The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Rams, Packers

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

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Joel Klapp, five minutes, voice of college football. You know, it is interesting. I was watching this weekend, college football. And in the NFL, you get pre-season in those scrimmages, so by week one and two, you should have your act together. So Oregon had a new. new coach, new staff, introduced to all these new players. New quarterback.

New quarterback. No preseason. They face Georgia. They get crushed. Then, if you watch Oregon every week since then, you're like, oh, they're really good. I mean, they steamrolled a good UCLA team with a bunch of really good players. And so in the NFL, you know, I think two or three games in, you should kind of, I know what you are. But there's an argument to be made that Oregon had all new players, new players,

quarterback. You don't have a preseason in college. They're 18-year-old kids. And they went to the South to face Kirby Smart, who's had that baby rolling for six, seven years or whatever, however long he's been there. But if you look at what Dan Lenning's doing at Oregon, and you look at their recruiting the last five years, which has been stupendous with Mario Cristobal and now this guy, it's like, it's almost like you should give Oregon a mulligan. I think it's fair to just say, okay, by the way, they open with Georgia in the South. the national champ. Yeah.

So it is one of those where a lot of times in college football, it'd be different. If Harbaugh went down to face Georgia, he's got that whole system in, and he's been rolling, and they got blown out. Then I would really hold it against Michigan. But I don't really hold it against Oregon. I keep watching them, and I'm like, good God, did they look unbelievable against UC? They looked like it absolutely. I don't think anybody in the country, including Georgia, would have gone to Eugene and done that.

They crushed them. I think it kind of points to the gap in college football, Georgia, Ohio State. They're so far ahead of the next group. It's almost like the NFL this year, where there's chiefs, bills, eagles, and then I think a big drop-off. College football and NFL sort of mirroring one another this season. All right, I want to go to this. When the Niners went and acquired Christian McCaffrey, the Internet was obsessed with, oh, they didn't get good value. and I'm like, sometimes you go buy a Tesla and you want a Tesla, you're not going to get great value.

Do you want it? And not everything, you know, if you want to buy a house on the water in Rhode Island, it's going to be really expensive. Go to Rhode Island. Go to the beaches of Rhode Island. The houses are really expensive. It's one of the most beautiful places in the country. That was there this summer. Yeah, it probably costs a fortune.

Nice stuff costs money. Christian McCaffrey's really good. And I said, you can always tell if you made a good move by how you're, rival reacts to it. I said, I guarantee you the Rams went, oh, crap. Kyle Shanahan got another weapon. Well, sure enough, Sean McVeigh was asked, what's your first reaction to the move? No, you thought, oh, you know, they get another great player, you know, but I think he's a

phenomenal player. Obviously, we saw him recently. I've always had respect for his game and the versatility. So, you know, I think that's your first inclination. And then you have, you know, you know, what a great job Kyle and his staff do of maximizing and utilizing versatile offensive weapons. So that was my first reaction. And then, you know, as a competitor, you say, hey, you know, they've got them. We've got to be able to move forward accordingly.

And just so happens that they're on the schedule this week. Yes. So as we predicted, you know it's a good move when Sean McVego's, oh, oh, crap. They got a really good piece. Can't be paralyzed by value. Sometimes nice stuff costs money and you're not getting a break on it. That's just the way it is. Not everything's a value proposition.

So the Niners essentially have been told for four years. They have the best roster in the NFL and they got nothing to show for it. So they're getting Jimmy G. another piece. Now I know what Nick Wright said and what you're saying. Oh, Jimmy G. needs another piece. Well, that's funny because when Tom Brady went to Tampa and they already had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.

What did Brady say? I want Gronk and A-B. Stafford already had Cooper, Cup, Van Jefferson, Whitworth, Sean McVeigh. We're going to get him OBJ. And Stefan, uh, uh,

Josh Allen's great. I mean, Josh Allen's got Dawson Knox at Tide-in and I don't know. I think Stefan Diggs is pretty good. My eyes tell me that. Who's leading on the sweepstakes to get OBJ Buffalo.

Folks, this isn't a Jimmy G thing. It is a, when you get close in a business to the bag, you go all in. When you get close in pro sports, it's like the Warriors. I mean, when you start getting close on stuff, you don't peel back. Like everybody's like, oh, move off Draymon.

