The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Rodgers, Browns, Blazing 5

Episode Date: November 5, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:35 Live in Los Angeles, hour two, it's the hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio and FS1. What a pleasure it is today. You know, Joy, temperatures are cooling down in Los Angeles. Inside more. You can really bunker down this weekend. It's going to be a big football.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We're going to learn a lot, Joy, about the. Packers. We are. I thought you were about to say you were going on the beard back. No, don't with that. Look sloppy. You're doing your scruff rub.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, I mean... There's a lot to learn. Got to keep your eye on the Patriots. They looked like they're back last weekend. Now they have to go back on the road. It's a big weekend for the Browns. Big, thank you. There's a lot to learn.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I will be bunkered down in the grotto. Is it a... Well, no, we don't do chicken parma on Sunday. Sundays because that makes you sleepy. Is it a nacho weekend? It's a no alcohol, have to see with clarity. No. No. Cigars. Nope. No fuzziness. You have to watch these games. You're not getting wild call on this weekend, Hollywood. No. All odds provided by Fox Betts sports book are Blazing Five off a winning week. Here we go. Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins Blazing Five. Vikings and Ravens.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I like the Ravens minus six to win and win big. They're coming off a bye. Great coaches off a buy do well. They've won five of their last six games. They're a good big game team. They're averaging over six yards of play, top four in the league. And if you just look at production, Lamar Jackson running and throwing, he leads the NFL. The Vikings are one and five in their last six against winning teams. And here's what's funny about Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:04:26 The AFC sees a lot of Lamar Jackson. The NFC does not. He's 11 and 0 against. the NFC with 25 touchdowns and three picks. The NFC doesn't see a lot of Lamar. So when they show up and have to defend him and he's way faster than the tape, there is a shocking, alarmingly jarring Lamar Jackson reality to NFC teams. He eats him alive. I like Baltimore 3324. Broncos at Cowboys. Broncos trade Vaughn Miller. What is the message to that locker room? We're done.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I like the Cowboys minus nine and a half. Six-game winning streak, one of only two teams in the league, Buffalo the other, to outgain every opponent. Dak Prescott is rolling, folks, one of four quarterbacks averaging 300-plus passing yards. Now Cedric Wilson appears to be an excellent target. The Broncos have lost three of four games. They're banged up. They trade von Miller. They needed two-block field goals to beat Washington last week.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And they're an 0-and-4 team if they allow over-fever. 14 points. Translation, you're not keeping the score low here for Dallas. They're going to pull away. Cowboys win 3423. Falcons at Saints. I know. You think I'm crazy. I don't know if they'll win. I'm going to take the Falcons plus six and a half. The number's too big. Here's why. A, it's a division rival. These teams always play close. Also, Falcons are two and two in their last four. Only losses both one possession. Also, 23 straight games, Atlanta has not allowed a hundred-yard rusher. Why does that matter? Because Michael Thomas isn't coming back. Because they didn't land a
Starting point is 00:06:06 speed receiver. This is a very weak receiving core. In fact, New Orleans has only 15 big plays all year, lowest in the NFL. What does that tell you? They've got to run the ball. What does it tell you? Atlanta's got a good run defense. The Saints offense this season, it's a pop gun. It's a water pistol. I think they win the game. But by the way, Trevor Simeon, you're all loving, right? His last 25 starts. He's got 31 TDs and 24 picks, low ceiling. I'll take the Saints to win at home. I can't. I cannot give Atlanta six and a half in good conscience. I'm going to take Atlanta to cover Saints win 2624. Raiders and Giants. I like the Giants plus three. They're getting healthier. Kenny Goliday now will play. Cadarius Tony will play. Daniel Jones for all the
Starting point is 00:06:54 criticism, back-to-back games with a 95 plus passer rating, and their defense takes the ball away. The Giants defense in the last four games, top seven third down, top seven takeaways, tied for third in sacks. It's a real defense. The Raiders are dealing with multiple off-field issues, and their red zone defense is the worst in the league. What does that mean? The Giants may not have to settle for field goals. The Giants are going to get some touchdowns at home here.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I like the Giants to upset the Raiders 24-23. Cardinals at 49ers. Like it, I love it. Niners had a 300-yard passer, 100-yard rusher, 100-yard-plus receiver. Debo Samuel, they got playmakers here. Arizona's nursing, D'Andre Hopkins hamstring issue. A.J. Green on the COVID-reserve list. Kyler Murray didn't practice.
