The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - The Steelers need a QB

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

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Friday. Even in the NFL off season, it's football Friday because with all the draft speculation and things that are out there and quarterbacks move in and quarterbacks Well, we've talked football the entire time. Well, yeah. I mean, just so we're clear on that. Do we miss anything in the NBA? I don't believe so. No, I don't believe so.

Although the two guys that fought pregame, apparently, you know, there will not be charges pressed, but the NBA did suspend the gentleman from the pistons for throwing down. Little Donnie Brooke last week. You know, I just asked the question on my social. You could check me out on King of the Mammals too. What up, King of the Mammals? What up, King?

I just asked, you know, there was a big fight. You know, the Devils and the Rangers played, and the fight erupted. Dude ends up with a bloody nose. What up? You know what I mean? What up, Kying? Kai.

What a Kang? I'm the Kang. Kai. Nobody. Nobody can be the king like me. It's paid and foreground here. Hey, why is it okay to the

whoop ass and hockey? Yeah. But it's like, oh, well, charges weren't fouled and in the basketball. It's because no one got to see it. Everyone gets to watch it in hockey, man. NBA, it happens like, what, back behind everything?

Why do you think it's okay, Johnson? Oh, no. Oh, no. Are you saying there's some tracks there? Like, it's okay on this side of the tracks and it's not okay on that side? Is that what you meant? You smoke crack, don't you know? Listen, it's been it's been grandfathered in to the NHL.

I mean, they throw down. you know, clothes lining, you know, chop blocking, you know, crackback blocks. Those were grandfathered into the national football league. You can't do it anymore. I'm just wondering because our society, our culture has gotten so very, very, I'll say touch-sensitive, because I don't want to, you know, I want to say soft, and I just did. But it's got so touch-sensitive to everything that has to do with anything that makes you uncomfortable and the physicality of something that takes place.

I just thought I found it to be interesting that fighting is still okay. And hockey. Let me ask you a question. The head slap. Yeah. Was that really effective? Yes. Or was it just because Reggie White was good at it.

Well, first of all, was Deacon Jones who made it popular. What I'm Deacon? Basically what he was on. Rest easy, Deacon. But, you know, he was given basically guys concussions every time he slap him, you slap him in their earhole. You know, you slap the open hand slap in the airhole. giving a guy a concussion. So you were basically right. He was going through linemen down a pop.

You know, it's like we don't have any more lineman to put over there. He's slapping them all out. So the head slap was very, very effective. Any chance we could get the head slap back. I wish. Power slap. Think about the clothes line. The clothes line with Mel Blunt and some of the nicknames, like they called him Bone, you know, Lester Hayes and we can't say what because people are too touch sensitive in our culture anymore. to even say what his nickname was, right? But they used to close line dudes away from the ball carrier.

Like, well, they closed line the ball carrier. Like, guys were out there close. They was playing for keeps clothesline, like straight up and getting like neck. You know? And if you were to see that now, people, like, imagine the reaction you would get if you saw the way some of our greatest most historical and celebrated players, if you saw them play in today's NFL, imagine the reception they would get.

Imagine that. What about, you know, Len Doss and having a lung dart post game in the locker room? I mean, that's OG stuff. Yeah. That's like Lee the Lapp stuff right there. Oh, yeah, sure is. What did my man Jack Lambert say?

Give me another six pack. Let's run it back. Old lung dart to lap. Yeah. That's like there's no way. Tank. By the way, have we talked to Lee today? He's right here, ready to go.

He's extra time now that we're not getting up in the middle of the night. He couldn't care less. This is my sleep time. He had Margaritaville. Yesterday was the National Margarita Day. He got to sleep it off. You got to sleep it off, right? That's right.

I slept way longer than I've ever slept. Over under three and a half margs yesterday. How many did you have? I hit the under. I disappointed everybody yesterday. Oh, man. Yeah. Because you mixed too much.

