The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Reaction to LeBron

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Doug recaps an interesting week as Lebron James decided to post about him and his basketball program on his X account. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Mark Medina onto the show to talk about breaking news in the NBA, the Lakers and all of the other major headlines around the NBA. Plus, Doug reacts to Rob Manfred's defense of the L.A. Dodgers.   #douggottliebshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Colin is off back next week. And we've got a lot to get to, including Aaron Rogers. Jay Stewart, something did dawn on me here, as we had the breaking news that we'll get to in one second. It's that, uh, I don't even. I don't even know if I should, do I need to address LeBron tweeting at me randomly a couple days ago? Because it's a different platform than my show. Yeah, I think it's a must.

You think so? Yeah, maybe some people aren't familiar with this. So I think you need to, like, be derivative with it. What happened? How, why? What were you doing? I don't even know what happened. Like, I don't know, like, what, like, I was, if I was flying.

From your vantage point, how did it go down? Okay. So for people just joining us. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Colin. Many of you have, throughout my travels now, as both the host of the Doug Gottlieb show and the head coach at Green Bay, have like, man, I love you when you're on Colin. Like, I'm still on Colin.

We just do it remotely now. So I appreciate you. And obviously, Colin is going to spend at least some time closer to us in Green Bay in Chicago. I don't know how much that's going to be or how any of that works. That's not my business. But, yeah. Over the weekend, we broke out of our, despite the fact we, you know, didn't have, still don't have the nation's leading scores out with injury or our starting

center who came over made a year. We pulled off an upset, got a big win. On Sunday, for the first time since 2021, we won a game on our on-campus facility called the Crest Center. That was first time since 2021, we'd won on campus. And for my team, we lost 21 in a row. 21 in a row, kids battled and beat a good right state team and ended up getting to win. So, you know, it's like unbelievably positive vibes.

And these, and I can, you know, everybody calls their college team kids. But when you're playing, you know, six of your rotation or, you know, start five freshmen, four freshmen and a sophomore who's 19 years old, You know, you're sitting there going, hey, they're actually kids. Everybody calls their team in college kids, and as the sport has gotten older, my guys are actually kids. So for these kids, they just kind of taken a beating a little bit, you know? Emotionally themselves, they're competitive people. And then I don't think they, and probably I didn't even understand how people would choose to follow our story this year. You know, just looking at final scores, not caring about anything else.

And when the losing streak built up, you know, people beat up on us on social media. There's plenty of other teams that are struggling this year. Apparently, the only one they care about is mine, which is fine. Okay, that's how it's going to be, and it's going to be that way when we win. So that's okay. But the point is that I don't know if anyone, especially those players, expected what kind of happened. So we get a win on Sunday.

It's 2 o'clock game. You know, about 4.35 o'clock. I'm over to a place called the Black Sheep, which is on this side of town, it's the only real spot where you can go have a beverage. And it's great. And then that night we go out and have dinner and the guys are good.

And the guys have, we have to it's mandatory for our program to take two days off. We chose to give them two consecutive days off. And me and a couple of my staff guys, we went and recruited on Monday. So I'm flying and I made it

a point to myself, Chase, too. As you know, I am on my phone too much. And this job is terrible for it. Terrible for it. Because, you know, like when you're recruiting, you have to constantly

check in with players and coaches. With your team, you kind of have to constantly check in with your players and coaches. And with that, you're going to be on your phone. But I was like, you know what? We got to win. It feels good.

I don't need social media today. I don't need any of the day. I'm just going to fly and land and be and watch tape and figure out recruiting, figure out my current staff, my current roster, all these things. I land. And I hadn't, it's like first time, because I normally fly American, and I was flying Delta and I'm like

you know I have an account with American to have that to have the Wi-Fi you know where you're paying a monthly I didn't have it with Delta I didn't even look at it I just

