The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Top 10 NBA head coaching jobs

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

He gives his top 10 NBA head coaching jobs across the league right now More thoughts on Caitlin Clark being left off the US Women's Team   Guest: Nick Wright See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dan Lannning, Oregon football coach, last hour. Nick Wright's around the corner. You know, J-Mack yesterday, we made a little prediction during the show that Dan Hurley would pass on the Lakers job. And in the NFL, it's a good job if you have a star quarterback. I mean, there's a lot of questions about the Chargers, right? They got Herbert, Harbaugh's like, I'll take that job. In baseball, Dodgers, Yankees, Braves, you've got a big salary.

You can pay for a lot of good players. We want Soto for a year. John Carlos Stanton and Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole. So in baseball, are you flush with cash? It's a good gig. In the NFL, do you have a star quarterback? It's a good gig. NBA's different.

NBA jobs are different. Do you not only have a star, but do you have the right star? It plays on both ends, easy to play with, committed, good guy. Do you have a good front office, or do you have crazy ownership? So I was saying this morning we were talking amongst ourselves, and I said this should be a topic. Oh, yeah. I'll give you the top 10 what I consider jobs. Everything considered.

Now, I'm going to consider your stars, your draft capital, the quality of the city, your ownership, everything. You've done a lot of lists since I joined the show. I have taken a sneak peek at this. This is your craziest list. I believe this is the wildest list you've ever done since I've joined the show. Okay, now remember, NFL is about quarterback. Baseball is about your financial wherewithal. You don't want to be with the A's.

No. I don't care. I don't care how nice everybody is. You want to be with the Yankees, Dodgers, maybe the Astros, Braves, right? You ready to go? Top 10 NBA coaching jobs. Yes, I am. All right, number one's the Celtics.

It's the best roster, great GM, committed owners. They know what they're doing with the draft picks. I mean, Brad Stevens is making the move. How did in the world that he make this roster? Nobody in the NBA's got a roster with this many good veteran players. That's a really good job. job. And the ownership, hands-off, great front office. Tatum's going to be under contract. Brown already is. That's the best job in the league. Secondly, Denver. I got Stan Cronkey, a hands-off

owner, richest NBA owner, first or second. I got the best player in the league who's never hurt, easy to play with. I got all my core under contract. Only Jamal Murray has a little bit of an injury history, supporting cast under contract. That's number two. Number three, the Mavericks. They have Luca. They're a surprisingly popular team in a football state. They're second in the NBA in attendance, flush with cash. They've got Luca and Rim protectors and a great young big that don't have to pay for years. That's a pretty good. That's a pretty good gig. I mean, Luca has one-man team this thing to the finals, mostly. Kyrie's had a lot of bad nights. Number four is Miami. I get a coach. had a couple of good draft picks in the last couple of years.

My core group, Jimmy, Bam, and Tyler Hero under contract, great general manager, very popular free agent market, no state tax. California's got 13.3%. Florida's got zero. Aqua water. In a winter league, it's the warmest place in America. That is a great gig. I wish they had one more star, but that's a great gig.

Number five, Minnesota. I get aunt. I'm sorry, but he'll be the face of the league by this time next year, potentially. They have a superstar player. They have a great general manager who built Denver left and then built a Minnesota team to beat Denver. They got a little bit of an ownership issue. That worries me. But I would put Minnesota there at five.

Number six, it's not a great market. Not everybody. You're going to struggle with free agents. But I'd say Oklahoma City. One of the youngest teams in the league, Chet Holmgren, Jalen Williams, Lou Dort, all under 26. You got SGA, Chet Hongren. You got growth.

They're only getting better. Tons of draft capital. One of the sharp young GMs in the sport, Sam Presti. Again, you're not going to outbid people a lot of times. It's like the Green Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers is a great job as a head coach. Is it the best job? Limitations on free agency?

Probably not. But it's a great job. OKC is the Green Bay Packers without the titles, in the NBA. It's a really good job. After that, I'd say the Knicks. James Dolan has removed himself over the last several years. He was building the music venue, the sphere in Vegas.