Starting point is 00:07:46 You are not getting them at full strength. Also, J.J. Watts gone. He was their best run defenseer on. run defender on the defensive line. What do they like to do? They like to run the football. And Garoppolo has had a ton of success against Arizona. 116 passer rating.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Arizona is beat up, stars out. J.J. Watt no longer there. I think it hurts Arizona's run defense. You saw it against Green Bay. Green Bay pushed them around. J.J. Watt had value. I like San Francisco to win and cover 30. 24. I love those picks. I really do. I really do. Hey, I humbly love those picks. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I hate big numbers, but I took Tampa a couple weeks ago with a big number they covered. I took Buffalo last week they covered big number. It's a new league. I'm taking Dallas minus nine and a half. I think that Vaughn Miller trade, I don't think that's great for the room. All right, let's bring in Eric Manjini, Fox Sports NFL analyst. He lives in Clems. Cleveland. So let's just start with this. Why didn't O'Dell? Why didn't it work in Cleveland? I won't even have an opinion. You tell me, why didn't it work? Well, Colin, when everywhere you go, there's a problem. At some point, you've got to realize that maybe you're the problem. Maybe you're the issue. Maybe it isn't everybody else. And O'Dell's had a problem everywhere
Starting point is 00:09:15 he's been. And the talk has been, it was the head coach's fault. It was the quarterback's fall, the team wasn't good enough, and you can go on and on with it. But at some point, you've got to take a step back and say, okay, what can I do a little bit different to make this successful? And he had tremendous success really early in his career, but since then, it's, it's been hot and cold. It's been marred with injuries. And I think he has a real hard time not being on the marquee. And in Cleveland, there's a lot of other guys that are going to be on the Marquis ahead of O'Dell, and he's not willing to accept that role. He's not a terribly disciplined or outrunner.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Can he still work for somebody in this league, Eric? Yeah, the flip side of that is when you watch the tape and you watch the way that people play the Browns, he's still getting a lot of attention when he's on the field because nobody wants to be the team that gives up the big game against O'Dell. So that respect is legit. and he can be productive. I think he's going to have to go to a place where, A, he wants to be, and B, he's excited to be,
Starting point is 00:10:28 and C, Pry has some sort of veteran, outstanding quarterback that can control the negativity that could possibly come with him joining the team. Yeah. I mean, that 11-minute video, his dad sent out, he was open. He can get open. That's no question. So I've always thought Aaron Rogers is great. I think he's a little high maintenance. I think he can be selfish and a tad bit of a diva. I know you've always liked him. This whole situation this week, did it alter the way you think of
Starting point is 00:10:59 Aaron? As a player, I've always loved Aaron and he's so hard to deal with from a defensive standpoint. I would imagine that Aaron thinks he's one of the smartest people in the room. and he probably is the smartest person in a lot of rooms. However, the way that he handled this, it makes some of the other things that he talks about. You have to take a step back and say, how legitimate were those things? When he talked about wanting to be involved in personnel because of, you know, the talented guys they left as opposed to, hey, I was frustrated with my contract. You start to second guess all the things that he says when you get confronted with a situation like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You know, I was thinking about this. This maybe is a little bit down the road, but I thought it was really working perfectly. So the teams that are in Green Bay's class in the NFC were dome team Arizona, warm weather, Tampa, dome team L.A. And I thought, you know, they were going to have to potentially go to Lambo in January. and I was like, man, this could work out really, really well. And I don't know if Aaron thought about that, but coach, they lose to Kansas City in Seattle. There goes, I think that's a significant advantage for a dome team to go play in the snow in January. I mean, your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, you don't want to go to Green Bay when it's cold. And it's ridiculously cold up there. I've played in some games there that if your guys aren't used to that, it can be jarring. I'm excited to see what happens with Green Bay this week, and I'm excited that Jordan Love is going to get an opportunity, and this is really why they drafted him. Eventually, he was going to be the heir apparent, but in those situations where Aaron goes down, do you have a second that can come in and play and play well? And he's had plenty of time to learn the system. He's had plenty of time to get used to the NFL. This is a great opportunity organizationally to see what they have.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And I would imagine that he'll play well. I don't know if he's going to play well enough to win, but I think he's going to play well with the opportunity. So I need a coach's insight here. So I did not put the Bengals Browns. I did not make it one of my picks because I don't know how the Cleveland locker room is going to respond. I would have to completely guess on this. So you tell me, there's a disruptive plows.