I'm just watching tape mine in my own business and all of a sudden I land and one of my buddies calls me says what would you do LeBron I was like I don't even know what you're talking about

did you see Twitter I was like no I'm not on Twitter today he's like Braun's coming at you okay over what he's like I don't know

so the context of the tweet was clearly making fun of our record which the tweet was old we'd actually it's like all my guys

all my players texted me like hey coach can you tell LeBron we've won three games not two like we're not like that and and then you know he went he went 30 year old

credit card with the got to give him credit deal to be clever. So I think again I don't know because I don't know what LeBron James would be doing on the day before he had to get back to work with his ankle injury. But my guess is

either I live in his head rent-free which is a possibility or it popped up in his you know it can pop up in your like timeline our record and he just chose to fire off it, you know, catch me astray. But for whatever reason, he chose to do it. And, of course, there is speculation from the masses that it's over the fact that I have

questioned. Bronny James' validity as McDonald's All-American. When Jonathan Gavoni ranked him as the 10th best NBA prospect in college in basketball last year, even his selection at 55 in the NBA draft or their use of him early on the season he's still on the Lakers roster I guess but I don't know Chase too again we're just guessing because it wasn't like

and it wouldn't be that hard finding a take that a lot of people had but finding a take that he didn't like of mine and then quote tweeting it and if he wants to then make fun of our record, I guess that it's good. So am I assuming the wrong thing to assume

maybe it's over, Bronny, maybe it's, or he listens to the show, he didn't like some of my football picks? What do we think it's over? It's been fascinating sport to theorize on this one, because yeah, he hasn't had any follow-up. Nobody asked him, and if, you know, somebody like Dan

Wookiee's listening right now, maybe somebody should ask him about the Gottlieb tweet at the next game, because we do need clarification. The theories that I've heard around the office here. You were one of multiple people to make a comparison of Brony with Make a Wish, okay, that exaggeration. That probably hit his radar. But I think the one take that you had over the summer when you said that you weren't sure that Brony would start for your team. So in other words, you have a Division I head coach saying in the Horizon League saying that I'm not sure

Brony would start for my team. Now, I remember you saying that, and you were being genuine, you were not saying that to exaggerate, that was not a hot take. That is basically how you felt about Brony's skill set at that time. I think earlier this week, you said, you know what, he would break the starting

lineup. But he's not as good as your best player. Part of it is, okay, so again, we're kind of brass tax, but people don't know, and it's great. It's actually, Anthony Roy is our best player. Anthony Roy was averaging 27 a game before he suffered a lower leg injury that he is working to come back from. And I don't know if he'll be back for our regular season. It's going to be real close.

Okay. Anthony Roy is better, and I would rather start him than Ronnie James. No one in my program, no one in basketball would argue with that. He just would. He's a walking bucket. He was leading the country in three-point percentage and an effective field goal percentage, while averaging 27 a game. Again, it's not just about points or whatever,

but the dude is ridiculous. He's also older than Brony. He's 23 years old, turned 23 mid-season. So he's older than Brony. So if you think Brony has better upside, again, you can think that I don't believe so. So he would not start there. My other two starting guards, at the time this summer,

I have a kid named Preston Routinger who is in his fourth year playing. He started out as a walk on at Valpo then earned a scholarship of Valpo then transferred to Green Bay. He's just a hard playing 6-2 kid from Appleton was from Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

And then I had Jeremiah Johnson who was a top 100, top 150 kid and I think he actually compares very favorably to Brani. And here's the thing, okay? If we're actually going to have a real basketball conversation, here's the real basketball conversation. Because though I don't have time to track every G-League performance,

I do have people in my life that I'm very close to who have, do, and continue to either coach or evaluate the G-League. And he had, you know, one of his games in which he had a bunch of points, he wasn't actually very good. You know, he was like 6 of 19 or whatever, and they went from a close game to getting blown out. And then he had another big game where he played really, really well. He's been up and down in the G League.

He's been completely ineffective, and he's not good enough to play in the NBA. And no one really argues with that. They don't. Can he start on my team? Yeah, probably. My issue with Brony has always been, like, he's not a point guard. He's not an elite shooter.