He removed himself. Competent front office. Great core of Villanova guys. Jalen Brunson's the best quarterback in the city. That includes the Jets and the Giants. Like the direction. Also, they're in the east. They're not in the west.

They're in the east. That matters. Boston, they can beat anybody. Eight, Milwaukee. They got Janus. High-end talent. Now, downside, oldest team in the league. So they got to make some moves and they don't have a lot of draft capital.

That's why it's only eight. Number nine, the Spurs. Okay, they got Wembe. I love that. They don't have anything else. And they've got, you know, let's be honest, older ownership group. There are multiple ways to build around Wembe. But right now, OKC's got draft capital and three or four really good young players.

They got Wembe and nothing else. And also, San Antonio's not the greatest free agent market. Guys tend to like to be in cities. And number 10, it's the Warriors. I still have Steph. They found the next play Thompson in the draft last year. NBA legends, excellent ownership, ownership willing to blow through the cap. Mike Dunleady, Jr., appears to be a competent general manager.

Those are your top 10. J. Mack is just beside himself. I have no comment at this time. I mean, Colin, come on. I assume Nick is watching and he's going to tear this to shreds as well. All right, let's go to Nick Wright. You guys are all banging on Oklahoma City. By the way, let me ask you, all you guys banging on Oklahoma City,

would you rather have the Jets' Giants' job of the Packers? Don't get too caught up in market size. What are we? I mean, I'm just talking about the fact that, Colin. Did you just say that the Warriors have the next Clay Thompson? You just threw that in as an aside?

I know you like pods. I know who you're talking about, buddy. I don't think the next Clay Thompson is on the board. I think he's a nice pick and a nice player. So I was so that was such an earthquake

of a take just thrown in there as an aside that it threw me off on the rest of it. I don't hate it seems like J. Mack hates this list. I don't hate the list. The problem is the Lakers not being on it to some, but if you go work for the Lakers, you work for a team that doesn't have real money

and a front office who has proven time and again that they are only elite at one thing, keeping their positions of power, and keeping their jobs. So I don't think the Lakers are a great job. And I think that the Lakers front office, Colin, made, in my opinion, two massive mistakes with each of their last two coaching higher transitions. And then they amazingly decided to make them both again this time.

So two coaches ago, they let everyone know Tileu's their number one choice. and then they don't get Tailu because they're cheap. And so when they end up getting Frank Vogel, that press conference is a little odd and awkward, as is the hire, because everyone knows he wasn't the top choice. They have now made that mistake again. Also, when they fired Frank Vogel,

Rob Belinka decided, I'm not going to explain it. I'm not going to hold a press conference, which made the press conference, when they hired Ham super awkward because there were a lot of hey why do you fire Frank Vogel questions well they made that mistake again too so when whomever they hire that opening press conference the number one questions are going to be about the guy they really wanted Danny Hurley and the number two questions are going to be like hey did you give Darwin Ham a fair shot meanwhile JJ Reddick's going to be sitting there just desperately

trying to explain a horn set to us and not get the opportunity. So I just, I don't think they're a well-run franchise, Colin, flatly. So I, you know, I've said this. I don't know where you've been on this. I forget. You've been critical of Boston through the years, but I did say, I predicted

Celtics and Sixth and Jalen Brown would be the MVP. And though he's not as aesthetically pleasing or as fluid as Jason Tatum, I think this series is once again a reminder that there is a certain aggressiveness alpha that is missing

from Tatum. He fills a box score. But your number one, Yokage, Aunt Michael, Kobe, Shaq, Barkley, you got to give me the closer. And when Jalen Brown, I was willing to look past some shooting woes. But when the Mavs drew

closer in game two, and they went to Jalen for that ceiling bucket, it's like, that was pretty clear. Like, I, this is the Tatum I think I've talked about that I think he's a soft one, but a great player?

