The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Would Pete Rose Want This?

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

Covino & Rich slide head first into the Pete Rose/Shoeless Joe Jackson news! The guys have a great discussion about the timing of it all! Plus, some Ray Liotta love, 'SHAQ DIESEL TRIVIA' & tonight's NBA action! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on baseball. Dude, we talk about the NBA over-unders. I've been doing over-under strikeouts and home runs. And it's so fun, honestly. For instance, like Aaron Judge, home-run, you know, yesterday I missed out because I had Verlander under four-and-a-half strikeouts. But you can pick, like, three things.

And it keeps you so locked in to just deadly baseball. And again, this is not an official commercial. This is me just telling you I'm having a lot of fun with it. The pick-six thing. Because you don't have to do six because the odds are tough with six. What do you got tonight? You pick anything tonight? I'm going to go over it a little bit.

All right. I want to look. But, yeah, we do the codes and the commercials, rightfully so. But I'm telling you personally, I'm really having fun with that. I was talking to some of my softball buddies about it. And I'm like, you better use our stupid code buddy. All right. Hey, Pete Rose, the big story today.

Shoeless Joe Jackson, the big story today. Can I tell you for a split second? A split second. You thought it was Joe Jackson the singer? No, I thought it was Michael Jackson's dad, Joe Jackson. No, for a split second, I saw a picture of Pete Rose in his Captain Kangaroo haircut wearing his red sat. This is reinstated.

And I was like, yeah, he died. That's right. Like, I forgot for a split second. You thought it said Pete Rose resurrected? No, reinstated. So I'm like, oh, man, look, finally. Oh, no, no. Oh, but yeah, he's dead.

Breaking news today. You heard Dan Beyer. MLB commissioner Rob Manfred removed Pete Roses and Shulis Joe Jackson and other deceased players from the league's permanently ineligible list on Tuesday. Reinstated removed from MLB's permanent ineligible list. And I'm like, okay. Shulis Joe Jackson, legend. We know the story.

We've seen feel the dreams. We know. Shulis Joe Jackson. We saw good fellas. Yeah. Pete Rose. Yeah, okay, we all know his story. A little, too little too late here, but, okay, all right, it makes sense.

And then my other question, along with Jay Stu, too, because I saw Jay Stu in the hallway. Yeah. Who? Yeah, he's like, he's like, Jay Who? Jay Stu! Producer. He's like, my question would be, well, why? And I'm like, yeah.

That was a good impersonation. And he gave you that, my eyebrow raised. Is that big Jay? Yeah, he's like, why? And I'm like, yeah, I know. Why now? He actually said, My first question is, why on a random Tuesday, May 13th?

Because of what's happening tomorrow. And then, yeah, he did the detective work. Oh, today, tomorrow is actually Pete Rose Day. So it does kind of add up and make sense. I don't know if that's why it adds up. No, but it does make it make more sense, right? Like, why now? And then I started thinking, too, when I hear Dan Byer saying,

and other 17 other people on the list. And I'm like, can I mean anyone else on the list? And then it makes sense. Do you remember the movie, eight men out? Yep, those are eight of them. Yeah, eight of them are from the Black Sox scandal. So most of them are black socks that played with shoeless Joe Jackson, the guys with the shoes. So.

Shoeless Joe Jackson. Most of them and are affiliated with that scandal from back then. So. Iowa, Sam brought up something about Ray Leota. And I was laughing because it's exactly what I picture in my mind. You're looking at like MLB Network right now and you see a picture of Pete Rose and a real picture of Joe Jackson. You're like, why isn't, is that, why is that not Ray Leota's face? I know.

You're like, oh, wait. Oh. You think of Joe Jackson. You're like, can I give you a Ray Leota fun fact? Please do. He's from my hometown of Union, New Jersey. And he's in our Union, New Jersey High School Hall of Fame. And I was there sitting in the audience when he was inducted.

Goodfellows came out in 1990. I graduated in 94. So he got inducted around 91, 92 or something like that, fresh off of the movie fame. And it was an experience. I'll leave it at that. And we later had him on the show years later. You in the Hall Fame? And then you remember him most.

