The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Top 10 QB - HC combos

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

Colin shares his top 10 quarterback - head coach combos in the NFL before training camp begins. He also welcomes Bills LT Dion Dawkins in studio to talk about the expectations for Buffalo this season and how they'll replace Stefon DiggsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're getting close. Seven of the last. 10. Super Bowl champs have been AFC. Last year, AFC versus NFC. AFC won 46 and lost 34. The NFL choosing its first game of the season chose the Chiefs and the Ravens, AFC. So it does feel like here at Fox, we primarily have NFC.

It feels like it is tilted toward an AFC sport over the last five or six years. A lot of that is the best. bad teams had high draft picks and a lot of them hit on quarterbacks. Houston, Cincinnati with Burrow, you know, Kansas City wasn't a bad team. Alex Smith got them to the playoffs. But you have a lot of AFC teams that were bad or took a swing on a quarterback and they all hit. Jacksonville, Justin Herbert to the Chargers, who now has Jim Harbaugh, Trevor Lawrence. C.J. Stroud was surprisingly good right out of the shoot.

So in the NFC, for years and years, didn't have. a real bottom. You know, you'd have Washington underachieving lions for years and years, but AFC just, they've hitting a lot of quarterbacks. And this is a coach quarterback league. If you have the coach and the quarterback, you can have flaws everywhere.

As long as you're not horrific on the offensive line and your quarterback's not under siege on most snaps. And so I think I do feel like the NFC is drawing closer to the AFC in the coaching quarterback

combination, but it's still AFC over NFC. My top 10, if I gave you a top 10, AFC, NFC quarterback combination, the first one's an easy one. That's Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes, highest win percentage by any quarterback coach combo in the Super Bowl era. That's an easy one. He's the great play designer, a clever play caller, and Mahomes right now is the most gifted quarterback potentially ever,

but certainly playing right now. At number two, I'd go McVeigh and Matt Stafford. I think Matt Stafford, because of his years in Detroit, was overlooked. Next to Mahalms, maybe the best arm talent in the league. Sidearm does everything but throw it left-handed, big over-the-top arm. I think McVeigh may be the smartest coach, period, in the sport. I'd put him at two. I'd go John Harbonne-Lamar Jackson three.

Bottom line is they've won 10-plus games and reached the playoffs in five of six years. Listen, Lamar is different and you're going to have a different offense with him. But if you can win 75% of your games, especially in the AFC North, to be that good perpetually, I'd put them third. I'd put Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert fourth. Now, a little bit of that is a projection. I think Herbert's a remarkable talent. And there's an argument to be made, college and pro. Jim Harbaugh is the best coach on the planet.

So I would put them fourth in the coach quarterback combo. put Sean McDermott, Josh Allen, 5th. And I think we all know Josh is probably even more so than Mahomes just physically on a different planet. Size, speed, arm strength. There's just nothing like Josh Allen in the world, including Mahomes. I think the misgivings we have sometimes defensive coaches in big playoff games against offensive coaches we worry about. But they've got four straight division titles. They're obviously a very good football organization. So I would say for the top five are AFC. Okay, so that right off the top, once again, it's the AFC.

You can argue about the order after Reed and Mahom, certainly. I would go to the next five, and I start with another AFC team, Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. Now listen, Bengals have reached at least the AFC championship in any year Joe Burroughs been healthy. Now, I do believe he is one injury away from real adult conversations on looking to draft another quarterback at some point, maybe not a first round pick.

But now this is his first year without offensive coordinator Brian Callahan, who's the Titans head coach. So that'll be a little interesting. Then starting at number seven, I feel like the NFC teams are on the come. Matt Lefleur, Jordan Love would be number seven. I'd like to see a little bit more of Jordan Love, but the last year the kid was on fire. And I'll give Matt LaFleur a lot of credit.

When Aaron Rogers was there, I felt like it was Aaron's offense. and Aaron's team. I thought last year Matt Lafleur could really flex. I thought he was really clever. I loved his game plans. I loved his alterations at half. I thought Matt Lafleur really established

himself as a top five, six coach in the league. Number eight, Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott. Listen, they've won 12 games each of the last three seasons. Nobody else in the league has done that. McCarthy's a good, solid coach. You can argue they're both B-plus. But that gives you number eight in the NFL.

