The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 2 - Serena, Seahawks, CFB

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

Serena Williams wins again at the US Open State of the Seahawks post Russell Wilson The end of CFB as we know it   Guest: Patrick McEnroe   #douggottliebshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And however you may be making this part of your day, thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlie. In for Colin Cowherd. Special treat for you this hour. Patrick McEnroe is going to join us. Longtime tennis commentator at ESPN. You know, it's really interesting. I have a question for you.

And it relates to last night, believe it or not. Do you know who the heavyweight champion of the world is? This is a real, real question. Do you know who the heavyweight champion of the world is? And I ask it because not to be smart or swarmy or whatever, but like, do you know who the IBF, the WBA, right? Do you know who the world champion is? Because I think you know the WBC is Tyson Fury, right?

But isn't it Alexander, like, Usik, right? that the guy's name? He beat Anthony Joshua? And the only reason I point this out is that, with the exception of Tyson Fury, obviously, he's kind of grabbed our attention because of what he did to Wilder, the hype around that fight, the whole presentation of it.

There was a long time there where no one knew. You could even ask people like, they didn't know who the hell the heavyweight, every way champion of the world is. Well, the same thing I think happened going back to last night. Last night, Serena Williams ends up getting a dramatic, dramatic win in three sets in what will be her last professional tennis tournament. She's going to retire.

Tiger Woods was there. Dionne Warwick was there. There was a list of stars. And she was playing the number two ranked player in the world. And I'm telling you, if you would have asked anybody who wasn't like hardcore tennis fan, you're like, she's number two playing in world. I have no idea of that is. I don't know who that person is.

Serena, when she leaves the wake, when she is out of this tournament, when she is out of the sport, will be, it's frankly like when Tiger Woods hasn't played golf and what the future of the PGA tour looks like without Tiger. Obviously, there's other challenges to the PGA tour. But that was incredible. It was incredible. Not just the fact that she won, but she beat a player in her prime in three sets in front of that sort of incredible atmosphere at Arthur Ash Stadium. And the other part to it is it's like a different sport.

I don't care how accomplished you are as a tennis player. I don't care how many majors you've even won. Playing Serena Williams in New York City in what could be her last match. Like that's an atmosphere. Now you don't forget, but there's really hard to prepare for. It's just, it's got to be challenging. And then there's the whole thought. if you go to, like Serena plays again tomorrow night.

If you go, well, on some level, you want her to lose just because you want to be able to tell, I was there last match. It was incredible. Oh, she was amazing. On the other hand, you wanted to win because, well, she's American and she's Serena, and you want to see the greats play their greats. You want to see that. Remember Jimmy Connors?

What year is that that Jimmy Connors made her run at the U.S. Open? But man, what a night last night in New York. And the thing about tennis is, we don't talk about it often in sports. I've been doing this 20 years. I can count on probably two hands of times. I've actually mentioned tennis. But it is, I mean, it is like a two-person fight in a Roman Coliseum just with rackets and a ball instead of their fists.

It's awesome. When it's good, it's really, really good. Last night it was really, really good. Really good. The Mets won two to one. DeGrom to Edwin Diaz, good night, drive home safely. Drive home safely. You know, Mookie Betz of the Dodgers said that DeGrom might be the best to ever pitch.

That's what he literally wrote. But even that paled in comparison to across the street what Serena was able to do. Patrick McEnroe joins us, of course, tennis players' own right, long-time tennis commentator for ESPN. And Patrick, there's been incredible nights in Florida. blushing, right? We've, Agassi and his comeback. Jimmy Conner's in his 40s, you know, riling up the crowd. How would you characterize last night? Well, first of all, Doug, great to be on with you, a big fan of yours for many years. Excuse me for breathing a little heavily. I just

had to walk the final mile off the Grand Central Parkway to get into the site because the traffic is so backed up, which is another story. But as you were pontificating on the Mets and, of course, on Serena, as you said, I've been lucky enough to be in that stadium for some of the all-time matches in U.S. Open history. Pete versus Andre, Serena Capriotti, Serena, Venus, you know, back in the heyday when they were both at the top, Djokovic against Federer, Federer, you know, against anybody, etc. I've never heard anything like I heard last night inside that stadium as far as the crowd reaction

went. Absolutely incredible. You'd think it was the final. You know, remember when Serena was going for the slam that one year she lost in the semi-final that was electric. But this is like nothing else, I think because Doug, you know, when we see the all-time

greats take the last exit, you know, the swan song, whether it's Muhammad Ali, and of course there were I think there are concerns from those of us in the tennis world on that opening night that, uh, is this going to be sort of a Muhammad Ali moment, well past his prime, past Serena's prime, uh, Michael Jordan, you know, at the end of his career with the Wizards. Um, and somehow Serena last night, you know, after getting through the opening round, uh, played a high quality player who was playing well.

