The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - The future for Deion Sanders

Episode Date: November 28, 2024

Colin talks to Hall of Famer Michael Irvin who shares some surprising info on Deion Sanders' potential move to the NFL Jim Harbaugh stops by to talk about his first year coaching the Los Angeles Chargers and how he feels about QB Justin HerbertSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm going to move a bari, Cooper, so we're more cap flexible. Jerry's a wild catter in oil. When he has taken big risks, I believe to get out of this mess, because right now, Michael, it's very unique. I'm going to name quarterbacks. They're all in their prime. Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, Burrow, Herbert,

golf. You're not winning right now. I believe you have to, if you go three and 14, and I think it's possible, I'm hiring Dion and I'm giving away the farm to get up to Shadour Sanders.

Am I crazy? Not at all. Not at all. And I like it. I'm just telling you I like it. Now, Now, here's the thing, though, here's thing. You say if you're going to hire Deon and get away the farm to get up and get your door,

I think you're going to be right there to get your door anyway. You see what I mean? Yeah. Just by the way this season is going. If you lose to the Giants on Thanksgiving. Right. You're not going to have to give up the farm. You're going to be pick one, two or three.

Yeah. Or certainly pick one or two. You know, that's the way you're playing right now. At home, you're on average, that's six games. losing streak you're on at home, at home. This is why I'm dressed in black. We can't even come up with anything at home. Prior to this 0 and 6 at home, we won 16 in a row.

You just were at the Colorado game. You're close with Dion Sanders. Right. I spent Friday with Jerry, Saturday with Dion, and Sunday praying for the conclusion. Let me just be real with you. Do you think Dion? And I think he loves college.

But if his son and Travis Hunter are gone, Do you think Dionne would listen to Jerry Jones call if he offered him the job? I think Dion, if Jerry and the Cowboys up there round one and going to get Chador, if you want somebody to follow footsteps, you got Chador, you get Deon. I absolutely believe that happens. You do. Dion understands how important it is to have that relationship with your quarterback. Yes.

more important anything else in the world on the next level is that relationship with your quarterback. If you don't believe me, ask the New York Jets and all the people that are disappearing over there. Yeah. You see what I'm saying. That's right. So, and Deion understands that. Good point. Deon understands that.

By the way, what do you make of that Jets? They fired their GM today. What do you make of Aaron and the Jets? You know, the Jets I said messed up when they tried to make. Rogers the main thing. Okay. Instead of keeping their main thing as the main thing. They were primarily

a run team that played great defense that needed some guidance at quarterback. And their fight was to go find the quarterback that you come in and make the few plays that they need. Throw the ball 25 times a game. Not this 55

times. You know, the first six weeks of the season, they were in the top three. Now, they realize they messed up. So the last four weeks, they've tried to come back, you know, come back from all the throwing, but it's too late. They allowed Aaron Raj to pull them into his fight of trying to prove to everybody the woke crowd in Green Bay that I still have it instead of Aaron Rogers being added to their fight, which is a run game and defense. They've got an identity issue. Right, right. And they let Aaron Rogers bounce around their identity. Now, you take a Super Bowl winning

All-Pro quarterback And you said, well, we don't have one of those We're just listening to what he says And you got disaster You take a Super Bowl winning All-Pro quarterback that has stumbled and you give them

To the Pittsburgh Steelers Where there's a coach Who has already set the order. We already got our identity. We're running the ball and playing defense. And Russell, can you make a few plays for us. That's interesting. That's the difference. Mike had created the identity. Mike made Russell join his stuff. Aaron Rogers made the Jets join his stuff. And now they are in

disaster. That's a really good point that basically Mike Tomlin said, because I've argued forever, people think Brady was the savior of Tampa. But as Tom knew, that was a loaded roster. Boy, you know what? That's a good point. Stafford came to L.A. He wasn't the savior. They'd been to the Super Bowl. That's a good point, too. When you asked, when Russell went to Denver, he was viewed as the savior, Aaron to the Jets. It doesn't exist. Yeah.

