The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Super Bowl pick

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Colin gives his much anticipated Super Bowl pick The Herd is joined by Fox Sports NFL analyst Greg Olsen to preview Super Bowl LVIII  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, here we go. It's hour two. Greg Olson, five minutes live in Los Angeles. It's the herd, wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. We've got a really good week. We didn't go to the Super Bowl. We will next year, obviously. When Fox has it, it's New Orleans. But this week, we've been very lucky. Drew Brees, Steve Young, gotten some legendary guys. Go back and listen to Archive our podcast if you want. So it's been a lot of fun. and quarterback league. We got a star and a kid we're not sure what he is exactly. Very interesting. You tend to be leaning Niners all week. I'm guessing that's your pick tomorrow's headlines. It's a moment of truth for you. You finally got to get off the fence and make a pick.

Big, big spot for you, Cowboys. So I don't have the same conviction I had for the Cowboys over Miami or Baltimore over Kansas City. For the record, I went 0 and 2 with those picks. We did have a very good year, my best year arguably ever, picking football games. I don't think we didn't have a losing week post Thanksgiving. And after by week three on, I think we were 63%. So we've had a good week.

And Kansas City is plus two and a half. And here is my Super Bowl pick. I think Kansas City in the under is the side. Here's why. Third straight playoff game is an underdog. Kansas City often plays their very best as an underdog. They've held every team this year under 28 points, including the playoffs, and they're 11 and 0 when holding appointments under 20, although I don't know if they'll do it here. Mahalms is not only 13-1 indoors in his career where he's been unbelievably meticulous, 33 touchdowns and three interceptions.

He's never lost in Allegiance Stadium in Vegas, and he is 4-0 in the playoffs against quarterbacks under 25. He feasts in these moments. But the story of Kansas City is defense. Fewest points per game allowed during a three-game postseason run in the last decade. You don't know the names outside of Chris Jones. I think this is the most talented young defense in the league. I'm not sure who's second. Also in the playoffs, four takeaways.

I suspect Brock Purdy will cough one up. And they've only allowed four points per game in the game in the game. second half since week 14. They've held opponents in the second half to seven or fewer in eight straight games. So they're fast. They have a better pass rush than San Francisco. More sacks and more hurries. They're taking the ball away and they appear to be at half. The best second half defense by a long shot after the break. San Francisco concerns me. They train. They train. 24-7 entering the second half at home against the Lions. They've been outscored in the postseason 17 to nothing in the first quarter.

They're not fast starting. Don't love that for a young quarterback. They've been held under 28 points, despite all these legendary weapons and the coach, in four of their last five games. How is it possible with six Hall of Famers? Brock Purdy's the third youngest quarterback to ever start a Super Bowl, and the lowest drafted one, obviously, to make a Super Bowl start, the defense is allowing 160 yards rushing this postseason.

That was the second worst rush defense by any of the 14 playoff teams. I think there will be explosion plays. There's great offensive coaching and ingenuity. But I'm going to take the points. I like Kansas City in a low-scoring game 24 to 21, and that's how I see it. I do think high-end stars. San Francisco has more, but I do wonder about the pressure with Kyle Shanahan,

the play calling. You deal with purties and experience. You're going up against a master in Mahomes who can score late. What does that do to the psyche and the play calling if it's a close game late? With that, we bring in Greg Olson, just terrific Fox Sports NFL analyst. Pro Bowler, 14 years. You know, there's something I talked about earlier. It's a lot of psychology, but, you know, Andy Reid, he's got the bag, he's got the legacy, he's got the quarterback, and we're getting to a point.

I hear it with Lamar Jackson, though I don't buy the narrative. Lamar's never going to win the Super Bowl. I'm like, settle down. Kyle and Lamar are both going to end up doing very well in their careers. But it is interesting. When you go into a game, Greg, and you're going up against Mahomes, I've watched coaches. Go for it on fourth downs. They shouldn't.

make decisions they shouldn't do. I feel like there's a Mahomes effect in these big games. Now, it may not exist this year, but what do you make of that? Going into a game with Brock, facing the greatest quarterback, can that get into your head, do you think? Yeah, I think you're spot on.

