The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - The Chiefs have WRs problems

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

FOX Sports Soccer Analyst Alexi Lalas joined us in studio and talked about the reported hire of new US Men’s coach Mauricio Pochettino The Chiefs seem to be having bad luck at WR, but the greatness of Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid shines through.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ah, here we go, hour two. So fired up. Urban Meyer an hour from now. Alexei Lawless, 10 minutes from now, live in Los Angeles, it's the hurt. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, thanks for Meganas' party your day. So what I'm about to say sounds a little dicey,

but you can get into trouble being too loyal. Now, I know what you're saying. Colin loyalty is the key to life. Yeah, with my kids and my wife, but not with my quarterbacks, my houses, my businesses. And J-Mack, I was thinking about this. So Drake May, who they drafted, Greg Bedard, who covers the team, is like, they may have overvalued Drake May and underscouted how much. much work he needs. I'm just saying that. And now here comes Carson Beck next year. So if you look at

the NFL, Carolina's not great. But I went and checked their depth chart this morning and some practice stories. All the receivers last year, the weakness of the team was the receivers. All the guys they depended on last year are now backups. So they have upgraded wide receiver. They have a much, they have Bryce Young who wants to win. They have an owner who wants to win has been embarrassed. And it's a bad division. Carolina is not winning two games. Carolina is going to win. They have their tackles now. They have a great edge rusher.

They've upgraded weapons. And Bryce Young has talent. He was running for his life. That division, they're going to win minimum five, six games. The Giants are bad. Well, slow down. Excellent defensive front. Excellent offensive coach.

They went and got a star receiver. Daniel Jones did get to a playoff. They're not going to win three games. If you look and listen to what's going, Matt Judon is now going to on the best edge rusher. Rookie coach, defensive coach, and Jacoby Bressett is a career backup. Drake May, they're saying, is overwhelmed. All I'm saying is, I'm reading the Ian O'Connor book, and I had known this story, but

it reminded me of it regarding Ted Thompson and the Packers' front office, why they drafted Aaron Rogers, despite having Brett Farve, who was great. and their takeaway was the Packers didn't want to be the Portland Trailblazers who had Clyde Drexler knew Jordan was amazing but they thought we've got a 25 point of game or more guy at guard we're going to pass on Michael. They went and got Sam Bowie and you know the rest of the story is that when you have a chance to upgrade, figure it out, draft him.

I mean, seriously, if by the way, let's say the Spurs had a chance to draft another seven foot four guy who moved the floor wasn't wemby but was the best player you draft him the rocket's had the twin towers with ralph sampson like you just draft him you just go get the player now there are situations like let's say you have a good quarterback cj stroud and there's a guy that grades slightly higher well c j stroud's inexpensive and he's really really good you don't have to go from the six best quarterback to the fourth that's stupid but if you have a guy i mean Arizona's like Josh Rosen doesn't work. We're going to draft number one again,

Kyler Murray, got them to the playoffs. So it's very interesting. New England's going to be the worst team in the league. I can't think of anything else other than other teams losing their quarterback. You look at the Jets if Aaron's upright are going to be good. Miami's going to be good. Buffalo's going to be good. New England's bad.

So they don't get any break in division. There's no break. If Aaron Rogers stays healthy, two is stays healthy, Josh Allen stays healthy. They're going 0 and 6 in division. one in five at best oh and six so there's there's no easy wins for new england and they're going to have the number one pick next year now you can move carson beck could get you two first three seconds of four i mean you can get a bevy of picks or you can just take him you can just take him and what i would do i just take him it's almost like if because i my take is i understand and i said

this before the draft i said new england can take drake may or move down i'm okay with both I'm not sure I'd be okay with both. If you have Carson Beck in your site, 6-4-220, moves well enough, complete 73% of his throws last year in the SEC, the kid special. He is a great prospect. He may not be Andrew Luck. He may not be Caleb Williams, but he's an A prospect. Drake May was like a B prospect.

So I think it's one of those things, it's like houses. Through the course of my life, my staff makes fun of me, I'm not real loyal to houses. I've always told my wife, don't fall in love with wood. like just like if you can get a better house, better neighborhood, safer neighborhood, nicer backyard, better for the dogs, just do it. It's just wood. And so you can buy a house and you can absolutely think it's a forever home and it's the greatest ever.

