The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - The Blazin' 5

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

He looks at the Rams vs Eagles as well the National Championship between Ohio State and Notre Dame in this week's Blazin' 5. Plus, 2-time Super Bowl champion LeSean McCoy joins the show in studio to defend Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni and what he expects to see in the Lamar Jackson v Josh Allen showdownSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Not messing around. It's a Friday. We didn't wear casual clothes. This is my best shirt. We're ready to go on a Friday. I got my blazing four. I'm not touching Lions, commanders. Lines up to 10.

I don't like those games. I'm staying away from that thing. Good to have you in. So, Shady McCoy, in a couple of minutes. You've got your picks next hour. Many people believe this is the best weekend of the year in football. Divisional round playoffs. Next weekend's championship, and then you get a couple weeks off for the Super Bowl.

We'll be in New Orleans for the Super Bowl, getting there Wednesday. You've got to get on Shady's case. I think I saw him pick the Raven. Didn't he play for the Buffalo Bills at one point? Doesn't matter. He's a journalist now. Come on, he's got to take the bills here. He's got to see clarity and the truth.

All right, here we go. Not that many games. I'm picking four. Fire away. That's a hot one. Let's Blaze It Off. It's Collins Blazing Five, sponsored by Draft Kings. Texans and Chiefs

Listen, I don't love 8 and a half, but I'm going to swallow it, I'm going to lay it, and take Kansas City. Two of their last three wins have come by 10 plus points, undefeated at home, 13 and 4 off a buy under Andy Reed and they don't give the ball away anymore, seven straight games without a giveaway.

C.J. Stroud has never been the same quarterback on the road, warm weather team, in really cold weather. And I also think the Texans benefited from those interceptions against Justin Herbert. That's not going to happen. They're missing. Two of their top three receivers. Joe Mixon's banged up.

And if you look at C.J. Stroud on the road versus teams that made the playoffs in his career. O. and five, passer rating at 71. I think the Chiefs win by nine. I wish the number was better. 32.21.

Take Kansas City. Rams at Eagles. It's my favorite bet of the weekend. I like Philadelphia. In clement weather is going to favor the better O-line, the better run game. I mean, they held the number eight scoring offense Packers to 10 points in the wild card

win. They have the number one offensive line and the number two rushing offense and they're going to give it to Sequin Barclay, who's been on a heater, seven of his last eight games plus 100 yards. The Rams, listen, they took advantage of a bad O line and they've got a very good defensive line. They were at home. Now it's a short week.

They allowed 124 big plays this year so you can beat him downfield, and let's be honest. Matt Stafford in his career. Rain and Snow games, one in eight. He is not the same quarterback. Eagles win 28 to 20, pull away in the second half.

Ravens at Bills. I like the Bills. 9 and 0 at home. They lead the NFL with 13 games of 30 plus points, and they don't give the ball away. They're like Kansas City. They're very clean. Fewest giveaways and fewest sacks allowed in the NFL season, which is wild for how a dynamic they are as an offense. Josh Allen's been a good

playoff quarterback. Lamar Jackson, three and four in his playoff career. He's missing Zay Flowers, who may play but hasn't practiced. I've got to be honest. In a big playoff spot, Lamar's been a bit tense. He's gotten better, but a bit tense, a little anxious.

Josh Allen has been great. I just think, I think Buffalo, my guest today, I think Buffalo wins the Super Bowl. That's my take. I think this is the best version Josh Allen's had. I'm going to take the points and take Buffalo 28 to 24. Ohio State versus Notre Dame.

I'm taking the under 46.5. I'm going to stay away from the spread. These are unbelievable defenses. If you go look at Ohio State, they held Texas to 14 points. They held nine straight appointments to 21 points or fewer. And the Irish are missing a couple offensive linemen. We don't think they'll play. And their offense is okay.

Notre Dame. Meanwhile, lead the country with 33 takeaways. unbelievably well coached on defense. Excellent secondary. Opposing quarterbacks had 12 passing touchdowns and 19 interceptions. They, Will Howard can lose his confidence. So Notre Dame and Ohio State, if you look at their defensive rankings this year, you're looking at crem de la crem.

Points allowed, they were one and two. Passing yards allowed, one and two. I don't think Notre Dame has the offensive firepower to win, but I'm going to take the under 46 and a half points. Draft King's Sportsbook, America's top-readed sports book, $200 in bonus bets,

instantly betting just five. The promo code is heard. H-E-R-D. So I still can't believe the Buffalo Bills are getting points at home. And I know the wise guys like Baltimore, and I know you can run the football on the bills. I get that.