Starting point is 00:13:36 player, it's ugly, you let him go. Do you expect Cleveland to be hyper-focused or distracted? What do you think we see with Cleveland this week? Well, usually in these situations, Colin, we hear a fraction of what's really going on. And look, I've been in plenty of those situations where you have something happening, something leaks out to the media, but it's only the tip of the iceberg. So it just depends on how truly disruptive it was having them there, how much of me. issue he was in the meeting rooms or on the practice field or or how confrontational it was
Starting point is 00:14:12 with him and baker sometimes the group can collectively exhale and and you remove all of that negativity if it really was the case and and it allows you you to focus and look we hear teachers talk about the student that that needs a ton of attention takes attention from from everybody else it can be a really good thing in addition by subtraction if it was as disruptive as I imagine it was. So Robert Sala, for the second time this year, went to a podium. Forget saying it to his coaches, went to a podium and largely said, you can learn a lot not playing and you don't have to, sometimes it's okay, you don't have to be the star in every play.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And it was my knock on Zach Wilson coming into the league that I thought he had some Johnny Mansell, that he played hero ball. A little bit of a show-off, and he played. And it's hard. Tom Brady, as great as he was, I never thought he was showing off. He did what was best for the team. Last two games without Zach Wilson,
Starting point is 00:15:15 they're wildly productive on offense. You think there's anybody in that locker room that's thinking, maybe we should play Mike White? Anybody? Yeah, I think there's a ton of guys in that locker room that are thinking we should play Mike White. And when you have a high pick like that and you don't bring in any legitimate competition form, you don't position them in any way that's similar to any of the other players on the team, and then that player goes in and doesn't perform at a high level or even, you know, an average level initially, it can create a lot of resentment in the locker room. Guys don't want to see other guys just get handed positions, just get handed on.
Starting point is 00:16:00 opportunities that they weren't able to have, that they all want to win. And they're all doing everything they can to win. And if someone's holding them back, even though they were a high draft picker, they got paid a lot of money, they want that person to sit and put the other guy in who gives us a chance to actually legitimately win.
Starting point is 00:16:17 All right. So, you know, you know the Patriots well, and I'm watching Mack Jones' last 14 quarters. And I'm like, I think Bill's turn the corner. I think it took a year and a half, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:30 Nick Folk, doesn't miss kicks. The defense is good. You can't beat them over the top. The penalties are low. I really think they have a nice runoffense. Has Bill turned the corner? Are they on their way now? The worst nightmare for the league, New England's coming back.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Well, this is what happens or should happen with the young players' con. It's about midway through the season. There should be a significant jump in the way that they perform because they're over all of that initial learning in the playbook, getting used to the coaching staff, getting used to the NFL, and now you're building reps upon reps, and it sounds like Mac Jones, outside of being smart, works really hard. So things are starting to slow down for him in terms of what he's seeing.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He probably understands the entire office. He's understanding who he's playing with. Yeah, they've got an opportunity to take another jump. And as long as New England doesn't make plays to beat themselves, which historically they haven't. There's been a few more this year than traditionally they've had. They're going to be in every game. And as he gets incrementally better,
Starting point is 00:17:38 they could be a problem as we get to the end of the season for a lot of teams in the AFC. All right. Go back to listening to Cleveland Sports Radio. I'm sure it's really. Yeah, I'm going to jump on that. Colin, your weekend doesn't sound very fun. No nachos, no cocktails. I'm glad I'm not hanging out with you this weekend.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It just, yeah. All football, Eric. You know me. I have no life. Eric Mangini, great seeing you, coach. All right, we'll talk to you soon. By the way, Prince Amokamara, former a New York giant, and he's going to be joining us this hour, very interested on his thoughts on a variety of things.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And also we have Leroy Butler next hour. He's a talk show host, former Packer, a talk show host in Green Bay. I cannot wait to hear what his callers are saying on this. I love when he comes on because he gets to hear Packer fans. I don't get to hear that. It's on like a Milwaukee's Best Rock, and he's out there talking to the fans in Green Bay. I don't know what they're saying, and I'm fascinated by it.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I'm curious, too, because according to Twitter, it's our fault. Oh, my bad. You're right. Yeah, we divulged information that was pretty obvious. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd love.
