The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Bills are not beating themselves anymore, Urban Meyer

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Colin breaks down more from the NFL Divisional Round playoffs. Former college head coach Urban Meyer breaks down the college football championship game betwen Notre Dame and Ohio State.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to The Heard podcast. Earlier fans, you know, the games mean more, the intensity is more. A lot of fans are talking about Kansas City's getting the home calls. J-MAC is all over this. They're getting the better calls. But I tended to think years ago, when New England was dominating, you'd say to yourself, well, they don't turn it over and they don't get called for a lot of holding.

I remember there was a time that New England never fumbled. Like everybody else in the NFL fumbled at a certain rate, New England never fumbled. Well, they've got to be using stick them. Like, well-coached teams don't get penalized heavily. more mature older as Josh Allen's gotten older. He's a more mature quarterback. So, I mean, you start looking at this Buffalo team. Josh Allen, veteran, Dionne Dawkins, veteran, Milano, veteran.

A lot of their best players now, Dawson Knox. Like, you just get to certain players, you look around and you're like, oh, those defensive linemen have been around a while. And Matt Hasselbeck talks about, listen, is Hasselbeck leaning into some of these heads that make it look like it's roughing? I get fooled by him. I was fooled. I think they're roughing.

Here's Hasselbeck earlier. I will never criticize officials. It's bang, bang. You're trying to do the best you can. It happens in real time. I think our officials do a really good job, actually. But we're using replay assist for all this other stuff. And there's only one game going on during the playoffs.

It's not a one o'clock game on a Sunday during the regular season where there's so much to watch. You've got to get this right. We have slow motion. We have high def. We have replay assist. That's where I'm saying like, hey, now listen, I also would say watching the Baltimore versus Buffalo game the next night, you can't tell me that those officials didn't just let those guys play.

It was a completely different game, how it was officiated. The consistency was not there. I saw an official get knocked over to the ground after a late hit on a fight. Nothing happened. Like, they weren't even calling PI. So, like, to think that, like, there wasn't some sort of conversation like, hey, we maybe over did it? By the way, let's go to Urban.

Meyer, because there's a Buckeye officiating question I have. So Ohio State, 728 straight plays that Ohio State's defense has been on the field, and it's a very good defense, and there hasn't been a holding

call on any offensive line over those 728 games. So you got Sawyer, you got NFL bodies, so you tell me is that something Ryan Day is saying to the officials, guys, I got first round defensive lineman. You're telling me

728 plays. Nobody's held us once. What do you do as a coach? No, you certainly you call it into the head of the officials and then the other thing is you just worked a game constantly and I've done that before and you know, act like there's a conspiracy series

against Ohio State. That's silly to think that. But the numbers are pretty, when I saw that today, I was like, man, that does not make sense. But you watch him, he'll constantly worked the officials throughout the course of the game. And that's how, I don't know if I ever heard that staff before.

What's the biggest advantage the Buckeyes have tonight, coach? Their defense. Ohio State's defense is incredible. I was talking earlier today on Big Ted Network about Ryan Day and Chip Kelly to manage a game and to call the game when you know your defense. You score three points, three touchdowns. You're probably going to win.

and I think their highest deep defense is elite. I think Notre Dame offense, you know, they're a decent running team. Their quarterback has been their number one ball carried the last three games in the playoffs. They just really struggle throwing the ball that. I used to tell our offense this, Colin, when we had a defense like that, get us two first downs every time you touch the ball, we'll win this game. That means you're always making them play the long field. And it's great to manage a game when you have a defense like this.

What do you make of Riley Leonard as a prospect? I like him. I've been saying this all year. He's the most underrated quarterback in college football. Everybody says I'm out of my gourd. I don't love his throwing motion, but he's big, tall, athletic. He's kind of relentless. He's tough.

He takes shots. He's a leader. What do you make of him as a – can he play on Sundays? What do you make of him? Yeah, I don't know about that. I love Riley Leonard. I love it. You know, there's two ways I used to evaluate a quarterback.

