The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Albert Breer

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

What should the Steelers do with TJ Watt?Possible scenarios for Nick Saban this yearGuest: Albert BreerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com. or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. A couple of things bouncing around in the NFL. About a year ago, I kind of suggested if I was the Steelers, with all the money they have on defense, I'd shop around T.J. Watt. He's mostly healthy.

Great lineage in the family. He's a great player. Eric Mangini disagrees with me, but my take is they've got so much money on defense. If you can get a couple of second round picks, I'd go for. it. Well, now there are stories that the Steelers are at least, you know, taking phone calls. Albert Breer joins us live. Listen, if you look at the division with Joe Burrow, Mar Jackson, obviously Cleveland's going to go, and they got two first rounders. They're going for a quarterback next year. You're kind of unsettled at quarterback. My take is there's about, I said this yesterday, Albert, there's about seven quarterbacks. There's about eight

left tackles and about five or six defensive lineman mostly young jalen carter jared garratt's not young i just i'm not taking a phone call on micha parsons i take a phone call on micha parsons because i'm overpaying deck so my take is 30-year-old t j wott yeah i'm going to take a phone call what are your thoughts on this i think it would make sense if they were in a different spot as a team but so much of the idea of just a Aaron Rogers in the first place was tied to getting the most out of the core that they had in place, and they've been competitive with over the last few years. And it would just, the idea of trading them for draft picks would fly in the face of why you acquired Rogers in the first place. You know, so I think if they were, again, if they had made the decision that, say, like, Miami made,

to retool the way that Miami has this offseason, or the way San Francisco has retooled this offseason, And you might look at it as an opportunity to get a lot of capital back and really kind of juice, you know, a rebuild or a retooling of your roster. But that's not the spot Pittsburgh's in right now. And so, you know, I just look at that roster and I see Jalen Ramsey and Darius Slay and Aaron Rogers. And even D.K. Metcalf is an older 27-year-old because he's on his third contract now and he's been a little beat up. Cam Haywards at the very end of his career. you just look around there and it's like, well, why do you have all of those guys in the first place if you're going to get rid of the best one of them?

You know, so I think the spot the Steelers are in right now, they need T.J. Watt. And I think the presence of Aaron Rogers is something that Watt's been waiting for since the retirement of Ben Rathosberger. So I think it's one of those situations where you can see where if one or the other were in a different spot, a trade would make sense. This would make sense a point to separate. But I think the two of them, as it stands right now, need each other too much not to find a way to get something done. So why are the Jets?

They just gave a new contract to Soss Garner and Garrett Wilson. What is the message the Jets are sending? Why now, I get the players, but what's the message? Well, both those guys had a really strong spring. And I think there's a message there that we are going to reward people who do it the right way. And I think for Aaron Glenn and for Darren Mojy, their new general manager, coming in there. That's an important thing. If you buy into the way that we're doing things, you don't need to be our draft picks. You don't need to be our signings. And, you know, it's

interesting because I think when Aaron Glenn got to the Lions, for the most part, they just brought in new guys. But there were guys that they held on to that became foundation pieces for him, right? Taylor Decker, the left tackle, Frank Ragnall was somebody that they inherited. And so you see a bunch of guys that could be that for the Jets going forward. That's not a roster avoided talent. There's the basis of a really good defense. Quinnon Williams, Jermaine Johnson, Quincy Williams, Sauce Gardner. On the offensive side of the ball, you got Garrett Wilson, you got Olu Foshano, you got Oliver Tucker, you got Breeshael. These are all guys that the new regime inherited. So if you want to get those guys on board, you know what you

do? You get through the spring. You say, we really believe in your talent. Now we believe in the person and we're going to go and reward you. And I think Wilson and Sauce are the first two examples of it. Hey, there was, there are, you know, this is the silly season, you know, little breadcrumbs of information leak out. And I saw the Nick Saban rumors. Lane Kiffin knows them well. I think you'll come back. And I don't think, I think NFL football is actually easier to coach,

as long as you don't get a crazy owner. And I also think because of the NIL, you can't just fire coaches like you used to. Teams are going to boosters. They need 15 to $18 million for NIL money. They're not paying $62 million to get rid of Brian Kelly or $70 million to get rid of Lincoln Riley. So there's not going to be any openings at the best positions. And Ryan Day is not going anywhere. And Dan Lannings crushing it.

