The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - Brady, Rodgers

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

Looking at the issues with Tom Brady and the Buccaneers Thoughts on Aaron Rodgers and the Packers last night Trick or Treat: Colin guesses which NFL stats are correct   Guest: Howie LongSee omnystudi...o.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:46 tonight as the scene shifts to Philly for a potential, for a pivotal game three between the Astros and Phillies. Coverage begins at seven eastern four Pacific only on Fox and the Fox Sports app. Bryce Harper's one of those guys when he's on television, when Bryce Harper's at the plate, I remember years ago, 20 years ago or whatever it was, I'm walking through an airport and Jose Konseko was at the plate. And everybody in the airport went to the bar to watch Jose Konseko back. Bryce Harper is one of those guys for me, the look, the handsome, the hair, the flowing, the hot. When he's at the plate, TV stops.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Did you say the hot? No, no, no. I was at an airport in Jose Konseko was like so big that. It was by a luggage carousel. And everybody just turned and watched Jose can say baseball gets about two of those a decade. That kind of guy. You know, I hear people say that about this show when we're doing stuff together. Like people are stopping.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Airport. Are hanging out. Yeah. Howie Long's the Hall of Famer. Fox Sunday crew. They continue to crush. This Pete Carroll thing is great because Pete Carroll, I said, you're out of your mind. Drew Locke and Gino Smith, you're out of your mind.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I look up and I'm like, how? They are going a thousand miles an hour. Pete's got them believing. You know his history with young players. What do you make of Seattle? Well, I think it's a great setup for what Pete likes to do. Pete likes to coach young guys. And, you know, I think they believed that Drew Locke was probably going to be to
Starting point is 00:04:23 win the job. And you remember that Drew Locke got COVID that week when they were, you know, kind of a pivotal week where they're going to be. to make the decision and didn't get reps, didn't get in the game. And Gino hasn't looked back. And I think it's one of the great stories in the league this year. And you move on from Russell and, you know, all that comes with that. And, you know, Russell had become, you know, kind of an icon up there.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And, you know, having won a Super Bowl coming within a yard of winning a second Super Bowl, we had so much fun covering those teams. And, you know, a big part of it was Pizza Mesa Mesa Moll. energy. John Snyder, you know, did something they haven't, they haven't done in a couple of years. He had a really good draft and they're getting great production out of young players. He's got a team that he, this is the type of team that he loves to coach. And they're going to squeeze every ounce of ability out of this football team. And where they're going to go, I don't know, but it's been a fun ride so far.
Starting point is 00:05:24 You watch all these games. I contend when healthy, the Niners are the only team. in the league with a pro bowl player in every single unit. Fred Warner, you can go to corner, Trent Williams. I don't think there's another team like it. I think they're the most talented team. A lot of people feel Buffalo is a Hall to Famer. What do you see with the Niners? Well, I kind of see the same thing that you see. You know, health is an issue this year, but it seems like it's been an issue for three, four years with the Niners. And it, it's, it's really been more about can they get everyone on the field, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:04 And when you say pro bowl players, you're talking about, you know, left tackle could be the best left tackle. Bosa could be the best defensive end from a complete player standpoint. Warner, I think, is clearly the best inside linebacker in football. And I think when you add a McCaffrey to, I think the way lost in all this is the way IUC has played. And, you know, they're going to get Debo back. and Kittle is as complete a player at his position as there is. And if they threw the ball more and Kittle was in a more dynamic offense, he'd have Star Wars numbers.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I think this team, when healthy, can really, I think they can beat anybody. Yeah. You know, we're at a point in the season, eight games through. I think I know who's really good. I think Philadelphia is good. I think the Niners when healthy are good. Buffalo, Kansas City. I tend to think Cincinnati is better than most.