It's like timeout. You have a chance to win back to backs again. Don't move off him. Move in. to him and get another one. Sign Wiggins to an extension. Signed Draymond. These championship runs, they dry it really fast.

We've been thinking for three years, the Niners in Buffalo are going to win titles. Kansas City's got one. Brady's got another. Stafford's got another. By the way, Brady who got Gronk and AB got one. Stafford got OBJ. He got one. Buffalo's looking at that.

And San Francisco's looking at that and says, who gives a rip about value in the draft. We want pieces. We're like an inch from the goal line. with that the voice of college football at fox joel clats joining us today great to have him in so i just threw something how you doing i'm doing great i just threw some i'm with you by the way yeah that take was excellent it was absolutely excellent one championship makes everything worth it right it's like oh we we we mortgaged five years of our fine you win a championship and it's worth it also i have this belief in life smart people figure stuff out okay yeah i like that you'll

you'll find your way back. Like Pete Carroll's like, all right, we had Russell Wilson, we didn't love him, we traded him, we got a bunch of draft picks. We hit on five of them.

Gino's pretty good. Problem solved. Now I'll throw this at you. So in the NFL in college, here's the big difference. The players are younger in college. So Oregon, I watched them this weekend.

Smart take. Oregon brings in a new quarterback, a new coach, all new pieces. I'm sorry. That was, that was below the show. no preseason.

They go to the South to face the national champions and get boat race. Yes. I would punish Michigan, Clemson, Ohio State, if they went down there and did that. But I've watched Oregon almost every week. Better, better, better, better. I am giving Oregon a mulligan on that game. Well, I don't know if you can give a full mulligan. How about half a mulligan.

Half a mulligan. And I think it depends on what happens in the SEC. and that's just kind of the nature of a four-team playoff. Like, for instance, let's say for some reason, Tennessee beats Georgia or Alabama and the SEC championship beats Georgia, now Oregon's got a problem on their hands, right? Because then you're going to be matched up

against the team that blew your doors off. And they're not going to win that argument. But what you're saying is partially correct. And I think it's part of the cruelty of the sport. And it's not the sport in general of football. It's college football. cruelty of those important one-game pictures that we all tend to rely on in order to make these subjective opinions down the road. This sport is still about, and in particular with

young people, as you so astutely said in college, it's about getting better and developing. And I don't know if there is a team in America that has gotten better from week one until now than Oregon. And that is a huge, huge feather in the cap for Dan Lanning and his first year as a head coach. He's done a marvelous job. And Oregon has out-recuted everybody west of the Rockies for the last five, six years. Yeah. And it's going to be more difficult with Lincoln in here. But Mario Cristobal was a big part of that. But right now, that's the most talented four or five-star roster on the West Coast. In particular, Colin, on the offensive line. And that's really where they won the game. And I will say, I will also say this. Like,

everything went right for them. You know, they played one of those games. You get one of those days. It's a perfect day. Bow-Nicks plays his, his perfect game. game, you steal a possession with the onside kick. I still think UCLA is pretty good. I still think UCLA, they didn't get absolutely blown out. They kept coming back. They had to settle for field goals, which is why you see the margin where it's at. But I will say this about Oregon, and I think that it gets lost because of how far it is up there in the Pacific Northwest. And it's not 85,000 or 90 or 100,000. That's one of the great home field advantages in all of college football. And those fans, I tell you,

you what? Good on you. You guys were phenomenal on Saturday and that environment looked great. Yeah, I don't buy into this. It was one of those everything's right days. I think that's Oregon is. How was it not that they played their best game? Everything went right for them. What went wrong, Colin? Well, I had a perfect day yesterday. You know what I called it? Tuesday. Sometimes I'm so obnoxious, I bother me. Okay. That's amazing. That was great. I loved it. All right. So I have, when I'm into something, I'm into something. Sure, I get it.

And I'll support you to the end. Took a lot of shots on Harbaugh. Now Uncle Collins walking around, a little smug. A little. Listen, I'm with you, by the way. I'm with you on this one. Uncle Colin supported Brian Kelly, even his cringiness. Because college football is about selling stuff.