There's no tracking for any time in his career, high school, college, professionally, that he is an elite shooter, ever. He's not an elite passer. And though he can be, he has some of the skill set of being a good defender. Like, the issue that most people myself who actually evaluate basketball is, especially during Summer League, he wouldn't guard the big time point guard, the legit dude. You know, he'd go over and kind of hide and guard a shot. shooter. So, you know, I think he's, I thought he'd actually have a very good college career. My suggestion at the time, and would have remained, why not go play for one of your best

friends at Duquesne, get away from it, and just really, really develop the confidence of being a scoring combo, because that's his path to success. But yeah, like, and my staff, when I said that, they're like, I think he'd start. Like, I don't know that. I don't know what he looks like. Because when I saw him play in college at USC, and unless Andy Enfield's a complete dope, which I don't think anybody thinks Andy Enfield's a complete dope,

he didn't start him because he was behind guards that were better than him. And when he did play, regardless of his stats, they didn't win. They weren't more competitive. They were one of the worst teams in the Pac-12 last year. That wasn't a super-strong basketball conference. Now, it's a higher level on the horizon. but like we got good guards in this league really really good guards

there's a kid named uh bello at uh at peru fort way he was a division two kid who transferred in there he's tough he's tough i would rather have him than have ronnie and then the other part to it is the reality when your coach you're not going to sit there and throw your own guys on the bus like oh he's better than everybody in my roster he's not so but but again if it's about that why not make it about that instead of just the stray

let's make fun of their record with no context leave you to wonder and what and the other part is why what is the win in it for LeBron now I know you got what do we call people who are like LeBron's sycophants

on social media stands LeBron stands just like the fan boys who, bronze sexuals, that's what they are. Bronze sexuals. Ah.

My, my, uh, my, my, uh, my, my,

uh, other than Lebron, Lebron, Lebron, like, that's, that is a weird one, too.

It's, it's creepy to the level of when, uh, women and guys, you just, remember when Michael Jackson would, like, travel to Japan and,

like, in his motorcade, people would see him, and they just start crying and you're like, what is wrong with those people? Why are you crying at the site of Michael Jackson? Jay Steele,

we're about the same age. You're a little older. Do you remember those videos of like Michael Jackson goes to a foreign country and people actually start crying? Of course, of course, yeah. That's how I view. I think most people view. What is it again, Ryan? Bronns sexuals?

Bronze sexuals. It's funny that you bring in Braun sexuals if you were hearing from them because if you read the comments of that tweet and I encourage our listeners to go to the tweet, it's still up. Most of the comments and I would say a ratio of like 9 to 1 are ripping on LeBron for wasting time tweeting about you

after he just cost somebody an All-Star spot the day before. And the theory that has been going around the office too and our guy, Dan Byer, came up with it and I think he's right. LeBron was just on his private jet on the way home Yeah. And on Twitter you have for you and you have following. He was on his for you.

And this tweet just comes up from college basketball news or whatever it is with your record. And I think he just did an impulse tweet. Yeah. And there are 23 laughing emojis and five caca emojis just to be precise. Do you go caca? Yeah, I went caca instead of turd for the herd audience. You could have got number two as well. or poo

could have done poo do we say the word poo anymore you say poo when we were kids can you go poo if not we'll clean it up and edit we would clean that up and edit to make it sound hipper for the kids what I don't know

the interesting part to me is like I don't care that he missed the All-Star game my guess is the reason he didn't bail in the All-Star game before was the league probably told him like hey dude act like you're going to play and then you know and then last second we'll have you not play.

If we announce that you're not playing, that could hurt the numbers. Let's not do that. I would guess that that was a league mandated thing more than anything else. Because there's been lots of speculation about, hey, why didn't you just, like, why didn't they grab Lamello ball and throw him in that game? Lamello would have loved to be an All-Star. My guess is that they wanted LeBron to go through all the pomp, all the circumstance, pretend like he was playing, be there. because had he not been in the game, LeBron probably been like, I'm out.

I'm taking my private jet and I'm going somewhere nice. They're like, yeah, we can't do that. Which kind of circles us back to who's the next face to leak. But I find the whole thing to be just fascinating. That's somebody who, like, why does he care? But apparently he cares. cares enough cares enough

but people have asked I've had lots of people go like you're and again this is more bronze sexuals you could take the heap you can't dish it out like what do you want me to dish out do you want me to specifically react to a tweet that has nothing other than like

our record is what it is like I can't change it and I don't feel the need to go back and go like well you know I didn't have this guy then I didn't have this then We played a top 100 schedule and we're a bottom 250 team. Like, that was dumb. And, like, nobody cares.