There is no such thing unless you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen to be the savior. What you're saying is nobody's giving up the savior. Nobody's giving up a savior. By the time you get him, he's no longer a savior. You know what I mean? He's a disciple of the savior, but he's no savior himself. You see what I mean. So you like the Steelers what they've done with Rockville.

I love what the Steelers have done. And the move that Mike made at 6 and 2 going, you know, when the kid was all with people. Justin Fields, 4 and 2, they moved off. I mean, 4 and 2 move off for Justin Field and still go and get what he's got in the last few weeks. That's hard to do, by the way, Michael. We have a winning record and move off the popular kid that everybody likes. Oh, because, you know, if it didn't work, if it doesn't work, they're going to chop you up and chew you out.

Right, right, right. You know what I mean? And it worked in an extraordinary way. And I loved how he did the other day. And honestly, I love the kid, and I'm praying for the kid. But Mike Tumbling, thank God they won that game the other day. Or we would have been back over on the kid again. Justin Fields like you see why Mike Tumlin made the change.

Even that little one-yard slide early, that early one-yard slide could have cost that game. Yep. Could have cost that game. And that's what Mike is saying. I just want the guy to not make them. mistake that's going to cost me a game. That's right. Just hold on to the ball and not make the mistakes that's going to cost me a game. Luckily, they were able to get that first down and win that game.

Okay, let's talk about the Lions. So you played on a cowboy team. When I was a kid growing up, the Steelers in 1975 had about nine Hall of Famers. The cowboy team you were on had four or five, six Hall of Famers. You start looking at Penae Sewell, Amoron, St. Brown, Jared Gaw. I love this. When he's healthy aides, the branch, the safety. You start looking at that team, Detroit, you know you've been on one of those when you go into the game and it's like we'll be playing with a lead every Sunday. Do you think

the Giants, the Lions, are they peaking too early? Are you concerned that they're not being pushed back a little? They're rolling over teams now. Right, right. Now, let me tell you what I when I look at the Lions, I said, because I said this, you know,

last year, on undisputed, and when I saw him, I said, man, it just reminds me a lot of our young team because young talent everywhere. And it's not just they got young talent. They love playing football together. Like we love playing football together. You know, when we were coming up, the early Cowboys,

90 Cowboys. Now, the difference, the difference here is Jared golf. Which Jerry Golf are we going to have? There's a Jared Golf they let go from right out here in L.A. because they said you can't win the big game. Well, the strictly pocket

guy. Right, right, right. And and then they won the big game without him. So that's the stain on him. Now, he's playing with a chip on his shoulder, as Jared Gough is, and he's going to need that chip so he can remove that stain. You see what I mean? He's going to need that chip to remove that stain. Now, what's Jared Gough do you get?

That team I'm talking about that we were with the Cowboys, we ran off seven straight victories with Steve Burline at quarterback one time. Remember? Steve Burline and quarterback, we ran off. We ran through everybody. We got in the playoffs and we lost two of a Detroit team in the playoffs. Steve Burline had great talent, great talent. And we would have won a lot of games with Steve Berline

and we would have got some playoff games with Steve Berline, but we never would have become a dynasty with him. Troy Aitman took us to the dynasty level when we got him back. Now, Jared Goff has the range to be Steve Berline or Troy Aikman. If he stayed Steve Berline, they'll continue to do this and just get in the playoffs and never get there. But if he turns back into the number one pick of the draft and become Trayman, playing within himself, like Troy played within himself,

then this Detroit team can do some of the things that 90 Cowboys team did. Okay, so I want to get into this whole Jake Paul Tyson thing. So you may, the thing we talked about before we went on the air, can you talk about that or no? What, uh, but Jake Paul? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, I've been saying, yeah, I saw somebody.

