The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Around the NFL

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Colin talks to Albert Breer about Shedeur Sanders, the QB class in the AFC, Matthew Stafford, the Eagles, and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Breer is now joining us live. We've got news breaking as we speak. Let's start with the San Francisco 49ers. A little Brock, pretty news percolating. What say you? What's happening there, Albert? Well, I think they're going to try to get something done, and really the question, I think, is the timeline.

There's no doubt. and there hasn't been any doubt that they want to go forward with Brock Purdy as their quarterback. But the market has materially changed, you know, really over the last few years. Now you've got nine quarterbacks making over $50 million per year. The Niners obviously have a lot of mouths to feed with their roster being what it is. And, you know, guys like Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and Trent Williams and Brandon I, Yuc, at the top of the market at their position. So how does all this come together?

And I think the other thing you've got to look at here, Colin, is the top. team's history and the way the team has handled these things over the last few years. You know, and I thought back to, you know, the Jimmy Garoppola negotiation, which was done at the end of January, believe it or not. They got that one done almost immediately after, you know, the first season, the two sides had together, the first half season they had together. You know, and since then, the negotiations they've had with their own players has been a lot more difficult. Devo Samuel, Nick Fosa, Brandon Ayuk. All those went all the way through training camp. And so that, I think, is the biggest question. I have confidence they'll get something done

with Brock Purdy. I think the question is on what the timing looks like. And is this something that gets tied up in the spring? Or are we talking about, you know, this when we get deep into training camp? I think that's the part that's uncertain about it. Okay, I said the Sam Darnold's story confused me. I think it could be Sam Darnold's agent putting it out there to create a market that the Niners or the Vikings are still kind of interested in negotiating and I'm like, okay, then why did you give

away picks for J.J. McCarthy? Is it an injury thing? It feels like somebody's trying to elevate the Sam Darnold market because now Aaron Rogers is out there. What do you make of the stories that Vikings are considering options to do the Sam Darnold contract

and it not be a franchise tag? I think that the number, The lump sum number for the franchise tag being over $40 million a year complicates it. Most teams don't want to pay that all at once. Obviously, it's not the ideal scenario for Sam either, although I do think he really enjoyed playing in Minnesota and got a lot out of playing for Kevin O'Connell. So, you know, I think the most likely scenario in this case remains.

Sam goes to the market, and then they see what Sam's market. market is and they make a decision there accordingly. They'd like to have Sam back. Okay. And I think they'd like to, but I think there's a limit to how far they're willing to go with Sam. Why not just go with J.J. McCarthy? Are there reservations about J.J. McCarthy? Well, he's coming off the two knee surgeries. And the last one was just a cleanup. So I think that that's, you know, part of the, part of the equation here. I think coming back, like, your question is going to be, is he going to be in a position to hit the ground running when you get to OTAs. And is he going to be in a position where you're going to be able to save your team, we're giving you the best chance to win at the most important position on the field? And they

have confidence in JJ. And JJ did a lot of things right. JJ pushed Sam last year. Like, in a way they didn't expect. Like, it was a real, you know, discussion point there in August before JJ got hurt. Like, you know, is there a scenario where JJ plays significant snaps? Now, obviously, the injury happens and that changes a lot of things. I think what you'd be looking at now is, you know, where is JJ's weight at? Where does he, how does he look physically coming off the injury? Because these things can take a toll on you. And so I think those are the sorts of things that the Vikings are watching right now

when it comes to determining the management of the quarterback position. And I think they're at least going to backstop themselves. Okay. Now, does that mean Sam Darnold at $25 or $30 million a year? It could. Does that mean Daniel Jones at a lower number? could. I don't think it's just going to be JJ and some run-of-the-mill backup, but I do think they've got confidence that JJ can be a really good quarterback for them in 2025.

Okay, let's get to the Stafford thing. My take is the Raiders news that Tom Brady called Matt Stafford's interesting. And here's why. Pete Carroll, say it out loud, Pete Carroll, chip Kelly, Max Crosby, a left tackle that's redeemable, even their center. They hit on last year from Oregon. I've got Brock Bowers, who is a transcendent weapon. And I'm looking at that, and I'm thinking, okay, it's indoors. They'd give him more years and more money than the Rams would. That one felt to me like I could seem, I mean, think about this.

