The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 – Black Friday & Coaching Replacements

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox discuss potential replacements for Matt Eberflus as the head coach in Chicago. Is it true that Tua and the Dolphins can’t play in the elements or did they run into a true contender in the Packers? Will the Chiefs return dynasty form? Plus, updated odd, alt-casts and much more! #2ProsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It'll just be Labar and I taking you all the way up until the end of this show, which has one hour remaining here. And we're doing it all live here on the IHeart Radio app and on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. I did officially send out my happy Black Friday to Rob Parker on social media. Just the way you say it. The way you just take it.

Racist. How's what do you mean? Just all the way, just so forceful. It's Black Friday. Oh my gosh, Jonas. Why do you think Lee showed up? Everybody out there who doesn't listen to two pros in a cup of Joe.

Lee DeLap, our producer, well, that's his preference. So there you go. Leroy. We call him Leroy Dallat at times. Leroy Dallat Brown. You know, by the way, if you're a fan of dual-purpose items, Ryan who's on the board,

Ryan, who's on the board has a dual-purpose hat. A hat. He always has it on. Like, what you got your hat on for, man? I know you got a baldy. He liked to keep it warm. He said, well, I keep it on because I go to my second. job after I finish up during the board.

I said, well, what is it? My man pulled that bad boy down. It was a ski mask. Right. I ain't going to lie. I ain't, I had the scary type. Hey, look. I had the scary type, but if he rolled up on me and that mask was down, I got to, I mean,

what do you want? What you want? He walked down the hall. I threw up my car keys. You want to say, okay. Hey, it's cool, man. Hey, hey, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, man. Right.

You should walk over to the blue dog just to get something to go and see what they do. Just see what happens over there. Walk into the winds of the world with that thing on and see whether or not they're still charging for stuff. They will be riding and in protest. All right. There could have been. Moving on. Yeah, there could have been some of that in Chicago.

If Matt Iberfluse was not let go by the bears following that disaster yesterday. So that was the news that broke our one of the program here just a couple hours ago here on Fox Sports Radio that Mattie Berflus has been fired by the Chicago Bears. First time in history of the organization they fired a coach in season. Thomas Brown, the offensive coordinator who just recently became the offensive coordinator because they fired their other offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron. But Thomas Brown will be the interim head coach there for the Chicago Bears. and you know you just look at you know maddie brufluz's track record and like there's just like some of the stuff people don't remember or recall like just weird things that have happened during his tenure there like you remember that his defensive coordinator I think his name was

Alan Williams like the FBI raided his house yeah hey whatever happened to that don't know what was that raid about you know the FBI should have ah I don't know like I don't maybe there was some stuff on some computers or something like that. We never really heard from that. It was just, oh, well, you know, I'll just call plays. No problem here. It's like, okay. I guess that's what we're doing.

And then, you know, he hired Luke Getsey and then fired Luke Etsy. And then he hired Chain Waldron. He got like nine games into the season and fired him. It just like this was the path that it was headed and it was going to happen after the season. And so now the conversation becomes where do the Bears turn to next? Yeah, sure a question. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of conversations.

conversation. We were talking the last hour about Colorado and what Dion's been able to build and catching a tiger by the tail and lightning in the bottle. And there was a lot of talking, a lot of big name guys that are in media throwing out there, Dion going to Dallas and so much so that Jerry Jones even got involved with the conversation and discussion. Is there the chance that another team looks at what the opportunity, could represent, especially a crappy team, you know, and looks at it. Listen, Albert Breyer says they're going to keep the guys around in New York. Okay.

I don't see how that happens. There's already a job that's going to be open that probably may be open for the Jets in New York. Then you have Chicago. That's a big market. Cold market just came open. There's always the possibility that Carolina could come open. there are some, I mean, the interesting one is the Raiders. And if you know, you listen to us and you know our show, you know,

the current head coach is one of my closest friends and somebody that I played football with in Washington and New York and Coach Antonio Pierce. But I wonder, is that attractive? I know they're saying, oh, friends with Tom Brady, he just took over, his minority steak, da-da, could be. what's my guy's name? Come on. Mark Davis? No, no, no. The coach that played with him.

