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Is it too late?
Because, yeah, I think Rich is the big loser.
I stink at this game.
I know.
Dickie Davis is in Texas for the holidays.
When are you coming to New York?
Aren't you going to New York and then back to L.A.?
Dude, the only bummer about living in Southern California
and my wife's family's from Texas, I'm from New York,
is that all my vacation is spent like road tripping and family stuff.
And it's like, visit this cousin, this uncle, this mom and dad.
It's a nightmare, but I love it.
You know what, though?
At some point in life, you got to take a stand and say, you know what?
I'm taking a proper vacation.
If you want to see me,
I'm not dragging my kids around anymore.
Come visit me wherever I'm at.
How about that?
Time to put your foot down.
You don't think my wife and I have had that conversation
10 times in the last 48 hours?
Of course. So if you're not piecing it together,
Rich is making his rounds,
visiting family in Texas and in New York
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I'm from New Jersey.
Rich is from Long Island.
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There's a story about Zach Wilson we got to get to.
Zach Wilson, super handsome dude, Denver Broncos quarterback,
former Jet, you know Zach Wilson.
Well, it goes back to his high school days.
Apparently he dated this girl named Abby.
Smoke show.
Abby Gile.
Or Gile.
Abby is his ex-girlfriend.
They dated from high school to 2000.
and two. Okay?
Follow me.
Now, Zach Wilson
recently got engaged
to his now fiancé,
longtime girlfriend,
Nicolette Delano.
But guess who else got engaged
just this weekend, Rich?
Let me guess. Zach Wilson's long-time
ex-girlfriend. Zach Wilson's
long-time ex-girlfriend.
So, Zach Wilson
announced his engagement,
beautiful, blonde,
model-esque Nicolette Delano, right?
Dude, he's got a type.
I could tell from the ex and the current girl, and it's my type.
So, Zach Wilson, you may stink in the pocket,
but in the bedroom, you must be slaying it because these two girls are beautiful.
Maybe it's more his type because he's with them.
So Zach Wilson announces his engagement.
He's happy.
And then his ex-girlfriend announces her engagement.
Now, here's the kicker.
She's now engaged to his former college roommate.
Dax Milne, who's a wide receiver for the commanders.
So, Dax is a specialist for the commanders,
a receiver, return specialist,
and again, they used to be good buds and college roommates.
So it gets a little sticky because
here's his old bud with his ex-girl.
Yeah, I know for a fact,
Kavino and I have been friends for 20 years.
Yes.
And I'm not a jealous weirdo type.
In fact, I'm probably one of the least jealous people in a relationship.
Hey, live your life.
I trust you, blah, blah, blah.
But Kavino and I, he would be very difficult for me to ever date or have been with a woman that has been with Kavino.
When your best bud date someone, it's just so oddly off limits for so many reasons.
Well, you have to run it by your bud, right?
That's just part of the etiquette involved here.
you know, there are a few chosen ones.
We call them chosen ones
because Rich and I have been friends for so long,
even through our single days.
There were girls that we have hooked up with.
Not at the same time,
but we've both hooked up with.
Still gross.
And it's, I know.
But you do have to give the courtesy.
It's like you hit a three point and you want that courtesy.
If Rich is going to hook up with her and I hooked up her in a past,
you have to give the courtesy like, hey, you don't care, right?
Like, no.
So I imagine Rich just on like,
brocode alone. I imagine
that Dax being
Zach's, Dax and Zach,
how lame. I imagine
that Dax being Zach's
old college roommate, he did throw
it by him at one point. You have to assume,
well, Zach Wilson's happy. He's got his
beautiful fiancee now.
What does he care? So to simplify
it, Zach Wilson's
college roommate got engaged to his
old ex-girlfriend.
That's really it. That's the story.
A little bit of a drama there. Drama shown,
people love drama.
Now, the question is this twofold.
Can you get with someone, or do you feel comfortable dating someone that used to date
one of your friends, one of your family members?
I know people that are like, yeah, you know, my wife used to date my brother.
And I'm like, what?
To me, the roommate thing is weird for Zach Wilson, Kavino, solely because at one point
in college, when Zach Wilson was dating this girl, he probably told his rule.
roommate, y'all, can you leave the room?
Because we're going to get it on. Or maybe
even when he was in the room.
Yeah, and that happens in college,
believe it or not. It definitely happens.
So he may have heard
some action going down
with the woman he's now
with. And how do you think
that Dax and
Zach root for each other?
There's got to be a weird competitiveness, too,
because, you know,
who's with the better football
player? Who's with the...
You know, who's with the guy with the better career.