What? No. You probably, you know, you probably had like one or two margs, and then you started mixing another journey. drinks. Well, I did have a paloma in honor. I had three Palomas. I had three Palomas yesterday. You had three Palomas for lunch? Yes. With what? A steak salad. A trite-tip steak salad. Oh, that sounds good. With French fries on. Did you make it or you get it somewhere?

No, no. We went sat outside. We were sitting out front, you know, sitting on Main Street of Glendora. Shots out to Glendora. What up Dorah? Not Dora to explore. I call it. I call it door. Swiper, no swiping. Yeah, so I had three Palomas. Yeah, I feel pretty good, too. I slept it off. I was up at 1.30.

I was like, my body woke me up at 1.30. So I'm sitting there looking up at the ceiling at 1.30, like it was way too quiet. We got a dog next door that any time a coyote or a beer or any type of wild, and something goes past. He's outside. So he has this wild-ass, really high bark, high-pitched bark. So I'm just looking at the ceiling and listening to the dog bark for literally like three, three, four hours. bored. And by the way, if you wanted to know whether or not

Lavar was from Pittsburgh, what did you have on your steak salad yesterday? French fries. Got to put some friends. And if they are good french fries, oh man. It's so funny because it's not enough. So you put the french fries on your salad and you're eating it on the salad with a side of french fries to go with your salad. So I'm eating french fries off the side along with the salad, french fries. Oh. That's fixed fries. I love when I get Q. I was all with you with the french fries and the salad until you had the side of

fries as well. That's how you know I'm from the bird. That's where I was like that's a lot of fries. It's a lot of starch. It's a lot of fries. It's a lot of starch. And then I put 25 minutes in on the steam room. I went to the steam shower immediately upon my arrival to my crib. 25 minutes, sweat it out. You know, it's like sweating that alcohol out. So the three Paloma's gone. All those French fries gone. The calories out of there. Out of there. Yeah. Hammer. Well, the same. Well said.

Canons. Well said. Thank you. Speaking of Pittsburgh. Terry Bradshaw. It's a great segue. Yeah. Legendary Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback, also one of the greats at Fox with the NFL pregame show. I mean, he's saying and throwing his support behind Kenny Pickett to be the quarterback in Pittsburgh.

Hell yeah. Yeah. Listen, he's supporting his guy. wasn't always very supportive of Ben Rothesberger. They had a little bit of a backup point for years. But he's throwing his support behind Kenny Pickett. Well, Chad Johnson was on with Shannon Sharp, and he threw out an idea,

something he may have heard about a potential quarterback replacement in Pittsburgh, if indeed Kenny Pickett's not the guy. A little bird he told me, and I said this many shows ago, if Russell Wilson coming on over there to the Steelers, Cleveland had Deshawn for the AFC going to be hell. You do really? I think right now I saw

on Draft Kings the betting favorite is Justin Fields to end up in Pittsburgh. No, he's going to Atlanta. I always said I thought he would be back a big 2.0. So that was Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson on the nightcap show. And we played that sound bike. Why?

Listen, if you were If you were to just say, if you had to project or predict, if you had to project or predict, who is going to end up where, Russell to Pittsburgh seems like it does make the most sense. The Justin Fields is another conversation altogether. But Russell Wilson, a little bit of a, I guess career repair with Mike Tomlin and company in Pittsburgh, does make some sense. But that would signal that Kenny Pickett is getting Zach Wilson's. That's what it seems like to me. Kenny Pickett's getting Zach Wilson. That's how we described that.

Yeah, he's getting Zach Wilson. I mean, it's self-preservation at this point. I'll tell you that. How is that even close in comparison? Because the Jets brought in Aaron Rogers. That was after Wilson had already played a good amount over the course of the first couple of seasons. It feels like the Steelers are done on Kenny Pickett.

Yeah, that might be the case, but it's a little different. Like, I don't know that they ever put as much support behind Kenny Pickett. pick it as they should have. You know you love that take. You know you love that take. I'm being kind right now because we're on the herd. If you're on our show, I'd have laid into you a little bit more. Awful take.

