The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - The NFL this season

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Colin talks to Greg Cosell from NFL Films about the Eagles offense, Kyler Murray, Caleb Williams's struggles and if we should be blaming the offensive line  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Boy, he's got good stuff today. We have an interesting slate of games this week. Starts tonight. Philadelphia at home. Big rivalry game against Washington. I like Philadelphia. I think it's a very tough spot to take a rookie quarterback, very little prep on the road to face the old town and roster, probably in the NFC.

It's up there with Detroit and Texas. San Francisco. That's a tough spot for a rookie. I also think if you look at the reality of what's happened to the commanders, they lost to the Ravens, they lost to the Steelers, they lost to a healthy Tampa team. Cliff Kingsbury's history is his offenses get worse over the course of a season. I like Philadelphia to cover tonight. And Philadelphia's had a great five weeks. They are humming. The Steelers are humming.

The Eagles are humming. Now the weather gets cold. The weather gets a little chilly. It's real big boy football. It's physicality. And that's why the Chiefs have become a very physical team. And why Buffalo was Sean McDermott will always be a physical team. But you'll see a little separation here over the last couple of weeks.

And it's one of the things I love. It's one of the things I love about football. We were talking about this last hour. I'm going to throw this back. We were talking about Wembe had 50 points last night. He's an amazing player. But he is averaging eight and a half threes a game, where he's virtually unstoppable 10 feet in.

But that's NBA basketball is about mathematics and equations. NFL football has analytics, but it's about the individual skill of the player. You coach Lamar Jackson different than Jared Goff. You coach a sideline receiver different than Julian Edelman, a slot receiver. In football, pro football, you find out what your players can do, and that becomes your offense and defense. in the NBA, everybody plays the same. Go shoot threes.

Yeah, but I'm 7-4 and dominate inside. Go shoot three. So Wemby's rebounding stats are down because he's way outside. And I understand it, but I think in the regular season, it gets boring. It's just aesthetically, it's just all threes and dunks. I mean, can you imagine in the NFL? Think about this. If analytics said the offense is tush, push, or bombs?

No more screens, no more underneath, just tush-push. Bush and bombs is the way to win. Would it be as interesting to watch? No. And the NBA's ratings right now are in the tank, and they've been on a downward trend as the league becomes increasingly threes and dunks. And I don't mind Steph Curry shooting threes.

But when you take a 7-foot-4 guy and say, yeah, just go shoot threes. I mean, Anthony Davis a couple years ago started shooting too many threes. He went back inside. I thought last year he was a top three player in the league. I don't want to see 7-foot-4 guys jacking up threes. I like the layering.

I like the layering of football. I like screen passes. I like the tush push. I like over the top. Kansas City now, they went two years after trading Tyree Kiel. They never threw the ball down the field. It was death by a thousand cuts. That's fun to me.

I like the layering of NFL football. There's some analytics, but not everybody buys into them. In the NBA, the league is now in the regular season. Threes are dumps. That's it. Nothing in the middle. So that's why I like the NBA playoffs, where you get, it's more about individual

possessions. Like, hey, 88, minute 30 in the third quarter, we need to stop. Or this guy's got four fouls. Go at him, pick up a fifth. It becomes very situational. That's my favorite kind of football, my favorite kind of basketball. But I do think in the regular season, baseball's done this. Home runs or strikeouts, no ground balls.

But I think baseball's done a really good job to shorten their games. That's helped attendants in reading. So baseball, the pendulum swinging back and forth. with analytics, but they've been very smart on regular season. You know, you put a runner on second base. If you go to extra innings, nobody wants a six-hour major league baseball game on a Tuesday. Baseball's also sped the game up, and it absolutely helps. I mean, in regular season, games are like two hours and 34 minutes.

I mean, if you get at Dodger Stadium, you show up in the fourth inning. If you show up 30 minutes late, you can be top of the fourth if you have two aces throwing heat. So I just think that when be shooting eight and a half threes, I don't think it's that appealing to me. That's what the math says. But if they get to the playoffs, and it's a tie game, 104, 104, and there's two minutes left. You know what I'm going to be doing? Get Wemby the ball within six feet. I don't want him jacking threes up.