But if you and your wife go for a drive and you're like, oh my God, this would be better for our kids. It's better for the animals. It's a better school district. What's the loyalty? I mean, just better wins. Better wins. And so that's where I think, if you start. looking at Carson Beck, you start looking at that organization, you know, go ask the Portland

Trailblazers. That's why the Packers said, we're just going to draft Aaron Rogers. He's just too good not to draft. By the way, there were several teams, 20 teams that could have drafted Aaron Rogers, but they got loyal. Go look it up. Look at the teams that passed on Aaron. They were loyal to their guy. It didn't work for almost any of them. I mean, down the line, they were loyal to less talented players. And the Packers are like, we got a Hall of Famer. We're going to draft guy. We think can be a Hall of Famer. By the way, Aaron Rogers was winning MVP's. Aaron Rogers was, I mean, he was great. And they're like, no, we're going to draft Jordan Love. We think he's special. So the Green Bay Packers have never, what's really interesting,

for the small town packers, you know, small towns tend to be very loyal, very, very loyal. And the Packers are like big city cold. They're like, go get another quarterback. Go draft Rogers go draft we don't forget all this formality forget all the loyalty go get the guy and it's the New York Giants the cold big city New York Giants who've been overly loyal to Daniel Jones the Packers have been brutal they're like we don't care if you're a Hall of Famer you're getting old we're getting the new guy so just stuff to think about and with that I don't want to waste any time I mean I can go to a commercial but when you have somebody with the side of our next guest. You bring him on. Alexi Lullis is joining us. He has raced up the freeway in

Los Angeles. Kind enough to be here, my friend. It's great to see you. Hello. Hello, hello, sir. How are you? Don't fall in love with wood. That's what I got out of the show this morning. Don't fall in love with wood. I love wood. Well, we all do do a good good road. Ah, there's nothing like some good wood. You go home. Hello, America. How are we doing? Okay. We've got a new man. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, alleging. Well, it's not official yet, but, you know, all signs point to a new manager when it comes, coach manager, whatever you want to call it when it comes to the U.S. Men's National Team, Maricio Pochettino. So, 52-year-old Argentine, and I think he ticks a lot of the boxes when it comes to sexy, big name. He's coached at PSG and Chelsea and Spurs. He's well-known, world-renowned. And a lot of people want that type of thing. So pedigree when it comes to, you know, to his club success and his club experience, never coached internationally before.

Is it an American? Is it an MLS coach? And for a segment of American population, I'm sure they are engorged at the thought of this happening right now. And I'm just excited that they're going to have a new coach because we're less than two years away from the seminal moment that is going to be the summer

of 2026 in the World Cup. And I want somebody in there that's going to inspire me to believe that we are heading in the right direction towards doing good things on and off the field in 26. So I laid out the landmines earlier on the show. And I said, A, you'll be blamed for every loss and draw. That's the way it works here. Sure.

With our professional athletes, we blame them a lot. We do not blame our soccer stars, our soccer players, for anything. Secondly, I think we have the highest level of European level skill we've ever had. I don't know if we have a ton of grit. I thought the teams that you played for had a kind of dog, you, Clint Dempsey, a little fight in there. Landon Donovan, little pissy. I kind of like that. I think the skill level now is higher. I think they lack grit. I also said it is very political. There are landmines. You'll never have more leverage in the first 18 months. Use it. It will wane

quickly after the world comes. It always does. Are those fair criticisms? They are. I think when you're looking at this particular hire, I think it's important to note again, he is not coached internationally, and that's not a problem necessarily. You look at Argentina, their coach hadn't coached internationally. He took to him, obviously. Now, he's coaching Messi in Argentina, so this is a different situation. I think that's where it gets into, you know, the interesting conversation, because this coach that you are looking at right here, in his club's success, day after day, he is with these players. In an international setting, you do not have that. Sometimes you have one or two trainings, Sometimes you have hours with these players.