I think the reality is I think that's the case for a lot of teams, right? I think you go back to the NFC championship game that we called. The reason Dan Campbell made those decisions to go on fourth down is because he's chasing 30 plus points, right? Neil, he knows this San Francisco offense is better than his Detroit defense, and he knows if they end with a field goal or a punt, they're not going to get to 30, right? So they got 31 and they lost. So the same thing with Mahomes, but that was true in years past. I think now, though, and I just listened to your prediction, and I think you're spot on about Kansas City. This is a defensive story for Kansas City. I mean, they scored 17 points. They scored 17 points. They scored 17 points. They won, they scored 17 points. They scored 17 points. They won't, they scored 17 points. They won't, they scored 17 points. They're season, would have been over, right? So Steve Spagnolo, this young defense, they're aggressive. You mentioned Chris Jones, but they got some dudes on the back end that they invested in last year that were rookies on that Super Bowl run. So this is a unique animal. So I don't think you have to be careful. I don't

think you can play this like it's the Kansas City offensive years ago where you're chasing 30 points. That's not who they've been this year. I think your low 20 score is, I think that's right. So I don't think Kyle has to go crazy. I don't think Purdy needs to throw the ball 50 times, run the ball at him, be physical, play under center, play action pass, get back to just, that's the fundamental philosophy of this Shanahan offense and what's made it so good. And I think this style of game with Kansas City's offense not being the highly prolific high scoring that they've been in years past doesn't make you play out of character. You know, every offensive coach, I think, has a bit of an advantage off a buyer extra time.

But Andy's record off a buy is like historically insane. and I think some of it in my opinion comes because Shanahan's offense, there's a lot of repetition. It's the same play in 12 sets, but it's about a half dozen plays that keep going and going. So my argument would be, well, is time as big an advantage? With Andy, he'll bring in trick plays. He'll design new stuff. I mean, he's really an artist at this stuff. I mean, he literally will bring things into this game and you're like, I mean, last year he's got Sky Moore wide open for touchdowns.

I do think Andy does feel different off a buy. That's my take, is that he's not just another offensive coach. I think he's the best coach with extra time I've ever seen in my life. What is your observation of Andy? Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, I think, you know, listen, to whether, what Kansas City has been able to do over the last couple years is they recognized, okay, we need to look at how we're going to build this team,

and we need to get some young assets. We're paying our quarterback a bazillion dollars, and he's going to have to do with less, right? That's just the nature of today's NFL. If you're paying your $50-plus million-dollar quarterback, you can build on this young defense, and you can weather those young teams. And when you look at last year,

if you don't have Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes or the equivalent of, you're not winning the Super Bowl, you're not getting to the Super Bowl, let alone winning it with a million young rookies and young defensive backs where you're starting three, you know, first and second year guys in the back end, and all of a sudden you find yourself in the Super Bowl

and what was supposed to be a rebuild year, your Super Bowl champions. You're only doing that if you are elite at the two spots that matter the most in pro football, head coach and quarterback. And you can make the argument. I mean, since Brady and Belichick, this is the best combination that we've seen, I mean, ever is a strong word, but in recent memory, at least. And, you know, I think you're right.

I think certain coaches, the by week, I think there is an advantage, which both of these guys have, is they know what the Super Bowl prep looks like. They know how much work should be done at home. before they fly out to the Super Bowl site and get into the rig and roll. So I think from an advantage standpoint, I think Andy obviously has been there a bunch. So has Kyle. So I think the prep going into a Super Bowl is unlike anything else the rest of the season. The by-week point, though, you're right.

Andy's bi-week record. I don't know it off the top of my head, but it's something ridiculous. And that's not by accident. Okay. As a great tight end, we have two Hall of Fame-level tight ends. Some similarities, both willing to block. Kittle is kind of a junkyard dog to me. He's just banging around and loves contact. Kelsey's a little bit more clever at times, but again, a willing blocker.