Is this a revelation to you that Brown appears in the last two series to be better? And he talks more on the timeouts. He's the leader. So, leader maybe, I don't, I'm not comfortable saying over the totality of a season. Like if all the Celtics were free agents and you could add any one of them, I think basically all 30 GMs would pick Tatum before Brown. Yeah. Because of the talent, because of the size, he is a touch younger. But we now, Colin, for guys, this is Tatum just finished his eighth career NBA finals game. He has the worst field goal percentage in finals history, the worst of any player who's taken as many shots as he has.

I also, I was there Sunday night in Boston right behind the Mabbs bench. He looked unsure of himself, uncertain. and nervous from the opening tip. That to me, and even Celtic fans who were giving me hell for picking the Mavs in five, which, you know, I must say it doesn't look like it's going to happen because they've already lost twice. They weren't defending Tatum, and it is a testament to the roster that Brad Stevens has built, the Derek White Trade, Christap's Trade, and then Drew Holiday Trade, that they are,

we are in the midst of Jason Tatum playing some of the worst. offensive basketball of his season and the Celtics are up to O. There is a lot of, not really stylistically, but as far as egalitarian basketball similarities to the O4 Pistons. Now, the 04 Pistons were a historic defense, and this is a very good defense, not a historic defense, but where you don't know, is it going to be Chauncey, is it going to be Rip, is it going to be Sheed, is it going to be Tashon? You don't know where the offense is coming from. from, you just have an excellent five-man starting rotation. But I think that Jason Tatum has to take something of a hit in these finals because, and I heard

him after the game saying, oh, I'm not going to let my ego get in the way of it. And I appreciate his demeanor. But Jason Tatum took more shots in that game than Luke Adanjich did. Jason Tatum took 22 shots and the next highest Celtic was 15. It's not like, oh, I don't have it going. I'm just going to defer. He was trying to get it going and couldn't, and he looked very uneasy in the moment. For honestly, that's seven out of eight finals games in his career where he's looked kind of unsure of what he wants to do.

So Caitlin Clark's interesting. I've made it clear. I think she should make the team. But I said, we're all a little morally flexible. I am. We're all hypocrites. Every politician's a hypocrite. You sign a bill that you don't believe in, but you're trying to get it on another.

You know, we all know the game. Sure. But there is a certain hypocrisy with the WNBA. For years, they complained about second-class travel. Nobody's paying attention to us, and why don't we make more money? So Caitlin Clark's already solved the attention thing, has helped briefly with the travel. We know at the end of Olympic rosters, it gets subjective and political. But if you're going to complain, if my son complained,

He's not there yet, but at 25, he complained, Dad, I don't get any good job offers. And then he did, and he said, well, I don't like the hours. I'd say timeout. I heard you complain about that. A lot of what they complained about was attention, travel, and salaries. And, like, even Mahomes doesn't get everything. Tyreek Hill has to go.

Brady took pay cuts. Like, I don't think squeezing Caitlin into the Olympic team is giving up a lot for what. what she provides, is it? So, well, so this is to me, I very rarely feel, I think going both sides on things is typically a cop-out. I think this is a rare instance where I think there is a credible argument on each side of the equation.

The credible argument on her not being on the team is a very simple one. As from a merit perspective, she's not one of the 12 best. That is not a long argument. It is a simple argument. If we want to put our 12 best out there, she's not there yet. But it is not as simple as that because if we are being fair, from a merit perspective, Diana Tarazi is no longer one of the 12 best, and she has a roster spot. Now, we can say that's leadership, and we can also say, I think, correctly, she's earned it.

She is maybe the greatest women's player of all time that you want to put her in another Olympic. she has identical, same points, rebounds, field goal percentages. Caitlin this year. Caitlin turns it over way more but also has way more assists. Their seasons, you put them side by side, it's jarring how similar they are, and you put Diana on, in my opinion, for non-basketball reasons to a degree. You could do the same for Caitlin. Where I am not as worked up as seemingly everyone else is, I actually don't think

it was going to, I don't think the eyeballs drawn was going to be so much different with or without Caitlin Clark on the roster, because even if she were on the roster, she would not be playing a ton. And where I do think there is some pushback from people who have been longstanding fans or members of the WNBA is, are people more interested in the WMBA right now than they were? or are they exclusively and solely interested in Caitlin Clark? Is there an effect of our sport is getting more coverage? Or is it something, I'm going to mix metaphors here, of, well, look at how many more people care about the NFL thanks to Taylor Swift.