Yeah. Okay, I'm not a big. conspiracy theorist, although many are proven true, so that's okay. But you're an analyst. You're an analyst. That's right. And any analyst has the answer, who, where, when, why? So I wondered something during the fight.

And what did you say to me before you went on the air today on a contract? I said, I was looking for Mike Tyson. Because he got me too. when he walked in that ring. I saw, I saw death in his eyes. I said, oh my God.

I said, I see some scared. I was scared. I said, oh, that don't look like nobody coming to play. Right. And I was looking for

that patented one in the body uppercut. Okay, so it was on. One to the body. That was his, you know, his left hook and his uppercut were the drop shots.

That's it. That's it. And when he hits that bad, it's boom, boom, and you're like, I want to see that. I want to see that. So why didn't we get one?

And we didn't get it. Why? Not a one. And I heard somebody, I saw somebody read somewhere, when somebody said, it was in the contract. No uppercut. No uppercut. I think, seriously, I kind of buy this.

Yeah, they had it in the country. Come on, guys. Why wouldn't Mike throw an uppercut? If Nolan Ryan pitched in a game at 60 and never threw a fastball. Right. And you'd be like. Sum's up. What's going on?

If Mike Irvin had good knees and you can still play football and didn't run a slant route, some fixed. That's all I'm saying. Something is interesting. So I know I watched it. You got to stick with what you do. Now, I know Mike had a blood transfusion. He almost died July 20th.

And I said the fight should have been in March. His body was still recovering. He ran out of the gas third round. But if you watch Tyson's career, the upper cut. Was this patent? It was the kill shot. It was. And he didn't throw one.

And once he hit you in that stomach and you just lean over a little bit, you set yourself up for that upper cut. And here it comes. Okay, the other thing is, Jake Paul, by about the fifth round, had a chance. Yeah. And I wondered after what you said. Did Jake Paul say, listen, I signed a contract. He can't throw an uppercut.

I'm not going to humiliate him. Because I agree to a deal that Mike can't throw, he can't hit cleanup. He can't bring the bomb. Right. And I like that he did that. I like that he didn't go kill on, kill Mike. Which is funny because Jake gets a lot of. He gets a lot of hate and pushback on, you know, and I like the guy.

I like my, I mentioned it on the broadcast. You got to honor and respect a man. He works hard. That hacks the whole game, like he has hacked the whole game. They did it his way. He didn't listen to your way and still got right where he wanted to be. Dionne Sanders is doing that in football as a head coach. He's doing the same thing.

He's hacked the system. He said, I'm doing this my way. And you guys got to respect that. I mean, I think he's a brilliant guy. And he got, he got kudos for me for honoring Mike Tyson with that, with that $20 million gift package in pulling up in the fifth round. I want to go back to the, the Chedur-Sanders-D-on thing. Now, people will push back and say, well, what are you going to do with DAC?

And my take is, DAC will have a market. Somebody will pay some of the contract. And the truth is, Denver has shown us. even with 50 million of dead cap money, Russell Wilson, if you get the coach and the quarterback right, you can still be good. You can still be good.

Because you're not paying Bow Nix for five years. Right. So you can handle that dead cap. And somebody would comment, DAC would have a market. Yeah, DAC will have a market. There's no doubt. There's no doubt.

You go to DAC before the draft pick and say, we're going to take Shadour, where do you want to go and we'll try to make it? We'll be good suitors. We'll go find the suitors. You pick the team you want. We'll try to get it there. You just don't make it public, so we have leverage.

And listen, I love Dak, and Dak has given us a lot of wins. And I'm sitting here listening to these scenarios. And I say to myself, wow, you know, I would hate to see that go. I love that. But right now, when you look at the Cowboys as they are currently constructed, you got to say there's something that has to be done here. Sure. You can't stay, you can't continue to lose games.

games at home at 38 to 13 clip. You're losing these games 38 to 13 in front of your home crowd. It's just getting bad. So something has to be shaking up and be done. And Jerry has to get it done. People don't understand how hard Michael works. So the last three days, where have you been? Well, I've been, well, at first I did the game.

