The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Special rookie QBs

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Colin looks at the 3 rookie QBs one-third of the way into the season and why it's already clear they are franchise cornerstone players. He talks to Fox Sports college football analyst Joel Klatt about Ohio State coming up short against another top-5 team and where USC is headed after another loss under head coach Lincoln RileySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Second hour, I can't control myself. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd, the Clatmeister's coming on in a couple of minutes off the biggest college football weekend of the year. We've got Texas, Georgia coming up. This is the herd. J-Mack literally last segment. lost so bad that he is sulking around the studio. I mean, it's one thing to lose the Brock Purdy argument, but to lose the way he lost the last argument,

it may sever our relationship, fissures in our friendship. I just love your blind resumes. I don't know who the genius is behind that, because you're not that vindictive to go after Aaron Rogers to that level. I mean, boy, Jared Goff, second half versus Sanf. Since 2022, Jared Goff, if you just count, his second halfs is equal to Aaron Rogers. That sums up.

But one guy's got a lot of sizzle. One guy's got no sizzle. Both have some steak, but Jared Goff's all stake. I mean, that since 2022, that includes a Matt LaFleure year. So you can keep trying to tell me Goff isn't the guy and Rogers is still, no, that's not what's happening here. A lot of pressure on Rogers this week in Pittsburgh. They're going to win.

Jets going to win. So I want to talk about that. So Jerry Jones, I want to talk about the Jets, because I'm, I have made a new, it's not a New Year's resolution because it's October. It's an October resolution, more positivity. We live in a very negative world. So Jerry Jones says the Cowboys will not be active at the NFL trade deadline. So the ship is sinking and Jerry's got no interest giving anybody a life preserver. So the Jets are two and four, but again, I think they're going to go on a big winning streak here.

they have an excellent running back and he just came off his best game. I think their defensive personnel's good. Devante Adams isn't going to hurt the team. They have two good receivers. And I think they start playing quarterbacks they can beat. So I think the Jets are okay. Okay.

And they went and made a move to get DeVante Adams. They're acknowledging we need some more juice here. The Jets point differential, and there's no quit when you watch the Jets. They play their ass off. There's no quit. They're playing their butts off. their point differential at 2 and 4 is plus 5.

Dallas has no run game. None. Their defense has holes all over it. Their point differential is minus 42. They're getting hosed. They're getting blown out at home. And they don't want to make any moves. So you can roll your eyes at the Jets, but they didn't spend any money.

Did Dallas in Free Agency? They're not making moves here. so it's not a lame duck coach it's a lame duck team Dallas isn't a Super Bowl team I don't think the Jets are but Garrett Wilson Devonte Adams Aaron Rogers Brees Hall O-Lines okay good defense there's some fight in the Jets the Jets are the best two and four team in the league and they're going to beat Pitchburg this weekend

Aaron's not going to play you know he whether he points at Mike Williams or not Aaron's got to play better and so I think Jerry is being intellectually dishonest and I think he was intellectually dishonest a couple days ago when he picked on these radio hosts who pushed back on Jerry on Dallas radio.

There was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add, didn't spend, and don't add, and don't spend, and are not aggressive enough. Oh, I remember those criticisms very well. Okay, so what? Are they playing out to be accurate? What's your point? What's your point?

Now, if you think I'm interested, and on a damn phone call with you over a radio. And sitting here and throwing all the good out with the dishwasher, you have got to be smoking something over there this morning. This is not your job. Your job isn't to let me go over all the reasons that I did something, and I'm sorry that I did it. That's not your job.

Well, my job is to ask what... Or I'll get another... I'll get somebody else to ask these questions, man. Yeah, well, it is actually a radio person's job to sometimes we have to make people uncomfortable. I mean, you see Clatt every week on the show. I have to push back. And with that, the voice of college football at Fox Sports,

Joel Clat, off the craziest weekend in college football. Oh, man. It was glorious. It was a great weekend, wasn't it? Man. I sat and watched start to end. Yeah, I saw your TikTok or whatever you threw out there at half of that USC game.