In all seriousness, the issue with Pittsburgh was their play calling. And Mike Tomlin is a future Hall of Fame coach. But if there's one thing I think he struggled with was how loyal he was to Matt Canada. And you saw an offensive improvement. once they made the change this past year, unfortunately, to your point about if they've given up on Kenny Pickett,

once they got hot, and whether that's a byproduct of Mason Rudolph's play, his understanding of the system, his time in the league, whatever he want to point to. When Pickett came back and was healthy at the end of the season, he wasn't the guy starting. That would lead me to think that,

and LeVar, you brought up a great point yesterday in saying this. That would lead me to think one or two things. Either they have given up on him, and they're preserving him to trade him, or maybe he wasn't 100%. Because there was times when he came back from injuries over the course of the past couple of seasons where you felt like it was pretty soon, or maybe too soon,

whether it could be a concussion, whether it could be other things that he was dealing with. Remember, he had that ankle injury that he was coming back from. So it's hard to anticipate what's going to happen. But we'll know this. Whoever they bring in will give you a surefire tell as to what that ultimately means for Kenny Pickett. If it is Russell Wilson, it's over.

I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't try to trade him potentially under his rookie deal. If it's someone else who's not really the guy that I think is going to take over and still be the starter, and it's not that Ryan Tannenhill couldn't be the starter and do well there, but he's older too. They're not looking at him as being the guy for the foreseeable future. If Russell Wilson goes there, I'm telling you right now, he's saying I'm going there because I want to win, I'm going to revamp my career, I'll try to win a Super Bowl. It's two different feelings, even though those two are obviously close in age.

You just feel like they're at different points still in their career. But, you know, it's just a different feeling. Tannenhill's got experience Arthur Smith's offense, who's now the O.C. in Pittsburgh, so it would make some sense there. I just wonder, one, my first thought is what, how much, how much strength or how much, how much influence is connected to Terry Bradshaw coming out and saying it. I would be curious to know how that was received in Pittsburgh, because that is pretty cool to have a vote of confidence from one of the greatest quarterbacks and players in the history of the franchise to come out in support of you.

That would be one. My second thought, just listening to what we were talking about, is one, I mentioned self-preservation. You got to believe for all the success that Mike Tomlin has had, no losing seasons, you know, being able to make the playoffs against all odds, that there's still a very, very strong undercurrent of feeling as though it could be time to move on from Mike Tomlin and go in a different direction and get some new energy and new blood in there to see if they can shake things up in Pittsburgh. My third thought was Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh, I know Pittsburgh very well. I grew up there

I learned how life is lived as a Pittsburgher It's a 412 man It's it is the 412 It's the 724 There's a couple more But I just

I don't know That Russell Wilson Would be a fit for Pittsburgh Dang what's that mean man I just don't know that he would be a fit for You're saying he couldn't eat fries on a salad Is that what you're saying? I'm saying

I'm saying I don't know if he's a fit for Pittsburgh. Are you saying there are no 12 bathroom, four bedroom houses in the Pittsburgh area? No, there's some dope houses in the burg. You go into the McAnnellas area, Fox Chapel, Mount Lebanon.

I would actually be willing to bet there is not a house in Pittsburgh that is 20,000 square feet. Is that how big it was? Something like that, close to 20,000. Four bedrooms, 12 bathrooms. Because I don't think, There's builders that walk around Pittsburgh.

Building homes with IBS. I'm going to have to push. Sorry. I'm just saying. I don't think they're walking around. Is that a software company? No. That's so funny.

Irritable bouncing. This is the IBS home. I'm just saying, I have no idea. They're going to make that constructed a home with that many bathrooms, that much space. They're going to make that a category on Zillow. IBS. That's got to be a one of one.

13 rest rooms and two bedrooms. Who's the architect on that? I was like, well, you know, they've got a lot of people in this house. A lot of hosting to do, man. Got to spread it out where people can take care of the business. I think that that plays a part in the whole idea of if he would be a well-received player in the Pittsburgh area. We just had Pittsburgh is a bunch of hard-nosed blue collar, lunch pail hard hat, guys working mills. you know, we're just prideful on being heart-nosed, tough, regular dudes.