I meant to fight in Dallas. Okay, that's Friday. And then Friday. Saturday. Saturday. Okay. And came back Sunday. Then went to the Monday night game and then flew here.

early Tuesday morning. And you don't do the private stuff. So I can be here with you. No, I don't do private planes. I don't, I'm so, I don't know. I fly every day and I'm still scared of planes.

I don't know. What do you mean you're scared? Stop laughing over that. I don't know, man. People, I'm telling you, man,

when I get on an airplane and we hit turbulence, oh my God, man, my anxieties get so bad because I can't control it. You know what I mean? I'm not in control.

How about a gummy? So that person would be next to me, oh my God, they'd be so happy to be next to me, right? I can see them. They get the phone. They text number, and they're doing this right here.

They're trying to show people that's me. Like, you know, we hit turban. Like, bram! You know, my head's pretty strong. I ground so tight. They're like, ooh, like, they ain't so happy to sit next to me anymore. They're like, why are you so scared? You ever take a gummy?

Yeah, I don't know. I appreciate you giving me the chance to tell people that on TV. Yeah, it didn't work quite like a one. too. I was still grabbing at everything. Yeah, I get it. At any, it's turbulent. I don't know why, man. I'm going to work on it. It's some uncertainty of what's happening in your life.

You can't control it. And I live on it almost every day I'm flying. Every day I can't get. I don't know why I have this fear of me. My friends, right, they send a plane sometimes. They want me to come. They'll send a plane. Be the nicest plane, a G5, G6.

I'll leave it right in the hangar and go get me a plane on Southwest Airlines. And come pick me up at airport, man. You know what? Tell you piloted to fly the plane. That's why. That's why you relate and you've endured. You're one of the people.

What are the people, man? You're walking through those crappy airports like the rest of it. Yeah, just like the rest of. So I can get the feel of the people. So I can speak with the people. Yeah. You can't get the feel of the people without speaking with the people. That's how you can communicate.

Okay. And you broke news today. You do believe. And I do too, that if Shadur went to the Cowboys, Dion would accept the job. I believe 100% and I can tell you, good sources have told me that. Great sources have told me that. That's all I can say like that without violating anything else.

The play, man. You know I love having you. I love you too, but I love having you. I love being with you, buddy. We're going to make this a regular next year. We're going to make it a regular. You're always welcome, the playmaker. This is the Herd Best of.

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That's not healthy. How did Justin handle you saying, hey, you don't need to throw 40 times. How did he handle it? It was, you know, when you're starting to talk there and talking about, you know, how the team's doing and how, you know, the same players from last year, you know, Justin Herbert. I mean, let's just for two seconds. Let's just go there. I mean, there's nobody better. There's nobody, you know, there's Lamar's playing really good, you know, and I think those two are playing at a really high level right now and some others. I don't think anybody's playing better than Justin Herbert is. And I know you have great respect for him, Colin.

Yeah. And, I mean, it's a love and admiration that we have for Justin. That he's incredible. Everything that he does, we could spend the whole show talking about him. But it just hits me like this. Like every day when we go out there to practice, we're around greatness. this is what greatness looks like. And God willing, and the creek don't rise,

this will be the only quarterback I ever coached again. Yeah, well, that would be, and he's big and he's strong and he's durable. Now, I got to, one of the things that we question, we said, boy, we don't know if the Chargers have perimeter sideline talent to play with the teams. And Quentin Johnston had a rough rookie year. But when he's been healthy, you guys have really, your staff has figured out how to use him. Talk a little about that because, first of all, it's hard as a rookie in the NFL. It's hard for everybody. But he has really flourished since you arrived. What did you do?