Was it a TikTok? Whatever you put out there, it really, no wonder you're taking shots at J-Mack this week. You had to pump yourself up after that. I mean, you took a huge L on that one. On the Lincoln Riley thing. I'm not going to get into it. Oh, interesting.

Interesting. But it should be noticed. As I was doing it. Very confidently. Very confidently. My friend Dane was laughing his butt off because I kept, and he's like, you know, if they lose and I said, I know, either way, it's fantastic.

Sometimes being smug has its benefits. Well, you were definitely smug. All right. I don't know if it has its benefits, but that's okay. So let's go to Oregon, Ohio State. Okay. Great game. Oh, so my take was, if they had to play it in a neutral field,

if they play in Columbus, Ohio State's going to win, asking kids to go into Eugene or Columbus or Georgia or Austin and play a flawless game. I had said they're going to have delay a game penalty. are going to have penalties. And they did. I'm like, Ohio State's great. These, remember, only two of Sabins nannies were undefeated.

Those losses, you go on the road, I look at Ohio State, I thought they played by and large in that environment against the great team, really well. Yeah, I thought both teams played. Like, listen, Oregon just played better. Yeah. I think that that's a fair statement.

And Oregon did things that we didn't see early in the season, and they've corrected a lot of these things that we lamented, by the way, you and I on this show. Yes. Early in the year, we talked about their offensive line, not playing very well. Guess what? They haven't given up a sack in four weeks. So that's all of a sudden changed and turned around.

Evan Stewart was nowhere to be found. He goes seven for 140, what, 143? I mean, Dylan Gabriel was a lot of short passing, point guard, distribute eight plays of 25 or more yards. I mean, like, they played phenomenal. And in a lot of ways, really probably should have been

ranked number one in the country if it weren't for the fact that Texas has just been totally dominant in their season so far and were in Red River against Oklahoma. So that's the Oregon side. And I think on the Ohio State side is frustration. The frustration being that they felt like they put themselves in a position to win the game and didn't, and didn't win the game and didn't execute down the stretch. And I know it's a frustration. I know it's a frustration for Ryan. And the thing that I'm actually most perplex about the Ohio State performance was the fact that the defense gave up so many big plays. That was the exact thing that they tried to change and did change last season.

Do you remember in 22, late in 22, when Michigan torched them for big plays, then they still got into the playoff in Georgia torched them for big plays. Both of those teams, they went for eight yards or more per play in those two games. Since then, Ohio State had really locked people up as far as the explosive plays goes defensively. And last year, they didn't have a game in which their defense gave up over five yards per play, not one game. That's right.

You know what Oregon did Saturday night? Eight and a half? Seven plus yards per play because of the explosives. And so seeing that rear its head again for Ohio State, I think that was the most worrisome aspect for the Buckeyes moving forward. Yeah, I think these are really, really, I think Texas is the best team. Ohio State looks like physically the second best team, but I think Oregon's outstanding. I will say this, that in these top five matchups, and we've seen this in our life.

I remember seeing it with the Sacramento Kings. You thought to yourself, they're too damn good not to win a championship, and they never did, and the window closed. Seahawks won a title, but it looked like a dynasty. Everybody was like 25 years old, and then it closed really quickly. And so when you get Buffalo and Baltimore, we keep saying, Lamar and John, are too good not to win Super Bowls. And they keep losing earlier than we think in the playoffs. There's a lot of teams like this.

Florida State should have won more national championships under Bobby Bowden, and the Braves should have won more World Series, you know, when they were winning all those divisions. How about Ryan Day? You're close. You play the part. You look good. You're two and six against top five teams.

Generally, when you don't win them, there's something there that's missing. It may not be... I don't know. I'm not going to follow on this. Okay. You just don't buy that. I don't because of the history of the sport. Now, maybe if we got into the specifics of what's going on with Ohio State, you know,

but the fact of the matter is, is he's putting himself and his team in position, you know, and there's something to be said for that. And then the history of the sport would suggest that guys don't win championships in their first six years as head coaches. All right, that's fair. Right? I mean, the only guys that have done that, I'm trying to think. Switzerland 1-1 early, if you remember.