Um, and it was a high quality match. And she turned back the clock in a lot of ways, particularly in that final set, which was some vintage Serena off the serve and powerful on the returns. But the most important thing, Doug, was her movement was absolutely amazing when you consider where she's been the last couple of months to all of a sudden, you know, flip the switch the way she did was remarkable. And now, of course, we're all thinking, could this actually happen? could she actually go all the way? Then the question, it obviously makes you think, makes you win her, because now she becomes like the number two seed, right? Like that becomes, you beat the two seed,

you become the two seed. But I would think that her next match is the most difficult because all of the emotional and physical energy spent last night, like today is a recovery day, and now you got to go and do it again. Yeah, I think that's the X-fact. I think you're right. You know, and I don't think it's so much the physical side,

because, again, you know, Serena's one of the all-time great athletes we've ever seen and we saw signs of that last night. But I think the emotional part of it is the toughest part. And then you take into account because she's got to come back out here again today. She's got to fight that traffic. She's got to deal with the press. She's got to deal with the expectation. She's got to deal with walking out there yet again with the crowd and her sister.

you know, they've had some amazing, I mean, they're 14 and O, Doug, in Grand Flam finals, in doubles, okay, they've never lost in the final of a doubles tournament in the major. And now they're going to go after, this is the first time in history, by the way, that a first round doubles match will be played at Ash Stadium at night. I mean, that's how big the buzz is right now. So I think there is some concern on that front, but, you know, probably Serena, when she decided to enter the doubles with her sister, were thinking, oh, you know, we'll see what happens.

Maybe I'll win a round or two. And, you know, it might be fun to play with my big sister in doubles as well. So I kind of wonder what happens tonight if she wins tonight in the doubles. And then, you know, she's got Tom Yanovitch who's a tough player in the next round. But as you said, beating the number two seed, you now start to look ahead. And you start to think, wait a second, actually, who's in my way? I could actually legitimately make a case that Serena can make a run to be in the quarter. Emmys and actually win this thing.

Yeah, it's amazing that entering the doubles may end up being the thing that takes her down is just too much tennis because she didn't think she'd perform as well in singles. Patrick McRoe, ESPN-10 on analysts, joining us. I'm Doug Ghalybin for Colin. This is the Hurd on Fox Sports Trade in the IHeart radio app. You mentioned the great moments at Arthur Ashe Stadium that you've been there for. But Tiger Woods in her box cheering for her? Like this, it felt like, it felt like a new level of royalty in a sport which has so often been supported by royalty.

Yeah, I think, I think it's interesting. And Serena's become royalty. And she and her sister crashed a party, you know, as young African-American girls coming from Compton, California in a traditionally, let's be honest, white sport. And they've just changed the complexion of the sport in every way. I mean, on the court with the power game, the athleticism. the feciness, and you're seeing that from players of all backgrounds. You know, that's affected just the way the game is played between the lines in this next couple of generations that have come along, and here's Serena still battling against them.

And I think what's cool about this is you're seeing other young African-American, particularly women like Sloan Stevens, who's playing now, Madison Keyes, you know, they played in a final in 2017. Then you've got the Robin Montgomery, who's an up-and-comer, and of course, Cocoa, who could actually win this tournament too, with how well she's looking, that they've inspired these people to come and get into the sport. But I think what makes this so special, this moment, this run, is that Serena's been vulnerable, right?