And so the detail-oriented nature of Pochitino, which is what he is known for, high-pressing, high fitness, that's all fine and well. But he's going to have to switch his mind, a very smart man and a very smart coach, but switch his mind to be able to impart information very, very quickly. And I think that's the big question is in a very short period of time, not just the less than two years to the summer, but in a short period of time that he's going to get with these players, what is he going to tell them?

Because he can't do it day in and day out. He can't see those building blocks happening day in and day out. It's got to be raw. It's got to be ruthless, to your point. And I think it does have to be, for lack of a better word, simplified in what he wants to do. And you can't do what you do in a club situation with a national team, in particular in this type of situation.

I think this is very well stated. You've got a lot to do very quickly, and you don't get the access to the players that you would, a college football coach taking over a program. So if you were taking it over and you could give him two pieces of advice, now I'm talking on personnel, not the landmines politically. Sure. And you said, listen, he was flying in for the job and you happened to be sitting right next to him. I imagine it would be in comfort class.

And you'd be sitting with him. And he said, hey, just give me two things about personnel, two truths about personnel, about our players. What would they be? I think these players not only need, but I think they want somebody to come in and kick their ass. I think they want somebody that doesn't suffer fools. I think they want to be challenged. And while they may say they want this, in reality, when it happens, it might be a shock to the system, but it's the best shock to the system that this players.

We have, I don't want to use the word coddled, but we have given everything to this generation. And I'm glad. It's a good thing, because I think it's going to produce better soccer players. But to your point, what you started out, there also has to be a level of, for lack of a better word, grits and all these different things that we talk about and have associated with this team. And I think he can come in and say, you know what?

Again, there are no sacred cows. I don't care what you did before. I don't care how much money you make. I don't care where you play. I don't care who your girlfriend is. I don't care how many followers you have on social media. You need to be able to do it, and it's a wide open field. You want that ruthlessness.

And Tyler Adams, one of our good players, has talked about kind of the reality that Greg Burrhalter certainly at the end kind of gave them whatever they wanted. And sometimes players do need a kick in the ass. I think these players need a big old kick in the ass. Okay, G. O'Rena and Burrhalter had a falling out. To me, I view that as, okay, a little bit of a mutiny behind the scenes. A dad can be involved. Is it fair to blame Burrhalter mishandling that situation? Or, I mean, that from, you know, I'm, from, you know, I'm watching and reading stuff. I'm not with the team.

Just like NFL. I'm not in the locker room. That situation, was that Burrhalter's undoing? Because he won almost 68% of his games. Was it the Gio-Rena situation that undid him? No, I don't think the Giorina's just situation has anything to do with that. I actually think that he handled that better than most. Okay.

Because that got a lot of pushback. Yeah, but I think ultimately, I think this comes down to not winning. And so when it comes to Pochitino, if he is the coach here, it's going to be down to winning. You know, it's going to be down. He doesn't speak a lot of English, and he doesn't speak, the English that he does speak isn't great. That's not necessarily a bad thing. But again, I kind of want somebody that is going to inspire, and you can inspire in different ways, and I want that ambassador and that pioneer and that person that is going to go out there and be in front of everybody, including the American public,

and get us excited about what is coming in 2026. I don't know how much of that he's actually going to do. Is he a tactician? Yeah. He thinks about the game, and he thinks about every little type of detail. And again, that's great. But when you only have a couple hours and a couple of training sessions, you can't get into the minutia. So let me ask you, one of the knocks on Burrhalter, for years and years I've said, we don't play like Argentina

because we don't have those ingredients. Right? Like even Gordon Ramsey, day old bagels, has limitations. Okay. So now I do think our skill level, and maybe I'm hyperbolic here, I do think we have multiple players in Europe flourishing. I do think it was, and this is no

affront to what you provided, but I thought, we had to play with a level of physicality and grit because we lacked certain things 20 years ago. I don't think we lack a lot. We may not be Argentina or Spain, but we can go toe to toe. And Burrhalter, the knock on him at the end was,

well, he's playing stylistically like we don't have talent. And we should be more aggressive. Is that a fair criticism? That may be a fair criticism, but it should also be noted that I think what Burrhalter wanted when he came in and what he was at the end were two different things. I think he was much more of an idealist when he started and much more pragmatic when he finished.