He was giving them a sports car, so give me another one. That's a good one. Stoops won one in his second year. He did. Again, at OU. That's right, he did. And he had kind of brought them back, remember from the John Blake era? But my point is that it's a bit of an anomaly. Even Sabin took a long time, and his best years were 50 plus, you know, in terms of his age.

I like that. And Osborne took, I think it was 17 years to win or even more. Dabo Sweeney. Dabble was 10 years. Kirby's six years. So I think that Ryan, I think, will win a championship. So do I. And if he does so in this season or even moving forward,

that's basically right in line with what college football is and has been historically. I believe Ohio State and Oregon will play again. Ohio State will win and Ohio State will play Texas for the national championship. I thought Tennessee's offense worries me. I love their defense. Tennessee's my dark horse to win it. their quarterback is he's he's regressed unfortunately for him as a young player okay we got a lot of stuff to talk about let's do it i may at the end of this segment spend a couple of seconds on lincoln

riley let's go to georgia texas so okay you lose really you lost the first half to albama you just played you got over well yeah again it happens you know you get in a great environment like you were you know yeah this isn't the nfl where the point spread difference is one with veteran quarterbacks. I'm sorry, Drew Breeze was okay playing in Atlanta. Okay. I test Georgia does not look as powerful on the O-line.

Correct. Texas looks like the most powerful team on the O-line. Carson Beck, the kid throws dimes. Let's not say, don't quite have the same feeling I did last year, but he's still very good. Yeah. I-Test tells me, Texas is what Georgia was for about a four-year period. They look bigger and stronger. They're more complete of a team.

Okay. Georgia is still an elite team. No question. There's no doubt. But there are things that Beck is having to overcome, like an offensive line that is not completely dominant, a run game that is not totally healthy. In three of their six games this year, they've averaged under four yards per carry. Wow.

And so, like, that's not going to know. Here's what that does. In reality, what that does is it forces you into a position as an offense and more specifically as a quarterback where you're having to throw the football when you have to. versus when you want to. See, when you win the line of scrimmage and when you own the game and the tempo of the game as an offensive line, your quarterback gets to throw the ball because he wants to or the offense in general. Game changes. Play action pass. Second and short. You can really put defenders in conflict based on what you're doing in the backfield versus, hey, Carson,

you have to throw the football or else we're not going to move the ball down the field. Now, he did it very well because he's a talented guy. So he throws for over 400 yards last week. But remember now, they're a 30-point favorite win by 10 over Mississippi State. Mississippi State is a one-win team. So something is not right with Georgia as opposed to what it was the last few years. Kentucky's D-line pushed them around the field. I watched that game. That was like, that was an eye-opener.

It's like this isn't like a fluke. It's like Kentucky's stronger than you are up front, defensive line against your O-line. And on the flip side for Texas, you're exactly right. I think this is the best offensive line in college football. They're the most experience, in particular of the real contenders. A lot of these guys for Texas have played for three straight years together. You see, here's what's going on in college football, Colin. It's yes about talent acquisition, but what's becoming more important than talent acquisition, talent retention.

Yes. You've got to recruit not your future players, but your current players. because getting your current players to stay in your program delivers continuity and experience, and all of that continuity and experience allows you to perform at your best in the biggest moments. And that's what we're seeing from Texas on the offensive line. They are owning the game, really, in the tempo of the game,

and in large part, they have been able to protect their defense as well, which allows them to be the number one scoring offense in the country and the number one scoring defense in the country. So they're a complete team. This is what we normally saw from Georgia over the last three years. And now that's what we're seeing from Sark on the Texas side. So as I walk around California. Recording videos of myself.

Yeah. Well, no. People come up. There's a lot of USC jerseys in this town. It's a USC football town. It is a lot of USC. And they come up and people lament the state. And it's amazing how often I think we need new coach.

Oh, my gosh. I hear it all this. I've been here about this about Dave Roberts or the Dodgers. I've been here for seven years. Like, Dave's pretty good. Well, look at all the coaches the Lakers go through. Yeah. You don't want to be the Jets or the Raiders.

I mean, just, so here's my take. I overvalued. I thought they'd beat Minnesota. And I thought the Penn State game, LSU games were going either way games. They won one. They lost one. And they could have lost LSU. They could have beaten Penn State.

