The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Steelers

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

Mark Kaboly joins the Herd to discuss the Pittsburgh Steelers roster, including Justin Fields and Russell Wilson and if either have life left in them, and how secure Mike Tomlin's job is. Colin wonders if the Steelers can make a run at wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk. The Steelers have six division games in eight weeks - can they succeed?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. The staff told me Colin it's Pele that played for the New York Cosmos. He was really, really old. I remember for some reason Franz Beckenbauer. That was the guy I looked up. He was great German player. And so that was the NSA.

You weren't born, and I was watching. You mentioned flying to England in the 60s. I was like, did airplanes they existed? Oh, yeah, I remember the flight. We were on a... You could smoke on the airplane, right? I can remember the flight as a kid. We flew from Seattle on a prop plane, jets for props, to Rikovic, Iceland, which I visited

with my son a year ago. We went to Rikovic. I can remember flying in at night and there was snow. And so it's, I remember seeing like this white. island in the sea as we were landing. I remember that. And then I remember England. I got a really bad fever the first couple of days. And my family lost me for six hours in England. I was like six years old. I was upstairs, sleeping upstairs. My family was searching all over Lancashire trying to find their six-year-old son. I was upstairs sleeping. I can remember my sister coming into

the room and screaming, I found him. I found him. And I remember the soccer stuff. Those are the earliest memories of my life, I think, when I was, again, it was like late 60s. But I remember the introduction to soccer, Johann Croix, Netherlands, England. The radio audience here is like Colin, you're on a heater today. I'm going to include my heater because I want to talk hockey. Oh, no. I'm going to talk hockey. Really?

I watch the Stanley Cup finals. I watch hockey playoff hockey. It's not a great TV sport or a topic sport for what I do, but I watch it. Last night was great television. But this year is notable. because of a kid named Connor McDavid. He's 27 years old. He is the best player in the sport.

He's a brilliant player. He's the fastest skater in the NHL. And he is a wizard with a puck on his stick. It looks like a Benny Hanesheff and the steel spatula. Like his ability to get through people and crowds, puck on the stick, going through traffic is, it looks like a video game. It doesn't look like anything you've ever seen in your life.

And he is on a complete heater in the playoffs. He has 42 points in 23 playoffs. games. This year he has 174 total points in 99 games. He's going to break, it says here, he has a chance. McDavid is in position to become the second player in the history of the sport

to have at least a point on over 50% of the team's goals after Gretzky in 1988. And he's a faster skater than Wayne Gretzky. Hockey, because of its frenetic pace, a small puck, dual intermissions,

sometimes doesn't, It's tougher on television, but I think Connor McDavid and this Stanley Cup final is really worth your time. Because there are so many things about hockey that I do think are better live than on TV, but are still good on TV. It's got physicality. It's intense. It's really fast. Those are all excellent TV components. But again, it can be hard to see the puck.

If you didn't play hockey, the rules can be a bit confusing. But I think this is totally worth your time. I thought last night's third period was furious. It was frenetic. Here was Connor McDavid's goal, sealing it up. Simon was able to lift it behind Matthew Cichuk. It's heading for the empty net. In Cachuk, Bush lost the goal line.

rebound McDacon fires and scores. And there will be a game six of the Stanley Cup final. McDavid said it. And now he's delivered. Edmonton, dragging for him. We're the way back to Alberta. So if you go to, let's say, YouTube and you don't know much about hockey, go look up Connor McDavid's 15 best goals.

There's a handful of them that look like a video game. So I think any time, like when you get a Usain Bolt, you may not be a big track and field fan, but you occasionally get these athletes that are, like Caitlin Clark's a good player. She's a great business component to the sport. But, I mean, you get Tiger Woods in his prime, Connor McDavid in his prime.