Number one, do they elevate those around them? Check, yes. Do they get first downs? And he'll get him any way possible. Running, you saw that the time he launched himself for the first down and the final drive against Georgia. However, I also have had some great quarterback struggle in the NFL because it is a whole different animal now.

You've got tighter. I don't know if he can hit those tight windows like you have to hit the NFL because you're facing, you know, this will be the best defense that Riley Leonard's played. Imagine that every Sunday. So I'm skeptical that he'll be a starter. I think he'll make the NFL because he's such a tough kid and a winner. But to be a star in the NFL, I am skeptical about that.

Ohio State's been much more aggressive since the Michigan loss. Is that Ryan Day looking himself in the mirror? Is it Chip Kelly talking to him? This off, they've gotten very aggressive. What's happened inside the room that I don't see? The film room, sitting down going to lunch with Ryan Day and Chip Kelly. What turned it for Ryan? Well, there are two criticisms that were very justifiable against that Wolverine and the robbery game.

And number one is the Wolverine's strengths. They've gotten very creative. You can see in the scripts, they usually script about 10 or 15 plays to start the game. Our boy, Jeremiah Smith is in that script. He's getting the ball early and often. His best players are getting the ball early and often, and they're not playing between the tackles. They're playing outside the tackles, and they're throwing the ball,

which is their strength. I think they're the strongest, you know, they're the best perimeter team in the country with their skill set. So that's what they've been doing. And then also, once they cross the 50-yard line with this defense they have, you get real aggressive. Because even if you turn it over or if you have to punt, that's a win because that offense is starting.

Your opponent is in the offense, is start deep in their own territory. If you are Notre Dame, you can't match up with Ohio State offensively. If you're Notre Dame, they have very good corners. I mean, the last couple of years, they got NFL players. Would you roll the dice on Smith on the outside and say, listen, we got to load the box up, we've got to force them to beat us over the top. They're not going to grind us and keep our offense off the field.

Like, how do you, how would you defend Ohio State's offense when you have a perimeter player that might as well be an NFL player playing on Saturdays. Yeah, that's a great question, Colin. I would not. Al Golden is a friend of mine. He's an excellent pitch. They play the most-man coverage in America, but they have not faced anything close to this.

They've not faced a great quarterback. Georgia was a shell of themselves, and Penn State, the receivers just aren't typical Penn State receivers, so they've not faced anything like this. I would change. I mean, this is pretty drastic. You've had over a week to prepare for this game. I would come out with the Wolverine defense.

That means play too high, force them and challenge them to run the ball and rally up and keep the ball in front of you. I would not. Now, I know they have very good players on defense, but you play man coverage against this Ohio State team, a consistent dose of it. I'm not sure this game. They're going to score a lot of points early in the first half.

The other way, I think you keep the ball in front of you. It's a little bit against what Notre Dame has done in the past, this year, but they've not seen anything like this as far as the offensive skills. So no, I would not play. I would not sit in man coverage against this Ohio State team. By the way, you were a big underdog very, very infrequently. In fact, I can't remember ever, when you go into a game, and it's a big game, and you are a prohibitive favorite, how does that not get in your head, Urban? I mean, if you have an early turnover and just say, guys, come on, we're getting a little, we're losing ourselves here. When you go in as a big

favorite in a big game. Does it somewhat psychologically change if things go a little sideways early? Well, we were a big underdog ironically against Ohio State when I was at Florida in the 06 national championship. I didn't

believe it as a game got closer, but we were over a touchdown underdog and does it get in your head? Yeah, it pisses you off if you're the opponent. I use that, I mean, my gosh, our players got tired of hearing it, reading about it. But I've also been a big favorite. And that, you know, I'd much rather be the favorite because that means usually got the better team, better players. So if you're the

underdog, I mean, if I'm Marcus Freeman, I'm beating that up because there's nothing quite like coaching a pissed off football team. And if he can get Notre Dame to play like that, you know, this could be a street fight. Yeah. How many scripted plays, if you're Marcus Freeman and you think to yourself, I got a little better quarterback, I got a playmaker. I want to let him be an athlete. Andy Ritoa says that. I want to coach you. I don't want to coach the athlete out of you.