Yeah. So my take is, you just said something that's real smart. It's player retention. The criticism, I sometimes I wish Lincoln would bark a little more and be a little more insertive. He's a little stoic and intellectual cerebral. But in this world we live in now of player retention, you can't dog your players too much or they'll go. You've got to be a little NFL. You've got to be a little player friendly.

Andy Reid barks, his players love him. Yes. And I think Lincoln Big Picture knows this is a really, really young offense. You know what it is? What? Texas two years ago. That's what USC is right now.

Say that again. USC is at a point that Sark was two years ago. Remember when Sark would always lose those close games? Remember it's like, oh, they could have beat or should have beat Alabama, but didn't. You know, and why? Well, their offensive line was young. Remember? And guess what they've got now?

All those same offensive linemen, and they're the best team in college football. So let's go back to the talent retention. USC will be just fine, as long as Lincoln can retain the talent on the line of scrimmage. If he can take these guys that are playing as red shirt freshmen and young players, and if he can take them and continue to grow them, continue to play difficult games, and you know what? Yeah, win some of them, but retain those players. Then next year and the year after, guess what? They're the ones that are going to be controlling tempo.

They're the ones that are going to be able to control four-minute offense. They're the ones that will be able to drive down and not have the quarterback under so much pressure because that's what Texas was. Remember two years ago? People in Austin were like, hey, man, is Sark really, like, are we sure about Sark? And now, toast to the town. Texas is the best team in college football. They're undefeated. They should beat Georgia.

And why they developed. And they did so at the line of scrimmage. I think that's the trajectory that USC is on personally. I told a friend of my follow recruiting. last year's recruiting class at USC is the first time I remember. They got three legitimate big-time delinemen. They're not playing. They're kids.

They're in the wait room. So I like where you're going. Okay, so this weekend, I thought there was a real separation. So I talk quarterbacks a lot. Yeah. It's pretty good at Acosta High if you go find the old video. Old slinging cowherd. Did you play quarterback?

Not particularly well. Oh, okay. The screen pass was my house. Oh, yeah, listen. Yeah. I love the screen pass. Yeah. So I watch Shitter Sanders, and I think it's pretty obvious.

That's the number one pick. So a couple reasons. Interesting. First of all, Quinn yours, like him, hurt again. Don't love that. I always had it. Sam Bradford. Hurt in college, hurting the pros.

Don't want to see it. Cam Ward feels small. I've fallen for this before. Shudor Sanders, same height. I never think about his height. Well, you can't call one of them small, and then the other one you don't think about it. I'm just telling you, when I look at Cam Moore.

That doesn't make any sense. It may not. But when I look at Shadurr Sanders, Mahomes and Shadrers is the same size. They play. Well, that means Cam Ward is the same size as Patrick Malm. So why are you worried about his size? I think he comes across as a little bit of a mover and a playmaker.

I mean, I don't get that. I think Shudor Sanders is easily the best quarterback in college. I think he's separated. This is not a knock against Shador. I just don't think he's separated. it's not because of anything he hasn't done as much as I just think Cam is really good

I would agree with Quinn like the injury issue is an issue every year that Quinn Ewers gets banged up it's like well listen now it's a thing it's a pattern Carson Beck without Brock Bowers it's not the same I'm in the 400 yards last

week I just I just don't think he's separated like what you're trying to suggest he very well may be the first pick I think Shador Sanders is such a better player than he gets credit because everybody loves to hate on Colorado, Shador Sanders, and his dad. He had no run game last week. No, and he didn't have his, and he didn't have his two best.

Hunter and Horn. And Jimmy Horn. He didn't have his two best wide receivers. And that's the best team in the Big 12. And they're going against Kansas State and they have a lead with three minutes to go. Now, I felt like the coaching staff for Colorado just fumbled the game at the end. You don't play man coverage up four inside of three minutes to allow big, plays to happen. You force them to snap it 10, 11, 12 times. So you've got to create layers to

your defense and force them and encourage them to run the football, rally up, make the tackle, and then let the clock work on your side. And then fourth and five, don't throw a fade. This is my pushback on Shador. He's fabulous. He is accurate. He is tough. I mean, you talk about tough. This guy, there's no one in the last two years in college football that has been hit more than Shador Sanders. And he gets right up. And he gets right up there. And he continues to stand in the face of pressure and deliver dimes. And I love that about him. He's an anticipatory thrower.