We just, we want more in January. Number nine, I'd probably go Tua and Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel's sort of Kyle Shanahan West. Very clever. When Tua's healthy, there's an argument, this is the breeze Sean Payton relationship. Two is accurate. Do I think he can go up in cold weather to Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City, Cincinnati.

If it's 13 degrees in windy, do I think he can go toe to toe with a Mahomes or a Josh Allen? No, I do not. But you don't have to play those guys much. Cross your fingers. The weather goes your way. Number 10, I'd do Jared Goff and Dan Campbell. I think Dan Campbell, in my opinion, can be a little bit too much led by emotion sometimes. I don't love all of Dan Campbell's situational coaching.

Highly emotional guy. I wish he was a bit more restrained. But I've been saying this about Jared Goff for years. Throws one of the prettiest balls in the league. The Lions have winning records in back-to-back years. If I had to go 11, I'd go. Shanahan and Brock Purdy. So I could say the bottom

6 through 11, there's a lot more NFC representation. But I still think by and large, the AFC at the top, six of the top 10 quarterback coaching combinations. We're not going to argue with Reed and Mahomes. Everything after that you can argue about.

And with that, Dionne Dawkins, three Pro Bowls, highest-grated Buffalo Bill offensive linemen every year he's been there. there seven seasons all with the bills in buffalo six-time playoff reformer good to see you again my friend nice to have you in you know it's interesting because i always said this about phil mickleson because he played in the era of tiger woods you just don't understand how good phil mickleson it's the same with akeem elageo on if there's no michael jordan he can have four

titles i saw him go to toe to chack and at times really give shack a problem so you guys are just happened to be in the era of Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed. You feel like sometimes you want to say, hey, everybody, we're winning like 10 games a year. We're good over here that you sometimes get criticized because you're just not beating it maybe the best coach quarterback combination in the history of the sport. I think in the era that we're in now, you know, like there's a lot of great players all over this league. You know, it's an offensive league now.

It's a passing league, it's an offensive league, it's a quarterback-driven league, and I think there's a lot of great players all around. You know, like, yes, we are thankful to be playing in the time that we're playing because we're playing with somebody's guys that are putting up numbers that we haven't seen. And the money's good. And the money is great. The money is great when it's great. And then it changes, and then it's great, and then it changes, and it's great.

And it's great. You know, so, yeah. Yeah. So my take on Stefan Diggs was, it was time. loved him. I said this about Clay Thompson. It's time. It's pro sports.

There's salary caps. And I also think Keon Campbell's great. And I also think by getting the kid out of Utah, the tied end with Dawson Knox, Cook, Josh, I think you're fine. I don't think that's going to be the issue. I think you'll be fine. There was a lot made about the drama. I like Stefan, but I did think it got verbal. You'd see some stuff where, like, he was unhappy.

When you heard, he was moving on. What was your take? It was okay. No, it was, it was more so like, like more so just, just a deep breath. It was like, it was just like, all right, you know, like, Steph was a great teammate. Like, Steph is probably like one of the best teammates that, that I've had, you know, like, seeing how he prepares for a game, how he treats his teammates, how he executes his passion. And I think what the world mistakes of what they're calling drama is just the passion that he has for. for the sport. Like, I don't expect anybody to be happy with losing. Like, and we're all,

not frantic, but, like, we're all at that height of emotions. Like, it's an emotional sport. And Steph is an emotional guy for the things that he loves, and football is one of those things. And I think, like, like, we're going to miss them. We love them. And if it was time, and Brandon Bean has all those keys. Like, we don't control any of that. You know, I was sad to see him go, but I'm happy to see him smile. And, you know, he's smiling and he'll be a great player wherever, and he goes.

And I'm just glad that, you know, like, we got to take a shot at it with Steph. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. Deion Dawkins, Bill's offensive lineman, best, highest-graded linemen Buffalo's had all years. He's been there. For years, I said,

I criticized Sean McDermott. I said, Sean McVeigh rebuilt his O-Line in one year. I watched Andy Reid do it in one year. I'm like, outside of the Dawkins guy, I need that offensive line and that run game to be better. And now you've got Cook. Was it a fair criticism?

Guys like me saying, I'm watching these offensive coaches fix that thing fast. It did feel like it took him about five. Now, I do feel last year you guys passed protection was excellent. Yes. Excellent. In fact, there's a stat here. You allow the few of sacks in the league. And I did think you found your running back.