That's true. You got to sell that I love the South. I am part of you. Fight song, I know it. You're memorize it on the private jet down to the press conference. You're memorizing that fight song. As if you've known it for 30 years, I'm part of you. Give me some, some, uh, some, uh, some, uh, right, right, right.

Yes. I watched them this weekend. Oh, they've gotten better, man. They've gotten better. They've gotten better. Played Alabama today, would it be close? I think it would be. Uh, it might.

And by the way, the Bama's going to have to go there next week and it's going to be a night game. So, I mean, listen, I still think Bama is the better team. I think we would all say that. now Alabama struggles on the road and we've seen that a couple of times this year and then last year as well. I thought Daniels played great. I thought he did a great job. And this is one of the things. I want to go back to what I told you. We talked about Brian Kelly earlier in the year. Yes. And I remember what I said and I said, you know, he just needs to step back a little bit. Like get out of the limelight. Stop being the story. Right. And I said that he was, he was dangerously close to becoming, you know, out of

step and it's like perception is reality and recruiting and you don't want to be the cringy guy that dances weird right you're like you don't want to be the the butt of the joke well to his credit he kind of went stepped behind right and he just kind of went back into the into the back room and started getting better and now all the sudden what's what's coming to the forefront is his ability to coach and not his ability to entertain and he's a much better coach than he is entertainer yeah and And so now what you're seeing is that ability. And you and I both agree, and I've sat, I've sat right here on this couch and talk to you about how he was a really good coach at Notre Dame.

And one of the best coaches in college football. And they would just win and they were tough. And did they win the national championship? No, but they didn't have the players to go and compete with some of those other teams. That's why he took the job. And so he goes to LSU and guess what? He's still the same coach. So if he just steps back a little bit and he says, you know what, I'm probably not an

entertainer and maybe don't do the dance with the spinning camera and all that. be the butt of the joke. Guess what? I can still coach. And that's certainly what's coming to the forefront. Okay, so supported Harbaugh to the end. Support Brian Kelly to the end. I'm wobbling a little bit on Sark.

So a friend, I like Sark. Yeah. But I look at data. That's what I do on my weekends. A lot of you guys are out there having a good time. Head into data. Cowards at home, head into data. What did that data tell you?

Well, a friend of mine, who likes Sark. And I've been trying to convince him forever on Sark. He said, A, how come he always loses these crazy leads and these crazy games? I'd like to see some wins. And he said, the other thing was he hired a good defensive coordinator who had a great reputation. And now they don't play defense again. And I said, you're right.

And I said, Texas is a weird program. I love it. But it's a glamour program. It's not a bunch of grinders. It's five star 10. USC's got a little bit of the game. this. Pete Carroll changed it. USC is fun and glossy. I remember one time

they went to Boston College, there was a light drizzle and the USC players were like, what? Hold on. What's going on? There are these programs. Georgia is a tough program. They get Georgia kids. They always have, even when I don't like them, Georgia's always tough. Bama's

tough. Penn State, don't always love it. Texas and USC got a little glamour, and I watched them, and I'm like, okay, I've watched this program for 30, years. They figure the offense out all the time. Sure. Even with coaches they fire. Sure. What isn't it with defense in Texas?

Well, I think it's, it's conference related. Not many teams play great defense in that conference. I think Oklahoma State did a year ago, but part of that was Jim Knowles, who's now the coordinator at Ohio. Exactly. It's right. It's just one of those things. So I've done a lot of talking with defensive coaches in the Big 12. And one of the things that they say, you see that long pass right there. offensive play callers in the Big 12 are so much more willing to gamble. Yeah. They're more aggressive than any other conference, and it just puts a lot of pressure on defenses.

I'm not giving Texas defense a pass because they didn't tackle well, and that was one of the problems a year ago. But I would tell you that there are times when they are improving. It's one of the reasons they brought in Gary Patterson to be the special assistant to the head coach, so that he could try to help on the defense. side of the football. I think that they're trying to get better at the line of scrimmage. But remember, this is a year in which we're seeing TCU kind of run the conference. That's not a great defense, right? I mean, they're getting in shootouts. Oklahoma State's not a great defense.