He's smart. He understands defensive structure. His game translates. There are two things that I think he needs to get better at. Number one, he's got to quit holding on to the football. He is allergic to incompletions, and so he doesn't want to throw the football away. You've got to throw it away, in particular, at the next level, or you're going to get hurt. And then the next thing is, is that he has this.

And it's happened twice this year. He throws these weird, like, oh, I'm going to take the fade. And it's like, it's not the situation to throw the fade. He did it against North Dakota State when they needed to run out the clock, and he threw a slot fade. He shouldn't have done that. It was incomplete. Fourth and six on Saturday night against Kansas State,

they've got to drive down to kick a field goal. It's fourth and six, he throws a fade. It's like, dude, you got blitzed from the field, the wide side of the field. You've got an in-breaking route from that side that has inside leverage on the support defender, throw the in-breaking route. So there are things that frustrate me about Shudor, namely those decisions in critical moments and that he holds the football.

But everything else, this guy is fabulous. He's accurate, he's tough. He absolutely, to your point, he absolutely could be the first pick in the draft. I just don't want to throw Cam Ward away because I think Cam Ward is also sensational. All right, Clats top 10. You know, listen, we're going into a 12-team play.

You know, Indiana is 6-0. I do know that. I'm calling their game this weekend. So they're pretty interesting. I love this Indiana. Kurt Signetti, their head coach. Dude, this guy, he can do it. He's the next Kailen DeBore.

Just letting you know. Somebody told me that Bloomington, Indiana is the most underrated college town in America. Oh, interesting. It's the best college town. Now, I've flown over it several times. I bet you have. Did you look out the window and you thought, huh? That was busy.

Coint. But I've heard. heard it's really nice. Anywho, your top 10, I think, I think we can all, can we all say this now, Texas, Oregon, Ohio State, those are the best three teams in the country. Yes. I feel no problem saying that. There's no doubt. That's why I didn't move Ohio State down much further. Yeah. I still believe in Georgia's talent. That's a great win for Penn State, and I think a momentum builder for James Franklin and I think over a very good team in USC. USC's ranking and record are not indicative of how good their team is. And then the team that

I would just throw out there that no one's talking about because they got throttled week one. Watch out for Clemson. Another 49 points last week. I've been telling you for weeks, haven't I? It's like, watch out for Clemson. How about Dabo Sweeney? He stuck to his guns. Yeah, he did.

We all piled on him. Talent retention. Keeps his guys. You know something? Last week was so fun. It is college football in a world of anxiety every four years. Saturday was what I love about college football. There's a little corporate feel, but it's just one big party.

Yeah. Was a Eugene? Yeah. Eugene's a party. By the way, Baton Rouge was a party. LSU comes back. They beat Ole Miss. They storm the field. I mean, I love it.

It's more unpredictable than the NFL. It's less corporate. I mean, I love the NFL, and all of us love the NFL, and it's the king, obviously. Yeah. College football, though, man, it's just like, it's like, the fabric of, it's like the fabric of the country. You ever had a family gathering and one member

he's a little inappropriate. He took his clothes off, jumped in the pool, you threw him a towel, he wrapped up, he went home, and you were kind of mad at him. And then the next morning you wake up and think, does he have more fun than the rest of us? Maybe I should jump in the pool naked once in a while to big party.

That's college football. It's kind of, it's almost a little off its keister sometimes, but God, when I watched Oregon, Ohio State, I was so happy for all those fans. It was so good. I love it, man. It's great to see you as well.

It is. A man of stability. You know, some might say talent retention. You've kept me around all these years. Well done. You're doing a good job. I'm the Lincoln Riley of this thing. I'm 500, but I retain my talent.