I don't care. They don't care about anything other than either being the most vile people ever or being supportive. There's no in between. There's no gray. So, like, what do you want me to come back as? Ooh, you missed the last two game winning shots. Like, he's LeBron James. Okay.

there was no substance to his tweet other than willfully showing the desire to make fun of a team that he's never watched, he's never paid attention to, and that's funny. I don't know. Good for him. That's small guy stuff. That's small guy stuff. Oh, we got breaking news in the NBA. Huge breaking news in the NBA. How does it affect this season?

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Fox Sports Radio. Iheart radio app. Welcome welcome welcome in Breaking news in the NBA The breaking news in the NBA is Victor Webbenyama is going to miss the remainder of the season Apparently has deep Deep vein thrombosis in his shoulder

Deep vein thrombosis in his shoulder I don't know what any of that means It's basically like a blood clot In the shoulder They believe it's an isolated incident Why is it important it's isolated? If you have blood clots then it's very hard to ever play in the NBA because they've got to put you on blood thinner medication

and then there's all these steps you've got to go through and then if you come off it then you can get clots obviously we know blood clotting you know those things can break loose and can wreck havoc on your entire body so right now that is the breaking news what does it mean and how do we out is the league reacting to another

rating slip in another incarnation of the All-Star game and and what do we make of Luca and LeBron now that we saw them last night fall to the Charlotte Hornets? For that, I think we need to get funky. Let's get some funky Cole Mark Medina joining us. He's our Fox Sports Radio

NBA insider. He has his own you don't have his entry music? Okay, maybe I'll hum it for. Mark Medina joins us. Fox Sports Radio NBA insider. Okay, Webbingyama's out for the year. How fearful are the Spurs that there's something bigger than just this one-off? Well, the Spurs are certainly concerned enough to shut him down for the rest of the season,

but they're encouraged enough that they expect him to make a full recovery before next season. So I think the way the Spurs look at is they almost dodged a board here. You know, blood clots are something you never take lightly. He may recall Doug Chris Bosch had to end his career. career early and retired because he had multiple blood clots. But here is the key distinction. Victor Wembe Diama has a single blood clot in his shoulder. It's not spread anywhere else out on his body.

But obviously the spurs want to take precautionary measures, not just because of what he obviously means to this franchise, but for his long-term health. Okay, NBA All-Star game, they tried something different, doesn't seem to have worked, still catching criticism, and the ratings drop lower yet again. What's the league's future plans looking like for the All-Star game? Well, for better and mostly for worse, I think All-Star plans are always fluid.

You know, it's not going to go away because it is still a moneymaker, even if it's felt like this corporate, you know, convention trade show. But they have to find a better solution because we've seen time and time again. they add a new format, it just creates new problems. And what the new problems were this year is that you had a little bit better intensity because of the pride factor and you're playing to a score, but it was interrupted with even more commercial time. And that long presentation for the inside of the NBA guys in the finals came.

So if I had a guess moving forward next year, add into a dome in L.A., they go back to East-West format, and it's about, look, we're not going to, to do any more gimmicks, just try hard and act like you can give it, you know what, just to put on an entertaining show. No game 7 intensity. It's not a playoff matchup. Everyone should be healthy, but

at least put on an entertaining show for the fans. But, you know, Doug, you and I have talked a lot about All-Star Weekend. It seems unsolvable. So I have skepticism on any solution, but that's my guess on what will happen next year.

Stug got him in for Collins to hurt. Radio, IHeart Radio app. Mark Padena is our guest. He's our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider. Mark, let's go to Crypto last night. Lakers have a big lead and lose. Lamello goes, you know, right around the

traffic cone that is Luca towards at the end of the game. And LeBron misses two game tying three-point shots. Look, it's just one game. It's a game in which they missed. They had to make. It's a make-up game.

but do you got any takeaways from watching those two play together? Yeah, there's a lot of takeaways. The extenuating circumstances, yes, you understand, you mentioned the makeup game, post-all-star break, sometimes that first game is really sluggish. Luca Dachic, he's played only three games with them, not only just with the Lakers, but since Christmas with his injury.