That's just my take on it. With that, Greg Kosell, 45 years. NFL films joins us now. All right, let's just start. Shane Waldron, somebody had to get moved, because Chicago's been a mess now for three weeks. Shane Waldron got canned as the OC. you watched the film what did you make of that move by the bears yeah i think we know caleb williams isn't getting benched and we know he's not getting traded so they felt

they had to make a move i don't think it's warranted uh don't forget shame walden three years ago was the same coach who revitalized gino smith's career so shame walden did not become an idiot um so a few things and i actually brought my notes column because i didn't want to be didn't want to say any of this wrong because i've obviously watched every one of Caleb Williams snaps this year, and I think over the last two years at USC, I probably watched 15 of his games on coaching tape. So I'm just going to read a couple of things, which I normally don't do, but I think it's appropriate. So right now, everything is happening too fast for Williams. He's not been able to slow down the game mentally, so he gets stuck

in the pocket waiting, and you can't do that. At this point, he too often lacks an effective internal pocket clock, which also forces him to stay in the pocket. pocket too long holding the ball. Okay. And the last point is he's a slow recognizer and processor. He's not making the needed connection between route concepts and coverage. So all this leads to an increased number of sacks. Now, obviously, there are times when his O line is poor and the sacks are not on him.

But remember one thing, and I remember speaking to a lot of coaches and evaluators about this during the draft process. In two years at USC, he got sacked over 80 times. And there were a lot of people that were concerned that that was not just an O-line issue at USC, that that was a Caleb Williams issue. And right now, it's coming to fruition a bit in the league. So this was not a Shane Waldron problem at all. That's great stuff.

I appreciate it. And by the way, Matt Hasselbeck has come on this show, having watched film and said most of the exact same thing. And we've seen this before. Some of these young guys are really good. I mean, I think Mahomes recognizes stuff so quickly. I think there's some, I thought Zach Wilson and Justin

Fields were guys that struggled to recognize coverage, and they were both athletic with good arms. So I think it really is a thing. C.J. Stroud, C.J. Stroud very quickly. Could recognize the defense. Let it rip. It's not, this is a hard position. And some guys just, the game

speeds up, and it takes them a long time to get comfortable. Is that fair? And by the way, this is not to say that he'll never be a good quarterback. This is what we have up to the point right now. This is not a knock on his entire career, Colin. You know that. We've seen things change. This is where we are right now. And he needs a lot of improvement. The problem is now is so many quarterbacks come in the league as brands and stars, and that's the way they get treated. So if they don't play well, it's viewed as everybody else's fault, but the quarterback's fault. And right

now, he just has a ways to go. Okay, so Philadelphia hosts Washington tonight. Eagles running the ball, Hurt has become much more efficient. What is the secret sauce to the Eagles run game? Is it just O-line personnel and Saquan? Well, I mean, more or less, yeah, I think they have a really good O-line, really good run-blocking O-line. It's a big O-line when you look at their two guards. They might be the two biggest guards in the league with Landon Dickerson and Mackay Beckton.

But I don't think Barclay has ever looked better in his entire career. because I've watched Barclay since his Penn State days, and despite his size and the fact that he looks like Tarzan, he was never really a truly physical, sustaining type runner. He was always an explosive runner. This year, he's been very, very physical and getting hard-earned yards between the tackles. And that has really helped this offense. The offense really starts with Barclay. I think he either has the first or the second-most first-down carries per game in the league.

So they start with him. And don't forget, you now add in the Hertz factor as a runner, which is really, really important, both by design and the scrambling element. So the running dimension of Hertz and his ability to throw outside the numbers, vertical balls, really adds to what they can do because they have very, very good receivers who can work effectively outside the numbers. Every team Aaron Rogers is on. There's a lot of finger pointing. Jets' offense.

A four days extra prep against Arizona was a nothing burger. What did the tape say about Aaron and his offense? Something is wrong there in terms of protection. Now, we'd have to assume, because Aaron Rogers has seen everything in his career and is incredibly smart, that the issue is not his. We don't know that, but you'd have to assume that. But I have never seen, if you go back over the last four games, Colin, I have never. seen so many free runners at Aaron Rogers, you could go through five years in Green Bay and never see that. And in the last four games, there's just been so many free hitters, as we say,

at Aaron Rogers. So somewhere, there's a major disconnect between Rogers and the protection, and maybe it's the back. I don't think Bruce Hall is great in Pass Pro. I love the way he runs, and I love the way he catches, but I don't know if he's really good in Pass Pro. But somewhere, there's something missing in terms of past protection with this team. So it's interesting. The Niners brought back Christian McCaffrey. Their special teams are so egregiously bad that that's part of it. But I made this argument that half the league feels like they're running a variation of this offense.