When you look at them, if I'd never seen them play, let's start with Travis Kelsey. And I'd say, hey, Greg, give me a rundown. I'm a defensive coordinator. What am I going to see with Travis Kelsey? Well, you're going to see a guy that regardless of what routes you had the scout team run all week and regardless of which guy were the 87 jersey, and you know, you pointed him out in every formation, and you know on every third down where the ball was going to go, that route he's going to run on Sunday is not going to look like it looked in the week of practice.

And I think that's the beauty and the magic is his feel, his creativity, his ability to just play free and understand, okay, I know where the rest of my teammates are going to be. I know the general area of where Pat wants me to be, but for the quarterback and the receiver to not have to do it, you know, we always say we don't run routes like it's on. a piece of paper, right? You don't just run 12 yards and break out and I hope I'm open. No, you get yourself open in the NFL. You're not reliant on always the play call. It's not always

the perfect route against the perfect coverage. That sums up Travis Kelsey, maybe better than any tight end in history in the NFL. I mean, his ability to be creative and find space and zone, create separation in man, and then a quarterback that trusts him, a play caller and Andy Reed that trusts him to have that flexibility, you've got to earn that over a long time of being productive. And, you know, I never thought anyone would catch Tony. If Travis plays long enough, he could catch Gonzalez, which years ago seemed unheard of. So it's pretty remarkable.

Edelman's coming in to say what's up. And, you know, so it's pretty remarkable what he's been able to do. And I think he's the perfect player in the perfect system, and that's where the magic happens. So Kittles different. My first, I mean, he was a mid-round guy. You know, Kelsey wasn't a first-round guy either, but I think Kittl kind of surprised people. His physicality, there's a little gronk to him, I think.

What do you see? Yeah, I think what's cool about Kittle is, you know, he bust onto the scene a few years back. And I think when him and I think him and Kelsey were going back and forth maybe and the one of them was beating the other for like the most yards and ever. I want to say Kittle finished like 12, 1,300 yards. And then these last couple years, he wasn't getting necessarily the big production, wasn't a thousand-yard receiver.

But, man, when you watch the tape, you talk about a perfect fit and a perfect offense. If you want to play tight end in Shanahan's offense, you're not just coming on the field to catch third down passes, come in the red zone, run fun. You're cut blocking defense events on the backside zone. You're pass protected on the deep shots to Debo and I, Yuk. You're doing all the dirty work, and then you're also going to be counted on to go for 80-90 a game. and end the season over a thousand. I think that's what's cool about Kittle is,

just like you say Kelsey's the perfect fit for Mahomes and Andy Reid and the style of play. Kittle is the exact same fit, but just a different philosophy, right? It's an under center run game. It's a play action pass. It's just a very different style of offense. But when you have two guys whose skill sets, whose demeanor, whose football intelligence, directly aligns with the play caller and the system that they're asked to play in, to your point, they're two Hall of Fame level guys.

They've been doing it. They've been the premier two tight ends for the last five to ten years. And for them to go up against each other, I just wish I was calling the game, man. These are my two guys. We do TEU together. These are my good buddy. So I'm a little jealous that we're not calling the game, but I'm going to enjoy watching these two guys and cheer from both. On behalf of Fireball, Cinnamon Whiskey and Fireball the call, you've seen the funny TV commercial.

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Appreciate it. Good seeing you, buddy. You too, man. All right. Greg Olson, just does a great job for us. Most receptions and receiving yards by a tight-in in Carolina Panthers history,

among his other plotts. So, you know, it's funny, San Francisco, I haven't really talked about it because I don't think it matters, but San Francisco's been complaining all week about their practice field. And I lived in Vegas for years,

and I'm trying to think it's a UNLV's practice field. Do you make anything of that? It's a little. softer than they like? What do you make of that? I don't buy much into it. Maybe 49ers trying to pull a Michael Jordan and mentally motivate ourselves. They're screwing off with the practice fee. Let's get them.

But I want to go back to something you said during your pick, Colin. So you said that the 49ers have struggled in the first quarter, first half of the postseason. And that's accurate. However, in the regular season, they were fourth and first quarter scoring, fourth and first half scoring. They were

dominant on the script. We don't know the answer, but I'm going to ask you, What are your theories as to why they've struggled in the postseason? And I'll start with this. Could it be that by week hurt them? We've seen that with the very good teams. Get the by week. Struggle, the Ravens came off the by, did like nothing in the first half.