Well, okay, but are they exclusively interested in the Chiefs and Travis Kelsey, or all of a sudden do they have Brock Purdy takes? I don't know. And I don't even know if that necessarily matters. But I don't think that Caitlin Clark topic is cut and dry in either direction when it comes to the Olympic game. Here is my concern, though, Colin, because we're already seeing it. You have Nikki Haley, who might end up being the next vice president for all I know, sending out a tweet, talking a base, almost demanding an investigation into why she's not on the roster.

I think someone is going to at a White House press conference, say, does President Biden have a comment on the Caitlin Clark snub? I think this is going to jump over into the political realm because this is so ripe for the culture war craven cretans that just want to, at its core, make this be all this little white girl's getting picked on in a black league. and it's going to become really gross in ways that Caitlin does not deserve and did not ask for. I also think from a basketball perspective quickly, I actually think this is really good for Caitlin Clark. And I think the fever in a 12-team league, eight make the playoffs. You don't have to have a great record. Could this month off, plus the fact that the schedule softens,

they have no more back-to-backs, lead to Caitlin Clark being excellent late in the season, and this team sneaking into the WMBA playoffs, which would be far better for the league than her having a few cameos in the Olympics? I think so, and I actually think that's where this is going to go. Finally, I thought you'd be struck with the irony in this. Aaron Rogers made a point. He used pro- This is unbelievable. This is unbelievable.

Prophanity! When he said any of this blankety-blank non-football stuff, get it out of the business. get it out of the building. Yeah, mini-camp starts. He's not in the building. He's at a non-football event. It was an unexcused absence. Are you struck with the irony of that?

I mean, this is why. So here's the thing. People get very mad at me because they say, when you talk Jets, when you talk Rogers, I know you don't like some of his stances or you don't agree with them on certain things, but make it about football. You always talk about the other stuff. And my answer is because with this iteration of Aaron Rogers,

the other stuff is inextricably tied to the football to the point to where he double-booked mandatory minicamp. Yeah. That's what he did. Double-booked. Oh, gosh, darn. I knew there was something June 11th. Oh, what was it?

First day of mandatory minicamp. Going to have to miss one. Well, I guess I'm going to miss the football. And it is so, you said all of us have a little bit of hypocrisy to us. This is five standard deviations passed what normal people will be okay with from a hypocritical perspective. And the fact that the Jets, I guess give them credit, finally for the first time are standing up for themselves at all with Aaron, saying no, it's not an excused absence. It is an unexcused absence. And I find it galling.

And it would not be considered. And normally I would want to say, well, we don't know the circumstance. Like if somebody was just missing and it was last minute, things happen. People give birth. Someone's in a hospital. I get that. That's clearly not what this is. There were two events being held on June 11th, both of which Aaron Rogers felt the need to attend.

he chose this other one over the Jets mandatory minicamp. And to do that two weeks after, you talked about how you wouldn't be playing if you'd anything you could win the Super Bowl and be league MVP. And three months after, you lectured the whole organization for not having its priorities right for all of it. It's just so disingenuous. It is just so wildly disingenuous and do as I say, not as I do. and I don't know how anyone can think it's going to get better from here for the Jets.

Yeah. I don't, everyone tried to just pretend the fact that he openly considered running for vice president as well, since he's not doing it, there's nothing to worry about now. The fact that that was on the board told you all you needed to know about his level of commitment to this football team at this point in his career. I think it's absolutely pitch perfect that he can't be bothered to attend mini-camp. It's just perfect. One of his better appearances.