And maybe to your point, there's a criticism in that, in that he wasn't ultimately a true believer. He wasn't a cheerleader. He betrayed his ethos ultimately. And it cost him his job. So if Pochitino comes in, he's going to have to very, very quickly suss out what this team is and what this team isn't and say, while I may want to play like this, I don't have this. What are they? I think that it's a mixture.

I think they are going to play out of the back and continue to play out of of the back. Explain that to the novices. So in the past it was much more lived to fight another day. And the way the game has evolved, playing out of the back, literally from your goalkeeper, short passes, trying to break down a team, often teams that press to gain the advantage. But it all takes is one mistake, one bad touch, one bad pass. And not only are you losing the ball, but you're losing it in dangerous places. And oftentimes this playing out of the back has become a disease because teams that don't have the skill to do it, just put their head down and say, we're going to do it, and they just keep banging their head against the wall. I don't think that

this team shouldn't play out of the back, but I do think that there has to be some pragmatism, and the sooner that Pochitino figures that out, the better he's going to be. And in the past, with the teams that he's coached, he hasn't really done that. He has been able to do it day after day after day and played in a certain way. And if months into this, he comes to the realization, wow, I wanted to play this way, but I can only play this way, that's a problem. You need to hit the ground running. You need to know what you're getting into on and off the field. Whoever the coach is, if it's Pochitino, he damn well better understand what the situation is.

And the expectation that we have, this is 2026. This is going to be a huge moment. And we need somebody coming in that is going to inspire America, inspire America when it comes to the soccer culture, but inspire the greater America, that this is something to get behind. We're heading in the right direction. And we can be excited when that whistle blows and have a belief that this team is going to do things that we have not seen in the past. And if he's the man to do it, fine.

Bring it on. Okay. Christian Pulisic, clearly, eye test is special. Yeah. He is many things. Able to beat, you know, foot on ball, beyond clever, sneaky, quick. He's just a goal waiting to happen. He's an opportunity waiting to happen.

If I said to you, give me two through four. Give me another three of our players that you think are still ascending and can meet Pulisic. Because generally, if you go play in Netherlands or in Argentina, there are ways to defend the star. I mean, messy is messy. I always feel like you need in the NFL. You've got to have seven great players in their prime. You can't be too old or too young. Green Bay was too young last year.

Maybe the Niners were too old. You need a core of four if you have your goalie right. And Matt Turner, we usually do. We usually have a goalie right. I think there's some question when it comes to Matt Turner and goal, when it comes to the centerback position, and certainly when it comes to the nine. When it comes to Polisic, though, I think his body has caught up with his brain. He has matured into a man physically, and that's translated into a consistency, and he hasn't been hurt, knock on wood. Who are our core for now?

I think you would go down the spine, and you would go with, well, you would go with Polisic out there on that left-hand side. I think you would go with someone like Weston McKinney and Tyler Adams, absolutely. And yes, I guess it would be Matt Turner. Tim Ream from a leadership and an elderly statesman type of thing, I think he has moved on. I think Jedi Robinson, our left back is the most, in one of the most consistent. And then I think you have Tim Wea, who over the last cycle, I actually think has been the best attacking player. He is polarizing. He is polarizing.

But he needs, and a lot of them need to kind of do what Christian Polisica has done, is that grow into themselves. And in doing so, you're living up to, I don't want to use the word hype, but let's be honest when it comes to a lot of players, it is the word hype. And that's a credit to Christian Policic that he has been finally able to have a consistent period of games, not be hurt, but in those games for A.C. Milan and for the U.S. men's national team do some incredible things and kind of live up to everything that we thought he was going to be. I, from time to time, will poke in the ribs, the online soccer community. Yeah, because they won't poke back. You, similarly, have been willing to, at a KD level, engage.

with the public. And I think it's great. I like how spirited we are. As I often say, you know, we view ourselves as a five-star restaurant and we're a really talented three. I look at U.S. men's national team as a broken tech company. The talent's there.

They don't have the culture right. And by the way, somebody buys it, gets the culture right. The talent's there. Sure. It's got good bones. It's like a house with good bones. don't fall in love with wood, but you can fall in love with the frame in the house. So is that reasonable to say, we're a broken tech company.