So the element of surprise with a jet suite by Debo Samuel doesn't see, it seems like the league seen it. By the way, McVeigh came into this league. He's had to kind of transform his offense a little bit. People caught up to it. Maybe it's the Niners' age or injuries, because I thought Purdy played very well against Tampa. This offense doesn't feel like it's fooling people enough. Does the film say that? Well, I don't know if I describe any good offense in the league as fooling people,

because coaches coach against coaches, they know what the offense. is it's how you get to what you do. There's not a thousand run concepts. There's not a thousand route concepts. It's how you get to them. So it's the use of formation. It's the use of shifts. It's the use of motion. So now that McCaffrey's back and we saw this last week, we saw that the things they can do, the options they have in terms of motion, shifting, where they align people formationally, that now expands dramatically. And that's what creates space. Because ultimately, past games, particularly if you're playing against Zone, is about spacing. How do you create space? How do you get people into voids? How do you put defenders who have multiple responsibilities in Zone?

How do you put them in conflict? That's what the past game is about versus Zone. And the Niners now, once McCaffrey's there, they can create that space much more efficiently because they can use McCaffrey and Samuel as movement players more so than McCaffrey when he was not there. Let's talk about another team. Detroit, we sort of lament their defense. We lament their defense. But Aidan Hutchison leaves, and the truth is it's an excellent third-down defense with him or without him. And I don't think their defense is their offense, but we've gotten to a point now,

like their defense is really good situationally on third down. What does the film say? Is the personnel better if they hit on draft picks? Yeah, you know, it's funny. talk about this in football because we always think of corners and edge rushers, right? That's what we think about with defense and those are the premium positions. But the lions in some ways are old school, Colin defensively. They may be the best defense in the league up the middle. They have two really good detackles in McNeil and Reader. They've got two really good

stacked backers in Anzolone and Campbell who are both big, and those are traits. Anzolone's 6-3-245, Campbell 6-5-250. Those are traits. And they arguably, arguably, could have the best safety duo in the league in Kirby Joseph and Brian Branch. They are really, really good down the middle. They have a high blitz percentage. They are really good with their blitz schemes. They play a lot of man coverage. They are aggressive. They attack. And as I said, down the middle of their defense, that may be the best in the league. All right, Bill's Chiefs match. up this weekend. I do think this is the best version of Buffalo.

James Cook gives him a real run game. I think by adding Amari Cooper, who's sort of a low-maintenance volume target guy, the rookie. I think this is the best version of Buffalo offensively. But again, Kansas City's defense on any

situational play, maybe the best we've seen in years. What do you expect with all your 45 years of experience at NFL films, what are you looking for this weekend in that matchup? Well, we have a large sample size because it seems these teams play every year, sometimes twice a year as they did a year ago. If you go back to that divisional playoff game last year, which I looked at this week, you'll see that the bill's offense was very conservative, almost risk-averse. They played the game to minimize risk.

Their longest play in that game was 18 yards. And I'm curious to see, because believe it or not, with Josh Allen, they are not really an aggressive passing team down the field. I think the feeling was, let's get Josh into rhythm, let's get the ball out of his hands, let's get a comfortable feel, let it work with our run game. And that may be a good strategy against the Chiefs because the last thing you want are long-yarded situations because there is no defensive coordinator in the league as good as Steve Spagnolo at using defensive backs in his blitz packages. And now that works against a team like the bills because you know Allen will move, but now if you have corners and safeties trying to run him down,

obviously that's a lot better than D-Lineman and linebackers. So I'm very intrigued in this game to see how the bills choose to play offense. So one of the things in this business I try to fight by myself is confirmation bias. I have picks. I want my picks to be right. And so I hold on to my picks. You know, like Denver Broncos, I thought were going to be way better. So so far I look good, but it could get turbulent.