Vrable. Could be Vrable that ends up being the guy because of the relationship with him and Tom Brady. But think about it. There's a relationship between Tom Brady and Shador Sanders and Dion Sanders as well. Both Under Armour guys. I just wonder, is there somebody else out there that might be like, oh, good, Jerry, mess it up, like mess it up for yourself. Maybe you get rid of McCarthy at the end of the year.

but you know what, we're already going to start conversations with Dion and see if we can have him in line to possibly come coach our franchise. I would think that you would have to, especially if you're drafting Shador, you would have to have the conversation with Dion. Because look, the Arizona Cardinals weren't going to move on from Steve Wilkes, if not for the fact that they ended up with the first overall pick and they knew that they wanted to take Kyler Murray and they said, well, let's just bring in Cliff Kingsbury.

Sure. He's familiar. We want those guys to work together. Why wouldn't you do that? So if you're drafting number one overall, whoever that is, and you need a coach as well, too, if you don't at least pick up the phone. Cliff Kingsbury better start doing a little bit more than what he's doing in Washington because that shit might sell on him if we don't get them get Jane Daniels pushing that ball down field a little bit more than what he is.

Yeah, it's not been the same offense or same team over the past. since that Steeler game. I don't know what happened in that Steeler game, but there was just something that went sideways there, that sealer game. Pete Priscoe tried to blame it on me. I know that's where you're trying to go with this, trying to say that I'm like I'm the cursed on the Washington commanders.

I am not the curse on Washington Commanders. They have they lost every game since. They have not won a game, including the game that I went back to after like an 11-year, 12, 13-year hiatus from being around there. Like one of the 80 greatest commanders, and you showed back up there and they haven't won a game since? No. I don't know.

I got my W hoodie on today. That's right. You know, that's something that would never happen. Maybe I have cursed them. I don't know. I don't know. I do tell people, though, Joe Gibbs was at the Dallas game. He was at the last game.

So, you know, blame it on him too. Don't just look at me and blame it on me. blame it on anybody who shows up at the game. So to your point on the coaches and the coaching vacancies, so obviously the Raiders is something that could open up. We know the Bears have opened up. You've got the Jaguars. You've got like that could be opening up.

Like you've got the Cowboys potentially. Who knows in Philly and Nick Siriani, I find it hard to believe. Not where they're at right now. That's not going to happen. We'll see how that plays out. But it does. That'd have to be an epic drop-off for, for, Seriani at this point. They're trending in the right direction. Because the question was posed

to Alvrable earlier like hey so you know Ben Johnson, Mike Vrable, Belichick, like when it comes to Chicago the most recent opening, where do we stand? I mean, Ben Johnson, I think if you'd asked him a year ago, it might have been the job he wanted. I don't know if that's going to be the case the same way. They're in division with them obviously, you know, but I know he had interest last year. So I think that's possible. And like I do think they've got the infrastructure where he can just coach. I'm a little less certain with Belichick and Brable. I think the job in a vacuum would appeal

to Belichick. And I think he's able to. The question is like you've got Kevin Warren is a team president. You got Ryan Poles as a general manager. Like how did this whole thing look under Vrable under Belichick? Because unless they're going to be able to shape the organization a certain way,

they may be hesitant to go there. You know, you look at a Ben Johnson who's, you know, ostensibly the first time head coach going to go there to their Chester coach. And I think it really could be a very attractive job with Caleb there and the roster they have in place and everything else. You know, for guys like

Brable and Belichick who may have like a more I guess a more global look at like how they want to set up the entire organization, unless those guys are being able to make some bigger changes and just who's going to be on their coaching staff. I think they're they could

wind up boxing at the idea of it. Where would you, of the potential openings, where do you have the bears with Caleb Williams at quarterback? Because it is attractive, but it's dysfunctional. It's dysfunctional, man. And, you know, you ask yourself the question, if you bring in a guy, like, I went through being in a dysfunctional organization, and they brought in a guy like a Bill Belichick. Some people may remember the name Marty Schottenheimer. They brought in Marty. Marty came in and started to fix and clean up things that he saw that were issues and problems for the organization.