We have the engineers. We got Stanford all over the building. I feel like the culture's a bit broken. Yeah, I don't think it's completely broken and unfixable. It's not a demo. Unfixable. And as a matter of fact, I think that's why Pochitino looks at this as a real opportunity. And I would look at it as an opportunity.

I think anybody would look at this an opportunity. You don't have to qualify for a World Cup. You're coaching the United States team that, to your point, while it has talent, hasn't lived up to that talent. So it's not just a complete throwaway of what am I going to be able to do with this. I think you can do more. You're coming off an epic failure of a summer where they have fired the coach. And you have the opportunity to coach the home team, the host team in a World Cup that I think is going to be, when it comes, when all is said and done, record breaking in terms of the number of fans, obviously the number of teams now going to 48, the money that it makes. and again, the impact that it makes both domestically in the United States and around the world.

So that adds up to a pretty good gig to me, all right? Speaking of gigs, are you doing paying gigs with your musical talent? Nobody's going to pay me to do my music right now. And I continue to write and record and to put out music for all three of my fans out there, including my mom sometimes, so you can check it out over there on Spotify and do all that. By the way, speaking of a performance, I'm going to head up here and go up to the fifth floor. We're going to crank out some digital stuff when it comes to the State of the Union podcast. We're going live right now because this is such a big story. The Pochitino hiring is such a

big story. We're going to go live on all the different platinum boards out there so you can check myself and David Mossie and our good friend, Stu Holden, who is zooming in from his vacation in Mexico. That's how big the story is. Holden does two things. He vacations and calls soccer games. Right? I've never seen anybody vacation more. It is incredible. I mean, Paris Hilton's like work. Right? I mean, it's like unbelievable. Get to work, Holden. Thanks, buddy. Thank you. Thank you.

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J-Mack with the news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Going back to the well, the Dallas Cowboys, Colin. Oh, it just continues to drag on. Cowboys Executive VP Stephen Jones said yesterday that getting a deal done with Dak Prescott by week one is their goal. We're only three and a half weeks away from the Cowboys

facing the Browns on Fox. Still, no progress from the Cowboys. on extensions for their three biggest stars. I don't know. I mean, at this point, are you getting worried, or is it still like, hey, wake me when week once here? Well, order of need, C.D. Micah, Dack. This order of need, C.D. Micah, Dack.

You've almost turned me into a guy who feels the need to defend Dack Prescott. He finishes runner up for MVP. They dominate teens, obliterate teams, great point. differential. Again, I can like the quarterback, but not like him at all at $64 million. Well, dude, $64 million is irrational. I mean, the highest APR is, what, $55 for Burrow? Why would you get anywhere near that for Dak? Well, the cap just went up $14 million, did it not? So you just want to funnel that into Dax pockets?

I wouldn't. It's like everything. Everything's got boundaries. Outside of my kids, well, my kids have boundaries. Everything's got boundaries. Oh, I like that house, not for that price. Ooh, I like that quarterback. Outside of Mahomes, Josh Allen, those two. Even Burrow gets hurt too much for my taste. Two quarterbacks in the league, I'll just pay whatever it is. Burrow and Lamar, I like a lot, Herbert.

But Herbert hasn't won enough, and then Burrow and Lamar. Outside of Mahomes and Allen, everybody's got a price in this league. You sound like the million-dollar man, Ted DiBiase. Remember him from wrestling back in the day? Everybody's got a price. So I walked into one of these high-end stores in Amsterdam when we're, last month. Yeah.

And I see these sneakers. I'm like, oh, these are for me. These are money. They're so perfect. And I look at the price tag. It was $900. Oh, yite.

For tennis shoes? Well, they're like high that you would wear with like a suit. Well, that's different. Those are dress shoes. They're dress shoes, but they are tennis shoes. Like brand name sneakers. And I was like, damn, I just could not get over $900 sneakers. Yeah, of course.

That would look cool. And like, you know, I'm sure, you know, Tom Brady probably walks in here wearing those kind of sneakers. I just, for me, I couldn't. And I can't do $64 million a year for DAC. I can't do $60. I couldn't do $55. Could you?