It's just different. It just doesn't look. And what's always remarkable to me is when you see these great athletes, like LeBron James and his prime was like, think how good D. Wade was. It was Miami's D. Wade City. And about three practices in, D. Wade's like, yeah, this is your team. Like there are these rarefied athletes that are just significantly faster, better and more skilled than the other great.

athletes of their sport and Connor McDavid is that and so take a watch if you can Sean McDonough tip of the cap to you you're great on hockey so Austin Echler was talking about the Chargers yesterday he was on a podcast and he said listen Jim Harbaugh he wants a guy his quote was they can hand the ball off to

300 times a year Austin Echler's like that's not me that's not what I do so I just wasn't a fit with the chargers I like him I had a great time but that's that's that's here's Austin Eichler talking about what he does and what the chargers will now be. I think you can kind of see kind of how they've been building the team so far this offseason, you know, went out drafted, you know, a tackle first round, brought in some bigger

backs over from Baltimore. And so it's like, hey, they want a guy they can hand them all off to 300 times a year. And look, I haven't had that capacity to do that. That's not my game. That's not how Austin Echler is going to be the best on the field. So there was the misalignment there, which no harm. I'll go find somewhere else where I can add value where Austin could be the best version of myself out there. Yeah, and by the way, I think he'll be great with Washington.

But the interesting thing about Harbaugh is that it's always interesting with Harbaugh. You know exactly what he's going to do, and everybody in the league knows exactly what he's going to do, and he will do it, and he will succeed instantly. It's not complicated. Look at Michigan, Ohio State. he made Michigan, the longer he was at Michigan, the more physical they got until the last three years when they were noticeably more physical than Ohio State. And they outrushed the Buckeyes in their last three games against each other and Michigan went 3 and 0. For the record, the team that wins the day in rushing, Michigan, Ohio State has won 22 straight.

and whereas Ohio State got more quarterback and wide receiver led, Michigan got more Blake Corum and pound the football led. I mean, even as good as J.J. McCarthy was, he wasn't throwing passes, second half against Penn State. That was a run team. And when he was at Stanford, and you think, oh, they had Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck in his three years starting in the Pack 12 was ninth in pass attempts, third in past attempts, and seventh in pass attempts.

Jim Harbaugh never changed. They became the most physical program very quickly in the Pack 12, surpassing Pete Carroll's physical USC teams. So he goes to the Chargers. Brandon Staley's teams were too complicated on defense and too cute on offense. And the Chargers have not run the football for four years. Bottom of the league. 28, 29, 30, 31st.

Can't run the football. Harbaugh's going to do what Harbaugh does everywhere he goes. And everybody in the league knows it. And they're going to be very good immediately. There is not a secret sauce to anything. Everybody knew what Tom Brady could do and what he couldn't, and he kept winning. Traits, traits, traits, traits, traits. Harbaugh is going to run the football.

Andrew Luck, he ran the football. J.J. McCarthy, you know, best quarterback is last year in the conference, ran the football. So here it comes. Even great quarterbacks need a run game. so if you ask offensive linemen, they would all rather run block, moving forward, punishing, then pass block, get up, have to face an athletic lineman, more athletic than them, backing up.

So that's why players love him. Most football players, even quarterbacks like some level of physicality. Andrew Luck, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, on more than one occasion, have put their shoulder down and run over guys. They have to be talked out sometimes quarterbacks of running over defensive player. Outside of maybe kickers and maybe some of them do too.

Most football players want to be more physical. Simplify the game, make it physical. That's what Harbaugh does. That's what Staley couldn't do. And I think the chargers will be excellent very quickly. All right. Mark Caboli covers the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Story today is Russell Wilson. It's over. He has distanced himself in the quarterback competition for Justin Fields. And for the life of me, I would have made Mike Tomlin coach this year and kind of see the expectations and can they finish things off and kind of evolve offensively. They didn't. They gave them an extension. What does it mean?

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Mike Tomlin an extension, and it was met mixed reviews for a lot in Pittsburgh. I had said, I know he's a good coach, but I think Pete Carroll. is a good coach. I think Andy reads a good coach. I think Belichick's a great coach. This league generally loses patience with coaches. Mark Cabali covers the Pittsburgh Steelers, senior writer for the athletic.

He's been on our show before. So I thought it was interesting. Your story, and I read all of them, was about let's start with Russell, kind of separating and sort of looking the part in camp. Explain that to the audience.