You know, and she hasn't been afraid to put it out there, you know, when she came to Wimbledon and she looks slow, she looked old, let's be honest. And you see her struggling and you see her fighting and competing and not afraid to show that. And a lot of players, you know, at her level would say, you know, I'm not going to put myself in that position where I've got to do that. I've got to dig that deep just to compete at this level. But she's doing it. And I think that's part of the reason why the crowd is responding the way they're responding because it's like, wow, you're seeing it. I mean, we've always known she's a great competitor. That's obvious. But to see her really have to scrap and claw in the first

couple of rounds of a major just to stay alive is pretty awesome that she's put herself in this position. I think that's what the fans are responding to. Now, that being said, Doug, I would like to, you know, I'm a New Yorker. I'm a huge New York sports fan. I've been to a lot of big events lucky enough to have been over the course of my life. I'd like to see the New York friend, a fan give her opponent, whomever that is, a little bit more respect, a little more love, you know, clap when they hit a great shot. Don't double fault. I mean, don't clap when they double fault. I mean, get into it for Serena. I get that. But come on, let's show a little bit of class for the opposition as well.

on Pat, it's New York. They're not doing that. It's not your first time in New York, right? It's New York. Yeah, I like the, like, you know, that that didn't happen. How, this feels like a, I don't know, a seminal moment. It does feel really important to women's tennis, just because, you know, you go back

a decade ago and women's tennis and many levels more popular than men's tennis. Now you can't name, most people on the street couldn't name anybody in the top five. let alone top 10, right? And it feels like this is, this is a moment for tennis to show their best. Well, there's no doubt. And I mean, the ratings for us at ESPN have showed that. They've been through the route, which has been remarkable.

On the ticket sales here at the open, even before the tournament, they were outstanding. But now they've gone to a whole other level. But you're right. It's bringing the casual fan, the sports fan, into tennis, into this year's U.S. Open. And it's allowing some of the up. and coming players to say, hey, you know, look at me, look at Coco Gop here.

Obviously, she moves the needle in a big way, but other players as well. So very important. I think Serena herself knew that coming in, which I think is part of the reason she agreed to do it this way, where she announced it herself through her vogue cover shot on Instagram, you know, before the tournament, because she knew this was going to be a circus, right? It's going to be a zoo. And guess what? She's delivered.

I mean, to actually go through that, to have all those expectations. all that attention, and then to actually have to go on the court by yourself. You're all alone. You're in front of 24,000 people live and a huge audience on TV, and you're the great Serena Williams, and you've got to put yourself out there one more time. And, you know, she's eating it up. She loves the moment. She said last night to our Mary Jo Fernandez after the match, which is, she said, well, I'm

Serena. I mean, you know, I'm sure. Don't forget, I'm Serena. I know how to play this game. So it's been amazing to see, and the crowds have responded in full force, and it's a huge jolt for not just women's tennis, for tennis, period. Agreed. Well, enjoy fighting that traffic.

I know it's hot this weekend as well. Enjoy the open. It's an, it's interesting. I got my steps in, and I got a mile of steps in to get it, make sure I'm here in time, and I'll be calling the next match with Carlos Alcara, speaking of young, up-in-comers, and then Raphael Nadell tonight. So I got a full day ahead of me looking forward to it. All right, we'll hear you on the call of Rafa tonight.

Thanks so much for joining us, Pat. You guys, take care of Doug. All right, it's Patrick McEnroe, joining us, long-time tennis commentator. Of course, the tennis player in his own right. You know, part of what, you know, he talked about, which is interesting, it's kind of like the Duke effect, the Bama effect or whatever, you know, the Serena effect, the Tiger effect, where everyone thinks that they want to play in those games, right? the main gym games.

You know, and it's great to have all that attention. It's great to have the buzz. But then you live it, and the benefit that Serena has is, this has kind of been her life for 20 years. She's always been on the main court. She's always played at 7 o'clock. She's always had that level pressure on her. So, yeah, her body is not willing like it used to be,

but how could she possibly get flustered because this is something that she's done? and the spotlight she's performed under, as opposed to any of these other opponents? They never... This is not their normal. This is not their normal. Like Patrick said, like, well, let's cheer for the opponent.

Like, that ain't happening. No, every game's a road game when you're playing Serena Williams in New York. Coming up next. Russell Wilson signed a gigantic extension today. Can we talk about his former team and what they're doing? Let's get to that next in the herd.