Oklahoma has given up 40 points per game and four straight games. So it's conference. I think that there's some of that to it, right? Like, you get in these Big 12 matchups, and it's going to be a Hail Mary Fest to some degree, right? Like, they're going to throw haymakers, and I think there's part of that in it. I would disagree with people on this. Texas is really close. It's small things that you've got to fix at Texas, right? Like their three losses are by combined seven points. There's your data for you. Let's get into the data, Colin, right? Combine seven points. Quinn Ewers, that was basically his first road start in conference play, that's going to be difficult for a young quarterback. Do we really

think that Quinn Ewers is going to throw for 40% ongoing? No. Do we really think that Bejohn Robinson is going to fumble the ball in overtime like he did against Texas Tech? No. Do we really think that they're going to have a wild safety, non-safety call against Alabama? No, these are small things that Texas is almost there in terms of getting to the point where they can win consistently. I still think

this is going to be an 8-9 win team, maybe even 10-win if they run the table and win a bowl game. I still think that they're a really good team. And by the way, all the data bears that out. In the FBI, they're 6th in the country. And the Sagan ratings, they're 11th in the country. I'm not the only one. Yeah. And the Uncle Colin ratings, they're 24th.

That's what I see. Win these damn close games. That's what I see. I don't disagree with that. Okay. I got a new ratings out there. That's what I do on week. The Uncle Colin ratings.

I love it. So a lot of times in life, you see something, and it's not the truth. Mike Evans, he's getting an autograph for an official in a tunnel, Tampa Bay. And we find the real story. Sure. He was giving him a number to a friend of golf coach. So I've said this through the years. when I watch an SEC team, a Big 12 team, or even a Pact 12 team, come out of their conference,

I have a sense of who they are. Sure. I would say that even in the Big Ten as well. That's my pushback. Ohio State, until this year, maybe the end of last year with Michigan, recruits at such a different level than the conference. I mean, Oregon recruits well, but so does USC. Yeah.

Oklahoma recruits well. So does Texas. that Ohio State can come out of their conference. And I'm like, and then I see them going to bowl games and I'm like, yeah, that's Purdue. Nothing against Purdue. That's Minnesota. So this is why I think the elevation of Michigan, Buckeye fans would never admit it, is great. Because I think when they play Michigan, that's the first time in a decade.

I feel like, oh, Michigan can play with Alabama now. Right. Michigan can play with Georgia. But I will say this with Ohio State. A prime example, in the history of the NFL, they've never had one great quarterback. Why? Because that's not the real world, having 32 feet of separation from Illinois's corner. And I do worry to this point, is Ohio State great or are they really good and beaten up on nonsense?

Yeah, I think that that's an interesting question. I think you can pose the same question about Clemson right now. I do not buy that at all. Well, well, then you're wrong. You like Clemson. No, I said you can say the same about Clemson. I don't know how good Clemson is. I don't think they are. They can't throw the ball.

Well, that's the problem, right? And so I thought you were suggesting you don't know how good Ohio State is. They're better than Clemson, no question. I agree with you. But do we get fooled with Ohio State? Maybe. And I'm not sure. And by the way, I was talking with a couple of the scouts.

And I don't want to, you know, throw their names out. But we were chatting on the sideline before the game last week. week, Ohio State and Iowa. And we were talking about, you know, Marvin Harrison Jr. for instance. Boy, is he going. He's going to be good. By the way, during the broadcast, I said and still believe I think he's going to be the best receiver in the world in 2006 or 227. He's an incredible player. Ameca, Abuka, same thing. You know, they've got some offensive linemen in there. The tackles are going to be NFL players everywhere. Stroud, NFL player, but really tough evaluation because of exactly what you're talking about.

Matt Leinert dealt with this, and I've talked to Matt about it. It's like, his supporting cast is so much better than the opposition. And the Big Ten. As a quarterback, it would be like, so it would be like, can you imagine if a NASCAR driver got to go out there and break all the rules with the car and make it just like faster, stronger, you know, no restrictor plate and then just go race the race? How good is it? How good do you know, is the driver really good or is the car really good?

Right. And I think that there's some of that with Ohio. State. So I'm not disagreeing with you. Having said that, though, they are doing what they should do, and Stroud is doing what he should do if you are that much better than your competition, which is thoroughly dominate them. I was mixed on that performance from Ohio State over Iowa this last week. Choppy. No one would say they played even well, even average to a certain extent. They settled for too many field goals. They turned the ball over. They couldn't run the ball. There were a lot of warts on that game, right? and then you look up and it's 54 to 10.