So I'm Marcus Freeman. I'm coming into this thing. I'm like, listen, we don't have as good as stock as they do. We don't have as good of players. So I got to let Riley make some stuff happen. I got to let my playmakers, and I don't have a ton of them. How many do you script if you're Marcus? You say to yourself, I'm going to script you about six,

but kid, some of this stuff's going to have to be you. I mean, what do you do if you're Notre Dame and Freeman, knowing we don't on paper, I may see a score and a touchdown. How do you generate? Is it tricks? Special teams, by the way, coach. Do you come in and say, we got some explosives on special teams? That's an advantage to me, Marcus Freeman may have.

Like, I know I got to take risks and I'm comfortable if they fail. Well, you look at what they did against Georgia. There was a 7-7 game and there was a 14-point flip within 54 seconds. What happened? The universe Georgia made a mistake. tried in that two-minute drill, tried to force when they shouldn't have. They had a backup quarterback, and they weren't, you know,

they haven't played Grady all year on offense. And what happens? They turn it over. Notre Dame scores on the short field. And then they hit the kickoff return for a touchdown. So special teams, Ohio State is a very conservative special teams. They don't return their kicks. They rarely go after the punts. So I would, if I'm, and I know Marcus Freeman well,

he's thinking this is an advantage. So that's one of the few advantages that they have. The other thing is, yes, you have to somehow get an extended drive. How is that a fake punt like they did against Georgia? So I would expect, and I'm glad you brought that up, I think the viewer can expect at some point. I bet he's got four momentum shifts on his game plan, and a momentum shift is a fake punt or some type of reverse,

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But I'm also close with Marcus Freeman. I spent several years at Notre Dame, and I got so much respect for that school. So I'm really happy these two teams are playing it. But do I get nervous? No, man. I'm talking to Colin Coward a couple hours for the game. Sometimes I get nervous for these young players. You know, maybe it's my age.

But I'm like yesterday with Josh Allen and Lamar, I felt so terrible when Lamar threw a pick. I'm like, oh, I love this kid. This is Ohio State Notre Dame. That is big-time college football. I know there's been a lot of NIL and a lot of transfer portal and a lot of stuff that drives us crazy. By the way, if you talk to Belichick, what does he make of the first couple weeks on the job? I have not. I texted him.

He did not hit me back. They might have a different number now, but I saw some pictures of him in a shirt and tie and sport coat, you know, on the road recruiting. And I can't wait to talk to him at some point. I say, my gosh, man, do you really enjoy that and going to the kids home and all that? So he's probably great at it because he's great at everything he does and he's going to adapt well. So, I mean, that's going to be a great storyline to watch what happens with coach.

Have fun tonight, coach. Ohio State, Notre Dame. I like the Buckeyes, but I think Marcus will have a trick or two up his sleeve and make it close. And good talking to you again. I appreciate it. Always, Colin. Thank you. Yeah, favorites win this game.

The favorites in college football, because remember, in the NFL, you got salary caps, and there are certain mechanisms that keep sort of rosters close. That's not necessarily the same. And then when you put jet fuel, Ohio State already out recruits Notre Dame. They have historically. Ohio State's the best northern. program in recruiting in the country. They recruit like Georgia and Alabama.

They've always out-recruited Michigan, on average, out-recruited Penn State. Ohio State's an SEC team basically just up north. But when you add jet fuel with the NIL and you can go steal Caleb down from Bama and you can go grab the best players elsewhere, I mean, you watched, when you watched Ohio State play Tennessee, and Tennessee looked intimidated. And when you watched them play Oregon, and Oregon's like, It's like getting in the ring with Tyson when he was like 22.