And the organization didn't take kindly to it. And he was relieved of his duties after one season there. Now, I asked myself the question when I think the relevance of me making that point is, is that how many teams would Bill Belichick go to that would be okay? Because here's the thing. The teams that are going to be in need of a coach are teams that, are struggling and some have clearly defined that they are dysfunctional organizations. If you bring in a guy like Bill Belichick who's going to identify the things that need to be changed

are some of those things that need to be changed, including you as an owner, you as, you as this person that's a decision maker. So maybe somebody who's a little bit more obscure and not as recognizable a name, but nonetheless are part of the dysfunction in the organization. organization. How uncomfortable will will they become if you brought in a guy like

Bill Belichick, a guy like Mike Vrable who they do have a very strong presence and a strong idea of how things are supposed to be done? Will that be a one and done? Because it's like okay well, we brought you here because you did what

you did in New England or you did what you did in Tennessee. But we don't want you to necessarily do it where it impacts us and affects us. And that's a very, very difficult proposition to put a coach, especially a coach that has coached at the level that Bill Belichick has coached that. Does he have the type of patience to want the paycheck, want the ability and the opportunity to coach, but be coaching under those circumstances? I just don't see that taking place.

I can tell you this right now. Get ready for people to start throwing out Lincoln Riley. as a potential like hey if you want to get the most out of Caleb who got the most out of him and you and I both know in this town but would it be as an OC or as a head coach

because it's not like he's been blowing the the doors off of people with being a head coach but Cliff Kingsbury left as an OC left as an OC though no but he took the head coaching job in Arizona but he left his last gig as an OC he's an

O.C. in Washington. As a head coach, he wasn't all that hot in college. Wasn't that good. He wasn't that good in Arizona. So, yeah, I just, look, I would find. Hey, it cost him my boy a job. You know what I mean? I mean, Vrable, Belichick, like, there's going to be some candidates.

Ben Johnson's a first time. I just think, okay, there you go. Like, when you throw out names like Ben Johnson, I like, I like that. I like that. This NFL is changing. The players are changing. the personalities are changing, how you lead, those things are changing.

It's all changing. I love Rable, though. I just think some of these names that we're throwing out, I think Rable's name is a name that could stay in circulation actively where you could say he's a guy that can relate to the players. This is more of a player-coach relationship-driven league more than ever. That's where we're at. We're not in a disciplinarian. We're not in an old school coach.

We're not in a I can identify with you, which is interesting. I just heard A.J. Brown talking about how they solid with Seriani as a coach. They support him. They feel good about him. But yet you had an outside world sitting there saying it's everything but that. These coaches that connect with their players on a personal level, whether it's Andy Reid more so as the uncle or the dad, the father figure, or if it's like you're my boy and like a Kyle Shanahan or a LaFleur or a Mike,

you know, Mike McDaniel. These are the type of coaches that are getting results. Dan Campbell, he's a player's coach. He played the game. A lot of these guys played or have been around it. So to me, I'm to the point now where I'm like, I don't want to hear these old-ass names. I don't want to hear you talk about Bill Belichick. Talk about somebody who's new.

Talk about a young talent that's coming. Like we mentioned, Ben, talk about new guys, new blood, new ways of approaching this, because that's what it's going to take to find success in today's new NFL with today's new NFL players. It's the herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. By the way, your guy Joaquin Brisker.

That's what I do. Sent a tweet out shortly after the news of Matt Iberflus being fired. Jaquan Bursker is a safety for the Chicago Bears. God don't make mistakes. Dang. Dang. So here we go. Here we go.

It is a circus. But the Chicago Bears did. Again. All right. So coming up next year, though, we are going to get into. What is looking like, I don't know, a bounce back opportunity, a real chance for people to see what they've been coming for all season in the NFL. Are they still the best? We'll find out here shortly.

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from Fox Sports Radio. and from Lee to Lap, it's another edition of the herd line news. That'll be yours to close up shop. We are going to look ahead here shortly to the game that will be taking place here, top of the hour. That's going to be the Chiefs and the Raiders. We'll get into that for you. But I did want to get some reaction and a couple of thoughts on the Miami Dolphins

who have now lost seven straight games when the temperature drops to below freezing a kickoff. I'm surprised it's not more than that. I thought it would be more than that, but maybe they just haven't played in enough games to where that's the current situation. But Miami loses to Green Bay yesterday. And, you know, people are complaining. People are talking about kind of how they handled the elements. Jordan Brooks of the Miami Dolphins. He had some strong commentary afterwards.

He said this. I felt like when we let the elements control the way that we played, thought we were soft. simply that I thought we were soft today I don't know if guys was too cold like I don't know what it was but I felt like the elements played a part in how we played as a group and so

and that was the results that we got ooh look we've heard soft before as a head coach that's in it like so it's out to draw mayo yeah I don't have to play in it

so it's easy to sit here and look at it just like it was easy to sit there and look at what happened in the playoff game against the Chiefs last year where Patrick Mahomes had his helmet crack and you had people get frostbite and lose limbs because the elements were so much and the dolphins had to play

in that. But it does feel like this is an issue. Tula's record is horrible and cold weather. It's horrible. The Dolphins haven't won a playoff game on the road since the Seahawks were in the AFC.