Starting point is 00:07:00 people do. I also think we know who's not good. And then you kind of get into the Dallas's. And Jason thinks they're really good. I think they can play a certain way. I think they're really good with a lead playing downhill with that pass rush. I don't think Dak trailing late. Mike McCarthy, I don't know if I trust. What do you make a Dallas? What do you like? What concerns you? Love the defense. Parsons is a generational talent. And I think they learned a lot from that Philadelphia game where, you know, if they had them playing off, they threw the ball. If they had him playing on the line, they ran either the read option or the RPO at him and put him in kind of no man's land. I'm sure that Dan Quinn will make sure that that's not the case because you, you, one thing you want is you want him flying around.
Starting point is 00:07:55 That defense is for real. They fly around. They force a lot of turnovers. The offense, I thought, changed a bit when DAC was out, and I thought it was for the better. I think running the football, Pollard, as we saw, you know, this past weekend, adds an element of dynamic play to that position. No question. But I think Zique is as important.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You know, I think, to me, the one-two punch, Zeke is the body blow. body blow, body blow. And Pollard is the explosive player. Zeke is the closer, and I think Dak compared to the Detroit game, looked so much more comfortable. And I think, you know, people were, it was unfair to expect that after missing that many games, thumb surgery on your throwing hand for him to come out and be as smooth as could be. He looked much better this past weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And I think they're a team that with that defense and with the offense expanding with Dax health and being comfortable, I think they can, they also can compete. See, the great thing about our league is, you know, in baseball, it's two three, two, it's two games in Houston, two games in Philadelphia, then two games back in Houston. With our playoff format, like no other sport, it's, are you hot one day? Sure. Can your defense play great? Can your quarterback play great? Can you limit your mistakes? And you can advance. And, you know, whether it's a wild card, to divisional, divisional, to championship game, and then on to the Super Bowl in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And I think that's why our game is so special, because each game means so much. Is there a, you know, with Aaron, I said earlier today, people say, hey, don't blame him for this. And I'm like, listen, he's a smart guy. He had young receivers coming in. He didn't want to go and work with him in the offseason. He took the 50 million, good for him.
Starting point is 00:09:48 But he's a smart guy. He knows there's limitations. And I look at it and I think to myself, well, this is kind of on this show what we said. He's not really a mentor guy. And it is hard. You're a veteran. You go back to your career the last couple of years. The rookies come in.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You don't have a lot. You know, a lot of guys don't have a lot of patience. Do you have some sympathy? Hey, Sean, listen, listen, Sean Jones lived with me. Chester McLaughton lived with me. Chester McLaughlin came to God rest of soul. Miss Chester, a great deal. Chester was 375 when we got him.
Starting point is 00:10:20 He was playing two snaps. three snaps at Clemson and then missing five. Yeah. And there was a great player there, you know, in my mind, what could have been a Hall of Fame player. But, you know, it is a responsibility, I think, particularly when you're in the position room, but particularly a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And the two things that that bother me a little bit is, you know, when you make that transition and Devante Adams leaves and, you know, all the ripple effect of that, and you've got young receivers that they've been. And Green Bay's always done a great job of drafting receivers and kind of, you know, it's one cycle after another, and they do a good job with it. But I think it is your responsibility to be there in the offseason
Starting point is 00:11:08 and work with those young players. And I also think it's your responsibility to coach them up. And I don't think it's your responsibility to coach them up in the media. That kind of turns me off. That being said, I think that Aaron, you know, if you look at Tom's situation and you look at Aaron's situation, and, you know, two of our all-time great quarterbacks, you know, Tom, center gone, guard gone, other guard gone, left tackle misses time, Gromk retires, wide receivers, can't stay healthy two weeks in a row, defense is faltering. I think that Aaron and that formula that they showed last night, played better defense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Run the football. And Aaron still, boy, I'll tell you what, nobody throws the ball better than Aaron. He is an amazing player. He really is. Finally, you know, Brady's had a really tough, my wife said this the other day. She said when Tom got divorced, she said, you know, when you have that kind of net worth, they've been working on this thing for six months. didn't happen two weeks ago. And so this is really hard. It's a personal drama. It's strife. It's