It's like, I don't know if I'm ready for this. Ohio State has just has a volume of athleticism. I think that, and I think it's fascinating how bad they were. I was watching that Michigan-Ohio State replay. I was watching highlights of that over the weekend. How they lost that game, I'll never know. J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. We spent a lot of time talking about the great Saquan Barkley in Philly's win, but we haven't spoke much about Jalen Hertz's knee injury. Colin, this looked pretty damn ghastly. I thought he was done for the game. Yeah.

The way it bends back and you could just see the grimace on his face. He took a pretty bad safety after that where he could not even, he didn't even try to run away from anybody. He came back with a knee brace. Hertz is not really giving any clarity on the injury. Here he is after the game. How do you feel physically? How do you feel physically?

How do you want the medical temperature? that has come out of the game. It's a tough game, a challenge a game. I was able to finish the game and see how the wood goes. Yeah, and there's a clip of him limping down the tunnel after the game. I saw that. And I think that's probably why there was some early money on Washington just as a hedge in case. Look, it hurts here.

That's not a guy who could play. I mean, come on. Now, it was freezing, and he got dinged up, and, you know, they'll probably shoot him up with some stuff, and he'll be fine. But any concern here, if this has become the Kenner? Pickett game? No, absolutely. I think... Or McKee?

First of all, Washington. There is a... You know, it's really funny. I remember talking to Bill Romanowski about this, the legendary linebacker. There are playoff games. And then there's the conference championship game. And it's like, oh, this nerves.

And then there's the Super Bowl where a lot of players in their first Super Bowl don't remember the first couple series. Like, it's just a blur. Brady could get tight. But conference championships aren't that because, you know, you have a home and a road team, but conference championships can feel different.

And you've seen, I just think Washington, this Philadelphia roster has so many guys that have played in big games and they're at home. And they're not playing well, and they're controlling the Rams and the Packers and not playing. And then I get to a point where they're not playing well because this is what Philadelphia is. They're not brilliantly coached.

You don't get a game like Buffalo where you're like, man, They are just no penalties, no turnover's absolute game plan. I think Philadelphia, you've got to be honest, they're going to let people have a chance. The fact that Rams, complete a ball, you take Jalen Carter out of that game. Rams could have won that football game. And there's no short week. Stafford's a bad outdoor cold weather quarterback. Kieran Williams fumbles.

I mean, that game was there for Philadelphia to blow them out, and they couldn't. Yeah, it's weird. Kellamore I didn't think was exceptionally great calling plays. That being said, I thought Hertz did a good job at the line, changing the play. Hey, they're playing a light box. We're going to just hand it to Safe One. And the guy had 200 yards on the ground again. The Washington defense was not great against the Lions. Like, they moved up and down the field.

Goff just kept screwing it up. I don't see Hertz making those same mistakes. And if you notice, Eagles are playing it safe in the Red Zone. I think they were 0 for 2 in the Red Zone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like, oh, we'll just kick field goals. We don't want to turn over. they're playing it a little cautious.

I wonder if the Daniel's fourth down stuff. Well, he's dynamic. But here's a thing. Changes the equation. When you've got the better team, there's no reason to take big risks. I was thinking about this.

I was thinking about this. So let's say Mark Andrews catches that ball and Buffalo doesn't score and you go to overtime. Who did you like? The Ravens would have had the momentum at that way. There's no question.

So it's really, it was really interesting. because I was thinking if they went for two, I thought, man, if I'm Buffalo, I got a minute 33 left. I am aggressive as hell. I'm not, I don't want this puppy. I know it's at home, but the total momentum was Baltimore. So it's interesting when you get into this two-point conversion stuff, to your point with Philadelphia, they know they've got better players than Washington. There's no reason for them to take big swing. Take the points.

Take the field goal. I do think you coach differently if you're Ryan Day tonight. and all of a sudden Ryan Day grabs himself a 13-3 lead. I could see him saying, guys, there's no reason to throw the ball over the middle in a pass rush. Let's shut it down and run the ball.