Like that's how long it's been since they want to play off game on the road. So I'm looking at Miami and like I like Tua, I like Mike McDaniel, the offense is fun and it just keeps coming down to the same conversation which is, yeah,

but if they've got to go on the road and play in the elements, they're screwed. Like it just feels like that's where we're at with them. So if you're the dolphins... I don't understand why that would be. I mean, Alabama has played in the elements. It's not like Tua has never played in the elements. And Tarek played in Kansas.

city. Some of these guys, I mean, they came from, you know, another receiver from Alabama. You know, you got guys that played at Penn State. You know, I mean, there's cold weather guys on the team. What is the reasoning behind them not being able to win in the elements? Like I said at the top of the show, when you were watching that game, you saw the Cheetah and the other guys. They went out there.

They didn't have on clothes like it was cold. They went out there. and they represented themselves like, look, we're going to go out here and we're going to treat this as business as usual. I thought the problem that the Miami Dolphins ran into was that they played against a better team. Well, there's that too. I mean, can we not bury the lead here?

What took place in that game? Let's see. You went out there. you had every intentions of executing a game plan that was a winning game plan and you ran into a defense that had boast a very, very good defensive front Rashad Gary is a grown-ass man

he's like one of the most underrated dope football players on the defensive side of the ball that you'll come up on and he consistently is one of those teammates that makes everybody else raise their level, raise their level of play, and then you look at Jordan Love, and Jordan Love is what you would call

a guy, a guy that is proving every single day why he's the guy in Green Bay. He's the replacement of Aaron Rogers, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, as you mentioned he got hot last year wasn't a great overall year but he got hot at the right time and he has not turned back he has not turned back and you've seen a team they got they have a nice

developing rapport with with the receivers there's a lot of receivers there you pick they say they don't have a one receiver doesn't matter by committee they're pretty good jacups out the tailback position I hate to say it because I'm such an Aaron Jones fan. He's an upgrade. He's an upgrade. Great pickup. And so I think that this team, this team overall is one of those teams that, man, like, you look at them and you say, okay, it was the wrong time, wrong place. You could blame it on weather if you want to, but it was the right place if you're a Green Bay fan because that's a good team.

You lost to a legitimate contender. NFC side. We've got to wait to see how the seeding works out, but assuming Detroit holds on to the number one seed, which if you're looking at the last couple of weeks for the Lions, you know, Indianapolis, they were in control, but, you know, you can argue that the Bears losing was the bigger story of that game against Detroit

and then, you know, firing their head coach the next day afterwards because of it. But, like, you look at Detroit and I go, man, I would give Green Bay a shot against Detroit. I'd give them a puncher's chance against Detroit in the postseason. season. You've already played them twice. Like, why not? Like, Minnesota, I give Green Bay

a better shot than I do Minnesota, and there's a chance that Green Bay finishes behind Minnesota in the standings, and they're going to have a lower seat. I look at it, I go, yeah, Green Bay is a good football team, and Miami just, like, if you're a Dolphids fan, and

you're looking at, man, am I ever going to see my team win a Super Bowl? Here's what you need to go in your favor. All right. you need either home field advantage or if somebody does get home field advantage, it's somebody from the AFC South, so you're playing either Jacksonville in the same state

or you got Houston in a dome or Indianapolis in a dome. Tennessee, I don't know if they're getting a dome, but we'll figure that out. And then if the Raiders potentially make a run and you got to go on the road in the playoff game, that's a possibility. The Chargers as well, too, although that's like a gazebo, not really a stadium. So, like, it's still kind of cold in there also.

Or you just need to hope that Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes don't exist. And if that happens, the Dolphins could be a Super Bowl team. Like, that could really, really happen for them at some point down the road. As it stands right now, I just, I can't imagine a world where that's a Super Bowl team. I can't. They can't even win a playoff game, dude. They're not. Like, so.

Not yet. They're not there yet. They have the talent. They have a lot of talent. And for what it's worth, they have the talent at the coaching position as well, I believe. But they, you know, there's the ultimate conversation of how far can you go with Tua?