But I'm going to take a couple of big favorites to cover the Chiefs and Eagles. Take the under on Notre Dame Ohio State. And with that, a couple of championships, Shady McCoy. You see him on the facility is now joining us. You've got some good pitch, man. Well, that's how I see the world. Let me ask you a serious question, all right? All right, serious question.

You know, I'm known from time to time, Jader. You know. Okay. I want to know how well do you normally do? Well, I had a very bad year because we talked about this. Favorites did very well this year, and I like underdogs. I like favorites. Well, you had a good year then.

Yes, I did. So, but has the playoffs have started, now I'm taking in college football, I'm taking favorites. Okay. So I want to ask you about the Rams and Eagles. I said this, you know Philadelphia well. So there's always a couple in your social circle. Yeah. Or a family.

And you fight and you argue and you're like, these people don't like each other. Right. And yet, nobody gets divorced. Yeah. Stay together forever. Still kind of. And you're like, they're always battling. Roe was fighting.

And I think to myself with Nick Seriani. He looks ornery, tired, he's feisty, but so is Philadelphia. That's right. Doug Peterson was too chill. Yeah. And Chip Kelly was a little West Coast, you know, remote. And here's Nick who'd get in a fistfight with you if I wasn't for Big Dom. And my takeaway is, maybe I'm wrong, is that Nick Seriani is Philly.

He acts like Philly. He's emotional like Philly. And the players and the fans' feet of him. They love Nick Seriani. You know, and who loves him the most are the players. Every player I ask from the role players to the superstars, right, to the franchise guys, they love Nick Siriani. He's that type of coach where you can relate to him, right? They have an issue in the locker room, you can talk to him, and he's fired up in the games and practice, and you see it.

One thing about Nick Seriani is like he's the type of guy, he wears his emotions on his sleeve. Yes. And I think in Philadelphia is that type of place. There's a lot of players, there's a lot of coaches that can't coach or play in Philadelphia. The media is too tough. The fans are too tough, right? Things get aggressive. It's a tough city.

And Nick Seriana is perfect for it. And this is a reason why it's not an accident that this guy is a winner. Every year he's been in Philadelphia, he's been to the playoffs. He's been to took this team to the Super Bowl. Right? We look at Jalen Hertz, how far he's come from his rookie season to right now. And a lot of credit goes, Nick Siriani. You talk about getting the players in there.

A lot of that has to do with Howie Rosewin, the GM, but also Nick Seriana and him working together, getting them players. Find a guy like Jalen Carter to be. that most dominant guy on defense and football. So, like I said, a million great things about Nick Seriani. I would love, if I was playing, I would love for him to be my coach. You know, I think the Rams are a little like the Packers. I think they're another draft away.

I think they need a corner or left tackle. I think they need a speed receiver. I think they probably need another defensive tackle. They're a very young defense. Philadelphia gets in your head. Woo! I mean, were you ever on a team or when you were an E? Eagle that you faced a team

and they were good, but they were young and Philly on a Saturday or Sunday in a playoff. It's just too big for them. Yeah, I can see that. Like, as we're speaking in its existence, I could see how you come off a big win, right? You beat the Vikings out of the whole. And you had nine sacks. Right.

Everything is going on in L.A. with the wildfires and all these sacks. Everybody played well. And now, everybody's like, yo, the Rams might be a team that can potentially beat the big time Eagles. Right. So you get to Philadelphia. And that weather comes in to play with the snow and get them fans involved. And then you

see that running game again. See, one thing about football players, you don't really like forget. And as good as the Rams team did against who they play, the Vikings, when you play the Eagles is different. Like, we played it before,

we are running back at 255 yards rushing. Like, that did happen. If you really watch that game, you see how the offensive line really controlled the line of scrimmage. Well, Seekwon could have had another 40 yards rushing. He sat down. He sat down. So I just think that like you didn't forget that. In this game, right, where in football you get paid a lot, a lot of money to kick butt, right? I want you to dominate this other guy on the other side of the field and we do that best.

Now I think Jaylor Hertz has a better performance than he did against the Packers. They are in trouble. They are in trouble. I'm going to ask you a question. This is a weird question. Okay. I can assure you you've never been asked this because as I watched Seekwan Barclay. when you're a running back and you go through the hole and you know violence is coming do you look for shades of colors so I watched Sequin a couple of times against Green Bay and he didn't look directly at the defender

you never do but it was as if he just sees from his peripheral vision a color so when you were doing that how do you see players coming through a gap but your head's here do you get sort of in tuned and It becomes part of your style that you're just moving away from the colors on the teeth. Because I don't know how he makes so many damn people miss without seeing them.