Aside from Goodfellas and Shoeless Joe Jackson in the Field of Dreams, you know him best probably from Chantix. Chantics. Are you in the Hall of Fame, by the way? Am I? No, I'm in the Hall of Nothing. How are you not in the Union Hall of Fame? Because just Ray Leota. They're going up against Ray Leota.

Ray Leota, Robert Wool, and Artie Lang. Artie Lang. They're all from my hometown. No one else. No room for Steve Covina. Actually, former Yankee Joe Collins. Joe Collins. You should be on the Melt Rushmore Union.

Collins can get in there. You should get in. Yeah, man, I think so. Of those 17 players that were on the list, all of them in one way or another except two were tied to gambling of some sort. Yeah, I know. I had to look it up. Yeah. Because I'm like, all right, well, there's eight covered, right?

Eight men out, that famous movie from the, what was it, late 80s with John Cusack. I remember going to see it, too. The Black Suck scandal, looked to see if I knew or recognized any other names. And you really don't, but they all are gambling related, which is so ironic and almost hypocritical in today's world. Look how rich just started off this segment. How much fun he's having gambling on baseball. Yeah. And we're still like holding this.

against these guys. And I get it. They broke rules that applied then. Oh, I understand it. Maybe what are the other reasons? Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, don't hold it against Benny Koff, Kavino. Just because he was acquitted on an auto theft charge, but was still subsequently banned. Right. Auto theft.

And then, we all know shuffle and Phil Douglas, right? The old New York Giants player. He was banned after threatening his manager. So that's why he was on the ineligible list. Oh, Shuffling. I'm going to go to chat GPT right now and see If chat GPT could give Rich an old school baseball nickname.

Please do. Camino's been obsessed with this. It's going to take four gallons of water to spit that out. No, no, no, I got it. I'm scarecrow, Rich Davis. That would be kind of mine. Maybe it's more Wizard of Oz than anything. Can we give radio host Rich Davis an old school baseball nickname?

Let's see what they come over. Oh, double talk Davis, see? Oh, there he is. Double-talking. Hold on. Perfect for a radio host known for chatting up a storm. Double-talked Davis. Rich to mouthpiece Davis.

Oh, reflects his role as a vocal personality. Yeah. Hey, there he is. Quick-draw-Davis with the double. Quick-draw-d-d-davis. Suggests. Double-talking the days, double plays at night. And fast-talking.

Oh, there he is. Slick Davis with a play at second base. A nod to a smooth-talker with charm. Oh, this one. There he is. Stepping to the plate, Chatterbox Davis. There is. That's it.

I think that's the winner. Chatterbox. Chatterbox Davis. Lighthearted and era appropriate. Look at it. It's about in 213. Chatterbox Davis. So,

Shillish Joe, Pete Rose. Now, I'm not saying this because I don't want to get on the bad side of Rob Manfred. I don't want any baseball hookups ever taken away from me. But I'm reading a lot of sentiment online. Like Adam hit us up on X and said, yo, guys,

I'm big baseball fans like you. I love MLB, but Rob Manfred is a damn coward. Removing Rose and Shoeless Joe from the band list because they, quote, are no longer with us and cannot represent a threat to the integrity? No threat to the integrity of the game as the quote goes and as you heard from Dan Byer. It does feel lame and like, yeah, was this really announcement worthy? We all know that. It's like death also eliminates people from life and imprisonment.

His lifetime ban was lifted from baseball. Yeah, they're dead. And not to sound morbid. I joke before and I said, hey, old Barry Bond should fake his death. Just to know, guys like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, the rocket, those guys know now in the back of their head. It sounds terrible, but they're like, eh, I guess when I'm dead one day. Nothing matters. My family will get to see this. No, that is not correct. Because they are eligible. No one's voting for them. Oh, that's right. This is this stipulation with Rose.

It's also not a guarantee that this classic committee, baseball era committee, votes Pete Rose and Shulis Joe Jackson. And they still need to be voted in by the Baseball Hall of Fame. Which is a separate entity as we figured out. And in 1989, when Rose was given his lifetime ban, there was no ban for the Hall of Fame at that time. It only came in 1991 when Rose was first eligible. that the Hall of Fame said, well, anybody that's on the permanently ineligible list cannot be enshrined into the Hall of Fame.