Tua. You know, it was interesting I saw. I think I saw a couple players pull up when they went to hit Tua. Oh, really? I started asking myself, do you want to beat a player that's like, Oh, he hit him. Oh, like, you got to live with that.

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I saw on the sideline the one time, like, the way they, he, he's like, it was like, wait, hold on, man. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. There was a couple times I saw, I saw him get contact. And it was like, the F is that? What are you doing?

It didn't look. It didn't look like they were looking to, to thump him. It looked like, it was like I'm here and I'm going to get to him and I'm going to touch him and make sure he's down. I saw it a couple times. I counted at least two or three times. I saw where a guy could have hit him and they didn't hit him. I mean, every time he takes a hit to his head, his hands turned into chopsticks. Bro.

Like, maybe people are looking at that going on. I don't want to hit him. I don't want to be the one that hits him. And again, listen, it is what it is. but how far can you go before either Tua goes down and gets hurt and you got to win without Tua? We saw how that works out. You got to figure it out. You got to figure it out.

To me, I think the biggest question that they got to answer is, what do you do moving forward as it applies to your quarterback position? You got to figure it out. Yeah. Because that's going to happen. It's going to happen again. No, that's not me being cynical or trying to put

something on, put evil on Tua. It's just, that's a reality. He moves around. He was moving around in that game yesterday. He gets touched and he gets hit and there's going to be somebody who comes to hit him

that their intentions are bad and he's going to get hit. So where is that, where do you go from there? That's a big question. I think that's the biggest question they got to answer. are in Miami. By the way, you strike me as LeVar Arrington. You strike me as somebody who

if you were playing and you saw Tua, you would lay up a little bit. Like is that true? I would never lay off. No. You ace him? Ace him. You're going to have to go. You're going to have to come scoop him up. Active LeVar is different than the radio LeVar. Active LeVar

I had a built-in ski mask. My ski mask was already on. I got woke up with a ski mask on. That was my face. Lovar's got to it like he's P-22, that mountain lion that popped across the 101 and got smoked. Straight over. Straight over. And wouldn't have.

Hey, I think I can make it. Zero, listen. Zero, zero, zero remorse. Zero bad feeling. Zero, regret. Oh, man. In fact, in fact. fact, I'd be celebrating.

So the Chiefs and the Raiders are kicking off here in a little over 20 minutes from now. What's up, Brett? And I'm just wondering, are the Chiefs ever going to look like the Chiefs this regular season? Why do you have to look like the Chiefs this regular? Look, we're looking at Andy Reid on and Patrick Mahomes doing their state farm commercials right now. They're big time. they're big time why they got to look like something else for

how many losses they have one one how many wins do how many wins the Giants have one more one more than one it's it is kind of funny because

they haven't like this is probably Patrick Mahomes I would say Patrick Mahomes is worst here as a pro and yet there's nobody you trust in the season more than Patrick Mahomes, that they're just going to somehow figure this out. Like, somehow they're going to, like whatever they've put together this year, because the defense is playing

well, and you've seen the defense carrying them at times. But last year, like, Mahomes talked about it going into the season this year that, yeah, we won a Super Bowl last year, but it was difficult. Like, there were times, Travis Kelsey having meltdowns. Remember on Christmas Day, on Christmas

day last year, the Raiders beat the cheese? Yeah, they did beat them. Yeah. And so here we are, week 13 of the regular season and they're still trying to find their rhythm and it still doesn't look as smooth as it is. I think they have a rhythm. I think

they have a rhythm. I think if you're looking at it where you want them to be as explosive as they've been in like the opening, the opening show when they first popped on to the scene and

they had the cheetah there and and they started winning and doing what they were doing, it gets harder and harder to be a team that dominates at the pro level. So the fact that they've had to deal with loss, they've lost some of their best players through the years. They've maintained guys like Jones and Mahomes. They've maintained core guys. But the bottom line is they have gone through changes.

and just because you go through changes doesn't mean you can't win. It just means that things may change the way that they're happening. You don't have to re-kill taking the top off of a defense and doing the things that we've seen him historically do with Kansas City. They brought in DeAndre Hopkins. He looks like a very nice possession receiver, a nice addition to what it is that they're doing. Pacheco's been hurt.

They haven't had him. They got Kareem Hunt back. I think that that's one of those backfields. I mean, while looking at Detroit and saying that that's the best backfield tandem in the National Football League, let Pacheco get healthy and him and Kareem Hunt being that same backfield. That could end up being your best tandem of running backs in the league. And it could be a small period of time. Doesn't matter.