And I know this is, I don't want to be an accountant. 13 and a half percent taxes, Rams will give you two years. No state taxes, Raiders give you four. That could be a $60, $70 million swing, Albert. I would listen to that if I was Matt Stafford, would you? I think it makes some sense for the Raiders in that I think so much of what Tom Brady is doing and trying to establish there is to add credibility to the organization. Pete Carroll obviously is a very credible head coaching hire.

John SpyTech is well respected across the NFL coming in as his GM. And I think a big part of this for Tom in working with Mark Davis is sort of reimagining who the Raiders are. and changing the way that they're perceived across the landscape of all of sports. And so part of that is bringing in the big money guys, having his own partner, Tom Wagner, part of the equation, Egan Durbin, who's the CEO of Silver Lake Capital. You've got resources, which is part of how you pay, say, $6 million a year to go and get Chip Kelly. And adding Matthew Stafford, a quarterback, I think, would make some sense from that standpoint

in that you're going to be able to get competitive quicker. The bigger question, I think, if you're weighing, the idea of bringing in a Stafford versus maybe going and making a run at Sam Darnold is, okay, like, where does this leave us in 2026? Where does this leave us in 2027? And if part of the issue for Stafford with the Rams is, well, we don't know where you're going to be a year from now, two years from now, ostensibly you'd probably have the same problem if you were the Raiders. So I love the idea of it. I do think it'll allow you to attract free agents and they've got a lot of resources there now to attract free agents. And I think this is going to be, it can be a destination

if you set it up the right way and you have a quarterback to attract people in. I think the one question, if you are going to go and acquire Matthew Stafford, if you're the Raiders, has to be, what does this look like two or three years from now? And are we close enough where we want to go and take a win now sort of swing and give up assets to do it? Okay, so this is interesting, a little wonky, but the NFLPA report card came out where the players tell you what they think of their organization. I saw the Steelers on the list of places players were not happy. And that was the one that jumped out to me.

I always thought Tomlin was a pro player organization. That one jumped out to me. Any surprises for you on the NFLPA report card about teams, players, and how they feel about the franchise? Well, I think one thing that's definitely notable is it's gotten better. It seems like what they're doing is working. You know, they showed us a whole bunch of different statistics and metrics that show that there are far fewer failing grades for teams that players are handing out. And I think a big part of that is that a lot of these guys were embarrassed by some of the stuff that was out there on their teams.

And so I do think to some degree some of that stuff's been fixed. It's interesting because I think the Pittsburgh thing relates back to one thing, one thing that I think has got to be a factor in all of these situations, and that's your team facility. I believe the Chargers jump from 30th to fifth, Colin. And I know the Spanos's have done a lot of, you know, good things over the last year. And Jim Harbaugh makes a difference. But how much that's just the building, you know, the facility? In Miami and Minnesota, one and two with two of the newest facilities in the league, I think part of Pittsburgh's problem is there in an older facility that's attached to the pit facility, the University of Pittsburgh football facility.

You share a bunch of stuff with the University of Pittsburgh. It's just not this like megaplex that you have in Minnesota or you have in Dallas, you have in Miami, or you have now at the Chargers. You know, I think so much of that survey, a lot of it is based on what your physical building looks like. Okay. And Pittsburgh isn't great. Pittsburgh has scored high in some other areas.

So I think that's one thing that definitely sticks out every year is that like is tied to the facility. The other thing that I think is interesting is most players are pretty happy with their head coaches. I believe I think someone got a B plus. I was reading one of the blurbs. Someone got a B plus and they were ranked like 24th among head coaches. So I mean if you're giving your coach a B plus and he's 24th of 32 and then you got all these players giving their owners Cs and Ds and Fs. know, it tells you that I think most the head coaches are connecting with their players, so that's a good thing too.

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So he's had to initiate offense. He'll probably go to a team without a great offensive line. There's a reason why so many quarterbacks in the NFL go to Wyoming, Texas Tech, Miami of Ohio, Cal, is that it's a real college experience. It's a real pro experience that you're really. running for your life with no run support. I think that makes Shador more attractive. Why is he falling in the draft?