I do. The cool thing about the NFL now is you can go on YouTube and watch the other Eagles, Washington games. They condense it and show you all that meaningful plays. But the Eagles have who I think is maybe the best linebacker in the league this year. Zach Bond, 53. He's everywhere.

Everywhere. I think you just have him spy Jayden Daniels, right? You have to. He's one of the few that can keep up with him. And I think the Eagles probably have this game, right? But betting against Jaden Daniels has been a fool's a ball season. I finally got hot. I had a three on weekend.

I like Buffalo plus the points, and I like Philadelphia to cover. Yeah, I think that's a good early read. I'm probably with you on both of those. Next up is, oh yeah, Jared Goff. Three interceptions. Two of them in the red zone. I mean, just really bad passes. Also lost a fumble.

His first pick six of the season. Colin, he was 30% off target, his highest of the year. This was against the Washington defense is nothing special. And he's also an experienced quarterback with a great O-line and run game. Off a five-week. Yeah, I thought it was a, I thought Jared, and I'm an apologist, I thought he really was off. And again, it'd be different. Like Sam Darnold has a week-o line and doesn't have a great run game.

So when Sam Darnold is going to Detroit or Los Angeles, he's got to make plays. when you're playing Washington and that defense, my take is I would have gone into the game as Jared Gough. Just don't make mistakes. Eat it. Go down. You have the better run game. You have the better O line. You're at home.

I thought he made a couple of throws. I'm like, Jared, one in the end zone. It's like, Jared, what are you doing on that? He did get, I think it was a concussion. Is that why Bridgewater came in? And, you know, it instantly brought me back to that Michigan, Ohio State game when Will Howard took that shot early. And he never looked the same in the rest of the game. Michigan, Ohio State.

And Goff, I didn't think he was particularly sharp. I don't know if he was impacted by. I haven't heard him talk about it. But Penae Sewell defended his quarterback after the game. I just don't understand how a team sport put a blame on one person at all. It's not like he's the one out there, you know, by himself type. So it's just like I'll never understand it. But again, that's not my world.

than what I pay attention to. I got to totally disagree with that. It was Jared Goff dropping back in the pocket and making horrible reads and not recognizing the pressure and coughing the ball up in the outside. You do go into games with a certain psychology. Like if I'm Lamar Jackson

and I'm going into a game without Zay Flowers and I face Josh Allen in a loaded Buffalo offense, I probably would take more risks. If I'm Jared Goff going into this game with my own line and run game, I'm really going to swallow it. I'm going to go into the game, say, I'll probably have three or four balls.

I'm just thrown out of the end zone. Do you think he got a little tight and nervous because the defense couldn't get stopped and they were playing catch-up the entire most of the game? In the second half, certainly. I almost felt like he felt the pressure was on him because the defense, I mean, Jason Dan was just shredding them. I think they were five-for-five in the red zone.

It's like, can't get a stop. I've got to do a lot to help our team, and he tried to do too much. Final story, college football. Steve Sarkesian, the great Texas coach, reportedly turned down the chance to interview with two NFL teams, unnamed, and sign an extension with Texas. We don't know the full contract details yet. It's the second extension in two years for Sarkas base salary jumps. Wow.

From 5.8 million to 10.3 million. That's not bad. He's kind of earned it, though. He's put Texas right. I remember Texas was way down. People forget, like, five years ago. They were borderline laughing stuff. Well, they, this is a financial machine.

If you can get to the playoff every year, that's the richest athletic department in the country. So the Texas can pay as much as any NFL team. And I mean everyone. They got the best athletic director in the country. They make money in college baseball. I mean, this is a machine in my state school of Texas. My take is the playoff, the 12-team playoff, which is reportedly going to be tweaked to 14. it's going to make coaches richer.

Because how are you going to fire a guy if Sark says, well, I made the playoffs six years in a row. And I made the national championship game twice. You can't fire him. It's why guys like Jim Beheim, you know, they win a nanny, but Jim Beheim could say forever, well, I've made the tournament 28 years in a row. What are you going to do?