Jay, you know what's crazy? I don't know, man. You might in your other life be a running back because that's how we see it, right? The best running backs are the running backs that fill it, right? And you see color. You never look at the person. If I look at the defender, he sees me, I see him, then he can. So you see color.

You see color. You feel and you see color. So as I'm running through the hole, right, you don't look at it, but you see the guy coming. He's coming full-speed, and you jump cut to the right. You get what I'm saying? If you watch Sequan Barkley, he always reacts to what the defense does. The one play you had, I guess, the Green Bay, right?

It was the first, so they fumbled the first kickoff, right? The next run, I think Seacquan got about 12 yards to the left. The play was to the right. He felt the color shift into the right. He makes his jump-cut and spins to the left. That's what the running back does. The best running backs, they feel and they see not players, they see color. You know what?

it's a little like, I'm so out of my element here, but I love you. You close though. You want it. I was shifty. But it's almost like, I've seen this before. If you get into a hip-hop space in the studio, and somebody's got the melody and you're just kind of riffing. That's true, yes.

That's a little bit the running back's life. That you're kind of like, give me the melody, give me the hole, and I'm going to kind of ad-lib and riff, and there's some basic things like basic lyrics I have in my head, but I'm going to kind of ad lib through the melody, and that's how I see a running back.

Totally right. And there's so many different types of running backs. Like a guy like Derek Henry, he's just different, right? He doesn't mind contact. He doesn't mind it. So he'll look at that guy, okay, we'll bring it on. But a guy like Sequin, because he is big, but he is so explosive. And

when you get a defender that you don't look at, right, and you don't make eye contact. You can keep full speed. Keep full speed, because he don't know that you see him. Matter of fact, the first long run he had against the ramp. He ran up the holes a big hole runs through it and as the safety is coming right Sequin doesn't even look at him okay? He feels that color. He jumps cut to the right and it was a touchdown Like that's a simple example of not really like looking at the defender but filling him and knowing he's there

It's like it's like you're selling something to somebody right you're making a defender believe That I don't see you and I'm running straight and you think you're gonna hit me right? As soon you get so close then I jump cut because I felt that color and if you watch a lot of Sequin Barclays running man, he just shows you like... He doesn't look at defenders, and yet pivots. He feels like he's setting everybody up. He's like a chess player, the two moves ahead. And Sequin, probably thinking right now, like coward,

when I want to talk about running backs, I go to county. He might call you. He might call you first before you call me. Okay, Ravens Bills. Oh, that's a good one, baby. Okay. Here's a thing. They're both great.

Let's get over it. And Lamar's gotten better in the last couple of playoffs. Yes, he has. He's been a bit tight. And we've seen this with baseball players, Barry Bonds, A-Rod, where they're just, they get golfers on the 18th. Get a little in your head. People on TV talking about it every day and a weekie.

And as a player, you try to block it out, you hear it. Everywhere you go, social media, grocery stores. You know the match up. You hear the rumors. You're their narrative. Can you win playoff games? Josh hears it. Lamar definitely hears it.

So they hear them things. When you ever got nervous, forget about playing better or worse. How did it affect your game? Was there a game where you were anxious? Did it affect your game? You're tentative. I mean, because I do feel sometimes he's a bit tentative. Aaron Rogers could do this.

If he threw a pick in a big game, he'd get a little safe. Aaron wouldn't let it rip. Sam Darnold against the Rams a couple times. After he got sacked, you could tell. Yes. Yeah. That's a different story. But I give what you're saying, and I think every player, especially the superstars, they go through this, because all the pressure is on you, right?

If the, I don't know, if the slot cornerback has a bad game for the Ravens, we're not going to come on TV and talk about it. We're going to talk about the main guys. And I think sometimes with a lot of the superstar players, like the Josh Allen's and Lamar's, you're talking about the Patch Mahones and actually played with these two guys, Josh and Pat. There's sometimes in games, they got to calm down, right? You get anxious. You can't wait. You've been waiting all week for this game. It's the only game on TV everybody's watching.

Every neighborhood, every neighbor is watching this game. So you kind of get antsy. And then there's something you got to relax. Okay, let's calm down. Might take a series or two. So sometimes you had to like. Oh, for sure. There's times in a game where I can't wait the ball out, right?