Well, but then they struggled the next week. And my takeaway is they faced a really good offensive coach, Matt Lafleur, who also is a good first quarter coach. So they faced really one of the best first quarter teams in Green Bay. There's no dishonor being outscored by Green Band. first quarter, they outscored only everybody. And they just couldn't get the ball against Detroit. Their defense couldn't get off the field.

So in that, I'll defend San Francisco, is that I think Green Bay, I think when you face offensive coaches or brilliant offensive coordinators, Detroit scores on their first drive a lot. And you remember that against San Francisco. It's like five plays. This is march down the field. San Francisco gives it up. They just took the ball. So some of it is Detroit's O-line is better than the San Francisco first.

49ers D-line, and you saw it. Yeah. And the other thing is, we've got to be honest about this. Green Bay became a very interesting team at the end of the year. So it's not an indictment. But I do think playing from behind at home against inferior defenses is much different than playing from behind at the Super Bowl against, I think, the most talented defense in the league. That leads me to the next question.

Let's say, whoever gets the ball and goes up 7-0. Who do you think is in more trouble if they're trailing early? 49ers down 7-0-0-0 to the Chiefs or Chiefs, who I don't even know if they've trailed in the first half in the postseason, maybe to Buffalo. If the Chiefs go down 7-0. Well, Mahomes has played brilliantly from behind, especially in big games like this his entire career. I think it's easier for him. But if you go look at the Niners against both Green Bay and this year, against everybody not named Baltimore and against Detroit, they have such good players eventually. they find a rhythm and it works.

You're not going to shut as good as Kansas City's defense is. You're not shutting Francisco down. When you have Hall of Famers at the six key positions offensively and what happens with San Francisco, they have struggled to get their footing early going up against very competent offenses. Certainly an argument. To me, Detroit's got more overall talent on offense than Kansas City

and Green Bay has more young offensive town. especially a wide receiver and tight end than Kansas City. So this Kansas City offense is not that explosive. But the defense is significantly underrated. I think it's one of the better defenses in the last couple years. They are fast. They got 26 more hurries on the quarterback. Let's remember.

Ravens had two end zone turnovers in what was a 17-3, 17-10 game. Like, that game was a little closer than people want to say. Oh, it was. Colin, the chiefs had five, I believe, five first downs in the entire second half. Like that offense. Remember, that Baltimore team destroyed San Francisco. They pummeled. They beat a lot of good teams.

The city controlled them. Now, to your point, I agreed with this. It was much closer than you thought. I mean, when Baltimore was driving before the pick in the end zone, you're thinking, Baltimore is going to score here and we've got to have ourselves, they're going to come back in. I mean, I really felt Baltimore was going to win it. But they just refused to run.

the ball. It was, I think Kansas City, to some degree, got a bit of a break. That's one of the strangest game plans I've ever seen. In a big game in my life, it would be the Warriors saying, we're not shooting threes. The Ravens refused to run. It is there very

much their DNA. So that's a little bit. You could say, let's be honest, San Francisco got a little bit of a break. They were down 24-7. Kansas City did. Todd Munkin said, I'm not going to run with Lamar Jackson. So both these teams, you know, you get to the Super Bowl, it's physical attrition.

Are you healthy? What are the matchups? San Francisco looked dead to rights against Detroit. I mean, 24-7, and they were being pushed around the field, and then they just have too many good players, and they find a rhythm, and they take the game away. Caught a lucky break with the catch-off-the-face-hask for I-U. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's, you're not getting here all on skill. You need breaks, too.

By the way, the break of, uh, what, Zayflowers diving into the end zone, and Sneed makes it, like, a good play, but, like, a little bit lucky there, right? You score that touch. it's like game on. Raven's at home. We get the momentum. Now, the better teams, it feels like generally get the lucky breaks, right? But I would say both teams here, there were

real moments for both teams here, you thought they weren't going to be here. Which tells you in a salary cap era, there are no great teams. The Niners offensive skills great. Kansas City's defense is great, but you can't buy a perfect roster. I mean, we've been saying this for four years

on San Francisco. It's the best roster. And right now, we don't like their pass rush. So, I mean, there's just no perfect. That's why this game. We like Bosa. We love Bosa. And we like them. Not great.