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Penn State was not. They just, the whole football world, and for Penn State, at Purdue, Ohio, you, then at Auburn to start their season. I mean, good luck. Good luck. Speaking of football,

you know, there's the state of the Seahawks, which is fascinating. And many people believe that one of the reasons that the Niners chose to resign Jimmy Garoppelow for $6.5 million instead of his $29 million he was going to make, which is the highest salary for a backup quarterback this year in the NFL.

At least part of it was keeping away from the Seahawks. I don't know if the Seahawks really value Garapolo, but if it's throwing a million more into the kitty and you'll get to keep your guy and you don't have to worry about him sharing trade secrets with your rival in the Emerald City. It makes sense on some level. But I want you to think about it for a second. sometimes you got to see the handwriting on the wall.

Like our run is done. We got to hit refresh. We got to start all over. And you can, if you want to, you're absolutely allowed to be critical of the decisions that Pete Carroll has made, that the front office has made over the years in terms of offensive line, in terms of draft. and how they've done things. You tried to replace the Legion of Boom to some limited success. Like, look, the Seahawks, just look at the record over the last, since Pete Carroll got there. Since he got there.

You know, first year, terrible division, if you remember, and they went to the playoffs despite seven wins, seven wins, seven wins, 11, 13, 12, 10, 10, 9, 10, 11, 12, last year, 7. and tech. And the way to rebuild your roster, it's no secret. You can't rebuild a roster when you got a quarterback making $40 million a year. You just can't. Everyone who's rebuilt their roster has executed some form of similar game plan where you have either a year in which, whether you tank or you don't spend a bunch on the quarterback position, or you have a rookie start. preferably a rookie who wasn't drafted in the first round, but a rookie start. And then once you have a quarterback who's a starting caliber quarterback on a rookie contract,

that's when you can load up the rest of your roster. Like the Chiefs were good, and part of it is Mahomes is better than Alex Smith, but part of it is that Mahomes during the first couple years his contract wasn't making a lot of money, so they could spend other places. The Niners had this going for them. Even though, you know, even though they had to give Garapolo a new deal, the Niners benefited from previous to that having inexpensive quarterback play. And then, of course, Garapolo goes down during his first full years of starter.

And if not for that injury, you know, they wouldn't have Nick Bosa. And, I mean, frankly, not only wouldn't have Nick Bosa, but take a look at who they took in the second round, same year. Dibo Samuel. So you have to draft well, but you also, if you want to rebuild a roster, because remember, drafting first round, about a 60, 66% hit rate, second round, 50% hit rate. Free agency is like a 33% hit rate. These are not my stats. These are the NFL guy's stats.

So I don't know how Seattle ends up executing the plan, but the plan for rebuilding generally is when you're not good and you have a viable asset who wants to be paid at the top of the market, Russell Wilson, look at the Raiders and trade away Khalil Mack and you kind of go, you can go through it. In many ways, the smartest thing to do is trade away that asset, take it on the chin for a year, begin the process anew, and then if you can get a young quarterback, now you have to nail whichever quarterback you take, but if you can get the right quarterback and have him starting on that rookie deal, that's when you can load up their roster. Arizona, it took them two rookie quarterback, two years in row, but they finally got it right.

And they had, you know, three years of on a rookie scale. Obviously now, Kyler Murray has an extension on the back end of his rookie contract. But that allowed them to make the DeAndre Hopkins trade, give him a new contract. That allowed them to even go and get J.J. Watt. You got extra money to spend. So, like, do I love it for Seattle what they're likely to go through this year in that division where you have the Rams, the Niners are loaded? Seattle's found a way to be competitive even when they're not a great team. But it's pretty obvious they need to refresh.

And they also knew what Russell was going to command whether he stayed or whether he left and he didn't want to be there because he knew, I'm sure he knew they needed a refresh. That's the state of the Seahawks. Let's get to rhyme music with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Doug, it's that time of the year, so we're just going to keep it rolling with all sorts of other NFL news and nuggets. One of the most interesting teams for this upcoming season is the Miami Dolphins, mostly due to a quarterback to Tonga Vailoa.

Spent the first two years of his career trying to earn the starting position but never really holding it, as well as the constant rumors about trying to replace him with either the likes of a Deshawn Watson or, as we learned more recently, perhaps a Tom Brady. Now, it appears they're all in on Tua. And this just came in, not too long ago. He's been selected as captain for the first time by his teammates. His rookie year, that seemed to make some sense why he wouldn't be captain coming off injury.