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Starting point is 00:21:27 To be clear, 84 is big to me Not just because of crack I'm down to talk about crack on day But just so y'all know I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack So I'm starting to see that there's a through line
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Starting point is 00:22:27 You know, I didn't have an opportunity to go to Annapolis. I had gone to West Point earlier, which is one of the most remarkable places on the face of the earth. I've heard Annapolis is equally devastatingly beautiful and impressive. And if you ever get opportunities to go to those places, I strongly encourage you. There's a great historical relevance, obviously. And I've heard this is just an incredible place. You know, when I'm a West Coast guy, and when I moved out east, I try to make a point to really go to historic places. Because I didn't think I lived there forever. And there are so many rich traditions on the East Coast that they would make great vacations with your family. There are so many smart, interesting, fascinating, important places. And Annapolis is supposed to be one of those. So the guys are going to have a great time. And Fox has a remarkable job to support the men and women in the military in America. So can't wait for that. By the way, Joy has got a story.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm not even going to do a story now. I'm just going to give it to Joy because this is. Aaron Roger stuff that's coming out, he's crossed a threshold of Cookeytown. So, Joy with the News. Turn on the news. This is the Hurdline News. Well, there's kind of a lot to unpack here.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So Aaron Rogers tested positive for COVID this week and was immediately ruled out for the Packers game against the Chiefs on Sunday. NFL did that, not the media. The NFL, yes. Only the NFL said that he was out. Now, it was revealed that he was on vacuum. And the reason that we know he's unvaccinated is because we have a very clear understanding the media, people who have read the protocols of what the difference in protocols are for vaccinated and unvaccinated players. And when we find out that someone is positive or if they are in protocol, which doesn't necessarily mean that they are positive, but they could have had a close contact. We know if they're vaccinated or not based off of the fact that they can.
Starting point is 00:24:27 return with a series of negative tests. This was not an option for Aaron Rogers. Therefore, by process of elimination, using brain power, we were able to deduce, not we, but reporters, that he was unvaccinated. Well, Aaron Rogers is displeased with this information becoming public. He is furious that it has been, quote, unquote, leaked. Hasn't been leaked. There's a lot to get to here.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But I think words are very important. And so does Aaron Rogers, because that's why he specifically said he was immunized, immunized, and not vaccinated. Because words are important. We use words to communicate different things. They imply different things. Leaked means that this was something that was supposed to always be private. There was no reason for it to become public. It was a private matter, private information, private information, private
Starting point is 00:25:25 conversation. For example, the dolphins to a conversation with the Texans. That was leaked. That was leaked, leaked, meaning it was a private conversation or matter that was then made public, which happens all the time, but that was a leak. Us using our brains based off of the protocols and the information that we were given about when you would be back to understand that you were unvaccinated is not a leak. No one is conspiring against Aaron Rogers. It's not HIPAA. Well, wait, it gets worse. So it gets worse. So on the Pat McAfee show, which he does every week, he said several quotes. He said, I'm doing really well. So big thanks to everybody that reached out.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Checked on me the last couple of days, I feel really good. That's good news. So everything else aside, he is not extremely sick because this is a deadly virus. And he is unvaccinated. So he is feeling good. So that's good. That's good. He said he is in the crosshairs of the woke mob. And references cancel culture, of course, because, I mean, got to blame the cancer. How can you say anything today about having a comment? But that's an interesting word because words matter to Aaron, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:26:30 The woke mob. No, the president is asking you to get fascinated. That's not a woke mob. The CDC, scientists and doctors, based on data, you have 72% less chance to die, 63% less to be in ICU. Yeah, but the CDC changed the protocols and their recommendations several times. So they're liars. And Joe Biden is a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So who should we listen to? How about Donald Trump? He got the vaccine. His entire family is vaccinated and encouraged everyone else to get vaccinated to. So it's not a woke mob. I'm pretty sure Trump is not a member of the woke mob. As a card-carrying member of the woke mob, I'm pretty sure he's not with us. Anyway, he said, I didn't lie in the initial press conference. He said there's a witch hunt going across the...