Now, how many teams make the tour? Well, I mean, but even if you're Texas, you're not, Kaelin DeBore's. Let's say for the next four years, he makes the tournament in the FCC. He makes it every year. You're not going to get rid of it? Okay, so is the opposite true?

If Sark doesn't make the playoff next year with Arch Banning, what are you running out? He just signed a new contract. But I think anytime you have these expanded playoffs, I think coaches love them. Because once you only have a four-team playoff, it's very easy to go, well, you can't even get into the playoff. And we know so much of it is scheduling and health. So I think a 12-team playoff is going to make college coaches at the top schools. as rich as NFL coaches. So what becomes the baseline for Sark?

You must make the playoff. Yes. Period. Yes. Not like Final Four. No. I think there's about five jobs in the country where you have to make the playoffs. Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas. Probably Michigan.

In my opinion, LSU, that's my, LSU is a factory. I would say LSU is going to make it three out of four years. I think those five. Clemson, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma. We need you to be there regularly. I mean, with Phil Knight's money, Oregon needs to probably make it. But like SMU made it, okay?

They may not make it again for another 10-50. That's fine. That's possible. But they still made it, right? But the jobs that you have to make it, let's just say five out of six years. Texas, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State. I think you got to put Michigan in. The Michigan.

The number one the title. Michigan does not. They just give a quarterback $10 million. recruit at that level. They never have Michigan recruits B plus a minus. There's like five schools. I think it's LSU. LSU,

Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas. When they're rolling, they recruit different than everybody else. Now, you can Michigan, Notre Dame. No, no, no. Michigan, Notre Dame recruit well, but not everybody can get into Notre Dame. Academically, there's just a percentage

of kids that can't get in there. And Michigan is never quite recruited at Ohio State's level. Ohio's got more good players in their state, high school players, than Michigan. I mean, so how did Harbaugh have 75 guys drafted a lot or whatever the record? Well, because Harbaugh's an elite all-time coach, and for the record, it took him a long time to get there. I mean, Urban Meyer took over Florida and Ohio State, and 45 minutes later, you're like, they're stacked. It takes longer at Notre Dame and a Michigan to build that thing up. And Harbaugh also is a great developer of players.

That Michigan team was easily his best team, and it was a lot of upper class. Remember Harbaughal with Colin Kaepernick? How was Kaepernick without Harbaugh? It's like, I mean, Harbaugh just makes people superstars. Yeah, it's great. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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By the way, great catch by the staff. We were talking about Michigan's never really recruited as well as Ohio State. or LSU or Georgia, Texas. Harbaugh on the Michigan National Championship team were 14th in roster composite ranking, the lowest ranked team to win a natty in the college football playoff era.

So he recruited three and four star guys and developed them into a great unit. So we had Matt Hasselbeck on earlier. And we're talking about, you know, Philadelphia is weird, like they had 65 net passing yards, but it was bad weather. They felt they had the better roster. They probably came in.

with a bit of a conservative game plan. I think I would if I was Philadelphia. You looked around and you're like, we got better players. We're at home. Stafford's never, he's not mobile. He's not very good in the road in cold weather games. And Matt Hasselbeck earlier,

that worked against the Rams, but Jayden Daniels is different and why they got to step it up. He's got a great leadership style. He doesn't care about leading in stats, you know, in terms of the passing game. But I think they've got to be better. They got to be better in the past.

game. I'll just flat out say it. The quarterback that they're playing is amazing as a runner and as amazing as a thrower. And that's not just on Jalen. The guys around him got to step up. It was bad weather. This weekend, it's going to be bad weather probably the next weekend. You got to catch the ball in bad weather. He's got to raise his game and be at his best. Do I think Philly can, you know, not fly Eagles fly, Ron Eagles run to the Super Bowl? I do. But at the same time, they do need more out of their passing game. I know they say they could do it if they wanted to. You're going to need against Washington, in my opinion. Yeah, and I mean, I think there's sometimes you see things in sports that you've just never

seen before. And I think, you know, when you look at Philadelphia, they're going into this game against Washington, and they should be favored, and they are favorites. But then you have Jaden Daniels, and we've just never seen a rookie like that. I mean, Jaden Daniels was good this year. But he had a three-game losing streak, middle of the season. And, you know, remember about Jaden, what's funny about Jaden Danyls is, he was one in three against like playoff teams at LSU.