Well, he's looking the part. He's acting the more than anything right now is they brought him in to be a leader first and that's what he's done he's taking that leadership role that's something that they haven't had over the last four or five years and really running with it i mean getting the players to believe in this stuff i mean that's where he is then you you add in that he did throw 26 touchdowns last year only a handful of interceptions might not be great he might not be his MVP caliber type of player anymore but that's significant compared to what kind of quarterback play the Steelers had last year. So as the Steelers like veteran guys, or if the organization likes Mike Tomlin,

a guy who has been there, done that. Mike Tomlin likes quarterbacks who have been there and done that. He's had to deal with the young ones over the past couple of years. I don't know how much he liked that. He has a guy that comes in here now. They'll present it as a quarterback battle, but a ton would have to go wrong for Russell World. also not to be the starter, not only opening day, but for the majority of the season.

You've also said in your article, which is not surprising, because I've said Justin Fields is a great athlete. I think he holds on the ball long. He reminds me of Zach Wilson. I see the physical traits. I'm not sure he and Zach see the field particularly well. What did you see in this camp, Mark? I mean, very, I would say inconsistent with his accuracy. There will be some throws he would make, you would just say, wow, this is. a top 10 pick. I could see why he was so Ballyhooed in the draft a couple years ago.

Then you'll see a throw and say oh, that's why, it's what I heard about in Chicago. That's why he's not in Chicago anymore. I mean, let mind you, it's just OTAs and mini-camp. There's not a lot of reps going on team wise, so it's

hard to see that really translates into game type action. But everything else with him looks pretty good. I mean, obviously the athleticism, the want to, wanting to battle is everything out there. But I think he just needs some more mechanically. And you see that. I mean, you see that very evidently in OTAs and mini-camp that the inaccuracies at times have to be worrisome because it reminds you of stuff that they had with quarterbacks last year where Kenny Pickett would look good at times

and just throw it a ball to nowhere or something. They don't want that right now. If you can use this entire year to groom Justin Fields. I could still see him being a guy that's a franchise-type caliber for a quarterback for this organization, but he's going to have to get things cleaned up a little bit. And what better place to do it in Pittsburgh where there's really no pressure when Russell Wilson is that guy is going to be here for at least a year. So the inaccuracies is a little bit of an issue. But we were expecting that. That's nothing new, right? Mike Tomlin signs an extension. A lot of really good coaches.

Eventually, you know, the voice, Pat Riley used to say after 8, 10 years, people need a new voice. I thought it would be kind of a prove it year. There haven't been big playoff wins. There haven't been playoff wins, period, for a long time. But this is an organization like Green Bay that is sort of reticent to make big sweeping changes. Were you surprised he got an extension? Oh, I mean, pretty much, Art Rune. he came out in January and said he's going to get the extension it's just a matter when we put it

together so I mean there's been so much turnover I understand the thought of like maybe losing the voice or losing people he says but this roster is pretty much turned over 50% in the past year alone you go back a couple years and there's only a handful of players that are still around I mean you look at the front office GM that's all switch over scouting department department's totally new from the past couple of years. So you know how much Steelers like stability. And Mike Tomlin does bring that one semblance of stability still left in a program that has been changed a lot over the past couple of years. And trust me, when this is a guy that still enjoys coaching and loves coaching, he's surrounded himself this year with a bunch of very good coaches.

I mean, you've got a new quarterback coach, a new wide receiver coach. They got a couple other new coaches that I think will help this offense out a lot. They've really addressed the offensive line. They have two first round picks and the second round pick on the offensive line now. So I think it's more to do with so much changing with the stability of him still be in that face of the program. And we know how much the Roonies love that. So I'm not a little shocked. I'm a little shocked maybe it was three years, but that's how the Steelers do their contracts with coaches three years.

but that's the only thing that may be a little bit of shock. So they moved off Deontay Johnson to Carolina, so it's the very talented George Pickens, then a rookie out of Michigan, Roman Wilson. I could see the Steelers. I could see him making a run at Brandon Iyuk. They're not paying Russell Wilson anything. They're not paying Justin Fields anything.

That feels like in that division, Mark, I would consider taking a swing on Brandon Ayyuk. Do you think they would? I think it's possible. I mean, I think they've been interested in him ever since March when the free agency hit. It's just a matter of being patient right now, especially now at this time of the year, when you know IEuc might not be happy right now. What's the 49ers want?