And maybe my first carry, you know, I'm stepping over my feet. I'm not really comfortable. Right. And then I get hit. Okay. Okay, Shady McCoy, calm down, relax. And then I get back to this to basics and playing my day. That's interesting.

There's a clip on the internet with Belichick telling Brady earlier in the Super Bowl. He's like, hey, settle down. Calm down. Step into the ball. The simple thing, that's the basics. That's right. But you get so anxious. Oh, man, he's open.

Take it easy. And same with running backs. Okay, now, I'm not going to talk Chiefs, Lions, they're heavy favorites. I'm going to get to two other things. Dion was about a 500 coach in college, but I do think he has a connection to players that other coaches don't have.

Yes, he do. Tell me why, I take it you think it would work and you would hire him. I would. I think especially players in the NFL, it's about a respect thing. There's a lot of players that may play for a coach because this is my job, right? And I have to do this. My job is run the ball, block, I do everything.

Sometimes you have coaches that whatever he says, if I think it's right or wrong, I'm going to do it because I have that type of respect for him. That's who Dion Sanders is. That's the prime time. Players respect Coach Prime, what he stands for. Another guy, Andy Reid, Andy Reid could tell everybody, hey, man, go out there and run through the wall. And 99% of players are going to do that because they got that type of respect. Another thing is relating to the players.

There's sometimes where certain coaches, they really can't relate to these players. Andy Reid could, right? I think Belichick later in his years, that's why things kind of went south, because he really can't relate to the players. It's either my way or the highway. Well, that's not always the case in people you work with or in football. And I think Coach Prime brings the element to the players where I can really relate to him. I can talk him about anything. And the next big thing is I think about what the Cowboys, they have an issue with the ownership as far as can people work with Jerry Jones, right?

Mike McCarthy, really good coach. I think it was more of Jerry says this. That's how we're going to do it. Jason Garrett, another one, right? Whatever he says we're going to do. But J-Mack says that's not going to work with Deion. I think with you know that's not going to work with him. When you have the interview with Coach Prime, right, first of all,

The last thing when a championship, I was on your team, so you know how I get down. I think when you bring Coach Prime in the office and interview him, it's not going to go just, hey, whatever Jerry wants to do, what's what we're doing? Because it's a sense of respect. Coach Prime has the aura and respect that you're going to give him because of who he is, right? If I want to draft this player, but you might not want to, it's my team. You get what I'm saying? I think they can really work together. I think Jerry needs somebody that can host him accountable.

There's some things he might say in interviews and media about some coaches. Where I don't think he's going to say that about Dion. because it's a sense of respect. And the last thing is, Jerry likes money. He likes to be talked about. He likes to make his money. You're telling me the things that Coach Palmer has done for Colorado, right? And that town, that city, that team, the money they're making all the, all the tension they're getting.

You bring up the Dallas Cowboys and you can win. Because I'm not even talking about the winning part. Jackson State, he got there, they started winning. Colorado, they won one game before he got there. Now there's something to talk about their winning team. So you bring the winning aspect to the Cowboys. And then the financial part, Jerry loves all that. I think they have a really good matchup together.

I just hope it happens. Finally, Caleb Williams came out this week. And without demanding it, he said it, and I thought it was smart. And they ask him what he wants. And he goes, well, you know, leader of men, which, what the hell is that mean? But he said, you know, it'd be nice to have an offensive coach I could grow with. What he was saying is, give me an offensive coach like college. Did you think it mattered?

Now, you're a running back, but still, did you feel it was different when you had an offensive coach, not a defense, now at college you had once that, you had a defensive coach. So as an offensive coach, does it feel different in the locker room, in the meeting room, film room?

Yeah. Does it feel different? Especially when you have an offense that's struggling, that you have an offense where you go, the number one pick and super talented guy like Caleb Williams, you want to surround him with some office geniuses. I look at guys like, Sean McVeigh,

whatever people thought, about Jared golf, right? When he's with the Rams, before Sean McVeigh, you see the difference. You know what I'm saying? You see how he's changed for him. Andy Reid, another guy that's super, super smart. Alex Smith, he's with the diners. Whatever

you're the narrative was with him, he got to the Chiefs, they were winning. He still was productive. I think Kelly Williams is really, really talented. I think he needs to be around an office of mine that can really help him out. Make the game easier for him. You look over there with the Detroit lines right now, Jerry Golf is playing phenomenal. But I think you need the

talent, which the Bears have, right? The Robbster's running backs, right? Then you need the coaching. If you watch some of the Lions games, a lot of that is talent, right? But a lot of that is like play calling. Like, wow, did you see that play? And you see it over and over again with the Lions. You bring that type of coordinator to the Bears, and he's the head coach.