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Josh Allen had said the offense was good with it everybody eats mentality a few weeks back. And head coach Sean McDermott pushed a similar message after acquiring the former Browns receiver. You know, I think that remains to be seen, right? You know, he was obviously on a different team as up until a couple of times. up until a couple hours ago. So we want to get him in here and get him up to speed on our terminology and our system and see how he fits in.

And like I said, it's never about one guy. It's about the team and in this case, the offense. Yeah. I think they needed him. But this offense looked very limited the last three weeks. Well, I think they were fine without him, but it's juice to a good team getting slightly better. Define fine.

Fine is not contending in the end. IFC. Well, I mean, when you lose Khalil Shakir and your offenses can't do anything, like you've got problems. Well, this rookie receiver is going to keep getting better. He's going to keep getting better. He doesn't scare anybody. Well, and right now. Amari Cooper can throw some conservative. Well, I like that Amari Cooper's quiet and productive. I like those kind of people. He doesn't need to tell you how great he is. He just comes in, works hard, good guy. I like Damari Cooper is the opposite of a diva wide receiver. I get productions.

I like that. I thought you were talking about me there for a second. Quiet and productive. Wow. Next up is Devante Adams had people speculating whether or not the Raiders would trade him. Obviously, he got shipped to the Jets. Well, yesterday at the owner's meetings, Raiders owner Mark Davis said that trading pro-bowl defensive end,

Max Crosby, is, quote, just not happening. Now, Coward, you have an in with Crosby. I don't know if you guys are text. least. It sounds like the only way he's getting out of Vegas is if he, like, says, I want out the way Devante Adams. I think he defines the Raiders. The Raiders have a tough guy image. He's the toughest guy. Edge rushers like Mack Crosby. You don't get Max Crosby in the fifth round. It's like George Kiddell in the fifth round. He's a Hall of Famer. I would not trade Max Crosby. If I was Detroit, I would call on it and I would offer a first round pick. But if I was Tom Telesco, I wouldn't,

I wouldn't give up Crosby. I would give up Devante Adams. I would just almost give up any wide receiver, not named Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. I would give up almost any wide receiver because college furnishes pro football with so many good ones every year. How many great edge rushers, T.J., Hutchison, Miles Garrett, Max Crosby. It is a, I don't think Mike is in that group. Nick Bosa. There's like six in the league. K. Bon Theibodeau is pretty good player. So Crosby actually was a fourth round pick out of Eastern Michigan. He was one of these guys who was like under-recruited, and everybody loved him, and then he just like works his butt off and becomes a star.

I just don't see what the point of holding onto him is. Because you're not... Raider. What does that get you? You're not... First of all, the Raiders need to find a quarterback. If they go find a Jaden Daniels or a Caleb... That's a huge example. Come on. Come on.

They'll get receivers easy. Receivers are a dime of dust. They have excellent tight ends. They have a left tackle. I mean, if you look at what the Raiders have, I've been saying this for years. The five things you need. Edge Rush, got it.

Weapons. Brock Bowers. with or without Devonty. Got it. Left tackle. Colton Miller. Got it. They have a lot of the weapon.

They don't have a quarterback. And I don't know if the coach is going to work, but they don't have a quarterback. If they can get the quarterback right, you can go find receivers. So getting extra picks for Crosby enables you to, if you're not like a three-win team, trade up to get the quarterback. That's what they are. You think they're a three-win team? I don't. I mean, moving off Devante, this is a four-win team.

I think the Patriots are probably a three-to-a-four-win team. team. Panthers. I think there's some teams. I don't think the Panthers are drafted top five. I think the Panthers will win a couple games. NFC's a little weaker. Little. I just say, I don't know if the Saints are winning another game this month. They're in dire straits.

Colin, they got a tank basically. The Raiders, if you want Cam Ward, Chador. This is not a great quarterback class. It's okay. But I talked to a general manager. I texted a general manager yesterday who does not need a quarterback. And I asked him, what do you think of the quarterback class?

and he said, it is not close to the one we just had. So the one we just had is Caleb, hit, Jaden, hit. Bo Nix, looks like a hit. J.J. McCarthy in preseason, looked like a hit. So this next one, the only one I absolutely would draft, the only one is Shadour Sanders, I would draft him. Cam Ward, I'm just going to say this. Be patient, wait for stuff to come out.