Starting point is 00:12:20 chaos. It's brutal. And then I watched Tom and he looks like he's 15 pounds lighter. And you can just see he's going through just an awful situation for any human being. Do you think, you know, at the end of your career, you know, you've always had these stable relationships in your life, your kids, your great wife. But do you think, I mean, it's, does, do you guess Brady's back, or do you think this whole thing for Brady's been tough? Where are you on Tom today and his future in this league. Well, I think it was kind of the perfect storm of, you know, bad. As I mentioned, your pro bowl, all pro center goes down day one.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Your one guard retires. The other guard leaves in free agency, Grot retires. You know, the run game is not there. And I think that's something that if they had that, you see to me, Four Nett, as tough as he is, and as physical as he is, Four Nets of closure. Four Nets kind of like Zeke. You know, it's like pound you physical. You lack that kind of dynamic element in the run game to where you can run the play
Starting point is 00:13:24 action pass, get six, seven in protection. I think, yeah, you know, Tom and what part of it is personal and part of it is football. You know, I was, you watch him in a press conference. I was like, somebody get him a peanut butter sandwich. Yeah. You know, I feel for him because we've covered. covered him for a long time. I had a son that played with him and won a Super Bowl with him. He's great to his teammates. He's he is a great teammate and does it the right way.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And you know, you just you never know when it's going to go. You know, whether it's, you know, November, December, it could go in July and suddenly I think both of these quarterbacks are in a situation where they're like, wow, what do I do now? Yeah. And I think, If I had to choose between the two, I think Green Bay is probably set up a little bit better, although that division down the NFC South, if anyone gets on a hot streak, they can win it. Yeah. Howie Long, the Hall of Famer, good seeing you. Fox Sunday, noon Eastern.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Good seeing you. Good seeing you. Had his son on a couple of days ago, second all-time leader for the Raiders and Sacks. A lot of stuff going on with us. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
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Starting point is 00:18:26 All right, Colin. You know, one thing I want to quickly say about Long is, you know, he does a great job, obviously, on the Sunday show. And did you see Glazer's report about Alvin Kamara and the speculation about the trade over the weekend? I did see that.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Buffalo apparently is kicking the tires on Camaro. And we didn't really touch on this with the McCaffrey trade, but some of these best teams in the league are really going hard. I told you last week, people are not giving the Robert Quinn to the Eagles, the validation. He was brought in like Vaughn Miller to the Rams, a team with second half leads that just needs a straight pass rusher. Robert Quinn to the Eagles is going to end up winning a game or a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:19:10 He's going to do a Vaughn Miller that when you played in Chicago, you're trail late. Robert Quinn's the guy that, like, Vaughn, we lead seven points. Here comes Burrough down the field. Make a play. That's where Vaughn Miller and Robert Quinn will crush. Sunday show, always good. All right, Kyle, let's get to the news. Taylor Heineke and Terry McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Wow. Obviously, big heroes for Washington McLaurin now. Two weeks in a row, incredible. Down by six with less than a minute to go. Look at this. Heineke just throws it up, and McLaren Mosses Stefan Gilmore. Remember the former Patriot star. Go up and get it, Terry McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Great catch. Washington punches it in for the win. Taylor Heineke, 2-0 as a starter. I told you, Wents was done. Washington now, 500 in the NFC. Colin, is this a team like Ron Rivera maybe off the hot seat? What do you make of this Washington streak? Well, I think McLaren's the most underrated player in the league. My takeaway is Washington's got a lot of talent.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Heineke is better at operating. this offense than Wence was. Heineke kind of plays within himself. I think he's a really accurate. He delivers a really accurate football. It's like the Bailey Zappy thing. How good is he, I don't know. But he runs the offense.