I would struggle with it. Yeah. Everybody has a price, like you said. All right, next stuff is, ooh, uh-oh. Not great news. Matt Stafford experienced hamstring tightness and had to be pulled out of their joint practice with the Cowboys. Should we have this siren emoji, Colin?

I know you're looking a little concerned. This doesn't expect to be a lingering issue, but Stafford is 36 and the injury history. is about as long as a CVS receipt. Backup quarterbacks for the Rams. Jimmy G. And Stetson Bennett of Georgia Bulldog fame. First of all, Stafford last year had elbow issues.

I look at Stafford as I look at a lot of older athletes. He's never 100%. But he's tough. He plays hurt. This is not baseball where if you have a sore elbow in your Clayton Kirshaw, shut it down. That's not what it is. long season. If you feel like a calf strain, you're LeBron, it's like game 33. Shut it down.

You're playing hurt as a hockey player and as an NFL player. Hockey guys by the third week, nobody feels 100%. Everybody's dinged up. And that's just the way it is. Matt Stafford plays hurt every game. He's never 100%. How's the old line looking, by the way? Guard, center guard, maybe the best in the league. Better be good. If Stafford's got a hammy injury. And Blake Coram, run, baby, run. I like Corum.

You have faith in Jimmy G is the backup, by the way? But Stets and better. We're not going to have to worry about the backup. Stafford will be ready to roll. I love the Rams optimism. By the way, Rams are top five team that I root for. Jets obviously won, and then there's like Chargers and Rams are in there. It's hard when you live in cities, when I've lived in the New England region.

It was impossible not to be impressed. Like when I used to work up in Oregon, there was this tire company. And they were so well-run. You literally parked your car, and they'd run out to your car. That was part of their schick. And it was like, it was hard to not have affection. They were so well-run. You know, there's certain businesses you're like, I just like, I feel good when I go there.

Right. And it's the same with certain teams. The Rams owner, GM, coach, quarterback, draft picks. It's hard not to feel an affection for a team. I just look at these as businesses, and it's like, boy, they're well-run. That's why I know Andy Reid. I, you know, Brett Beach, I text. I met their president this off season.

The Hunt family. They're well-run. I root for people that are doing the Packers. Like, they just know what they're doing. So it's, I get frustrated watching teams like the Jets who, when's the last time they had an offensively clever head coach? Exhausting. Shocker, it took you 90 minutes to take shots at the jets of this show. Usually it's like first 30 minutes.

You're just rapid fire. But Lollas talked about like the spine of the soccer team, you know, like center forward, center midfielder, center back. Like that's important. In football, I think you're right. Ownership, huge, head coach, massive quarterback. Those three, if you can align those three. If you.

Like Kraft, Belichick Brady, perfect, right? Mahomes, Hunt, Reed. Immaculate. A lot of teams. You can look. around the league, you can't find three in Lockstep. The Jets owner is a, I'm not going to call him a buffoon, but he's like below that.

And Salah, we don't know. Rogers can be great, but. Yeah, it really, you know what you are before the season starts. Now, now, I still don't love the ownership in Houston, but the coach, the quarterback, and. So far, it's sample size of one year, but. But it looked pretty sharp. I mean, I... No, that

Nick Casario comes in. They have nailed the last two drafts, I think, and their free agent signings have all been smart. They've gotten really good players at a reasonable price. They haven't overpaid for anybody. I mean, Stefan Diggs for them, is C.J. Stroud's contract now, Stefan Diggs is such a smart get.

He's not going to cost you Justin Jefferson money, but he's a, and by the way, hold, hold on, two, three good years with him. Just the time you've got to pay C.J. Stroud, they're off Stefan Diggs. So Diggs is a veteran who's playing for a big money contract, his last big money. Don't have to give him one. Okay, you think he's going to be thrilled if Nico Collins and Tank Delt are getting the looks that he should be getting? No, he'll move.

They'll move off him. Right, and not in the middle of the season. And is he going to cause trouble for your young star quarterback? I'm not saying it's going to happen. He's never caused trouble in years one or two anywhere. He's not, he's not A-B. He's not T-O. It's different because he's playing for a contract.