And Sark's doing well. And Lange-Dabor is going to turn it around this year. Do you think somebody would take a call on Sabin in the NFL? You mean somebody would make a call on Sabin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. Yeah, I mean, I do. I think it's been, what, I think now 18 years since,

saving left the Dolphins to go to go to Alabama. And one thing I've learned in covering the league over all that time is no one thought the guy couldn't coach. Like the idea that the guy couldn't scheme at an NFL level, couldn't lead at an NFL level. That was zero to do with why it didn't work. It was because of the program and it was demanding and the quarterback situation didn't work out.

Because of the way he had his program set up back then, It was sort of this old school type of deal where if you don't win quickly, if you don't give players results quickly, they're going to tire of that pretty quickly. And what have we seen Nick do over the last 17, 18 years? He constantly adapts. You know, like what a Nick Sabin team was in 2008 and 2009 was way different than the teams that he had when Jerry, Judy and Devante Smith were running all over the place. You know what I mean?

So he's adaptable. He's a really good football coach. He's well respected. I think it'd be a little bit like Belichick in this way. And almost like when Tom Brady was a free agent, right? It would be a very narrow group of teams that would be looking at the idea of hiring him. Like you need to have a quarterback. You need to be in a part of the country who is comfortable with.

And you would need to have a win now roster. But if you have those three things in place, I mean, he's around the same age as Pete Carroll. So if you're an owner looking for credibility, it makes sense. to hire Nick Saban. Like if you've lost credibility in your market and you feel like you've got to find a way to get it back fast, hiring Nick Savant could be a way to do that. And maybe it would for all the reasons you laid out in the difference between college and the pro is appeal to Nick to come to the NFL. Okay, I'm going to throw this at you, Albert, and you have a sense of history. Yep. So he's the greatest college football coach of all time. He goes to ESPN for a couple years,

and he's been an absolute home run as an analyst. Got a little interesting. He's a little Mitch and there's, he's not going to Jacksonville, but Brian Schottenheimer is over his skis and Jerry Jones says, I don't, I don't want one of these NFL egos. I, you know what Jerry likes to do? He likes to hire guys where they feel like they owe him a little. And Jerry could go to Sabin and go, okay, this Schoenheimer thing doesn't work. Jaden, Daniels, and Jalen Hertz, I need a guy that knows college personnel. I'm just saying Dallas, I don't think Saban would go to New York.

But if you're talking about guy, just ego, best college coach ever, absolute five-star analyst on TV, he's not challenged, he's still youthful, sharp as attack, the Dallas Cowboys call. He's not taking that call? It makes some sense for sure, you know, and I guess geographically it's not all that far from from where he put down roots over the last two decades. I mean, the Giants are always going to be interesting

because as you know, I'm sure Colin, the Maras were fascinated with Nick. And I think there was a point in the 90s where they were trying to hire him from Michigan State. So they've had an interest in him going back that far, right? So I think it's the first one that NFL people always consider is like, would the

Giants do it because there was that interest about 20 years ago? The Cowboys are interesting because they do have a lot of when now elements. And he could come in there and really go into a place that's set up for a strong coach. And it's interesting because I think, you know, like the one thing about Dallas that people misunderstand is, yes, Jerry's involved in football,

but the coach is involved in scouting too. Like the coach is involved in putting the team together, and that's always been the way that it's been run there in that, like, they've got a really good personnel department. Will and Clay does a great job, but they've always involved the coach and how the team is put together. I think it's why they've been able to put some really coherent rosters over the last 20 years.

Really going back to when Parcells was there, the one question for me is the spotlight factor, right? And I think if Jerry was going to do this, part of it would be, are you willing to take a backseat and move away from the spotlight for a little bit to see if Nick Saban can come and do it? But for a lot of different reasons, it does make sense. So, look, I think Schadenheimer is going to do a better job than most people do. But, I mean, I just think if you want to line the whole thing up and say he needs to go to a brand name, you know, he needs to go to one of the flagship franchises, the part of the country that it's in and the way they're set up, I could see Saban working, working in Dallas. I think quite, I know this is a wacky topic, Albert.

But I think quietly, Nick Saban thinks he's a better coach than Belichick. And if Belichick goes to, so Belichick, can't win without Brady, goes to Carolina, it doesn't go well. Nick goes to the NFL, greatest college coach ever, unbelievable media star, and wins and resurrects Dallas. I think Nick deep down thinks, hell, I would have won in Miami if the doctor would have said okay with Drew Brees. And I think Nick is so hypercompetitive, it sticks in his crawl.