You know, you straddled the fence on the Olympic thing, but not really. I mean, you had a – I didn't straddle the fence. Sometimes there's – listen, here's who I think's wrong, Colin. And you might – I'm not sure if you fall into this category, so I apologize if you do. Anyone that has come out and said that it is a travesty, she's not on the team. or anyone that has come out and said, there is no reason at all for her to be on the team. I think there is a legitimate argument on both sides of it.

I just think the Caitlin Clark discourse has gotten so toxic, so quickly, that people don't really know how to have the conversation. So I just give, like you said, what are you, America's honesty broker? Yeah, yeah. So I'm what am I? America's honesty broker's nephew. I'm just trying to carry on that legacy. Yeah, I said the WNBA is the cake of women's basketball.

The Olympics is the icing. All cakes are a little better with icing, but it's not, I'll still eat the cake. It's still edible. I'm fine. A cup of coffee, you dip the un-ice cake in. It's fine. It's edible. It's better than vegetables.

Yeah, so, yeah, there's good. All right, I think we've run our course here. We've exhausted this segment. Goodbye. Nick Wright. Good stuff. Dan landing an hour from now, the Oregon football coach. That's good.

That's good. JMAQ is with wonderment watching. It's almost like a broadcasting class between Nick out with these very smart, long takes. I thought his weakness there was not really going in on the OKC head coaching job. How that's so more coveted than the Lakers because they have a bunch of future draft picks. That is comical. They have two young ascending stars. You know what happened to the other stars?

And a great GM. You know the other stars who were there? Yeah. They traded James Hardin. Kevin Durant said, get me the hell. out of here. They ended up Westbrook left, Paul George left. Nobody stays at OKC. So good luck taking that job.

Harden, zero titles. Westbrook Playoff Success, laughable. KD, how's that working? He's got two titles. He's the greatest player in their franchise is history. I mean, you can say what you want. We'll see if SGA sticks around. Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't. I don't know. He's Canadian. He's Canadian. They are friendly.

Canadians are, I know Steve Nash. He's Canadian. Very nice. A? Is that he said A? Yeah. I think SGA could stay You know, you in these cities. I'm a coastal elite now. You really are a coastal elitist. OKC is not, they got the brickyard, they got... Isn't that basically referred to as the Dust Bowl?

Like, the biggest deal in OKC is they've got a haunted hotel? Do you know how much money is in OKC? A lot? I don't know. That's like an energy hub. Cool. Yeah. They go either way.

Watch their games. You can't get a seat. They're packed. They are. It's a vibe there that the games. Even in the losses, you know. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'll be honest with you.

If I'm an NBA star, I'm not a night on the town guy. I would argue New York and L.A. can get young guys in trouble. I think everybody in the NBA is a night on the town guy. No, I don't believe that. In your 20s? I don't believe that. You're ridiculously wealthy. Jalen Brunson is all basketball.

Those Villanova guys go to bed at eight on off nights. I heard Josh Hart gets after it after hours. Oh, boy. What's get after it? You know, single, good-looking. It likes to be in joy life.

Single, well, you can't enjoy life in, uh, okay, see? Yeah. I think Appleby's last calls 945.

Oh, God, you're the worst. Josh Hart gets after it. Game film. Yeah. That's what he gets after. You and your big city stuff.

I live in L.A. I mean, last night, I'm sitting there watching, you know. What were you watching? Tell, I was watching the Stanley Cup.

Oh. Yeah, right. I was. You're watching hockey last day? I was expecting some British sitcom or something. No, I don't talk it, but I watch it. Want more herd?

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Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. That was probably too harsh on O'KC. I'll be nice to the rest of the show. I'm a nice guy. You know, the Midwest. It's your favorite part of the country. There's some real gems there.