So all these little things, and they're all stupid and juvenile,
but it's a bit of a drama show, like I said.
I think here's what you've got to think about, Kove.
You've got to think about how the younger generation
is so much more open with these type of things than our generation
or our parents or grandparents.
They're so willy-nilly about who they hook up with, who they've been with,
that I bet you they don't even care.
I bet you they all hang out and high five.
It's a different generation.
So I think they don't care.
Perhaps you're right,
but most people don't like to know that their buddy got with their woman and vice versa.
Like we work with a guy and I'm not going to call him out,
but we work with a guy who's happily married,
but he also got with his wife's sister.
Right?
And he does talk about that all the time.
So behind closed doors, don't think for a second,
Zach Wilson's not saying to all his buddies,
yeah, you see Dax's girl?
Yeah, I used to, that's my ex-girlfriend.
I used to get with her.
She was mine before.
It's always that you have that one-up on that.
You know what I mean?
It's still an awkward thing going on because you always have that.
Look, I dated girls that hooked up with Rich.
I never wanted to take them as serious as maybe I could have or should have
because I knew Rich would always have that in his back pocket
and he would tell our mutual friends
yeah Kavino's girlfriend I got out with her
Oh
I never said that that you're in maturity
No no no but I never wanted to give you ever
The chance or satisfaction to try to do that
So any girl that I may have hooked up with
That maybe you previously hooked up with years before
or whatever
I would have never put myself in position
For you to have that weak ass bragging right on me
You know and that's what Zach has on Dax
in this story.
Well, there's a couple layers here.
It's not all about hooking up, but let me explain.
And by the way, those couple random, as you called them chosen ones in our single days that
let's say you and I both have had moments with.
And by the way, that's a joke, but it's not.
There's been like maybe three girls ever that Rich and I both hooked up with
coincidentally in our single days.
I mean, keep in mind, we're in our 40s now.
Gross. Gross.
So it's going to happen.
But here's my question.
Is it?
Yeah, when you're rolling in similar circles and yeah, it's just that odd.
The thing is spot, you know, you talk about small towns.
This conversation doesn't apply because in small towns, if you don't date who your friend dated,
you're not going to date anyone.
There might be 20 kids in the school.
No, for sure it happens a lot.
The old village bicycle.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
You know what they're calling, by the way?
Speaking of village bicycles, you know what they're calling?
Sorry.
Abby, who dated against Zach and is now engaged to his.
old college roommate, a trollop?
No, they're calling him a homiehopper.
Oh.
Is she a homey hopper?
It is rude.
That's just rude.
But I'm giving you the story.
Like if you open up any story about Zach Wilson
on any platform today, that's the story.
I think it's rude because guys don't get called that.
Women get called that.
So I will get the women's back on this.
But there's three layers here.
But that's part of the story.
Like, hey, isn't this wrong?
Let's hear for Rich.
Champion for feminism.
Yeah.
Layer number one.
Champion of feminism in an attempt to make me look terrible for telling the story.
Isn't he great?
It's so great.
You're the greatest guy, man.
Wow, it took you 20 years to acknowledge that.
Awesome, thanks, bud.
Greatest guy.
Layer one.
If one of those random girls that you and I have both had a moment with,
what if her now husband or boyfriend gets this a long time ago?
What if that guy came home and he goes,
Hey, babe, I found my new favorite podcast radio show, Covino and Rich.
Does she tell him?
What's she going to tell?
I hooked up with both of them?
I'm just asking.
No.
You know what?
No, no, no.
You don't owe anybody that information of your past.
I'm a firm believer on that.
Is it going to do any good in your current situation?
I understand you never want to be the last to know or feel like you're the odd man out.
But if it's not going to help your current situation and there's nothing going on, that's suspect,
then there's no need to rub it in anybody's face.
Well, take it away from me and you.
The stories about Zach Wilson,
his former roommate, his fiancé, her fiancé,
there's two layers.
Is it uncomfortable?
And would you be able to date someone
that used to be in a relationship with a friend?
And layer two of this, Kavino.
Layer two is,
would you be able to seriously date someone
if one of their exes
is a bit intimidating?
Because I remember you and I met someone
once and the guy said,
yo, I don't know if I could date her.
Her ex, she used to hook up with
Shaquille O'Neal. Do you remember that?
Intimidating in many
different ways. Yes. I can imagine.
Right. Hard to live up to the
massive
personality of a
Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah.
You know, I get what you're saying.
Look, Rich, I think it's okay
to
give it a go
with someone if it's out of
great intentions if it's true love. For example, my brother, true story, recently hooked up with
his buddy's ex and it was ancient history, but his buddy found out and that friendship's over.