I really do. And I don't think it's crazy. I don't think it's nuts. There you go. I'm nuts. whatever i don't care i i like like just from an NFL reporter standpoint please come nick i would i would love to have nix same i mean that storyline would be unbelievable i don't care what team he's with like the idea of having nick saven back in the NFL just to see if it would work because he like look

like i don't think like i remember as a kid like looking back at john woodn right and thinking to myself like you looked at and i obviously wasn't born when wooden was coaching but you looked at that that track record of success at UCLA as a basketball coach, she said, no one's ever going to do that again. And Sabin more or less did at Alabama, maybe not quite the number of championship. But as far as like a run of dominance, like I feel like Saban was almost like John Wooden. So, I mean, of course, I think like it would be fascinating to see what Nick Saban could do if he got another run at the NFL. And I do, I would say this, like I, I mean, the players are thoroughly prepared for the league that come out of that program. I mean, that was always the thing with him was like, there were two things about Nick Saban

program, Nick Saban players coming out of Alabama. They were beat up because they played a physical style and practices were tough and they were maxed out. And that was actually a compliment to Sabin and saying Nick got everything he possibly could out of every player. So the NFL people all had great respect for him. And again, like his failure in Miami, I think he'd be hard pressed to find a single person in the NFL who would say he didn't win.

in Miami because he wasn't a good enough coach. Yeah. By the way, we just spent eight minutes on something that may never come to fruition. And I'm, no, I'm, I know I took a detour. I'm fascinated by it because I think Nick, deep down, wants to be mentioned in the Andy Reed Belichick group. And I did, like Jim Harbaugh, oh, he's a Michigan man. He wanted, he's two, these hyper competitive guys, Harbaugh, even at Michigan. The minute he had an opportunity, Justin Hurbaugh, he, he had an opportunity, just in Herber's available. Well, no, that loss to his brother in the Super Bowl stuck with him.

Like, you wouldn't. I mean, he was right there at the mountaintop, and it stuck with him. And the one thing the Michigan job wasn't going to get him was the chance to make that right. And, I mean, I think in the same sort of way, the picking Dante Culpepper over Drew Brees thing in 2006 has stuck with Nick Sabin. I mean, you remember, Column, they were, that was a promising team coming out of the 05 season. A lot of people thought, like, if Dante Culpeper hit and he was the player that he had been a few years earlier, that team could have been in the Super Bowl. And obviously it came undone, but I think Nick probably, I think Nick looks at the decision,

the quarterback decision of 2006, the same way that Jim Harbaugh looks back at that Super Bowl in 2012. I'm going to keep this tape. Let's archive this, guys, because we may have touched on magic, magic potion here. That's all I got to say. All right. By the way, here's my college football national title bubble. Throw this up for Albert. I don't know how good Ohio State's quarterback is, but they have the best defensive player and offensive player.

I do a Super Bowl bubble about once a month. I think Notre Dame and Bama, I don't know how good they're at quarterback. I have to watch them play. We're in. What do you make of that? Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I think Penn State's going to be really good.

Yeah. That totally makes sense. You never rule out Georgia with Kirby. Those five seem like a good five to be in there. I think Notre Dame, I think Notre Dame is going to be really good again. You know, Lloyd Carr's grandson is a quarterback there. I think he's going to be a really good player. So Notre Dame's interesting after the year they had last year.

but I think I'd probably agree with the five yeah, inside the bubble. All right. And on a high note. Especially the one in the top left corner there. That Penn State, Ohio State game is going to be one for the ages. That is going to be crazy. Great seeing you, buddy.

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philosophic about college football, man, I got some good nuggets. Headlines Friday. Just stick around. It's going to be a good one for college football. Let's start here with Ben Johnson, Colin. His plans for the offense in Detroit, I'm sorry, in Chicago dropped and he let everybody

in on a little secret. This is going to be, I like to fancy it the quarterback's offense, Johnson said. We're going to tailor this right. around Caleb Williams. It will not necessarily be what you've seen from the last three years. We're going to find out precisely what our quarterback does well, and that's what really we're going to anchor on. You like this, you love this. It's tough not to like it. Well, you have to figure out if he can play. So let's just figure out if he can play. Like I always say when you

draft a quarterback and you have the quarterback contract for four years, load up the offense. if you have, you don't want to be ambivalent about it going into year two or three. Like, can he play? So to me, this is the way to do, this offense between Ben Johnson, Joe Tune, Drew Dalman, DJ Moore, Roma Dunzee, the two tight ends. If they can't, forget the record. If they're not a top six or seven offense, I watched Jaden Daniels last year with a bad old line and no run game.

If they're not a top six or seven offense in the league, then you got the wrong guy quarterback. They have to be in elite offense. They have too many good players. So when you hear this, tailor to the quarterback. So what he didn't do well last year was avoid sacks. He took 79 sacks and giveaways last year. Colin, that's unacceptable for a quarterback.