I just don't know if you can't just bring in somebody and be like, yeah, he's had a great career. He can make our team better. It still has to be somebody that kind of... I think he'll be just fine. I don't know, man. I think if he's winning, it's fine. I just think integrating, because part of being a good professional, And in markets at the pro level is integrating into the community to a certain degree.

And especially in a market like Pittsburgh. I just don't know that his personality. You don't think he could integrate into Pittsburgh? I just don't think his personality is a conducive personality for the Pittsburgh way. What is that even me? He's soft. He played in the beach. He's just certain other.

He never misses games, really. Southern certain other, yeah, but his suits kind of threw people off. He played in Wisconsin. He threw me off. suits. The one suit just went past the shiny meter. It was too shiny on the meter of shininess. Now we're judge a dudes based on fashion. Yes. I mean, although the league is a fashionable place anymore. Like I get a guy's dress and they wear these interesting outfits and all that stuff. I'm just saying some of that stuff doesn't fly in certain markets. He played at

Wisconsin. You know, he's familiar with the 10. Okay, but that was before he was a star, though. We didn't see him. He was still hungry when he was that guy at Wisconsin. and went to Seattle. Like it was, he's not what he is now. He's like a superstar now. You know, he's an entourage.

You know, uh, he was in the movie. He's like an actor. You know, he's married to this amazing actor. Uh, uh, what is it?

What is she? A performer. You know, that's, that's, you know, he's just a different dude. He's evolved.

And I don't know that his evolution would fit in a place like Pittsburgh. And do you take that chance? I mean, you might be right. I'm kind of neat. I'm kind of neat. I'm a tad bit Neanderthalish on this,

but I'm just saying. I am the king. I am the king. And I know they play on the north side of Pittsburgh, and if you're from the burg, you know exactly what I mean. Hey, listen, stay out of south side, you know, Carson's Street.

Hey, I've got an idea. What we got? You're from there. So why don't you take them under your wing? Yeah, come on. It could be like training day. No, I'm not. It could be.

You ever get your in? Why don't you send him a case of, why don't you send him a case of Iron City? Send him some Iron City light. He wouldn't drink it. He wouldn't drink it. You don't think so? No, if I was like, let's go sit at the point where all the three rivers meet.

Let me tell you the story behind the three rivers. Let me tell you the players that come from each side of these rivers. There's guys that are connected to the Allegheny. There's guys that are connected to the Monongahela. And there's guys that are connected to the Ohio. Take them to a Pirates game. Say you had more bathrooms and people here. I don't want to give him a bad impression, you know.

Whoa. Come on now. The pirates, the pirates just did something historic. What was that? Did they just sign someone to like their second largest contract in the organization? Oh, yeah. Oh, what's it? Was it Keller or?

Yeah. The pitcher. It sounded like a five-year, 77 million dollar deal. I'm just saying, dude, they're actually paying people now. I mean, listen, you know, they couldn't figure out a way to keep Barry Bonds, but they figured out a way to sign that Keller. They had Barry Bonds, Bobby Bonilla. They had Andy Van Slyke.

all on the same team. And now they can't have Russell Wilson because you say he doesn't fit the culture. I mean, I'm just saying. Think about those dudes I just named. Heart-nosed dudes. Does he remind you of a yammer yager? I got to ask you. Does he remind you of a Mario Lameau? Like, does he give you those vibes? I got to ask because with the C. What was his slogan? Because it was Let's Ride with the Broncos and then it was Gohawks with the C-Hawks. What is the Steelers? What is that? I would love for him to try to come up with one and see if the Pittsburgh faithful would go with it. I would love it. Like what's the go-to in Pittsburgh? I don't know.