So it's like, well, isn't that kind of scary if they don't even have to play close to their best and they can beat Iowa 54 to 10? I mean, I think that that's kind of scary, all in the same breath. So all of those things are still true. I think that Michigan and the elevation of that program or the last couple of years I think it's going to help Penn State, or excuse me, Ohio State during the course of the end of this year. I'm with you. It's a tough one, but I do think that this year, those two programs are very, very good, very good. And I don't know about Clemson.

Clemson's the only team right now in the top 10 that has had to yank their starting quarterback in order to come back and win a game at home. Okay. Clats top 10. So I forget the order. I think you have the top five right. Okay. I think you're...

And Clemson's not in there. For those of you, you know. I think Oregon beats Clemson soundly. Probably. Soundly. I don't know if Utah does. So I don't have a problem with this. So I want to segue to this.

And by the way, for our radio listeners, he's got Ohio State, Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan, Bama top five. Totally agree. He's got Oregon eight. I think I'd put Oregon six. Okay. Okay. And I think Oregon can play with all these guys. And don't tell me Ohio State's too good because I saw him go to Columbus last year and punch in the forehead.

Sure. So they can play. And I think Oregon's better this year. All right. So a lot of times I'll be walking throughout the streets of rural America. And I will randomly bump into journalists. Will you? All the time.

I'll be walking in coffee shops in small town America. Yeah, all the time? Yeah, all the time. A couple days a week. And the journalists will come up to me and say. Like what you, give me an example of one of these small towns. Enid, Oklahoma. I was there last week.

So I'm in these small towns and I'm talking to America. and a journalist will come up to me and he'll say, hey, I'm a journalist. You set the bar for journalism. This happens all the time to me. So I'm going to propose something and this is journalism and nothing more. And I strongly believe this. I strongly believe this. Go ahead.

What do you got? USC is not losing the rest of this year. They're going to face Utah again. They've got a break. They're going to face Utah again. USC will not lose the rest of the year. I can't do that. Why?

I think UCLA is still better than USC. Would your TV not work Saturday? Oh, it works. It worked totally fine, by the way. That was still a pretty good UCLA team. Again, everything went right for Oregon in an unbelievable environment, and there they are. They're still right there. What is this?

Everything went right for it? What do you mean? How do you say it didn't go right? Bo Nix played the best game he's played in, what, three years? Does Bo Nix get no credit for it? Well, I'm just saying everything went right. I give him credit. Everything went right.

Everything you intended to do happened. And you get an onside kick. force the field goals, the environment is incredible. I mean, like, so yes, I think Oregon's really good. I also still think UCLA is really good. UCLA is kind of kryptonite for USC because of their toughness in their run game. Zach Charbonnet is big and physical, and I don't know if UCLA, or excuse me, USC is going to be able to handle that. That's an interesting theory. I call everything going right Tuesday. You call it the greatest performance in Bowenix's history. But if you watch that game. Well, if it's Tuesday, then they're going to do it again this week and then next week and then the week

after. And by the way, their history at Cal is not great. I don't think Oregon covers this week. They're favored by 18 at a place that they lost in 2020. Last year, they only won by seven against Cal. And what, three years ago, it was 17-7. I think Oregon might be in for a dog fight this week because everything went right last week and they're going to have a letdown. You got that, Jason? I want to talk about a hooker. I'm not going where you think. Wait, time out. What are you guys saying? I was going to run off the set. You guys, your mind are in the gutter. I'm in small town America, in Oklahoma, talking to the real people. paper. Where was this journalist? Where did he work?

We didn't get into that. Oh, I'm interesting. So I want to talk about Hendon Hooker. Oh. Okay. So this is crazy. First of all, he's big. Is that, that's crazy? He's 25. That's crazy. I think he's a professor at the university. Isn't he turning 25, like right after the national championship game? I don't know. I mean, I know guys that are still in college at 34. Well, I mean, you set the bar for journalism, so let's set it, right? Right after the national championship game. What am I to make of this quarterback who before the season, nobody had him on a top first round quarterback. What do I make of Hendon Hooker? Well, so do you want like a draft evaluation?