Starting point is 00:27:15 I mean, a witch hunt. I'm sorry. I have to get through this. I mean to be professional. There's a witch-hunts going on across the league about vaccination status. he is a critical thinker and doesn't believe in giving into woke culture. It's not woke to get, now, now, by the way, when Delta Airlines, when, by the way, Fox News has protocols, are they woke? Is Donald Trump woke?
Starting point is 00:27:44 No. Like, literally, Aaron is trying to. There's so much more. He said he had an allergy to Moderna and Pfizer, so Johnson Johnson was the only option. and he didn't like the Johnson and Johnson clotting issues. He also said the NFL Vax protocols are not based in science, but were shame-based to get people vaccinated. No, they're actually created by scientists and,
Starting point is 00:28:08 like he thinks it just was made of a home brew made up by a Larry on the Reddit board. Apparently. I don't know, or the man, Bill Gates. He also appealed the decision of the NFL and NFLPA rejecting his unvaccinated status, saying he gathered over 500 pages of research on the efficacy of, vaccines. My desire to immunize myself is what's best for my body. He also said the next chapter of his life is becoming a father and expresses the concern about the long-term effects of the vaccine and what it might do in terms of being sterile. I have the CDC website if you care to listen
Starting point is 00:28:44 to the CDC, which is of course very controversial, but it very clearly states on the bright, bold letters, research studies for the fertility and healthy males. And it says right here, no such thing. no evidence of that whatsoever, but again, would a doctors know? He said he's not some sort of anti-vaxer, though. He's not a flat earther. Okay. And he does fall on the sword, though, however,
Starting point is 00:29:06 for the press conference violations. This is interesting. For the protocols, because it says, he says it's the only protocol that he has broken because the press conference rules, he says, make no sense to me. Wait, time out.
Starting point is 00:29:21 So they don't make sense to Aaron, so he's going to break him. that's what narcissists do. I know the world has to wear masks, but it doesn't make sense to me. By the way, at Fox, there are places I can go, can't go, and I'm vaccinated. There are areas I have to wear a mask.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And like an elevator, I have to wait, you know, but it doesn't make sense to me at Fox. So I'm just going to freewheel it, you know, and just kind of do what I want to do. Can you imagine being so arrogant that you break protocols because, you know, it just doesn't make sense to me. Say what you want about Cole Beasley. He acknowledges authentically, I'm against it.
Starting point is 00:29:59 The league allows that. But what it doesn't allow is to you to freewheel it and just do it because it doesn't make sense to me. I can't relate to this kind of arrogance because I'm not permitted to as an individual in life. I'm not granted those privileges to just decide what I can do and not do in every setting in every room. You know how Aaron-
Starting point is 00:30:20 So no, I can't relate to just deciding that the protocol doesn't apply to me. You know how Aaron tends to think he's above the media? Aaron, you're no longer interesting. I'm above you. You literally believe that the rules don't apply because they don't make sense to Aaron. I read it in a Reddit board that at Fox,
Starting point is 00:30:38 and I don't think we're woke, you have to wear your mask in certain places. By the way, I do think a lot of the masking is cosmetic theater. I will say it sometimes I think it's ridiculous. I hate it. Look at this face. Do you think I have anything? desire to walk around with a piece of cloth over my face
Starting point is 00:30:54 all day. No. I mean, my prime years and they are being disguised. People don't even recognize me. Do you know how awful that is for me? I never thought about that. The mask is great for me. I have flawless skin and I'm starting to get bumps. I can't be anything but condescending about this. I'm sorry. Like there are
Starting point is 00:31:10 ways to talk about what you believe in. Oh my God. And the most frustrating thing is all I hear about this ridiculous vaccine conversation is that it's been made to be political and that it's divisive. Well, when you say things like cancel culture,
Starting point is 00:31:26 no one is canceling you. You will make so much more money in your career. You will have lots of endorsements. You will still be famous. You can buy mansions. Just stop it. Stop, stop, stop it. Cancel culture, I don't even want to hear the term.