You get them for the playoffs. You got both for the playoffs. That could be a dangerous duo in the backfield. You got receivers. Worthy is getting great reps because guys are out hurt. hurt. You know, Rishi Rishi Rises, he's not, he's not coming back. So you see guys stepping up. You're not going to see particularly the team and the smoothness, as you say, that you would have seen in years past, the explosiveness on offense. People can say what they want to say about Erick B. Enemy.

You don't have Eric B. Enemy anymore. That could be a part of why they're not as explosive. But nonetheless, they have continued to figure out ways to play out a high. your level than the opponents that they're playing against. And really at the end of the day, what else is there to it? Is somebody going to catch up to them in this year's playoffs? Maybe so. But who is it? I'd say the one team that can do it is probably the two teams.

It's probably Baltimore and the bills. And the bills. I throw those two names out there and say that those are two teams that can do it. Now, if we're looking at the NFC side of it, who can stand up to them? on the NFC side, I would say right now, today who I'm looking at, definitively, I think that obviously the Detroit lines can stand up to that and can match the physicality of up front and handle things in the running game and do things on defense in the passing game. But also, I look at a team like Philly.

They're trending in the right direction. They're trending in the right direction. The NFC North is like, take your pick. The thing about that makes it so much fun to talk about is you've got the bills and you've got the Ravens. And I would agree with you. Both those teams are capable of beating Kansas City. Yet every time there's a tight game between them. They lose.

It's Kansas City that finds a way to win. It's just every single time. And I hate to say it because people always want to give it to Patrick Mahomes. It's generally it's generally Spaggs's defense that's giving them to add. By the way, why hasn't Spagnolo gotten any love for head coaching job? I don't know. I mean, how long ago was that stint he had with the Rams? It's been a while.

Like they were in St. Louis. It's been quite some time. Like he's repaired. I also wanted this because there's been some specular because they threw this out. Matt and Aggie, we talked about him earlier, former Bears coach, the OC in Kansas City, that there's been talk that he's going to be a guy up for some interviews. People are going to look at him because you go back and you look at his run in Chicago. you go, oh, all things considered now, you know, actually pretty impressive.

He took him to the playoffs twice. If you're Matt Nagy, why wouldn't you just hang out in Kansas City until Andy Reid walks away? I mean, if I'm Spagnola, that could be what he's doing. Yeah, like, why even mess around? Maybe that's the reason why, which is the original point of what you're saying, if I'm Spagnola, why would I move? I was with Andy Reed. People may not realize this. I think he was the

defensive backs coach something like that. He was with Reed and Philly. They go way back. They go back together. Which, by the way, that's a dope-ass coaching staff that Andy Reed had in Philadelphia.

He had Spags. He had Harbaugh. He had what's my guy that just finished coaching the Washington commanders last year? Rivera. Rivera was their lineback. his coach. Gruden was there. They had Gruden. They had Jim Johnson.

Was it? Jim Johnson? What was his name? He passed away. He's the defense coordinator. Yeah. It's an amazing coordinator, defense coordinator. Yeah, Spags was with Andy Reed in Philly. Bro, that coaching staff was crazy good. If I'm Spags, I stay put because I know my defense knows what I want. We make big things happen. We're part of, we are almost, if not the biggest reason why this team continues to win.

and let Patrick Mahomes and Andy get all of the credit, but we'll keep doing what it is that we're doing, and then, man, you're going to be like, Speggs took over for Kansas City. Like, oh, Andy Reid stepping down, oh, it's going to Spags. Like, I could see that very easily happening. Yeah, get to work with Mahomes and then.

And that would most likely be the reason why he's not actively pursuing other jobs elsewhere. He don't have the runway to go somewhere else and try to, you know, kind of, you know, experiment with it. I think it comes down to the familiarity of everything that's around him. And if he were able to get the keys to the car in Kansas City, you don't change a thing. You don't change your thing. You just keep doing what you do. It's the herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox. In for Cotlin, coming up next here, we are going to close up shop with another edition of the herdline news. And we've got an update on some numbers we threw at you earlier in the show.