Well, I'm just saying when you see him, this is what you do for a living, it's very rare. He's impressive. He's very impressive. He is a late riser in the vein of a late Baker Mayfield in his career, a Joe Burrow in his career, a Mack Jones in his career. We're late in their career after a lot of reps, you're all of a sudden like, wait, hold on a second. this is clearly a first round draft pick at the quarterback position. He throws the ball beautifully. He's got a command of the offense that has grown over the course of time.

And I think this week is actually one of those kind of benchmark weeks. So they're going to face Kentucky this week. Oh, watch out. And you go back to last year, and Kentucky's defense was pretty good, right? And Kentucky and Mark Stoops has done a nice job. And that was the first time that Hendon Hooker threw for 300 yards was against Kentucky and that good defense a year ago. And since then, he's thrown first.

300, four different times, and they're nine and two as a program. That was a benchmark game that went over Kentucky and they're facing them again this week. What I make for this guy is that he has put himself clearly on the level with C.J. Stroud as a Heisman frontrunner at this point. He's put himself in position where if they win next week, he's going to walk with the Heisman trophy because of the big wins that they would have in the regular season. And he's playing himself into the – I said it last week to the top 10 of the NFL drafts. He makes good decisions. He throws the ball on time. It's on target, and he's got a really, really good disposition, too. He's calm. He makes quick decisions. I like what I see from him. You can get rattled after a

host throws a curveball at it. That's right. Like when, if someone comes up to him and it was like, I want to talk about a hooker, he'd just be like, you got rattled for a second. I mean, I did. I did get rattled. Okay. He's got a podcast. It's actually pretty good. Not that I'm discouraged with that. It's a little bit of a surprise that it's good. Clat every Saturday does the big noon kickoff, Ohio State at Penn State. Three times a week he does this podcast. Joel does unfiltered thoughts. It's really good. Are you giving the public that little list thing you do and you give to me? Do you give them that yet? No. Boy, I wish you would. That's really good. Clat goes out here. When I'm buried in data, he's out having a good time, but he comes back on the flight from his game

and he does this chart of the top 20. You should sell that. That's a newsletter. You should sell that thing. I love that thing. That's a good idea. I'd make it a newsletter. Why don't you go to the bosses and create a website or something? Let's do it. You hear that? Management? Heading up to the fifth floor. It is 10.30. I've been in a few of those meetings. Those go great.

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and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and your podcast. at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

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I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jek. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill,

waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Fall Classic starts this Friday on Fox and Fox Bet Super 6 is giving everyone a chance to win $25,000 of Big Poppy's money during the game. Download the Super 6 app on your phone and enter your six picks in any World Series contest

for a chance to win. Fox Bet Super 6 has given away almost $8 million to over 80,000 winners, and there are guaranteed winners every week. Mac with the news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. You know, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense, Colin. It just has not been explosive this year.

Can't run much. Really struggling, stuck in the mud, if you will. Last week, they were only able to put up three points against the lowly Panthers. Offensive coordinator Byron Lefich, he's under some heat. I read at Tampa Bay News article, whatever the newspaper is there, article saying, you know, we need to get rid of Well, Byron Lefwich saying they need to be very competitive.

People want to see points on the board. People want to see what we've been used to, what we've done since we've been here. And you're not beating nobody in this league scoring three points, right? Let's just be honest. You're not beating a soul, not a team in this league scoring three points. So we know we got to be better as an offense as a whole. That's true. I don't know what to...

No. Yeah. I don't know what to make in this game. Ravens Bucks. Well, I've told you before. I'm not betting the Ravens the rest of the year, but I like them. You like them to win this game? Yes, I like the Ravens institutionally.

There's so much I like. I've watched them control the Giants and lose. I've watched them control a lot of Cincinnati win, but should have won by more. They were up 21 in the fourth quarter against Miami. Yeah, I've watched this team control virtually every team they've played. Only Philadelphia has been ahead by 10 points or more in every game. So on paper, the first three quarters looked like Buffalo and Kansas City and Philly, and they can't close it out. So I like them to win.