Right. He's an A. For sure. Was the criticism fair for years that, can we give Josh a little help up front with the run game? Was that a fair criticism? Yeah. I mean, it's always fair because we've had so many changes. Every single year we've had so many changes.

And like I tell people when I talk about it is I play left and left tackle and I'm blessed. I'm good at what I do. And I've had a different guard every single year since I've been in the NFL. I've been in the league for eight years. and I've had a different guard every single year that I have been in the league. We've had a center that just went to the Jaguars, which is Mitch, but he's been there. And then our right guard and our right tackle has switched off and on. So we've had a different piece of movements ever since we've got there.

And I honestly want to tip my hat to Josh because he's been scrambling and doing his thing with the group that, you know, finds the brotherhood during camp and OTAs and to get the season done. And last year, like, we were fully healthy the entire year. And I'm thankful for it. I want you to tell our audience this because they may not understand this

that I've said before, like the Jets were a great example. You got old guys, you got a rookie, you got new guys. In the preseason, the old guys don't take snaps anymore during games. So forget that. That Jets old, they're going to be as good as their own line. I don't care about the defense. I don't care about Aaron. There's a lot of stuff.

They've got a lot of movement. I like Tyrone Smith. Going to give you about 14 games. I like the rookie. He's never taken an NFL snap. It's a whole different ball game than college. So tell the people about the relationship and a new guard. Because I think the fans just say, hey, you're on an island out there.

Just protect the quarterback. Right. Why it matters to have a new guard. Why is that symmetry so important? Yeah, because, like, and I really appreciate that. because a lot of people don't know. But like when you're playing guard, and I don't know because I don't play guard,

but when you're playing guard, the guard controls the, I guess, forward and back of the pocket. If the pocket is getting pushed back, vertically back, that means that the guards are not doing what they're supposed to do, which is holding the line. The tackles are supposed to keep the width. We're supposed to keep everything away while the guards keep everything forward.

So over time, like, you know, like the quarterback sees, like, okay, this guy is a little bit less stronger than this guy. I know if we're playing against a heavier or lighter or faster line, I know that I could just step to my right just a little bit to get this pass off. Or I know, you know, Dion is going to keep this guy as wide as possible. So if I need to drift, I need the drift, I could drift to my left and to get the ball out. So the guards that shift in and out, it takes reps, reps over reps, over reps, during camp, during OTAs, during live reps for the quarterback to actually understand what type of player he has. And then with seeing us in front of different type of competition, like we got guys like on the Chiefs, like Jones, right? Like we know that, all right, Jones is one of those guys. Like we have to, Josh knows that I can be over here just a half a second more than this.

and I know that Dion is going to do this or chop a guy down or Spencer is going to do that. So the quarterback knows where he can puzzle his passes. And Josh has had to guess a lot. Yeah. And Josh has had to do what Josh does. And he's been guessing, but not really guessing, but trying to figure out who his guys really are over a duration of a season. Because it takes the full season to really understand. I always feel like it's an advantage to be a really good offensive lineman in division games.

Yeah. because most pass rushers, even the good ones, either have a tell or two moves. Right. And so when you play a guy twice, the advantage is to you, not to him. For sure. Right? And I've always... You know some.

Is that right? That's for sure. Division games are an advantage to the offensive lineman. Yeah. It is a full advantage, but if you take it as, oh, I got his card, then it could mess you up. But yes, like when you play the same guy over and... and over and over, you kind of know exactly who he is.

So tell me a good guy that's out. You don't have to play him anymore. Maybe he retired. Retired guy? But a guy that you knew, you played enough that you kind of knew you had a sense of what he was. Rookies, you're just better then.

Right. I don't worry about rookies. But I'm talking about a guy that you played, or maybe he's in the NFC now, that you had some success. Maybe like a guy like Robert Quinn. Right? Like a guy like Robert Quinn.

Good player. Like a great player. But once you, play him over and over, like, he was with the Dolphins when I was really young. Yeah. And he was really good at that jump, chop move. And, you know, over repetition, you could kind of time it and figure it out, almost like a boxing match.