But what this means, big picture, I don't have concerns about Lucas' conditioning or his injury. That's going to round a number. form. I feel like his intentions were good. He was competing. Even though his passes were way off and his shots were way off, he was still trying to make the right play. But he was trying too hard. Now, I think what is going to be interesting moving forward is how do they decide in crunch time what is the best play? LeBron James or Luca Dantzich. In yesterday's game, the answer was fairly obvious. He'd go with LeBron because he was shooting the ball a lot better. But I think all things

being equal, you know, theoretically, Luca should be the guy taking a shot because that's just how he's geared. And LeBron, you know, for all his greatness, he is great at making the past. So that's what I'm going to be curious about looking forward. And then the other thing is just defensively, what do they do? They can't defend anyone. You mentioned Lamello Ball getting the best of Luca Dodgers. There's a reason after that play that Luca was held out, you know,

on final possessions for defensive purposes. So they have a lot of questions on what they can do in the back court on defense as well as in the front court because outside of Jackson, hey, they don't really have much size. Okay, Kevin Durant said, game out and said, hey, the reason I didn't want to be traded at Golden State wasn't anything negative about Golden State. I just want to see this thing through with my team. But at least the speculation, this is probably the last run with Phoenix. What do people think about now that the thing has been reshuffled? who are who's the favorite i mean like oklahoma city looks like they should be the favorite but they did nothing in the playoffs last year dallas looks like they should be dynamic defensively

but they're not healthy and they don't have luca and we don't really know right the lakers don't look like they can guard anybody golden state looks better but how much better like it's really hard to figure out what do people in the league think of the west now yeah i think the the the feeling is the thunder still the favor but not the predominant favor do you still have to consider the memphis great They've been playing at a really high level, even with John Moran having some overlapping injuries, because Sharon Jackson, Jr. has been a really great defensive player, has increased his versatility offensively to Nuggets.

They were a hot mess at the beginning of the season, and they still have some structural issues as far as lack of depth and, you know, on questions about Jamal Murray and Eric Gordon's durability. But they have this guy in Nicole Yolkich who is still in the MVP running because he has been able to keep that team afloat. But I still give the edge of the Thunder. I'm with you, Doug. I understand the inexperience, but I think Shea's taking his game to another level this

year where he's not just the isolation score. He's good at getting other guys involved. They have so many wing defenders, Alex Caruso, Jalen Williams, Lou Dort. You think about what that means in a playoff series. They're not going to shut down top scores, but they can just throw multiple bodies at them. And Jet Holmgren's not even back yet. So I don't think it's inevitable they get to the NBA finals, but if I had to make a prediction, it is. And then out east, I think it's really between Boston, Cleveland.

I think it's a seven-game series. Each team has its own case with Boston's championship experience. Most of their team intact, and Cleveland just really taking their chemistry to another level this season. I mean, Doug, you and I, I believe, talked about that fit last year with Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, Jared Allen, Evan Mobley. We've seen that both of those players in the back and front court can go exist and complement each other really well. And that's a testament to those guys as well as just how Kenny Atkinson's managed the offense. Okay, let's get to the east.

Obviously, people know and respect Boston. Cleveland's lurking out there. They didn't do anything to tinker with their roster feeling like, hey, we're good enough. Are they? They are, but I think that they're mindful, and we should be mindful, that regular season dominance doesn't always translate into the playoffs. I mean, you can think of the Houston Rockets in 2018, the Phoenix Suns a few years ago. They had deep playoff success, but you also did wonder, did some of that intensity catch up to them in the playoffs and, you know, allow fatigue to catch up to them. I think that they have such a complete team

that they'll be okay. It's just that Boston's really, really good, and a lot of their shortcomings just have to do with the fact that they're nursing the hangover that a lot of championship teams have. They're going through those walls. I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with the team. I know a lot is made about how they're jacking in 53s the game, and there's always questions about Porzingis' durability,

but I don't think that those two areas are going to make or break their championship fortunes. It starts with Jason Tatum and Jail Brown, and I think for the most part, they've been basically carrying the same kind of production they did last season. They take on Philadelphia tonight. Lakers travel to Portland tonight. Game one for everybody else not named the Lakers and the Hornets, although the Hornets are back in action in Denver tonight. Congratulations after win. Now you've got to go play in the altitude against the rested Nicola Yokic.

Mark, you're the best, man. Welcome back. It's the second part of the NBA season as we're getting ready for the playoffs. Can't wait to talk more with you. Thanks for being our guest. Right back at you, sir. Appreciate it.