You know what I mean? So that's what I mean. It's like there's a lot of drama. It's unnecessary.
Did you really have to go there? Did you really have to do it? If it's in the name of love,
then I think it's fair. I do. I think it's fair. And I do. And I do.
wish we all wish Abby and Dax
a happy relationship together
but again Dax and
Zach Wilson were roommates at one point
that's Zach Wilson's X
Danny G has a story too Rich
Let me flip the script for a second
A little bit so we're talking about could you date someone
That was once with a friend of yours
I would try not to but yeah you can
Add the layer of work
Do you feel comfortable taking a job
Where you're replacing someone that got fired that you know
in the world of sports, in the world of broadcasting,
sales, anything like,
you know, let's say your best buddy John has a gig.
He gets fired and like,
hey, Kavino, you can now have John's gig.
Is that in bad taste?
Or is it like, yo, man, I got to do what I got to do.
You know, that happens in sports all the time.
It happens in life.
Yeah, you got a job to do.
I'd say you run it by your buddy.
But hey, man, this is what I got to do.
I don't think that's anything personal, right?
you're just doing your job at that point.
But it is awkward.
Zach Wilson,
I anticipate a big year from him,
and I say that because it can't get worse.
Now he's happily engaged.
And Danny G.
Aren't the reports coming back that Zach Wilson is looking super sharp in OTAs and everything?
Like he's looking like a different man?
Same reports we heard last off season.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
But Rich, you know, you did bring up the exactly, Danny.
You brought up the point that for all we know,
and this is all sort of gossip.
scandalous speculation all over social media and the internet today.
But for all we know, everybody's hunky-dory.
Everybody's happy.
They all get along.
It's ancient history.
And they're all happy for each other.
That's probably the truth.
There's a very famous story where George Harrison was dating Patty Boyd,
who was quite the looker, I guess, back in the day.
And Eric Clapton had the hots for his buddy George's,
girlfriend.
You know the story, right?
Mm-hmm.
So Eric Clapton, he's like, yeah,
you know, George is a
great guitar player, but I'm better.
And I want his girlfriend.
He wrote Layla
for Patty Boyd
and basically
stole her from George Harrison.
And they were friends.
They were like guitar compadres.
And as it turns out,
they all got along.
and George and Eric Clapton's
friendship remained
and Patty Boyd was that one in the middle
and here's the thing though
everybody looks at Eric Clapton
like yo man that's kind of messed up
writing Layla stealing his girl
and all that sort of thing
but you think George Harrison was lacking
in the women department
I highly doubt it he was a beetle
right and what about
accountability from Patty
she's the one that went with both of them
I got a sports store to tie it in
if we're talking about
Zach Wilson and his ex-roommate
now with his ex-girlfriend
you're a New York Yankees fan
why don't we talk about
Fritz Peterson
Fritz Peterson
and Mike Kekich
two former Yankees
that swapped wives
not like for one night
like they fell in love with each other's wives
and then they married the other women
Isn't there a weird fun fact
where they even swapped the dogs or something
right there is right like they swapped lives for real and it worked that's why you really can't judge
everybody does their own weird thing and if it works for them fine great grand wonderful but it is
crazy to hear they swapped out lives wives wives dogs and everything else so based on that again rich
posed a question can you date your homies girl and vice versa or do you always feel like your
homie has one on you.
And Danny G., I know you have a story.
I mean, that could be immature thinking or it could just be, like I said, I think younger kids now
are so casual with those type of things that be like, yeah, dude, I got with her.
Yeah, no cap, you know, toilet riz.
They'd say some nonsense and be like, okay with it.
Yeah, and definitely we think long and hard about things like that because like Kavino said,
You in what you picture in your mind
I'll give you an example here
Now all roads led to my better half
So I'm happy with the way it worked out
The year was 2000
The year was 2000
We survived the Y2K
Yes
My friend Tyrone and Oxnard
And earlier you did your Shriver voice
Yeah
On the mean streets of Oxnard
California
Box hard famous for boxing and rappers and beats
He had dated a girl
That was just outside our circle of friends
they were never serious.
She alluded to the fact that they never fully hooked up.
I don't know if she was telling me the truth or not.
Right.
But really cool, girl, I just couldn't get it out of my head, though.
We went on a few dates in the movie office space, kept popping up in my mind.
Lumberg.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And I think that's one of the biggest hurdles to get over is you, at least if you're a normal
person, you picturing them with your friend.
You're right about that.
Everybody has a past, right?