Sure, sure. But, like, you're just jabbing and jabbing and jabbing at it. And you can time what he's going to do. And that's where the benefit was to a younger player, because you play him once, and you're like, all right, you already know what this older vet is going to give you every single play. And it kind of is definitely to our advantage. Have there been players that have surprised you on the edge? Oh, yeah. And you're like, oh, boy.

Yeah. Have you ever had a game when you feel like you're bailing water for a quarter? Yeah. Like bailing water, look, I am very confident in my game as of right now. I think, and I know that I'm, if not the best left tackle, I'm the best left tackle in the NFL. and my favorite player that I play against is Trey from the Bengals. Trey Henderson. He is one of the best players that I think just mentally, physically, and just what he does on the football field. What is it? What is it?

He comes out there and he plays with no gloves on. That's a little Max Crosby Field. That is, that is, exactly. That is one of those weird tales that when you come out on the football field and you see a player and you're looking at him on Snap 1, you're like, all right, his helmet is tied up. He has his shoes. All right.

Swag check. Okay. Let's see what type of player is. And then you look at his hands and his hands he has no gloves on. And for a player that plays and with his hands all game, like that means that you're just a little, a little bit like, all right, he's a real football player. And then he comes and he hits you every single play. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Every rep, every play, he's coming at you.

And that tells you that you have to be on your P's and Q's no matter what. But and Miles Garrett. Like Miles Garrett, I tipped my hat. He's just one of those guys. He's one of those guys that I know that, look, I respect you on and off of the field, and I know the type of player that you are, and he brings it every single rep. So, yes, there's multiple players. These guys on the defensive side are getting more freakish every single day.

And I respect it. I always feel like a great offensive lineman is an intellect. At some point, you're an intellect. You have to see the game before it happens. Right. I always think a great pass rusher is got a half screws. For sure. He's blowing stuff up.

Like the great pass rushers, there's just a different click to him. For sure. Are most trash talkers? Max Crosby is a trash talker. Most of those guys are trash talkers. That's right. That's part of their DNA. Yeah, it's just what they do.

They try to get into the offensive linemen's head, but they are trash talkers. you know and uh vaughn is vaughn which is my teammate now which i'm thankful for vaughn is one of those funny trash talkers and uh he might catch you like but like off guard like like what you just say but he's talking he's talking smack so you're you're protecting um i i say this with all respect to mahomes you're protecting the most physically gifted quarterback i've ever seen shal there's nothing different for sure he also is in the second smallest market in Buffalo. And I think to myself, you know, you guys wear helmets. So, you know, fans know who you are, but you can hide a little. For Josh Allen to be in Buffalo, it's like Farver Aaron Rogers in Green Bay.

Do you ever think he feels a bit overwhelmed, like can't go to the grocery store kind of thing? You ever, I think to myself, I mean, in New York, he'd be mobbed in Buffalo. How does he go to He doesn't. Josh doesn't, you know. He just Josh, Josh, he stays away. Does he? You know, out of respect of the little bit of time that he has, because he spends all day at the facility. So when he's not in the building, he can't go anywhere.

Like, dinners are usually the best because we go in one way and out the next. And the people that are in charge there, they take great care of us, where we can just sneak in and sneak out. But Josh, Josh is at the highest. of the highest. Like, mobs will really mob, and it's like a real mob. Oh, yeah. How does he lead?

Does he ever bark? I mean, does Josh ever bark? I mean, is he ever allowed? I mean, like you, he didn't have to worry about it. But is he ever gotten after you a little bit? Like, he verbal. Absolutely, yeah. Josh is like one of those guys that will do what it takes at that moment.

And he's definitely a barker when that time comes. Okay. And I've actually seen the bark a lot more this. OTAs where he's been like very, very, like verbal because our team is different. Like, it's, it's different. You got some young dudes on that offense. We got some young dudes that, like, you know, like when they come in, like, they see a little bit of success and it could change. So, Josh is doing exactly what and what he should.

So you guys let go of a couple of really good veterans, not only good players, like leader guys. So it feels like to me, it's like you and Josh are kind of like leaders now. Yeah. Are you comfortable? Are you comfortable barking? Are you comfortable being that guy? Yeah, I've always barked. You know, like, I'm always want to shoot it straight. Like, I don't hide. I live in a vulnerable state, and I tell it the way that it should. And I've wore the captaincy on my chest for three years. And it's a blessing to even be in that realm of looked at as that. So I think that when you're in a position to run a football team, you have to bark. And you have to know who you can bark too because everybody doesn't take barking the right way.