I don't know. Iron up. I don't think we're not slogan-driven. It sounds like a 1980s movie slogan. We're not a slogan-driven-driven people. To all the right moves. Iron up. I mean, at the very least, Russell Wilson would be an upgraded quarterback.

It is not that. You can't dispute. You can't dispute that point. We could say whatever we want. Been a long-ass time since they want a playoff game. So they need to. help there. And if you bring in Russell Wilson and CR, I mean, that would be

a fun pairing in Pittsburgh, you know? They'd blend right in with all the other celebrities there. They bring all their goodies. Yeah. Dang. She sing that song? My goodies. My goodies. I mean, some would say they'd be leveling up. I mean,

they would be more into Sierra than they would, Russell Wilson. Sierra might be her gateway or his gateway into being accepted in the burg. Now, Brady, brother-in-law, Jack Johnson, the hockey player. He would fit. He played for the penguins for a short time. He got chipped

teeth. You know what I mean? Like, that's what we do. All right. So now how, at Jack's house that he got in the Pittsburgh area, how many bathrooms you're talking about? I could guarantee. Where did he live? Did he live in North North Park? I can't recall. I don't remember. I never had a chance to visit his Pittsburgh house. Okay. All right.

I do know they love the community. They love the people there. They love the fans, the organization, all of it. They thought it was awesome. Because he's tough. I can promise you this. There wasn't the four bedrooms to 12 bathrooms ratio. I just, I don't know that I've ever met or been to anyone who has a house like that or seen a house with that few bedrooms and that many bathrooms. I mean, at that point, if you need that many, don't you just go straight to the shower?

Like, if it's that much of a problem, let's cut out the middle, man, and get to where we need to go here. Like, I'm just trying to think of like, what rooms do they have that you need a bathroom off of outside of the office? It's hard to find justification for why you would have so many bathrooms. and not enough bed rooms to match. Do you want a bathroom right off your, you know, you probably don't want a bathroom too close to certain common areas. I got to admit, I got a lot of bathrooms in my crib,

and at times I've been like, dang, which one do I want to go to? Which one is the closest one? So, like, do I go left or do I go right? You struggle with figuring out which one to go to? I don't want to say it that way. I want to say,

am I living room? Because I think Pittsburgh Hard Hat Lunch Pail, I think, Which bathroom do I choose right now? But I'm still a tooth chipper, though. I'm still a tooth chipper. Yeah. I still, I got my clubber laying shorts on underneath that.

I'm gonna go work out in today. He's got clever laying shorts on. I'm still, I'm still a tough SOB, you know. And I don't, I don't ever, I've never gotten to the point of where I'm a soft lotion using hand boy. Oh, damn. And be excited about the lotion container and taking off my rings and softening up my hands. My hands have calluses on them. You know, they're banged up.

You know, some of them have swollen knuckles. I got dirt under my fingernails. I'm a Pittsburgh through and through to the heart no matter where I live. Me too, man. I'm just saying, based upon the spirit of a Pittsburgher, which was built and based upon, you hear this dude? Based upon the steel curtain and what they created in the 70s, we all walk around and live with that mentality. We walk around with a boulder on our shoulder. Yep.

Not a chip, not a pebble, not a rock, a boulder. So you're going to come to the burg and play. You come to play understanding that that's who we are. That's what we represent. And if you go there, they want you to feel special, much like Discover. There you go. Did you know Discover wants everyone to feel special? That's why with your Discover card, you have access to 24-7 customer service as well,

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Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because. of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah.

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your We've got some moving and shaking in the NFL when it comes to contracts. For those of you that are unfamiliar, he's not going to like that I say this, but I'm going to say it anyways. I have called Brady Quinn the best in the business that I've ever heard when it comes to breaking down what contracts actually mean in the NFL. Like nobody better. He makes it easy to understand. He makes it easy to figure out.