Starting point is 00:31:39 No one is canceling you. There are rules. Are we just advocating for anarchy? I'm down because I will win. I am the craziest here. I promise you. What is the point of all this? I literally...
Starting point is 00:31:52 I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm crossed a threshold of crazy town. His narcissism is, it, is, it now it's gotten to a point where, even the people that have defended him for the years. And I've said, he's a lot of maintenance. I think even those people now, they see what I've been saying for years. You are. For years. Yes. This is ridiculous. So anyway, the Browns released O'Dell Beckham today after nearly three seasons with the team. By the way, I feel like we were, do we get like a whole segment about how right? I don't even have an opinion on her next two stories. I'm exhausted. I need to take a breath.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I can't even believe where Aaron went. Like he went crazy town. It's really... He went Kyrie. He went nuttown. Crazy town. It's disappointing because here's the thing. We all have these platforms, right?
Starting point is 00:32:40 And I personally believe you have a responsibility when you have a platform to, not just to yourself and what you believe in, but what people will listen to and what people will do based off of what you say. So when you say things like this, you enable people. And look, this can be your opinion. But it just, you literally said you're not going to follow the rules because you don't believe in them. Jesus. That's what crazy guy does on the Reddit board. And I'm just, go ahead. You dear are two stories. I'm out. I can't. Anyway, Odell is done in Cleveland. And Andrew Barry announced in a statement that after careful consideration that the team decided it was in the best interest of all parties that O'Dell no longer played for the Cleveland Browns. So now he heads to
Starting point is 00:33:27 waivers. So this is where it gets a little bit complicated. So he has to clear waivers before being able to choose his own free agency destination. So someone can claim him off waivers. And here is the current waiver wire order. Detroit, Miami, Houston, Jacksonville, Jets, Giants, Washington, Philadelphia, Seattle, Chicago. Those are the, that's the order for the current waivers. He has to clear them. The 10 teams with the most cap space are Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Denver, Seattle, Carolina, Chargers, Pittsburgh, Washington, Cleveland, and Cincinnati. So I know I just threw a bunch of stuff out there, but basically Jacksonville would be the first team that would have enough money. I'm sorry, yes, Jacksonville would be the first team to have enough money and within
Starting point is 00:34:11 the waiver wire space to claim him. I don't know that Jacksonville will do that. But that is the current situation for O'Dow. So some news on the NBA front with the Ben Cs, Simmons situation. The Sixers reportedly find Ben Simmons, his $360,000 game salary after missing last night's game against the Pistons. This has been an ongoing kind of flexible situation. And they plan on continuing to find him. They had stopped finding him because he was working with the team doctors for his mental health situation and for his back. But he is not cooperating on the mental health front. So they are going to plan on continuing him until he cooperates with the team physicians on his mental health issues
Starting point is 00:34:51 and fulfills his other basketball-related obligations. According to Woj, the team believes they've been supportive of Ben Simmons, but have been left no choice to resume finding him because he's not providing basic details on his course of treatments or to accept consultations with any specialist arranged by the team. That feels like it's in the crosshairs of the woke mob. Oh, I just said that. It makes no sense like Aaron. I just, from now on, I'm going to do an Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I'm in the crosshairs of the woke mob. You mean the NFL, which would like you to take, is the NFL woke? I don't know. Is the Players Association which agreed to these protocols? Are they woke? I don't care how condescending I sound. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I mean, literally saying the woke mob, well, the NFL Players Association and the League agreed to these are they woke? Does the woke mob have robes? That's a great question. Can you get a woke mo? I feel like you can graduate like you get from like a pin to like a hat. It's a very exclusive club that exists somewhere.