They had great receivers. So we were all kind of like, is it him or the receivers? He was good at Arizona State. He wasn't amazing. He was really good at LSU, but he was a little thin. He got banged up in the middle of this season. I remember when he got banged up, we all said, yeah, this was our big concern about him. But it's his last six, seven games where against better teams on the road, he has just shifted gears.

And Hasselbeck talks about. about Jaden. I see people talking about their inexperience being a negative. It is not a negative. They went on the road to Tampa against the Hot Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans team. They said, so what? There's a game. Anyone, anywhere, anytime. Let's go. Let's win it. And they go the next week. They win it. They're going to Philly. They don't care. Like, they don't even know. They've got poise that's never been, never been seen before out of a rookie quarterback. And they're playing so well. I think Dan Quinn has the bigger job on defense, because I don't think that defense is as talented as the offense in Washington.

So that would be the big question for me. But can they get to the Super Bowl? I said it on this show a couple weeks ago, three weeks or a month ago. Absolutely, you could have a rookie quarterback in the Super Bowl. And Jaden Daniels is the guy to me. Yep. We've seen a wild card stealer team. We've seen Joe Burrow in Road games, Eli Manning in Road games.

Sometimes when you get into these pressurized markets like Buffalo, you get into, like Detroit, there's a lot of pressure in Detroit because Detroit 15 and, you know, what's their record? 15 and 2. There are a lot of pressure on the lines this weekend. There were no pressure. And I can remember that Eli Manning team. Remember the one that lost to the Patriots around Thanksgiving or something later in the year? And so when they played the Patriots of the Super Bowl, and then New England's undefeated.

All the pressure's on New England. New England's got, you know, Robert Kraft is one of the more powerful owners. You've got Tom Brady. It's undefeated. you've beaten all these really good teams and the New York Giants come in and like, yeah, we played them pretty tight. We got a better defensive line.

Their advantage is to being a considerable underdog. It's just generally speaking, when you get young quarterbacks, rookies, Purdy, Sanchez, Big Ben, for them to get to this spot, these are the rookie quarterbacks to start a championship, conference championship game. They all had great defenses.

Sean King, Big Ben, Flacco, Sanchez, Purdy. So you weren't relying on them. to carry your team. Jaden Daniels is carrying this team. Their scoring defenses near the bottom of the league. That's what makes this so nutty. This is not a very good roster. It's not a very good

defense. So, I mean, I remember those Mark Sanchez teams. They would Rex Ryan run the ball, pass rush, get after Manning and get after Big Ben and Brady. That's not this team. They're going to, you know, they're going to win by shootouts. And Philadelphia is going to move the ball on them. So

for the record, Jay Mack. I know it's early, but you got this whole polar vortex thing, which is supposed to kind of die down by Saturday. I'm just wondering what the weather's going to be in the Midwest and outdoors. Are we looking at like single-digit cold? Early indications are not that cold. Okay. But it's not going to be like a balmy 45. I don't think either.

And again, these weather patterns change significantly. You think the outdoors would slow down Jaden Daniels, cold weather? Well, I think if it's nine degrees, I'll take the run team. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not taking the slight, thin, mobile quarterback with one really good receiver. I just don't think the Eagles is a great matchup for the commanders. I need to see this Quignan Mitchell injury situation. He was pivotal.

They lost the Kobe Dean last week. That's two starters down on a great defense. We'll see. I can't wait. It's Monday. Tonight, Notre Dame, Ohio State. It's third. Hey, guys, it's us.

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