But to me, it's pretty easy to figure out that Gino Smith and Dave. Eric Carr, the time there with their current organization and franchises, we could be looking at maybe this next year and then who knows after that, because there's been some restructuring of their contracts. It's going to create some more cap space. But there is the potential that maybe there could be a new quarterback at somewhere, some point during this offseason on either the Saints or the Seattle Seahawks, so much so that Draft Kings currently has the Seattle Seahawks.

The Hawks as the favorite to draft one Michael Pennix Jr. So if you believe that there's some familiarity there, obviously being in the backyard of Seattle, that maybe Michael Pennix Jr. could be an option, a quarterback if they decide this is it for Gino Smith. But when it comes to the Saints, either way, been a disappointing past few months for the New Orleans Saints. Man, I would love that for Michael Pennix. You know, one, just from a fan of football and watching him over the course of his his career. For a lot of people don't know him on a national stage. I mean, I think they got a chance to

probably the last two seasons because he really broke out as the quarterback at Washington, but he went through so many injuries and so much adversity during his time at Indiana. And there were still those bright moments where you saw what he was capable of. And once he got to Washington, he flourished. And now he's become a guy that we're talking about potentially being a first round pick. And I could see it making a lot of sense. I mean, his game is most easy to compare to in C.J. Stroud with what we saw C.J. Stroud do his final year at Ohio State. I mean, the downfield accuracy, the ability to continue to keep his eyes downfield, move in the pocket, or move, and make big plays downfield is very reminiscent of that. Now, he's a lefty, so it's different, but his motion looks, it appears unorthodox to a lot of people, but he's got a strong arm.

he's very seasoned smart young man i hope he gets the opportunity to go someplace like that because he wouldn't get rushed in and can you imagine if it's if it is d k mecalf tyler locket and jackson smith and jigba do he i mean it would be like basically what he had in washington with roma duncea and polk and all those guys too that he was throwing to so that would be a ton of fun to watch man it really would. I like penics. I've said I've liked penics for a while. I hated him as a fan because as Indiana Hoosier, he beat us pretty much by himself. We couldn't stop him on some short yardage situations and it led to Indiana getting an upset over us while he was there. I got an opportunity to see him watch him in person when they played against Oregon and the Pac-12.

finale of championships. And I mean, he makes the throws. He missed a couple in the big game. But to see him in person, he's a pretty impressive dude to watch play the way he navigates. You look at what he does. And a lot of times, you know, you can look at the way somebody plays. And you can, you know, I guess classify it as, okay, that person's an athlete or that person

is got a super high IQ or maybe this person is, you know, I don't know, maybe he's both, you know, maybe he's a pocket pass or he's a mobile, mobile guy. Penix to me shows balance. You know, you see a balance in him, you see a maturity level in him, and his approach to the game has been so seemingly well calculated the way that he's been there. I didn't, I didn't even realize that he had made the move from Indiana to Washington. and to take himself from a school that is literally a doormat for one conference, and you're a lone, sole, you know, bright spot for this program, and then you go to a program that's loaded with talent and older talent,

and you're able to put yourself on a national level and a national spotlight the way that he was able to do. I mean, I give him a lot of credit and whoever it is that if it's just him or if it's his family or whoever's involved with, you know, the way he's approached his college career. I mean, I think he's made some really, really strong decisions that worked in definitely, you know, positive for where he's trying to go in his career. So I think he has the opportunity to be a fine pro if in the right situation, if given the right scenario and situation, much like any prospect that comes out.

New Orleans was such a disappointment last year. I mean, they won't get my trust anymore. They won't get my vote of confidence anymore. You said the same thing about Baltimore last year, and they hosted an AFC title game. How about that? They still let us down. I just, I don't, like, and I'm looking. Just not as badly as New Orleans did. The thing for New Orleans, though, you look in that division and you go, what the hell is it?

Like, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This was your year to do it. I wonder if they really overachieved, and last year was sort of an anomaly. How vulnerable was the NFC South this year? I mean, let's be honest. How vulnerable was it? Very. And you couldn't win it this year?