Shoeless Joe Jackson actually was up for enshrinement in the 1930s and 1940s, despite being banned. The ban for the Hall of Fame didn't come in until 1991 until after Pete Rose had agreed to his lifetime ban with Bart Giamati. But bonds, all of the Clemens, Raphael Palmero, Arod, all have been on the ballot. Remember we say they get 38% of the vote. They get 40% of the vote. So they're all clean. They're all clean for it to be enshrined. Pardon me.

Chatterbox Davis got it wrong. A double take for Double Talk. There he is. Double Talk Davis, yeah. He's 0 for 2 today. Chatterbox Davis. So funny. So to me it's almost like, yeah, what would he do?

It's almost like you're making the statement for some sort of like, you know what, Rob Manfred, you did the right thing. You did nothing. They died. I mean, you're dead. Does anything really matter? Like Rich, you mentioned, I'm not in the Union High School Hall of Fame. Yeah. Is it going to mean, didily squat to me if I'm dead? Who cares? Yeah, this is like when Kenny Stabler was put into the Hall of Fame right after he died. I was like, it sucks the life out of the joy out of it. I mean, it's...

You're not giving anyone an honor. You're just saying they're dead so it doesn't matter. You're not giving them anything. They died. There's no more ban lifted. They're obviously not a threat. You know why? Because they're dead. It's dumb.

The whole thing just wrong to me the wrong way. What about the family and the organization? Like the Reds put out the statement about how happy they are as an organization. You know what it made them much more happy to see their grandfather and their father and their family member honored when he was alive and when it mattered? So yeah, it might help the family legacy a little bit. But it didn't help anything for Pete Rose. And again, it's, again, it's baseball, dude. It's not like he murdered anybody.

This guy, this guy here is dead. Cross him off then. Cross him off. I look at it this way. Kovino and I have made it a point over the years. And we try to do this. Honor people while they're here. Nothing bothers me more than when some actor, musician, a great athlete, someone dies.

And then everyone decides to, as the kids say, give them their flowers. Give them their flowers while they're alive. We make a deliberate attempt to try to do that every once in a while, whether it be here on Fox Sports Radio or a Patreon show. You'll just have a random thought. You'll appreciate somebody. I'm like, you know, I'm going to write this down because this dude deserves some props or some credit. He's been doing it for too long. He's too great at what he does.

No one is going to talk about it until he's dead. Let's talk about him now. Yeah. So that's why I feel bad about this whole Pete Rose thing. We said it over and over again that he'll be acknowledged once he dies. And it's exactly what happened. Is Donald Trump going to try to take credit for this? Remember, didn't he say, like, earlier, I'm like, we're going to get him in?

Oh, my God. That's a whole other conversation in itself. And again, it doesn't mean he's going to be in the Hall of Fame, guys. It just means that he's eligible now and that he's no longer banned because he's no longer a threat to the MLB. It also, as you brought up the point about the families. Yeah. And I know Danny brought up Kenny Stabler, but Kenny Stabler didn't do anything. wrong. Like they should have, they should have enshrined him. Pete Rose did something wrong. And what

Major League Baseball is saying is, we know that he did something wrong. And if Pete Rose were alive today and we put this into effect, he would not be eligible. He still would be on the permanently ineligible list because he's still alive. The ruling, as Manfred calls it, policy says, if you are dead, well, then you're done. You are no longer a threat to the game. You're no longer, you know, could possibly bring any stain to the game. So that's over with. So with that, the end of your life means the end of your sentence, which may give solace to the family or the Reds fans, but doesn't necessarily put Pete Rose or shoeless Joe Jackson off the hook because they aren't here to be celebrated. He's only eligible because he's lifeless, Joe Jackson.

Yes, that is correct. And by the way, think of how long the Joe Jackson family had a wait to get this news. How long has that guy been dead for? Right? It's ridiculous. Probably like the FDR administration. It's a weird announcement. You know, that's my feeling. Joe Jackson, how long he's been dead? Yeah. Jason Stewart said he had been dead for 71

years. He died December 5th, 1951. 71 years has been dead. That's what? Seventy-three years, 74 years, whatever it is. He was no threat 71 years ago. But now we announce it. I guess better late than never. Yeah, you can't have a death sentence.