They weren't even sure how healthy he'd be to start the season. Then it raised some eyesbrows last year as a second QB and most people expecting him to be at least competing for a starting job, perhaps being the full-time starter. But here we are. It didn't happen. And it finally happened now in his third year under the Miami Dolphins and new head coach, Mike McDaniels. They finally seem to be all the way in on Tuatunga Vailoa. Do you buy that? Um, what do you mean? Do I buy that they're all in on him? Yeah. For the 2022 season, yes, I buy that they are all.

all in on Tua. Do I buy that they're all in on him anything beyond this year? Absolutely not. Agreed. We agree. We agree on both. You know, like, look, there's enough rumors that they wanted Tom Brady and previous to that they wanted Deshawn Watson where there's enough people who, and, you know, there's enough people saying he ain't got it. He ain't got it. But he has a guy who's regarded as a brilliant mind. He has a ton of weaponry. He has a division in which, you know, they have better personnel than the Jets, and they likely have better personnel than the Patriots. Offensively, for sure.

For sure. So, I mean, you look at it, this, if you can't perform now in that system, and again, it's part of that Shanahan system, which takes a lot of pressure out of the quarterback, then you don't have it. I don't, the, he's a team captain. I don't know. Like, look, he's been through the ringer a little bit, you know? They played him, they didn't play him.

I thought he should have taken an entire year coming off of that hip injury, that playing him too early. It exposed his flaws. But part of the reason he hurt his hip was because he tried to run away from college players and got tackled. I don't know how he runs away from pros. So Miami keeps trying to convince us how much they love him and how good he is. And I just, I struggle to buy in. they're not totally bought in, no matter what they tell you, how much he's the captain,

how many deep throws they show you on social media to prove, oh, no, he can really throw when you're like, yeah, that ball died at 50 yards. And I don't know if you can use to, I don't know if you get the full benefit of Tyree Kill. Playing with two of Tongomboilo. Yeah, a few more things. I saw this from Michael Lombardi, a former executive with the Patriots, spent a lot of time in the NFL. He pointed out his criticisms of the Dolphins is,

I don't think you've ever seen a single player get such a strong PR campaign from a team over the course of one preseason. He said that. I've never seen anything like it in all this time in the NFL to see such a push for a single player from the team. And also to your point. It's like they're covering for something. No, absolutely. Because they wanted Deshawn Watson and then they wanted Tom Brady. They wanted Tom Brady, then Deshawn Watson, then Tom Brady.

Like, they're covering, it's all CYA. Yep, absolutely. And then to your point about getting the most out of Tyree Kill on the roster that they have, the one thing that the dolphins, whether it's intentional or not, but what you could see from the outside that they've done a great job of is, we're going all in to see what we can get out of Tua this year and if he shows us enough to buy in going forward. If not, whatever quarterbacks, be it the draft or perhaps,

perhaps, you know, another Russell Wilson type of situation where a guy wants out or wherever in the quarterback market, you're going to be able to acquire someone and put him into a situation where they've got some serious players. They got a left tackle. They got two wide receivers. They got a great offensive play caller. So it's almost like a, ironically, Tom Brady in Tampa Bay. They seem to have all the pieces there.

You just don't seem to be completely sold on the quarterback. So as soon as you can find the right piece to fit into that situation. whether it's next off season or the following, you're going to have a real team to play with. And speaking of Brady... By the way, how were they able to build that team? Rookie quarterback. Well, I mean, I guess also cheap quarterback

because they were paying Fitzpatrick before that. Certainly not top of the market. Speaking of Brady, perhaps the most interesting story of training camp besides the Tua PR campaign, was his 11-day absence. It initially caught everyone by surprise, but it was explained away by the Buccaneers

as an excused absence. that was communicated beforehand. He had a note. He had a note, yes. Got that parent signature. Tommy won't be participating in practice. He's got asthma. He's got a pre-planned vacation with Giselle.

Yeah, that one could not be rescheduled. Well, broadcaster, Hall of Famer, former Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman, was asked about Brady on the Marshan and Oran podcast. Here's what he had to say about Brady and the training camp absence. There's not a more team-oriented guy than Tom Brady.