Chicago's, I'm going to Chicago this weekend. I was thinking about going to a Cubs game. I'm going to go on a boat instead. Oh, it's a big boat weekend in Chicago. It's not just, Judge. Thanks for the invite, buddy. Hey, we've got, every time I even mention that city, you appear to be terrified of going and having a good thing.

time in America. You know, a guy just voted like seven straight time like America's best city. What, Chicago? Yeah. Get out. No way. Yeah. By who? Your family? Number one, yes. Number two, by people who travel a lot and have a sophisticated understanding of... I will try my best to get there

this summer. By the way, is Nashville the Midwest or no? South. They say y'all. I like Nashville a lot. Anyway, so let's go to the NFL. Cincinnati Bengals. They're back in the the news. Jamar Chase showed up at Bengals mandatory minicap this week. However, T. Higgins is still absent, continues to hold out for a new deal after he got franchise tagged in the offseason.

Because Higgins hasn't signed the tag yet, he's not currently under contract. It can't be fine. So he's getting an extra vacation, T. Higgins. Really nice. He should enjoy it because feels like this is his last go-round in Cincinnati, right? Yeah, I mean, we're getting into a territory where everybody wants to get paid a year early. and I'm not down with it. You're not? No, I'm not down with you getting paid a year early. Why not?

Contract ends, you get paid. Quarterback or maybe an unbelievable edge rusher. Like quarterback, I, you know, listen, you knew Justin Herbert pretty quickly was the guy or Joe Burrow. Get them signed in, maybe get a little bit of break down the road. Or you get one of these once every two-year pass rushers like Aidan Hutchison. They just don't make a lot of those. You know, there's, but wide receivers, running backs, a lot of skill. Come on.

I'm not paying these guys early. I know what kind of guy you are then. I guess it says a lot. You want to side with management? I'm going to side with the billionaires. I'm going to side with the little man, the lowly wide receiver who wants to get that cash. You're a paradox. You like the employees, but hate the Midwest.

You're a coastal elite, but you want to pay the little guy. I side with billionaires, but embrace the heartland. shows a total paradigm. In all honesty, there's zero chance the Bengals can afford both these guys and Burrough. It's just not happening, even with the cap going up. You can't. It's not going to happen. You can't pay your quarterback and two receivers all your money. No, I mean, the Miami Dolphers are trying that, and their quarterback has not been paid yet.

Yeah, you can't do it. Yeah, it's not going to work. Next up, Deshawn Watson entering his third year with the Browns, kind of gone by fast, since he was traded from the Texans. So Watson's tenure in Cleveland has been, I think most would characterize it as a disappointment. In an appearance on the Rich Eisen Show, Coach Kevin Stefansky expects the best version of his quarterback. We always talk about we want the best version of ourselves. And I want the best version of Deshaal. And he's constantly getting better.

He wants to be better. He wants to play better every single game, every single year. I'm excited for where he is right this minute with plenty of work to do. and I know he's going to continue to get better and get healthy, but I'm excited about to show. I just thought of a segment for tomorrow. Does it have to do with the Browns or not? What are the four positions in the NFL that matter most?

Quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher, weapon. Corner would be my fifth or sixth. I think they're overvalued. Okay. A lot of great corners on bad teams. Quarterback, edge rusher, left tackle, weapon. Well, I would say coach over weapon, but, you know, we just play here. All right, that's good. So let's do a top five.

Okay. Quarterback coach, left tackle edge weapon. Who are the best teams in the league? And you rank them. And my problem is, I love Cleveland's coach. I love their edge rusher. I really like their weapons. It's that quarterback thing.

I mean, if you start looking at, they rank very highly in the stuff that matters to me. I think Stefanski's brilliant. I think Miles Garrett's the best pass rusher in football They don't have a dominant one receiver But I like their receivers a lot I don't know if our guys have the Brown schedule But I'm looking at it they open with Dallas at home I think that is a very winnable game for the Browns

That's a, by the way That's a good week one That is a fascinating game Between Cleveland's tire fire Of an organization The Cowboys are jammed up against the cap Didn't do anything It's a DAC dependent team

That is a group. That is a, it's not a Super Bowl preview, but it's a good, all both those teams have all sorts of stuff. They're both fringe contenders, right? And they're both a little messy right now. So Browns go Dallas, then at Jacksonville, that's winnable. I mean, I don't know that they're a heavy favorites or anything. Then the Giants, then the Raiders, then Washington. So there's a world where the Browns, if they can steal that Dallas game, you're looking at potentially 5'0 to start the season. Now, I don't think we think they're like a 5-0 caliber.

team? No. The Dallas game is really an interesting one. You don't always have to have two Super Bowl teams to be interesting. I can't wait for the Bears opener. I think they got Tennessee. I don't know that. I mean, I can't wait to watch the Bears open. The back end of the Brown schedule is difficult. Very challenging.