You couldn't do it this year? Yeah, and they did not play well at times. They will not get my trust anymore. They will not get my votes of confidence anymore. Is there a prop or is there a bet as far as their odds or chances of taking a quarterback? Ooh, efforting. Because there's always a couple surprise teams. And I've said this year, I think there's six guys who go in the first round.

They're picking it 14 as it currently stands. New Orleans. I think when you line him up, Caleb Williams, he's the guy I would put there a number one. And I think right behind him

is Jaden Daniels from LSU, Drake May from North Carolina. The next guy after that's probably J.J. McCarthy. And then I think you're going to see Michael Pennix or Bow Nix and the only thing, and this is what everyone says,

and I'm not a doctor, so I'm not going to read into it. But Pennix injuries, teams are going to hold against them because of how many he's had on his shoulder and knees, all this stuff. Don't care.

His tape is ridiculous. So I would say those six quarterbacks I could all see going in the first round based on what I've seen on tape. And that's where you start looking at the numbers and saying, all right, there's a good chance. And by the way, this is a deep class. It's not like we just say, oh, it's top heavy. There's six guys going in the first round. Like Spencer Rattler, who, you know, look, I know it didn't work out of Oklahoma initially. He goes to South Carolina.

Jonas Knox is game Cox. And I think he's going to show out well with the comments. And I'll say this. The combine starts February 27th. I don't know when Joe Milton, all right, quarterback from Tennessee lands there, but as soon as everyone sees this young man,

how big he is and how strong his arm is, you're going to start here and how he's going to fire up the draft boards. I promise you about that. That kid has as much upside as anyone we've seen in a long time when you look at just his raw skill set

and what he's capable of. So this is at Michael Pratt's another one. My guy, Sam Hartman. This is a loaded quarterback draft class. I just have a hard time believe in Seattle and New Orleans are teams that won't take one at some point. Now, Bo Nicks I'm seeing here as far as quarterbacks

with the best odds directly correlated to New Orleans. Bo Nicks, I'm seeing as the guy with the best odds when it comes to New Orleans. Although in front of him are teams like the Broncos who have better odds, the Raiders, the Vikings, the Pats. So,

you've got to go down a little bit and some things would need to fall into place, but Bo Nix could be, and there's, you know, the Drew Breeze comps I've seen with with Bo Nix out there as well too. So I'm sure people in New Orleans would, uh, would be interested in that. Yeah.

So there's, uh, there's that. Uh-oh. What? What's at the comp? You know, you're not saying? I just, I, well, I mean, Breeze didn't run around as much as Nix did, especially early in his career. But no, when you're looking at a completion percentage, I mean, obviously, Drew was,

one of the most accurate quarterbacks and, you know, completed the highest percentage of balls, especially towards the end of his career for a long time. NICs just set the NCAA record last year. So it makes a lot of sense. How many times was Bo Nix sacked

in his career? Wasn't it like under 10 in his career? Like a crazy number? Yeah. I don't think it's that. I don't think that's right. Like I think he barely got tough. Well, let me just go ahead and research this. You're going to effort that? Yeah, I'm going to effort this right now. He's going to effort that. We're going to

badge out while he efforts this. This is good because I'll make it. You know I'll make it out. I was just going to say this is actually somewhat easy to figure out because let's just look at Oregon alone this year. Oh, let's go to the conference. All right. Uh-oh. Some more vamping.

We got a fan. Yeah, this is all you love. Listen, I mean, this is this is. So they allowed five. There we go. Oregon allowed five this year. Five last. You're already halfway there.

There's 10. So the number may be 10 during his time at Oregon. I have a hard time believing he wasn't sacked more than that during his time. I mean, it's still close enough, Jonas. You got the number. 10, 10 at Oregon. But yeah, I... Fudged a little bit.

Liz, I would... Olu Fashano didn't give up any sacks, by the way. Olu? Olu. Fashano? He ain't given up nothing. Fashino. Planner fashionitis.

How are you saying that? Olu? I don't know. Olu ain't giving up nothing. Yes, he is. A whole lot of Oluon. A whole lot of Olu. That's why he's going to go top 10.