It's really what he's done, Colin, in the training environment, he's gotten stronger. He has great speed. He's really worked hard on his route discipline, his mechanics. Sanjay Lauer, receiver coach, has done an incredible job coaching Q. And, you know, he just keeps getting better and better and better. And, you know, he's just shown us so much in terms of, you know, the speed, toughness, you know, playing smart, playing with great effort, blocking. It's just better, better, improving, improving. And, you know, our whole receiving core, when you look at it has been that way. I mean, Ladd-McConkie, he's done an incredible job.

Josh Palmer doing a super, super job. Got Darius Davis back this week. Yep. And he gave us a big, big punt return. Jalen Rager, who we added, has done a really good job for us. And then DJ Shark, we think he'll be back this week. So we're getting a lot of primer help already. And we feel like it's just going to grow and grow.

And that bodes well for our team. We all know your brother coaches in the NFL, but you were gone from the NFL, Jim, for a decade. And, I mean, football's football. Your teams are physical, relentless, and tough and smart. But was there anything being gone for 10 years and coming back into this league that you had to kind of tweak, that you went, you know what, that's a little different,

that's a little different? Was anything you had to tweak at all? There's definitely some things different in rules. those are probably some of the biggest things, but equipment changes. I would talk about the safety of the game. I think that's so much more improved. And those rules that I talked about earlier, I mean, have been designed for players' safety. The number one difference to me at the very top of the list is the last time I coached in the NFL was 2014.

And I didn't think that the NFL could get any bigger, any more popular than it already was. then. But, you know, now a decade later, I mean, it is, it is least, you know, 2x, 3x, you know, more in terms of popularity. Yeah. You know, the, I want you to go to week one this year and then to yesterday in that gap. Now, in college, you got a bunch of kids in college. They're 20, they're 19. You can see big growth. In the NFL, from week one this year to yesterday, Where do you grow? Where do you see a pro team grow with older guys? Guys are 26, 28, they're men. Have you seen big growth? If so, where on the team? Yeah, I have, you know, big growth. It's all the little things, all the, you know, things that people think are minutia.

But it's all those little thousand things that add up to make all the difference. And it's all the individuals. I mean, they're just attacking, you know, anything in every opportunity that's been put in front of them and trying to make the most of it. And I know we're just going back to the first game until now, but, you know, I would really point to, you know, just the very beginning and where it really all comes from. It all comes from the top. It all comes from, you know, the Spanos family. Dean Spanos, John Spanos is here every single day. I mean, through the draft process, you know, every practice, you know, every decision. It's everybody's just pulling in the same direction and they're the ones that that have that have made that culture and that's the way it's

been and uh no it shows in the the players that are here Justin Herbert Derwin James, Khalil Mack, you know, Quentin Johnson, all those that have been that have been drafted and signed and Joe Ortiz, you know, came in and did an incredible, I can count 11 guys that he's signed as free agents in the offseason that have been significant producers. and contributors. So yeah, I think it just really, you know, comes from an organization where everybody is doing anything and everything that they possibly can to help us win. And then, you know, we feel that. I feel that as as coach, our players feel it, that, you know, our organization, our ownership is doing anything and everything in their power for us. What's good for the B is good

for the hive. And then it just, it makes you want to do anything and everything. And, your powers, in my power as a coach, you know, to, uh, to, to help the organization. And everybody, everybody attacks it in a way of what I've noticed, like double checking, triple checking, and also everybody treats their job like it's the most important job in the entire organization. Uh, you know, and that's just fun to be around. So when you just, you show up every day and it's like, hey, who else wants to work? Who else wants? It's everybody. Everybody wants to, wants to get after it. So, you know, let's go. Let's go. That's the thing. And then, and then we just, you know, just to attack it with, you know, just we can't fix everything all at once. But we can fix

one thing at a time, all the time. Hey, speaking of Joe Ortiz, the trade deadline, your brother got a player, the bills did, the chiefs did. You got a really good team. You got your tackles. You got your ed rushers, you got your quarterback. I mean, you got most of the stuff that everybody wants. is there, at the trade deadline, are you interested? You're going to make a call? What do you make? What am I, what am I, I, I'm not going to guess. You're smiling like you got a card.