So I looked at Arizona. and I'm like, listen, I like Kyler Murray, we'll see. And it's like, don't forget, they went up to Santa Clara in one. And they were down 10 to Miami and the fourth in one. And we just watched Miami tear apart the Rams. And I look at that offense in the last several games, Greg, and this is what you do for a living. It to me is a lot of a lot. It is a tie-in players.

It's multiple. The quarterback moves. It just looks like it would be a pain in the butt to face. What do you see? Yeah, well, here's something really interesting. When I watched that tape this week, I came away and said to myself, I don't think there was one dropback where Kyler Murray moved. I don't know if I can recall a game like that.

He dropped back 27 or 28 times, something like that, maybe a few less. He did not move one time, Colin. Everything he threw was from the pocket with refinement, with timing. And that means that the coaching staff is doing a really good job. with their route concepts and route design so that when Kyler hits his back foot, he feels really comfortable delivering the ball. So, again, that's not going to happen every week. We know that.

And then, of course, you're seeing this touchdown where his run game by design really becomes a big factor is in the red zone. But they actually have a lot of weapons. McBride is a really good tight end. You can make the argument that he has now moved into the top three or four as a receiver as a tight end. because he has three level ability. He can be vertical, intermediate, and short, and he's very good run after the catch.

And I remember watching him coming out of Colorado State, and I really liked him, and he's really become the player I thought he could be. But they have a lot of weapons, and Murray, you know, it's always, with quarterbacks, you know this, because you look at quarterbacks in the draft. Quarterbacks have strengths, and they have weaknesses. So what do you try to do as a coordinator? You try to maximize the strengths, minimize the weaknesses. So Kyler Murray, because he's short,

ideally you want to be able to have him hit that back foot and deliver the football because he can't sit in the pocket. Bodies get too close to him. And then, yes, he's great improvisationally, but he can't make a living like that. So now they're doing such a good job of matching the route concepts with what he is and the ball's coming out. And they've got pretty good skill people.

Yeah. Okay, now let's wrap it up for the next three or four minutes on Russell Wilson. And I think basically Russell Wilson's the kind of quarterback that got guys like Kyler Murray drafted or a Johnny Mansell. He like, we never wanted smaller quarterbacks. So I kind of thought I loved Russell for years. You always had questions. I loved him more.

And then I kind of bailed on him. I had Pete Carroll didn't want him. Sean Payton didn't want him. Players would criticize him. I'm like, yeah, I was wrong. It just, it's over. Well, I feel like I'm getting 80% of the old Russ. He's not as elusive, but the deep ball is back.

is it i mean you what's the film say yeah it's the seattle model i mean keep in mind that in this last game that warren and harris combined for 35 carries and it was a game in which they were down by 10 in the third quarter so it's basically the seattle model it's a run game as the foundation and it's a defense that's really good they probably have one of the top what five six defenses in the league

and they have great individuals on defense that can change games so that's the way you have to play with russell wilson because he's really good at certain things. Great deep ball thrower has a feel for the game, particularly in critical moments, but he's not a true drop-back progression reader. So you have to play to what he is. Just what we said, you play to strengths, you minimize the weaknesses. But he's played really well, and if you really can define it for him, he can make throws. And of course, the touchdown he hit to Williams was just a ridiculous big-time throw as he was falling backward. I couldn't believe it when I saw it

live and I couldn't believe it when I watched the tape. But I want to show you a play, Colin. This will be our play that we'll talk about, you know, because I think this is really how you help a quarterback and how you define it for him. All right. So if we can go to the play from last week, which I think really speaks to the job that they're doing and then the job that he's doing because you still have to execute it really well. And by the way, George Pickens, pretty talented guy.