Shadur Sanders is going to be a clean draft pick. There's going to be no baggage, no stories, no nothing. teammates like him. Everybody else has something else. All the other guys have. Torses Kansas State. Kansas State's good team. And you're all in. Kansas State's good program. I don't know about this, Calvert. Final story is

the Arizona Cardinals. Is there a more inconsistent team than Arizona? They are the only team in the league to both win and lose games by 28 points so far this season. They just got smacked around by the Packers and Kyler says there's no quick fix

in Arizona. There's no magic wand, the wave, or anything like that. We just got to execute. We didn't execute today. They did. Such as Jay-G's mayor, it felt like we played a game like that, where we've made bone-head mistake after-boned mistake, and, you know, having taken care of the ball.

I feel like we've been fairly good about taking care of the ball. And today, we didn't, and then, you know, in the NFL, I guess you beat. I can tell you something. This is a good spot for Arizona. Getting points at home, stand-alone game. Monday night just got rocked. Timeout, not standalone. There's two Monday night.

Nobody's watching the other one. Harbon cut. Tampa Bay Harbourn. Well, Baker's got a little bit, but it's going to be, this is going to be the noteworthy one. I think this. So look at what you see with this team. So they crush the Rams. They look great.

And they lose to the Lions. They get crushed by Kim Anders, beat San Francisco. Crushed by Green Bay. The talents there, the consistency's not. Home game. Chargers are beat up. Do not have two of their high-powered receivers. Arizona is one of my plays of the week.

At home, getting points, often ugly loss. This is an immature team in Arizona that plays well when they're focused. If you go look at their schedule, ugly, good, ugly, good. They're going to come out. They got humiliated last week. They weren't even competitive in the first half. I mean, they could have gotten on the flight home at halftime. It was embarrassing.

I think 23-0, 24-something like that. I mean, Green Bay, it wasn't even close. It's embarrassing. Yeah. I haven't done enough on this game. I'm curious how the Chargers historically have done against running quarterbacks. But I just look at the matchup for the Chargers, Colin.

What do they want to do? We know. Big offensive line, run the football. Arizona can't stop the run. You just run right over them. They don't have a run defense at all. This feels to me like one of these spots where Harbaugh is like, all right, we want to control the ball for 38 minutes.

We want J.K. Dobbins with 27 carries. Vidal, the guy mentioned this week. He's going to get another 10. just be careful. This Chargers team is very obvious and predictable, but when they get rolling, I mean, you saw what they did to Denver. It was just like, we're running the football.

They have no wide receivers that are healthy. I don't think it matters. Hardball's got that much of a good machine going. Again, I don't have any money on this game, and I know you have a lust for your boy, Kyler Murray. We'll see. You're going to be afraid of one of the bosses breathing down his neck, perhaps? Assuming Bosa plays.

You don't like Kyler Murray, and I do. No, I mean, I used to. And then, you know, I'm not. If I heard some stuff, I got somebody who's worked in the organization, and I'm off. All right. You're all right. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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One of the things I try not to do, one of the mantras of this show that I appreciate in sports is take a big swing. So I don't think Devonthe Adams is going to change the season, but it's a swing, and I appreciate big swings. And the reason I appreciate big swings by my bosses or corporate entities or sports teams is because most people in life do. don't take big swings. They sit on the sidelines and they rip you if it fails.

So hiring Jim Harbaugh at Michigan, dude got to a Super Bowl. That was a big swing by Michigan. So I'm rooting for it. I like that. I'm fond Lincoln, Riley to USC. That's a big swing. That is a big swing. I'm rooting for it.

Everybody sits on the sidelines and bangs on the decisions when they don't work. But the only way to separate from everybody else in society is big swings. as somebody once told me, you can't save your way to wealth. I put money away every month. You can be content. You're not getting wealthy. You want to get wealthy? Take a swing.

And you're going to fail on about 50% of them. So I would draft a quarterback every other year. Not in the first round. So Jerry Jones, one of the things that's been shocking to me is they didn't make a move at last year in free agency. I'm like, Jerry, you're an oil man. Take a swing. Go get Derek Henry.