So any girl you're with, she was with somebody else.
And that's fine.
And that's just life.
And who cares, you mature and you don't dwell on that.
You're just happy you're with her now.
Chris Rock has a whole bit on it.
You're just happy you're with her now.
But when it's someone that close to you, it is different because you're going to have the Lumberg moment when you're picturing that dude.
And you're thinking, him?
That guy?
Ah!
And it's going to bother you.
So I really think you only go there.
Rich. If you, if it's just one of these people that you've longed for, for an eternity,
like it's destiny. I have to. Like, everyone, everyone has exes. You just hope they're not like your
boy, you know, like, exactly. Yeah. Because again, your boy's always going to have that while I
hook. Hey, I'm happy for you guys. I remember when I was there. That's weak, man. You don't want to
ever hear that from your boy. You don't want to ever think that he's.
thinking that. Hopefully your boy would never
say something stupid like that.
But you never want to think that your boy
is thinking that has something on
you, has been there before, or any
of that stuff. And we post...
Go ahead. What if it's someone you're not communicating
with anymore? Like, what if
it was like, oh, she hooked up with my college
buddy, but you haven't talked to your college buddy in a decade?
I think that doesn't matter then.
It doesn't matter as much. It matters
how close you were to that person.
But you brought up a really
crazy situation
You painted a really detailed picture.
Think of your college days.
You have your extended bunk bed, whatever it was,
that extended twin bed you had with your stupid posters up.
And you would probably position your desks to make some sort of divider in the room.
That was the privacy.
Right?
Yeah, it was the privacy you had.
But your roommate would bring somebody back and you'd hear a little,
you'd hear a little something every once in a while.
So you mean
There was a live studio audience
Yeah you'd hear applause
Wow
Yeah
Rhythmic applause
Yeah and you're
You're wondering what your roommates
Listening to
What was that?
Is that live
Live Nirvana
Unplugged?
Oh and and she must have been
Watching a horror movie
Because she was screaming a little bit
Yeah
You're like I wonder what's going on
Very scary
I wonder what's going on
The other side of this privacy desk
Are they praying?
That's weird
Why are they saying God?
I don't know
What's going on?
I don't know
But you have to imagine
When you put yourself in those situations.
She must have dropped something under the bed.
She just got down.
Anyway, hold on.
Have we all, by raising hands, have we all been there?
Yes.
I've been there.
Been there.
You're hearing things and you're pretending to sleep, right?
You're pretending to sleep and you're hearing everything.
You mean to tell me that Zach Wilson, when he was with Abby,
you mean to tell me that Dax didn't hear any action back in the college days?
I find it hard to believe.
So I'm led to believe based on everything we just figured out together.
Dax Millen of the commanders and I wish him the best.
He's a handsome guy.
I wish him a great career.
He went all in because he forever longed for Abby and truly, truly destined and loved her in every way possible.
You know.
So it's a great story of love.
I think it is a great story of love.
Because you have to look, you have to overlook a lot.
I think it's generational.
we always talk about how the younger generation
is so cavalier
they're so cavalier
they're like Donovan Mitchell
they're so cavalier about
everything
social really yeah socially related
that is true but jealousy still exists man
you still have these human qualities
especially at a young age
you know so I don't know your thoughts
and you know what the common denominator
same you know they're all very good looking
and they're all very successful so that solves everything
and that gives us the liberty to talk about it
They're all doing fantastic and they all look tremendous.
So who cares?
Yeah, they're both.
By the way, two beautiful women.
Good for Zach Wilson.
Good for both of them.
Good for all of them.
Hey, you know what?
And the end.
Hey, it's Kavino Rich in for Colin Cowherd on the herd.
Now, someone celebrates a birthday, Kavino.
I don't want to be birthday guy.
But this is someone very special to all of us.
A guy that you can't really have a conversation about movies.
You can't have a conversation about your childhood without bringing
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He's a legend.
I know you're a bigger fan of Chet Hanks.
That's the son.
The son of a legend.
I know there's some music birthdays today.
Hard to believe. Courtney Love is 60.
Jack White's almost 50.
But Tom Hanks today turns 68.
Wow.
And Camino Rich on this show,
CNN have a theory.
And I want to test it out and we'll do this next.
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Yeah!
Kovino and Rich, Steve Covino,
just a kid from Union, New Jersey,
with my pal who put the square in Franklin Square, Long Island.
Rich Davis!
What's up, buddy?
Covino and Rich, the CNR show,
in for Colin on the herd.
Always a great time.
Ready for some tacos on this Tuesday.
Ready to watch
Hard knocks later on tonight.