Starting point is 00:35:53 The fact that you just throw it out there, like we all know that there are moments that you can see some of, you know, we can have discussions about stuff. To just throw the woke mob out, when the league and the players agreed to this, these protocols, is that? You know, it's really disappointing because we're, you know, obviously being very condescending about this as we should be,
Starting point is 00:36:17 but this is a serious situation. And the NFL got through the season last year in tremendous fashion, dealing with unprecedented amounts of players being out with COVID. They put an unbelievable amount of protocols, poured millions into testing. Millions? I would say 100 million. Yes, everything that they could do to make it as safe as possible for players to come back and get the league in.
Starting point is 00:36:46 They did it without fans. All of these leagues did such a tremendous job to keep players safe, to keep coaches safe, by the way, who are not all young and healthy, but are working in your building. So is the rest of the staff that's in the building with you, the people that clean the building that you're in. There are so many people that you come in contact with that are not young players. Right. Old coaches, old staff. That are vulnerable, who might have vulnerable people at home. And people have died and are dying from this virus.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It's not a conspiracy. So to get up here and talk about all these things and woke mob and cancel culture and all this stuff that doesn't exist. But in the abstract, when you really take all the political nature of it all out, everyone from every side is telling you to do the same thing. So there is no woke mob agenda here. Okay, I don't get a check from someone to talk about this. I promise you. All right, Joy with the news. Well, that's the news.
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Starting point is 00:38:13 Along with my fellow Pro Bowler, T.J. Hushman Zada, and Super Bowl. Bowl champion. Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris. You can only name a show with that type of talent on it. Up on Game. We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up On Game with me, LaVar Arrington, T.J. Hushmanzada, and Plexico Burris on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast from. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments
Starting point is 00:39:46 in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me
Starting point is 00:40:01 or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, Follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan,
Starting point is 00:40:21 so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill
Starting point is 00:41:11 waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so... Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes, I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years. from black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, Prince of Mogamora was a Super Bowl champ with the Giants, nine years in the NFL over half his career with New York. He played with OBJ for a couple of years. Played 113 NFL games, started 99 of them.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And he is joining us from Arizona. Good place to be. So let me ask you about this. some players, we always use the term, some guys can get a little hot, they're emotional, that's their personality, it's who they are. I mean, this is a very emotional game in the NFL. Odell's dad puts out a video. It's not what I would have done calling out my quarterback, but, you know, it happened.
Starting point is 00:42:24 What did you make of the video? Do you, when you saw his dad put 11-minute video out, what was your initial reaction, Prince, to that? I didn't see the video. I didn't see the video, but I've heard a lot about it. And just like you said, this game is full of emotions, and you have a dad in Odell who's super supportive of his son. And so, I mean, I can't speak on a video because I didn't see it, but hopefully there was no ill intent with the video.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Do you think, Prince, is it possible that this was never going to work? You know, I mean, it's an unstable franchise. and, you know, he had success in New York early when it's a more stable franchise with Coughlin. Why do you think it didn't work? That's a tough question. I mean, outside looking in, O'Dell's in Alpha, and I feel like a lot of receivers, right, I mean, the team could win, but if the receiver isn't getting their touches, it's not a good game. And so playing with O'Dell, I know he's a team player. he's always happy about everyone else's success. But just from what I've been looking, looking at
Starting point is 00:43:43 and stuff like that, he's not, he's open. I guess it's more of a fact that he's open, it seems like, and he's not getting the ball. And so for that reason, that relationship isn't working. But in the offseason, I've seen him and Baker, you know, be together and have a great time together. So it's, I mean, it's unfortunate that that didn't work out. Is there a place that he would work? I think he would work in a place with structure. If you took them to New England, they don't have an over-the-top receiver. I think some players, Prince, they do need better structure. Some guys can walk into dysfunction, and they're fine. It doesn't matter. Some guys need structure. They're better served.