I mean, there's just not. There's a reason why he is won the way that he has. He gets it. I mean, he knows what it takes to not only play at a high level, but also then create a culture within an organization on what exactly it takes to win. So never would I question anything Tom Brady does as to how that may or may not detract from the goal of a football team.

No big deal, according to Troy Aikman. Like, look, all these parts run contradictory to what they've said. It's all about team. He's all about preparation. He wasn't there for 11 days in his offense. And then you hear people say, you know, the thing about Brady is, even when he's not playing, like, he pushes you. You know, he really, he's the guy who's really, you bring, he bring, he's the rising tide that lifts all ships. Because he's Tom Brady.

And then he's not there? I'll give you an example. I moved to Southern California, my family moved in 1981. And my dad was the assistant coach to Tex winner. People remember Tex winner, the triangle offense? Okay, so he used to be a college coach, obviously famously at Kansas State two final fours.

And it was the triple post before it was called the triangle. It basically changed in it. And I remember my dad telling me, this is years later, He used the assistant coach to 81 to 84. And I said, what was it like to coach with Tex winner? Incredible coach. He was like, incredible. This offense breakdown drills.

What people don't know about the triangle or the triple post is, the basics of is perfect spacing, 15 to 18 feet. You never end every drill that Tex winner implements, stretching, loosening up, cutting, catching, passing, everything. It's all 15 to 18 foot spacing. I was with the Lakers in the Summer League. Same thing. So you just get programmed to stay away from your teammate unless there's some sort of action which determines you should be there. It's all about spacing.

I said, well, why don't you win more? That's it. Well, he would leave practice when we'd do defense. What do you mean he'd leave practice? He would get his car and he would go home. Tax was over for him. He just cared about offense. Go back and look.

The reason they lost at Long Beach State wasn't they had Craig Hodges, they had Mark Zino, they had some really good players. They couldn't guard anybody. So if the chief isn't there when you're going through defense, you're not going to be a good defensive team. If the guy for your offense, it's his offense, isn't there when you're practicing offense, you're not going to be as good. So I understand what Troy is saying.

Like, look, I'm not going to question Brady. He's got to do what he's got to do. He's 45 years old. You made your deal to bring him back. And he probably had some look, man, I got to take this vacation. I got to go with Giselle. I got some things to do. All right.

But please don't tell me that's in the best interest of the team because that one's just a sale. not going to buy. In the words of Brady himself, I'm 45, man. I got a lot of stuff going on. Now, look, it's, I think, look, based off of what we saw from Tom Brady last season, physically speaking, and he's even mentioned this in an interview with Dan Patrick, physically speaking, I think his body is able to continue to perform at the level that he needs

to go. This isn't a situation with like a Philip Rivers or other, you know, Peyton Manning, where the physical body has broken down to a point to where you're like, those guys cannot play anymore. But it's the rest. It's, I'm sure, dealing with guys half your age in the locker room. Sure. You got wife, you got kids, his wife, they got more money than they can spend.

And, I mean, like, look, going to work when you told your wife you weren't going to work anymore, and you probably gave her a, like, it's a two-year thing in Tampa, and then I'm done. Now I want to go back. Good luck with that one. Yeah, and I think there was a lot that happened with the way. that the retirement, maybe the reporting, which his dad, Tom Brady Sr. had mentioned he got sort of backed into a corner with the Jeff Darlington and then he felt like he needed to address it. So he said I'm retired. But maybe he didn't actually feel like he was retired.

There's a lot there. I think the Bucks will still be a really good team. I just don't know. It's very clear that Brady is no longer that it is all in on a pursuit of the Super Bowl. And that's the only thing that matters. and it clearly makes sense at 45 years old. And that's right, music with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News.

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You know, one of the things you try and tell your kids is to, you know, enjoy childhood, right? Like, we do, we pay a ton of attention and rightfully so to our kids, their mental health, and their upbringing, school, and if they're happy, it's really interesting, right? Like when we were kids, did your parents ever ask you if you were happy? Hi, Doug. How was school today? Are you happy? How are you emotionally feeling?

But now you find yourself really one to lock in and have those conversations with your kids. It's a completely different approach to parenting and to growing up. And one of the things that I try and tell my kids, and I'm sure you guys do too, or you just tell younger people, it's like, hey, just, you know, appreciate today because you're, you're, not getting it back once it's gone. And you think back to your own childhood. Right? Think back to your own childhood.