Receiver tomorrow.
And thank you guys for checking out our show.
Again, just search Kavino and Rich
wherever you stream your podcast.
And big thanks to everybody hanging out with us.
And Ryan on the ones and twos,
Danny G. Superproducing.
The numbers 818, 817-7509.
Now, we have, Rich loves this theory, by the way.
It's one of Rich's favorite theories.
It's a Tom Hanks theory, meaning
On his birthday, we celebrate a legend.
No person.
It's like all snowflakes.
There's no two alike.
Snowflakes, other things.
Yeah.
No two people have the same top four Tom Hanks movies.
Because he has so many good ones.
And we're going to prove the theory in just moments.
Yes.
And the fun of it is that Tom Hanks has a comedy category.
He has serious movies,
award-winning movies.
80s, Tom Hanks,
2000s, Tom Hanks,
90s, Tom Hanks.
It's impossible.
So we'll go over your Mount Rushmore's
of Tom Hanks movie
as we celebrate his birthday.
And Kavino,
I will say that
you mentioned those two shows,
receiver and hard knocks.
It's so ridiculous how it's July,
and I know by watching that,
I'm going to be so in football mode
by tomorrow,
and the next day, it's unbelievable that.
We get so into it,
and we're not even at the All-Star
break for baseball yet, but football just dominates.
Exactly. Now, I
also want to thank Ryan Music from
The Herd, but filling in
right now, for the Herd Line News,
it's our very own.
The smoothest voice in radio,
Danny G.
Turn on the news.
This is the Hurdline News.
All right, fellas, we've been
talking about how football's right around the corner.
We're all NFL, huge NFL fans
on the Corvino and Rich show.
Receiver tomorrow, Hard Knocks, Episode 2 today.
In a preview for tonight's episode of Hard Knocks
off season, while at the Combine, head coach Bill
Brian Dable guaranteed that he could run a 40.
Brian says, I could run a 40 in seven seconds guaranteed.
Now, Tom Brady famously ran his in 5.2.8 seconds.
He did recently beat that time at 46-year-old, at 46,
clocking in at 5.18.
Slowest time of all,
2004, Regis Crawford, of course, a big
ugly, a guard. He officially
came in at 6.05.
What do you think you guys could run it in,
Rich Eisenstile?
Under 7,
740? That's pathetic.
That's ridiculous.
Rich would have me by a full
stride. Last we raised, we
you know what, that's the fun part of going to these NFL
experiences and Super Bowl.
weeks where they have all these setups. They time you for stuff like this. So Rich and I
recently did something like this. Rich had me buy a stride. I give him the height
advantage. That's what that was. But Rich, what do you think? And then I'll play it
based on your thought. You know, I think I could get in the five's, high fives. I'm not
fast, but I'm not slow. I'm not some lumbering line, you know, some old guy. I play sports.
I go to the gym. I'm active enough. I think I would actually impress you. I think I'd
whoop the ass of Brian Dable
and any big old lineman. Without a doubt
you're who's the ass of Dable?
And most, who's the lineman that had a
6-5 or whatever?
His name was Crawford. Yeah, no, I'm
beating all that for sure. No rich
eyes in here. I promise. You guys
say that, but then when you actually get out there to do
it, you pull a hand.
You know, 10 seconds for me.
10 seconds for me.
Rich, what are you saying? Like,
5-2, maybe? A 5-2.40?
What did Brady do? Let's see. Brady
at first at a 5.2, a 528. At 46, he ran it again at a 518.
I'll go 5.6. Lawrence Taylor, 56. 5.6. That would make me about 5-7, I would say.
Okay. I don't like your height. No, not like my height. And, you know, for perspective, for perspective, we're in our 40s.
So I'm not dissing on Rich Eisen by any means, but no way are we that slow. But a 7 is pathetic.
All right. Earlier, we heard from Dak Prescott on the show. He was saying that,
that walking boot is no big deal.
Also, while addressing the media,
he was asked about his contract status
and going into the final year of the deal.
Here's what he said, quote,
there's been conversations back and forth.
This is via theathletic.com.
But for the most part, for me, as you all know,
I've been letting my agent do that.
The money and all that will take care of itself,
as it always has.
I mean, he's right about that.
I don't think he should be involved.
That boots not helping the optics here.
that boot is not doing any favors for anybody.
What's that a boot?
What do you guys think about this rumor that's been out there the past couple of weeks?
If Gardner Minshu is not the guy, the guy in Vegas,
what about the Raiders spending some big money to get Dak Prescott in Vegas?