I mean, you can. You can have a life sentence, and then when you die. Was it eight men out for a lifetime and 71 years? Now, listen, again, no, you know, with no disrespect to, you know, victims and major crimes, right? Yeah. But you ever see someone in court and they hand down some piece of trash, some real piece of S, like back to back to back? All these life sentences and you're like, one's enough. I get it because you want to make sure that the people that were affected have their justice, their feeling.

But there are times that it's like 30 years to life for this count. This counts 30 years. And a guy serving like five back-to-back consecutive life sentences. Are they predicting this guy to live to 300? It's not going to live five lives. It's symbolic. It sends a message. No, but I'm saying symbolic.

But I think there's something while meaningful to those families. Yeah, but they always say banned for what? Banned for life, right? That's what you would think. So it's implied. Isn't it implied that when they die, the ban is lifted? But not for Joe Jackson and the other eight guys, it was for life plus 71. Manfred said that ban for life was never a part of this.

Really? What does that mean? Ineligible list. Now, and that's what he said. They called it policy that now they can be taken off the list and allow this to be put in the hands of the baseball Hall of Fame. I brought this up earlier. I'm going to try it again because it didn't sound right. so maybe I'm going to be Double Talk Davis here.

But earlier today on the network on Doug Show, the Menendez trial is front and center here in Southern California. And I don't know if it's that way across the country. But there is a there is, I think that there are parallels. They may not be exact to what's going on. But again, there was a questioning about the sentencing and how that went down. It was the same thing with Pete Rose, where he thought that he would be able to renegotiate his entrance into Major League Baseball

after a year but decided to accept this agreement to say that he didn't bet on baseball to stop litigation against the league. Then Bart Giamati dies. Faye Vincent becomes commissioner and says, well, this is the agreement. You signed it. You said that you are permanently ineligible from Major League Baseball. And it was never moved from that.

And commissioners after the fact did not want to change a commissioner's previous ruling. Manfred even mentioned that in the statement. It's, I mean, I don't know if it's like a game of Kavino's favorite game of Jenga, but there's just a lot of pieces like in and out here and moving around. And somehow or another, Manfred's figured out a way to craft this in a way that, I don't know, to me kind of makes sense.

But I may be. Is he trying to take glory on just a weird announcement? Like, see what I did? Yeah, I think that that could, you know, that could be part of it. And a lot of people like you, I think just don't, you know, see right through it. It's like made up valor. It's like, hey, guys, look what I'm doing. And I'm like, okay, but he died.

And by the way, speaking of the Menendez brothers, I do love the infamous Menendez brother Mark Jackson basketball card. Have you ever seen that? Yeah, NBA Hoops. NBA Hoops, 1990. It's Mark Jackson throwing a pass, but the Menendez brothers are sitting right there, courtside. I have this card in my collection.

You do have that one? Yeah, that's a classic. It's a weird one. All right, let's get to the phone calls on this because it is a big, big, breaking story today. Pete Rose off the ineligible list along with the other black socks guys and other gambling

stories and who do we got, Rich? Let's say how to Brooklyn and Bruno. What's up, Bruno? CNR boys. I love you guys. Hey, this is near dear to my heart. I honestly believe this is such a really bad thing. Pete, you know, to put him in or if they're

considering putting him in after the fact, keep them out. You know what I mean? They shouldn't put in it posthumously. It really isn't right. The other players, the Black Sox guys, I can understand that, but just think about the environment we live in today with legalized gambling. I mean, all these players that are still right now, I mean, NFL, NBA, these guys gamble on their phones every day. Now, that being said, it's window dressing. It's terrible now because you know what? I'd rather see you and be left out. It's Susan Lucci. Don't give me award. Yeah, it's a sympathy thing. It's almost better. It's almost

It's insulting a little bit. It's almost better off leaving him out. I agree. You know what it's like. That's a great call. Agreed. Great call. That is, you could feel and see right through the, the tomfoolery.

It's just disingenuous. It feels odd. Like in force. Especially the current, like I said, we started a segment, me talking about how I'm loving doing the draft king's pick six. And, you know, gambling and sports wagering is a part of life now. It's almost like that poor. And guess what?