All right, that's Mark Medina, the funky Cole Medina. Let's get you to Jason Stewart with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Jay Stu? What's you got, my friend?

Doug, I'm going to bring up a couple things here that I think you are uniquely qualified? Built to respond to. Bill 2. News from this morning, Andy Slater at Fox Sports 640 says that Carson Beck,

the new quarterback of the Miami Hurricanes, has had his Mercedes and his Lamborghini stolen. Gosh, something happened to me last night. Yours too? Maybe it's... Well, my Lamborghini was stolen. The Mercedes, somebody just took a joyride, too. You know, that's what happened.

I think it was somebody in LeBron's crew that may have stole your cars. No one knows what happens with Carson's. Now, Doug, if I was to say to you five years ago that the quarterback of one of the most successful football programs in the country would opt out and leave that program for the Miami Hurricanes and make upwards of $4 million and something called name, image, and license. And then he would have his Mercedes and Lamborghini stolen from his home. what would you have said five years ago? I would have said that's the most Miami store. I'm not sure that the Miami guys didn't have Lamborghinis back before it was legal.

Let's just be honest. Grant Nade at Miami is a little bit different than Grant Nade and some of the other fine institutions in this country. Yeah, it's a weird sign of times. I mean, look, there's all different parts to it. Like how the NIL stuff works with the cars, who, who pays for the insurance. I don't know. And you know, his girlfriend is one of the Cavender twins, right?

Yes. I think one of the cars was hers. Oh, man. I just, I can't believe how far we're coming. There's so much to this story. Yeah. And here's another one. Who steals cars anymore?

How could you steal a car? I mean, especially those cars. You'd think security would be very tough to crack. Well, it's not just that, but like, most cars have they're kind of easy to trace them now you know? Yeah.

Like remember they used to have LoJack? Do they still have LoJack? Do they still have LoJack? You guys remember a LoJack system? LoJack was like... I think LoJack is the map quest of security.

I think it's had it today and now they just have regular GPS. Yeah, but like every car has some sort of sensor on to where you can track it where it is. I think, especially cars, you know, like a Lamborghini, my guess is it's got some on it. So the whole,

Just the idea of a stolen car is really people still cars, but I guess it's Miami. And a stolen Lamborghini in Miami, right? Doesn't stick out like a stolen Lamborghini would in Athens, Georgia. Same thing with the Mercedes. There's a lot to that story. What would I have said? I would have said that's the most Miami story ever. So you know more about this than I do, but Bobby Hurley and the Sun Devils are struggling.

Calvin Sampson is the head coach of Houston, and Houston beat Arizona State earlier this week, handing them their six straight loss, 11th in their last 13th. Come on, that's nothing. Yeah, I was going to say. I found this comment interesting. I can't even remember our six straight loss.

Yeah. Kelvin said this after the game about Bobby Hurley and his team. Well, I hate to see it. Because I've been there, we all have. I coached the team at Washington State that lost 18 in a row. You know, I mean, it's not easy. It affects every part of your life. I don't know his life, but it gnaws at her.

It's not his children. It's amazing how people use that as a game. It's not a game. It's not funny. It's not something to talk about. It's not something to make fun of. I hope you have the courage to keep working and to keep fighting like he's doing right now. he's going right now. I love it.

You know, it's interesting. When we lost our 19th in a row, I texted Bill's stuff because Bill's first year at Orwell Roberts, they lost 18 a row. I was like, I got you beat. And he sent me a nice text. I won't share it's, you know, but for the most part, it's the same sort of message. And it's, that's the thing I take most pride in. You know, there's a couple of more articles.