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the New York Jets. We know their season went poorly. Their quarterback who shall not be named got injured on like the fourth play and that was it. However, owner Woody Johnson is still angry saying they've seen me about as mad as I can be with what was going on. We have all this talent.

We have to deploy it properly. We've got to produce next year. Johnson also took a shot at Zach Wilson. Let's get a hold of this, Colin. The owner said, you need a backup quarterback. We didn't have one last year. Oh, boy. That was the problem for the Jets.

They didn't have a backup quarterback. That was the essence of their issues all season. I mean, how dense is this guy? Well, I mean, as I've said before, I said it last year. I didn't think there were a playoff team, and I think the days of Aaron Rogers being relevant at the highest points of this league are done. Burrell's coming back. Lamar's in his prime.

Herbert has Harbaugh, Mahomes, Josh Allen. I think you think you're getting a used car. 40-year-old, off-in Achilles' surgery with a rookie left tackle. The AFC is different. I mean, I can, listen, C.J. Stroud now is a legit star. Lamar, Trevor, Josh. Two is going nowhere with Mike McDaniels. There's like eight quarterbacks who are getting better.

Joe Burrough, C.J. Stroud. I mean, by the way, Deshaun Watson wasn't great, but his coach just won coach of the year. So you know, you've got an offensive, some, there in Cleveland. I just think it's over. It's not even a shot at Aaron. It's just he moved later in his career to a tougher conference. Tom Brady smartly

did the opposite. He went to the weakest division in football at the end. Brady had it figured out. I'm going to go to the weakest conference and the weakest division in the conference and he dominated it. You have to have someone to want you, right, to go there. I don't know that anybody in the weak

divisions wanted that guy. By the way, perhaps only interesting. to me. I got some texts that said, oh, oh, Dave, your quarterback went on the Joe Rogan podcast. Have you listened to this? And I haven't listened to it yet. Yeah. But I haven't seen any news come out of that at all. Have you?

I haven't seen one headline. Well, it's Super Bowl week. Well, also, he wasn't paid to go on that podcast. He gets paid to talk to a punter weekly, and he's creating all these headlines, his fake headlines. Man, I heard something about Rogers. I think you did, too, at the Super Bowl, at our little

quick trip to the Super Bowl. I'm not going to talk about it yet, but we'll see if it comes out. I think it'll be interesting for some Jets fans to hear what that guy's got going on behind the scenes. Next up, many thought Bill Belichick would land a job this offseason. All those reports said Falcons, Falcons, maybe? Well, Bejohn Robinson was on undisputed today and admitted he thought Belichick was going to Atlanta. That's who I was expecting we were going to hire. Like, I thought I was going to be Bill Belichick.

I mean, obviously he's the greatest coach of all time. So, you know, for me. and I'm always used to the coaches that are strictly business and want to win right away and it'll be tough on you, but that's just what you got to have to handle. So I'm used to that. And I was definitely prepared to have him come as well.

Well, hopefully he will get a coach that more consistently uses him because I think he's tremendous player. I think Bejohn Robinson is really good. What does he say for Rahim Morris? The centerpiece of the offense is like, oh, I thought Belichick was coming here. Well, I mean, here and order there, he was asked a question. I will say this. Demeh Morris, defensive coaches generally, they'll lean, especially if you have a young quarterback.

Just if you play fantasy football, Bejohn Robinson, they're going to get a rookie quarterback or an older veteran. They're going to lean on this run game. Last year, sometimes we would ask ourselves, why aren't they using Robinson more? They had two good backs. You had the quarterback who was not highly efficient. Why aren't they the leading, and they have a good old line. Why aren't they running 50 times a game? I think they're going to lean on that run game next year.