Starting point is 00:20:20 He gets rid of it. They've actually got playmakers. McLaren's a great player. For the Colts, this is just devastating. They let Taylor Heinekeke go over 80 yards twice in the fourth quarter. At home, I mean, it's brutal for the Colts. It feels kind of over. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I feel bad. We talk about coaching jobs all the time. Is the indie job a good one? No quarterback? No. I mean, to me, quarterback won, functional ownership, and do I have draft capital and some cap space? Ursay is becoming more and more a meddler. I mean, he wanted Carson Wentz gone. Say what you want, but they were better with Carson Wentz last year than they are now. That's indisputable. A lot of speculation. He's the one who benched Maddie Ice. All right, moving on. Denver Broncos had lost four straight games ahead of this matchup against the Jags. in London.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Let Russ cook. I broke through. Listen, Russell Wilson, when given the chances, uncorked, a great drive there late? I was moving around. Out of the pocket. I don't know what takes so long. They like, don't do it for three quarters. Russ, go save us.
Starting point is 00:21:21 At any rate, Denver took the lead with less than two minutes to go. And Trevor Lawrence, at some point, Trevor Lawrence deserves a segment. I know it's a Jaguars and nobody cares, but a little bit disappointed with how he's done a year and a half. He's got a little Andrew luck where he throws some really bad interceptions for what's a smart kid, I think. You know, people are saying now, well, at Clemson, they never played anybody good, but he did beat that Alabama team as a freshman that was great. I like Trevor Lawrence a lot, but he does as a young quarterback. By the way, Eli was still doing this in year three.
Starting point is 00:21:54 He throws some bad balls. You know, people forget this. Eli popped in year four. We used to give guys four years. Now we want, by Thanksgiving of year two, show me your star. They're not getting rid of them. They're staying with him. No, definitely. Yeah, I mean, he's, he is their friend. franchise quarterback for the next six or seven years or beyond. So figure it out. What an offense that benefits his skills. Hold on to your Trevor Lawrence stock. This is not the time to sell low. He's going to be fine. Maybe just not as good as we think. He's going to be a B. I thought he would be an A. I'm going to disappoint. Remember what I wanted my jets to tank for Trevor Lawrence?
Starting point is 00:22:28 They ended up getting the number two pick. Zach Wilson is no Trevor Lawrence. All right. Final story. Let's go. Week eight ends tonight. Big matchup between the Bengals and the Browns. Cincinnati has been trending in the right direction, winning four of their last five. Cleveland, though, has lost four straight. This feels like a last stand for the Browns? Yeah, I took the Browns to cover. I'm two and two going into tonight. I think it's a divisional game in Cleveland. They play their butts off. They've matched up well. They've given the Bengals. Miles Garrett's given the Bengals front some trouble. I think Cleveland plays really hard. I'll take Cincinnati close, but I think Cincinnati accounts for themselves. Yeah, if you can get the hook, Fox Fed has it at three and a half. This could easily be a
Starting point is 00:23:04 2320 type game. That's what it feels like. I have a feeling. And by the way, Kareem Hunt, I don't know if you follow this speculation. A lot of talk. Like if they lose this game, they're now 2 and 6, it's kind of over. Would they move off from Kareem Hunt? Because remember, we talked about it. DeShon Watson, biggest cap hit in the league. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:20 They got to start shedding guys. Kareem Hunt is a guy you can shed. You're not dumping Nichoke. They also have two great guards. So if I'm a team that's got some concerns in the middle, they have the best guard tandem in the league. Maybe you move off one. I mean, I'm just, you get to a point now where you lose tonight
Starting point is 00:23:35 and what you're 2 and 6, it's over. Baltimore and Cincinnati. They are starting to pull away in the division. Yeah. And they should. Those are the best teams. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. Sean Peyton, Howie Long, Joe Thomas, all stopped by today and the Lakers won last night. So on Halloween, the city of Los Angeles celebrates. It's very exciting.
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Starting point is 00:25:02 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
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Starting point is 00:26:39 I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keer Games.
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Starting point is 00:28:37 Pick it up. Driveway. Time for best, best for last. We're going to do NFL trick or treat. So JMAX is going to give me a fact from the NFL. I have to decide whether it's true or not. Is it a tricking me or is it a treat?
Starting point is 00:28:54 Is it the truth? Is that the premise? I believe it is. Okay, that's the premise. Here's the open for NFL trick or treat. Are you taking your kids out tonight? Quite a good intro. Of course.