Pete Rose was around while the explosion happened. And let me tell you, it's also, it's like that sad story of, like, a guy that's sitting in jail because he had a joint on him and he got arrested for weed. Meanwhile, like everywhere you go, there's, you know, shop, weed legal shops everywhere. So Bruno's saying it's sending a bad message at this time, right? Yeah, it's a weird. It's a mixed message. Kurt, actually, let's go to Mitchell first. He's been on a hole for a while.

Thanks, Mitchell. 87799 on Fox. What's up, buddy? What's up? Hey, what's up, guys? Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, blank major league baseball, and they can shove that lift up. their football pass because to me, I mean,

you know, you had to know the man didn't have much life left. They could have took that up a year or so ago. They're not doing it now for his... Yeah, I mean, I feel the announcement on this random Tuesday a day before Pete Rose Day does make you feel that way.

It does. Pete Rose, legend. Shoeless Joe Jackson, legend. Will they be in the Hall of Fame in two years when the committee votes? probably. Kurt and Penn. What's up, Kurt? Going on, guys. I love his show. Oh, thank you, man. Thank you, man. Yeah, no, so I'm probably, you're not going to like me.

I was so happy when I heard the news today about all of this, to be honest. I understand Pete Rose is Pete Rose and as a person and everything else, but the fact that he owns the record and there's, I hate, like, the steroid guys, but he just was Charlie Hustle. Hey, dude, we're not, we're not saying we're mad at, at this. We're mad at how it was handled. Yeah, yeah, no, we all loved Pete Rose. Yeah, I just think it should have, I think it should have happened while he was alive.

I hope you're not misunderstanding. I like Pete Rose. I think he should be in. I wish that it would have happened. I feel like people should be alive when they go in the Hall of Fame. Like, I'm, like, more stoked about the shoe with Joe Jackson. change. Yeah, he's smiling down somewhere 71 years later. Chanthics. So if Pete Rose is put on this ballot that's going to be voted on by the

Classic Baseball Era Committee in December of 2027, this would be the class, just some of the names that he would go in. Because remember, there's always headliners, right? It would be Albert Pooleholz, Robinson Canoe, Yadier Molina, Steven Strasbourg, David Price, Lorenzo Kane some of the names that would be up that year. Poolhole's in for sure. I'm just laughing there because I'm thinking there would be one writer that's like, Shillard Joe Jackson. I mean, he's not a first ballot guy.

It's the same thing. But like when you would think it would be what a weekend it would be for Albert Poolhole, which would then be completely overshadowed by Pete Rose getting in at that point. That's true. But an honor, no, to be inducted with those names. That's kind of cool. All right. Well, hey, we're going to do a little Shaq Diesel trivia coming up.

And you know what? I got a question for you that'll take 10 seconds in your lifetime because we brought up the great Bartlett Giammati. Can you name the commissioners of baseball since you've been alive? Let's go from, we'll just say roughly 1980 till now. Frank, Frank White. No? I mean, Bill White.

Yeah, he's one of them. Bill White. Yeah. No. What? Yes, he was on the baseballs. Bill White? Mm-hmm.

I don't know. I think he was a national league. He was American and national league. Bill White was a, yeah, a national league guy. I don't know. But I'll go in reverse what I'm. Troy Vincent, right? Troy Vincent. Fay Vincent.

Oh, Fay Vincent. Troy Vincent. I'm sorry. Football player. In our life, if you, let's say you were born around 1980, Bowie Kent Coon. No, I wouldn't remember. And then it was Peter Orbara.

Ubaroth? Ubaroth. Ubarov. Oh, yeah. Now here's where I remember. Giamati. Faye Vincent, Bud C-League, Rob Manfred, obviously. Yeah.

Who is it before in the NFL? Who was it before Roger Goodell? Paul Tagliabu. Paul Tagliabu before that? Pete Roselle. There you go. You know what? I should have known that.

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We'll get a contestant in one minute. In the meantime, Dan Byers got an update. DB, what up? Yes, fellas. The breaking news of the day, it's been a bunch of it, but Major League Baseball has ended the lifetime bands of 17 deceased individuals, including Pete Rosen, Shuless Joe Jackson, taking the players off of the permanently ineligible list.