I've seen people on FS1, ESPN, you know, your deep down analyst saying that
Dak is hands down the best quarterback in the NFC East.
People want to compare him to Jalen Hertz and other guys cut from the same quality.
And they're saying, you know, we underestimate Dak,
and he has the cowboy effect
where you want to make fun of him, Jerry Jones.
Like, maybe in a different surrounding,
Dak would take it to the next level.
I don't think it's a terrible idea.
All right, guys, and finally, before we get to Rich's
Tom Hanks theory, story about Leonard Frenet,
don't call it a comeback.
He says, of course, he's a Super Bowl champ.
He says he wants to come back.
He's looking forward to the NFL again.
He's looking for work. This is from Adam Schaefter.
Free agent running back Leonard Fernette
is motivated to continue his NFL journey.
He intends to sign with a team before the season starts.
He says he's in the best shape of his career,
and I expect to have a new home.
You guys, do you know his last team?
I'm looking up his age right now.
I'm sure you remember him as a jag.
You know him as a buck.
2023, he was on the bills roster.
Yeah, I just saw that.
And, yeah, buccaneers the year before.
How old is he now?
Why isn't that coming up?
Look, you could be in shape.
Are you game ready?
You know what I mean?
Like, is he in football shape?
All those years, Terrell Owens looked like he was ready for any game.
And, you know, no one wanted to take a chance.
Listen, the running back position is so deep where Danny G.
How many times do you look up your own team?
And you're like, hey, the 49ers of Raiders have like a fifth back they sign for the practice squad or something like.
The running back position is so deep and diverse now that, I mean, maybe that means Leonard
Fortnet has a place somewhere.
But it also can mean, you know, you're really going to compare.
Pete up against like fresh 22 year old legs?
Yeah, he's 29, by the way.
Isn't that crazy?
He's not even that old.
I feel like he was 39.
I thought he, again, again, a name we've heard for a long time.
I think he was much older too.
So he's a young man in life, just an older man on the field.
Yeah, 29.
He still could bounce back.
But I still stick by what I said.
He may be in the greatest shape ever.
Does he have that rust?
Is he game ready?
By the way, his 40 was 4.51.
Yeah.
You know, I think of, think of Camino how many times, how many times you hear about a player that's like, oh, they're going to make a comeback.
You're right.
Game ready versus I look ripped is different.
And I mean, I know there are other issues, but how many times they're calling for that say he's the best he's ever been, you know?
Exactly.
Yeah.
So that's what we don't know until we see it on the field.
All right.
But I wish him.
But, by the way, wish him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
It's nice to see NFL players still have something left in the tank.
And he's definitely a good guy in the locker.
locker room so we wish him the best and that is your herd line news all right well that's the news and
thanks for stopping by the herd line news that's danny g our super producer of the covino and rich show
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Now, it's Tom Hanks'
birthday, so more reason to celebrate
on this Taco Tuesday.
68, by the way.
68.
I don't get it.
What was the first Tom Hanks' experience
you had, Rich?
Oh, that's a great question,
Kavino, because my dad,
when I was a little boy...
Oh, cover your eyes, Richie.
Cover your eyes.
My dad would make me leave the room
during certain scenes of Bachelor Party.
and my dad, Greg, who listens all the time, what's up, dad?
He loved Splash.
I was just going to say what came out first.
I'm not sure of that one.
I'm looking it up.
But I remember my dad being like, oh, Splash.
Like, what is it?
Who is that?
What's the name, Hannah?
Darrell Hannah, right?
Darryl Hannah.
Oh, yeah, Darryl Hannah.
Which, by the way, you want to hear a random fun fact about that?
Darrell Hannah's character in the movie is Madison
because they ask her her name and she does some weird
mermaid sound remember?
Right.
So she looks at the sign Madison Avenue in New York
and she says Madison,
according to science.
I'm sorry, what?
According to pop culture history,
the name Madison didn't exist until after that movie.
Really?
As a first name.
Like no one was naming their kid Madison
until Darrell Hannah did it in Splash.
Interesting.
Hey, I'm like, pulling you walnuts.
Hey, but what do I know?
By the way.
Hey, hey, that's just what I heard.
Splash came out in March of 84.
The Bachelor Party came out, end of June 84.
Okay.
So same year, just a couple months apart.
So, yo, in my opinion, as a little pumpkin pie haircuted kid of the 80s,
who looked like a tattoo from Fantasy Island,
Tom Hanks came out swinging in 84, man.
That was the year of Tom Hanks.
Everybody in your family fell in love with them.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Big then came out like a year or two later?
88 big came out.
Yeah, four years later.