Starting point is 00:44:22 New England feels like it would work to me. Is there a place you think he would work? There's a couple. For sure, the Packers, I believe, just with Aaron and Aaron getting the ball. to his playmakers. And they need, I feel like they need another receiver on the other side of Devonte. Yeah. And with the unfortunate situation of, that happened in Las Vegas, I think the Raiders wouldn't be a bad spot either. I got to ask you, when you look, you played with the Bears for a few years, actually, three. And I've said before, I think Justin Fields is talented.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I do have questions about the Bears front office. They've been trying to rebuild that O-line for four years. It's still a mess to me. What do you see with Justin Fields that encourages you? Do you see growth so far? 100%. I mean, from growing from that game when he played against the Browns, right, I think it was eight plus sacks.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And then also the Tampa Bay game, which wasn't such a great game with the turnovers. I think, but what we saw against the Raiders and games after that, I think he's showing growth. And I think Nagy, I mean, I've heard a lot of naysayers on Nagy's play calling, but I feel like Nagy's an awesome play caller. And Ryan Pace and those guys in the front office, I mean, this is biased, but I really believe that they're doing a great job up there. So I think the Justin Fields, the Justin Fields, the Justin.
Starting point is 00:46:05 field situation. I think it's going to be a good situation for the Bears. You know, a question I've got to ask you here. We've got about three minutes left is Daniel Jones. Last two games has had a passer rating over 95. New York is impatient. It's not a very good offensive line. What do you make of Daniel Jones if you had to predict that it would work or not work? What do you see with them that you like? Are there things that concern you about the Giants young quarterback, Prince? I mean, obviously as a quarterback, the number one job is to take care of the ball, right? Like, don't throw interceptions, don't give up fumbles. And I feel like he's been pretty solid with that. He's improved in that aspect. Yeah. But the thing is, he just never had
Starting point is 00:46:47 a healthy core. Like, we've never, we haven't seen him with a healthy sacron, a healthy Kenny Galladay, a healthy Sterling, like, a healthy Slayton. Like, we haven't seen him with like a healthy core. And we know football is the next. man up mentality, but I just feel, and he's still been in those games, like, even against, even against the Redskins and other, and other teams, like, he, they're still in games with him, with him playing with who he has. And so, um, I feel like as soon as he gets a healthy core around him, I mean, he's got to be, he's going to be successful. Like, he definitely has that grit. He's not afraid to tuck it down and, you know, and get those yards.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Uh, but again, like I said, the, the quarterback's number one job is to take care of the ball. Prince, Amokamara, Super Bowl champ, now living in Arizona. We appreciate you stopping by the show today. Some update on the Giants and a guy you know OBJ. Thank you so much for stopping by. Prince, appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:47:48 You bet. So I just, I can't. So Rogers on Pat McAfee's show said he's in the crosshairs of the woke mob, which I would push back on because the NFL, the CDC, our president, the Players Association have all agreed to these protocols, right? Like we all know the game. He also said people are lying about him. Well, Aaron was deceptive in the summer about vaccines. We weren't. He says, I'm not an anti-vax flat-earther. Well, he is anti-vax. He's not a flat-earther yet. He said it made no sense to me. He said,
Starting point is 00:48:26 yes, my fault for press conference violations, but it's only the only protocol he's broken because the press conference rules he said make no sense to me to that i would say i don't understand i mean i wear a mask i do not understand wearing a mask into a restaurant and then when i'm around food in an enclosed area with poor ventilation i take my mask off that doesn't make a lot of sense to me but those are the rules and because i'm not a narcissist i follow the rules i don't like wearing a mask as joy said she's beautiful this is she's we're taking away great years of joy's face this is very unfortunate. But there's a lot of rules. I don't always like driving 55, but I know it's dangerous if I go too fast. I hate wearing the mask. But I do because there are certain protocols
Starting point is 00:49:14 that I follow and I want to lubricate society, not be above it and agitate it. So he's basically saying, you guys are lying about me. You lied. This stuff made no sense to me. It doesn't make sense wearing masks for a lot of us. We still do it. And oh, by the way, it's just I'm in the crosshairs of the woke mob, which makes no sense because the woke mob is like the far left leaning media, I think, and the NFL is not far left leaning or media, and they came up with the protocol. So I'm lost on all this, and it's kind of embarrassing, in my opinion, but Aaron won't play Sunday against the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:49:52 That is not a lie. That is happening. So we've got a lively last hour coming up. Leroy Butler Packers, it's the herd. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
Starting point is 00:50:11 help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app. or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:51:13 and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I mean, it was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:51:33 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes,
Starting point is 00:51:53 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This is an IHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

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