So now what we're going to see is we're going to see Wilson in the gun here, okay? And this is an empty set. So empty, of course, means that there's no backs. Nobody is in the back field with Wilson. So now what you're going to get here is from a defensive standpoint is you're going to get coverage rotation. The coverage is going to rotate to the Trips side of the formation, to the three receiver side. So that safety up top, he's going to move and rotate to the trip side. So now what you're going to get is what we call a high, low concept to the twin side.

to the two-receiver side. You're going to get a short sit route and the in-breaker by George Pickens. And the corner is playing off coverage, so Pickens will be clean in his release, free access off the ball. So now this is basically you're reading the corner. The slot corner will be the read. If he sits low, then you're going to throw it to Pickens. Okay? If he drops back, you're going to throw the sit route in front. of them. So the corner tells you, there you see him drop back, so then you throw the shorter route. Now there's one other key factor here that Wilson has to make sure of. While that's his read, he has to make sure that the mic, and that's Wagner, a very savvy player, one of his old teammates,

he has to make sure that he doesn't slide into the passing lane if he wants to throw the inbreaker. So now he gets him to move by looking at him, okay? So he gets him to move his body to the trip side, and now he looks to see where the slot corner is. Where's the slot corner? He stayed low on the sit route. So now with the off-coverage corner, he's got George Pickens wide open on the inbreaker, and this becomes pitch and catch.

And Pickens, you know, I've said this before, that Pickens, at this moment in time, Colin, he's not in the top five in terms of receivers overall, but in terms of physical talent and traits, he would be in the top five. He just has to become that point. player, but all the talent and all the traits are there, and he certainly is a vertical dimension. And you talked about Wilson being a great deep ball thrower, so they've now got Pickens and

Williams, who are both vertical dimensions. Yeah, Pickens is thin, but he's really, really strong. He bowls over corners and safeties. He's just a unique athlete, that size and strength. Greg CoSell, 45 years NFL films, is always Greg. Great stuff. Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it. Yeah. Did you see Jay Mack? His love for the... Arizona Cardinals? That team.

I was just texting someone who is close to the Arizona Cardinals and asking them about what he was just saying. And I mean, this Arizona stuff is getting a little overblown. It's like Arizona, Pittsburgh. Oh, we love them. They're great. They've played great for a few games in a row now. Settle down. Neither can sniff the Detroit

Lions. Neither can sniff the Kansas City Chiefs. Just keep it in perspective. All right. That's a, that's a, that, that, That's a take. It's a reasonable take. Yeah. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day,

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tonight in an NFCE showdown. I think we both like the Eagles here. Jaden Daniels has led Washington's offense to a top status this season and Nick Siriani knows the rookie's performance presents a big challenge. He's came out on fire. He's got his team playing really well. Hats off to their coaches. We'll have a challenge here this week. But can't say enough good things about him. You know, how he can, how he's going to the right place with the football being accurate,

the things he can do with the, when he does, you know, when things do break down, a lot of respect for him and we'll have our handsful. He's good. I think it's an advantage. You know, when you play these mobile quarterbacks and they're in division and you get him multiple times a year,

I think it's a big advantage. I think it's very hard to face of Jaden Daniels, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, when you just don't see him a lot, it's just hard. So I think over the course of time, if I had to face Jaden Daniels, I mean, he's going to be great, but also with Jalen Hertz at practice,

they know what mobility is from a quarterback. this kind of comes down to A.J. Brown, not to take it off Washington too much, but you showed your numbers earlier with the Eagles. With A.J. Brown, they're unstoppable. Like, their offense is, you can't really stop them. Washington doesn't have a guy like that. But we like Terry McLaurin,

but these Eagles young cornerbacks, the two freshmen rookies they got, Hooper DeGine and the other kid. They're playing at a high level. PFF says they're both elite cornerbacks already. I don't know if Washington, who moves the ball easily. I like the under tonight. Do you like a high-scoring game or no?

No, I... There's two or three things I like on Thursday night. The home team, if they're any good. Go against young quarterbacks. So, like, two things I really like Philadelphia. Generally, the better defense. You're not doing a lot... All you're doing is walkthroughs.