I think Baltimore is really good. You always talk about teams getting humiliated and bouncing back. Listen, what do you think the film room was like for Tampa? The Tampa defense got dumped trucked by Carolina after Carolina traded McCaffrey. It's like Foreman, whoever that is. I would suspect they play very... Very well. I mean, so you wonder, Lamar Jackson running against that team.

Lamar's not able to really throw Bateman's injury. Mark Andrews on the injury report this week. I don't know what to do with this game. It might be the first game on Thursday. I'm not going to bet for a while. Next up, the Denver Broncos and your guy, Russell Wilson. Uh-oh. They are in London preparing for a game against the Jaguars.

Now, Russell Wilson missed the last game against the Jets with a hammy, and he's doing everything he can to. get back on the field, maybe too much, Colin. This tweet just came across maybe two hours ago. During the eight-hour flight from Denver to London, Russell Wilson told the media he spent four

hours stretching and getting treatment on his hamstring. He said that included doing high knees up and down the aisle while his teammates slept. Do you doubt the four-hour workout on an airplane? Yeah, I doubt that.

There's no way he did that, Colin. Come on. This is Mr. Unlimited doing way too much. Like, we know you want to get back on the field, Russ. Don't make everybody else look bad because you're working out for four hours on a flight. Isn't this the guy who said during rehab he was like 21 hours around the clock he was working out? Well, maybe he considers stretching working out. I mean, stretching is working.

You work out. I know you work out hard. 45 minutes a day. Right. How much do you stretch after you work out? Not much. About three minutes. Can you imagine stretching for four hours?

Just let it sink in, Colin. So you are doubting the veracity. I'm a big Russell Wilson fan. Not as big as you. You know, people tell me I look a little like Russell Wilson. I've kind of embraced that. I like him. This is just crossing the line a little bit.

Like, if your teammates read this, what's the reaction? A little cringy. I mean, think about it. If you're out there saying, I only watch football, I only looked at the numbers all weekend. I did nothing. It's like, come on, dude. You have some kind of life. You did other stuff, Colin.

Can I throw a sidebar into this? I'll let it go. Go ahead. Have you ever gone to Sierra, his wife's Twitter account? I've gone to her Instagram page. I could be the best-looking human being. No, in the world. There's 8 billion people. No, I mean, I went to it.

I'm not weird. You're not weird. You went to a pop stars in Twitter account. There was a Russell story out there. They were in red in Paris taking a picture. It was her birthday or his birthday or something. and so I stumbled into her Twitter account because he had put it up there. You just went down a rabbit hole of...

I just felt bad. I got off it quickly, but I'm just saying... Wow. Let's move on before you get in trouble with the wife. Finally, Lakers, of course, very little going right for them. They started the season, O' and 3 desperately need to turn things around. TB tonight. Yeah, big game against Denver. Anthony Davis claims the team is not getting down on themselves.

focused on earning their first win. Obviously, there's some sense of urgency. You don't want to dig yourself too big a hole. We've got to stay even keeled. We can't get rattled or flustered and things like that. Just like if we win 12 in a row. Yeah. We don't want to get too high.

We think all this adversity is going to be good for us. We're glad it's happening on October and not March and April, but we'll make shots continue to defend how we're going to defending and try to go on Wednesday and Friday and get the dump. Now, they've had a couple days off, Colin. They played Sunday that loss against Portland. Kind of a hypothetical, though. When we win 12 in a row,

in the West, that feels like a little bit of a hypothetical. With Russell Wilson doubtful for tonight, this does feel like a 40-minute game for LeBron and AD. You can't go down 0-4. You don't want to start 0-4. And no Russell Westbrook. Utah's tanking, aren't they 4-0? No, no, they're playing Denver.

No, I'm saying, but the West, I watched the Pelicans win. I watched the fourth quarter. Without Ingram and Zion, I know. They look pretty good. I watched the fourth quarter of that game. I'm like, holy moly. It's the first week.

Portland is 4-0, right? Damian Liller dropping 40-point games. Utah, 3-1. There's a lot to be said on the Lakers. I don't think we have time for you. Yeah, spend the whole show on it. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,

this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tontons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two.

Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett.

And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick you here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack,

so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So Aaron Rogers called out Matt LaFleur yesterday for the second time in a week.