You got a card in your deck here that I don't know about. What are you going to do with the trade deadline? I don't know. I don't know. You know, that's a, that's a Joe Ortiz. You know, he's Joe is Batman. I play Robin and you never know. I, you know, I looked at your thing there.

I mean, the graphic, you know, Do the chargers need? What do they need? What do they need? Do they need receiver help, perimeter help? No, we don't need. We don't need that. I can't think of a position right now where we need, you know, to upgrade.

I love the guys that are here, love them. But if Joe wants somebody, you know, and, you know, can make us better than I know he will. And all competitors are welcome. Competitors, welcome for the 2024 Los Angeles Chargers. By the way, Ladd-McConkey, I liked him at Georgia. You saw him at Michigan when I was like, boy, he's good. Like, did you think he would be good, this good, this quick? He just love everything about him, right?

And he was good. He was a, how do you not love him, really? I mean, he walked on at Georgia and then played a significant contributor as a freshman, as a sophomore, as a junior. And he's a great guy. I mean, aside from the football, you know, by his talent, by his effort, he is known. But he is just such a respectful, good guy, you know. Okay, that's aside. And I know where that comes from.

That was poured into him by, poured into him by his parents, Benji and Brittany. And I had a great chance to meet him, chance encounter at the combine. My son Jack was with me. We went to get breakfast. One of those breakfast places, something with a fork in the name. And, you know, we're walking to pay the bill. And, you know, I see all these Georgia people there. And, you know, go dogs.

How are y'all doing? And, well, you really got after us a couple of years ago. Oh, yeah, we were there, Coach. We remember we're Mr. and Mrs. McCocky and this is our family and some of the other uncles and family members were there. And we had a lovely conversation there. And I could see right there, you know, what had been poured into him. And, yeah, it was, we wanted some of that. We wanted a lot of that because, as I said, competitors welcome here at the.

Los Angeles Chargers. Finally, I don't think, Jim, I've seen you smile this much. You were great in college. You're one of the all-time greats. There's something about the NFL. You got a smart quarterback who's a tough guy like you. You seem happy, right? That's what I see.

That's what I see, happy Jim Harbaugh. Even on the games, when Herbert comes over to you, it's like you're just in a good mood every time I see you. Do you notice that? Yeah, we, we, that's true. I mean, I think that is guilty as charged there. Very happy. And we have, we have a good time here.

We work hard, but we have a good time doing it. And then, you know, our guys get dead serious about winning on game day. You know, no question about that. And they, you know, they put the work in. It just, it just becomes infectious, you know, like, you know, those that I, those that I named before, I mean, there's nobody like Derwin James that I've ever encountered in football as a teammate or as a player or a coach. And I could just go down the leg. K. Mack, Khalil Mack.

I mean, most humble, hungry warrior you could ever be around and Justin and so many others. I could name another 45 guys. I mean, just I love these guys. And there's no doubt, though. I sit at my desk, you know, right before. right before we did this interview. I mean, it's like, Justin's on our team.

Yes. Well, competitors. It's great. It's, yeah, it's, uh, yeah, we're, uh, we're attacking and we're having fun doing it. Coach, what a pleasure after a win. Go have a nice lunch. Enjoy your day. Make it the best day of the week until next Sunday.

And it's great seeing you again. Well, I appreciate it. I'm a big, big, huge fan of yours and appreciate, appreciate everything. And just how much you, you know, you love and respect Justin, too. I mean, that's pretty darn cool. Yeah. What a great kid. There's nobody tougher.