You're not hitting this week. You're doing some full-speed stuff, but it's mostly like walk-throughs. Like, you know, somebody was a hasslebacker? Somebody came on and talked. Josh McDaniels talked. about that, I think, yesterday. There's just so, there's only so much you can do. That's why the NFL is at its best when it puts division rivalry games, like Baltimore, Cincinnati, on these Thursday night games. So you know the personnel, you can prep before the season. That's why

some of these Thursday games have been very good. We've gotten like divisional matchup games. It helps. The only problem that hurts is, these are the more important games, like the huge tiebreaker swings. And on a Thursday, a short week, like you said, not ideal. It looks like, Brian Robinson's going to be a go tonight for Washington. He's back at practice. That's huge for them. Next up is the Chicago Bears offense. Oh, boy, where do we start? They fired O.C. Shane Waldron earlier this week,

and reports emerged after the firing that some veterans wanted to see Caleb Williams benched in favor of backup Tyler Bejit. The Bears did not address the report, but Caleb spoke to the support from his teammates. I think they got full of support from me. them. I've gotten texts or calls or people coming up to me

with this situation that just happened. Coming up to me and saying, we got you back. We're with you. That kind of mindset and attitude has been what it's been this past couple days.

And that's kind of what it's only been. Little Rocky. Little rough. Greg Kosell did not pull any punches. He's just not seeing the field. This is what we love to do is media. We love to build up the hype. He could be the next Mahomes.

You see some of the traits. Look what he's doing. And now we're tearing him down as they're struggling coming. But Mahomes got Andy Reid in a year to sit. Caleb had a year to set. Hebrose is an Andy Reed guy, isn't he? And then they coach together? Now listen, first we got some stats on Caleb Williams here on the screen.

It all is bad since week eight. It dead lasted in every category. This is where it gets worse. And this is the stuff that Caleb, this is like self-inflicted wounds. So Caleb had texted the punter when he was drafted of the Bears. You're not going to punt too much here, okay? Everybody's remembering that Caleb texted the punter that. And now we have some stats where the punter has more punts than the Bears do scoring drives.

He has more punting net yards than Caleb does passing yards. And it's like, I feel like it's almost open season on Caleb Williams right now because, you know, teammates don't seem to love him. Everything's coming back in his face. I'm rooting for them, but it's about to get worse, Colin. Have you looked at the schedule going hard for the bear? They may win one more game this season? I mean, they could end up with like five, six wins, maybe. I mean, look at this, Colin.

They're going to, they're underdogs this week. They're going to be underdogs against the Vikings, against the Lions. They're probably going to get destroyed by the Niners. Vikings, lions, see, like, they're not going to be favored. I don't think the rest of the way maybe at home against Seattle they're favorite. But unlikely. Yeah, I mean, it's rough. The NFL did them some favors early with Tennessee and, you know, the Colts, Carolina, Jags, early by.

So the league tried to do, and nobody knew Washington was going to be this good or Arizona. So I do think the league, you know, they gave Jim Harbaugh a very winnable opener. I think the league has always built schedules, maximize the star players and try to create narratives. It's not unfair. It's their league. They can schedule what they want. But they backloaded the Chicago schedule, hoping, probably. I believe for a lot of success early and then, you know, it kind of pulls people in big market Chicago,

but it's, you know, it's like this is a hard league to figure out. We diagnosed this in August. In fact, maybe even earlier than that, because remember, we, I think both said pull the plug on Ibrose. What are you doing? Yeah. And now if they win five games, where you wasted a year of Caleb Williams, right? Now you're going to have to go search for a coach. It's just all bad in Chicago.

Shout out to Bears fans. Final story, Colin. And, oh boy, is a big one. So Chedur Sanders and Travis Hunter expected to be two of the top picks in the 2025 draft. So the draft order is taking shape. And yesterday, Dion Sanders made an appearance here on FS1 on Speak. And Kishon Johnson asked him where he wants to see Chadorland listen closely. Somebody that can handle the quarterback that he is, somebody that can handle understanding that what he's capable of,

someone that has had success in the past handling quarterbacks or someone in a person. an organization understands what they're doing. You told him, hey, man, I ain't taking that sight test with the Giants. Will you step in and do some of that if it's the wrong organization and say he ain't going there? Yeah. Yeah, but I'm not going to do it public. I do it private. Yeah.

Okay. You said you're going to be dead. You're going to be dead. You're going to be dead. Oh, cows come home. Yes, sir. And with Travis as well. Oh, yeah.