The more you wait, potentially the less you get from him. I mean, the less you get draft pick-wise, if you want a first or a second, whatever, all of a sudden that becomes more attainable if you wait a little bit longer here. But the bottom line is with a guy like Ayuk, if he does want 25, 26, 30 million dollars, that's a lot of cash if you're paying George Pickens something similar next year for that. But, I mean, you went all in, as you said, you're paying $6 million to all four of your quarterbacks combined. $6 million, which is, I mean, I think the Cleveland Browns are paying 67 to there. So it tells you a little bit of discrepancy right there.

The problem is, is if you don't get a guy like that, like Van Jefferson, Calvin Austin, Roman Wilson, that number two guy to step up, then all of a sudden George Pickens gets taken out of the game, and all of a sudden, you know, chaos might ensue. Who knows what's going to happen after that? So yes, I think Comorne is waiting. It's just going to be a matter of can he pull that trigger

when it's necessary, when it's cheapest, when they're trying to get rid of them the most. But I think they have to go out there and get a wide receiver. I think it might be more towards the start of the season. than certain training camp, but they will add somebody. I'm pretty sure of that. Finally, their schedule is the roughest I've ever seen on the back end. Their final eight games are the Chiefs Eagles and six division games,

and the AFC North is stacked. What is a realistic sort of over-number? I mean, Mike doesn't have losing seasons. I mean, I think you come out of this schedule. If you got eight, I think you'd have to feel pretty good, wouldn't she? What do you feel? Yeah, I mean, it depends on how the, is I mean is Baltimore going to run away with it again or their offensive line going to hold them back if you're if that division just not keeps knocking everybody off maybe nine wins maybe 10 wins win the division more like 10 wins they won 10 games last year with no really good quarterback play whatsoever so but that as you said that stretch is rough I mean forget

um anything you know playing the chiefs and the Eagles in their non-conference games that's sixth division games in a span of What, eight or nine weeks? Brutal. That's unheard of. I think one of them is a Thursday night game, too, a quick turnaround. One of the Wednesday game, the rhythm of the schedule is all thrown off. But, you know what? Last year, I thought going to Seattle and Baltimore and Cincinnati to end the season was going to be rough,

and the easy games were going to be New England and Arizona, and they end up winning the last three. So it's hard to make that determination right now. But if you get 10 wins and then AFC North, I think you're doing very good for yourself. Mark Cabali does great work, the athletic NFL senior rider, we'll be following the Steelers. Thanks again, Mark, for coming on the show. I appreciate it. All right, Carl.

Thank you. Covered the NFL for 22 years, knows this stuff. Jay Mack, you look at that schedule. We showed the Charger schedule early and it's sneaky soft. Steeler schedule is insane. Six division games in eight, nine weeks. That's not the way it's supposed to work. Like, those are always way more.

Division games are harder. You can't fool anybody because everybody knows. Posure plays. I mean, even when the Jets weren't great and the dolphins weren't great, dolphins gave Tom Brady and the Patriots trouble every single year when they were winning Super Bowls and Miami was winning seven games. So division games are just different. It just doesn't add up for the Steelers.

The math doesn't math. You look at Russell Wilson in the last two years, what's gone on with him, terrible. Why did Tomlin sign this extension, Colin? That's what doesn't make sense. Why would he want to stick around when we don't know what's your situation? Well, he likes to coach. You don't have a quarterback. You don't have one.

I think he likes the coach. You want to coach a losing team searching for a quarterback? Sean McVeigh talked about leaving, and then he thought, I like coaching. Well, you got Matt Stafford. No, that is not the same thing. Mike Tomlin's got Russell Wilson who's on like his last chance seemingly. Well, he wasn't terrible. One year to basically prove it.

The Broncos defense was their problem last year. It wasn't Russell Wilson. Oh, so you're optimistic. I'm not optimistic with the division and schedule, but I don't think Russell Wilson. in Pittsburgh will be chaos. I think they're going to be around eight or nine wins. I think they'll win some of those games late.