Starting point is 00:29:16 There's a couple block parties with near us. You know, guys getting taco trucks, really having a long phone. It's going to be. Yeah, it's going to be lit, as you like to say. Manhattan Beach has a great history with trick or treat. They party, hard. Indeed. Let's start with the Tampa Bay Bucks are the lowest scoring team in the NFC South.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Trick or treat? I think that even with Tom Brady, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, I think that's a treat. Bingo. Nailed it. They are the lowest scoring team in the NFC South. Atlanta, shockingly, is number one. Butts dead last, 146. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:29:55 You and I, you and I weren't working together at the time, but I thought it was an incredibly realistic take to say that Seattle and Atlanta felt like they were what you would call football tanking, which is, you know, play young guys, compete, play like. Seattle is playing out of its mind. And Atlanta, running that football, Pitts had a touchdown yesterday.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Running it, running it, running it. For now, I think the wheels eventually come off both of 13. You would think, I keep watching Seattle, and I'm like, yeah, the wheels will come off. And then you watch that defense and they take advantage of mistakes. And by the way, Kenneth Walker, you know, now they got a guy that if they do get a lead, it's totally Pete Carroll. It's like run, run, run, eat the clock. You look up and there's like four minutes left in the third. And you're like, where the game go.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And the converse is true. You keep waiting for the Packers to turn it around. They are what they are. I think Green Bay is, this is what they are. They don't have a vertical threat. Although I will say when he threw it up three times, when Aaron decided you just crank it up three times in the game, they all became big plays.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You've got to trust those young guys eventually. All right, let's move to your new buddy. Joe Burrow, trick-or-treat, has thrown for more yards in his last three games than Justin Fields has thrown for all season. That's a treat. That's right. No, they tricked you. Burrow has gone off, but Fields is having a good season.
Starting point is 00:31:15 He's got 200 more passing yards than Joe Burrow. Cowboy Bear game was funny. Oh, exciting stuff. Because the Bears would keep crawling back into it. And I'm like, all right, just make a stop, get the ball back. And then Dallas would explode for a big play, or there'd be you Tony Pollard run. That game felt closer than it was. But Dallas dropped 49 against the Bears. That's hard to drop in high school.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So you've got to say today, Cowboy fans feel pretty good about it. By the way, that Micah Parsons fumble return? Did you see the athleticism from that? He's a freak. All right, next up, only five of 32 NFL teams. Run the ball at least 50% of the time. Okay, so Atlanta's one of them. Correct.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Let me think about this. The Giants are one of them? They are. Yeah. Let me throw this one out. I could be crazy. Are the Raiders one of them? They are not.
Starting point is 00:32:03 You are crazy. All right. So I got, I'm giants? Falcons. How about Seahawks? No. One of them should be obvious from yesterday. Green Bay?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Derek Henry. Oh, Derek Henry, Tennessee. I try not to watch Tennessee game. Yes. It's. The hazard is to the health. All right. So anyways, five of 32 teams run the ball at least 50% of the time.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I'm going to say trick. No, it's a treat. You forgot about the Bears who are running all over everybody. And the Philadelphia Eagles, 51% of the time. So it's five exactly. Bears, Falcons, Titans, Giants, Eagles. Next up. The top five quarterbacks in passing touchdowns are all AFC quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Trick or treat. I mean, a couple should be very honest. Well, I got three in my head. Boom, boom. Boom, boom, Burrell, Alan Mahomes. I'm going to say trick, because I think Jalen Hertz is in that group, isn't it? It is a trick, but Aaron Rogers and Gino Smith are the other two guys who have 13. Gino Smith.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You remember him as a jet, right? Did you ever think this is what it would look like? Listen, we've had people tell us, people who work at Fox, the stories, Gino Smith showing up to team meetings and like slippers and a bathrobe. Like, that's how serious he took things. And now the guy has turned it around and he's now fifth in the league and touchdown passes, which is insane. Next up, Seattle Seahawks have averaged twice as many points as the Broncos. I think that's a treat. I think it's right. Close but no cigar. Trick. Seahawks 26, as you can see here, Broncos 15.