That was a big movie.
Money Pit was 86.
Yeah.
And of course, if we're going to talk to Hank,
we've got to acknowledge bosom buddies and his TV stuff.
He was also on happy days.
And ironically, he's the only guy that our good pal, Henry Winkler,
dislikes.
They had some beef back in the day, which is so odd
because they seem like two of the greatest guys.
I don't like Tom Hanks.
Answer the question we pose and at Covino and Rich as we can hit us up,
Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, you name it, at Covino and Rich, in for the herd, in for Colin.
To prove our point, because he's such a mammoth, because Tom Hanks is the man,
if you had to make your Mel Roshmore, your four Tom Hanks movies,
what would they be?
Because I'll give you my four.
and I can promise you
there are a different four than yours.
That's just how it is.
Yeah, but there's millions of people listening.
So if one shares in your top four,
are you guys like soulmates or something?
Yeah, you've got to make love to that person.
Okay.
Because Rich says no two are the same.
This is the Rich Davis-Tom Hanks theory.
Top four.
Go ahead.
My Mount Rushmore of Hanks.
Forest Gump.
Oh.
Okay.
I imagine that's on a lot of people's.
sleepless in Seattle.
Oh.
Apollo 13.
Wow.
And Bachelor Party.
That's the worst.
That's the worst.
Of all of his body of work,
you choose Bachelor Party?
I wanted to make it a little diverse,
a little comedy in there.
Thanks for sharing.
Okay.
So,
let's make it clear.
Rich's top four,
Gump,
sleepless in Seattle,
which I've never seen,
by the way.
What?
Yeah,
I always disliked Jay Buneer,
so I never watched that movie.
Not a fan of Seattle.
Yeah, Edgar Martinez, he bothered me.
I never liked that guy.
Apollo 13 and Bachelor Party,
no two people have the same top four
as we celebrate an honor.
Legend, and who did a few sports movies too.
Tom, Hanks, we give you our top four
and yours if you want to share.
Next, Kavino and Rich,
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Yo, as everybody knows, we're the host of the award-winning Pauley and Tony Fusco show.
Yeah.
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Quick, knowledgeable, and funny, opinionated.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What are you doing?
You're interrupting our promo.
Yeah.
He wasn't talking about you.
You took those clips totally out of context.
Oh, yeah, well, after this promo, I'm going to take you out and beat you.
Let me put this into context.
Shut up!
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Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.
I know what you're thinking.
What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?
Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
I'm Sam J.
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Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down,
and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill,
waxing all about crack in the 80s.
To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack.
I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know.
I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode
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We also have AIDS on the table right now, so.
Thank you for finishing that sentence.
I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
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Yeah.
For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
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And we're still chasing it.
And we don't know when we've done enough.
Because people scoreboard watch.
Life becomes about wins and losses.
Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you
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You know, I saved my brand new Yankees hat for this special day, Rich.
Look at this bad boy. Check it out. It's not even a hat. It's a bad boy. Look at his bad boy.
Oh, man.
Cammo.
We hardly see it. It's Cammo. John Sina? You can't see it.
But it's that digital, what do you call that?
Like that digital camo, gray and black.
Pixelated?
Pixar.
I call it digital.
Look at that.
Ooh, yeah.
For All-Star Week, Kavino and Rich, the All-Stars of Fox Sports Radio.
Filling in.
Danny said Atari, let me hit you up with a, you know, because you'd love to make fun of me because I'm always up on,
On This Day, Donkey Kong made his debut on this day.
So look at that.
A throwback to the 80s.
Donkey Kong
Great game
You know what it means?
Fun fact boy?
No
It means
Stubborn Mule
Oh
That's what
And they're like
It doesn't make sense
And then they ran with it anyway
In Japan
They're like no yeah
We're gonna run with it anyways
The whole story
So anyway
Thank you guys for hanging out with us
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But we did talk about Cooper Flagg.
Who's cooler than that guy today?
Not too many people.
Zach Wilson and all the drama and his love life.
We talked about that.
And now we're focusing on Tom Hanks because this is his birthday and Rich loves Tom Hanks.
Rich has a theory.
Who does it?
My theory is, you know, people love.
love to make their Mount Rushmore as of NBA players.
What's your Mount Rushmore of NFL quarterbacks?
You know, Brady, Montana, Manning, and who's the fourth?
People love Mount Rushmore.
So I said, there's no two people on planet Earth that are going to have the same
top four Mount Rushmore of Tom Hanks movies.
I threw mine out there.
Farr's Gump, Sleepless in Seattle, Apollo 13, Bachelor Party.