It's brutal. I think if you look at their early schedule, they'll win several games early. I think they'll get off to a pretty good start. Three and two, four and two. I think it'll be very optimistic early. Well, as you know, it's not how you start. It's how you finish.

They'll finish roughly. We always look, you and I are looked to the future, guys. What is coming around the corner next? Fine. I'll give you eight wins. Okay, so what? It's not sniffing the play. playoffs in the AFC.

That might be last place in the division. Then what, Colin? What comes next? I'm just telling you, like, I don't see any good signs in the future for them. I know. I know Sears fans, oh, you're a Jets guy. Jet Stink. No, I think that I do. They have a good roster.

Who? I think Pittsburgh? Yeah, look at their... Pickens is a sensational talent. They've got the worst roster in the division. I don't believe that. Who's worse? Who's... Browns have a really good They have a top three pass rusher in T.J. Watt. Okay.

They have one of the best receiver talents in years in George Pickens. They have the best safety in the division. They have always good at linebacker. They have upgraded their offensive line. They have two running backs. I like both. They have an excellent tight end. Colin, the Ravens have a better roster than the Steelers.

Fact. You would agree. Yeah, but Cincinnati. Cleveland Browns. No, Cincinnati doesn't. Cleveland doesn't. I don't think I think Pittsburgh's got the second best. We'll ask Tom Brady with his thoughts.

Maybe I will. I'm sure he's broken it down. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

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He tweeted something yesterday. There was a graphic that said, Jason Tatum won the title and let his team in points, rebounds, and assists. And he retweeted it, re-quote, tweeted it, and said, what they're going to say now? Everybody's saying the same thing on Jason Tatum now as before the title. He's an elegant, excellent player who the Celtics added offensive pieces around

because they were a little unsure in big spots if he would grab the game by the throat, which he didn't in the Eastern Conference Finals or the finals. I think he thinks this validates his talent. It doesn't. He's always been good. But Jalen Brown was the better player in the finals and the kind. conference finals. That's not disputable.

And I like Jason Tatum, I saw today where he is expected to sign a record-breaking contract. And so much of monetization in sports and in life is timing and eras and leverage. Kirk Cousins, if he finishes his contract with Atlanta, will have made more money playing quarterback than Tom Brady. Just the way it works. You're going to see something over the next 10 years. years that's going to be pretty profound. The NBA contracts, they're going to have four different companies.

NBC, I think TNT will get a smaller package. Amazon and ESPN slash ABC are all going in on the NBA. So there's so many people out there that want to tell you nobody watches the NBA. Four networks are vying for it. Three of landed deals. Another one's coming. Stop. People watch pro basketball.

They always have my entire life. Plus, the game is fast. It's got stars. In a fractionalized world, stars get attention. I got news for you, NBA hater guy. Baseball is struggling to get people lined up for it. Baseball struggling. Hockey is struggled.

NBA is not struggling. Three companies, a streaming company. It's like the NFL and the NBA. Money's never the issue. But there are two industries that's going to be a little jarring. streaming services are going to elevate football and basketball players money, and they're going to hurt actors' money, because actors are going to start getting paid by the streaming services based on results,

not just gigantic contracts based on your name. But I don't have a problem at all with Jason Tatum making a lot of money. He's not difficult to coach. He's not weird. He's always healthy. he doesn't have weight issues or desire issues. He's one of the safest guy. He doesn't have injury issues.

I mean, Yonnis is getting banged up more and beads hurt. AD worries me a little on health. Jason Tatum is one of the safest guys in the league to pay a max to. Even Luca, as great as he is, is he easy to play with? Is he going to be in great shape? I mean, Jason Tatum checks all the boxes. Health, attitude, game, collaborative, all of them. So I don't have a problem at all.