Everything's going to be offense first, right? I think the Bears for some of years, defense has been a good thing for him. Oh, since the 80s. But with Andy Reid, like, I remember being with him is, we're going to draft him and Brett Veach, the GM. We're going to draft some offensive guys because that's what we are. You get what I'm saying? So now that's the approach.

I think it would be good for them to have a good coordinator as far as the head coach for him. All right. Love having you on the show. That's so comfortable, man. Like this is, you know what I mean? It's like my therapy right here, huh? It's therapeutic. I love.

Who's that guy right there, though? Well, that's you. Do you like snow games? Do you like snow games? Yeah, you love snow games because it doesn't hurt when you fall. No, like pillows. I do think that's going to be the biggest difference from that game against the ring. playing that type of element in the snow we're used to that we play outdoors it was cold

as hell against the Packers what's the difference we ready to go Jay let's do it who won't win you better you know I'm with you I'm okay hey you need to show everybody your Eagles dance you want to stand up and I saw you doing it you see it earlier check out check out my oh okay Shitty McCoy on Instagram or try the Eagles we got the hype video we're ready to go baby it's time to hunt Philly let's go and Jalen Hurts will have a big game, this game against the Rams. Yes, he will.

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This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing. a bit for the podcast for people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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which just talked about the weather in Philly, and boy, it looks like it's going to be cold, 34 degrees. But it doesn't seem that the Rams are daunted. Rookie defensive end, Jared, versed throughout a little bulletin board material saying, I hate Eagles fans. They're so annoying.

When I see that green and white, I hate it, I actually get upset, genuinely get hot. Oh, my. talking trash. I had it going into Philly. This kid is the next great edge rusher in the NFL. He is unbelievable. Has looked pretty damn good.

Matt Stafford struggles in bad weather. Kairn Williams a little banged up. I think Philly's run game. I think Phillies run game's a story. I do think it's got a chance to be a little low scoring early. I think these are very, very good defenses. I think there'll be a feeling out process. Eagles have been a little chilly in the first quarter of scoring.

And by the way, the Rams, despite what you watched last week, have been a slow starting offensive about half their games. Especially outdoors. Yep. So I think it's going to be a low-scoring first half, but eventually the Eagles pull away. First half, under 22 and a half. Here are some Stafford numbers in the rain and snow, Colin.

That is abysmal. Now, we should say he spent a bunch of his career in Detroit playing on bad Lions team, so that's baked into this. I'm with you. I think the Eagles are the side. I can see the Rams making an interest. I just, I like the Eagles. I'm what you call it.

Next up is the 49ers, the big offseason ahead for Brock Purdy, one of the top 10 quarterbacks in the NFL. Purdy and the Niners have both said they won a long-term deal. But 49ers beat reporter David Lombardi believes Purdy is in line to land a wait for it, $305 million deal. Averaging a record-breaking 61-mill. annually putting him just behind Mahomes in terms of total

value. Now, I'm going to let that sink in $305 million for Brock Purdy would put him just ahead of Burrow and behind Mahomes which is the highest pay. Let me ask the question I always asked. What do you think

his rivals think? What do you think the Rams think of that? You know what the Rams are doing right now? Crystal. I don't think they're chugging Christal. but cartwheels perhaps. Listen, I just... I mean, that's... What am I missing?

Maybe there's a capologist in San Francisco who's got some answers that we're just not privy to, we don't know. But the idea that he's going to be at 61 mil, that's a little terrifying in bombin on the other thing. You're going to become the cowboys. I mean, seriously, you're going to become the cowboys. There's no room for error at all.

None. You can make a mistake on every position. You can overpay a safety. You can overpay a receiver. But if you're overpaying a quarterback, you're talking 60 million instead of 38. You're done. That's like four players. Here's the kicker. He's making, what, like $900,000 this year?

That has to be one of the biggest leaps in NFL history. He's last pick in the draft, you know, seventh rounder, making, I think, $900,000, somewhere in that ballpark. To $61 million? Do you know what that's going to do to your roster? I don't. We must be missing something. Maybe you can book this Lombardi guy for next week.