Major League Commissioner Rob Manfred issued a statement, calling the move a policy issue stating the permanent ineligibility ends, the passing of the disciplined individual. The Hall of Fame is out of baseball's hands. It's now in the hands of the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown as the Historical Overview Committee will develop a ballot of eight names for the classic baseball era committee to vote on when it next meets in December of 2027. So the earliest that Pete Rose or Shulis Joe Jackson or any of the 15 others could be enshrined into the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown is the summer of 2028. Dan, sorry to interrupt. The more where I think about it, the more ridiculous it sounds.

It sounds like it's about Rob Manford, not about Pete Rose or any of these other guys. Because if someone was in prison, let's say they were in prison for a lifetime. Lifetime in prison. And evidence came out and it proved them innocent. You know what? We were wrong. They still spent their life in prison. What difference does it make after they're dead?

None. None. None. And by the way, I heard Elon Musk said they're all still collecting Social Security. Is that true, all 17? You know what? DNA proves them innocence. So we reinstate their innocence. Yeah, but they're dead. Who cares?

Yeah, true. In other baseball news, twins and Orioles postponed tonight as are the Cardinals and Phillies. Cleveland's up on Milwaukee early 1-0. Celtics forward, Jason Tatum underwent successful surgery to repair is torn, right, Achilles tended after suffering the injury in last night's game four loss

to the Knicks. Tonight, Pacers and Cavs, 7 o'clock Eastern Nuggets and Thunder, 930 Eastern time in their game 5s. Portland Trailblazers are up for schedule leaks in the NFL include the Vikings and Steelers playing in Dublin, Ireland. Then the following week, the Vikings and Browns play in London. How about Madrid, Spain, as the commanders and dolphins, November 16th.

That's week 11. Guys, back to you. I'll be honest with you. My 49ers are getting no love. Not from you. I'm saying in general, is the sentiment that they're falling off that much? We know like five games of the Eagles right now, and we don't know anything of the 49ers.

We don't know anything of the lions. I get it, dude. We don't know anything of the Buccaneers. I guess you're right. There's other teams. But the 49ers still have like an 11 over under win total in Vegas. Like the 49ers lost some players, but they're still the 49ers. I don't know.

I feel insulted. In due time. We shall see. All right. You know what? We're going to play a little Shaq Diesel trivia to wrap up the show in a little bit. But let me just read a quick little article. I saw this favors all of us in the room.

And then we'll play when we get back. What? Did you really read it or you just saw the headline? I just saw the headline. But it said this is an article from. Vogue magazine. I know you love Vogue. It said, Gen Xers are the coolest generation.

And I'll just read one line and it sort of sums it all up. It says that over the past few years, you have Gen Z hating on millennials for being cringe. You have millennials hitting on Gen Z for being just a little piece of trash. Everyone hates boomers, but if you're roughly

40 and you're Gen X, no one seems to hate on you. Cool with that. Being Gen X, where it is. I like it. Where it's at. It's like you. It's like you're somewhere in the middle. No doubt. All right, listen, Shaq Diesel Trivia, we play next. We got your contestants lined up

right here on Fox Sports Radio. Hangtime. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our... We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite.

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The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Genschen win. I mean, she went down at three to, Rabakina, but I'm delighted.

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Big, big fan of Travis Matthew. Definitely get the hook up. No digity, no doubt. Now before we do, ShaqDee, Diesel trivia. New York, Duke, on line one, says he has an explanation, a quick Ray Leota story? I mean, the more... Yes, I do, and, the most popular guy from Union, New Jersey. Ray Leota, and then it's what, Artie Lang, and then Steve Covino?

And then Robert Wohl. And then Steve Covino, maybe somewhere down there. Yeah, he came up on the show today because of Shulis Joe Jackson. Yeah, he played Shulis Joe and Field the Dreams. What's up, man? Well, I've got that, I've got a story for you really quickly. I met Ray Leota briefly for an afternoon. My best friend at the time was an actress named Gina Maso Jocomo.

She played Janice Rossi in Goodfellas. The Gumad in Apartment 8C, you remember it is. Exactly. Exactly. And as part of the, you know, basically encouragement for Scorsese, they encouraged those guys, Ray and my friend Gina, to, you know, like, spent some time together. So we'd lived up on West 82nd Street,

and Ray came up at the apartment. It was about this time at that, as I want to say about 1989. And he was the most amazing, wonderful person. It was in between, obviously, Fields and Dreams and Goodfellas. But we spent the afternoon watching playoff basketball on the couch. And talking to me, and I'm sure. He mentioned he was from

New Jersey. That's right. And I'm from Randolph, New Jersey. Big football rivals. Yeah. Just wanted to say. Yeah. Very cool story.