He is, however, this title did not disprove the concerns with Jason Tatum. They actually proved it. Winning the title and having in the first two to three tone-setting games, Jalen Brown be the go-to-go-to guy, it didn't disprove anything. It proved what I had said and many had said about Jason Tatum. We know he's really, really good. We know he's a top 7-8 player. He's not a top-3 or four player. He's not the best player on the Celtics in the last.

last two series. The biggest two series in this most recent run by the Celtics. They've had many good runs. The bird stuff, Mikhail stuff, Russell stuff, the KG Pierce stuff, a lot of good runs. In the last two series, the most

important series, Jalen Brown was more consistently the best player on the team. It's not a knock. It's the reality of what the concern with Tatum is. It's not that he's not talented or fluid or aesthetically pleasing. He fills the box score. And I said this before, I went and watched

a couple Celtic games live, one of them in Chicago, he was the first guy on the floor by 20 minutes. Either team, first guy on the floor working on his game. J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. It's funny,

USA basketball this summer, right? Two Celtics on the team. Drew Holiday, Jason Tate. It's outrageous, Jaylon Brown. Jalen Brown didn't make it. They didn't make the team. Not one of the 12 best Americans. Well, it also, Kyrie Irving didn't make it.

So he's probably better than Martin. Jalen Brunson did not make it. That's why I've argued for Caitlin Clark. At the end of an Olympic roster, it can get very subjective and very political. And listen, you say political, I'll toss this out there. Jalen Brown was voted by the media finals MVP. The vote was like 7 to 4. I think there's some politics of play there.

I don't like, I don't know why the media doesn't love Tatum. You shake your head and laugh. There is nothing about Jason Tatum that's unlikable. Nothing. Can I give you my theory? I mean, Kyrie Irving's got stuff. Yes. Luca, dog, and defense got stuff.

Yes. I mean, Embed not delivering. Tatum is one of the most likable players in the league. Even the people that criticize him, me, I always end it and started with saying, I love this kid. Like, my criticism is like, okay, first of all I love him. And at the end, I always say, again, I think he's all NBA. Well, he's been first team all NBA three years ago. My working theory is the Celtics have been so close, knocking on the door, the media doesn't want to, well, I don't know Tatum's good and that they've been close and now they finally break through.

And Tatum was good. He led them in points, rebounds and assists. So you're saying the NBA media, which gave Westbrook the MVP. I would say Westbrook, by and large, not considered likable. He didn't even earn it that year. He averaged a triple doubles. So what? They were like the sixth seed or something like that.

The NBA gave it to him. Yeah, this Celtics team was historically great. Usually best player on the best team hits the NBA. But you know what was funny? In clutch time stats, they were number one in everything. They were like fourth in the league. Denver was better. Lakers were better.

They weren't a good clutch time team. And usually that is, well, who's your closer? So they were good as a clutch time team. They were great in every other staff. And that's a very reasonable concern. By the way, Brad Stevens told you his concern. by bringing in, leaving Marcus Smart, let him go, and bring in two better offensive players. So Brad Stevens, who was not only Jason Tatum's GM, he was his coach, watched them at every practice,

felt that Jason isn't quite that closer. I also think that the moves by Stevens were a little for locker room, like Marcus Smart was kind of an old-school, old regime guy. Let's hand it to Brown and Tatum. This is their team. They're the younger guy. That was part of the reason they got off on smart. I don't think so.

Porzingis had a bad locker room reputation. Fair or not, he had it. I mean, if you were going to get rid of Marcus Martin bringing Porzingis, that was a net negative. The Porzingis had been known as a bad locker room guy. I'm not saying he was, but that was his rep. But you're right. 20-point in-game guy can stretch the floor with the threes. No, they added offense.

They wanted to make this. Brad Stevens was saying, listen, instead of being highly Tatum-dependent late, he'll give us some points, but let's add a big, and another guard, so we're not dependent on Tatum because we've seen too many instances. I said this. When I've seen him live and when I watch him, my knock on Tatum has been, you will drop the ball to him low, he'll have a five-inch height advantage, and he'll do a fallaway 17-footer.

He just lacks a little aggressiveness in key spots and games. That is not a huge flaw. Ball handling, defense, effort, brain, like everything else is good. like smooth, hustles, coachable. It is a wish he was a

tad more aggressive. Brown, Jalen Brown, whose dad was a heavyweight fighter. Jaylen Brown's got the aggressive. Yeah,

he was picking up Luca full-core. Yeah, but he's not, he's not as fluid offensively. If you gave, if you gave Brown

the fluidity of Tatea, like, that's just the handle. And Tadem, the aggressiveness of Jalen Brown, you'd have a top two player in the league.