AFC. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, yeah. Good lot. And they close with Baltimore. So, Browns need to get a hot start. I can't tell if they're a by team yet. No. You just are out on Watson. I'm out. Final story is the NBA where the Golden State Warriors tough off season ahead after being a total disaster.

Cowhart thought they would be very good. They were not. Remember that? Remember that? That was fun. There are reports this week that Kavan Looney could be cut. Andrew Wiggins could be traded.

However, Draymond Green believes there's still a window for a title in Golden State. I just think there are some decisions that have to be made for us and I trust and know that our front of all.

and our coach staff will make the right decisions, but I think we still got a small window to make something happen. And, you know, I know this organization will honor Steph and myself. And Clay, I know they'll honor us in that way of giving us every chance they can to help us win. You know, he said they've got to make some big decisions, as in Clay Thompson. He then mentioned Clay. Andrew Wiggins. Andrew Wiggins, they got to move.

No question. Well, good luck, selling low on Andrew Wiggins. What's his contract? Is it expiring? I don't know. What's his contract? There's not like a big market for him. Although in the right setting he could work.

He's just falling off so much from two years ago. He feels like the first guy off the bench or your fifth starter. But like a really, really good, I mean like, by the way, if you put him on, let's just sit on team, you threw him on Denver. If they figured out KCP left, you put him on Denver. You'd be like, oh, yeah. He would be in a game in the finals, like he would end up with 22 points and make key plays. Yeah, yeah. He would be like your fifth guy.

If he's like your foot or fifth guy. So Wiggins has two more years in his deal, a player option. So, you know, you've got to find somebody that I think a team, I think Wiggins as a number four starter is attractive. I mean, go look at Porzingas, had injury history, was considered a bad locker room guy. Look at the value Porzingis gives the Celtics. Can Wiggins be you're like really super talented four?

By the way, he's not a bad guy like, if you could afford him with Luca, Kyrie, and Wiggins. Because if Kyrie's off, who's your second score? So Wiggins has value in this league. I think he's run his course with a warrior. So like a Derek White with the Celtics, it's just a perfect fit. You're not expecting much.

And guess what? When you don't expect a lot because there's no pressure, he can deliver. That's a great comp. Like a Derek White. He's not as good a defender right now as Derek was. He's not. But he has knights. Andrew has knights offensive.

This is going to sound crazy. But if you're Minnesota and you just watch Dallas run circles around you. I know you don't want to bring back Wiggins. Remember, they drafted him. Warriors finally get a big Carl Anthony Towns.

You get Wiggins and some size back Looney, although Looney doesn't score. They would need an offense. It felt like Minnesota was a wing short in that series. They just couldn't defend Luka. How about this? How about this one? No, I'm not going to do it. Sixers?

I'm not going to get into it. I thought of a Minnesota move. I thought if you gave me pods and Wiggins, and I got Carl Anthony Towns, but the Warriors don't want to give up pods. They don't want to give up kids. We're acting like pods is like potential. Over under half an all-star appearance for pods in the next five years.

He'll make an all-star game. No way. All right. Maybe in the West he won't. No, I'm crazy. All-Star game? I like the way he runs around. Come on.

You like him, but not Zach Levine. Yeah. By the way, Zach Levine and I, we're going to be buddies pretty soon here if things continue to fall in line for me at the gym with the hoopers. I'm a Zach Levine fan, dude.