A name just for fun. Raheem Morris was where last year. Was it Rams? Yes, very good. Who did the Rams acquire a quarterback late in the season? Carson Went. Yeah. You think Raheem Morris says,

bring some competition. Carson went, draft a quarter. I don't know. Carson. If you don't want to pay Russell Wilson or Justin Fields, Brayne Morris had an up-close and personal look at Carson Wentz for a couple months there in L.A. Maybe he saw something he liked. Oh, that's interesting.

Is that a name that peaches your interest? That's a good take. All right. It's a weekly good take. You've had two a week now. You've been on a heater. I'm on a heater. Yes.

Final story is the Lakers unfailed their Kobe Bryant statue outside of Crypto.com Arena yesterday. 19 foot tall bronze statue surrounded by five Larry O'Brien trophies. And it features Kobe. You see him pointing with a finger in the air. Walking off the court after he dropped 81 on the Raptors. Vanessa Bryant added there are two more statues of Kobe planned. One of him wearing number 24 and one of him with his daughter, Gianna. Pretty cool moment for the Lakers there, Colin.

The quick odd segue, do you watch the Laker game last night? Very interesting late against him. It was a really good game. Good game. Lakers fought hard, huh? Yokic. Mulmer and Michael Porter and Gordon, Denver's Denver-Layton games can lock you down offensively, defensively. Lakers have very, we talked about this week, very spirited effort.

They matched up with Denver until the end, and Denver's best players took over because they're great. Okay. But it was... Is there a parallel between Mahomes and Kelsey kind of lollygagging through the regular season and then playoffs show up? Well, I think, yeah. dominate and then expect the same from LeBron and AD? Well, also Denver. Denver got shelled by the Knicks, so it's, you know, the NBA regular season is hard to get your brain around because there's all these, I mean, the Lakers have gone out and beaten, you know, O KC in the Clippers.

But Denver last night with the Lakers was a very, very good game. One of the better regular season Laker games I've seen, and I watched the fourth quarter. But boy, when you get down to the end, and I've got Gordon defensively, Porter's had a couple, and Porter played well. He's good. Jamal Murray's O's excellent. And Yokic, man, Denver is I. That's the best starting five in the league. That is a handful. I'm sorry I missed the game.

You know where I was, right? Oh, yeah. Shooting your own bad show. Narrow victory. Big fan of the show on the other team, by the way. Oh, okay. Jay Mack with a news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. I did see this. So, C.J. Stroud won offensive rookie of the year. And so it was funny. Remember when we had the draft and I bring on guys like Lance Zerline. So the scouting community and Lance Zerline said C.J. Stroud's comp, and I thought it was right, was Jared Gough with a little more movement. And remember, where you land matters.

So I was guessing that Houston's such a circus that CJ just wasn't going to be able to overcome the mess. much like his comp, Jared Goff couldn't, first year with the Rams, a Jeff Fisher and a weird offensive staff. Goff was bad. But if you go to Jared Goff's career, his second year when he got a competent offensive staff, Goff's numbers mirror C.J. Stroud's rookie year when he got a competent offensive staff day one.

So it's interesting. There is this sense that, whoa, C. J. Stroud is way better. No, the first staff Gough inherited was a mess offensively. It was like antiquated. He wasn't good enough to overcome it. By his second year, he was flourishing, 28 TD 7 picks. The difference is Domingo Ryan's has been a home run as a coach.

Slowick's a great O.C., but both Goff and C.J. Stroud had excellent left tackles. Gough by the second year, Stroud first. nice pieces and really clever play calling. Goff in his second year, C.J. Stroud in his rookie year. So the scouts know what they're doing. Was I surprised that Stroud was this good, this early? Absolutely. But the comp, if you look at the numbers, the comp is right.

These scouts know what they're doing that Stroud looks like Jared Goff, when Goff finally in year two, with an elite. left tackle and some nice receiving weapons finally had a kind of competent offensive staff and here was CJ after winning rookie of the year last night I want to take the Texas organization all the way to McNair's Nica Seria Denica Rines y'all entrusted in me by drafting me number two and I appreciate that and never go misunderstood I appreciate y'all this honor means a lie into whatever kid that's out here watching you can do anything you put your mind to man I'm a living test

testimony to perseverance and just trusting your goals and your dreams. And I just thank God for this. Thank y'all. C.J. Stroud, and what it really means is another apparent great young quarterback in the AFC, which I said bad news for Aaron Rogers. You already have Mahomes and Allen and Burrow and Lamar and then Russell Wilson comes over and Deshawn Watson now is with a better offensive coach. And here's C.J. Stroud and Anthony Richardson and Shane Steichen. That that group, Justin Herbert's got a legitimate coach. Russell Wilson now if he stays, has a big time offensive coach.