But I just, I don't see how this is feasible or why the Niners would want this. I just, I'm not doubting the writer. I would, I'm rarely shocked in our business. That seems outrageous to me. And I'm a Brock Purdy guy, you know that. Two years here I've been trying to beat you over the head with Brock Pretty Positive News. Final story is not great, Colin. It's to the NBA where former Seattle Supersonics legend Gus Williams,

who led them to their only title in 1979 has passed away at the age of 71. William said two all-star appearances, one all-NBA first team pick in 1982. Yep. And my favorite player, the wizard, USC guy. So for Seattle Sonic fans, it was, you know, Jack Sigma, Marvin Webster, DJ, Lonnie Shelton, John Johnson. He was for a short period of time, unstoppable in the NBA, the long wristbands. he wore like three wristbands in a row. And I'll tell you, he was so unique as an offensive player.

So he was one of those players that was six-two. Like he was a point guard that scored. So you had DJ at one guard who was one of the first great defensive guards. Dennis Johnson. Dennis Johnson, who could also score. And then they were a tough physical team with Lonnie Shelton and Jack, Sickman, Marvin Webster. But the wizard was like a point guard, but a score. He had a little bit of Alan Iverson where you're like, yeah, he'll do the scoring.

and run your offense. So it's like a little bit like Lamar Jackson where, oh, he's your best back and he's your quarterback. I talked to Paul Silas once, and I said, Paul Silas played with him, and I think their championship year when they beat the Washington Bullets with Kevin Grevy, one Wes Unsell, Bill Sheneer, Elvin Hayes, Bobby Dandrich.

And I asked him, I said, Paul, am I nuts? I think he's the most underrated player in NBA history. And he goes, man, you're not going to get an art. argument from me. He goes, I saw him every day at practice. And back then, you had to listen to radio. Bob Blackburn was the voice of the Sonic. So a lot of Gus's games you saw on the road. But I'm telling you, this guy, Mount Vernon, New York, which is where Jim Calhoun in Connecticut, did a lot of their recruiting to build that dynasty in Yukon.

This guy is an all-time talent. Do yourself a favor. Go to YouTube today and watch The Wizard, Gus Williams. As a kid who grew up with the Seattle Sonics, he hit downtown Freddie Brown off the bench. those teams were so fun, long distance, great pacing. I don't know if the guys that preceded him, but he'd get the ball in the break, and it was like, there was an Iverson thing, like he could score, he could pass, he could lead the break, just so much fun to watch.

From those videos, he looked like a mid-range assassin. Oh, he was unbelievable. He was a free-throw. Is that why you love the mid-range? Because of the best-well. Well, he was the free throw. He was, that team was a mid-range team. It was a, he was free-throw extended.

it was money. He was, you know, he had a little bit, he was much more athletic than Alex English, but Alex English was a player I loved. It was a forward. Like Gus, he was thin, he could handle the ball, and Alex English made a living on 14 footers, not dunks. And so everybody at that time was watching Dr. J and all these,

you know, these high-flying players. Gus didn't dunk. He loved the layer. Didn't dunk, didn't shoot three. Well, I don't even- But let me give you a part. I'll tell a story. He could have dunk.

So Gus Williams could have dunk. I'm watching Como News. in Seattle as a kid. Coma News 4 in Seattle, and Harry Sloan was a reporter, and he's doing a report, a package. And I never saw Gus Williams dunk. I didn't know if he could, never saw it. And they're behind him as Gus Williams at practice,

and Gus grabs a ball, as Harry's doing his report, and just, it's a loose ball on the ground, and he grabs it, does it over-the-head dunk. Oh, a little reverse. Backwards. And I'm like, okay. Like, you, I thought he was great, and I'm like, Gus Williams could have dunked all.

John Stockton wasn't dunking. Steph Curry could dunk, but he doesn't. Gus had so much talent, but he always kept it in the tank. He always had another gear. I feel like I just got in a Colin Cowhert time machine and got a window. I'm sorry. I apologize everybody. No, no, that's good. Go off. You know, that's fun. Johnny Bench, Steve

Largett, and Gus Williams. That's who I grew up with. Johnny Bench Baseball. Who was the next one? Steve Largett and wide receiver and Gus Williams. Those were my stars growing up, that I absolutely loved. George Brett. Kansas City was another. I was more of a national guy. Patrick Ewing, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jvard.

Anybody could like those guys. I know, exactly. Well, I was growing up in the Washington Bullets area. They were terrible. All I did was make fun of their players. I mean, they win like 25 games every. Anybody under 55, I apologize for the last four minutes. But it was a part of my childhood. Gus Williams, the Wizard. We don't have like an MSNBC audience where the average age is 70. Come on. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays and New Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, is Steve Kavino. And I'm Rich Davis.