So you have to learn what type of bark to use for which type of player. That's interesting. Like I don't know Keon fully yet because he's new. I can't just be like, Keon, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Let's go. I don't know yet. So I'm going to see in a couple practices and see what type of kid he is when he gets hit. and I'm a sea.

And then if he can take it, then he'll definitely get the barks. Buffalo's weather can be a little chilly. Yeah. You know, Keon Koma's a Florida kid. I always think it's, you're a temple guy. So do you tell some of those Florida, Texas guys, when they come up, you're like, okay now, our summer, it's about 12 days. Maybe 10, maybe 10 days.

It gets cold quick. Do you give them a heads up? like you better be ready because it's brand of football up here. There are no finesse Buffalo bill teams. For sure. You tell them that, no problem. Yeah, it's more so like, look, kid, I mean, they always say, how do it? Like, how do you do it?

And I always say, the blessing of it is we could afford jackets. You know, like, you could afford a nice jacket. So get you a nice jacket. Make sure you start your car in the morning and get your butt to practice. You'll be all right. My wife used to have to do some PR work around the country, and she always said Buffalo had the nicest people of anywhere. But they do.

And I will back that. Buffalo does have some great people. You know, they have their bad too. Like Buffalo has, they're bad. But, you know, for the most part, Buffalo, Buffalo's people are the best, if not the best. But the bills mean a lot to the community. And they love us.

And, you know, like I played at Temple, which it wasn't Alabama. So I didn't really have that overall feel of what, being truly appreciated as an athlete was until I got to the bills. And when I got there, it was like the highest of the highest. So it's a beautiful feeling to have a neighborhood and a community really, you know, high key worship the bills because it's interesting. Brady goes part of the Brady story, Tom Brady story, is he was overlooked. So you're one of the top two or three left tackles in the entire sport.

It's the second most valuable position after quarterback. and you go to Temple, does it still push you off? Do you still think to yourself, oh, oh. Like when you see a pass rusher from Ohio State, do you think, bring it Buckeye? A hundred percent. I have the biggest chip on my shoulder, and I take it with the most pride that I'm playing against guys that went to these big schools and have all these accolades, and I'm doing my job. You know when they go to school. For sure.

You know where all. Every guy, we look at the depth chart, top the bottom. bottom size, what round they got drafted. They're 40 times, their weight, their bench pressed and 225, their three cone drill, all of it. I look at every single thing about the

player, but no, I am thankful that I went to Temple because Temple continued to mold me to have that dog. And when I'm off of the field, I'm very calm. I'm calm, but chaotic, but I'm calm. And then when I play, it's a whole

different ballgame. And thankfully, to wheeze and cultural. Max Crosby is one of my favorite people. He is, and a part of why I like him is he's just wired differently. How many times have you faced him? Twice? I think it was twice. I think it was twice, but once when Max Crosby was Max Crosby.

Like, you know, like when now Max Crosby is is Max Crosby. Like he's flowing. Like he's at the best of his game and he's getting better. You faced him when he was a kid. Younger. By the way, like you overlooked. My whole life. school. Still, and still

overlooked, still. But it's okay because I'm winning in the shadows and then that'll change when it changes. But hey, year eight, it's still great, you know? Dion Dawkins, who has been the highest graded offensive linemen for the Buffalo Bills every year he's been there.

It's always good seeing you, man. It's a beautiful thing. You know, what are you doing out west? Well, I train and I drive drift cars, man. I'm big in drifting now. What does that mean? I don't even know what that is. So let me tell you. So, like, you know what NASCAR is?

Yeah, I know what NASCAR is, yeah. Drifting is where you drive sideways. It's literally driving sideways. And, like, but, like, you might think that, like, you're going 100 miles per hour. You're literally going, like, maybe 40, 50, 60. Now, where do you do this? At the big Indian drift pit in Buffalo. It's a beautiful thing.

Was that a corset temple? When did you get into that? What's going on? I'm telling you. Buffalo just keeps unveiling different parts of Buffalo. Like, I didn't even know. that Buffalo has this stuff. And it's just like, hey, Dion, like, you want to go drifting?