You know, there's my own personal ranking, you know, and this is my right to have my own personal ranking. So I'm going to preface with that that it's not anybody else's. It's mine. but I've always considered myself the toughest quarterback in the history of the national football league. Being around Justin Herbert, I have moved to number two in the rankings. Justin Herbert is the toughest quarterback in the history of the national football league. I mean, this guy is, I mean, it's become like hack a shack, you know, the way, the way, remember the old Shaq days?

and they could, they just hack him. He's so big and he's so tough to get on the ground that, I mean, the ball's thrown, and it could be the ball's 10 yards down field, and there's still somebody trying to wrestle and grapple him to the ground. He gets hit when he goes out of bounds. He gets hit in the head. He gets face masks during the play. It's, you know, it's incredible.

And, yeah, I just don't have enough adjectives to, to describe, you know, what being around this young man is like and just how fortunate we are as an organization to have him as our quarterback. And the last thing I would say, too, is, I mean, we've all heard of people that, you know, to make a lot of money and, you know, money makes people complacent. Yeah. Not Justin Herbert. No way. The guy is, he was right back in here. I know where to find him, 630, 7.30 in the morning on a, on an off day. He's right down there in the, in the weight room or, you know, getting extra film work. It's never comes in, disheveled, never, never, never sleepy. He's just, he's like a,

he's like a jackhammer, you know, just, just always attacking. Love him. God, so do I. I love, he's one of the nicest kids I've ever met. My whole life, I've been doing this 30 years. I don't think I've met a nicer, more respectful human being who's a star in my whole life. And there's been a lot of good guys. There's a bunch of good guys. He is, he's like nobody else, Just genuine salt of the earth. You can tell you had good parents, good upbringing, just quality dude. And I love that you love it. There's no doubt about it.

Mark and Holly Herbert did an incredible job. They should take a deep long bow. One son's playing at Oregon right now. The other's a resident at UCLA Medical School. And guess where Justin lives, roommates with his brother. Does he? Brothers. How about that, you know?

I love that. Is that incredible? I mean, he probably doesn't want me saying stuff like this, but I just, I just, just, just every day, you know, just, it's just, it's just awesome, awesome being around him. Coach. You're, you're spot out. He is, he is a, he's a wonderful guy off the field and a great player on it. Hey, tell your PR guy, Josh, thanks. He hustles for me all the time.

He's really good. He's good, dude. He's the best. He's the best. He's one of those guys in the organization. All right, catch you. All right. Right, Coach Harbaugh.

I'm getting the hook. Jim Harbaugh. This is the Herd Besto. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential. title for the podcast.

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Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kaelan is joining us live. You know, I was just talking during the break. Nick Saban lives five houses down from you. So it's not like, I mean, to be honest with you, did you lean into Nick when you took the job? Did you give him a call and ask a couple of questions? Or I even got offered the job or took it. Just, you know, just to have that, you know, that was really the first time I'd ever had a chance to talk with him. And you don't want to, you know, let him know. Let him know. that you know everything he did for this program if I became the head coach you know it would be

nothing but embracing that and everyone else that helped him have all the success along the way and of course when I got here there's that's probably when the most questions are and you know there is always help that he was ready to offer anytime I needed to you guys are actually very similar you're more offensive he's defensive but don James was one of the coaches that really helped him I mean he's a acknowledge the former Husky coach, and by the way, as you well know at Washington, Don is, you know, the icon, is that do you see similarities with you and Nick? I do. I see a lot of the same personality. He may yell a little louder, but do you see some similarities? I think that's probably for the people who know us both or played for us,

both, coached with us both. You know, the success of a team or a program, I think there are the common, you know, non-negotiables, the values that you have in and the styles may be different or just how you go by it might be different. But I think those non-negotiables are all the same. And so the Don James reference, that was really part of our first conversation, you know, something that tied us immediately. Your year in the Pac-12 was the best I've ever seen the Pac-12. And those teams, by the way, I think are 21 and 2 this year.