So C.J. Stroud is just another obstacle in the AFC, which is, I don't remember, you could go back a lot of years. If you did top 10 quarterbacks in the NFL, it's overwhelmingly. Stafford's obviously in there. It's an AFC class, and Stroud's another one. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey gang, this is Jay Glazer, host of Unbreakable, a mental wealth podcast. And every week we will have on leaders from sports, entertainment, like Sean McVeigh, Lindsey Vaughn, Michael Phelps, David Spade, Guy Fiery, and also those who can help us in between the ears.

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Don't confuse no credit for a price. appropriate credit. They have an Hall of Fame tight end, running back, potential head coach, left tackle, and whatever Brandon Ayuk and Debo Samuel present is among the very best in the league.

He'll get appropriate credit like he did against the Lions. We said, way to go, kid, great last drive. Green Bay, way to go, kid, didn't play well early, played well late.

So we're going to play blind resume. This is Brock Purdy, two come from behind wins, his 2023 this year postseason. Remember last year he played Philly, got hurt early, disappointing. I thought San Francisco had a chance to win, but he got banged up, came into this season, arm issue, fixed it, and he's had a heck of a season. So here we go, blind resume, Brock Purdy, 2023 postseason verse, who is it? So his postseason has been 61.5 completion percentage, two touchdown passes, one pick with these great players, and a passer rating of 87.7.

His comp is almost perfectly aligned across the board. And that's Daniel Jones postseason last year. Look what we can do here. All right. Beautiful. I like it. Look what we can do here or look at the data that's accurate here. Three game sample size, yes.

There we go to another one. Daniel Jones, by the way, you all think he's a bummo. He is. So we know what Pretty presents here. again, sorry radio audience, 61% completion percentage to touchdowns, one pick. Now, this quarterback is a little higher passer rating. Three touchdown, no picks. Not quite as accurate, though.

Brock is more accurate, but Brock isn't as good in all the rest of the categories. And this quarterback is Blake Bordell, who is seen as a liability for a talented Jags roster. That is hysterical. Blake Bordel. The immortal Blake Bortals. I heard he's working at Outback Steakhouse right now. Which is stop. Can you be nice? That's a joke. I'm sorry.

Outback Steakhouse is excellent. He had Blake Bortles at the 35 touchdown passes in one season. He was good for a minute. All right. Let's go. So Daniel Jones and Blake Bortles. So this next quarterback, who blows him away with completion percentage. Over two times the touchdown passes,

more yards attempt, and a 108.6, pass already. So Purdy's not even in this guy's league in the playoffs. Who's this? What we got here? Jordan Love. Your boy. I don't know. I saw them play head to head. You would acknowledge Jordan Love is better. For three quarters. Yeah, who was better in the fourth when it mattered most? Who got his team down the field? Got the game winning Tuddy. Tuddy. All right, let's do another one. Here we go. Blind resume. So this, oh my. So we know Purdy's postseason numbers. This quarterback,

Three touchdowns, no picks. Better passer rating. Much more yards per attempt. Let's see who this postseason quarterback is. Tim. Stop it. Get that off the screen right now. That is not.

That is accurate. Let me get it off the screen. Oh, I got tears in my eyes. No, let's go on. Let's go on. The Denver game against Pittsburgh. He was facing Dick Lippo. The numbers are against the greatest, you know, one of the great defensive

coordinators at all the time. Aillard of the middle. Oh, Marius Thomas. That's who Carter was. Yeah, it was a great play. It was an amazing play. All right, let's go again. You got another one here.