Obviously, the athletic article came out last week. I don't know, the week before, I don't remember what it came out. there's been other people following us around and you know even though we won a game before we would won a game if you came to our practices it was not like

a funeral procession it just wasn't it doesn't mean every day was super fun and you know we're doing circus tricks but the guys just have a great spirit about them and that spirit is kind of reinvigorated by winning a game so look I understand

that you're here's the reality to it I, this is actually how I feel about LeBron. You know, LeBron a long time ago would talk about people on social media and maybe people in the media, you know, picking apart things he's done or hasn't done well or whatever or shots he's missed. And I think the point he made was it's about like, obviously there's something going on in your life that you want to lash out at mine. And so it's pretty obvious. Like if you want to have fun at my expense or taking over a team and at this level of college basketball, where it's not easy. And I had five kids remaining from last year's roster,

and we had to rebuild it, and we lost our best player to injury. Like, that's okay. I know I was going to, I'm going to learn a lot. But the difference in the people that are in it for the right reasons and for the long haul are what Kelvin said, what Bill Self said to me, the reality of it is lots of people have been through it.

and it's how you choose to work out of it. I think she's work out. But I do appreciate you playing that sound, and it's crazy because, I mean, like even Bill Self's team at Kansas struggling in the Big 12. Like college basketball is so competitive. You watched Missouri last night beat Alabama. They didn't win a game in the SEC last year. You know, because you're putting together teams in the fly, and sometimes the chemistry doesn't mix, and then you get injuries, and then it's just snowballs on. That happens.

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Radio, IHeart Radio app. Welcome in. So there has been a lot of palaver. Palaver from other teams, fans of other teams. You watch the MLB Network as we're getting ready

for the major league season on the defending champ, L.A. Dodgers spending a bunch of money. You're like, what did they spend a bunch of money? Last off-season. And then this off-season, they spent even more. here's here's Rob Manfred

who's at a spring training event when he was asked about the spending by the Dodgers over the past two seasons the Dodgers have gone out and done everything possible always within the rules that currently exist to put the best possible team on the field

and I think that's a great thing for the game that type of competitive spirit is what people want to see I said this at the owner's meeting because I'll say it again it's clear that we have fans in some markets that are concerned about the ability of the team in their market to compete with the financial resources of the Dodgers. And I think if we've been consistent on one point, it is we try to listen to our fans

on topics like this. And I have heard people on this, believe me. Yeah, so look, I look at the Dodgers like I look at Netflix. And the big story in the sports world in the past day and a half is Netflix is, Netflix is trying to get in on NFL Sunday Sunday NFL broadcast rights, right? And you're like,

how are the two comparable? Well, Netflix is making a kill him. Right? Making a killing. And they've dove head deep into live sporting events with the Paul fight versus versus Mike Tyson.

Right? And obviously, that along with the NFL games is the Christmas Day games, they've worked. And this was the same company that started out first time you heard of Netflix was probably, hey, do I pay for one DVD at once?

Or do I get three and have to put them back in those little paper packages? Then they expanded and they became a streaming giant and now they're worth more than Disney. That's crazy. Crazy.

But in Instead of sitting on their laurels and say, this is what we got, this is who keep developing shows, keep push forward, which they're doing, now they're expanding. The Dodgers, like, look, the show hey contract, which essentially everything is deferred, frees up a bunch of money. Well, if you freed up a bunch of money and you're making a bunch of money, you might as well go spend it and keep getting better. It's not like the Dodgers have won the last 10 World Series and outspent all their opponents. and it's getting lame already. Up until last year, they'd only won the COVID-year World Series since 1988. So they got every right to keep going after it.

They don't violate any of the collective bargaining agreement laws. You're complaining more about your team and your lack of a plan. And oh yeah, by the way, creating a behemoth, creating a super team, I think is good for the league. It is. gives you somebody to root for, gives you somebody to root against. And the league's not dumb. Right, their numbers. And the Red Sox, you know, they have a very good farm system.

I don't, I mean, this is not the Red Sox here. But Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, they get the Cubs going again. You know, they need somebody else out west, be it the Giants or something. The fact is that when baseball was at its peak, ratings during my professional lifetime. Okay, so I've been doing this since 2003 nationally.

Was right when I started, right? And I believe that one of the reasons they expanded the playoffs was that they would always have the Yankees and the Red Sox Yankees or now the Yankees and the Red Sox in the playoffs. Those drove the ratings bus. The Dodgers drive the international

and West Coast ratings. So why wouldn't you celebrate it? And oh yeah, by the way, you don't necessarily need to spend all that money on a yearly basis to win, as we've seen from other teams. But complaining about the expansion of a team that's killing it and doing well is complaining about Netflix trying to do new things. Anybody who runs the business knows, keep going, keep pushing, keep diversifying.

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