So my guess is they're going to do a lot more three-step and get rid of it, right? Read and react. We do not want you holding the ball. Caleb, that's when bad things happen. Would you agree with that? Yeah, speed it up. I mean, one of the great gifts Brady had got rid of the ball. ball. You're never going to gain as many yards as the people you throw it to. So get rid of the

rock. Sixty-eight sacks, 11 giveaways last year for Caleb. That's just terrible. Next up, Colin, bummer news. Caitlin Clark last night did not shoot it well. And then like on the final play, she had a nice assist. She grabbed her groin area. It looks like she's not doing great. However, people are so curious. What's going on with the three-point contest? There are rumored. that she's not a rack. You know, grab the ball off the rack and shoot it. Here she is addressing all that stuff last time. Yeah, I guess I don't know how it compares,

because I've never done it. But I guess, I mean, I'm shooting off a rack, and I know there was a narrative going around that I didn't want to do that at one point, which I'm not sure who made that up, but that's false because I am doing it. I was saving my first three-point competition in my own city. So whoever said that, that was a lie.

But at the end of the day, really not that deep or that serious. So just go out there and have fun and shoot it. You know, it's just a ball of hoop in Iraq, I guess, and, you know, just have fun doing it. So the game is in her hometown, obviously. The three-point contest, Colin, I got to be honest, after seeing her wincing last night,

my guess is she's not going to play tomorrow against the Liberty. You know, she's probably going to want to give it a go, but, Colin, let's be real, this is a big picture thing. If you're telling me the fever can make the finals with Caitlin Clark or the semifinals, But she needs more time off. I think you've got to skip the game this weekend in a three-point contest, right? I would, yeah.

What's the win? If she wins, people say she should. If she doesn't and struggles, she gets, and she's, by the way, she's struggling right now with injuries. She's not getting the push-off. She won't with a groin injury, so I'd skip it. Yeah. And the Suns and Bradley Beale parted ways about an hour ago. Somebody sent me a text that we just had one of the best segments in show history when you and I went at it over Bradson.

Bradley Beal going to the paper clips, two years, $11.5 million. Essentially, he has a player option for year two. So Bradley Beal's betting on himself, hey, with the clippers, I'm going to get shots, I'm going to get points, I'm going to start, and I'm going to opt out after one year, and then I'm going to go chase, you know, 20, 30, 40 million, whatever, next year. Obviously, Bradley Beal was better than the public thought, Colin. Again, his numbers, the last two seasons, okay? Our staff came up with this.

Guys that have averaged 15 points a game, 50% shooting from the field, 40% from three. Only five guys have done it in the last two seasons. Bradley Bills one of them. So you can say he's garbage all you want, but he's actually nothing. Stats can be deceiving. Stats are deceiving. How many people want Carl Anthony Towns? Subonis, really an elite player.

You can make a lot of, well, how many people have not crosswalked in a month, No speeding tickets, they're Mario Andretti. Let's slow down on cultivating some rando stats to make me think Bradley Beal is Kevin Durant. I watched the Suns games. He's shooting 40% from three in the last two years. Yeah, that's because everybody's on Booker and Kevin Durant and he's wide open. Well, everybody's going to be on Kauai and Hardin and he's going to be wide open. Everybody would have been on Luca and LeBron.

I'm just saying, I think this is a huge win. I know he's only a three-time All-Star, and he's made a three-time All-Star, and he's made All NBA, I think once is like a third teamer. But I think you're way undervaluing. And even Aitman, I'm not just saying this because he went to the Lakers, but at $8 million, that is a steal. Colin, Ubiard's clocking like $35 million. I don't care.

I don't care about value. Give me talent. You're into value. When I go to a grocery store, listen, they're day old bagels, but they're almost free. Give me the fresh ones. I don't care about value. Give me better players. Convering food to NBA contracts now, Colin, oh my goodness.

I'm not a value guy. I don't care about value. I want players. I look at Oklahoma City. I look at Indiana. I look at Dallas. I need more elite players in their prime that can play 82 games. By the way, isn't this value similar to, hey, I could sign it with a Florida team and pay no taxes

or I go to a California team and pay a ton of taxes. Isn't that value as well, Colin? You know what's not winning NBA championships? Value contracts. That's not Yokic, you're not getting, Yokic is great and you pay a lot. And SGA and J. Dub and Chet Holm are really good. And you're paying max.