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No, I was thinking, would that be a good name for like a salad dressing? Simple assault. And it's a play on word, salt? Maybe not. I say we invest. then we see. There's only one way to know. This did not amuse the cops. By the way, normally the cops

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All right, guys, we've been talking about it all day because the games have been on live. The Heisman race, the Heisman Watch. If you guys want the numbers here, I got some live updates from Draft Kings. We got Travis. Did Travis score another touchdown? Yeah, he's got two touchdowns today. Oh, that's over. Yeah, it's over.

Meanwhile, Ashton Genties at about 185 with one touchdown. Oh, it's over. Wrong year, baby. Wrong year. Yep, wrong year for him. Right now he's sitting at plus 1,800, second place for the Heisman, while Travis Hunter's at minus 8,000. Huh.

But can't be up for the Thorpe Award, huh? Interesting. Yeah. Okay. What else? What else you got? I mean, it makes sense. Does it make sense? Not really.

Oh, okay. But, you know, this is what happens when you let writers and people get as much power as they have to be able to dictate somebody getting awarded and rewarded for certain things. Oh, okay. I mean, it's the same. Look, why is Mike Shanahan not in the Hall of Fame? It doesn't make any sense. Why is he not? Why is he not?

It doesn't make any sense. You know, Robert Kraft, there's, you know, he's, he's. But he's not going to the Hall of Fame again either. It's just you let people vote on these things. And occasionally some stuff will slip away. Writers, writers, reporters, people in the media. You know, but what do I know?

I never want anything. What else we got, Lee? Guys, we have another alternative broadcast announced. Yesterday during the Dolphins Packers game at halftime, they announced that Peacock will be doing the first ever Madden NFL cast. This will be between the Chiefs and Texans in Week 16 on a Saturday. It's basically teaming up with Genius Sports Next Gen. Data,

combining the real-time data insights with fully branded animation. It's a new immersive view and experience. Obviously, we know the Simpsons game is coming up in a week from Monday. A Maddencast? So you play a video game and the game is on? Yeah, there's going to be live stats. They're going to try to predict the plays coming up. Chad Ochosynco is going to be part of the broadcast.

A bunch of different animations, basically overlaid on top of the. it. I mean, all right. If only they had Mike Tyson's punch out during the Tyson Paul fight, they would have made it more interesting. So if we're going to do video games, just go ahead and pair up them all and make this whole thing work. What else, Lee? Well, it is the season of giving. Kenny Dillingham,

the coach for Arizona State, got a $200,000 bonus for winning his ninth game versus BYU last Saturday. He has dished it out to all of his staffers. They've received bonuses between $5,000 and $10,000. Forks up, Kenny. You see? That's super cool. And look, he's, you know, he's appreciative of the holidays, and he likes, you know,

talking to people on the holidays. He likes, you know, responding to their text messages and reaching out to him. And that's nice. Can you and Q be giving to? What do you mean? And hook me and Leah up for the holidays, please. What do you mean? With your bonus money?

Thank you. You think I got bonus money? Hell yeah. And you get time and a half today. Hell yeah. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Hey, man, look.

Not I. Come on, man. Keep everybody happy. Not I. You got cats running around with ski masks on because they got to make a little bit more money. Like, come on, man. Let's get some of that bonus money. Listen, the dolphins, I had the dolphins plus three and a half yesterday.

And that was the last leg of a three-team parlay. I needed that one to hit so I could hit my parlay. And, of course, they just craft themselves in the cold. I don't know why I bet that. But now I've got to go back in and take more money out of my son's, you know. His checking account, his saving. I mean, you know, from his baptismal party, you know, he's got his first communion money I got to get into now. You're full of it, Dad.

It's just a bumper, man. You're sitting on millions over there, man. Not at all. Not at all. You got chip and dip. Not at all. Hope all y'all enjoyed your Thanksgiving. And if you didn't hear from me, it's not because I didn't care about you.

I just don't want to send out all. these messages for Thanksgiving. I hope you enjoyed your holiday. Yeah. On everything. It's a good football weekend. Rivalry weekend and college football. Ohio State, I hope you lose.

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This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest. When I did podcasts, I wear my sleep masks. I like where this is going. So if you guys will indulge me. That's right, the incredibly talented and hilarious Will Ferrell on an episode dedicated to crimes committed by people named Will Ferrell. You're good for 300 crimes?

Yeah. We got two. I'm ready to go right up to present day. Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Therapy is fantastic, but once again, it does not have a monopoly on healing. That's why I create the resources and that's why I create the community because I really just want you to have more access. On the podcast, Cultivating Her Space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard.

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