I can't. I see. I get that sure. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't have a problem. problem with it because I watched John Elway and Eli Manning's dad step in

at least Eli Manning and I love Archie Manning but there are a lot of incompetent owners and organizations and you get one shot at this. If you fail early, you almost never get a second legit shot. You become a bounce around guy like Sam Darnold. So

I get it. Like I think Brian Daibold be great because he's had Josh Allen. Oh really? Well I think he you got a number one receiver, you got a great defense, And I think Brian Dables, an offensive coach, who had a very active athletic quarterback in Josh Allen. But most of this stuff here, Titans, Browns, Raiders, Patriots, Saints, yikes. So what happens if, I don't know, the Saints get the number one pick?

Is Dionne Sanders going to say he's not going there? Sorry? Who's the coach? Who's the coach? And what about the Raiders? I mean, we go down this list. Raiders have no proof they can develop a quarterback. Deon opened a can of worms.

Like, we all knew that this was coming. So this bothers you? I mean, it depends. What organization am I? It's weird because we all want to be good parents. And you could say, just get out of the way. And most parents should. 99% should get out of the way.

This is number one pick in the NFL draft. In a sport, 30% of the owners are awful. 40% to 50% of the coaches should be coordinators. They're just not head coaches. I mean, look at Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert finally has a legitimate coach. Oh, God, he's one of the kids. top five quarterbacks in the league. He's been bailing water for years with them.

The toughest part is I agree with what he, I agree with the sentiment. I want my kid to go to a good place. Who doesn't? But if I'm the league and I'm looking at this, Colin, you know what the next step is, right? If you're one of these teams that Chador is drafted by, start looking over your shoulder if you're the head coach, because Dionne Sanders is going to be coming. You're going to hear the chatter the second he's drafted, even if it's dable, Colin. If it's dayball and they win six games, that three straight years don't playoff. Listen, and Dionne Sanders will be coaching them the following year. Remember, before the draft, we heard rumors that Caleb Williams was not a fan of going to Chicago.

Think maybe this morning he regrets it? I mean, we heard those stories. I brought it. I was told this. Remember that? Not that it was a controversy, but I had said I was told by a source. Chicago was not the perfect fit, but Caleb was going to be a nice guy and play along. That's funny.

Washington quarterback. Sean Payton's got a quarterback without as much talent. So I'm going to defend the kid here and the dad in a rare situation. Right. Is that when the Caleb Williams story broke, I was told, and then it got public. Hey, coward said, and then Caleb came out and said, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I was told privately there were concerns. Well, you're seeing the concerns.

From their perspective, it's fine. But look at it from the team perspective. Let's take the Vegas Raiders. Do you want to draft Shedwer Sanders? Yes. Okay. So Antonio Pierce, who's your head coach? you just, he's done.

You just get him out of there, get Dion in as a head coach, because that's the next step. And I don't see that there's anything wrong with that, but just know that's, they're going to take over your organization, Dion and Shadur, which maybe is a good thing, because they're, you know, a pretty good coach quarterback combo right now. I don't know. All I know is if I have the number one pick and I don't have a quarterback,

I'm taking Shadur Sanders. I'll deal with the repercussions later. I don't think Prime. I don't think Dion's going to be a headache. I think Dion's going to be a proud, or if he goes to an offensive coach in an organization he trusts. Unfortunately, most teams drafting in the top five, you can't trust. New York Jets?

Do you trust that organization? No. If Woody Johnson wasn't in the picture and it was Chris Johnson, I would be more into that. Is Chris Johnson a real person? Well, you know, Chris Johnson is... Oh, Christopher Johnson. Yeah, Christopher Johnson. Yeah, so I just, I think, again, I'm not a big fan of helicopter parents.

In sports, it's a real problem. But Elway, Eli Manning. Eli Manning's dad, Eli's like, he's... He's not going to the Chargers. We're not doing that. I totally get that. And by it worked out pretty well with New York. Did work out pretty well, yeah.

John Elway as well, right? It's not like I just do what I do. I can get multiple chances. But a quarterback gets one shot. Sometimes you get a second, but rarely. Baker got a second. Not big money, though. Sam got a second chance.

Minnesota's going to move off. Drew Breeze was an injury situation where a doctor wouldn't give him the okay to play in Miami. But it's, it's, you know, It's just very, very rare. Generally, people make decisions. And, by the way, Justin Fields, we're like, well, he deserves the minute Russell Wilson went there and starts winning games, we're all like, yeah, Justin Fields is a backup. And realize, society's changing.