The first time was a couple weeks ago. He said, we need to simplify the offense after a loss. And Matt LeFleur said, I don't even know what that means. And then he said yesterday, we're playing the wrong guys. We shouldn't be playing these guys. Got to start cutting reps, basically saying, you know, coaches aren't even playing the right guys. So on the Carton show this morning, New Morning Show, FS1, give it a listen, Craig Carton. Very funny, funny guy from New York. The show is in New York.

He's a New Yorker. He had Greg Jennings on, and Jennings didn't like taking this stuff public at all. But you can't just vent about everything that's wrong in the locker room on the field and not talk about your lack of production. I would not have a problem if he's calling out his teammates and he's been playing lights out. But he has not. We were talking as a staff this morning and I said they drafted Jordan Love for a reason. If Jordan Love could play a lick, they would have moved off Aaron.

I believe if they had a backup as good as Teddy Bridgewater, they would move off Aaron. You say, well, Aaron's still great. Brett Farve had a lot in the tank when he left Green Bay. They just got tired of him. Do you remember Aaron? Do you remember? But they had a backup plan. They had Aaron from Cal, right?

Sitting on the bench. They don't have a backup plan. If Jordan Love was as good as Teddy Bridgewater, they would move on, save $30 million, go buy some players, and then maybe draft another quarterback. If he was as good as Gino Smith. But Jordan Love can't play. It looks like can't play at all.

You know, three years in, can't play. a lick. They're tired of it. Brett Farve left Green Bay. I've always said this. When you move off a Peyton Manning, when you move off a Brett Farver and Aaron Rogers, they're going to have, you know, you get into a divorce, guess what, Brady's still got something in the tank. So Brett Farve's last couple years in the NFL, he was 21 and 11, completed 67% of his throws, 2 to 1 touchdown pass interception ratio, pass-a-rating mid-90s, reach an NFL championship game. Farve still had a lot left in the tank. I think Aaron's got a couple of great years if you moved off to him after the year.

I think they would. Do you think Lefleur this morning is not texting the front office saying, the hell's going on here? He's calling me out now. They are done with it. They are over it. But they have no backup plan. And Aaron knows it.

It's why he soaked him for 50 large. It's why he mentions retirement. It's a poke in the ribs to them. I control you. but I mean it is one of those things where I think they're I think they're just done with it just listening to that little rant it hit me it this had not dawned upon me yet huh is Aaron Rogers trying to get them to trade him remember there was all that speculation about Denver does he want out no and did not stay in Denver no or Green Bay but this is

Farrv Farrv kept talking about retirement farf was still good People thought he was declining. He really wasn't. He didn't have certain things he wanted. He didn't want to change the offense. They got tired of his stubbornness. And they moved because they had a plan. Aaron wasn't great his first year, six and ten.

But they saw the talent. Aaron now is really, really good. Is he a little bit declining? He doesn't have the things he wants. He's gotten a little stubborn. He's calling out people for the umpteenth time. They would move off tomorrow, but they've got nothing. And by the way, I guess what I said, if they had a Gino and they felt like for a year,

we can, we can, come on, Detroit, Chicago, you can compete in that division. Seattle's competing with Gino in that division. You know who Aaron Rogers would probably love to work with? Guy named Brian Daubb, who's kind of a quarterback whisper with Josh Allen. And, and like Brett Farb, he'd probably end up in an NFC championship. I don't doubt it for a second. But don't kid yourself here. They drafted Jordan Love and moved up for a reason.

it's a whiff. It happens all the time. But if you don't think they're having text chains between the guys upstairs, they hate this. They can't stand it, but they're trapped. They are trapped. I think if the backup was Teddy Bridgewater, they would just sit down and go, save $29 million, go by four good players. We'll be nine and eight. And we'll draft a quarterback who can play like an Alex Smith behind a gentleman, a smart guy,

a veteran who can play. who can win games. I think they're done with him. We should do us speculate. Where would Aaron Rogers land? A segment tomorrow, guys. Should we do that tomorrow? Start working on it. I got Giants is my pick. I got a new producer on the show.

I'm all for new segment. I wear all hats, baby. I can do anything. There's a new Bo Jackson book out. Jeff Perlman's here. He's got Laker takes. I can't wait. He's in studio. Live in L.A., it's The Hurt. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not. not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind,

podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tontons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. That was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me.

I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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