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So not quite twice. I believe the staff is confounding you here, huh? I'll tell you what, what's great about Seattle? Of course, I'm from there, and my sister starts, when my sister starts texting me during NFL games, I know the Seahawks are playing well, Hi, Marlene. So what's great about Seattle is, if you don't follow the draft or you don't live in the Northwest, you don't understand. Two rookie tackles both great. Rookie corner great. Another rookie corner playing.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Rookie end playing. And a rookie running back who's a star. They have five to six rookies who are not just playing. They're making plays. They're like go-to guys. By the way, how did D.K. Metcalfe play yesterday? We were told, oh, it's a knee, Patel. I thought he wasn't going to play.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm like, yeah, no D.K. Metcalfe. He's out there running all these routes and catching passes. I'm like, geez. I thought he was a scratch. Unbelievable. He's a bionic. Next up, more Seahawks for you. Oh, no, no, we already did that one.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Sorry. Bill's offense and defense are both best in the NFL and points per game. Trick or treat? I think they were. But after yesterday, I think they're second in points. I'm going to say trick. Wow. That was your best effort.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yes, they felt the second. points. Kansas City Chiefs on the buy, 31.9 points per game. Bill's number one defense, no surprise. Can you imagine that in the National Football League? In the better conference, in a good division, Kansas City averages 32 points again. Yeah. I mean, they lit up
Starting point is 00:35:08 the 49ers last week. Brands could do nothing in the second half. You saw how the Chiefs just obliterated them. On the road. Yeah. In the Bay. All right. Next up, Josh Allen, because we don't talk about the bills enough. Josh Allen averages twice as many passing yards per game than Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I would say that's a treat. That feels right. Yes, indeed. More than double. Josh Allen crushing it. But you know what? Can I defend Justin Field yesterday? Fire away.
Starting point is 00:35:34 So I'm sitting there watching that game. He doesn't. Mooney's a nice player, but they don't have a lot to work with. And Cole Comett, I think he had his first touchdown in a while. He's fine. Montgomery, I like. Khalil Herbert is actually a better. He's the kid, the Virginia Tech kid.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Small guy. Yeah, he's tough. They need to go pay for a receiver and then draft one. But I will tell you this, I think they do a pretty good job using Justin for what he does. They're about a draft away. If they hit on two or three draft picks, they got a ton of cap space. Justin Fields, you can win games with that. How's this?
Starting point is 00:36:15 Could Justin Fields have a leap the way Jalen Hertz has made him massively? Well, I'm just telling you. Good arm. There are moments with Justin Fields. Like, I, Zach Wilson right now, I don't see it. I don't even get moments. But with Justin Fields, there are times I'm like, I mean, first of all, dude is big.
Starting point is 00:36:33 He's bigger than Jalen Hurts. Oh, he is yoked, and he's tall, and he's big. I don't know if Justin Fields is going to work. But I can get watching him and being like, no, we got to go another year. Like, because there are moments in that cowboy game. He doesn't have anything to work with. Although the Bears O line yesterday had moments where they found there were moments they weren't terrible.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I think lowest paid offensive line in the league. Next up, every team in the AFC East has scored more points that they've given up this season. That is treat. Incorrect. The Miami Dolphins have a negative point differential. Not the Jets. They do? Plus 17.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. I don't know how, but they have a minus 14 point differential. Well, I watched. I smoked by the Vikings. That's right. Yeah. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I watched a lot of that game. Miami is one of the better watches in the league. dome, warm weather, early season, Miami has got all that smoke. Lute awakening coming for the Miami Dolphins. I kind of feel like Thanksgiving on. They got to face New England, Buffalo on the road, just hold off. By the way, go with a winner, switch to Consumer Cellular for Talk, Text, and Data, starting at just $20 a month, limited time offer, $25 off at consumercellular.com slash the herd.
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