five picks. It's not like he's a bad guy. It's just, you know, people will say it's kind of selfish. Again, it's not perfect. If you need a quarterback in the NFL, you're not saying, you know, I really liked him. But, you know, in the Pop-Tart Bowl, it can. came out at half. I don't know. Let's just go with our backup. Zero effect. NFL and college football

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So, you know, one of the big stories over the weekend is the Chargers rolled the dice and said, we're going to pay $15 million a year and get Jim Harbaugh. And I thought they'd win 10 or 11 games. I wasn't sure if they were going to be a playoff team. I don't think I had them in the playoffs. I thought they were going to be really, really good because I think Harbaugh's magical. But Matt Hasselbeck earlier on sort of, you know, they need another running back, another tight end, another wide receiver.

you know, you cross your fingers on J.K. Dobbins' health. It's Ladd-McConkey, J.K. Dobbins, and, you know, cross your fingers. But here's Hasselback on Herbert, trying to push the chargers to the next level. The class of the AFC, there's a separation line when you talk about Kansas City and you talk about Baltimore and you talk about Buffalo. But the reason I believe that's in that separation is the quarterback. And so at some point, I don't know if it's this year, at some point, Justin Herbert is going to have. have to kind of like morph into yes the harball way of doing things but also kind of getting in that that legit like on the podium of the upper echelon guys in the afc is he top five yeah no doubt is he

on the podium i don't think you can put him on the podium yet with those other guys i mentioned so the five best quarterbacks to me uh and i think they've kind of separated they're often bigger stronger don't get hurt as much more productive if you look at what herbert house has done this year in terms of efficiency. It's up there with Brady and Rogers. So I think in no particular order, although most of us put Mahomes one. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. And I've said this before.

Any one time in football my entire life, there's usually four or five quarterbacks that just are different. I mean, Allen's 6-6-250. Burrow may be the most accurate thrower of the football ever. Herbert 6-5-2-30 and a 4-2 college kid with a huge arm. Mahalms, best arm talent maybe ever, and Lamar Jackson is the greatest athlete, arguably, to ever play the position. So now I think there's another group of quarterbacks. Jaden Daniels looks like, wow, Jalen Hertz, there are times.

C.J. Stroud's falling off. Jared Goff is the best pure pocket guy, arguably. I just think if you're a football fan, you have to look at the quarter. I'm watching that game last night, and I'm thinking, thinking, I get Michael Pennix for a decade and Jane Daniels for a decade. How good is that? And then you're getting the rebirth of Darnold and Baker Mayfield. And then you get the stars on top of that.

Joe Burrow is the one great quarterback that, as of this morning, the one great elite quarterback that is not in the playoffs. And I've said before, this is not picking on it. And we have a Bengals fan on the staff here. If you look at those five great quarterbacks, four of them have support. And I'm not like fire Zach Taylor guy. I think he's fine. I don't love his clock management.

J. Mack wishes he was on the next train out of Cincinnati. I think he's fine. I think all coaches outside of Belichick struggle with clock management. Even Andy Reid before he got Mahomes, people used to complain about that. But the defense is bad, non-existent run game. They can only win by shootout. The offensive line protection. Some of that, Burrell likes to hold the ball into the last second.

Like some of that is Darnold's the same way. but here's Burrow after the win over Denver. They almost gave it away. Here's Burrow. I think we're the best offense in the league. You know, we've had our moments, just like every offense does, where, you know, you stall out a little bit. But, you know, we've been so consistent this whole year

and guys stepping up in big spots and making big plays for us and guys go down. Somebody else has to step up and make plays. We've just consistently done that. Yeah, it's, okay, let me give a, not all young quarterbacks have support. Keep your eye on Drake May in New England. He's a really good player. They got nothing to work with.

They got shelled by the Chargers. He's got a first-time coach, Gerard Mayo, who when they hired him, I thought it felt too old school. It felt way too rear-view mirror for me. I think Drake May is really good. Now, if you go to the draft order, J. Mack and I have gone back and forth on this. If you're New England, I mean, people are speculating. You could draft Shedur Sanders, trade Drake May, keep Drake May.

He's good. They don't have enough elite athleticism. Gonzalez, the corner is really good, but Belichick gave Jacobi Myers away. I didn't get that. I don't, I mean, you tell me, I would move down, I think they need a tight end, two receivers, another back.

I think they need six. more top first, second round guys. Unfortunately, it's not a great draft. I would trade down if I was New England because somebody's going to go for Shadour. The closer you get to a draft, all these GMs and owners, you know how it works.

The closer you get to the draft, all the quarterbacks warts disappear. I'm New England. I get out of the number one spot. What say you? So, yeah, ideally you would be able to trade down. But Colin, we talk about it on this show during the season, how much the trenches matter.

Remember when the lions went Penaise Sewell over, was it Jamar Chase? Yeah. And everybody freaked out. It's kind of worked out good for the Detroit Lions. Their offensive line is unbelievable. We need to remember, like, Travis Hunter is one of those shiny objects. He's going to run like a 4-4 at the Underware Olympics and Indy. Oh, my gosh, you've got to take Travis Hunter for, like, people will do that.

Let's just calm down and remember the trenches win in the NFL. There's only four to five players this year that are can't miss. I think Travis Hunter is going to be a really good NFL player. Well, it's a long process. We've got to go through some of these offensive linemen don't get the shine during college football. But I will add, Colin, when you look at the New England Patriots offensive line, I believe they have the most offensive line musical chairs this season with like 10 different starting. Yes.

That doesn't work. And Drake May's getting killed out. I think he had maybe two concussions. Well, when you have a young quarterback, the NFL is very simple in a weird way. get once you have the right coach, get the quarterback, number one, protect the quarterback number two, and then get guys who make the other quarterback uncomfortable. So right now, New England doesn't have either. They let Judon go so they don't have quarterback pursuers or quarterback protectors.

So to me, it is a good offensive tackle draft. There's like three or four. It's not sexy, but it wins. Yeah. That's how you build in the NFL. I think you could trade down to four or five and get Kelvin Bank. from Texas. He's good. He's not a number one. He's probably not a number two,

three, but if you got him at six or seven or five, and then you've got your left tackle, you've got your quarterback, and people are speculating. I mean, in Boston, I was reading the Boston papers yesterday and all the online stuff. Oh, they want, they want Vrabel and McDaniels, period. That would be a home run. I will say,

you know, looking at what Herbert's doing with the Chargers' weapons, like, if you name the guys, you're like, who's, he's throwing a, guys you don't know. like if you can do that with a great offensive line, that's the move for Drake May. Yes, he doesn't have great weapons, but Hunter Henry's okay. He's not worse than the Chargers tight ends, disilly, is it? No.

Good stuff. I think Patriots have something with Drake Bay, man. I think you're right. He's good. Drake May or Bo Nix? Well, his comp was Justin Herbert, but less polished, and that's what I see. That's what I see. Hour three, Michael Urban.

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