Chantics. Chantics. Thanks for sharing, man. And by the way, correction. Janice Rossi lived in apartment 2R. 2R. So what girl did you call a hoe in that? Oh, yeah.

I was bringing someone else's bill. All right. Well, do you want to get a contestant here for Shaq? Diesel trivia, let's go. Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're about to name drop. I'll name drop. Oh, my goodness. Not only are CNN friends with Tyson and Mahomes.

Hey, man, they're also buddies with the Big Aristotle. To shout! Oh, what's up is Big Shaq Diesel, aka Shaq Fu, aka Shack Daddy, aka the Big Aristotle. Guess what? It's time doing some CNN Prize. Time for some basketball trivia. Check diesel basketball trivia.

Uh, would he say? said. I'm breaking records for FSR Radio. Shaq Diesel, basketball trivia. All right, FSR security, walking our broke Shaq Fu into the main studio. Sorry to make you wait, dude. Got me waiting here. I'm a busy, busy man.

Shaq, Danny G. said you're no longer the most popular NBA legend that's a broadcaster. That's fool's doing. He's following in my footsteps, my big footsteps. Michael Jordan wishes he was me. Let's meet the contestants. Michael Jordan trying to be like me. Ten-time winner. Double Talk Davis right over there.

Space Jam was not as good as Pazam. Yeah, now he's trying to get in a booth like me. It's not wrong. Four-time winner, Spotty boy. Hey, what's up? Big five today. Spotty, I'll use you for this. Would you love to travel to beautiful Tulsa, Oklahoma?

Okay. Waterloo, Iowa. Spokane, Washington. All right. Roanoke, Virginia. Roanoke. Or Miami, Florida. I'm a huge fan of the song Waterloo by Abba.

Yeah, but you also like Tulsa, spelled backwards. Stop it. Oh, that's tough. Stop. I'm going to go with Waterloo. All right. That is Corbyn. Don't think that didn't cross my mind, by the way.

Corbyn, what's up? What do you do for a living there in Iowa? I'm a truck driver. Nice, man. Keeps American running. Truck drivers, man. Here are the rules for Shaq Diesel trivia. The first contestant with two correct answers is the champ.

If there's a tie, we have a tie breaker question. Your name is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move on to the next question. Are you ready? Yes. Let's get it home. I've been ready, but you have me sitting around waiting. I know.

All right, come on. All right, let's get this party started. In the next Celtic series, how many of their first 100, three-point types did the Celtics miss? 75. Okay, hold on. Is it A82, B-75, or C-67?

Well, Corbyn spoke up. Corbyn, you've got to say your name. You've got to wait until all three possible answers are read, okay? Okay. So, say Corbyn. Corbin Which one? A, B or C?

B 75. Yes, Corbett on the board. Boom. How did he know that? He didn't need multiple choice. Oh, crazy. When you get it like that, you got to say, Kazam.

With authority. Say with authority. All right, halfway to a Swiggy. Space Jam. We move on to round number two. Round two. What was I once quoted saying about leadership? Okay.

Michael Jordan has none. Just kidding. When you flop No, this is actually about flopping When you flop, that's just another message That you don't know how to play me Stand up and take your medicine like a man Oh

B, I've never seen Michael Jordan flop So I don't want to hear how it's only a problem With today's players Wait, no, no, no, you read your own quote wrong What do you mean I read it wrong? I've seen, I've even seen Michael Jordan flop Sorry to have my glasses on

So I don't want to hear how it's only a problem With today's players Or C flopping is for suckers who should be flipping flapjacks. Spot. What was that quoted saying about leadership? What is it? Flop foppers or for suckers?

Flapjacks. Flipping flapjacks? I like that one. Oh, man. You're wrong. That's a good quote, though. Corbin. Corbin for the steel.