I'm reading the feedback already, and no one's matched.
So if you want to take it away, then it will go to the feedback.
It's wild how they're not, they're not going to match anyone else.
You know what else is wild about this?
As you grow, your opinions change.
For example, I didn't even like Forrest Gump when it came out.
When did it come out, 94?
Yeah.
I was all about Shawshank and Pulp Fiction.
I'm like, Forrest Gump, get out of here with this corny story.
Now, as a wiser man, I watched that in delight.
I'm like, you know what a delightful movie this is.
I enjoy it.
So I think based on your theory, my theory is,
I don't think your list is ever the same.
I bet you the last time we talked about this,
it was a different four.
That's my theory.
I think it might have been.
Because I was trying to think, well, what are my top four?
And I'm going, this time,
Big is by far his best movie, in my opinion.
Big is got heart.
It's great.
It's big.
I don't get it.
I love Big.
Classic, classic.
That scene in the toy store,
where he's on the piano?
And he invented Transformers and everything.
That was awesome.
Big.
I don't get it.
Bachelor party,
because that was my introduction to Tom Hanks.
I think it's one of his...
I love Tom Hanks.
Funny Tom Hanks.
Young, funny Tom Hanks.
80s, funny Tom Hanks is great.
So Bachelor Party,
and it had that sexy element.
He was with his bros.
Remember he was with all his bro,
Adrian Zamed?
I love...
The donkey?
Yeah, the donkey.
The whole scene with the donkey and everything.
And Tony Kattain.
So, Bachelor Party, for me.
I love that.
Cast away I'm throwing in there.
Great movie.
Because I'm thinking about like what would I actually sit down and watch if I saw it on TV?
Cast away I would sit there and watch right now.
So I don't know if I'd feel the same way tomorrow, but cast away right now.
I'm feeling it.
And I already said it.
Gump was not in my top four.
Now it is.
It's great.
I saw it recently, Rich.
And even though Jenny was the worst villain in all of film history,
It's a great movie.
And I do want to throw this out there since we're talking about it.
He has a new movie with Robin Wright, Penn, coming out in November.
November 15th is called Here.
It looks amazing.
Yeah, and if you're a Tom Hanks fan, you might shed one just watching the trailer.
All right, we're going to Ryan Music for his top four.
You know, it's really hard to come with the top four Tom Hanks movies, but I think this is,
these are the ones that I have to go with.
Bachelor Party?
Great.
Yeah. Sleepless in Seattle.
Ooh, I've never seen it.
Stop it.
Apollo 13.
Man, it's really hard to get it down to four, but I am going to have to go with Forrest Gump.
Yo, he matched my four.
We're destined.
It's never happened before.
Which means, Rich, your theory is totally bunk.
Why did we even do this segment?
Oh, man.
So it is possible to get the same.
Of all the movies, about how many movies does he have?
About 150.
Of 150 movies.
You chose the same four.
If you count all the ones he produced, too.
He produced my big fat Greek wedding and everything else.
I'm out of here.
Yeah.
Not even,
we haven't even considered the voice of Woody and Toy Story,
Polar Express.
I mean,
there's a million.
Man,
me and Ryan,
you're cut from the same cloth.
Either you're cut from the same cloth
and you're destined to be soulmates in another lifetime,
or the theory is not that awesome.
You could play along and figure it out at home.
Green Mile.
Come on.
Green Mild.
Honorable mentions, that thing you do.
You're a needers.
I like that movie a lot.
It doesn't get enough credit because he has so many classics.
And then a dark one, road to perdition.
And how about League of Their Own?
Liga their own is great.
It's one of my favorites.
Yeah, I'm surprised nobody said that one.
You know what?
We want your answers.
Do you share in Music and Riches Top 4?
Do you have your own?
Let's test Rich's theory.
We'll meet for coffee later.
I cannot wait.
I cannot wait.
All right. So thank you guys for hanging out with us. We appreciate it.
And join us at a regular time tomorrow.
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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
It's the enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast.
Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan,
so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun,
thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes.
Join us as we tackle science and culture topics
from a galaxy far, far away,
such as the biology of ton-tons and wampas
on the ice planet hot,
or the practicality and corporate business sense
of the Sith rule of two.
Listen to stuff to bowl your mind
on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
A win is a win.
A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.
Yep, that's me.
Clifford Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits,
my basketball and college football journey,
or my career in sports media.
Well, now I'm bringing
all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not
only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it.
Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
On the Look Back at a podcast.
From 1979, that was a big moment for me. Eighty-four is big to me.
I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
It was a wild year.
It was a wild year.
I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
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