It does feel like there's a gradual regression for it. Well, first of all, I would agree with you on that. Like, I think if you're in Ohio State or Alabama, like, how often are you going past your first progression, right? Like, how often are you going to number two? How often are you going to number three? How often do you have to move in the pocket to make things work to cover up an issue your offensive line might have?

I think all that stuff is 100% valid. And we've seen that with some of the quarterbacks who've come out of the powerhouse schools where they've struggled because they haven't had to find those answers that deep into an individual play or they haven't had to be as creative in making things happen. I think the issue with Shadur, and this is going to be a difficult thing for him to address over the next six or seven months or six or seven weeks, is are you special in any one area? Do you have a superpower trait? or are you an average athlete with an average arm in an NFL context? And I think that that's the way a lot of teams look at him. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't have a big arm.

So like where is the superpower that's going to make you want to take him in the top five? And I think he attached that then to what the teams in the AFC are looking up at. And that's sort of this Mount Olympus of quarterbacks, right? So if you're Tennessee picking first or Cleveland picking second, I'll borrow a term that Daniel Jeremiah used with me a few days ago. It's almost like you have to chase ceiling, you know, because it's not can this guy be a good player? It's can this guy be good enough to compete with Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,

and Joe Burrow in the AFC. And oh, by the way, when you get by those guys, you've still got more guys with a lot of upside in C.J. Stroud and Trevor Lawrence and Boe Nix and Drake Mason's a gauntlet, you know? So, like, if you draft Chador Sanders in the top five or top ten picks, could he get up and running pretty fast? I think he probably could. Five years from now, are you going to be comfortable giving him $55, $60, $65 million a year? I think that's the question.

Yeah. See, I've always argued that what you don't want to be in the NFL is it chaos at quarterback. I think Chador Sanders is a little bit like Jared Goff. If he has a good coach, he stabilizes you, that he completely. He completes passes. He moves the chains. He's not going to get in trouble. He is very accurate. He stabilizes a tire fire of an organization. And there's about seven of those a year in the league. He's not going to change the ascension, but you won't have to worry about quarterback for five years. He's a grown-up that completes passes. And that's what Jared Gough. He's out of the news, moves the chains. I don't like him in a cold weather. I don't like him against a great player. But there is something to be said. like the Raiders need stabilization. The Browns need, I mean, the bears need it. Sometimes in this league, it's not what you can do.

It's what you won't do, which is get us in trouble. Right. And that, again, though, like, it's just, are you going to be able to level up and compete in the highest level with him? And I agree, like, that he could come in and stabilize that position for a team. You know, is he going to get to a? a second contract or are you going to be left in year three or year four wanting for more and saying to yourself like is this it you know is this all we're going to get um it's sort of the

mac jones thing right mac jones was great as a rookie um they were able to get him out there and get them up and running and playing at a pretty high level pretty fast and then it was sort of like that was it with him you know and so that's the biggest question what you do her you know and That's why I think some teams view Shador is closer to Jackson Dart than maybe he is to Cam Ward. I think with Cam Ward, that's the chase the ceiling guy. Like that's the guy where it's not consistent enough, but it's gotten a little bit more consistent over the last couple of years. And you see the flashes of greatness with him. And maybe you look at him and you say, okay, like I can envision, I can envision where he's going to get there.

And he's going to be able to help us chase guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Boll. Holmes and Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, you know, versus he's always going to be like, we're always going to be the six or seven scene. We're always going to be not quite good enough. I think that's the concern with Shador. Albert Brear at some swanky hotel in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine. Hopefully Monday morning quarterbacks picking up the bill on that. It looks very nice. Nice frown molding there, very expensive. It's very nice in here. Yeah, absolutely.

I wish my earpiece was working the waste. A lot of this stuff here in the hotel is. Good seeing you, my man. Albert Brewer. All right. Thanks, guys. Yeah, I always think, because I have told you before, if I didn't do this, I'd want to be an NFL general manager, which is unrealistic,

but if I put 30 years into it like I did broadcasting, that's what I'd want to do. I always think in the NFL at quarterback, you just don't want to be a disaster. So if I can, like I always said, Kirk Cousins, you bring Kirk Cousins into your organization. Is the ceiling a low? Yeah. but the floor is so high. Like Choudur is high floor, lower ceiling. He's a grown up, he'll come in, he is very accurate, he'll move the chains.