Like Tony said, Dion, do you want to go drifting? And I was like, I don't know what drifting is. And I go out there and I get in a drift car. And Eric just takes me on a spin and I fell in love. Like, it was the same thrill of being in the game because you're in control and you have to fight in the car while spinning sideways. And then two days later, I had my own car. And I was drifting my own car two days later. They drove down in Jersey.

you know what this is. Pick the car up and did their thing. I do. And it's actually, it's starting to pop a little bit. It looks really, really scary. Like, I guess the question would be, when you're in there, are you more nervous than anything else? So no. And let me explain why.

I got to look this up. It's intense. Because, like, you have to think, right? Like, when you're in a car and you're going 200 miles per hour straight, with nobody really around you, when you're drifting, you're, that. this close to the car and that you're racing against. So a little bump, a little tap, it's not about to make the car do all this crazy stuff.

It's just going to spin it out. And then you just idle out. Like the cars never flip, they never do all this weird stuff. The bumper might pop off, but the car will then stop. And then it's over. So it's more so safer. You know, you've got a full cage. Because you're not going as fast.

Right. But you're not as far apart from the car. You're closer. I'm not pulling into Starbucks. doing drifting that is a crazy who makes the car well uh well i'm a monster athlete so i got monster that that's helping me with with all of the the ins and out and then i have eric and eric's crew

which is now and my crew in buffalo that are tuning it and tweaking my engine and doing all all the cool stuff there's a part of america things are happening in this country you don't even know what's bro it's so cool man i'm telling you the question is you would love it what would it take for calling to get one not going to all the answer do it just come out. Nope. I'm going to drift 55 miles an hour on the I-5 going home today. That'll be my dream.

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I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.

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I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise. if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals.

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who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, Traders, and we're gearing up for the season finale. of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like what just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion of the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of ha who. Again, we experts. So make sure to tune into Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes.

Listen to PodMeets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. I was gone for a couple of weeks and there was some NBA free agency. And, you know, like Clay Thompson, you know, he could make the Mavs a little better, probably their fourth best player at this point, third or fourth best player. I thought there were two moves that really stood out to me. One a gain, one a loss. I thought Isaiah Hartonstein for the Knicks going to Oklahoma City. Obviously, he's a perfect fit for OKC. They need size, rebounding toughness.

But I thought it was a real loss for the Knicks. I love the McAil Bridges move, but losing him feels punitive. Like, four of their best players are often tiny guards. They average eight points more a game when Isaiah Hartinstein was on the floor the last two years. They led the NBA regular season and postseason in offensive rebounds. and offensive rebounding. That's because of him. I thought he was a perfect fit.

He was a relentless player. He was physical. He was tough. I thought he was a huge, huge loss for them. I thought Paul George, nine straight years averaging 20 a game, elite defender, is a huge, huge get for Philadelphia. You know, Carmelo Anthony was a better high school player. He was a prodigy and at Syracuse.

but I would say Carmelo Anthony wouldn't win you a series like Paul George would. Carmelo eight playoff series in his career. Three, excuse me, he's won three playoff series in his career. George has won eight playoff series in his career. Paul George is a better defender. He's in better shape. His game isn't as pretty as a Carmelo Anthony.

It's not as aesthetically pleasing. Paul George is a great player. And again, a two-way player who's, hit a ton of big shots in big games. I don't know what the Clippers are doing, but I know that when Paul George goes to Embed

and Tyrese Maxie and Ascending Star, I felt like, oh, that could challenge if Embedd's healthy, they could challenge the Celtics. I felt that the Knicks could until they lost Isaiah Hartenstein. And then I thought, go. Big get for OKC. They need

to size and toughness. So those were the two moves that really, really stuck out to me. By the way, I like Mikhail Bridges a lot. I think he's a great fit for the Knicks, but Julius Randall now, he'll be a, you know, it'll be a smaller lineup, really small lineup some of the time.

I thought that was a bad, that was a bad moment for the Knicks. Now people can say, well, he was an 8 and 8 guy. 8 points, a rebound, you can't pay him a fortune. I think when you get to the end of the year, you'll understand why you had to pay him. That one hurt for the Knicks.

That's a really good player, but that's The downside is that he got a lot of TV exposure. He was such a great fit. He may not be as crucial for OKC as he was for the Knicks, but we look this morning, they average eight more points a game when he plays the last two seasons than when he doesn't. He only averages eight points. But that tells you the fit with a Knicks for him.