That's not bad. All right, let's get to the NFL, the AFC East, will be one of the tightest divisional races next season, Colin. Jets, bills, and dolphins. Kind of crowded house, according to Vegas. The bills are slight favorites to win the division.

Ever so slight, minus 165, followed by my jets, plus 185, and then the dolphins at plus 2.10. No other division has three teams that close in odds. Patriots obviously going nowhere. Sorry, Tom Brady. For the record, it's an offensive league. I get the offensive coach. I think Miami's the bet there

Oh, stop it Miami's the best We looked at the schedule, no shot Do we have Miami schedule? I mean, I don't know if we could pull it At the drop of a hat like that But you know, they got the Tua stuff lingering They're missing a lot of new guys on defense

What do you mean? Tua stuff lingering The biggest storyline with the Dolphins This off season is what's going on Toa's contract. Is he going to get paid? You've got his teammates going on social media

Writing on what was it They played around a golf They're like pay this man, you know He is going to get paid We just saw it this week Oh, we think That lingering stuff. You know, it's lingering.

Where Aaron vacationed? That's lingering. There's something lingering around Aaron. It's probably a cloud of smoke. But I don't know. I like the Jets at plus 185. I think they're, honestly, best roster in the division.

Can't say best quarterback. Definitely can't say best coach. Best defense for sure. What? I'll take best coach and quarterback. You can have best defense. All right. That's another question for Tom Brady.

Who's going to be a game of C. Next up is Drake London, the wide receiver for the Falcons. Two good years to start the NFL. He had to break 1,000 yards, but nevertheless, London has lacked some quarterback play, obviously, something he expects to change with Kirk Cousins under center. I will say that it does feel different having Kurt here. He's a very better guy who's been in here for now going on his 13th year.

So to learn some of him is a really cool thing. I think he's going to help me learn the game of football on a bigger scale and understand it a little bit more. And for that, I really can't wait and see where it takes my game. I think it's just attention to detail, honestly. He takes that very, very seriously. And then, too, he's seen a lot of pictures in his day playing football. So to be able to go out there and see those and help us see it with him is a huge thing, too.

So I think that's what I've learned the most. Now, by the way, he and Aaron both off Achilles surgery. Good to see Kirk Cousin showed up to his minicamp. Good to see. And for the record, did you notice how beneficial, an old quarterback showing up to even a little three-day mini-camp function, how valuable Drake London said it is. Is that another jab at Rogers?

Oh, I said jab. Both of them all. An Achilles surgery. Both didn't play a lot last year. Both have a lot of young skill people around him. Kirk Cousin saw the value in showing up. How about the upgrade at quarterback from, who was the quarterback last year in Atlanta? Remember that guy?

He was just not good. And now that you get Kirk Cousins, it's like when the, bucks went from James Winston to Tom Brady and instantly how they do, win the Super Bowl. Desmond Ritter, by the way, was the Falcons quarterback last year. That's a big upgrade for London. Well, I mean, Zach Wilson was the Jets quarterback. It's a big upgrade to Aaron Rogers. Oh, if he played.

It's very, the Jop. The comp is very interesting. I mean, both have, you know, one's got a brand new coach. One has a young coach, both defensive coaches, both off an Achilles surgery, both highly compensated, both at the end of their career. This is a big year for both. The difference is Michael Penix is right behind breathing down

church now. But there's a lot of similarities. I will take Atlanta to be a much better team than the Jets. The division's a joke. They should handle the division. What do you mean much better? Are you talking to win total? Yes, yes, easily. Atlanta's going to win 11 or 12 games. And the Jets won't? Eight, seven.

Eight or seven? I really believe that. The biggest odds. You just saw them. Look at Atlanta's schedule. I mean, look at the end of that schedule. Go start week 10. Saints at home, Broncos at home, buy Chargers at home, at Young Minnesota, at Raiders, Giants at Home, Carolina at Home Washington. They get in on a seven-game heater, eight-game winning streak. Jets end of the season schedule is tough. Wait, they're beating the Chargers.