He's not going to initiate great offense, but he's proven in college, no run game, bad old line. He's proven he'll stay healthy, he'll stay up right. He completed 74% of his throws, I think, in the last couple years with no run game. They had to throw. So it's like a lot of times just bring an adult in the room, stabilize my organization. I don't want drama. I'm going to have some drama at wide receiver. I may have some drama from my owner.

If I'm a coach or a GM, I just don't want drama at quarterback. I'll take Kirk Cousins, stabilize it. I can worry about other stuff for a couple years. I'll draft the Michael Pennix behind him, but I know I'm not going to have. That's why I was banged on Baker Mayfield. Baker, you want to put the fires out, not start him as a quarterback. So two quick things. Number one, is Aaron Rogers?

Does he fall into that drama bucket, Colin? Because last hour, I think you were saying, hey, Aaron Roger of the Rams or Aaron Rogers of the Raiders, isn't he drama at quarterback? If I need him, but the Rams have so little drama, I could bring him in for a year. Okay. It's like, by the way, when the Patriots brought in Randy Moss, like, we're structurally so sound. We're going to bring Randy in for a couple years. And by the way, Randy fit in, and by year three, he's a little noisy.

Okay, then it moves on. So second point is Jalen Hertz, when he was drafted by the Eagles, I know he went second round. Do you think anybody said, oh, the ceiling's just not high enough for Jalen Hurts? Yes. Meanwhile, he's been freaking awesome since he's been a starter in this league. So I still believe that the NFL does not know how to actively scout quarterback. They just don't get it. If the Jets got him at number seven.

So let's look at the draft order. He won't be there at seven. No way. I'm just saying, if you look at the teams, if he got to seven, what do the Jets need more than anything? Stability. Shadour Sanders is great for the Jets. Yeah, but he would have to fall to seven.

Let's see. Titans need a quarterback, Browns did a quarterback, Giants need a quarterback, Raiders need a quarterback, like, come on. Some of those might take care of themselves in free agency, but I'm almost willing to do one of these dinner wager bets with you that Shadour Sanders goes talking about. Why don't you do a mock draft tomorrow?

I'm doing one this week. Fox just hit me up and was like, we need one. Well, Collins hit me up. Why don't you do one tomorrow? Okay, I can listen to this story. Jordan Shultz. We do something fresh for herd line here. Is it about this thing?

I'm looking at Jordan Shultz? Is it a quarterback? Okay, no, it's something different. Okay, go, go, go. Tom Brady hosted Matt Stafford at his home in Montana. They went skiing. Brady has been actively trying to convince Stafford to join the Raiders. several teams are interested in Stafford if the Rams decide to move him.

The Rams, I'm told, do not want to move him, but they just don't want to give him three and four years. So can you imagine skiing, and you're getting on the chairlift, and here's Brady and Stafford flying down the hill, and you're Sean McVeigh spying on him, and you've got the goggles on, you're like, what are you guys doing today? What are you guys talking about here? They probably know it's McVeigh. You cannot lose him. All the momentum they've had the last few years with Stafford, you got to keep him.

Why are they being so cheap with him? timeout they're paying him 27 million a year 27 mil for a top 7 quarterback in the league what do you talk jack prescott's getting 60 that's a bad contract okay fine don't give me 60 give me 50 pay me like I deserve to be paid oh boy it's not like you're going to a contract negotiation that's what it sounds like you're kind of pivoting and shipping

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This is the herd line news. Fun breaking-ish news from the combine. The 49ers just announced they are already. working on a long-term extension for Brock Purdy. John Lynch just spoke about it at the Combine. Colin, here's what they had to say about Brock Purdy and his contract. We have started negotiations. We're talking.

I won't go into negotiations like always is our stance. Want Brock to be our quarterback as long as we're here and beyond. And we'll leave it at that. I think the final thing, there's no guarantees that we get something done. but my experience has been when both sides are motivated, there's ample opportunity to do so. Sounds like he's wavering. So some of the reports trickling out out of San Francisco, Colin,

are that Purdy is going to get Dak Prescott money, but it's going to be structured in a way that it's not going to hamstring the organization. I have a feeling this is going to be an eye-popping number when it comes out, and you're going to probably do two days blasting Purdy and the organization. I'm not going to blasts. That's Purdy for getting money. It's going to be an organizational choice. I don't blame Dak for getting the money.