All right, back in a second to wrap it up. Live in L.A., it's The Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays, in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I Heart Radio app. Polly Fusco here with Tony Fusco. Yo, as everybody knows,

we're the host of the award-winning Polly and Tony Fusco show. Yeah. But instead of us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on our show. Quick, knowledgeable, and funny, opinionated. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

What are you doing? You're interrupting our promo. Yeah. He wasn't talking about you. You took those clips totally out of context. Oh, yeah, well, after this promo, I'm going to take you out and beat you. Let me put this into context.

Shut up. Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Pauli and Tony Fusco show on Iot Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've done. never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson,

we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man. man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, IZE, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court,

and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports.

And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramers sending on to Ernie Stewart for Chip. I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines.

I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about Balagan. I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team.

It wouldn't be a huge support. if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen to Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone, it's Ryder Strong and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered dancing with the stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor.

So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Yeah.

Just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion of the 50th season. From the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of Ha, ooh, ha, ha, ooh. Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune into Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to PodMeets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Lane Johnson, Philadelphia Eagles joining us last hour. Here's Jordan with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Colin, the bills will look to replace the loss of Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis after moving on from them this offseason. Buffalo drafted Keon Coleman out of Florida State early in the second round, and the rookie said he's not feeling any additional pressure to replace them. Adding, quote, all I got to do is come in, be myself, be who I'm supposed to be,

because I'm not Gabe, I'm not Steph, I'm just Keon. Colin, I am a massive fan of Keon Coleman. I've had scouts, executives tell me he's got Keenan Allen and Mike Eiff. Evans type of ability. This is a 6-4 punt returner, short area of quickness. People criticize him for running a 4-6. He ran over 20 miles per hour in the Gotland at the Combine. That's the best time over the last two years. Played football and basketball at Michigan State before going to the Noles. This is a freak athlete. He's going to make contested catches, and he often makes the spectacular look regular and ordinary. He's dynamic, and I think he's going to be an instant

day-one, big-time contributor to Josh Allen in the Buffalo office. Well, last couple of years, they've nailed it on a tight end. They've nailed it on a running back, so they do feel like they have the requisite weapons. And by the way, there's two positions in this league, maybe three, where you can come in a rookie and be very good. Running back, wide receiver and corner. A lot of that's instinct. You've got it or you don't. You're on an island as a corner.

You can cover you. Sauce Gardner was great. Patrick Sertan was great. First game in the NFL. Same at wide receiver. I mean, Tankdale walks into the league. You never watched him play in college. he's great. Puka Nakua. Unbelievable. So there are other positions. Even a great college left tackle,

there's like a growth period. Quarterback. Rush end, sometimes it takes a year. Any line position. Tide ends tend to be slow developers because you don't have to block in college like you do in the NFL. There are positions. Linebacker, you can be a little over your skis. if you can play wide receiver, you could have 75, 80 catches and a half dozen touchdowns. If you have a Josh Allen and you're a deep threat,

you can be just fine, day one. And the confidence. I love the confidence, you know. The Raiders will hope that one of Aiden O'Connell or Gardner Minshu will give the team stability under center after missing out

on Michael Pennix Jr. and Daniels in a draft. In an appearance on speak yesterday, Devante Adams was asked who he wants throwing him the football. I want whoever's going to look the best, you know, when it's time when it's when it's live bullets. So at the end of the day, I don't have a preference other than the fact that I want somebody that's confident, ready to go when it's time to do it. So whoever that is, that's who I

want throwing the ball. I think right now, if I had to say, I think Aiden has the job because, you know, obviously he was here before and that's the way that it was. He was running with the ones more. And until Garner comes in and, you know, takes the job away from him, I think it's Aiden's job. up right now. Well, if that's your starter in the AFC, you know, you're going to be drafted number one, two, or three.

The good news for the Raiders is they got a lot of components. They hopefully have the right coach. My take is they'll be drafting New York Giants, New England Patriots, who don't need a quarterback,

I would imagine. And the Raiders, cross your fingers if you're a Titan fan. I think they'll be okay. But, I mean, the Raiders are going to be drafting way up the board next year.