This is fun. Oh, now this is pretty close. This quarterback is just slightly better than Purdy in the postseason. Passer rating, TD interception completion. It's really close. And this young man or old man has only played two postseason games as Jason tries to trump the great talent of Brock Purdy. Who's only played, you know, we only have a couple playoffs. games. Oh, this is Mitch Trebisky.

Stop. Is that really? I didn't know who that was. So Mitch Trubisky is a better playoff quarterback. Don't say stop. Tebow is a better playoff quarterback. Blake Bordels is. And remember, Trent Williams, Kiddle, Debo, IU, Christian McCaffrey, Shanahan. You give him a homes that? It's a 15 point spread. Let's do one more. We have one more.

One more two-game sample size. Let's hire. And that was Trebisky's career, by the way. That wouldn't even play out. His career. His career. Oh, career playoffs, career, whatever. All right, final one. Again, this is very, very even. This is almost a dead heat.

Purdy against this. I mean, the numbers are a dead heat. Here we go. You guys are all running Garoppel out of town, and you want Purdy to be the MVP. All right. Are we done with two game sample sizes, Colin? Are we done? All right.

I'm just saying, everybody says he won't get credit. If you win to get appropriate credit, we were trying to think of this. this morning. And it was a thought exercise. And I was trying to think of an offense in my life that had this good of an offensive coach running back, tight end, two elite receivers, best left tackle and football, arguably. I couldn't come up with one. I couldn't. Now, there were, there was a Raider team that had Cliff Branch and Bolitnikoff and Dave Casper. I don't know who their left tackle was, but I think it was a Kenny Stabler was the quarterback. There was an off, The Raiders had Mark Van Egan, I think, was the running back.

Come on. Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Dwight Clark. Come on. Niners had stacked teams for Montana. It's loaded. And Montana would fly through the playoffs and has four rings. I'm just looking to see if Purdy can get one. This is fun.

This is. So here's, you know, another thought exercise. And I'm sorry we don't have the graphic built. So I was, Cam Newton invited me on his podcast. so I was preparing all this interesting stuff. Have you looked at Matt Ryan's MVP year with Shanahan? It was sensational. It was awesome.

Look at Purdy's numbers this year with Shanahan, and the numbers are not identical, but very damn close. Yeah, but the difference is Matt Ryan didn't have an all-star Hall of Fame cast at all the key positions. Well, except for Julio Jones, yeah. I mean, Julio Jones's first ballot Hall of Fame lock. I mean, I'm telling you, you can probably give me an example. I'd go back to the 70 Raiders. And Mark Van Egan is not Christian McCaffrey and not close.

He was more of a fullback. That's the running back I can remember. It sounds like a character in a movie. Is that really a football player? Mark Van Egan? Mark Van Egan, Dave Casper, Cliff Branch, Fred Belichick, McAfee. Yeah. All right.

I don't. Was Eugene Upsaw? Was he? No, I'd love. He was like a lineman, I think. Right? He was offensive. I don't know.

I don't know all the Raiders O lineman. Jim Otto was a center, I know. The issue with Purdy, he doesn't get a credit when they win. Find appropriate credit. But when they lose, it's possible. dial on. Now, here's the funny thing. You know, Purdy hasn't really lost a playoff game. He did get the loss

against the Eagles when he was injured. He got hurt. That's not fair. So we'll find out. When the Chiefs win, are you going to go to the parade when Kansas City wins? You and Nick? You know, I'm not I don't have Kansas City on my docket this year. I have a lot of travel. I just don't know if I could get that. Tough to squeeze in. But tough to squeeze

in. I mean, Chiefs are such a lock, right? You know, like, they're just going to win this game handily? No, I don't think anybody. That's what everybody says. I mean, first of all, the over-under is 47. So what it's telling you is Vegas, and it has Kansas City as a two-point dog. Vegas is telling you the game's going to be like 24-23. That's what Vegas is telling you.

That's what the game's going to be around there, 24-23. And if it is, then I would take Kansas City. I think I predicted 24-21. I do have a concern with the Chiefs. We saw Travis Kelsey hobble this year. If he got hurt in this game, I don't know what their weapons are. They become a completely run dominant offense, and that's about it. Whereas you could lose a kiddle on the third series, and you're like, I got Debo, I got I, Youx.

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