He's not a $60 million quarterback. I don't care what the market is. When it drizzles, he's not the same guy. When it's overcast. I mean, I've seen him in rainy situations. I mean, I don't think it's that hard. I've been pretty good on the quarterback stuff. I mean, Darnold, I proved that he was actually good.

I think it's a, I think there are, I will ask you this. And I'm talking traits. what's his A plus trait? And don't give me winning. What is his A plus trait? Size, arm, movement, athletic ability. What's the trait? I would say his ability to quickly read the defense,

identify and make the right throw. I mean, he's a pretty cerebral quarterback back there in the pocket. He's a very smart. He's a smart guy. Yeah, I think that's right. And I hope that's worth 60 large. Because I'd like to see some physical trait that I can't duplicate. So I know you have Purdy as a top 10 quarterback in the league.

No, I don't. Oh, you don't? Okay, top 15. Yes. Does he drop further should he get 60 mil? Because I think the contract does matter for some of these guys. He was awesome on the cheap. How's Dach looked now that he hogs up, you know, 20% of the salary cap?

How does Dallas look? Yeah, not great. Yeah. You have to basically hit on every draft pick, which, by the way, Dallas hasn't. So Philadelphia pays everybody, but they've hit on like six straight defensive draft picks. The Rams, when you hit on draft pick after draft pick after, I mean, the Rams, literally pay nobody on defense. So you can, they can afford a pay stapper.

But, but I mean, Dallas last year, I look at that draft. Yikes. Did anybody hit on that draft? Zach Martin just retired. Yeah, it's not looking great. But, you know, for instance, like, would you rather say Kirk Cousins, come on in on the cheap? I'm talking like, you know, let's say the Falcons dump him. Kirk, Falcons are paying your salary.

We don't want to really pay you anything. We want the Russell Wilson deal. Whatever the league minimum is, you're playing for that. Would you rather take Kirk Cousins on that or Brock Purdy at 60? Because how is that not in play for the Niners? Why don't we just say no thank you to 60 Mill and we'll take Kirk Cousins super cheap because the Falconsum? Well, then you have to hope cross your fingers that you can find a quarterback over the neck.

I mean, they missed on Trey Lance. They also like Mack Jones didn't draft him, so they would have been 0 for two on the two guys they liked. So that was the quarterback COVID class, so that was a wonky draft. But I always think I'm not anti-Brock, but he is much closer to Baker Mayfield as a pure talent than he is Josh Allen. So let's make the pay somewhere around Baker. If you can't get there, I have to consider drafting another quarterback.

I mean, if I'm San Francisco this year, I'm going to take a Riley Leonard in the third round, and I'm just going to see how it looks. Because I'm telling you, that is all you fan boys for Dak Prescott, you're a dead franchise. I mean, Dallas is dead. And it would be different if last year they went five for five with their first five picks. And then you'd be like, oh, we found an edge rusher and we found the number of two receivers. But you have to start hitting on like about 90% of your picks. It's tough.

Once you pay, even Kansas City, you miss on one first round pick. That running back they picked from LSU was a miss. Edward Taylor. Okay, you just can't miss on guys. You can't miss on Sky Moore. The Eagles are not missing. That's right. The Rams, the lions are not missing.

Arguably three upwardly mobile teams that have deep roster. All right, let's go to the next story, and that is the Bengals. Man, this is going to be a chatty month here ahead for the Bengals, right? Jamar Chase is looking to get paid. T. Higgins wants to get paid. Don't forget Trey Hendricks and their best defender. Well, yesterday at the Combine, Director of Player Personnel, Duke Tobin, discussed bringing back both of their stud receivers. Jamar is always going to be our priority.

He's a fantastic football player. He's going to end up being the number one paid non-quarterback in the league. We're there. Let's get it done. I think T. Higgins is a fantastic football player, and I want him on my football team. Whenever I'm in charge of a football team, I want T. Higgins. And so I'm going to do what I can to get T. Higgins. Our preference with T. Higgins is to do a long-term agreement.