Value doesn't, I mean, I think it's great that you're getting value with Jalen Brunson. He's also one of the best small finishers than the last 10 years in the league. I'm much more into his game than I am as value. You're not going to get NVIDIA at value as a stock. I think you should own it. I don't know if I'm getting value on it. I just think with AI going forward, their new deal potentially with China, you should own that stock over the next 10 years. You're not going to get any value on it.

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and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. So one of the annoying traits of J-MAC is that he overreacts to a good or a marginal player.

So I come in like Brock Purdy, he's a good player. You know, NFL execs, scouts, coaches, polled, he's not in the top 10. He's probably closer to 15. But then I have to come in and sound like a hater when I really don't hate Brock Purdy, but that's what people think. And my take is I think he's fine. I think Kyle Shanahan and Christian McCaffrey, you know, last year when McAfrey's not around, what was his record? He wasn't very good.

And if it's overcast and Misty, he suddenly can't hold on to the ball. So same with Austin Reeves. I like Austin Reeves. He's undrafted. He's a nice player. He should be a number four in a great team. He's not as good as Derek White, who I would trade Austin Reeves for in like 15 seconds. But Austin Reeves a good player.

But Austin Reeves thinks I hate him because J-Mack has him as like Bill Russell plus LeBron James. Like, can we slow down? He's undrafted. And he's just, he got worked against the T-Wolfs. So I don't even know where this comes from. I always like Bradley Beal. I, for years, thought LeBron James should go out and play with Bradley Beale. I must have said it 100 times.

But I take a couple days off, and J-MAC goes on the air and says this with a straight face. I think it's a no-brainer. The Lakers get Beal. To me, they become right there one of the favorites in the way. Western Conference. I don't even know what I mean I give you the microphone for three days and that's what I get. I've got to react to that. And so basically JMAQ thinks this version of the Clippers is going to roll through the NBA. In fact, if you look at the picture, James Harden isn't even, you know, he's distracted looking off into the wilderness because he's James Harden. He's not even,

he's not even like, look at him. He's like, I'd rather be somewhere else. The best player there on a nightly basis is the center. So, all right. Like, he had a great, I think he's a really good player. I think Kauai's an enigma. I think he's talented, but he could call Ty Loo at 445 and go, I've got an ice cream headache. I can't play.

So I don't even know what I get with him. All right. So there's a lot here. I wish we had more time. Colin, what we just saw in the NBA this past season is depth and youth are what's winning in the playoffs. The Pacers had nine, ten guys. Yeah.

O'KC had nine, ten guys. when you can get Bradley Beal at $5 million, you're getting a borderline All-Star on the cheap and it enables you to get a better depth on your bench. So the Clippers, you didn't even see in that lineup, Bogdanovich coming off the bench. That guy started for many years. Brooke Lopez is going to be coming off the bench.

For them, that's a huge get. Chris Dunn's not terrible. Nick Patum's on the French national team, veteran, they're all of a sudden nine or ten deep with the clippers. You know who won the title this year? The starters for Oklahoma citizens. not their bench. Bench guys go on the road

and they are marginalized and reduced overnight. Role players do not deliver in the postseason, especially on the road. They're good at home. Oklahoma City was a different team on the road with their great bench. Benches don't win titles.

So what wins titles in? Russell, Shaq, Kobe, MJ Bird, Magic, Duncan. They, LeBron, they win titles. The league has changed just a little and youth and depth are what rolled in this postseason. The Indiana Pacers are a great example. They were picking up 94 feet because guess what? We got 10 guys we can go to.

The Lakers, I'm looking at their depth chart right now, Colin. Again, their bench right now. Gabe Vincent. Jordan Goodwin, you wouldn't know him if he delivered a pizza in the studio right now. You think the Lakers are a title team. Well, if they had gotten Beal, they would have more depth. Jake LaRavia is like their seventh guy. That's not going to cut it.

They need depth and scoring. and they don't have that. You lose LeBron. Nobody listening to this show can possibly think Beal takes the Clippers to a different spot. You are literally on Crazy Man Island. There's nobody in the world that thinks this except you. So you know a lot of...

You and I both know some Clippers executives, okay? They watch this show. You know Tailu right now is like doing the happy dance. He's probably going to put it on Instagram. This is such a steel. How do you not see this? I think Ty Lou thinks we just got Jessica Biel. What's going on here?

I've got to go to the trade wire. Well, that's a great Jessica Bill reference. I'm a fan of her work, obviously. Well, I mean, the Steelers got value in Russell Wilson last year. Value. I don't want value in my stocks and in my NBA stars. I don't want value. I want great.

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