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Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Ryan, music. Back for round two. What's happening? Barely made it through round one, barely made it, but here we go, guys, round two. A lot of questions about what happened to the Eagles at the end of last season following their 10-1 start. The play of wide receiver A.J. Brown is one of them.

Here was Peter King this morning on WIP talking about how they might be looking to turn things around for next season. You have to ask yourself a legitimate question about A.J. Brown. I think it's really, really important question about AJ Brown. Okay, you saw that he had this incredible six-game run of 125 yards receiving or more. And then in the last, whatever it was, nine games of the season, he didn't have a single game with 125 yards. He was distracted. Yeah? What do you get that?

What do you get that? I'm not getting at anything. I get that anything. I mean, that's just an easy bridging of the gap, right? If you're not producing, you might be distracted. Oh, the pressure of the gap. I thought, oh, I wasn't going to say feeling. I wasn't going to say the filling of the gap, you know, if you dig what I'm saying. It ain't no fun.

The homies can't have. Yikes. Why don't we just make everybody happy here? Why don't we just do a Stefan Diggs for A.J. Brown trade. Let's just call. We'll just everybody go to their separate ways. Go have fun in Buffalo if you're A.J. Brown and Stefan Diggs. If you're Stefan Diggs, do you feel like you got the short end of the...

What do you mean? Did you get the short end of the stick on that one? Oh, that Jalen hurts Joe. Damn. Come on, man. It's just a question. Damn. I mean, you just got to put it out there.

I mean, this is talk radio. Oh, do you... Right? I mean, you got to put it out there. Do you believe that we will ever know what actually happened in Philadelphia this past year? If A.J. Brown is not a Philadelphia Eagle next year, we will actually know. This is not the Patriots. All right.

Like, this will eventually get out. Come on, we've got all sorts of storylines. We got, you know, Big Dom. Big Dom, all the stuff. Big Dom and. Why wasn't Big Dom able to smooth this one out, man? That's a great question. Maybe that's the problem.

All things should run through Big Dom. There you go. That's the answer. That's the answer we need. And all toys in the sandbox are communal. All right, here we go. Some new additions to the NFL's competition committee. Bring it on Rams head coach, Sean McVeigh,

Bill's head coach, Sean McDermott to fill two of the three voids left by Ron Rivera, Frank Reich and Mike Vrable All right, so we got some changes there All right, so a couple of Sean's digging over You got to be an active head coach To still be on the committee, I guess, huh? Yeah

I mean, although How time consuming is this? Because, like, is this a time consuming gig? Because Sean McVeigh just had a little one. I mean, I'd assume God bless him. He's a head coach of an NFL team, yeah.

Good for him. I don't have a lot of time anyway. Here's the good thing is you get an offensive defensive perspective, right? Which is always good to kind of counter one another. Two of the better coaches in the NFL. And I think this committee has more of an impact on the way we actually absorb the game, see the game, the way the game continues to grow.

And so to have two of the top coaches serve as part of it is huge in my mind. So I know, like, we hear competition committee, we're kind of like, what does that even mean? I'll say this much, like moving forward as far as least how the game is officiated, how we talk about player safety, those guys are two of the best to help kind of make sure and keep guiding it forward so the NFL can stay on top of all professional sports.

So there it is. That's the second installment of the Hurdline News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News. I mean, can one of them just do the right thing and make everything reviewable in the NFL? You know, do Bill Belichick a solid.

It could be a long-winded process, though. Oh, man, you know how long games would be, though? Like, if that were the case, that'd be sweet. Four hour. You want games to be longer? Yeah. What do I care? It's what we do for a living anyways.

I'm not worried about anybody else. I will say I like a good challenge. You know, I like a good instant replay, you know, deal. You know, because you get the guess on if you're right or if you're wrong. And sometimes it just doesn't seem like your being wrong was actually wrong. It should have been right. So, you know, I find out to be pretty cool part of the game. Plus you get here

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