Figure it out, move pieces. He's $8 million. He didn't. That was my thing. Go get Derek Henry. Your running back room is terrible. You wouldn't. And here, Jerry said this week, you know, I'm going to stand Pat.

When you watch this team play, they're the worst three and three team in the league. They're getting shelled at home. And so he had a combative radio interview this week in Dallas, but this is the one thing I did kind of appreciate. I'm not afraid to make decisions. And I live with anything that we're talking about as far as criticism about those decisions. What I'm going to worry about is whether those decisions can pan out in a positive way. You've got a lot of reasons why they don't. And you've got a lot of teams up here looking around at some of the decisions they've made over the last few years.

Just because everybody else is making bad decisions doesn't mean that justifies you making a bad disease. You say you don't go into this. We can go. into this i'm saying what i'm saying don't tell me what i'm saying yeah jerry's much more successful than you know ninety nine point nine percent of the people in dallas and he is because he's he's he's gone for it a lot my issue with jerry is he seeks comfort this is one of the criticisms i've had with aaron rogers he wants to get his buddy and allan lezard and dude don't seek comfort like go seek

production. Devante Adams is both. He's comfort and production, but at least I get production. With Alan Lazzard, there's limitations. Congrats on the Hail Mary. But with Jerry, it's like, Jerry, your whole history is taken swings. And so not making any moves and convincing yourself, this is the roster. It's like, I mean, I don't even like the roster going forward because of what you're paying DAC. That's not Matt Stafford. That's not Josh Allen. You can't, you're paying him max. So you've got to take some swings to make up for that contract. track. CD Lamb, you pay them what you've got to pay them. I think a big swing would be to move Micah Parsons. That's a big swing. Move Micah Parsons. You'd get a first round pick. You'll have two

first round picks next year and then go fix the offense. There's that running back at Boise State. Go get them. You know, go go get another receiver in the first round. Dallas needs to take a swing. I'd get two first round picks. I'd go get a star back. I'd go get a star receiver opposite of C.D. Lamb. If you're paying DAC that kind of money, you've got to make sure DAC works. Right? Like, it's like anything else. If you pay a lot of money for a home, you better get it insured. If you're paying that kind of money for Dak, who's a B-plus guy, and you want to make him an A,

you got to get him a left tackle. They just drafted one. You got to sign CD Lamb. They just got him. You got to go get a star backed. I thought it was Derek Henry. They said, no, go draft one. The Boise State kid.

Pick him. Everybody's like, I don't like first round running backs. Dallas needs a running back. But anytime you make a huge investment in something, you've got to make sure it works. Right? It'd be like spending money on a quarterback and then having a bad offensive line. It's buying a mansion and not have an insurance. Once you invest in something like DAC, and I think it's more than you should pay,

I don't get what Miami does. They want to pay two of the offensive line's bad. He's a small quarterback that gets hurt. I'll have a bad secondary. I have a bad old line. My investment's too great in Tula. Get rid of your corners. Get tackles.

So that's the thing about Jerry. I like that he takes big swings. I'm a fan of that. But it's just standing pat for the last year. Make moves. I'd move Micah, get another first round pick, and then I would take anything that helps DAC in the first round. Worry about your defense later.

Get help for DAC immediately. there you go Jay Mack Dave Roberts Dodger manager is going to be stopping by biggest Dodger and Met game of the year

obviously they're tied at one was it Walker Bueller going for the Dodgers this is going to be big this is intense but can I quickly go back did you just say

that Cowboys should draft the first round running back the kid Gentie from my boys and that's a take they have to get DAC help paying DAC $60 million and then saying

CD Lamb and Hamm and Eggett they got the tackle from Oakland Oklahoma, he'll get better. Hopefully. Now go get a running back and go get another weapon. Go get a running back. That is, I mean, I hear you.

The run game is not existing. By the way, Seek, first round back. Zeeke, first round back. Adrian Peterson, first round back. Seems like when you draft them, they're pretty good. All those teams, well, I don't know if AP, the other teams moved off their running back, though, after the first five years.

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