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Jaden Daniels looks to continue an incredible rookie season as he leads the commanders against Jared Gough and the top-seated Lions in a divisional playoff matchup tomorrow at 7.30 Eastern on Fox. This is sort of a damning quote coming from Diana Rusini. I'm going to read you this quote. it'll be on the TV screen, but for our radio audience, here's the quote. Jerry Jones was not expecting Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys to go separate ways. The plan was to bring him back. They did not have a plan in place here. So a lot of this is scrambling from what I can gather or just,

I need to figure out how to fix this quickly. And so now we're seeing the coaches get called in for Dallas. So Diana Rusini reporting that Mike McCarthy and the agent Don Yee caught them off guard. Now we had Jordan Schultz yesterday. I believe what happened is once Mike Vrable signed with New England, McCarthy was the best coach on the market if he was going to leave. And I think Don Yee, his agent said, go ask for the moon. Go ask for five years guaranteed. And Jerry will say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

no, that's not going to work. And then Mike said, okay, okay, okay, I'm going to go, you know, I'll be fine, Jair. And then he realized he was the number one coach on the market with Caleb Williams potentially available. I think Mike McCarthy looked at Drake May and, and Caleb Williams as very interesting. But he didn't think he had a shot to get the New England job because of Rable's connection to Robert Kraft. So I've said this. I think Mike McCarthy is upgrading

because you say to yourself, well, you know, the Chicago Bears, they're very dysfunctional. Well, the Cowboys now have become very dysfunctional. I didn't think that six years ago. I didn't think that four years ago. But increasingly, they've become dysfunctional.

So when you start looking at some of these numbers, the last time the Cowboys won a playoff game, you know, they're in that Jets territory now. You know, Jags, Jets, Browns, Bear, you know, that weird. The last time they, you know, won multiple playoff games. So you can't deny that.

So, you know, and let's be honest about this. I know he's on Landman, and he is, was a wild catar. Jerry hasn't won a lot of negotiations recently. The Jalen Smith's running back, not good. The DAC, not good. You know, it's for being known as a great negotiator, the DAC contract, I thought he got worked. Twice. I think he's been worked by DAC and his people.

And I think Mike McCarthy worked him here. Now, again, you can point at Chicago and roll your eyes, but Caleb Williams on a rookie deal or DAC at $60 million, who would you take? I'm taking Caleb Williams. Now, Caleb may not work, but he's more talented. That's indisputable. They're much more talented. And I also think, and I think, listen, I have moved three or four times

in my life cross-country. So, you know, a lot of people don't, and that's fine. But McCarthy now has moved a lot. So McCarthy's gone Green Bay. McCarthy was somewhere before Green Bay. Then Green Bay. Then Dallas. Now he's moving again.

And when you do move, you look at a lot of little things that people don't think they matter. But I think Mike McCarthy looked at Dax contract. I think he looked at recent, the last couple of drafts, the Cowboys have really butchered their first pick in the first round. The O line's not very good. they got one weapon. And I think he looks at Philadelphia's roster. And I also think he watches Jaden Daniels and thinks,

hell, if the New York Giants get Cam Ward or should do her Sanders, we could be in big trouble here. It's a quarterback league. And so I think Mike smartly, Mike McCarthy looked at this and thought, you know, and some of it maybe is Jerry's arrogance. Hey, you're coaching for the Dallas Cowboys. But remember, Mike McArthur. McCarthy doesn't own any part of the Dallas Cowboys.

He doesn't care about merchandise sales. You know what I mean? I don't own any part of Fox. You know what I mean? Like, I work at Fox. Mike McCarthy works for Dallas. He's an employee. So Jerry sees it's different for Jerry.

It's a different, you know, it's a different environment, a different reality. You're just an employee. So, and the other thing is, is I think Jerry wanted to bring Mike McCarthy back, but Jerry wanted it on a short-term. deal and McCarthy just said, I want five. Sometimes in negotiations you ask for stuff that you think you can get, but you probably

won't. And sometimes you ask for stuff if you want to leave that you know you can't get. I want blankety blank. We're not giving you that. Well, that's what I want. So there's a lot of game playing in this stuff, and I think McCarthy did a really good job. You know, if you go back, there's a cowboy survey that's

out right now among the fan base. Let's put that on the screen. So this, from the athletic, this is from cowboy fans. And fans tend to be more favorable to local teams. Cowboy fans aren't. They did not approve 78% of cowboy fans, almost 79, did not approve of the way Jerry handled the McCarthy decision. That is a number, man.