Social media has changed things. I mean, COVID change. Like, there's so much change happening that I think we've got to open our minds and be like, I think this isn't just the first in a while, right? There's going to be more of these parents. Well, when you're clear, if it would be different if there were sick, like last year's quarterback class. Or the one with Burrow and Tua and Herbert. It's one thing if there's like four or five guys we all like. But Dion's got leverage.

There is one quarterback that you would take number one. Cam Ward's not a number one pick. He may work, but he doesn't, I don't feel like he's a number one pick quarterback. Probably a first round guy. But again, last year, there have been years. One year we had Hertz, Herbert, Burrower, Tua. I mean, they're missing somebody, but it was like, okay, then I'll just, I just won't pick him. move down. Dion knows. Dion Smart. He's been in this game for a long guy. He knows he's got

the guy. And Travis Hunter, arguably, is the second best player. He may go number two. How about that? When's the last, would you have a guest in your life? Who are the two best players in college football? They play for Colorado. So for anybody questioning Dion Sanders, that's pretty remarkable. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Our big bets next. live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.

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All right, we do it every week at this time. It is our big bets. It's time for big bets. Colin and J. Mack make their favorite big ten bets of the week. All right, I'm going to take the under 47 points on UCLA and Washington. The Bruins' top seven rush defense in college football. And Washington's offense getting worse. They're struggling.

but they do defend the pass well. The Huskies have the number one pass defense. I think it's a competitive game. UCLA's played very well against Iowa. They're leading with defense. I think it's low scoring. It's a go-either-way game to me, but the under-47 is tasty. Yeah, I'm shocker.

I'm with you on that. Under 47, that's also one of my bets. I think we're 7-0 when we both have the same bets. After the 1-5 start for UCLA, they've just been cooking. Tough team playing a lot of defensive mind and football. I like under 47. I'm going to take Nebraska plus nine and a half. If they win, they're bowl eligible, and USC's got a sanction on their hands.

It is a mess. Their defense, which was good early, has really deteriorated if they're not getting a consistent pass rush. Two and five against Big Ten teams. Yeah, they're at home, but how many people show up? It's not a home field advantage. And I'll be honest with you, first game under Dana Holgersen, the new coordinator at Nebraska. a lot of experience. I think Nebraska's offense shows.

I think they have a chance to win this game. I'm taking the points with Nebraska nine and a half. Okay, I will get an ugly dog. This one has some fleas. Northwestern plus 29.5 against the Ohio State Buckeyes. This is simply another one of these look-ahead plays. Ohio State next year, or next week, sorry, with the game of the Big Ten weekend against Indiana.

Undefeated Indiana next week. I'm going to go ahead and guess Ryan Day doesn't want to force any guys to play four quarters. year. I think they power down early. Coast are like a 27 to 7 victory. I'm going to take Oregon minus 14. Their offensive line was a mess against Idaho and Boise State. They're now allowing one sack of game best in the Big Ten. Dylan Gabriel, this is the fastest team in the Big Ten. And let's be honest about Wisconsin, it's not exactly a quarterback factory. I mean, it's just not, they've been held under 15 points in back-to-back games. They're a little banged up. Again, Wisconsin can be a tough environment. They can't score.

and nobody has shown the ability. Least of all Ohio State, nobody stops Oregon when they're focused. It is a Big Ten game. I can, I'll lay the 14 points with Oregon. Damn, I'm with you as well. Oregon minus 14. Listen, it's a bleak Big Ten slate this week, but Oregon should lay the lumber to Wisconsin.

The Badgers, I mean, they're garbage right now. Honestly, you look at the last three games. They're playing so bad. Can't do anything, right? This is an Oregon pick your score, 42, 14. Yeah. You know, do they do jump around if Oregon's winning? by a million points at the end of the third?

I think they do jump around out to their car and lead camp Randall. I think it's ugly. A couple extra beer bongs. Yeah, we agree on two of our three picks. By the way, if you're ever worried about your safety at home, SimplySafe, 60% off that system now. SimplySafe, collin.com. There is no safe like SimplySafe.

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Does he say, I'm done? I don't need any of his headaches. Let me go to the NFL. Problem is the NFL job openings aren't good. This year? Why would Lending leave Oregon? Oh, no, this year? Bad.

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