Well, I'm hosting for a contract. I'm a grown-up. I can get through it. I mean, Stefan Diggs is not this crazy person. He's not. He has gotten frustrated. frustrated. Yes. But usually year three or year four, he'll bust his butt for the first two years and it'll all want. You want to give him a diva tag or is he short of a diva? I don't think he,

I don't, it's funny. I don't view him as a diva. I don't view of, I thought Des Bryant was disruptive. A, B was disruptive. I think there are players that, and then I think there are just players who they're a little needy, a little needy. And a lot of people are. I'm a little needy. You're a little bit. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey now. Be careful over there. Final story. Aaron Judge Colin. How about this? Became the fastest player in MLB history to reach 300 career home runs. He did it in 955 games. Crazy.

Here's the call of another mammoth milestone homer from Aaron Judge. The 3-0. Bestest man ever in May reach the 300 home run plat. Was that game in Chicago? Because it was loud there for an Aaron Judge home runs. Well, he's a star. A lot of times baseball fans go. I mean, O'Haw-Tonnie on the road.

Have you ever, have you been, I was watching the Milwaukee series. So I watched two games in the Milwaukee series in Milwaukee. I think it is in Chicago. Do you see how many, yeah, did you see how many Dodger fans? This is a fascinating thing to me. Is this the Otani effect? Because Freeman and Mookie Betts are great players. I cannot believe how many Dodger fans are on the road.

Baseball is not a sport where people travel. Is that just an ot, I couldn't believe in Milwaukee. How many blue jerseys in the crowd? Probably an Otani thing. That's incredible. That would be my guess, right? Remember when the Dodgers went to Yankee Stadium earlier this year? And it felt like a quarter of the stadium were Dodger fans.

You know, you get that a little in the NBA with stiff curry. Anywhere you go, kids are wearing curry jerseys in the lower bowl, right? I don't think you get that in the NFL. It's not like Patrick Mahomes goes to Jacksonville and there's a ton of like Patrick Mahomes fans. I don't think it works like that. No. But I said this the other night. I was sitting there talking to a friend watching.

the Dodgers having a plate of pasta. And I said, look at the crowd. And Milwaukee's good. It's not like there's just all these seats available in the lower bowl. Dodger fans everywhere. It has to be Otani. I've never noticed this. I mean, there's obviously there's Steeler fans everywhere.

There's Laker fans in Atlanta. We all know this. But I didn't know this many Dodger fans in Milwaukee. When Mike Trout was in Milwaukee two years ago, was the crowd going wild and with them? No, isn't enough. to know, Tani. I mean, he looks like a movie star. Hits for power.

He's so, he's like a kind person, too. Like, I saw him drill a foul ball off the umpire's face mask. He felt terrible. And he felt so bad. He was like, are you okay? Like checking on the guy. He's just awesome. Easy guy to root for it.

Very. Um, J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. I've got a lot of stuff going on here today. Greg Bedard, Alexei Lulles. Urban Meyer joins us next hour.

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So Hollywood Brown is the latest wide receiver, Kansas City brought in. He just got hurt. So he'll be out six weeks. Kansas City, their wide receiver position is a hazmat spill. It's incredible. Rishi Rice is a disaster off the field. Cadarius, Tony, they don't trust him. I mean, he's been like a DNP, too immature.

Sky Moore semi-bust. Nicole Hardman, they played ping pong with him and the Jets. Juju Smith-Schuster, one good year, left. And now I think New England cut him. MBS. I mean, it's, it's, it's, thank God. Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes are resourceful. They, and they are well run. They have struggled at wide receiver. So now it's Xavier Worthy, the fresh, the rookie out of Texas, tiny guy. You're going to have to keep in motion. Otherwise, he'll get jammed up at the line. But nobody in this league with any unit has made chicken Marsala out of chicken, you know what, like the chiefs at wide receiver.

I mean, now Hollywood Browns hurt. And they have busts, semi-busts, castoffs. I mean, when New England's like, yeah, we don't need this receiver. And Kansas City resourcefully got a lot out of him in a Super Bowl run. So, I mean, again, this is how great Mahomes is. Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl. But Cooper Cup for that year was uncoverable. Brady, great, went to Tampa, A.B., Gronk, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, their receiving corps.