Always has been. It continues to be, and we'll work hard to get that done. Now, there are another organization that I like when I'm, hearing, but they have to hit on some draft picks now. They've missed on some old line picks. If they, again, if Cincinnati comes out and goes four for four with their first four picks, then you can, you can, I have no problem taking big swings on, on contracts. But it does put pressure on the scouting department and the scouting director and the GM to hit on

picks. So a couple things. We have a list of the highest paid non-quarterbacks in the league, which is what he said Chase is going to get. Colin, there's some really good players on here who. didn't make a playoffs last year. CD Lamb is the second highest paid non-poena. Well, you hit on something years ago. The wide receiver bubble.

Yeah, yeah. And Nick Mosa did not make the playoffs. AJ Brown was instrumental. Chris Jones good. Amara good. Tyreek Hill missed. Ayuk got hurt. And it gets worse.

T. Higgins saw these comments, right? Where he's like, oh, T. Higgins, well, he just put a baseball cap, which among the young people, you know, you know, like, because you say stand-on business. Cap means you're lying. That's not true. And he's calling out the Bengals like Derek. It's a shame Ryan Music's not back.

One of the reasons I never wear caps, because I'm always telling the truth. Honesty broker, right? That's right. Never see me in a cap. T. Higgins, well, I'll put it, you want to predict it now? I don't think he plays for the Bengals. I don't know where he's going to be. He's going to have options.

I mean, Patriots get him. I think New England feels like the fifth. To me, New England's the fifth. Probably with Drake May. Maybe they get Travis Hunter. All of a sudden you get T. Higgins, Travis Hunter, Drake May. There's something there. Final story, Colin, is your guy, Anthony Richardson. Oh, boy, two seasons. Hasn't been great. A lot of injuries, a lot of poor play, a lot of bad missed screen passes. At the Combine, GM, Chris Ballard talked about bringing in a quarterback this offseason to create competition and serve as insurance for Richardson's availability. It's got to be the right guy to create real competition, but we want to create real competition. I think it's good for the team. I think it's good for the team. I think it's

good for Anthony. Like when we drafted Anthony High knowing it was going to take some time, all right? And we knew there's going to be some hiccups along the way. You know, I know we all want to finish product right now. I do. You do. Fans do. We all do. But I think as he continues to progress in his young career, us adding competition, I think will help up everybody's game. Yeah, he should have competition. I didn't realize. 47% of the No, it's a T-Bo issue in that there's some athletic things you like. You like the person. You like the kid.

You like the work ethic. But you've got to, the line in the league is you've got to get the 60-61%. If you're below that, then you have to be so extraordinary as a runner, which he is, but he also gets dinged up. You're telling me, Tray Lance couldn't put up these kind of crap numbers? Come on. Well, I think Anthony is, he's a better athlete than Trey. Certainly, yeah. But, again, that doesn't help him complete screen-patch.

There's a lot to like about him, but in the end of this league, he, he, Anthony Richardson is the opposite of Shadur Sanders. He's got everything but the accuracy. Shadur is missing a lot of big arm and big, but he's really accurate. So, and the, and the truth is, I am, if you can complete, that's why I've always said with Kirk Cousins, stable, accurate, I can win a lot of game. I can win a division. It may not, I may not win the best division. But I can, there's always a couple of divisions.

that you look at and you're like, like, C.J. Stroud, he can win that division. I don't think C.J. is going up against Burrow and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I, I think, Anthony, you got to get the accuracy to 61. What if the Colts made a run at Russell Wilson? What's the, Wilson? Why? They need to create competition. Ross is a grown up. He's a mature veteran. No? They're bringing in somebody, Colin. That just, that just, that feels like you're bringing in a bunch of stuff that will be headlines and media. I don't want to. Her cousins? I don't think that. Cousins and Anthony are two different players.

The offense would look different from one to the next. Sam Darnold? That would be more than the competition. He would be their start. Sam Darnold, Raiders or Colts is the answer. If the Colts go Sam Darnold, they're saying we're done with Anthony Richardson. And I think they would compete for the division. No question. Sam Darnold to the Colt is the play.

Are you done? Yes, sir. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping back. The Heard Line News. The throw it out there again. The kids are saying this is the greatest list ever compiled in cable television history.

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By the way, 3 and 1 on college basketball picks last night. Give me one of the ones you picked. Last night? Yeah. I missed on Tennessee, but the others hit. It was like a couple of money-line parlay. Listen, man, it's not that obscure. I'm going for bigger games now.

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