Damn, actually the Falcons, Atlanta fans get excited. There's a 12-win team. That's favorable. Assuming Kirk Cousins is okay. You know how it is in the NFL. There's always a story we think is going to happen and it doesn't. There's always a hidden story. The Saints last year.

So everybody's thinking, Aaron's the quarterback that's going to bounce back off the Achilles surgery. No, it's going to be Kirk Cousins is going to bounce back and have a huge year. Everybody's looking at Aaron off an injury. Kirk is going to crush it this year. 12 and 5 home playoff game, win a playoff game. Even with your guy, Michael Pennix, breathing down his neck. Michael Pennix.

is going to sit and study and watch the old Jedi Master and then Michael will start next year. You think he's going to be upset? Pennix is sitting while Bo Nix is starting and all these other rookies are starting. Penning's better than them. It's like being upset. You get a great first job, but you have to drive 50 minutes every day to work.

It's not really a problem. You're out of college. You're out of college. You get a great job. But it is like an hour drive. That's a great problem to have. No, no. Michael Pennix is driving to work and sitting on the bench. He's not playing.

It's a good problem to have. I get a sit behind a pro bowler, and we go to the playoffs, and I learn from a great veteran quarterback. And I still get paid. Don't get paid any less. Pretty good job to have. To sit on the bench? I don't want to get paid to sit. I don't want to play.

You sat on the bench for a long time in your career. Look at you. You flourish. I was waiting for the call up to the bigs. I mean, I was crushing AA and AAA. But anyways, let's go to the final story, which is baseball. The Dodgers had a crazy ninth inning comeback last night. Nuts.

for Jason Hayward had a grand slam to pull him within one. Then, with two men on down to their final strike, Tay Oscar Hernandez got a check swing to go his way. Look, they wanted to call him out. Would have been game, no call. On the next pitch, here's what happened. Oh, I want to see this. Yeah.

Swang on, hit in the air to right center field and deep. This ball heading back. This ball's gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. A three-run, home run. Teoscar Hernandez. and the Dodgers have come all the way back to take the lead.

Oh my goodness. Absolutely incredible. It's 11 to 9. Yeah, more Dodger fans at Coors Field than Rocky fans. By the way, let's watch the check swing again. AM 570 sports. What's interesting, after the check swing, after the home run, you see the outfielder point right at the first base?

I got to tell you. They're so ticked off. Let me see this. Oh boy, go either way. I'm a dog who's in here. He went. Oh, go either way. Go either way. Look at it. Explanis had to bleep out.

So is the umpire's fault. You know, he's got to blame somebody. By the way, I'll say this. Hitting a walk-off home run, I've never done that before. Have you? Nope. That would be pretty cool. Here's a thing.

That's a go-either-way call. Ryan? Clearly, I mean, I know you were an intermaral referee. I was very good. In college, you clearly were not an umpire. Hey, Ryan, is that go either way? everybody on the staff was like oh man

and then you give up a three-run job on the next pitch you know what get people out stop blaming the umpire he got it now come on that's a go either way call wine complain i don't know Colorado stinks this year you think that umpire is the reason why Colorado I thought Colorado is one of your favorite states oh you're talking about the Rocky

Selwyn I like Utah you and your winters I like winter crazy you're a seasons guy look at the crowd it's All Dodger fans. And by the way, all the good seats are Dodger fans. Well, they can afford them. Well, there's a lot of years.

Parachuting in for a big series. What a game. What an all-time game. Hey, listen, if umpires are going to screw up, just make sure the Yankees and the Dodgers benefit. There you go. You know, my big market stands. Nobody really likes underdogs.

Eliteist coward. If umpires are going to screw up, just screw up in favor of the Yankees and the Dodgers, and we're all good here. Maybe Atlanta. You know, just don't give the twins like seven wins a year. That would just ruin the sport. J-Mac with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Everybody's freaking out about that. Like it was a slam dunk. You know, it's just like, Dodger fans think it wasn't. Rocky fans think it was. How about get the guy out?

How about throw a better pitch? I don't want to hear, I don't want to, you know, it's the old saying, work harder, nobody cares. Nobody cares about your excuses. Work harder. Nobody cares. We don't want over here about your plight. Just work harder. Throw a better pitch.

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