And then the second graph from the athletic survey, the Cowboys fan survey, was, do you believe the Cowboys are moving in the right direction? That was 6%. You're not sure what to think you're hoping for the best. That was 40%. Or the franchise is lost. There's no reason for hope, 54%.

Now, it is the NFL, so there's always hope. You can go from the Texans to the playoffs very, very quickly. The Chargers to the Chargers very, very quickly. So there's always hope. Who would you like to see the Cowboys higher as of right now? So this is interesting. The Cowboy fans would like to see Ben Johnson. And a lot of people got like 6, 7, 10%.

Ben Johnson, 22%. Mike Tomlin, 16, Dion 16, Belichick 8, Kellynne Moore 7, Pete Carroll, so Ben Johnson's the hot coordinator, seen as young, smart, cool. I would like to inform cowboy fans. He will not be bringing the Lions'

offensive line or run game. So the Lions' offensive line is first or second in the league, and their running back room is the most talented in the league. The Cowboys' running back room is the least talented in the NFL, and they're all lines somewhere in the bottom. him half of the league. And I like Ben Johnson. I think he's a good candidate, but he's not bringing Detroit down to Dallas.

So all this stuff is very, very interesting. Very, very interesting. One other story that piqued my interest per source with knowledge of the situation, not Cowboys, Cliff Kingsbury, and Washington. Kingsbury has decided to wait until the season is over, which is probably this weekend, before interviewing with interested teams for the head coaching vacancies. Now, I like Cliff Kingsbury. Do not know him, know a lot of people that do.

I'm a fan of him. But I do think, and I've seen this my entire life, a lot of people are great, number twos. And I think Kingsbury's a two. The greatest example is Steve Spagnola of Kansas City, who was a disaster as a head coach and is the best defensive coordinator in the NFL. Josh McDaniels has six rings, fired twice as a head coach.

So I think Cliff Kingsbury is creative, fun, cool, but his teams get very loose because he tends to be. Every great college or a pro football coach has a little drill sergeant in them a little, some 5%, some 30%. Saban has it. Kirby Smart has it. Harbaugh has a little drilled sergeant. He doesn't. He's a former player, kind of views himself as a player, very player, friendly. I think he's very creative and very smart, but, you know, it's funny. I was reading a story

this morning on Lorne Michaels. Lorne Michaels isn't funny, but he knows funny, right? He's the CEO of Funny at Saturday Night Live for all these years. Fascinating story, by the way. It's in the New Yorker. And then, and then Steve Jobs was not the best engineer, but he had a little bit of artist, a little bit of salesman, a little bit of engineer. Some guys, are not the best exes and O's guy on his staff, but they're the best coach. Sean Payton and Andy Reed are great exes and O's guys, so was Belichick on defense, and they're great coaches. But there's a lot of coaches.

The term is walk-around coach. Jimmy Johnson had a lot of this. Jimmy was very good at feeling the temperature of his team, a very good psychologist, very good like Parcells at building staffs, like a Lorne Michaels at Saturday Night Live, some young, some old, some snarky, some loose. If you read the article, it felt like they were talking about a coach that built a staff or a GM that built a staff and that Cliff is somebody I would want on my staff. I don't necessarily think he is a head coach, but I could be wrong.

When it comes to head coaches, a lot of it's just who's your quarterback. So we'll see. Cliff Kingsbury, right now Steve Spaggs is the best defensive coordinator, in football, Dick LeBoe for years in Pittsburgh was an unbelievable defensive corner. They were twos. We've had some interesting vice presidents. Most are vice presidents. You know, Reagan never felt like he'd be a vice president. He was going to be a president.

Some guys are people are vice presidents. Some are president. Some are great in sales, but you wouldn't want to run the company. And so it's just interesting, the names that are out there. I can like somebody and think they're brilliant. I'd love Josh McDaniels or Cliff Kingsbury as my question. coordinator. Love them. But I've seen Josh a couple times, and Cliff a couple times, it may not

work. Their personality, you know, or maybe I'm wrong, and it's just they didn't have, when they were head coach, they got Tebow. Or they were head coach, they got Kyler Murray. Maybe they didn't get the right quarterback. A lot of times with a coach, I'm about 50-50 on this stuff, who's your quarterback? That's why I say, whoever

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