Like, I remember kids are going back to school. I know some of my friends in Connecticut, they just started school yesterday the day before. And, you know, I didn't particularly enjoy school. And I probably shouldn't have told that to my kids when they were young. Dad, did you like school? Like, no, I did not like school. I didn't. But I liked the first day, right?

Like the first day. And I like the fact that, and when school was out, like you don't see your friends every day. there's just a rhythm to it. It's a little bit too long. It's a little bit too early. It's a little bit too archaic. It's a little bit, all that stuff. But generally, like, you know, you look back.

You're like, you know, school wasn't that bad. Wasn't that bad? And there's a lot of other stuff that came with it, which were cool. I say it because we try and tell kids to appreciate today. Because tomorrow, when you get older, you become an adult. It's just not the same. it's not as much fun. I don't care how financially successful you are.

If you were to ask somebody, hey man, all right, here's the deal. You got to trade in everything you got, but you can go and hit reset and be a, pick a year, college, high school, would you do it? Would you do it?

Ryan Music, would you do it? Like, you're married now. You have a really good job. But if I said, hey, I'm going to give you a do-over, let you go to your junior, in high school. Would you do it? No, I think I'm good.

Wouldn't do a redo. I feel good with how things turned out personally. Things turned out great. Things turned out great. Could they turn out better? I don't know. Look, I bring it up, and this may be a far-feel way of getting up, because I think tonight is a night in which you got Penn State taking on Purdue. You got Oklahoma State, Milaminer on FS1 taken on Central Michigan. You got some other good college football game.

A big week. I think you should probably appreciate college football this year because the change, which has already started, is going to be dramatic, likely by next year. You know, in our lifetime, the Rose Bowl has always been the Big Ten versus the Pac-10, right? And then the Big Ten versus the Pac-12 when it changed the Pac-12.

Well, that's done. It doesn't mean the Rose Bowl won't host an important game. But that's done. The old Big Ten champion. And I know that since the BCS and Big Ten teams and you didn't necessarily have the Big Ten champion or the Pac-12 champion or whatever, but that is the granddaddy of them all is going to go through a dramatic change because I don't even know if the Pac-10 is going to exist anymore, let alone a game to celebrate the victors of each league.

Done. You know, my own model model, Oklahoma State going to take on Oklahoma in November. I think it's the 19th in Norman. they played uninterrupted for like 100 years. They ain't playing once Oklahoma leaves for the SEC. They may bring it back if they can make it financially profitable enough for Oklahoma State. I don't know. They ain't playing for a while.

Ain't happening. Like the things that you grew up, the game, like even though a lot of the teams in the SEC and the Big Ten, you're like, ah, we're just going to keep on, keep it on. That whole rhythm of who you play, it's already changed some. It's going to change dramatically. going to change dramatically. Recruiting classes won't be celebrated as much as kids coming out of the portal, right? Why would I recruit a kid and promise him a bunch of NIL money when I can't win with him playing early? And if he doesn't play enough, he's going to leave anyway. It's better to come

in second place. You know, UCLA Cal, same UC system. I ain't going to play. Unless they were to add those two schools, they're not going to play. No chance. Zero. to UCLA and basketball. Like, we don't even get to basketball. Just get to the fact that you got 100-year rivalries. And even though things have changed and Nebraska left the big eight or then big 12 for the big 10, like you've had a one-off. I'm talking dramatic sea change.

Coming. The college fall playoff committee is going to meet, likely going to expand. That's going to happen sooner than maybe people thought after coming off of last year they couldn't agree. All of these things are likely to happen next season or happening next year. Everything will look completely different. And so even though you're walking to a house that has only been updated over time, right, conferences have kind of changed.

Instead of having the bowl games and two champions, we have basically a plus one playoff system, right? That's what we have. basically what we've done is you took over an original home in the 90s was changed and tweaked and updated and starting next year they're going to gut it and it's going to look completely different. So when you walk into that home tonight go, you know, there's a lot of screwed up things about college football.

Dual national champions, what is that? No playoff. A lot of weird scheduling stuff. But it's been a really cool 100-year run. you might want to appreciate it before it's gone. Because it's gone. It may end up being better, but it's definitely gone. Starting next year.

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