I mean, I like Antonio Pierce, but there's no doubt they were interested in Pennix, Jaden Daniels. And listen, Gardner Minchew's good in two or three games stretches, but he's never been a starter for an entire season. Aiden O'Connell had some moments last year, a couple. But if you're in the AFC West against Bo Nix, potentially, Justin Herbert, and Patrick Mahomes. Well, Aidan O'Connell doesn't move particularly well. And let's be honest, Gardner Minchew with Shane Steichen looked great.

Jalen Hertz was Shane Steichen was an MVP candidate. So the coach matters. Now he's getting a defensive coach. So Gardner Minchew is not going to put up last year Gardner Minchew numbers. I will say that Adams did recently admit that Aaron Rogers has been in his ear recruiting him to the Jets. I mean, we've been talking about that it feels like for the last year. Aaron's got to worry about that whole line. It's not a receiver issue.

They got an O-line issue. Okay. To Team USA Basketball, where we can. tip-off exhibition against, I should say, ahead of the Olympics, against Canada tonight on FS1. Last summer, Canada defeated the U.S. and the Feeba World Cup bronze medal game, but we didn't have step for LeBron. Dylan Brooks has never shied away, as you know, from a little trash talk and addressed the rematch saying, there's no USA players that spoke up after the bronze medal game lost and wanted to play. Our team, our time was last year, and now it's our time for

this year. But instead of getting bronze, we want the gold. Colin, expectations for Team USA tonight. Well, if Team USA is going to lose a game, this would be the team that could beat them. I don't think they will beat them. But Canada, between their basketball and their soccer, are on a nice little run here.

But this is a really interesting Team USA because you have these, apparently LeBron's been great. You've got these legendary, great older players, and then you've got these players like Aunt Edwards who want to be the go-to guys. So I actually think from an overall roster standpoint, it's a pretty interesting team.

SGA, Jamal Murray on Canada. And then, by the way, we were talking about Derek White earlier. A few minutes ago, Jalen Brown, I don't know if you saw this, Colin, tweeted out three emojis like looking. And what that tells me, and what the speculation is, is that maybe he wasn't super happy not to be asked to join Team USA. He said in October he would be honored and to have Derek White. teammate is a little bit of friction there potentially. You said Derek White would be great. Jalen Brow is like a better version.

He can do all the different things. Yeah, Jail's a better player. That's interesting. Right? Yeah. Fourth story, the last story, I should say. The Warriors moved on from Chris Paul this offseason. And instead of ring chasing, CP3 ended up signing a one-year deal to play with Wemby and the Spurs.

In his introductory press conference, Chris Paul talked about how playing time was the biggest factor and his decision. I love nothing more than the opportunity to play and contribute and who. My family is everything. My wife is here. My kids are back in L.A., and that's where they will be during the season. And I love basketball so much that I could be close to home, but if I'm not playing, I'm not happy.

We saw this opportunity, even though it had put me away from my family. my family knows me better than anybody and they know that, you know, I just want to play. Yeah, Colin, I think Chris Paul gives legitimacy to the Spurs in a way they haven't had. He speeds up the clock. You know, when he went to Phoenix, he helped them become more legitimate

as a franchise as an organization. People forget, you know, maybe they don't, but Devin Booker's tremendous. They were a mess before Chris Paul. So why can't he get San Antonio to 40 wins next year? Oh, I think he probably will. And, you know, at this point, it's been established. Health will be a concern past the All-Star break.

But that's probably the best guy in the league. And maybe the best guy for Wimby. Yeah. I mean, I mean, Lobb City. I mean, he can get him six points a night, eight points a night on Lobbs alone. I mean, D'Andre Jordan put up some numbers. Yeah, you give the double-double guy. You know, and D'Andre's a good player, but a pretty limited offensive guy.

All of a sudden, he had a little bit of juice, a little bit of energy with Chris Paul. See, I also think this is. accelerates Wimbunyama because you're playing with a guy who's so good in the pick and roll that he's going to learn things just by by proxy that maybe he wouldn't have before. I think it's a great move, even though it's one year. Yeah. Jordan with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Lane Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles will be joining us last hour. So Team USA and Canada tonight. That's an interesting one. Canada's had a nice little run. The NBA, without Steph, KD, and LeBron making a late playoff push, it really hurt the ratings, but the quality of play is really good.

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