A. A. Yes. Yes. Oh, man. Say it. So you got to say, Kazam. Got to say, Kazam.

Cazam. We know it's better than Space Jam. Yeah, you said when... I'm a true foo-snick. Oh, nice. Yeah, when you flop, that's just another message that you don't know how to play Shaq.

Stand up and take your medicine like a man. Let me guess. Next, Michael Jordan's going to want to wrap. Michael Jordan's going to want to DJ. He's going to want to be an icy hot. He's trying to be like Shaq Diesel. Oh, he's going to also try to do a meme of him or a giff of him.

Yeah, he's trying to do the shimmy just like me. Don't you own a bunch of Papa Johns? I hear he's buying up Domino's. Trying to be like Shaquille. Hey, congratulations. Yeah, great job, Corbyn. Two in a row for the W. Great job.

It means we're going to send out a shiny new C&R water bottle to Waterloo, Iowa. There you go. Iowa. Awesome. Congratulations. All right, guys. Enjoy the games tonight. Tulsa.

Iowa. Enjoy your NBA. All right, later, guys. I'm busy. Later. Thanks, Shaq. I had to go back and spell Tulsa backwards and see what that read out. Did you just figure that out?

Did you hear him laugh? That's why I was laughing. I wrote it out because I couldn't think in my head. And I was like, oh, you, you, you, you pee-brain. I knew that's why he left. The Iowa job you just played. That's Dan Patrick, correct? It is.

Oh, yes, yeah. Iowa. There is. And you have maybe some DP news, right? Well, we're going to be filling in for Dan Patrick on Friday morning. So Iowa will be there Friday morning in for the great Dan Patrick. Thanks for the warning. Remember when I said, I was watching, I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry?

I haven't seen that in a long time. When's the last time you saw that movie? Probably in the 2000. It's now available on Netflix or whatever, so I was watching it. Dan Patrick also is. in that movie. He's in many Sandler movies, but it was cool to see him in that. It's a wild movie.

I think a forgotten classic from Sandler and Kevin James. Worth the watch. I forgot all about that. But yes, listen now on Friday when we get you ready for the weekend with weekend hobnobbing and what else we do on Friday? I feel like we have a new Friday

spectacular. Yeah, we've been playing Steve Covino or Bill Belichick. Oh yeah, I was trying to forget that. So yeah. That's in for Dan Patrick on Friday. And then tomorrow, Fox Sports Radio Nation, regular show, regular time. But we get you ready for your hump day. Midweek major.

We do it every Wednesday. The biggest stories in sports and pop culture are they midweek or major? Well, hey, tonight, you're gearing up for anything you watch and the, are the Yanks on tonight or what? Yeah. Yanks, Seattle. Got to play for Oswaldo Cabrera. Poor kid. Tough injury.

Let's not forget. They put them on the 10-day DL. Honestly, that's like a season ender. It looked like an ankle fracture, but it spun around. You guys think the calves are going to get that W tonight? I was just looking. Is Donovan Mitchell out? Is that, that's the determining factor.

I mean, either way, the Pacers, you have to assume Pacers got this, right? Yeah, 3-1. And then you get the Pacers' Knicks. That would be, that's the dope series right there. Yeah, but it just takes you back to nostalgia times. Let's not forget. We have a big game five tonight tied up two games. games apiece, Nuggies at Thunder.

And the world seems to think the Thunder has this on the control. Ten and a half point favorite. Update 17 minutes ago on All-Star Guard, Spida Mitchell. He's going to be available to face the Pacers. Well, that would insinuate why they are eight and a half point favorites. So the Cavs are big favorites tonight. Same with to Thunder.

So some NBA action tonight. Some baseball like every night. And hey, hopefully you enjoy. Anything else you ever need, you can always reach out. Covino and Rich. And just a reminder, before we get out of here, we're putting the final touches on our June 20th to 22nd party in Las Vegas. This is your invite.

All you got to do, make sure you're there, and very soon we'll give you details. There's going to be events from pool parties, live broadcast, a lot of fun stuff. So meet some people. June 20th to the 22nd in Vegas. Book it. We'll see you. Until tomorrow. Arrived at you, baby.

See you in the Promise Land. Bye. Later, guys. Hey, guys. It's us of the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.

Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your performance. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the I-Hart

radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping them. muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to SportsSlic on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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