There's nothing here. They don't have a one. I'm not sure they have a two. I think Rashid Rice is really talented. But it is, I mean, it's just castoffs, misses, everybody else's nonsense. And they, it's like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible. It doesn't really matter about the plot, the supporting cast. He'll take a motorcycle off a cliff, parachute, save the day. You'll watch. It'll be great. But we talked about this. The gap between Mahomes and everybody else in this league is what he's doing at wide receiver. And it also illustrates why I've said Trent Williams is the guy you've got to sign, not Brandon IU. Now, nobody thinks Purdy is Mahomes. There are a lot of teams winning in this league without a number one wide receiver.

Mahomes went to a Super Bowl without a left tackle and got his doors blown off. quarterback one, I'd argue, left tackle, two, edge rusher, three weapons for. Need a couple of weapons, although Kansas City is winning Super Bowls with one weapon, and a seventh round running back. Think about that. Seventh round running back. A tied end past his prime and an anemic wide receiver core, and Mahomes is winning Super Bowls. That tells you the gap between him and Matt Stafford. That's how good he is. I mean, it's just different. I can remember watching Michael Jordan in his prime.

He's 6-6. Wasn't the best shooter. Wasn't the best ball handler. And it was just like, he just makes it look so easy. And that's Mahomes. He just, he doesn't have to play well for four quarters. And he just turns it on the last two drives. You can't stop him two touchdowns.

They win by a field goal. He's just different. The great ones are as good as the soccer players are, Mbapé or a Messi. it's just, and think about the great players around them, and they are a notch, Djokovic at his prime was a notch above Federer, Serena Interprime.

Like the great ones are, you take all, think how great you have to be to make the NBA. You have to be all state, all region. On an AAU team, Detroit Metro, Atlanta Metro, you may have four of those guys become college stars or end up on a bench in the NBA.

And Yokic is significantly better than All-Stars. Jason Tatum's an all-star. Yokic. I mean, LeBron James was eight straight finals. The truly great ones, I mean, just think how good Jason Tatum is. Can't get off the bench. And Yokic almost single-handedly beats the entire American roster. That's the gap.

That's like what I feel, what Mahomes right now, the whole league. I mean, as much as like Josh, Allen makes too many mistakes. He's had a number one receiver. He's had all these gifts. By the way, bills lost their best linebacker until probably Thanksgiving.

Did you see that, J. Mack? Yeah, we're talking about it final hour. Big, big loss for the bills. Matt Milano, they're great line. And he's outstanding. Great coverage linebacker, tackling machine. He's a great player. Torn biceps.

He's a great player. They said until at least December. I mean, there's Fred Warner, DeMario. Davis, Roquan Smith, and he's getting... And this is a defense that I think lost four starters last year, like secondaries a bit in flux, boat safeties are gone. They wasted opportunities.

A lot of veteran leadership out the door. When they had Josh Allen in a rookie contract, they wasted opportunities. Well, they went far in the playoffs. They just couldn't get by Mahomes. Look what they had to do this offseason. They had to let go of offensive linemen. They're now in the space of letting go of, letting go of guy. Kansas City won when Mahomes was on the rookie deal, and they won.

when they let go of Tyree Kill. That's the gap between Josh Allen, the second best quarterback in the league. Let me try to correct the Chiefs just keep winning Super Bowls, even though they got off Tyree Kill. Listen, yes, they won a Super Bowl. Patrick Wilhomes had the worst season of his career this past season. They had to go on the road for two playoff games. Buffalo vomited all over themselves in the fourth quarter,

Baltimore with the worst game plan in AFC championship game history, and the Niners were so close. So let's not act like the Chiefs are just this juggernaut. care how the sausage is made. They've won two Super Bowls without Tyrant Kill. That is impressive. I'm not interested in bad offensive game plans. This one was very fortunate. Take it to the bank. They're not winning a third straight.

We agree, right? Daddy wants trophies. Not stories. I don't want stories. I want trophies. Kansas City wins trophies. You've got stories. Well, it's game plan in Baltimore. That was inexplicable.

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