So you really saw the best of the Pac-12, but the SEC is different. It's just bigger up front. Like when you look at film, do you notice the difference? Pack 12 to SEC. Does it jump off the tape to you, Kailen? Yeah, you know, we haven't got into the SEC games, but I've watched enough. And I look at our own team and just up front, you know, what that looks like. And there's no question the size of our guys and just, you know, you're trying to make sure that there's still athleticism.

And it's pretty impressive the way these guys can move, whether it's up on the lines or the second levels. just everyone has that strength, has that mass. And, you know, we're just trying to make sure we use all those tools that we have, you know, to our disposal. Jalen Milro, the offense, if somebody never watched, because panics and all those receivers, you were an aerial show. I mean, it was vertical. It was hyper-aggressive. I don't know. I mean, Alabama is a bigger program, but it'd be hard to duplicate that level of talent at any school.

Will your offense eventually look like Washington, or was that just, you just had uniquely talented guys with the Huskies? Yeah, I think there was unique traits that those guys had, and we really tailored the offense to them. And that's going to be the key for us is Jalen's got some unique traits in special ways. And, you know, as much as he's doing a good job of really learning, the intricacies, the offense, the nuances, we've got to do a good job of continuing to evolve. involve it around, you know, all the players, but it is driven by the quarterback.

And so, you know, front and center with him, we need to make sure we continue to adjust. And I think every week, you know, that's part of the process is understanding what went really well, what can we continue to work on and, you know, tailor around what his skill set is. So Wisconsin Camp Randall is nuts. It is one of the great environments. And I've always said this. In the NFL, you got 28-year-old adults, married kids, grown-ups. You take a 19-year-old and you put him at Camp Randall on a Saturday, and it gets loud and you have a fumble and you trail, when you're going into a harsh environment, you had a couple at Washington where you go on the road, you got 20-year-old kids.

Do you coach different that week? Is the messaging different? Yeah, you know, the guys are just really excited as much as we love playing at Bryant-Denny Stadium here in Tuscaloosa. You know, I think there is something special about going on the road into hostile environments. And, you know, having grown up in the Midwest, I'm well aware of Wisconsin, the tradition, everything there. And Coach Fickle's done a great job here, continuing to move that program here to second year. But our guys, you know, this week, they understand. You know, I wanted to make sure that they knew, you know, on Sunday when we came back in.

And again, here today, what it would look like, what it would feel like. They've been in that environment before. And so, you know, looking forward to going up there and lock up. arms with each other and it goes through it first starts with the preparation but that preparation you know leading to confidence and and uh saturday will come here sooner than later so you lost over 30 players in the transfer portal yet you sign the number three transfer class i i mean listen life changes you have to adapt did you prefer when it was just high school kids do you like some of the transfer portal situations what is recruiting like for a coach now in college football

yeah you're just always on your toes you know you're just uh always really trying to make sure with your own team that you have a culture where there's continuity and the attrition is just really on a lower level. And, you know, the one thing that is nice about the portal is that, you know, when there are, you know, especially coming in right now, the portal obviously caused these situations, but there's, there's areas where we have gaps. We were able to, you know, do the best we could to fill in those gaps. And I think we got some high quality, just not just players, but people that have come in, that fit. us and have done a really nice job. But, you know, I think when you could lay out for years ahead

back, you know, and that's just not that long ago, you know, how many high school guys you were going to bring in each year, there was something to that, you know, and just stay in the course and maintaining relationships with high school coaches and all that stuff. You know, that's still, I think, where it all starts. But, you know, there is a filler, I think, of gaps that the portal does allow us to do. And, you know, that's universal across the board for everyone. He's as good as any young coach. Kalin DeBoer, what he did at Washington, was pretty remarkable. The expectations at Bama are even a notch higher.

Kailen Azores, by the way, I don't know what you did in your decorating, but the room has got more light and bright. Nick was a little dark and intimidating. Your office is sunny and bright and optimistic, so no knock on Nick's design. But you look like Bama's coach. I love the office and congrats. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, Colin.

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