He is. You're the one. You're the one. All right, Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Pods or Zach Levine, that's a showstopper.

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To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed. That's correct. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the inaugural United Football League Championship. As the Birmingham Stallions take on the San Antonio Bronzo. It all kicks off Sunday at 5 Eastern on Fox. Speaking of football, Aaron Rogers, who lectured teammates, he said any of this blank-dy-blank stuff around this team that's non-football's got to be done.

No more non-football stuff. Ironically, Aaron Rogers is not at minicamp today. Fanboys for the Jets. You know you're wrong. Stop arguing on the interweb. you can't lecture people on commitment to football and then not be here. He made a decision today knowing it was to start a minicam to not show up. Sorry, you lost this one.

Here's Robert Sala, his head coach. Aaron and I spoke before OTA started. He's been very good in communication. He's been here the entire time. It's inexcused, but he had an event that was very important to him, which he communicated. Okay. I thought this was interesting.

So the fiscal year is apparently over for the NFL. The top 50 NFL player sales list. Who sold the most jerseys? Well, you would figure, you know, cowboy quarterback's got to be way up there. Oh, it's 20th. Dak Prescott's 20th. He gets beat by an Eagles receipts.

in an eagle center. Well, Colin, everybody's got Dax jersey. Well, I've got to be honest. Everybody's got Mahomes jersey. He's at three. Everybody's got Josh Allen's. He's at 11. Everybody's got Tua's in Miami.

He's 15. Tom Brady's last two years in New England, I assure you, everybody in the New England region had the Brady jersey 20 years. His last two years in the league, it was a number one seller. In his final year, it was number two to Mahomes. Dax's at 20th.

And what does it tell you? It tells you that even cowboy fans. C.D. Lamb and Micah, a linebacker and a receiver, are significantly ahead of Dack. It's telling you that cowboy fans, maybe privately, maybe publicly, are telling you, yet we've seen how this movie ends. Brock Purdy is a quiet, not flashy, seventh round pick, no national, and I imagine no local commercials is ahead, is ahead of deck. And that team star-studded.

So unless you're somebody that makes a lot of money, you probably already have a Debo, a Kittle, a McCaffrey. I mean, there's a lot of stars on that team. You're about number six on that team, the star power list. Got a Bosa, got a Brandon Ayyuk. And Purdy, Brock Purdy, a seventh-rounder, non-flashy-flashy-plashy- fire. Six-seventh biggest star on the team is a head attack. There's something people can say all they want in the internet. What do you watch and what do you buy? I don't want to hear about my

loyalty. What do you watch and what do you buy? You ain't buying those Dak jerseys in Dallas. Dak this week talked about waiting for a new deal. This is the urgency you should always have to be honest. So maybe guys who normally wouldn't fill it, fill it. So I don't mind it. I've been in this position before. I'm a gambling man. We'll gamble on myself and my guys. So not actually, guys. I understand. There's been a lot of s' with that. Not that way. Just a hot. Aaron Rogers didn't play. And he's ahead of deck. What do you buy? What do you watch? What do you listen to? And don't tell me who you like and don't like. Your consumption is the truth.

Yeah, actions over words, right? But I have a question, year-end. What does that mean? The calendar year or football season? Before the season starts, beginning of the season to now, what were the sale? That explains Rogers, right? Everybody was excited. He goes to the Jets.

They wanted to buy his jersey today. Travis Kelsey just went to the Super Bowl, which is a hard one. I mean, that's, you know, Kelsey, Taylor Swift, Travis. That's an odd. That's an outlier. But it's something. Again. Something.

Acton's louder than words. 20th. I mean, if you're a Niner fan, and let's say you buy three jerseys, you wouldn't buy purdy. Three jerse? Well, I'm saying some guys have multiple jerseys. You probably have a kiddle. You have a McCaffrey.

You got a Debo. At best, he's your four. How many NFL jersees you got? Don't have any. I don't have any. But I am not judging those who do. You know, we got one as a gift to Joe. name of jersey. Never worn it.

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